Welcome to the Firebat Meta.

[@martinmarzano1523]

Matrixed hero Firebat rushing into the dark swarm alone and singlehandedly cleaning house is the hypest shit ever

[@CaptainXD]

Firebathero is back

[@nickpanov1080]

Hero don't use firebats :D

[@oldscoolest]

Need a Light?

[@LemonGingerHoney]

Fired up!

[@LL-kv1jk]

@@LemonGingerHoney Let's Buuuurn!

[@nullpug5445]

@@LL-kv1jkFlamin'

[@stiv66630]

duo with light would help ample thats for sure :>)

[@philiphoyle]

naturally!

[@Shawn_A_BJJ]

Hell. It's about time. Been waiting 26 years for the Firebat meta.

[@cowgirlqueen2636]

It is a really good unit

[@jrodtopo]

Defiler still crushing though. Exciting to see though.

[@Larsgman]

Firebats really are good against infantry units the problem is that they don’t synergize well with the rest of the terran army, mainly siege tanks which is the core. If siege tanks did the same bs no-friendly-fire like reavers or if firebats wouldn’t be hurt by spider mines - I promise you, you would see so many more firebats. I know pros have different way of handling zealots, but i have always viewed firebats as the answer to lings and zealots. Marines i have always viewed to be like the terran version of zerglings and are to be a support unit, not the main force

[@Sor91785]

Coming from SC2 I was recommended ASL and have been addicted since. Artosis, you are a massive part in that - I appreciate the passion(getting chills

[@CarlosJimenez-pz1dq]

nasty , a sc2 player begone or i will defeat you with protoss , SCOUTS

[@stardawggunrocks5152]

same, still getting chills and knowing there is at least a cast a day I can click on to get my fix is awesome and I'm super grateful. Started watching ASL as a GSL fan. Initially I randomly watched like every. single. Husky solo cast, but eventually found GSL and at some point SC2 was just too cool not to try for myself. I was GARBAGE, I still remember massing DTs in my first ever online matches and the guy whispering me saying "you can't just make DTs man, you need zealots and stalkers" and I HATED that. So I started learning Zerg because I was pissed and random interneters said it was the hardest race to learn for a beginner. I worked hard at it and got plat, and finally diamond as random playing macro builds. I still remember looking at the congrats icon animate, banging on the table screaming gutterally like a soccer fan, walking around my house for the rest of the night making dumb jokes about diamonds like "see these hands? These are DIAMOND hands! See this mouse?" like so many years before that meme was even a thing. My girlfriend had no idea wtf I was saying. With that confidence, I finally picked the gentleman's race and rolled Terran 100% and Gumiho is still my spirit animal. I learned TheCore keyboard layout because my tiny hands can't reach any of the F keys and I have the mouse accuracy of hellen keller so I needed an edge, access to all 8 camera positions and all 10 control groups clustered tightly under my micro hands. SC is so steeped in it's own history at this point that absolutely insane things can happen that have so much meaning behind them, like TY coming into ASL right away in his return to Brood War after winning/casting GSL to knock out all-time GOAT of zerg JD with a typical 200iq TY build. When I was only watching/playing SC2 it was still an event to see Flash, Jaedong, Soulkey, all these legends with their stories behind them come in and do really well. Flash being so goated he is playing Random in ASL awakened my inner Tiger and made me realize my inner Tiger is Flash's bitch. That was wild. There is nothing like the acquired taste of Starcraft and as a spectator the experience ages like a fine wine, and I will not stop drinking o7

[@sYnchr0_]

Stim'd Firebats with defensive matrix don't care about dark swarm, can wipe out 50 lings in a microsecond, obliterate stacked lurkers or annihilate mineral lines. It baffles me how underused they are in the pro scene.

[@SanityDrop]

Cause they are insanely micro intensive. SC1 dont have mass select like SC2

[@TJ-ck3fp]

Shame it doesn't cus we'd see more play like this

[@TuEIite]

When the siege tanks shell them though -__-

[@emilysmellylikeshit]

I think it's because when the gameplay gets to late game, the zerg's natural transition against SK terran is ultralisks. Because high level terrans know this, terrans typically secure the 3rd gas and they will begin producing tanks and vessels in anticipation of that transition. The tank/vessel/MM terran combination still is good against ling, hydra defiler. Why waste the gas and supply on 20 firebats when you can start stacking the tank count.

