Aryan Origins | Migration Theory and Etymological History

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@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 3 жыл бұрын
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@joerogue231
@joerogue231 3 жыл бұрын
Please make more video on the Parthian empire
@MickeyMouse-el5bk
@MickeyMouse-el5bk 3 жыл бұрын
3:50 Müller was great. The high culture was a mix of Aryan and Drawid. See Harappa
@MickeyMouse-el5bk
@MickeyMouse-el5bk 3 жыл бұрын
The invasion happend. See the Veda. Arya Vs Mleccha
@MickeyMouse-el5bk
@MickeyMouse-el5bk 3 жыл бұрын
7:00 we can conclude that the central Asian nomadtribes which called themselves Arya where white
@MickeyMouse-el5bk
@MickeyMouse-el5bk 3 жыл бұрын
17:40 Stop! Heyerdahl never said something supremacist! He quoted logically that the Mayan had contact to Egypt
@mehryaarvid
@mehryaarvid 3 жыл бұрын
In 3000 years of Iran history, it was always used as “aryan people” or “aryan lineage” and other ethnic groups like Turks are referred to as “Aniran” meaning non-aryan, but now these guys claim it has nothing to do with race….
@NegativeBodhiImage
@NegativeBodhiImage 3 жыл бұрын
Of course ppl never considered themselves racial groups, considering thats an 18/19th Century term, and etnos or ethnicity was specifically a Greek word synonymous with natos or [born of] nationality that migrated into European language. But Id like to see these guys explain the blondism and blue eyed caricatures of personages from India (incl Buddha) to predynastic red headed Egyptians like the mummy referred to as "Ginger" and statues of ruling elites of Egypt who had blue eyes, when Blue eyes is a recessive trait that emerged proto Indo European peoples around the Black Sea approx 6-8000 years bpe. Protip you cant do it. Blondism and Red hair are purely N. European traits and Blue eyes was a trait the expanded out from a single PIE mating pair. All the wordplay in the world cant dismiss the fact that IE peoples from N. India/Pakistan/Kaffiristan to Iran to N. Africa to Europe are all from one shared lineage and were at least part of the ruling classes of all the relevant nations of history. We are brothers and sisters.
@coreyleavell6921
@coreyleavell6921 3 жыл бұрын
I think they had a concept of race, but otherwise true and true. Modern genetics has proven the migration of fair haired blue eyed ppl from the Eurasian steppe. Also, Aryan refers to the people of the age of Aries. Atlantian descendants.
@horusba2620
@horusba2620 3 жыл бұрын
@@NegativeBodhiImage the mummies with red hair is a result of tobacco that they use during the mummification process. Nothing to do with European or caucasians
@horusba2620
@horusba2620 3 жыл бұрын
@@NegativeBodhiImage blue eyes and lighter skin are not characteristic or exclusivity of Europeans. Stop being manipulated by racist uncultured scientists and Eurocentric enterprises
@slavenarkaimovski3897
@slavenarkaimovski3897 3 жыл бұрын
But it have matters with slavs,since aryans are slavic people.And this SAMA chanel is lying to you,just like other 'history chanels'.I know that some people don't know this,but its been proven long time ago,than aryans are slavs who has come to india in 8000BC.They just don't want you to know real truth,so wake up man.
@curtisthomas2670
@curtisthomas2670 3 жыл бұрын
Irony: one of the ethnic groups persecuted, and murdered by the supposedly "pure Aryan" Natzis were the Romani aka "Gypsies", who were actually an lndo-Aryan group.
@stevenleslie8557
@stevenleslie8557 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was Hermann Goering who said, I decide who is Aryan and who is not.
@alexdunphy3716
@alexdunphy3716 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. The people who originally invented the Aryan term and identity were almost certainly the Andronovo people, who were genetically European. These people then mixed with the Bactria-Margiana Archeological Complex(BMAC) and this mixed group then invaded Iran and the Indus Valley
@alexdunphy3716
@alexdunphy3716 3 жыл бұрын
@@दीपकनागर-थ5छ that's because most central and western Europeans are R1b. R1a is not the only "Aryan" haplotype
@ottovon5182
@ottovon5182 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexdunphy3716 That's a misinformed opinion. First of all saying Andronovo were "European" is wrong to start with. Yes, they shared huge genetic similarity with Corded Ware Culture of Europe, but neither of them had any common understanding of "Europeaness" it's like saying Yamnaya were Siberian, cuz they derived a huge part of their ancestry from Ancestral North Eurasians. The European identity is a modern construct, not applicable to these ancient people. Secondly, it's not certain if or not Andronovo themselves started calling themselves Aryans before they started migrating south towards BMAC. It's equally plausible that they came with this whole idea of Aryan identity after migrating into BMAC, when they mixed with the Iran-Chalcolithic Farmers of Oxus civilization (who's land they inhabited) infact Andronovo Homeland was itself situated over the Oxus Homeland which means there was mixing even before their migration southwards, Eastern sites of Andronovo show even mixing with East Eurasian populations. Finally, there's no evidence of any large scale "invasion" of Indus Valley Civilization (peaking arounf 2000 BCE), infact it was already mostly gone by the time Indo-Aryans migrated into India (1500 BCE). Hence it is more plausible that the process was more of a migration (settlement with no major aim of subjugation, with possible minor skirmishes here and there) rather than full on invasion .
@ottovon5182
@ottovon5182 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexdunphy3716 Nope, Aryan Haplogroup is exclusively R1a1a, there's almost 0 evidence of R1b being present in either Andronovo or even Sintashta. R1b is not related to Indo-Iranians at all.
@human8454
@human8454 Жыл бұрын
The word āryan is often found in Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain texts. In the Indian spiritual context, it can be applied to Rishis or to someone who has mastered the four noble truths and entered upon the spiritual path.
@babahanuman83
@babahanuman83 Жыл бұрын
its found in almost all indoeuropean languages from the european atlantic coast in the west to india in the east.
@iamtheinvincible1
@iamtheinvincible1 Жыл бұрын
Arya means followers of vedas
@human8454
@human8454 Жыл бұрын
@@iamtheinvincible1 there are 4 Vedas
@iamtheinvincible1
@iamtheinvincible1 Жыл бұрын
@@human8454 yes, rigveda, yajurveda, samveda, atharvaveda
@babahanuman83
@babahanuman83 Жыл бұрын
not only. @@iamtheinvincible1
@artinrahideh1229
@artinrahideh1229 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient Iranians( Persians) also called their language( Old Persian) "Arya"
@ALOK-pe5fp
@ALOK-pe5fp 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient Iranian didn't worship allah 😂 they were Hindus
@AuraJewel
@AuraJewel 2 жыл бұрын
@@ALOK-pe5fp Zoroastrian actually, learn to accept other peoples identities, if you want to respected too
@peymankoohi8195
@peymankoohi8195 2 жыл бұрын
@@ALOK-pe5fp Persian used to practice Mithraism and Zarthostrianism
@ek_villain.4043
@ek_villain.4043 2 жыл бұрын
@@ALOK-pe5fp emotional demage 😭🤣🤣😂
@ALOK-pe5fp
@ALOK-pe5fp 2 жыл бұрын
@@peymankoohi8195 before that 😂😂😂 They were too invented from caves 😂😂
@StephiSensei26
@StephiSensei26 2 жыл бұрын
This is precisely why I believe Ancient history is so vital in our elementary schools, and should be presented in depth, and not simply skipped over in one or two chapters (paragraphs). Young people want and need to know who they are, and where they came from, and, that they all have value. And "Value" is not dictated by skin color.
@michaelarnold1672
@michaelarnold1672 2 жыл бұрын
Sh I had it saved ,I can't find it anymore ,- they are trying too bury the history of the Aryan Race ,,because Others feel the word is too strong !!
@michaelarnold1672
@michaelarnold1672 2 жыл бұрын
I believe your right ,but this guy is teaching somthing that is not Accurate,,The Real Aryan Writings Are so hard to get ,,from Sumerian Times ,,it's the Actual Begining Race of white people ,,,I came across some of this stuff on the computer,wi
@susanmenegus3863
@susanmenegus3863 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelarnold1672 that's crazy
@marasimix9369
@marasimix9369 2 жыл бұрын
The Aryan invasion theory into India has been debunked maybe you should consider the out of India theory which they're trying to hide & do have evidence one being the DNA marker of European House mice which comes from India & we all know where caravans of people go their animals follow too!!!
@StephiSensei26
@StephiSensei26 2 жыл бұрын
@@marasimix9369 Thank you, I'm open to all sources of info.
