SIYI HM30 HD FPV - 18kms are child's play!!!

[@travelrideandfly8355]

Mulțumim!

[@ArxangelRC]

Much appreciated mate! Thank you! 😊

[@lasersbee]

Great test.... looking forward to the new antennas and the 40KM tests.

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks, me too! :)

[@sda-123]

Hey, any news about it?

[@EnglishTurbines]

Can you do a brief video showing air side and ground components please????. I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to see them..🤔🤔😳🇬🇧

[@ArxangelRC]

Yes, will make sure to include that in one of the following videos! @Mailbox Money Not sure what you mean... I make it a point to reply to all comments!

[@EnglishTurbines]

@@ArxangelRC Thanks..👍🇬🇧

[@mango9cloud]

@@ArxangelRC Good for you.

[@ArxangelRC]

You are welcome!

[@julianhumphrey4843]

As you know i dont fly FPV, it just was not for me, but have to say 18k is pretty darn good by any standards, and can tell you really enjoyed the flight and making the video, great commentary about not watching video`s while driving

[@ArxangelRC]

Haha, thanks mate, appreciate it!

[@sarahdaviscc]

Excellent test!! Can't wait for the 40km mode test!

[@ArxangelRC]

Me too! :P

[@rockfordmckay]

Wow! Now we are going places. ,🎖️

[@ArxangelRC]

Indeed!

[@jimmytheriot8978]

Delivery for mine is today , can't wait to try it out

[@ArxangelRC]

Nice! Well until you do, you can check out my newest video! :)

[@AerialWaviator]

Impressive results! Thanks for nice initial review and great details. ♥😎👍 With range from home of 18km, you can easily fly a 100km circular circumference. That's lots of HD ground to cover. Looking forward to seeing what your next experiments are with this HD system. Expect you have a few ideas and theories to test. 🤔

[@ArxangelRC]

Haha, yeah, new video is out, so more testing done! :)

[@ObsidianFPV]

Very exciting! I look forward to more testing.

[@ArxangelRC]

Latest video is now live!

[@PaunFD]

Really, really nice!!! This kind of system do get my attention ... and made me consider to switch from analog to digital ...

[@ArxangelRC]

It is nice! Not sure it warrants a complete switch from analogue to digital, but it is certainly good enough to warrant some attention and further testing!

[@philippdrexler2038]

@@ArxangelRC what are the downsides to an analogue one in your opinion?

[@ArxangelRC]

Well... the image detail... or lack there of in most cases, and how easy it picks up interferences and the snow from a certain point on!

[@Swimfinz]

Another meaty podcast I need to absorb. Much info, thank you for posting your fine vids. Much effort, much troubahou!

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you! I am glad it is appreciated! :)

[@robertgoldbornatyout]

Looking forward to see your results on maxing out the range.👍

[@ArxangelRC]

Trust me, so am I! I hope to get to it soon!

[@robertgoldbornatyout]

💯💯💯👍👍👍@@ArxangelRC

[@ArxangelRC]

@@robertgoldbornatyout :)

[@jimmytheriot8978]

Just received my siyi hdmi converter and the system should be arriving in a few days , can't wait till you get the next video out

[@ArxangelRC]

Good for you! I still don't have mine!

[@rparts1]

Awesome ! ..hope you make a video with the mini crossbow set up

[@ArxangelRC]

I will, all in good time! :)

[@aviphysics]

Could you do some latency tests?

[@ArxangelRC]

I will be sure to include some form of that in my next video/s!

[@MessingWithCode]

Beautiful Fligth

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks!

[@jimkehoe6495]

I'll be watching this product.

[@ArxangelRC]

Cool! :) Newest video is out!

[@dude770725]

Wohoo! Now that looks promising! Great video! Thanks for your testing! Wondering if probably a better cam could help for an even better image?!

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks! I am not sure about the camera! This system uses IP cameras so the camera needs to be able to output what the air module expects to see! Whether you can improve that by using a different one I cannot say, somebody would need to test it!

