25 Years Later - The StarCraft Prima Strategy Guide

[@brandon23471]

I like how you filmed the guide with a webcam from the same era to enhance the experience

[@davidshakarisaz6364]

ahaha, I wonder if it has a focus adjustment, seems like it's out of focus.

[@IAM_UDON]

Lol...

[@dontcrydoomer4787]

it's at the strangest angle xd

[@MKP2W]

The angle is so bizarre. It's like tilting your head OVER above the book and almost looking at it upside down instead of just looking down at the book, kinda making me sick alittle tbh.

[@genehenson8851]

Haha

[@ab-qj3wo]

Jokes aside up untill Bizu era PvZ was considered heavily Zerg favorite and one of the things he brought to the match up is early corsair usage that was never a thing before and this guy actually suggested it back in 1999. Holy hell, what a genious

[@zes7215]

wrr

[@retrocasualscpf6]

Reminds me of the obvious strategy of killing overlords tht all the dumb dumb pros thought and think is revolutionary.

[@Slapstick87]

4:45 Arty walked right into that one.

[@canag0d]

Lol nostalgia overload! I remember this book. Imagine learning The Craft from a book from 1998 lmao!

[@zes7215]

wr

[@johnornelas]

I do find it really bizarre that Prima didn't optimize this guide for people who have been playing the game exclusively for 30 years. Really dumb decision on their part

[@shadowling77777]

Lmao

[@zes7215]

wrg, no such thing as optix or exclux or dx or etc, cepuxua,x utx, can outx etc any nmw sperfx

[@foxxxooo]

@@zes7215 stronk

[@MrLTiger]

sun zoo reincarnated

[@BotRetro]

Did Artosis try the medic flare against shuttles? I would love to see that!

[@billybob-wx2re]

there's only one word for it and it's glorious

[@TheMuffinBagare]

But has it happened? Anyone know?

[@Lingboysc2]

I bought this at a used bookstore last year! What a gem

[@THAC0MANIC]

i had this and used it alot long ago i saw this book being sold in a random store for like 50cents got it totaly just for the

[@himethisisme]

I used to build mass firebats as a kid against Protoss because of the table near the end of this guide where it has units vs their counters, because it said the counter to "Zealots" was "Firebats" It also famously said the counter to Dragoons was Dragoons/Reavers, but I was too annoyed by the slowness of the reaver to ever use it as a kid. It never occurred to me to use Shuttles so they'd take like 5 minutes to crawl across the map

[@THAC0MANIC]

to be fair firebats are not terrible vs zealots but not the greatest XD i think the part that stuck with me the most is its custom map melee guide it had, it gave an example on how to make a 1v1 vs a very hard AI and it was pretty differcult with the settings it gave it required like a zerg opponant starting off with a number of bonus things vs you.@@himethisisme

[@michaelcallisto]

My dad got the Battle Chest Brood War bundle for us as kids that included that. I loved reading it

[@dewwwd3431]

Dude I bought the battle chest like 10 times because my siblings would throw away or break my copies or Starcraft because I played so much and hogged the computer

[@straptvyoutube3900]

Aw man, this brings back memories. The tides of darkness one was pretty cool too!

[@jerrytealeaf]

I remember reading this book in bed before going to sleep as a child! My mom only let me play video games on the weekends so this was my way of pretending to play the game in my imagination.

[@RoseGlass97]

Haha, similiar situation for me, I needed to do 3 hours study to get 1 hour pc time.

[@razorbackblood06]

I have this book for both SC1 and brood war. Its a smaller version, like a pocket sized book. Pretty sure they were included with the SC1/Brood war 'battle chest' pack.

[@shadowling77777]

Yup they were

[@hentaidude666]

I don't have the prima starcraft strategy guide, but I do have the Brady games strategy guide. The author had a massive brainfart when writing that one, because on Brood war Terran 4 - the one where you kill 4 hives and bring Duran to the Psi disruptor. They repeatedly call overlords overminds, and it tells you to kill the overminds to prevent dropping on the low ground and to supply block the zerg. It has tons of tiny errors like that

[@somecooney5304]

Arty has actually convinced me, that Terran is the real A-move race.

[@HardtoReach]

Always has been lol

[@goaway7904]

how

[@Numenorean921]

more like A-move then o to siege, a-move o, a-move o, a-move o repeat

[@skyvipers]

@ 25:38 - If you mind control a Shuttle with Reaver inside, does the Reaver get MC'd to your side too?