@MackerelCat
@MackerelCat 3 жыл бұрын
The title of the video is a little misleading, it was more about the debunking of aryan invasion and the unfortunate marring of the study of aryans by 20th C race politics. There is however a lot that wasn’t discussed, like the actual evidence of Aryan origins and migration, since they did actually exist. Didn’t talk about linguistic origins and data. And then at the end made the suggestion that everyone can be aryan regardless of skin colour. That seems silly to me, why do people need to be called aryan to be considered noble or civilised or cultured? I got so confused at that point and started to think this was actually more a polemic in favour of a certain political position, especially given the misleading title. Bit of a shame because the aryans are such an interesting and influential group.
@jimhalpert3269
@jimhalpert3269 3 жыл бұрын
Aryan Invasion Theory has been debunked. You're right, it's because of the "race politics" that this identity was thrust upon the people of the Indian subcontinent.
@FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime
@FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimhalpert3269 Who debunked it? Do you understand that there are people in India who have blonde hair and blue eyes and who live up around the Himalayas, these are not people who descended from the British occupation. These are organic Indians. The _Kalash_ people of Pakistan are ideal Hitler Aryans, they all have blonde hair and blue eyes and they worship the ancient Indian gods.
@FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime
@FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime 3 жыл бұрын
@Amal Paniker "Thou Indra, art destroyer of the cities, the slayer of the Dasyus, the prosperer of man, the lord of the skies" Rig Veda VIII- 87.6 "Indra, the slayer of Vrittra, the destroyer of cities, has scattered the Dasyu hosts sprang from a black womb." Rig Veda II 20.6 The Rig Veda praises the god who "destroyed the Dasyans and protected the Aryan color". Rig Veda III 34.9 It goes on to thank the god who "bestowed on his white friends the fields, bestowed the sun, bestowed the water". Rig Veda I 100.18 "Indra protected in battle the Aryan worshiper, he subdued the lawless for Manu, he conquered the black skin" "Black skin is impious" Rig Veda II 12.4 "One car-wheel of the sun thou rollest forward , and one thou settest free to roll for Kutsa. Thou slewest noseless Dasyus with thy weapon" Rig Veda V 29.10 "Active and bright have they come forth, impetuous in speed like bulls, driving the black skin far away" Rig Veda IX 41.1 "With him too is this rain of him that comes like herds: Indra throws drops of moisture on his yellow beard. When the sweet juice is shed he seeks the pleasant place, and stirs the worshiper as wind disturbs the wood." Rig Veda X 23.4 "At the sweet draft the Soma-drinker waxed in might, the iron one with yellow beard and yellow hair, he will bear his bay steeds over all distress". Rig Veda X 96.8 "He hath slayed Dasyus after his wont, and laid them low with arrows. The mighty thunderer with his fair-complexioned friends won the land, the sunlight, and the waters." Rig Veda I 100.18
@evaosirus6055
@evaosirus6055 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a lot of similar information and sort of disappointed at its absence too. There’s a KZbin channel that shares mythology and history including Indian history and it actually sites the invasion theory and even connects that to the foundation of caste. So I wanted to see what other information was available about “Aryan people”. I think this video is useful in a completely different way. Racism, white supremacy, and European influence can be observed in most parts of the world and to think that the misinterpretation of Vedic texts can be considered one of its roots is astounding to me. I feel more inclined to learn about India because of how much it’s indirectly impacted the world in this dimension.
@angelboy2901
@angelboy2901 2 жыл бұрын
this video was a let down.period.
@voiceofthefriend2053
@voiceofthefriend2053 2 жыл бұрын
Modern day historical revisionism. The Aryan invasion is not a "theory" and is written of in old Indian texts and understood by Northern Indians to this day.
@KaiserOfAryas
@KaiserOfAryas 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Hindu and a North Indian, Which texts are you referring to? Vedas? If so then I'd like to tell you that the Aryan tribes fought the people called "Dasyus/Dasa" and Micheal witzel and many other scholars have said that these were the North Iranian tribes. And Aryan invasion theory is debunked, The correct theory is "Indo Aryan migration theory", IAMT/AMT for short.
@ryanparker4996
@ryanparker4996 2 жыл бұрын
@@KaiserOfAryas then why does Geneology match up with this "debunked myth" lmfao cope mate cope
@KaiserOfAryas
@KaiserOfAryas 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanparker4996 Geneology supports Aryan migration theory, Not Aryan invasion. The heck are you even talking about? And the best way to support the invasion theory is to give archeological evidences, Which you failed to do so. The academia has discarded AIT long ago, You don't seem to have knowledge about it though
@ryanparker4996
@ryanparker4996 2 жыл бұрын
@@KaiserOfAryas Aryans brought horses to India. The original invaders buried their horses when they died. Look it up.
@satish6797
@satish6797 8 ай бұрын
@@ryanparker4996 We had horses even before that. we have drawings of horses in caves which are older than ur entire races
@selwrynn6702
@selwrynn6702 Жыл бұрын
The thing with the term "invasion" is that due to the sheer numbers of modern populations what we think of as invasions are dramatically different from what they would have been back 4000 years ago. What seems to be agreed upon in this is that groups of people from modern day Iran came down into modern day India. Due to the numbers of humans back then it certainly wasn't some systematic thing where one great nation conquered another, but when tribes move into new areas archeology shows us that usually one group beats up the other and then those who survive any conflict that occured merge together. We also know that the chariot is a weapon of war back in ancient times and it only appears in india after this aryan migration. Point being, during this migration there was likely conflict between the settled culture and the migratory one after which the two peoples became one. Now is this an "invasion" in the way we think of the term today? no, probably not, but in a historical context of a few tribes warring over territory then maybe it was.
@charumohan
@charumohan Жыл бұрын
True, Britishers were the real loots.
@parjanyashukla176
@parjanyashukla176 Жыл бұрын
British, Germans and other Nordic peoples are the real ARYANS. Others like Romas and Jews are eternal enemy of the ARYAN. Indians are mixed with DRAVIDIANS and therefore a savage race, should be subservient to the WHITE, NORDIC ARYAN HERRENRASSE. Talent, abilities and hard work are irrelevant.
@stxfdt1240
@stxfdt1240 Жыл бұрын
Show evidence then....IVC going out was purely due to geographic reasons....you want to self satisy your ego like Adolf back in the 1940s only to get bashed in the face
@Pinicle_of_evolution
@Pinicle_of_evolution Жыл бұрын
​@@charumohanthere were already chariots in India mate look up recent excavations
@Ghost007-yu2jm
@Ghost007-yu2jm 10 ай бұрын
ANY ONE WHO REALLY believes in proto-indoeuropean language and aryan invasion/migration theory, pls watch these videos and tell me in reply what you think about all that shown in these videos-- 1) Hinduism and Judaism - Shared Roots Different Branches? , this video is one example which debunks the aryan invaison/migration theory) 2)The Rigveda Chronology And The Indo European Homeland | Dr Aleksandr Semenenko 3) Semenenko A.A. Shield Agrument of the Indo European Dispersal out of India 4)The Tarimian Trace of the Indo European Dispersal | Dr Aleksandr Semenenko(this tells about the connection with the tarim basin mummies in china)
@danielgordon9444
@danielgordon9444 3 жыл бұрын
Ethnic empowerment is a strange subject. Its seen as good when the subject ethnicity is on the bottom of the social hierarchy, but bad when the subject is at the top.
@algepaca
@algepaca 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it’s so sad in a way. Everyone seems to want to jump to value judgements immediately. It would be so cool if we could talk about ethnicity and the genetic makeup of a population without assuming that it’s about superiority or anything. Obviously this whole topic has been abused by racist pseudo science in the past, but it’s not very helpful to just try to reverse the entire narrative to make people feel better. If we keep assigning so much meaning and value to anyones ethic/racial superiority, humanity is probably never going to overcome racism. Just because one population was conquered by the other, the descendants of the conquered population are somehow lesser people? That’s just such a backwards mindset. Sorry for the rant, I just got super confused by this kind of stuff in the past to the point where I thought that there was never any kind of aryan migration. Until it came up in one of my classes where it was mentioned by an Iranian professor of mine and I asked if it was actually still scientific consensus. I felt so stupid for just buying into this Out Of India narrative when all the evidence seems to point in a different direction. But yeah, I hope that some day we can just collectively move on from even feeling that ethnic empowerment is even necessary. Kind of reminds me of the whole Olmec head thing that has been going on.
@algepaca
@algepaca 3 жыл бұрын
Oh lol I’m so sorry for ranting, that wasn’t intentional but I guess it’s a good thing to have a conversation about this kind of stuff 🙃
@MiguelTyson
@MiguelTyson 3 жыл бұрын
@@algepaca The inability to entertain such subject matter and not let it devolve into “my race is better than yours” is an indicator of the state of intellectualism today.