[@enotbert]

The range modes actually sets the Wi-Fi package perambulation. Because the connection is two ways the AU waits if the GU receives the data and the preamble basically is the time units wait for feedback. The further you fly the longer signal goes. The longer preamble needed. On the other hand, a long preamble does not allow to reduce the package transit time, even if the GU and the AU are physically close to each other. Which leads to the signal delay. For this reason, you need to choose the mode depending on the planned range of the flight.

[@ArxangelRC]

Yeah, figured that, but thanks for the input! :)

[@remainsmemories626]

It would be really cool if you'll be able to disassemble those modules to see what chips this system is based on. Will be really cool if the community will be able to reverse engineer that and make open-source long range hd system

[@ArxangelRC]

There is an open source HD system - OpenHD!

[@Swimfinz]

Yes, ArduPilot is Open Source. A branch of the Parrot CHUCK flight controller is based on this Open Source Code. GeoFencing, waypoint flying, RTH, various telemetry data conveyed on screen makes this a fully customizable software product. If you can read code, ArduPilot is most impressive. It covers drones, fixed wing, boats, helicopters etc. I would not be surprised if some of its code is employed by Boston Dynamics

[@GBird-nj7xf]

I bought this system through your link a couple weeks ago, based on your reveiws, it's clearing customs and on its way now :) Do you have an STL file for your antenna tracker mount for the SIYI receiver I could use? thanks!

[@Freebird_67]

You in Europe or U S. I'm getting ready to pull the trigger but skeptical about using Aliexpress

[@GBird-nj7xf]

@@Freebird_67 I'm in the US, things going smooth so far, got a message it's past customs, in my state now, expect it in a day or two...

[@ArxangelRC]

Nice! Let me know how it goes when you get and test it! Message me on Facebook and I will send you the files for the printed parts! @Aviation Not sure you can purchase it from another place yet!

[@JorgeJimenez2020]

That is quite a result! Very interested in this system

[@ArxangelRC]

It is indeed!

[@SkyGizmmo]

Nice fast follow up. Thanx

[@ArxangelRC]

You are welcome! :)

[@sUASNews]

Ah, here it is, just waiting for the clouds

[@ArxangelRC]

Haha, there were some! :) More to come hopefully!

[@jimmytheriot8978]

Anymore vids coming?

[@ArxangelRC]

As soon as I get the chance to fly this one again!

[@chadfricker3265]

within 5km would the latency be low enough for use on a rc car?

[@ArxangelRC]

Perhaps... but I have my doubts this would do 5kms with a ground vehicle, unless you are somewhere high and have direct and clear line of sight at all times.

[@eltrotamundo2226]

Great video! Looking forward to stepping into a system like yours next year. Thanks for sharing all of this great information. 😁👍

[@ArxangelRC]

You are welcome! :)

[@eprohoda]

Hoow’s life?!awesome job. ArxangelRC!;))

[@ArxangelRC]

Life has been better, but I can't complain much! :P And thank you! :)

[@cohental2000]

What about monopulse antennas in case you lose GPS? A challenging project for you.....

[@ArxangelRC]

Monopulse antennas?

[@cohental2000]

@@ArxangelRC The pedestal will track the uav even if you do not have GPS telemetry. But it is not as accurate as GPS. It is difficult to implement though.

[@cohental2000]

Sorry, I am new to your channel. I just saw your Crossbow Mini Antenna Tracker. Then you have probably already used monopulse tracker.

[@ArxangelRC]

@@cohental2000 Oh, you mean a signal strength based tracker? I have not used one because it feels like the lesser of the two technologies, besides, not many of those available around.

[@WX4CB]

would be nice to try it with inav, i have one in new york waiting for me for christmas :D

[@ArxangelRC]

As long as iNav can output Mavlink telemetry, the HM30 OSD should work OK.

[@ffinybryn]

Excellent. @6:00 I fell off my bike!

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahaha, why are you riding a bike and watching videos?

[@richardjustice6220]

Very tempted to buy this system Have the crossbow I like to fly with goggles How would you get the video to the goggles? Would you need the hdmi bit or could it be done over WiFi or with a 5.8 ghz repeater somehow?

[@ArxangelRC]

For the most part you would need the HDMI output converter! Alternatively... get a VR smartphone box, put your smartphone in there... and you're set!