[@NoSleepWiblo]

I feel like I see them a lot considering it’s something you only make against Zerg. Only making 2-3 is prob the smartest play. Just keep a few in with marine med combo and u got a cool looking army

[@ivarkreuger3098]

Finally a Terran who repairs the vessels

[@helloken]

I mean, there is so much to do it's hard to know if using some of your APM to repair vessels is a good use of APM. I suppose it depends on the situation?

[@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars]

Arty, exhibit A1 for failing to protect his vessels.

[@JOE0671]

for real that was the first thing i noticed. so tired of seeing these terrans run around with groups of 8 1 HP vessels that inevitably get hit by one muta shot and all die

[@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars]

@@helloken worth the apm to save Terran's strongest unit, its great equalizer?

[@ivarkreuger3098]

​@@helloken I get why players dont. The game is on edge and it feels like every irridiate is essential to win so they end up sacrificing 5-6 vessels to cast 1-2 irridiates right now. If you bring them home you get 3 vessels with minimum 70 energy for the price 1. And you dont lose that uncast irridiate, you can cast 2 irridiates with that vessel when its repaired... I think everytime you feel like its not absolutely crucial to cast every single irridiate right now you should try to repair them. Zerg hate when terran get those huge amounts of vessels.

[@YoungGandalf2325]

I'm still waiting for the Optical Flare meta.

[@ottopippenger1590]

Could be good against Muta's

[@redgaarden8101]

How? Its not aoe is it?

[@ottopippenger1590]

a smaller stack you could still potentially effect range enough to make a few seconds difference@@redgaarden8101

[@OpiatesAndTits]

@@ottopippenger1590hmmm what would you blind? The ovies? OF is one of those optimistic abilities which might have seen play if the game came out like ten years later than it did. Aside from blinding tanks on that one UED mission I don’t tnjnk anyone uses it

[@matteofontana_]

You'd need to in fact cast 11 optical flares on 11 different mutas​@@redgaarden8101

[@benjaminhuver1657]

Artosis! I love how effective you are using the zoom in and out feature with this cast! Its really nice to get glimpses of the full battle and then zoom ins on the mini skirmishes!

[@awd42]

It's much better now. In earlier videos he spent too much time zoomed way out where it was hard to see the action. (Not a complaint! I like the zooms, as long as he goes back to the standard zoom right after.)

[@skykur]

I dont have any social media besides yt, so I dont have anywhere else to post this. But my friend died last night in a car crash :( He was my gaming buddy. He was going thru a rough patch, and I did my best to help him out in that time. All I want to say is Thank You Arty, your passion for Starcraft (and gaming) has kept my spirits high. My friend had a similar passion for gaming. The only way for me to describe watching these videos would be *CATHARTIC* -Much Love, Skybro

[@ArtosisCasts]

My biggest condolences. So sorry to hear.

[@davidgatten1033]

Hope you've been getting better since that tragedy dude. Glad you're here with us. Good luck my friend.

[@XxHeRBMaNxX]

Ah man. Love to you and your bro man. You are loved and I want to remind you that if not for anything then keep playing this game with us for the gift it’s given us to experience with our bros. Rest in peace

[@irishcarbonite1333]

Getting your hands on BW replays back in the day was like finding gold, it was so rare

[@zuphix1802]

Everyone playing their games publicly reminds me a lot like Chess. A chess player today would absolutely destroy an equivalent, or even better player 100 years ago thanks to technology giving us better practice techniques, and knowledge of not just popular openers and tactics, but also the counterplays. When Magnus Carlsen plays an unorthodox opener on stream, or in a tournament, the next day people are already practicing it on the ladder. Chess hasn't been patched in over 200 years (since en-passant was added)

[@deandouvikas]

no chills, but wiggles!

[@Gabrielbarsch]

0:13 no way heroic drones

[@htoaletaarxidatet]

yes way...