@bencopeland3560
@bencopeland3560 3 жыл бұрын
@@algepaca no worries. It was a good rant. All things that needed to be said.
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 3 жыл бұрын
It's also good when an ethnicity wants to claim to be a powerless, persecuted minority, but really hold all the power.
@bishopbling4115
@bishopbling4115 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like almost everyone here in the comments is an "expert" on Aryans.
@mackelby1
@mackelby1 3 жыл бұрын
The word expert had lost all meaning. The word has become just as skewed and meaningless as the word racism.
@patriotpioneer
@patriotpioneer 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like there is a agenda against it...
@coreyleavell6921
@coreyleavell6921 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like some people think knowing things like history is bad.
@patriotpioneer
@patriotpioneer 3 жыл бұрын
@@coreyleavell6921 Guess it depends on the version...
@coreyleavell6921
@coreyleavell6921 3 жыл бұрын
Sure, I guess. But there's undeniable genetic research that contradicts some of the claims here. People know this because they follow news about genetics because it's interesting and we are all curious about our origins. That's it.
@dennisswift3032
@dennisswift3032 2 жыл бұрын
Learning all this later in life,would have been very nice to have learned this earlier when I was younger and teach others to get along with each other.We are more related than we think we are.
@jugg9140
@jugg9140 2 жыл бұрын
same here learning all these at 30, education/school system sucks it was nothing but to earn good grades.
@jimgeorge3273
@jimgeorge3273 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why it's not mandatory taught in college. I believe if everyone we're to learn this it would end racism by skin color. In truth according to this video. If we're civilized that makes us all Aryan no matter what our skin color.
@jugg9140
@jugg9140 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimgeorge3273 grow up, the reason is because Aryans still exist and some people control the world, history is written by the victors.
@jimgeorge3273
@jimgeorge3273 2 жыл бұрын
@@jugg9140 America and most so the European countries are not racist take your hate elsewhere. Move to some country where others think like yourself. We won't lose any sleep over losing all you America haters.
@jimgeorge3273
@jimgeorge3273 2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe America is a racist country. In fact I thinknthe exact opposite.
@marioscubla6558
@marioscubla6558 Жыл бұрын
This video, by far, is one of the BEST one and most objective one on the topic of the Aryan. I am a Persian and have studied my history objectively for the past 35 years and know for a FACT that the word ARYAN is a Persian word first appeared in the Zoroasterian religion book Zend Avesta some 4000 years ago during the Pishdadian dynesty in Iran. It is mentioned that Persians are true Aryans by the virtue of being Zoroasterian.The meaning of Aryan in Persian is moral, noble, or ethical and NOTHING MORE. There is absolutely no gentic Haplogroup fantasy associated with this adjective word Aryan. Now some missguided people can eternally delve into the fake Aryan eastern European which absolutely a joke and a pure falsification of history since there in NO gentic identity associated with Aryan. FAKE science is everywhere now-a-days but 4000 years ago no body called themselves Aryans but Persians and their direct cousins Medes, and Parthians. Dariush the great (Darius) 2550 years ago in Parseh (Persepolis) on a golden tablet proclaimed that: I am Dariush King of Kings, king of lands containing all kinds of men, .................A son of a Persian having Aryan lineage (noble, moral, ethical lineage). The rest is history, and we are ONE race the HUMAN race. I suffice here.
@ssir5927
@ssir5927 Жыл бұрын
Are you not aware that Indo-Aryan peoples extensively inhabited Eastern Europe well into the historical period? Scythians and later the Sarmatians are unquestioningly Indo-Aryan and lived from the Danube in modern Hungary all the way east past the Urals. The descendants of the Sarmatians, the Ossetians literally call themselves Aryan in their own language to this day...
@marioscubla6558
@marioscubla6558 Жыл бұрын
@ssir5927 Did you know that almost the entire continent of Europe also call themselves Aryan? Even the Greeks! Also, the entire country of India, Pakistan, Azarbaijan, North Africans, Russians, Ukrainians, and many others call themselves the TRUE Arans, and everyone else is a second class to them? Yes, the name Aryan has become a CURE for the inferiority complex these people have about their own race! Aryan is NOT a race as invented by the French, English, then the Germans. Aryan is simply a character identity of a devoted Zoroasterian individual of Iranian origin and nothing more. Now you can believe in anything you like but I already explained the origin and meaning of Aryan. Peace ✌️.
@ssir5927
@ssir5927 Жыл бұрын
@@marioscubla6558I am referring to the actual endonym of the Ossetian people, not some vague hyper-race thing. My point is that the horse riding militarily dominant ancestors of the modern Iranians are in fact European. Genetic evidence has tied them to the Baltic of all places. Actual historical evidence places Iranian peoples in Europe. This is not myth, but actual written history from not even that long ago.
@marioscubla6558
@marioscubla6558 Жыл бұрын
@ssir5927 You are drawing your information from the white supremacist Eurocentric history, which is full of FAKE glorification of the imaginary dominant white European race! But in REALITY, true science has already proven that chronologically the white race came to existence roughly some 7000 years ago during the bronz age and before that they were brown skin, black hair people living in north Asia to Eurasia where exactly the Persians, Meds, Parthians, and many other indo Iranian people used to live as simple hunter gatherers. While some of these people migrated to the west into the European continent void of vitamin D in their diet.......low UV sunlight......they gradually became white. Whereas the 3 major indo Iranian tribes the Persians, Medes, and Parthians, just migrated to southwest Asia from north central Asia into the Iranian platue. These Iranian people had black or brown hair, somewhat olive skin color, and morphologically tall and slender, which had NOTHING to do with their ancient pre European cousins who had moved to Europe several thousands years earlier and Genetically MUTATED into a much lighter skin, hair, and eye color. There is absolutely no other connections between Iranians to Europeans other than what I mentioned. The Osetians over millenia have mixed so much with Slavic people that they don't even look like Iranians. Finally, horse riding is a skill achieved by many different people over at least 13000 years ago and not just by Iranians. I hope I covered all the topics on the Aryan myth invented in the 17th century first by the French, English, and the Germans.
@far.e3061
@far.e3061 Жыл бұрын
@@ssir5927 They are not indo Aryan. Indo Aryan specifically refers to a group of indo European ancestry that inhabited India. It was only these people and their Iranian counterparts that ever used the term Aryan as a self designation in any way, often cultural. It is not genetic. It definitely does not refer to any European when it comes to this context. And it has no significant value. Just another name used by one of thousands of cultures throughout history.
@abracadabra2752
@abracadabra2752 Жыл бұрын
Very well presented the best I have heard till now. Will be nice if you can continue on this by discussion on 1) Rig Veda talks about REGIONS ONLY within Asia mainly India, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan 2) Was any Sanskrit like alphabhets used outside Indian subcontinent?(not words) 3) What percentage of migration took place into India ? 4) Who will the migrants into India call a Arya the Mohinjidaro people who were settled down so well with all knowlege of food, archtecture and what not or themselves 5) Any books outside matching Rig Veda. 7) All New Arch. discoveries in TamilNadu,North India
@curiouskid1547
@curiouskid1547 8 ай бұрын
Rig Veda described only parts of India. Not Asia. Writing from that period has not survived. We have archaic brahmi in Sri Lanka. Before that it's mostly like Indus valley seals.
@vinrusso821
@vinrusso821 3 жыл бұрын
He never explains the caste system that was brought about the same time.
@NegativeBodhiImage
@NegativeBodhiImage 3 жыл бұрын
(he doesnt explain the prevalence of blue eyed personages of Dynastic histories either, (from India to Persia to Egypt etc) considering blue eyes was strictly a PIE trait emerging from the Black Sea about 6-8000 years bpe. interesting the information he neglects, its almost as if theres a narrative or an agenda afoot.
@tewekdenahom485
@tewekdenahom485 3 жыл бұрын
So what? That's for a different video
@patriotpioneer
@patriotpioneer 3 жыл бұрын
@@tewekdenahom485 So what...? You serious or a Troll? Information is invalid if it is skewed... Kinda like Government Statistics.
@josephkania642
@josephkania642 3 жыл бұрын
@@NegativeBodhiImage I thought that blue eyes was a trait first seen in the weird dark skinned Western hunter gatherers. The trait seems to been selected for as current European genomes have just a trace of the old hunter gatherers left.
@ophilliaophillia5918
@ophilliaophillia5918 3 жыл бұрын
VIN RUSSO. I was thinking the same thing. Where does the Caste System come from. And other ideas of people who come from the upper classes that they are superior to people who are the same ethnicity. Did these ideas come from Ayranism
@50megatondiplomat28
@50megatondiplomat28 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to have this video separated into two videos, one about the racist history of Aryan theory and one composing modern Aryan description and origin. It was confusing to follow.