[@Swimfinz]

I've seen guys use their cellphone as tether(Android or Apple), employing a tablet (ipad, etc) to share CPU cycles. And a $35 Huawei 4G /LTE modem mounted within airplane. Comm flow goes as follows: your craft is covered(battery as limitation) by the 4G / LTE network. Say TMobile or Verizon. Your transmitter sends any signals right to the modem. Slick!

[@nadieselgirl]

Wow, mavlink and video over one connection. Just when I was thinking of upgrading to 1.2 ghz analogue.. Wow.

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahaha, well... I am also waiting on some Matek 1.3Ghz Vtx units because I do want to dip a toe a little bit into that too, see how it works! :) Its not dead yet!

[@IeuanBevan.]

So essentially, you can have a cheap short range antenna on a drone or rc car, however with this it allows you to keep connected to that short range drone antenna?

[@ArxangelRC]

By 'this' I would assume you mean the MFD Mini Crossbow antenna tracker?

[@EnglishTurbines]

Great for those of us not obsessed with a bit of latency...I suppose the next question is, how does it fare when hand tracking the plane and the beam width of those two antennas...I think I would have aimed them out a bit more if hand tracking the model..So, is this system using 2.4g?..🤔🤔🇬🇧

[@ArxangelRC]

The system is 5.8G, and I have no idea about hand tracking, but I guess if you sit next to the tripod, you could do it, perhaps may even be possible to aim those antennas better than the tracker would, since they are not always strongest right front and centre! :P

[@EnglishTurbines]

@@ArxangelRC I used to hand track using a diversity Monitor and a pair of 14dbi panel antennas...It's fairly easy to do as long as you have RSSI for both antennas...🤔😳🇬🇧

[@ArxangelRC]

Well whenever I need to track by hand I just look at the video, when it clears up I am in the right direction! :)

[@EnglishTurbines]

@@ArxangelRC Yes, that's another way..lol...With the antennas aimed out about 20 Deg inclusive, it gave a wide beam to fly in...🤔😀🇬🇧

[@ArxangelRC]

Cool! :)

[@veganautfpv1237]

Great video and I really want this system now!!! I need to remake my full size Drak again and this is the system I want for it.

[@ArxangelRC]

Cool!

[@razeaz10]

Good day Where can I get other video transmitters? Do you have a photo connection somewhere? Thank you

[@ArxangelRC]

Photo connection? If you follow the SIYI link in the video description, that would take you to the official SIYI Aliexpress listing for the system, and there you will see all optional gear for it, including additional air units! On an HD system there are no longer transmitters and receivers since both air and ground units transmit and receive data!

[@iankynaston-richards5239]

Are there no restrictions on altitude or BVLOS for UAVs in Bulgaria?

[@ArxangelRC]

Not many, and between the lack of ultra-light air traffic and nobody generally caring about this stuff, since there but a few people in this country flying this way... there no practical limitations, plus... nobody is really being endangered!

[@iankynaston-richards5239]

@@ArxangelRC I was at first pleased to hear this, then surprised. Before booking my ticket to Bulgaria though, I thought I would check. Sure enough Bulgaria comes under the EASA rules and in fact has stricter local rules (DGCAA) in that maximum height is 50m above the ground for the open category. For the specific category (which requires a RPC licence) it is 120m. Maximum horizontal distance is 500m in all cases without a specific exemption for BVLOS. In addition flying in cloud is specifically banned for all UAVs as it is for all VFR piloted aircraft. So, basically you are breaking every rule in the book. Lol. Of course, no one would ever know, as you say, you fly in remote areas. But, hang on - you've published it on KZbin! And had 23,000 views! You have some big balls my friend. Just in case anyone else decides to use one of these kits, impressive as they are, it might be worth pointing out that if you get caught and prosecuted, it will be a hefty fine, maybe some prison time and an end to your drone flying.

[@ArxangelRC]

@@iankynaston-richards5239 Well thats the thing, isn't it... so many people fly this way, only difference is they don't make it public! Soooooo... end of drone flying... in what sense?! Because sure enough I can do anything I want, regardless of the outcome of such an unfortunate scenario, so long as I don't publish it anywhere!