[@Endlessmelody4]

I watch every video all the way through. Love your casts, man

[@TMoDDD]

The problem is the amout of gas per firebat so a fully mech transition is almost impossible this strat is for early games only and the pro scene always gets to late game(for obvious reasons). Maybe on maps that have double gas on natural base can somehow enable this strat but i doubt it cuz those type of maps re not popular on the pro scene.

[@mateog5362]

I do love the games where both players take damage early on- it’s interesting to see how the players approach developing their game from there disruption

[@jeroencaspers9038]

Awesome match! I watched this long. Really hope this firebat comp gets perfected and then lets see how the zergs will react.

[@maximilianomorganti7639]

Thank you Artosis, I watch these when I start my day and it just makes me want to try brood war and suck at it haha. Keep it up :)

[@Mippt]

I love firebats! Underused unit.

[@nandinoo]

my fav unit!

[@DergonBaals]

It’s unfortunate that they didn’t wind up doing much here.

[@michaelbird9148]

It's been cool seeing dmatrix used on smaller groups of firebats recently!

[@cresalp]

Need light?

[@banallanimeandfurries]

fur Fee yAG

[@MatildaHinanawi]

I am so happy this game is alive and well. Your style of casting on this channel seems to have gotten even better too, thanks for all your work!

[@banallanimeandfurries]

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[@banallanimeandfurries]

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[@banallanimeandfurries]

un alive yourself weeb

[@banallanimeandfurries]

weeb degen

[@banallanimeandfurries]

peddle file pos

[@matt-xi3ki]

Have a good poop artosis.

[@matticus11]

It's really interesting to see the flip between defiler hunting and oh no plaguuu.

[@Szgerle]

The firebat is the perfect example of how a niche unit should work. Not every unit has to be a staple but they can still be strong.

[@dj_koen1265]

they look so useless and then suddenly years later people use them in a way that makes them look very strong

[@mytralaalaa]

The meta shift in PvT was crazy, arbiter was the only endgame toss was throwing out

[@MsDeadRock]

fire bats and medics, lighting up the battle field like never before.

[@oliverhellwig8409]

great cast, as always.

[@SmoKKz0r]

Zerg player must do everything to keep that vessel count down…

[@hugodsa89]

The meta evolves faster also because of how easily accessible information is now than it was then, basically, just like you've said. To be fair, it's also because of platforms monetising viewership and creating a lot of competition for viewers and views generally.

[@mimszanadunstedt441]

it took u guys how long to think of firebats

[@MICHAH6]

hey artosis, your stream gives me joy and is the only reason why I put sound on on my computer

[@ericomfg]

I got chills when those bats did their thing

[@pkfranz]

@ArtosisCasts - why do most terrans not repair vessels or use restore?

[@CtrlAltDfeat]

that terran charge up zerg's 4th right when darkswarm ended was CRAZY

[@EverythingIsTaken94]

Is it possible to d matrix and irradiate a vessel at the same time?

[@weirdfishArp]

I love the fact that he really really loves starcraft, thanks for all artosis

[@SmoKKz0r]

Isen’t this map very small??

[@jackbaxter-williams8059]

i always watch till the end. I can't wait to see more firebat meta.

[@davidgatten1033]

Serious question, has Zerg ever lost to Terran or Protoss on Neo Dark Origin?

[@tbaumitski]

That plague on those 4 tanks at the 4th and then the long run by to kill them was super clutch by hero to break that position. It's super impressive how those gosu players can make strong decisions not only for the ongoing fight but also prepare for the next wave. Sick plays

[@ChRicke-rt9hy]

Crazy game. Love your casts always

[@Rein______]

Firebats should be used more. What about mixing some spidermines in? A mine under the swarm cant be killed before impacting right?

[@btopxcii]

Thank you for the content Artosis! ♥

[@ScottPenick]

Firebats + optical flare meta almost here!

[@Art-uz3fk]

Firebats with medics actually do well against mass zealot too. Not that you see that combination often since protoss usually is goon heavy

[@Tann114]

Thanks for these casts! Makes me want to create my own RTS some day. I should probably just play the ones others have made though haha.