@grs6262
@grs6262 3 жыл бұрын
Confusion was likely the aim..
@willbass2869
@willbass2869 3 жыл бұрын
Dazzle and confuse...
@MrSwitchblade327
@MrSwitchblade327 2 жыл бұрын
Purposely done to please his masters
@ryanparker4996
@ryanparker4996 2 жыл бұрын
There is NO distinction. The narration of this video is technically and conceptually wrong about nearly everything.
@robertferguson851
@robertferguson851 2 жыл бұрын
The confusion was no accident. The creators of this pseudo documentary did this to use a supposed scholarly inquiry into Indo-European origins as a vehicle to advance their anti-racist political agenda. This is so very typical of the way leftist agitprop is done and, unfortunately, the majority of the dim bulbs who watch this will be completely suckered by it.
@MayankYadavdivine
@MayankYadavdivine Жыл бұрын
The word Arya is used in Vasistha Dharma Sutras as follows: The country of the Âryas (Âryâvarta) lies to the east of the region where (the river Sarasvatî) disappears, to the west of the Black-forest, to the north of the Pâripâtra (mountains), to the south of the Himâlaya. 8 (According to others it lies to the south of the Himâlaya) and to the north of the Vindhya range (being limited east and west by the two oceans). 9 Acts productive of spiritual merit, and customs which (are approved of) in that country, must be everywhere acknowledged (as authoritative); But not different ones, (i.e. those) of (countries where) laws opposed (to those of Âryâvarta prevail). Some (declare the country of the Âryas to be situated) between the (rivers) Gaṅgâ and Yamunâ. These texts clearly indicates that the Aryavarta exist in only in India between the Himalayas and Vindhyachal mountains and they no where mentions about facial features or anything whether they rely on the fact Arya is a person of high spiritual merit pure who performs certain rituals which other people don't as u can see 2.103. But he who does not (worship) standing in the morning, nor sitting in the evening, shall be excluded, just like a Sudra, from all the duties and rights of an Aryan
@Tea-oz4iy
@Tea-oz4iy 11 ай бұрын
It's New delhi where our ancestors resided and since it's our capital lfmao
@Burningid99
@Burningid99 5 ай бұрын
You guys have a Black Forest too?
@sreenarayanram5194
@sreenarayanram5194 4 ай бұрын
Adi Divyan /vayanaattukulavan theyyam Divyan/thiyyan Daivam/theyyam Thiyyas god's are theyyams Centuries old thiyyas theyyam thottams do mention the meaning of the name thiyya as divya/divyan (in english it means divine) several times in the theyyam rituals Thiyyas are shaktheya hindhus from Malabar kerala thiyya means divyan/divine and theyyam means daivam/ deva and in central asian and Chinese language also the word thiya meens divine/deva or heaven and the ritual performance of the divine is called theyyam/daivam And most theyyams are related with thiyya community of north malabar and thiyyas ancestor god is vayanaattu kulavan/aadi divyan/aadi thiyyan and ancestor godess or kula devi is Arya poomaala bagavathi and sree kurumba bagavathi is also an important goddess of thiyyas almost all sree kurumba kavu and temples in malabaar is related with thiyya and they also worship muthappan an aryan god of thiyyas a mixture of Shiva and vishnu as one divine soul theyyam in all parts in the country and many of thiyya theyyams do mention Arya word many times in their theyyam thottams like Arya nation,Arya land, Arya god,Arya king,Arya daughter etc.. and the nearby hindhu communitys around north malabar area also adopted theyyams from years and gentic studies by indian government authorities also saying thiyyas have an out side origin from south india and thiyya played a huge role in the spread of kalaripayattu, Ayurveda and theyyams in malabar kerala and the ruling hindhu party in india BJP (bhara thiya janatha party) also named after this community 'bharathiya means divine people of bharat' it use to glorify the people of bharat. And the word 'thi' also means in Malayalam 🔥 fire(agni) the purest thing and its colour is orange which is a sacred colour for hindhus and in central asian-chinese vedic hindhu-bhudhist mixed religion they used the word Thiya to glorify their gods like Dàzìzàithiān (Shiva), Dìshìtiān (Indra), Dàfàntiān (Brahma), Jíxiáng Tiānnǚ (Lakshmi), Biàncáithiān (Saraswati or Bharathi) and scy-thians are also an indo iranian tribe lived in central asia and bow 🏹 and arrow is their sacred weapons in anciant greek also thia means divine/god/ goddess and a goddess called 'theia' also present in Greece methodology and many gods also carry 'thia' name in ancient greek religion and the fire 🔥 goddess is called 'hestia' in ancient greek mythology and in central asia a kingdom called scythia was also present in history In the Vedic tradition, soma (Sanskrit: सोम, romanized: sóma) is a ritual drink of importance among the early Vedic Indo-Aryans.The Rigveda mentions it, particularly in the Soma Mandala. Gita mentions the drink in chapter 9 It is equivalent to the Iranian haoma(alcohol drink)The relationship between humans and the deity was one of transaction, with Agni (the sacrificial fire) taking the role of messenger between the two. Strong traces of a common Indo-Iranian religion remain visible, especially in the Soma cult and the fire worship and animal sacrifice is also part of early vedic tribs 🙄🤔
@vikkiwilson5069
@vikkiwilson5069 3 жыл бұрын
Migration of Indo-Europeans entirely replaced the population in Britain. But definitely not conquest!
@TheRick8866
@TheRick8866 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not
@kmaher1424
@kmaher1424 3 жыл бұрын
Genetic studies do not confirm "replacement"...
@augustuscaesar8287
@augustuscaesar8287 3 жыл бұрын
@@kmaher1424 yeah, what those genetic studies confirm is that Aryan peoples mixed with the native population, Western Hunter Gatherers. That WHG's had blue eyes and slightly darker skin (think Cheddar man) and Aryans originally had Brown to Grey eyes (which is why ethnic Aryans have Green to Blue eyes) with blonde or red hair.
@tylerdurden3722
@tylerdurden3722 3 жыл бұрын
Not entirely replaced. Less than 50%, genetically.
@tylerdurden3722
@tylerdurden3722 3 жыл бұрын
@@augustuscaesar8287 the group that later refered to themselves as Aryans, is not the same group as the Yamnaya. They're a later group also descended from the Yamnaya, but a seperate group from those who went west...this group went east, after having split long before.
@ceoofthebaseddepartment4979
@ceoofthebaseddepartment4979 3 жыл бұрын
Aryan was used to refer to Sanskrit speaking upper-caste Hindu and Buddhists in India There certainly was some ethnic implications however later the term was used to imply Indianized people as civilized as opposed to Mlecchas the barbarians
@ceoofthebaseddepartment4979
@ceoofthebaseddepartment4979 3 жыл бұрын
@Khushal mithra Ofcourse it does Only the twice born sacred thread wearing dwijas were considered Aryans
@ceoofthebaseddepartment4979
@ceoofthebaseddepartment4979 3 жыл бұрын
@Khushal mithra Who said Indus valley was Dravidian ? Dravidian itself is a mixed community of Indian hunter gathereres and Iranian farmers
@tamjansan1154
@tamjansan1154 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't Buddha have blue eyes ?
@ceoofthebaseddepartment4979
@ceoofthebaseddepartment4979 3 жыл бұрын
@@tamjansan1154 There is no evidence for that and its unlikely But its not impossible since blue and green eyes are not uncommon in India Green is however more present more than blue
@tamjansan1154
@tamjansan1154 3 жыл бұрын
@@ceoofthebaseddepartment4979 Old Buddist script ( Pali Canon) say that one of his physical characteristics are blue eyes. He is depicted with blue eyes on many occasions.Besides there is no physical evidence for 80% of scientific and historic theories but they are presented as truth in schools and media.
@TheMAHoGOL
@TheMAHoGOL 3 жыл бұрын
Indo-European aren't Aryan but Aryan peaple are Indo-European. Aryan or Arya/Aria(Iranain version) is self identity and nationality of Iranian peaple. Iran/Eran=ir/er+an (plural suffix) Aniran( a persian word )means non- Iranian(non-arya ).this word used for other non- iranian people included Greek,Roman,turk,Arab... Even ancient Europeans didn't self identify themselves as arya/aria or aryan, eg, greek. Herodotus wrote: Persian people self identified as aria/aryan and also others identified persian as aria /arya peaple. He was greek and he didn't use aria/arya for greek or other European.
@scienceseekerresearcher6130
@scienceseekerresearcher6130 2 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure arya/aryan is mentioned atleast a million times in ancient vedic hindu texts... I think iranians stole from indians
@asmirann3636
@asmirann3636 2 жыл бұрын
@@scienceseekerresearcher6130 Of course. Iranians came later than Indians. They use the word Arya but don't know it's meaning. Only Indians know it's true meaning. It is not a race, it never was. It is a quality. But Iranians don't know it, just as Germans, because these people stole the word and then reinterpret it to make it something else.