[@JoeKacmarik]

I took my DJI V1 Goggles with Iflight HD Patch LHCP 5.8GHz Directional Antennas and stock omnis on top. I made it to just 8km before video went out. After returning to home, video did not resume until less than 1.5k. Is that what you meant when you mentioned the video on the SIYI resumed at 14km instead of right over your head?

[@ArxangelRC]

Yes, that is exactly what I meant! :)

[@anarpearls9785]

Hey bud, what an awesome video, love the cloud surf. At 9:23 in the video, you are 23KM+ away with 5KM mode. Am I missing something?

[@ArxangelRC]

Shouldn't be the 5km mode as the 5km and 8km modes have something of a software limit on them to guarantee latency, so they pretty much cut off around that distance! This was in the 24km mode! :)

[@dronevideotravel7518]

Excellent 👍🏻👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks!

[@Vanblade1692]

Impressive tests. Will definitely look at this research 👌 😍

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you! :)

[@alexomole1282]

I Love it! Great video.

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you! :)

[@jasontotz]

Hi Nikola, would you mind sharing the stl file to 3d print the ground unit holder 🙏

[@ArxangelRC]

Hey, yes, drop me a message on Facebook!

[@mrdube3208]

How was the integration with the mfd mini and this video system? You said you had to do a custom cable, is this between your dragonlink and the mfd?

[@ArxangelRC]

Integration between the HM30 and the tracker was flawless! Only required a simple cable to connect the two.

[@tugcekaraman5830]

Great! How much mw does it have?

[@ArxangelRC]

Supposedly 320mW.

[@tugcekaraman5830]

@@ArxangelRC Thank you!

[@ArxangelRC]

@@tugcekaraman5830You are welcome! :)

[@jimmytheriot8978]

Can you guide me on how to connect my crossbow mini antenna tracker to the siyi hm30

[@ArxangelRC]

UART port on the tracker goes to the Mavlink Tx and Rx on the tracker... its pretty simple really! :)

[@jimmytheriot8978]

@@ArxangelRC I tried it but nothing, could it be because I'm running inav this time , not sure about mavlink on inav , if I have to ill switch back to ardrupilot

[@jimmytheriot8978]

Do you think inav is the problem

[@jimmytheriot8978]

@@ArxangelRC I got it to connect to the crossbow mini antenna tracker, got satellites, Dlink, but it will not track , could you do a short video on how you have yours configured?

[@ArxangelRC]

@@jimmytheriot8978 Can iNav output Mavlink? Did you calibrate the compass?

[@ADRIANSFPV]

Awesome range!

[@ArxangelRC]

Indeed!

[@apapam]

Awesome results! My question is about Matek F765. It's discontinued. What do you suggest?

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks! Well... the F405 Wing is still a very good option, and basically the only difference being the smaller servo BEC, meaning you won't be able to power a full sized sedan, and only 1 analogue camera input, which is not a big deal most of the time! Alternatively the H743 is a darn good alternative to the F765, and I think it has more processing capabilities even.

[@jimmytheriot8978]

How long till the next video buddy?

[@ArxangelRC]

Its out now! Happy New Year!

[@beefybeef1326]

This is very impressive... i will look to get one of these...

[@ArxangelRC]

Does perform rather good so far, still need to test with the larger antennas and low to the ground!

[@beefybeef1326]

@@ArxangelRC i look forward to them my friend!

[@ArxangelRC]

:)

[@streepischannel6387]

hi. would you mind sharing the stl file to 3d print the ground unit holder

[@ArxangelRC]

Sure, send me a message on FB and I will send it to you.

[@PKNEXUS]

is it even possible to setup a ground station for DJI FPV?

[@ArxangelRC]

Not sure it is!

[@rparts1]

where can i download the STL file for the HM30 mount for the tracker ?

[@ArxangelRC]

You already did! :P

[@dcabrick]

Great system snd video!

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks! :)

[@joestroup5058]

Hello from Atlanta - I really appreciate your videos on the HM30. I presently use CubePilot HereLink, but I'm thinking of switching over to SIYI products. The MK15 does just about all I want it to do - but the range from the HM30 is a strong factor in it's favor. My question is - what's the best method for manual control when using the HM30? While almost all my mission are automated, there's still always the need for some manual flight control. Can you please speak to the methods you've found to be the most effective? Many thanks!

