If you consider that those stats are theoretical, then it doesn't account for scarab/interceptor traveling time not to mention when they glitch out and stay static for a while. That surprisingly makes the archon the actual winner here, that said its lower range also offsets his position a little.

Even though SK didn’t go up against the best Terran in the finals he still beat what are considered some of the best Terrans next to Flash in the ro16 vs Rush and in the ro8 vs Light. Both of which could have made it to the finals.

FrostGiant own name suggest a pedantry. They paid the price for this. Good to know they finnaly are wearing the sandals of humility now.

The modern era seems like a scam. He should have got a golden mouse for winning 3 titles too.

On the Sharp thing... Even if Sharp isnt #1 terran, SK beat Light, Rush and JYJ in playoffs across the three wins and thats arguably the best 4 Terran rn, at least of 4 of the top 5/6.

Can you do a video on StarCraft status titles? Goat, bonjwa, golden mouse, six dragons, etc

It’s obvious. If he can Kingslay flash upon his return he’s a bonjwa.

A large part of it is unit pathing is horrible in brood war. If you were to fix it, it would be an entirely different game.

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the meta seems to have shifted a lot in 3 years. This could use an update.

HE DEFINITELY IS

Neither of these are strategy. It’s mechanics

I'm obviously a very shallow person, but if it looked like Starcraft 2 or 40k animations (not bloody Fortnite!) then I would have given the Campaign a try...

Would you change your opinion on Serral if he still dominated with Zerg nerf in sc2 ?

"a bonjwa has a very high winning percentage and successive title wins ... however a bonjwa is not defined by his statistics or records" excuse me, but what the fuck?

Scarlett Quote: "Sc1 has more strategy because there are smaller fights (and few big ones) all game long and all over the map so it takes many decisions throughout the game in contrast with SC2 build up towards that single fight that often ends the game"

If Soulkey isn't a bonjwa, I'd argue the title no longer means anything because he meets every criteria imaginable.

To play EVE I needed one single thing, being able to walk in first person inside these giant space stations and watch out a wall-window the huge capital ships and all the smaller ones going in and out (and mb sitting at a table chatting with a eve friend). I've heard that it was planned but then it was boycott by the community

man i loved this game as a kid.. so many good memories with custom maps in starcraft and wc3. but my guy you need to learn how to set macros xD

I think history might repeat itselff with SK achieving bonjwa retroactively after his streak comes to an end similiar to previous bonjwa title holders. There hasnt really been a need to name a new bonjwa in the modern ASL era, so I think there is some resistance to it fow now.

New era needs a new designator. I nominate SoulKey as the first Jwabon. Protons noob race btw zerg FTW.

If he beats peak, Flash and wins couple more asl's I think he probably will be named bonjour

So, what I understand then is that you have to be hitting P's base before zealot legs upgrade completes. Attacking anearby base or just moving quickly across the map. Otherwise, just fortify a position and take a third expansion instead. Correct? Here it seems that Sharp is moving out too carefully, 11:53 - 13:53 , he takes a lot of time to just secure a high ground position. And doing more scouting would have helped him understand if he needed to punish a 4th expansion or hold back his army and expand himself.

THREE more ASLs? At that point he'd not only be one, he'd be undeniably the best, yes?

Who is today's Bonjwa in sc2 dor each race ?

i've been watching bw since the beginning and i think players are slightly worse now than in the kespa era. it's hard to quantify decision making and strength of strategy, but mechanically, with micro and things like chance of missing things on minimap, awareness... is no question worse...and it shouldn't be surprising when they are practicing a tenth of the time they used to. you just see so many more mistakes now than in kespa era. in the kespa era if you saw a drop blip on the minimap you weren't really wondering if it was seen by the player, it was....it's just a lot sloppier now than it used to be and that's why I personally have a clear separation between kespa and post-kespa eras.

IMO yes he is. 3 ASL's in a row speaks for itself. People trying to say it's only cause Flash left forget that great players always leave games and create vacuums- he has been the consensus best player by a wide margin since Flash left and dominated pretty much everyone.