@scienceseekerresearcher6130
@scienceseekerresearcher6130 2 жыл бұрын
@@asmirann3636 So True....
@mahipalcharan6690
@mahipalcharan6690 2 жыл бұрын
@@asmirann3636 Iranian word Ariya not Aarya . Iranian word Ariya come Arrattas Empire of iran Parthian indian Kshatriyas kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2itqZWVns2Frqc 🤔👈
@mahipalcharan6690
@mahipalcharan6690 2 жыл бұрын
@@asmirann3636 kavian dynasty Founder king Kavi Khusad Forefathers King Kavi Chayman Parthava Parthian in Rigveda defeated by BHARATRaja Sudas. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpbbmmmAnreYps0 👈🤔
@alejandromadrid8075
@alejandromadrid8075 3 жыл бұрын
History is being re-written to accomodate American Imperial Ideology of egalitarianism. Aryan meant both "noble" and ethnicity. Its preposterous to believe the learned British were racist but the war like ancient Aryans were color blind Americans, that somehow paradoxically established the caste system. Indians, up to this day, are very ethnocentric and racist. When it is pointed out that the narratives of history are established to serve political objectives the present is no exception, and in the present, it is American ideology that is dominant. Thank America too, for flooding Europe with immigrants, under the cover of UN refugee programs.
@trollarasan
@trollarasan 2 жыл бұрын
Here comes the white supremacist who claims himself as aryan aka indian and persian. Any Indian opposing this colonial bs becomes rucist LOL.
@MrResearcher122
@MrResearcher122 2 жыл бұрын
Good point. One need not be an Indologist to notice India's stratification is based on color, and this system has roots in Vedic times, pointing to Aryan hostility to darker skin peoples. No amount of diversity celebration can really, as it were, ignore the Elephant in the room. We have gone full circle: from the British attempts to justify it, to modern attempts to deny it.
@trollarasan
@trollarasan 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrResearcher122 That stratification was created by Europeans aka brits. Roots in Vedic times? yeah you people have been trying to put the blame on indian people for ever. Which you people failed to prove.
@deanticocombar7529
@deanticocombar7529 Жыл бұрын
Yes Aryan migration was truth nobody should deny that
@alejandromadrid8075
@alejandromadrid8075 Жыл бұрын
@@MrResearcher122 wow,
@rossmelnyk1900
@rossmelnyk1900 3 жыл бұрын
I'm very disappointed in author of this video. He's definatly trying to be as politically correct as possible....shame.
@VikingMuayThai
@VikingMuayThai 3 жыл бұрын
Completely missing the fact that OTHER ÆRYAN groups spread to the north 🤦‍♂️
@AGPArchivist
@AGPArchivist 2 жыл бұрын
@@VikingMuayThai WE WUZ KANGS N SHEEYIT, DEM ARYANS WUZ WYTE
@velu1671
@velu1671 3 жыл бұрын
Tamilnadu, Andra,karnataka, keralla, and orisa have more archeological structural remains to excavation. Tamilnadu found another archeological mount that dated back 3400 old.and goes on and on.another 150 archeological mounts needed to be excavation. Most probably megalithic sites 15000 years old sites.needed to be excavate,one of those one kilometer long caste in pottpannaikottai.
@rebelxyz2077
@rebelxyz2077 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a proud indo-aryan Hindu following Aryan religion Hinduism and praying in Aryan language Sanskrit hymns. 🙂🙂🙂🙂
@rebelxyz2077
@rebelxyz2077 2 жыл бұрын
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 then what it is?
@rebelxyz2077
@rebelxyz2077 2 жыл бұрын
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 Hinduism is worlds first religion. Our Indian word for religion is 'Dharma'. Actual name of Hinduism is 'sanatana dharma'.
@rebelxyz2077
@rebelxyz2077 2 жыл бұрын
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 you are funny😁
@rebelxyz2077
@rebelxyz2077 2 жыл бұрын
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 you better go to nityananda island and preach your stupid ideology there😁😁
@IamAskingWhy
@IamAskingWhy 2 жыл бұрын
@@rebelxyz2077 the literal meaning for "Dharma" is Duty". Hinduism is not a religion it's Dharma. The literal meaning for "Religion" in sanskrit or Hindi is "Pant".
@sumant1654
@sumant1654 2 жыл бұрын
There is no reference to Saraswati River which may have caused the abandonment of big cities because of its drying up... Rakhigarhi is a site of an ancient city presently in the state of Haryana in India , doesn't lie on the indus or Sindhu river and hence role of the Saraswati River is to be studied further
@theCosmicQueen
@theCosmicQueen 2 жыл бұрын
this video guy is just a guy out there, not a true expert or anything like that. just has strong opinions and does some reading and puts out opinions. rather obviously.
@velamuranand8356
@velamuranand8356 Жыл бұрын
Saraswathi is not present-day Indus or ghagra or hajra. It is Helmand in Afghanistan . Something Hindutva types are loath to accept
@aryamansaxena4613
@aryamansaxena4613 Жыл бұрын
​@@velamuranand8356the description doesn't match with what was written in the Vedas. Saraswati river was said to be massive and drain in the ocean. The river of Afghanistan doesn't match any of the description.
@hit3894
@hit3894 10 ай бұрын
@velamuranand8356 afghanistan was a part of india anyway
@teamedward6213
@teamedward6213 Ай бұрын
​@velamuranand8356 no there is scientific evidence that saraswati existed in india and evidence is collected by isro,asi. They used palaechannels,radiocarbon dating,radiometric ages, presence of white mica etc. Seriously google it as I would not be able to explain everything here. The evidence that saraswati existed was discovered by isro while they were mapping Indian surface. So Seriously no so called hindutva agenda involve just pure science but if u refuse to accept scientific evidence well that's on you.
@tcharessemaatgaines3927
@tcharessemaatgaines3927 3 жыл бұрын
Ok did I miss the part that states or showed the origins of the word?
@Kalleosini
@Kalleosini 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you did. "Noble" in sanscrit and persian.
@Kalleosini
@Kalleosini 3 жыл бұрын
@Jon Dau you sure said a whole lot of stuff. so here's where you're wrong: Aryan means noble, not in the sense that "it was a word intended as the persian version of french word" but in the sense that "we see this word in persian and use a word we know of you describe it" they have a similar meaning but originated separately. in simple maths terms it would mean "Aryan = Noble" is incorrect. "Aryan ~ Noble" is correct.
@tcharessemaatgaines3927
@tcharessemaatgaines3927 3 жыл бұрын
None of the responses answered my question if it's from Persia and written in sanskrit then Persia is not the origin sanskrit is older then Persia
@Kalleosini
@Kalleosini 3 жыл бұрын
@@tcharessemaatgaines3927 jesus christ read the video description it is very clear
@tcharessemaatgaines3927
@tcharessemaatgaines3927 3 жыл бұрын
So some mysterious people from central Asia is the only explanation they got? Not good enough sounds like smoke and mirrors to me origins please mysterious people is not an answer if you are going to call it origins. PERIOD
@majonzainjegame6636
@majonzainjegame6636 3 жыл бұрын
Now I understand when it is said "Knowledge shall increase in the last days" Thanks to this technology. There is no going back.
@navidvarzeghani2789
@navidvarzeghani2789 3 жыл бұрын
That "knowledge" doesn't work in your favor.......you guys got everything wrong.
@musaka2022
@musaka2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@navidvarzeghani2789 Who are "you guys" Navid?
@navidvarzeghani2789
@navidvarzeghani2789 3 жыл бұрын
@@musaka2022 haha.....you would want me to say huhn? Count one and one together, i trust that you are more than capable of that.
@musaka2022
@musaka2022 3 жыл бұрын
@@navidvarzeghani2789 Should have expected a weird answer from an Iranian
@perozparsa5561
@perozparsa5561 2 жыл бұрын
@@navidvarzeghani2789 haha.....
@sidjoosin6549
@sidjoosin6549 3 жыл бұрын
European scientists in 18-19c. concluded that people of Caucasus mountains are most pure, strong and beautiful race of people, so white race probably originated there. So white race was called Caucasian. Ironically people of Caucasus also distinguished not only by race but as only non-Aryan ethnicities in huge Indo-European ocean, between Slavs and Iranians
@venom6885
@venom6885 3 жыл бұрын
Caucazian is most beatiful and inteligent peoples in Earth
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 2 жыл бұрын
It had nothing to do with purity or beauty. They were obsessed with skull shapes and found that the skull shape they most closely identified with the white race was that most typified by people living in the Caucasus region. Of course today we understand that that is pure nonsense.