[@ArxangelRC]

Hi, well the HM30 can indeed carry a control signal to the model, but I do prefer to have a separate radio for that, which provides a bit more safety. Alternatively you can check out SIYI's new radio systems, like the MK32, which is a radio along with the HD system, and they seem to be doing pretty well!

[@sarantis2]

Perfect keep going very nice job

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you! :)

[@ray4lsd]

Intresting, whats the latency?

[@ArxangelRC]

They claim its 150ms in the 5km and 8km modes, supposedly a bit more in the 24km and 40km ones.

[@dupfpv14]

150ms !!! And more for 24km mode ?Ok...not for me..

[@ArxangelRC]

@@dupfpv14 Sure! :)

[@dupfpv14]

But,for your utility, on a ar wing, i wish it's ok 😇

[@dupfpv14]

Sorry for my very bad english, im a french fpv in normandy 😅

[@ghostronics-4113]

in this video where it is showing the distance from ground station ..all your videos showing maximum distance of 1300 m only ..is it altitute ? if it is altitude where is the distance to ground station ?

[@ArxangelRC]

The altitude was somewhere on the side of the screen, distance from home is shown at bottom right, I think there was an icon of a house...

[@ghostronics-4113]

@@ArxangelRC thank you verymuch . Im from Srilanka Navy we are working on a Long range UAV ..i hope this transceiver is the best option.. I have one more question ..what kind of camera i can attach to this module .. i want a 10X zoom camera ..can i attach such camera to this module?

[@ArxangelRC]

@@ghostronics-4113 Well... it is one of the systems, I feel like it may be one of the best when you get the hang of it. The system works with IP cameras with an RTSP video feeds, if you are not using a SIYI gimbal, you should adjust IP addresses as needed to get it working. SIYI have an array of cameras, some have x10 zoom, so you should check them out.

[@endremurti]

Can i use it for drone race? Without any autopilot such apm or pixhawk?

[@ArxangelRC]

It is a standalone system, and can be used on its own, or with any autopilot that can output mavlink! However, latency on this system is too big for quad racing, you would have known that if you had watched the whole video as I do talk about that!

[@HangMan686]

Why didn't you used OpenHD or Ez-Wifi Broadcast?

[@Freebird_67]

I just did the figuring on price difference between openhd and this system and I'm thinking this would be the best route. Its about the same price range maybe a little more expensive but one has to remember the time it take debugging and getting openhd or Rubyhd working. EZ wifi from my understanding is dead. I could be wrong about that but if I had to go the DIY route I'd go Rubyhd but I won't because I hate sitting on a computer trying to debug software and hardware.

[@ArxangelRC]

What WINGSHIGH said plus a few more things - this one is plug-n-play, watch my first video on it and you will hear why, I do talk about that! I haven't tried OpenHD until this moment precisely because of the fact you have to go around looking for the right hardware, and what is recommended doesn't really work, so you have to experiment and waste more time and money! When you draw the line... isn't really that much cheaper, and you've wasted a good deal of time! Will probably get to OpenHD... but this one works out of the box with the factory antennas without any guesswork!

[@jasontotz]

Hi Nikola, what did you change the baud rate to on the Crossbow mini, I mean which value did you set it to in order to work with the Siyi ground unit? I take you were using Dragonlink to control the plane? Thanks in advance!

[@ArxangelRC]

Yes, DragonLink was used for control! I set the tracker baud rate to 57k, it was 38k by default, SIYI is 57k by default.

[@jasontotz]

@@ArxangelRC thanks matey 👍

[@ArxangelRC]

You are welcome!

[@jessefoote4794]

@@ArxangelRC any reason why you dont use the ppm or s-bus that the system includes?

[@jessefoote4794]

sorry should have read further...i too wonder about how failsafe would work on this system, because i really trust my dragonlink lol

[@Chris-vc1dh]

do you think this system will do good on fpv car?

[@ArxangelRC]

Don't see why not.

[@thiha1]

Great.

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks.

[@ehrans2]

the distance mode is nothing related to power, is related to WIFI preamble, more preamble means more delay waiting to send an ACK signal. if you know you will be fliying near, then use the lowest preamble mode, if you know you will need to get far, then use apropiate or maximum preamble mode at an ACK delay cost.When the ACK signal isn't receivedthe communication can be considered lost and every packet received after that time is considered garbage.