[@killerpotato9]

Yeah, anything in it the shuttle joins you, it's part of a speedrun strategy for the campaign

[@parachase7467]

no, the reaver fires on the shuttle from the inside and everything explodes

[@asesinonabo]

@@parachase7467 there is no space for betraying, reaver says

[@Zraknul]

Need to see that Optical flare vs shuttle in the next Snow game. It's not like there's anything to lose.

[@mremwww]

2500 elo incomming !

[@steampunkwhale2280]

Did he try optical flare against shuttle/reaver?

[@highhow]

I need to know if this happens

[@unclemugen]

not yet, he only got 1 game after reading the guide and it was tvt

[@ZaZen___]

Yeah holy shit I'm wondering if using flare on the reavers themselves might also have some use cases. But the shuttle is better prio. Apparently Boxer flared observers with cloak wraith followup back in the day lol

[@ShjadeNexayre]

@@ZaZen___ If there's a Terran gimmick possible, it's a safe bet SlayerS_'BoxeR' has at the very least tried it, and probably even made it work at least once.

[@Agagdhshh]

Getting medics vs protoss would not be that strong compared to turret/tank/mine placement

[@Screboog]

The SC and BW books were AWESOME. Buying a strat guide was a part of buying a game back in the day!

[@disiesgroto1881]

My favourite part of the non-expansion SC guide is how it recommends that Protoss just use Scouts to counter 25% of enemy units.

[@DazjaRoux]

I saw the title. I knew it was going to be amazing. I was not disappointed.

[@NSanityBringer]

I found a copy of the base Starcraft strategy guide on my bookshelf a while ago, and I was honestly amused by some of the details it got wrong, like it implying that Dark Swarm only protected ground units against air units. The game manual doesn't describe it very well either, to be fair, but I don't think it's too hard to realize it works against all ranged.

[@HundredJono]

I still have my Starcraft and Starcraft: Brood War strategy guides! When I was a kid I can't count how many times I went through each book to look at the pictures and read the cheats on the last page haha.

[@maximilianw9671]

I would pay 100$ or more for a book like that written by Artosis. Can we get a kickstarter please??

[@Jamesgalc-gs8wu]

I'm on it.

[@Ianuarius]

in a high iq trolling move he writes it solely about the single player missions

[@YoungGandalf2325]

The multiplayer section didn't mention how to deal with the lag of playing on a dial up connection. That was one of the most frustrating things for me back in the day. I bought the battle chest with these guides. The maps were useful for beating the single player campaign, but that was probably the only thing I used them for.

[@Sapreme]

I brought them to school so I could read Starcraft things during recess and lunch and show them to my friends lol

[@4lc0h0l]

What about medics with optical flare?

[@shadowling77777]

@@Sapremesame lmao

[@jeremyduke4938]

Love to see you beat the entire brood war campaign with only scv's, probes, and drones (no static).

[@zoeinvestor]

Please try optical flare on a reaver soon!!!

[@AgentXRifle]

^

[@whitneysmiltank]

mind controlling the queen to parasite the enemy zerg units LOLLL this is amazing

[@lucasye-kt5pt]

imagine the first thing it said in the Mission section was just the line, "There is no cow level" and rest is just blank pages until the Multiplayer section.

[@shevek5934]

Oh man! I had that book as a little kid! I bet it's still on a shelf somewhere.

[@garrettwilson4754]

I really wanna see the optical flare play

[@ottopippenger1590]

I have remembered that "human players like to build 35 siege tanks, but you can never really know" line for... 24, 25 years now? Jesus christ.

[@Redtornado6]

When I was young I made my mom read it to me before I could read. I knew every fact about every unit. I probably knew game values more accurately than flash. I could recite every units stats and every buildings stats and build time.

[@P7ab]

I hope you said sorry to her when you grew up lol

[@pointlessmanatee]

what an amazing video. hard to find content on this level on youtube

[@Taffer1000]

I still have mine. Have all three still. 1998, man I want to go back so bad. The year seems so far away and yet somewhat recent.

[@santana145]

I'm eagerly awaiting artosis taunting his opponents about their unprotected flanks :)

[@jeremyhorvath2052]

I remember taking this book to school and trying to teach all my friends about how to win against the cpu by making 12 carriers... good times

[@BayCyst]

Amazing.