@sidjoosin6549
@sidjoosin6549 2 жыл бұрын
@@brucetucker4847 The Caucasus as the origin of humanity and the peak of beauty In the eighteenth century, the prevalent view among European scholars was that the human species had its origin in the region of the Caucasus Mountains.[22] This view was based upon the Caucasus being the location for the purported landing point of Noah's Ark - from whom the Bible states that humanity is descended - and the location for the suffering of Prometheus, who in Hesiod's myth had crafted humankind from clay.[22] In addition, the most beautiful humans were reputed by Europeans to be the stereotypical "Circassian beauties" and the Georgian people; both Georgia and Circassia are in the Caucasus region.[23][22] The "Circassian beauty" stereotype had its roots in the Middle Ages, while the reputation for the attractiveness of the Georgian people was developed by early modern travellers to the region such as Jean Chardin.[22][24] Christoph Meiners' 1785 treatise The Outline of History of Mankind was the first work to use the term Caucasian (Kaukasisch) in its wider racial sense. (click on image for English translation of the text) The term Caucasian as a racial category was first introduced in the 1780s by members of the Göttingen School of History - notably Christoph Meiners in 1785 and Johann Friedrich Blumenbach in 1795-it had originally referred in a narrow sense to the native inhabitants of the Caucasus region.[25] In his The Outline of History of Mankind (1785), the German philosopher Christoph Meiners first used the concept of a "Caucasian" (Kaukasisch) race in its wider racial sense. Meiners' term was given wider circulation in the 1790s by many people. Meiners imagined that the Caucasian race encompassed all of the ancient and most of the modern native populations of Europe, the aboriginal inhabitants of West Asia (including the Phoenicians, Hebrews and Arabs), the autochthones of Northern Africa (Berbers, Egyptians, Abyssinians and neighboring groups), the Indians, and the ancient Guanches.[36] It was Johann Friedrich Blumenbach, a colleague of Meiners', who later came to be considered one of the founders of the discipline of anthropology, who gave the term a wider audience, by grounding it in the new methods of craniometry and Linnean taxonomy.[37] Blumenbach did not credit Meiners with his taxonomy, although his justification clearly points to Meiners' aesthetic viewpoint of Caucasus origins.[38] In contrast to Meiners, however, Blumenbach was a monogenist-he considered all humans to have a shared origin and to be a single species. Blumenbach, like Meiners, did rank his Caucasian grouping higher than other groups in terms of mental faculties or potential for achievement[37] despite pointing out that the transition from one race to another is so gradual that the distinctions between the races presented by him are "very arbitrary". ----------------- I think it is clear that my words "they thought so.. " is backed by their (leading racologists of time) own words (NOT mine - it would be arrogant)
@TheB657
@TheB657 Жыл бұрын
European scientists - rather *colonial scientists* did everything to please their masters and twisted entire world history. Now that Out of India theory among others backed by science are coming out, academia has already started accepting every other probability there is and come to a distinguished conclusion through proper evidence, research, discussions and debates. *All this they do now by first learning ancient languages - going to the subcontinent, dwelling deep into the works of the ancient world, archaeological sites, pottery etc. and then come to a conclusion which colonial historians were extremely feeble at (not generalizing but in plural).*
@stormshadow5283
@stormshadow5283 2 жыл бұрын
It is always funny to me when Europeans claim that they are "Aryans". Secondly, Iranians specifically "Persians" or "Parsa" called themselves "Airya" since they believed their religion Zoroastrianism, a corruption of the original Vedic religion was "Aryan". Medes never called themselves as Aryans, neither did Sogdians or Parthians. Only Persians did. So, it was not an ethnic term. In sanskrit, Europeans are considered as mlecchas or ritually impure and not Arya. So, I always find it funny when the former claim such Arya status as Savarna Hindus. The Greeks and Romans generally referred to as "Yavanas" fell under the category of mlecchas. Interestingly enough, while the Iranians called themselves "Airya", in Sanskrit records Parasikas or Persians along with Valhika or Bactrian were also lobbed with mlecchas or people who were ritually impure.
@loney403
@loney403 2 жыл бұрын
True but I think that the word mleccha mainly has to do with religion, not ethnicity... At some point in time, only those who subscribed to the Vedic religious ideas might be considered to be pure by the "Indo-Aryan" and all others Mleccha (People to the north-west who were mainly Greek/Persians who didn't follow the Vedic religion), Dasa (Some Iranian/Indian tribes who were against Vedic thoughts) etc.
@baldevsidhu7719
@baldevsidhu7719 3 ай бұрын
Sanskrit came to India from Mesopotamia ( research published by The Indian Express and The Scroll . I saw a Banaras Hindu university scholar reading from Rig Veda ( Horses were not indigenous to India …so weren’t the Vedas. ) see BBC / PBS series by Historian Michael Wood. The Story of India part 1 available on KZbin. Now these are the words of the Indian scholar not a Westerner. Btw you can’t dispute DNA study done by Harvard university prof in collaboration with 92 scholars from different fields. Genetics, history, anthropology, archaeology, etc. 4 of these are from Banaras university
@Watch-r3w
@Watch-r3w 2 ай бұрын
The closest languages to original Sanskrit are those of the Slavic (European) people's there are some videos on KZbin showing an Indian Sanskrit scholar and A Lithuanian person proving this ❤
@ryanciantar
@ryanciantar 2 ай бұрын
Europeans are Aryans, they are descendants of the Indo-Aryan people's from Scythia/Caucasus region, this includes both similar Celtic and Germanic lines, their languages are also an extension of Aryan. While the original Persians, including all of the Achaemenid kings, were light skinned Aryans. Persians became darker over time, mixing with peoples they defeated in battle, and further mixing out of their Aryan roots with the Arab conquest of Persia. Modern day, light skinned Iranians are more related to the original Persians and had less mixing with Arabs.
@Watch-r3w
@Watch-r3w 2 ай бұрын
@@ryanciantar Iran is translated as land of the Aryans, true Aryans in Vedic culture are not of any particular skin colour but are called so because of their greatness, the oldest R1 DNA is found in Siberia dated to 24 thousand years ago and is physically represented as being of Ulguric-mongoloid admixture.
@mehryaarvid
@mehryaarvid 3 жыл бұрын
How do you consolidate your proposals with the kurgan theory? And same step nomads spreading to Europe??
@tewekdenahom485
@tewekdenahom485 3 жыл бұрын
Those theories aren't legit
@mehryaarvid
@mehryaarvid 3 жыл бұрын
@@EresirThe1st send me the link to the scientific papers please!
@mehryaarvid
@mehryaarvid 3 жыл бұрын
@@EresirThe1st I don’t check KZbin for history! I read scientific papers!
@mehryaarvid
@mehryaarvid 3 жыл бұрын
@@EresirThe1st the links do not answer any real question, you cherry!
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 2 жыл бұрын
Kurgan theory is deprecated.
@peebhat
@peebhat Жыл бұрын
This is a very well made presentation on the subject. Thank you. The illustrations used to show Harappan civilisation were impressive. Can you please mention the sources of these illustrations ? I want to read further on them. Thank you.
@TheB657
@TheB657 2 жыл бұрын
*Aryan meant "Noble" in Sanskrutam/ Sanskrit - All Humans whom were highly moral, simple, had jnyana (knowledge and wisdom) and walked the right path throughout her/his life that became beneficial for all was called an "Arya" or "Arya Purush".* As per Sanatana Dharmik scriptures there is *no rigid class system and people could align themselves to their professions as they liked and hence called "Varnashrama Dharma" - Varna - Ashrama - Dharma -> Duty as per job or leaning in material life. Moreover the Brahmins/Brahmanas were supposed to live extremely simple (basically destitute), ought to perform prayers for oneself and society and provide free education. Kshatriyas were spiritually enhanced to the level they used to "protect Dharma" , Vaishyas (Merchant/Business class) providing employment opportunities and Shudras were "Service men/women" - Those whom served or worked just like Engineers, Skilled workers, Architects, Designers, Manufacturers etc. These virtues and values were practiced throughout till the 17th - 18th Centuries (pre - colonial era) during the final periods of the Mughal Empire in India. This fact is attested by the Mughals themselves in their Book : *Fatawa - E - Alamgiri* written by Naqshbandi scholars on the lives and culture of Indian society in Aurangzeb's period (pre - Maratha era).* The description is very clear. Hence there was economical disparity based differences in social status for over the period of colonial rule as this book of the Mughals was used by the then colonials to target the social fabric of the country with a motive to bend it to their own will. For the most part the colonial experiment was successful and till date Indians identify more with the west than with their culture and themselves.