[@cosmosdefect1573]

Great explanation! But how does it explain that higher gain antennas are required when you are to use the long range mode and do fly long? I am curious

[@ArxangelRC]

Nice info! Thanks! Good to get some glimpse into how this functions! :)

[@kaikart123]

@@cosmosdefect1573 It's still limited by actual signal power.

[@ArxangelRC]

Larger antennas mean more signal gets caught, so at same output power you can go further out! Real estate is important when it comes to antennas!

[@WW5RM]

So if he run it in 40km mode at distance the video would maintain but probably see pixelation?

[@andykirkwood3188]

Great test and information. What is it like flying around 50-100m from the ground and not cloud surfing?

[@ArxangelRC]

Will test in future flights, need to get a baseline optimal range for the system first.

[@zhanyiduo]

How much range can you get if flying low altitude? Like below 120m

[@ArxangelRC]

No idea yet, those tests are for a future video!

[@briancrick935]

What's the cost of the SIYI unit you're using?

[@ArxangelRC]

Check the link in the description! Just over $400.

I seem to have missed the past where you made it past 6km, what's with the click bait title?

[@ArxangelRC]

Click bait would be if I overstate something, to make it sound better than it is! Fact of the matter is... the system did 18kms, as promised. So no click bait here mate! Sorry to disappoint!

[@Adventures_EC]

tracker link is down

[@ArxangelRC]

@@Adventures_EC See if this works: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_EyMhnGZ

[@ArxangelRC]

For some reason KZbin keeps deleting my comments with a working link, so I will update it in the video description.

[@Adventures_EC]

@@ArxangelRC it does

[@ArxangelRC]

@@Adventures_EC A working link is updated to the video description.

[@gml_ae]

Hello, I also want to get the 3d print file, Could you send me too?

[@ArxangelRC]

Send me a message on Facebook and I can send you the files.

[@kywon_m_vlogs1742]

Wish my DJI Mavic pro went this far. Can only fly for a few miles. Oh! FIRST!

[@ArxangelRC]

Well... on a copter a few miles is all even its battery will allow anyway!

[@kywon_m_vlogs1742]

@@ArxangelRC I have a antenna dish on my controller to give my drone better range. But I live in suburbs so trees are in the way.

[@ArxangelRC]

Right... well... I most systems would have issues with obstacles, especially when that far away!

[@rebekahfrench5747]

Xmas list just got bigger..🤣🤣

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahahahahahaha! Nothing wrong there, just make sure you get your letter to Santa on time! :P

[@cyberbeefpv2810]

great!

[@ArxangelRC]

It is! :)

[@Freebird_67]

Question, When I purchased the fly more $369 version will this come with everything I need to setup and fly? I've never used Aliexpress and don't see where it says what all comes with the fly more package

[@ArxangelRC]

Both packages come with everything you need, I think! Difference is the Fly More Combo has these smaller directional antennas, the cheaper one only has the stick antennas! Both should be good out of the box!

[@Onlyhousefr]

you r the best

[@ArxangelRC]

Thank you! :)

[@wadedittus3552]

Nice video. Sir, is there a way that I can track my plane on my android phone? Iam new know basically.....I see others have ing an active gps tracking on a tablet or phone. I use a sparrow 6-Axis rth flight controller. Your input would be appreciated

[@ArxangelRC]

Well... that functionality would depend on a lot of things! Ideally you need an autopilot capable of outputting Mavlink telemetry!

[@korayerdemir758]

hi would you be so kind and could upload the 3d print template that would be really nice c:

[@ArxangelRC]

Send me a message on FB and I will be able to send you the files.

[@kaikart123]

Now we wait until they updated the firmware for the fix of that wacky speed telemetry data

[@ArxangelRC]

Well there is a new app, and apparently the OSD thing happens in the app! I've not installed it yet, but will try it soon! Mavlink gets to the phone and it does all the OSD magic. :)

[@kaikart123]

@@ArxangelRC very nice

[@ArxangelRC]

Yeah! :)

[@sebptitfpv]

Thank you for proving that dji ce completely mock us with their expensive and closed system

[@ArxangelRC]

Well... I have to admit though... they do run their system at 3 times the bitrate, when running in the 50Mbit/sec mode, and I assume they have indeed poured a sh*t ton of money into research and development... but then again... at this point no other company can afford to do just that!