[@salgarellius7434]

Do you think fireball will be used more and more?

[@gippygames]

Not too sure that the firebat tech would actually stick in the long run. It worked here because the firebats were 3/1, while the lings were 0/2. If upgrades are even, then lings need 3 firebat hits to die instead of 2.

[@bingusbongus8497]

Chillest caster ever, take my sub papa

[@Hyperion856]

Artosis saying "is terran OP?" is all i need. Clip it 100x

[@kiba3x]

When I eat chili papers I am firebat from the ass.

[@dirkauditore8413]

Why isn't the Medic's Restoration used to counter Plague?

[@jackbaxter-williams8059]

the two player's conversation at the beginning is hilarious.

[@briancorbett3600]

I love these casts man! Thanks for the consistent joy from another Atlantic Canada BW fan!

[@Aubee89]

Cheers from beautiful and unseasonably warm Northern Ontario!

[@IHeliosI]

No restoration on the plagued SV's?

[@garrettyhm9962]

hey artosis --- how do I get to the ASL to watch it live?

[@berryzedzero]

Ironically, firebats always give me chills.

[@Sporacle]

After hours of watching these I realize, Artosis reminds me of the original Iron Chef dubbed commentary in some way

[@SirWtfcharles]

Hey tosis! Do you think the faster speed of the meta game changing is making it so jaedong isn't able to analyze strategies and find weak spots to exploit as well as he used to when it evolved slower? I thought about that when you mentioned how he does that during your asl cast the other day

[@The8bitFighter]

I also kind of wondered if that was part of what Artosis was getting at. It seemed like he didn't QUITE finish that chain of reasoning.

[@phoenixlich]

Zerg are so fun to watch at this level!

[@lukeehlert2943]

Curious why Artosis was in LA

[@stardog2312]

ArtosisCasts- the SOURCE for Brood War.

[@rexsales6552]

Who is the soulkey that developed sk terran and is he still playing?

[@ZC.Andrew]

It's wild to me that a game that is 25+ years old still has meta shifts. Most games don't even survive half that long - ESPECIALLY RTS games. It's remarkable.

[@youtubeviewer4472]

mining minerals from the other guy's base is funny

[@skennel8884]

I'm happy to see Artosis bringing back his claims about why each player is the best in the world: 2nd strongest Zerg in the world, best TvP player in the world, smartest Protoss in the world, best B rank muta micro in the world etc. It makes each game so hype!

[@BoxingDayAC]

Are they using their real names versus vertical bars since they are on the same team, Josae Starcraft Academy?

[@Coffin_Torpedo]

🔥FIRED UP 🔥

[@ELFottler]

Fuck yeah Artosis keep it alive.

[@sagacity1071]

What do we have to do to get the pros play UEDAIP for a day? Would love to see them use bio against toss and it not suck.

[@soldier22881]

terran when they see zerg: aight better spam barracks against lurkers and mutas

[@TheBrasilianske]

Hey guys! Please can you explain why i don't have medics and others guys on my StarCraft broodwar?

[@colinfun]

I have no idea what RT is talking about at 9 minutes, Hero was at 31 drones before the attack and 20 after, that is 11 drones he lost.

[@jasonsoliva6678]

So it's 2024 and terran mains are finally figuring out that you need to use firebats in dark swarms. Genius.jpg

[@mattatuckmanful]

Starcraft is very diverse!! Its now 2% non-Korean! Lol

[@Ceratisa]

Just need to add in some optical flares.

[@fredrik_p]

I don't get why reparing the science vessels isn't a thing? Is it because you can't use then while reparing or what?

[@LL-kv1jk]

He did try to repair a couple but the reasons are multi-factored. Attention/multi-tasking is your biggest resource in SC so repairing is often a case of 'it helps if you can afford the convenience but it's not worth a priority task'. Any actions on pulling a unit to safety to click SCVs onto is actions not spent on macroing or controlling the battlefield.

[@fredrik_p]

@@LL-kv1jk You are right and it's obviously now when you say it. Thanks for the explanation.