@eraofrage
@eraofrage 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! they called themselves noble persons
@lordvonmanor6915
@lordvonmanor6915 2 жыл бұрын
You are re-sighting New English History. Aryan, Nword, Indiër, Multiracial, Mohren, Aboriginals... Are the same damn words.
@TheB657
@TheB657 Жыл бұрын
@@lordvonmanor6915 Nothing has been "re - sighted" and West cannot write the history of the world. This is the mistake your ancestors had done and your contemporaries continue to do. In case you are a scholar in Sanskrit (which I assume you are not), one would understand that the word "Arya" has been used to mention a noble man be it a carpenter, sculptor, ship builder etc. Unfortunately your academia is so drunk with it's own definitions and pre - conceived notions damn it that you feel yourself to possess a superior authority over Sanskrit texts without having even gotten a degree lest kept knowledge of a word in Sanskrit. Twisted people peddling to be "scholars" all around. By the way read the research papers of Israeli researcher like Dr. David Dean Schulman among others and you will understand *how many misunderstandings have been caused due to mistranslations into the English text.* Simply don't keep whining "English English British British..." *The sun sat on the British empire almost a century back - wake up and grow up.
@lordvonmanor6915
@lordvonmanor6915 Жыл бұрын
@@TheB657 The only people saying that is North Amerikans. All you have to do is open a Indo Dictionary in any Indo language including Sanskrit and you'll see it means Vegetarian. Warm regards
@lordvonmanor6915
@lordvonmanor6915 Жыл бұрын
@@TheB657 Yeah and the West told you the word Black means People of Afrikan descent when fact is it comes from the word Svartr and is a reference to domesticated NWords of Negerij Tabahan. English is a Indo language based on Low Holländisch-Deutsch. You should learn it and stop making up word definitions. Stop making up definitions!
@ronbdallas
@ronbdallas 10 ай бұрын
Could you just drop the “CE” after every date…I’m sure I can tell from the photos we aren’t talking ancient history🙄
@profrajeshmaurya5078
@profrajeshmaurya5078 3 жыл бұрын
Dr BB Lal who was most important archeologist of Indus Valley civilization concluded that Indus Valley civilization is Vedic civilization.
@khosrowanushirwan7591
@khosrowanushirwan7591 2 жыл бұрын
Please provide his paper work
@profrajeshmaurya5078
@profrajeshmaurya5078 2 жыл бұрын
Read his Book Who were the Vedic people?
@FoxDeadly
@FoxDeadly 2 жыл бұрын
There is no doubt
@chutenderchodi7369
@chutenderchodi7369 2 жыл бұрын
@@profrajeshmaurya5078 ..... indian historians are notorious for cooking bogus stories. The language and religion of IVC people has no correlation with vedic Hinduism
@sachinpotdar7798
@sachinpotdar7798 5 ай бұрын
Vedic civilization was from uttrakhand Himalayas to ganga yamuna
@yishislassieswaiting4748
@yishislassieswaiting4748 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this information in such a lovely pictorial presentation.
@johnwagnon4982
@johnwagnon4982 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like your political correctness has prejudiced your views of the Aryan migration into northern India. Recent DNA studies/evidence confirms it.
@Sheeler-Bey
@Sheeler-Bey 11 ай бұрын
Why no mention of Helena Blavatsky? Why no mention of the astrological term Arien?
@RatgenerationX
@RatgenerationX 11 ай бұрын
What do you mean?
@Sheeler-Bey
@Sheeler-Bey 11 ай бұрын
@@RatgenerationX Hitler fallowed Blavatskys' ideology and mythology. And Arian is the term used for people born under the sign of Aries.
@henrikrolfsen584
@henrikrolfsen584 2 жыл бұрын
A visit today, to modern Iran, will show you, that the population is sharply divided into two cultural groups: One which bare all the physical attributes of Central Europeans, and the other, which shares physical attributes more with the populations in Pakistan, and India. Afghans are no different: Those who's ethnic heritage is from Iran, Tajikistan, Bactria, and Uzbekistan, are of lighter complexion, and bare a different culture. The Afgan-Pashtu of the South-East, are of a darker race, and bare the deeply religious cultures, customs, and mentality of their Pashtu cousins of Pakistan.
@qtt8122
@qtt8122 2 жыл бұрын
Uzbeks are a Turkic race they very differwnt than other Afghan races and Tajiks and Pashtuns are genetic cousins who look similar only difference is their language and culture and only the Pashtuns in Pakistan share similarity with the Afghan Pashtuns while the other Pakistani ethnic groups share no similarity.
@parjanyashukla176
@parjanyashukla176 Жыл бұрын
Aryans were Pashtun in origin, and they spoke fluent Rigvedic.
@ArrowBast
@ArrowBast Жыл бұрын
@@parjanyashukla176 Pashtoon and Hindko are very close to Vedic sanskrit ( if you remove islamist corruption )
@Tea-oz4iy
@Tea-oz4iy 11 ай бұрын
​@@parjanyashukla176NOPE PASHTUNS ARE IRANIC MIXED WITH INDO-ARYANS WHEN THEY BECAME BUDDHIST
@dysprosiumdead5078
@dysprosiumdead5078 9 ай бұрын
Then you've probably dreamt of visiting it lol. Or maybe too childish to see the reality
@stanley9392
@stanley9392 Жыл бұрын
Love indians so much from Persia ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@DJ_jadli
@DJ_jadli 9 ай бұрын
Love you too bro
@DJ_jadli
@DJ_jadli 9 ай бұрын
From india
@benjamindsouza6736
@benjamindsouza6736 7 ай бұрын
🙏🤍🙏from Goa, India!
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc
@user-k4d-e59mo28oc 5 ай бұрын
The original Aryans came from India, and conquered Iran.
@komi9261
@komi9261 4 ай бұрын
@@user-k4d-e59mo28oc they're now under the dust, people like you that say your ancestors invaded someone else's land don't even have anything they can be proud of in their life so they are proud of some dead grandparents. Take this arabic poem: "It is not the brave young man that says "My dad did!" it is the brave young man that says "I did!""
@alorikkoln
@alorikkoln 3 жыл бұрын
At first I might agree, if it wasn't for knowing and understanding historical patterns. The Turks and the Mongols that arrived during the Middle Ages conquered Central Asia and India. They conquered each other in East Asia, pushing each other. So why would the Arians not have done the same, if that is the logical historical pattern? I disagree with you, because what you say is not logical, but rather sounds politically correct. Not historically sound.
@FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime
@FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime 3 жыл бұрын
That's correct- and this happened _all over_ . Egypt is *another* good example- at various times it's been conquered by Southern Europeans, Greeks, Central/Northern Europeans, Arabs, Romans, Persians, (and even more ancient Hittites and Hyksos). India, for itself, has kind of a peculiar geography, so that no big world empires ever came out of India, however India is geographically amenable to being conquered. From 10,000 BC and even before then, the history of the world is a history of people going to and conquering other places. Even when it was the tribe across the valley, if they had more grain in their silo, "let's go attack them and kill them and take their grain".
@Wolfpaw754
@Wolfpaw754 3 жыл бұрын
you should check out robert sepehr, he has it right when it comes to aryans without the politicaly correct bs
@FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime
@FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime 3 жыл бұрын
@@दीपकनागर-थ5छ Yes, only South Indian Dravidian "archaeology" rejects it.
@FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime
@FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime 3 жыл бұрын
@@दीपकनागर-थ5छ So becoz some South Hindu said it's not true, it isn't??
@Bryan09876
@Bryan09876 3 жыл бұрын
Is this “historian” too political?
@NotAvailable_na
@NotAvailable_na 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this. There was so much information in this video. Very compact. Connected a lot of dots. Thanks again.
@kunalbadade7815
@kunalbadade7815 3 жыл бұрын
Vedic Civilization is blend of sinauli civilization and Indus valley (Sindhu Saraswati Civilization). Sinuali civilization is contemporary of Indus valley ! Founding of Pashupati nath seal with Yogic pose and symbols like swastik in indus valley civilization suggests that Vedic civilization is nothing but continuation of indus valley civilization with mix of Sinuali civilization ! And one more thing no Indian Nationalist supports Aryan theory (other than tilak also tilak version of aryan theory is different read his artic home in vedas) Swami vivekanand also rejected aryan theory.Show me at least 7-8 Indian nationalist (or Hindu nationalist as you trying to depict) supporting Aryan theory other wise don't give false knowledge without evidences !
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 2 жыл бұрын
And that nationalist mythology is just as silly and irrelevant as 19th century European nationalist and racist mythology.
@StaminatorBlader
@StaminatorBlader 2 жыл бұрын
the aryan settlers pretty clearly subjugated the people and were distinct in appearence and the colorism in india is deeply engrained in the caste system to this day so i dont see how its not ethnic or racial. that claim seems politically motivated.