It’s very unfair if the man wins 6 seasons in a row and just then gets considered. I like the idea of a new term but to the younger generation somewhere along the lines of winning 4 across even 6 season WILL give it up and give him some glory that sets the nostalgia aside. Eventually the majority will be the younger generation and consensus will grow.

imo, it will take something Soulkey smashing flash in an SSL bo5 / bo7 and then going on to win it, within the next year, to get bonjwa (or bonjwa 2.0 if you prefer) status that is the actual last barrier. Obviously no sane person contests how much better he is than the competition right now, but he needs to do this exact final step.

People will say he was when he’s no longer as Dominant

Played for like 20 years as a zerg who sucks at macro and is pretty darn good at micro. Still bounce between diamond and masters. Should be a toss... SC 2 definitely has more strategy in my opinion. Love both games though.

The clunkiness of broodwar adds to the skill and entertainment factor. Minion blocking, awkward targetting, fked up ai, pathing … it is kinda funny to watch and this is also why micro is so much of it.

SC2 community has morphed into a SIMP community. I think the term strategy has been basterzied that community, and they wouldn't know what the word means unless it was soon fed to them by winterSC. SC2 is basic, boring, and lifeless and the pro community actually tries to keep it that way. So they can claim they are the best in the world. When the best players are playing anything but sc2. And that's the real truth no one talks about.

There's not one protoss user in the top 10 most successful pro gamers. Toss is the weakest of the 3 races and hardest to win tournaments with, it's common sense fact. At the lower levels protoss is easier to use and macro with, that's about it. This from someone who's played as long as Artosis and dipped balls on him countless times PVT

Campaign and and editor should've been the priority from the start. The Campaign is how you pull people in. Most people are not gonna go play competitively, people remember Blizz rts because of the editor game modes, yeah 1v1 and competitive existed, but the editor and the brilliant campaign is why they were so popular. Pretty much every other RTS did not have any editor, so blizz games became the default game to get to play fun/weird game modes... otherwise you are depending on a campaign and how well balanced your 1v1 game play is to survive.

TLDW there can be no more bonjwa lol

I think Soulkey's rise has been kind of baffling in how suddenly he pulled ahead. Like if Snow had Soulkey's ASL success, no one would be surprised. Snow constantly shows good mechanics and has been a monster in Proleague for a while. But Soulkey was constantly tied with Hero and Queen as a top class Zerg contender. Then once Soulkey won ASL he just never stopped. He went from strong to unstoppable seemingly over night.

Starcraft BW: Strategy Starcraft 2: Blob

I'm willing to say yes.

I would say that if Soulkey wins 2 of the 3 next ASLs, he will get the bonjwa status for sure. The way he plays the game is on another level and keeping the game even more fun to watch.

Another metric for Bonjwa is the influence a player has on their race that creates a new paradigm for the game. The ZvT last season where he went crazy zerg against either JyJ or Light made me feel actual fear.

Sounds like gatekeeping to me

Progamers now are stronger just because meta evolved. Themselve are getting worse. Although he finally seems to have come to his perfection, our sad bonjwa doesn't have adequate enemies to prove himself a real one.

Soulkey also won a KSL! Why don’t people mention this?

I like the idea of ​​having a different list, a "Bonjwa 2.0", which would only have Flash (who remained incredibly dominant in the modern era of SC) and would include Soulkey if he wins one of the next 2 ASLs.

im watching in joy how this game is spiralling into oblivion. no talent no creativity, arronance and this what you get

Soulkey has the ability to consistently identify the weakness of each opponent's strategy on each map before the match even starts. That is what makes him the greatest at the moment.

Its too bad that there's only really KCM as an additional venue for players to show off their skills. Proleague was an absolutely great way for the old bonjwas to display their dominance in front of a huge audience. If you could dominate in a BO1 environment AND the traditional tournament environment, there really was no question about who was the best.

What if he meets flash in the next asl and wins?

When is Flash returning? I was really hoping to see him win a title playing Random and become the one and only person to accomplish this feat.