[@ghafoorhussain6677]

love it :-)

[@ArxangelRC]

Me too! :)

[@jimmytheriot8978]

Just order me a crossbow mini tracker!

[@ArxangelRC]

Awesome! :)

[@christiand8044]

Merci ! Ca m'aidera à une décision pour un achat.😉

[@ArxangelRC]

Glad it is helpful! :)

[@REDROBRCFPV]

Sure it goes far but the latency sorta sucks.

[@Freebird_67]

Not for LR fixedwing it doesn't. 125ms is definitely doable with fixed wing and my guess is with more development on this SIYI system they can probably bring the Latency down to mid 80's or possibly even lower. Its fairly new system and I'm not so sure from my research it's similar to openhd like others are saying. Openhd video isnt near as crisp as this but that's why it has little more latency

[@ArxangelRC]

Sucks for a racing copter, and I did say that in the video! Its OK for long range planes!

[@pettz18]

why do you hate dji so much??

[@sebptitfpv]

Because they scam us, their prices are exaggerated, they refuse to broadcast the video signal on a screen, everything must be only dji compatible, and apparently they are bridling their systems, one day there will be paid update, and miracle 20km today

[@ArxangelRC]

I don't hate them! But I don't enjoy the closed off system, Apple style, although I do understand why their system costs as much as it does... I mean... 50Mbit/sec rate is 3 times what the HM30 does... plus, I am certain they have a ton of money invested in development which no other company can afford!

[@sakarrc5001]

This is such a milestone. Great review. Just to point out positives with DJI, the antenna tracker is totally unnecessary, as you use your neck and approximation of the plane position in your head :D

[@ArxangelRC]

Thanks! And yes, true about the DJI system, but personally I cannot last more than 2 mins with goggles on, let alone an hour long flight!

[@sputniksam]

A very exciting product. I currently use two different HD systems, neither of which are DJI but rather the Amimon Prosight for proximity flying (which is low latency and 720@60fps), and Skydroid which claims it is long range with 720@30fps. However the Skydroid system at best does about 8km, the video averages 15fps, and the overall latency is very poor and I wouldn’t recommend it for piloting with. The Siyi system has great possibilities, especially for the price, I would like more information with regard to latency and whether this reduces when you limit the range (increase in bit rate by any chance?) of the system. I’m definitely looking forward to you doing more content with this system.

[@vladimir2139]

Is it a Skydroid H16/H16 PRO?

[@sputniksam]

@@vladimir2139 No, it’s the T10, and as it essentially uses the same camera and receiver as used with the H16 it’s put me off investing anymore money on Skydroid.

[@vladimir2139]

@@sputniksam Thank you

[@ArxangelRC]

Latency is better at the 5km and 8km modes, but given your 15fps with the current system you have... even at the higher latency the 24km and 40km modes are I think you will be much better off! It is not a race quad system for sure, but for long range flying it is not bad at all!

[@stevefox3763]

Never actually asked why its the case but ruby and open HD retain mavlink telemetry beyond video loss as well, I'll have to ask petru, the ruby creator tomorrow as I have know now ha ha.

[@ArxangelRC]

Nice, let us know what he says! :)

[@WX4CB]

those sony camcorder batteries will last for ages, mine on the holly land last for a full 4 hours

[@ArxangelRC]

Good to know! :P

[@marioorlovic]

These tests are great, but the problem is that they are done at a huge altitude, of course it is not very realistic in real flight I think the maximum altitude should not exceed 300 meters from the ground, but unfortunately we can not see such tests before buying the product. we are often disappointed after a purchase

[@ArxangelRC]

The tests are at this altitude because when I have to far out, I rely on altitude to get back if I run out of battery! Even at 300 meters in theory distance will be the same so long as there is direct line of sight with the plane! Also... around here I DO NOT have a large and flat enough area to do 18kms and not end up behind a mountain or a hill!