[@dewwwd3431]

It’s absolutely insane how busted defilers are… It has to be one of the most OP unit out of any RTS game ever

[@Lq32332]

It’s sad how much of Zerg’s power is in the defiler. AOE defensive + AOE offensive and the ability to make more energy. It’s the viper and infestor in one unit.

[@majd2]

arty its solosolosolosolosolo ur friend a guy in the chat, i was telling you always to build 24 firebat..cant wait to see this as meta need firebat to shot up and down tho

[@kalle1689]

When flash was at hes best he used a loot of firebats with hes marines to push and kill Zergs. Thing is most terrans us Irradiate on lurkers, sure it can be cost effective. But it take time. What made Flash so good was those firebats with defence matrix rush in killing those lurkers on Ramps and defence positions

[@TheEnergizer94]

Is it worth it to repair 6 vessels when they are plagued? At 225 gas each it seems worth it to send an scv and chill your vessels for a minute

[@LL-kv1jk]

In theory it's worth it, but in practice it's just an extra task too many when the player is already spending 300 apm on not losing their frontline or macroing. Repairing is usually only done as a convenience.

[@Earthboundmike]

The term genius works but the one you want is ace. Or perhaps anchor.

[@freehatespeech6804]

Artosis: If you're suffering from diarrhea, try cutting fibre from your diet

[@keef920]

Stimmed firebat with dmatrix into the dark swarm was dope af

[@scfan7231]

Why don't you repair the Science Vessel after plague? Is that not cost-effective?

[@Lickiepuu]

From what I understand, the apm, and Idle time from both vessels and scv are just too much. bw is too apm intensive to at this level

[@soju69jinro]

how can it be a meta, if it doesn't work?

[@Genemesis]

Is Queen really not that dominant? I remember him destroying everyone including Flash in ASL but he's not in Artosis' Zerg list?

[@CaptainXD]

Firebathero is back!

[@BannedPhotoshop]

He really needed to move those tanks out

[@liveandjaphappy]

Hey artosis. What’s up with these zergs not using up mineral mid-late game? I see them pretty often banking 1k-2k . I feel like they could be used for ling counterattack and drops

[@TheSuperappelflap]

lings cost a lot of larva and apm. they are better off spending their time microing their other units.

[@darkranger116]

@@TheSuperappelflap yeah its one of those few situations where banking doest shoot you in the foot, keep it around until you're ready to spam lings

[@TheSuperappelflap]

@@darkranger116 or just keep it until you mine more gas and then spend it on units that dont lose to 2 firebats. the terran was making a ton of firebats this game. lings are literally just cannon fodder. and gases never run out unlike minerals so banking some minerals for the eventuality of a late game is not a bad idea in general.

[@sabin97]

my favourite unit is still the high templar.... when i was at my peak playing teams i would focus on corsairs and templars.....i had a lot of precision with psi storm. and with the web that disables defenses.....

[@JOE0671]

gotta say plague and dark swarm OP. even with Ample taking out a bunch of defilers with irradiate those plagues still owned him

[@warkos3591]

Why doesn't late game T get restauration on medics? At least to cancel the plague on the Vessels.

[@danbert8]

Dark swarm is the thing that convinces me it's not worth playing as Terran. Zerg can stall indefinitely and just sit. The countering change would be if irradiate had the same area as dark swarm...

[@scottpearson9846]

wrong game in the decription btw. this is remastered right? it looks so fucking crisp and clean

[@godlyobject6509]

Awesome game. Awesome cast!

[@plebbsquad5102]

artosis forget melee damage isnt effected by dark swarm?

[@mwhighlander]

Firebats against darkswarm? 2001 called. It wants it meta back.

[@kurzackd]

5:56 -- Artosis talking сгар as usual when his baby Terran is concerned..... This M&M force would have been enough to ABSOLUTELY WIPE OUT *ANY* number of speedlings the Zerg could have produced at that point in the game, surrounding or not... He's Terran-biased at 13:07 also when he blurts out: *"There **_is A SKILL_** to clicking (Irradiate) in the middle of a Mutalisk stack !! .."* ... ahahahah !! :D .

[@SanityDrop]

I wonder how SC1 would be with modernized micro/macro

[@abstractdaddy1384]

So, SC2?