[@55Aavenue]

I still have that book! I bought the broodwar box set back in 1999!

[@MasterFXPL]

I would really enjoy seeing Artosis playing Slay the Beast mission. I find it incredibly difficult, I wonder how a pro handles it.

[@sulik682]

4:35 Kicking it off with a BANG LLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[@IYPITWL]

I still have my Total Annilihaton strat guide. Its full of notes to beat the single player missions. They were a lot harder than BW but the multiplayer is less competitive. Every match is basically zvz and resources are unlimited.

[@kdavid123186]

Damn that was one of my game I used to play when I was bored of sc. wow good times

[@jakovmatosic4890]

I would love to see rt attempt single player challanges like beating the game with one unit.

[@knighthawk2062]

4:30 this mother fuckin donate right here gets me... Lol!!! I'm absolutely dying on the floor, laughing like a maniac!

[@empty5013]

excited for arty to do: firebat only queen only high templar only

[@Zraknul]

The epic engineering feat of bunker/turret hopping. Sunken + ensnare. Cannon + templar + archon

[@maxbachvaroff1967]

I like how Arty used optical flare on the camera before filming

[@MrAndersonmm]

I think I still have mine somewhere - used to read it a lot, actually, when trying to learn.

[@kromo770]

The fact they put huge margins on every page to pad its length (and size) should give you a hint to the quality. Still, it's pretty funny.

[@markjones3809]

"i hope your flanks protected"

[@Xpwnxage]

This is something I always say on the first date

[@DarkTemplar42]

I still have this book for brood war and original!

[@Techfuse13]

Looking forward to the Flank video/clip.

[@ryutou-ki4dl]

its funny cuz i still have mine. i have all the og blizzard games strat guides. are they worth money?

[@carismo9502]

9:32 that added at least 5 years to my life span, thank you RT

[@lotgc]

Aw man, I remember when I was a kid, I had the sc battlechest and it had one of these for the original and for bw. It's cool to look through it again 😂

[@wallacelovecraft8942]

I wish the webcam clear and not blurry. I know this vid is going to be a nice watch.

[@FlymanMS]

I bet it says on the first page “Protoss bad AP”

[@anonymousAJ]

I got into RTS in the early 2000s, sadly I didn't play Starcraft until years later (after SC2 came out) I just didn't know

[@owendavis3500]

Wow the memories, I used to read this when I was a little kid like 5-10 years old, I wonder where my copy is now.

[@bricktastic-acular1298]

oh my i still have my prima strategy guide, I would read it religiously as a kid, especially when I was grounded and bored.

[@BatmanisaGemini]

If I see a flare against a shuttle, it will have all been worth it

[@ice_fox]

Lol.. I swear Arty's stream is the modern version of the Gorgeous George show (older public access show that was constantly trolled by fake callers).

[@kayDawgTV]

I’m perfectly fine with this comparison.

[@vladfi1]

For the longest time I was confused why tanks can micro vs dragoons and I eventually found out it was because the Prima strategy guide listed them as having 6 range when really they have 7, meaning they slightly outrange goons. It also gets the ranges wrong for upgraded Marines (says 6, actually 5) and most importantly for Ghosts (says 6, actually 7).

[@Appletank8]

For the longest time I was confused why the Zealot HP/Shield was different in the book until I realized there were actually like 3 balance patches before they stopped touching it.

[@bartmon]

Hey there, I wrote the book. This doesn't surprise me because back then Strat guides were written on betas and had to be finished before the final polish on the game happened. This is because it took two weeks to print the book and get it to stores to be there on the day the game released. So basically, those stats were given to me directly from Blizzard probably less than wee before the book went to press, but Blizzard was still tweaking those numbers right until the end, so that 2-3 week gap is why the numbers in the book are likely wrong.

[@vladfi1]

@@bartmon woah, cool to hear you chiming in! And thanks for the explanation, that makes a lot of sense.

[@vladfi1]

Also I have to say I adored these books as a kid, reading them was almost as fun as playing the games.

[@andrewredmon4525]

Still have my copy somewhere. Bathroom reading for years this was

[@samuelserdar]

Sadly i can't remember first time when i watch Star Craft but i remember my first playing with zerg. Amazing moment in my life. That`s was happen in year 1999 years.

[@leftnao]

The one about the flank and the queen mindcontrol are the best

[@lordlynkz]

This book is sitting on my dresser right now.