[@marioorlovic]

@@ArxangelRC I like that you do every cast, and we are waiting for the video at a lower altitude to make it easier for us to decide to buy the product you are testing, thank you very much!

[@ArxangelRC]

Will do some low altitude tests when I am done with the high altitude ones so I can have a baseline idea of what the system can do in optimal conditions! :)

[@marioorlovic]

@@ArxangelRC Thank you very much, the reason why it is important for us in Europe and especially Germany is not to climb high altitudes precisely because of the helicopters that are always there and especially along the ALPS where for example I fly once again thank you very much!!! :)

[@ArxangelRC]

I see! Well... will get to those tests eventually! :)

[@MessingWithCode]

hahahaahahahaahaha 6:20

[@ArxangelRC]

True story! :P

[@엄홍철-n2j]

Hm30공중 연결방법

[@ArxangelRC]

What does this mean?

[@MS-nj9le]

What's this channel, some grownass man who wasted all his life playing with toys?

[@ArxangelRC]

Yeah! Definitely not wasted then, its just you being jealous! 😝

[@Freebird_67]

Guess I’m selling my DJI gear.

[@ArxangelRC]

Hahaha, well not if you want the high bitrate! :)

[@Freebird_67]

@@ArxangelRC I just sold my V1 set DJI goggles. That will fund this SiYI system. I’ll keep my V2 DJI goggles for Quads because IMO DJI isn’t really setup for serious long range. Especially the OSD

[@ArxangelRC]

@@Freebird_67 It is not! It is for low latency proximity flying on race quads! :) Has its use!

[@Freebird_67]

@@ArxangelRC exactly

[@ArxangelRC]

@@Freebird_67 :)

[@FPVSteve]

It's impressive but I find myself asking what's the point of long range HD? You can get more range and an acceptable picture that degrades nicely with an analogue setup and you don't NEED HD when you can barely see anything on the ground anyway.... just record it in 4K on a dedicated camera then watch it back later. No need for all this expense and freezing image, just fly through the "snow" of analogue and get the same results. You even said yourself that you wished you'd had the 4K camera onboard to record the clouds - so why bother? Just get a cheap analogue setup, enjoy the live image then watch it back in HD later. Although, it is a nice technical achievement I suppose.

[@Freebird_67]

I'm guessing you haven't tried HD FPV. Once you have tried it you'll understand why pilots like it so much. Yes Analog is nice but since I went to HD a rarely fly any of my Analog models especially quads. Quads running HD is insane and the pros on using HD with quads is you can see every little tiny branch that you couldn't with Analog and you'd most definitely crash. I can zip through the wood with HD and not hit a single branch.

[@FPVSteve]

@@Freebird_67 I fly a DJI FPV and the video is fantastic but it's used for floating around close-by and actually checking things out... my wings and other aircraft are still on analog... I just don't see the point when this so-called HD video isn't that much clearer than a good analogue setup and you'd end up recording a better quality version anyway to make up for it. Why go through all the trouble when the end result (a poor quality image) is the same as analogue with more limitations on range and image degradation? Except for technical achievement of course - I just don't understand why people are so hyped for it when it doesn't actually give you much more than you already have.

[@ArxangelRC]

Actually the difference in image quality at distance is quite considerable between the analogue and the HD, however, that may even not be the most important thing, although it is still quite important! With the analogue when chasing clouds I usually have to guess where I am going because the nuances in those clouds are way too delicate for the analogue system to pick them up and transmit to the ground, especially if I am more than 10kms away, whereas the HD system does not suffer from these limitations and you do get to see more - more details, more depth, more colour variation and you do get a better idea where to go exactly! Furthermore, HD is a lot better at ignoring interference than analogue, and it does show! Will publish two screen grabs in just a bit, when I am done replying to comments, and you will see what I mean! Both at 18kms, both with the Duck, both in that flying location, one is using the analogue system the other is the HD one! It is quite the difference!

[@justainchoe6141]

The DJi jokes are cringe af. He thinks he’s cute or something.

[@ArxangelRC]

Not jokes... facts! :)

[@altamashmalik7165]

Hii can u drop yout contact information i am planning to buy hm 30 for one of my project and have a few doubt regarding failsafe and technical support for the product

[@ArxangelRC]

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