[@lastword8783]

Artosis needs to track down the author and just do an interview in terms of where starcraft and strategy games are and if he ever thought starcraft could become what it is.

[@bartmon]

Hi, I'm the author (yep, Bart Farkas). When I was writing the first Starcraft book, Blizzard had already released Warcraft and it was very successful. I wrote both of these Starcraft books in a darkened testing office in Irvine at Blizzard's campus there (basically LA), because the software was not allowed to leave the building (for obvious reasons). I wrote both books entirely by the seat of my pants working with a beta and almost entirely on my own. Ultimately, I'm happy with how they've stood up. And yep, when I was working on the first (the original) StarCraft book I remember telling both Bill Roper and the publisher that this was going to be a big hit.

[@gymfamily]

wait wtf is this real @@bartmon

[@lastword8783]

@@bartmon Wow I didn't expect you to reply! This was super interesting to read.

[@darinladd5312]

kinda nice to hear you are still around the community...what are your thoughts 25yrs on...?

[@sams5658]

I really hope there’s a part 2

[@MatildaHinanawi]

Can you email a link of this video to the book's author, just so they can get to see this? They deserve to see this.

[@leftnao]

19:10 prima guide holding truth for decades

[@HeatIIEXTEND]

wew, better than expected.

[@Elyvilon]

cannot believe the Prima Strategy Guide taught people to DT Rush

[@nicholasbrown5970]

nostalgic nerd chills i had that when i was a kid.

[@jessegollan7790]

I remember being showm "black sheep wall" by a friend. Blew my mind

[@montyfacker]

i only get 360p ?

[@TOSPEEDFIRE13]

That was brilliant and so hilarious thank you arty 😂

[@Lykyk]

Has he tried the optic flare build out yet?

[@JJ-Toreddie]

Damn, I remember the day Brood war was released. I downloaded the game but couldn't play online so My friend and I went into the store, found the game box and opened it up, and wrote down the CD Key. The good ole days.....

[@SirWtfcharles]

I've still got mine om the bookshelf in my living room :D

[@brazilianniceguy]

6:11 "lose some health", of course. Also, be aware there were no medics units in starcraft. They were added in the Brood War expansion

[@loredo182]

You should read the whole book and post it in parts here, it would be amazing lol.

[@lastword8783]

90% of it is the singleplayer campaign which is what 99% of players back then cared about lol

[@kingheenokgaming4783]

I had this book. Was the best thing.

[@kataskopos]

people will defend arty for at least having integrity despite being toxic but then you see him complaining about smurfs with a straight face while every other stream he plays with a different ID

[@karpai5427]

Did he try blinding the schuttle?

[@housemana]

9:34 Arty playing 4d gaslight chess with chat lmaoo and we all thought he was using a shit camera for no reason what a gaslight god 🤣😂

[@invisiblemenproduction]

Dude Optical flare on shuttle?? That’s so sick

[@pointlessmanatee]

can't wait for the author of this strategy guide to win next asl with optical flares

[@decksteroussnail]

Before clickbait KZbin guides, we had Prima Strategy

[@thuperman5228]

hold on... that is actually legit to optical flare reavers and shuttles. You must try this a couple medics with optical flare rush!

[@ShibuyaRollCall]

Can we get a showmatch vs snow, where snow is only allowed to build zealots and arty is only allowed to build firebats.

[@Tootbook]

Oh god this is gonna be gooooooooooood

[@PoliteElliot]

What happened to the author, are they still playing? Would love to see a grudge match!

[@BotRetro]

Do that Medic Flare build against shuttles! It's been a month!

[@AgentXRifle]

4:34 actually burst out laughing so hard, one of the best donations ever!

[@esosic]

would be cool to find the author and do an interview

[@Tetrayahtin-77777]

I had that book 💜

[@CrayZtwin1]

I used to have that !!! I think it’s hiding in a box somewhere…

[@bouz07]

I love how it started with thinking that he was going to dog on the writer.

[@literatemax]

Darn, I just sold all my Optical Flare stonks

[@attention_shopping]

Amazing

[@jeremyhorvath2052]

as a casual, the last couple brood war zerg campaign missions are actually so hard. Please try to do it with one unit I beg you

[@canag0d]

@2:57 lmao I was crying!

[@flappy7373]

Can't wait to see flared shittles.