@StaminatorBlader
@StaminatorBlader 2 жыл бұрын
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 my understanding isnt complete enough to coherently explain why youre wrong i typed a reply that got pretty messy. either way its sad to me that indians seem to choose nationalism and anti colonial sentiment over reason and science when it comes to this. "we dont like you guys so we now change history" is a rather pathic act of revenge.
@StaminatorBlader
@StaminatorBlader Жыл бұрын
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 im willing to accept any theory thats widely acclaimed by the scientific community and i do my best to understand genetics though youre right i dont understand it very deeply. in my original post i am asking a question to better understand however i was met by indian centric theories that seem to generally be disregarded. any type of agenda is always misplaced in science.
@Dorkeydaze
@Dorkeydaze Жыл бұрын
Well it was a moral caste system which was initially ruled by lighter people though it started off religiously than through time did it become a racial caste system
@StaminatorBlader
@StaminatorBlader Жыл бұрын
@@Dorkeydaze the lighter people were the descendants of aryans who always thought themselves superior and thus were the ruling castes thats racist from the start
@DJ_jadli
@DJ_jadli 9 ай бұрын
​@@StaminatorBladerstop projecting your racist theories on us. Caste system was originally based on ones action(karma) and gunas(quality). And this sort of hierarchy is common in indo european cultures. Later on , it became hierarchal. Has nothing to do with skin color. And viewing everything on the basis of skin color, misses the point completely. For reference read, purusha suktam of the rigveda.
@matheusburger6322
@matheusburger6322 3 жыл бұрын
Who does not love Wagner? One must be deaf to not admire this absolute genius.
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 2 жыл бұрын
@CHR1ST0N1A 5 Nietzsche loved Wagner until Parsifal.
@anthonynicholson5523
@anthonynicholson5523 2 жыл бұрын
I love you listen to Wagner while I imagine Hitler killing himself and his hideous family
@richardcaulker1017
@richardcaulker1017 2 жыл бұрын
That's like loving a woman based solely on the sound of her voice on the radio.
@traqueliacooper5132
@traqueliacooper5132 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely am burning my stomach muscles from your history on them largely due to my ignorance believing they qere as ancient Egypt, babylon or something and to learn from 1 of the most hilarious yet truly honest historians I've ran across yet
@jackjones9460
@jackjones9460 2 жыл бұрын
By the time any group had invented writing they each knew metallurgy, animal breeding, farming architecture and all had an incredible record of the movements of the planets, stars & repeating events like what we know as Halley’s Comet. They weren’t anything like “primitive”.
@shahram4572
@shahram4572 3 жыл бұрын
No indo european❌ no erupean❌ I am is arian✔ I am is asian✔ I am hendo iranian✔.
@khashayar8989
@khashayar8989 9 ай бұрын
Not Hendo Indo Aryan You ain't an Aryan Just because you Persian Aryan is a race Most Persians aren't Aryans neither white
@Seerispure
@Seerispure 3 ай бұрын
​@@khashayar8989 you are using a hindu/ Persian word yet now 😂 aryan originated from Sanskrit rigveda which mentioned yavan as anarya Non-aryan 😂 you can't disprove it until you are using aryan word, tell me any European which is more older Sanskrit 😂 which use Arya😂 want to become so called aryan but don't want to believe on Aryan origin culture 😂 you are malecha anarya
@Arjun-lg9fm
@Arjun-lg9fm 2 жыл бұрын
Once Indus valley script is deciphered, we'd be able to tell for certain what happened. Until then it's just speculation, some more probable than others.
@jinsabapathi6688
@jinsabapathi6688 6 ай бұрын
True this is the best theory on here. Everything else is just ppl fighting for their side their affiliation
@jasonmccallop6605
@jasonmccallop6605 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just here for the comments
@JP-mn5iv
@JP-mn5iv Жыл бұрын
I just wanna say that I’m Norwegian and German and I’m very happy to see someone clearing up the ignorance and confusion. Thank you.
@jolieInc.
@jolieInc. 3 жыл бұрын
ITS HYPOCRITICAL TO DISCOUNT THE RACIST SUBSTITUTION OF THE ARYANS, WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY ASSIGNING EGYPTIAN AS NON-BLACK.
@SI-cd7xs
@SI-cd7xs 3 жыл бұрын
Egyptians hated and subjugated black Nubians.
@noelc.8830
@noelc.8830 3 жыл бұрын
Was looking forward to an insightful doc on the history and development of the subcontinent, instead what I got was a sophmoric lecture, (parental kind), about how I shouldn't confuse " Aryan" with "white supremacists," when talking about south Asia....yeah no shit, thanks for the waste of time.
@noelc.8830
@noelc.8830 3 жыл бұрын
@ABHISHEK RAJU I have no issues with any theories of any variety as long as they're plausible, my issue with the video is that it spends 3/4 of the time telling us that Aryans are not the same as German Nazis which anyone with half-a-brain knows. It's false advertising and the video should have been entitled, "Why you shouldn't confuse Aryan with white supremacists."
@noelc.8830
@noelc.8830 3 жыл бұрын
@ABHISHEK RAJU Thanks, I will also keep in mind that this is an issue that people feel strongly about
@suzandouglass5241
@suzandouglass5241 3 жыл бұрын
a LOT of people need to hear that though.
@navidvarzeghani2789
@navidvarzeghani2789 3 жыл бұрын
@@suzandouglass5241 go sip your Starbucks coffee Suzan and keep your nose out of things you will never be able to compute.
@navidvarzeghani2789
@navidvarzeghani2789 3 жыл бұрын
@@suzandouglass5241 it's not even worth debating someone like you.
@perretti
@perretti 2 жыл бұрын
2:00 minutes in and there’s already a few in accuracies. A little more and this video is not about origins but about racism, not Aryans and does nothing to shed light on history. When saying myth, it’s clear this a political video, not a historical video of origins. It’s all about twentieth century racist theory.
@simonheit8025
@simonheit8025 3 ай бұрын
what a stupid observations. Of course he’s going to clarify the misinterpretations and racist approach do pseudo-intellectuals that tried to steal history that wasn’t theirs
@carolgebert7833
@carolgebert7833 2 жыл бұрын
I think the latest theory for the Harappan decline was earthquake that changed the course of the Sindhu river. The river dried up, with water diverted to the Ganges and Indus. That is why the Ganges is the holy river. It was the river that was enhanced/created when the Sindhu died. It gave the people life who thought they had lost everything.
@carolgebert7833
@carolgebert7833 2 жыл бұрын
@Khushal Singh Maurya I think the Saraswati and the Shindu are the same (extinct) river.
@nidsnow
@nidsnow 2 жыл бұрын
Saraswati river is the one that disappeared from human vision .. It said to hav gone underground after an earthquake .. created a horrible drought ... Ganges is a man made canal of water brought down after connecting multiple Himalayan water channels .. brain child of ancient king Bhagiratha
@gvk3385
@gvk3385 2 жыл бұрын
That's not Sindhu.. that's saraswathi.. Recent findings suggests it dried up 4000-4500 years ago. but in Vedas it was mentioned."saraswathi river is flowing full fledge".
@oldsunshine1505
@oldsunshine1505 2 жыл бұрын
As somebody who has in-depth and scholarly knowledge of this subject, I take my hat off to the producers of this video for its very high quality of contents- simply not just one of, but the best presentation of the subject so admirably condensed into such a short time of the video. Thank you and very well done!
@jasrajsandhu1658
@jasrajsandhu1658 2 жыл бұрын
Indo iranians were nordic looking
@azeeramon
@azeeramon Жыл бұрын
​@@jasrajsandhu1658 the relics don't say so
@jasrajsandhu1658
@jasrajsandhu1658 Жыл бұрын
@@azeeramon what relics? The sanskreeet? I am using raw genetics to say that they looked nordic, their genetic composition was entirely identical to northern europeans and they had a drift that went in the nw euro cline
@azeeramon
@azeeramon Жыл бұрын
@@jasrajsandhu1658 ancient texts, artifacts and paintings from modern day iran and Afghanistan. Genes? who gave you the samples? 💀 Where did you get them? And how do you know who they were and what they called themselves? Did they talk back?
@jasrajsandhu1658
@jasrajsandhu1658 Жыл бұрын
@@azeeramon got them from g25 vahaduo, you don't know what that is because you have to rely on "artifact" for your own information, LMAO, also look up the new science artical regarding the fatyanovo, hahahahahahahaha they are literally grouped with modern northern europeans hahahahahahahahah
@ZeroBoostBuick
@ZeroBoostBuick 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting how "ARIA" was part of a war / drum chant with many of the the West Slavic tribes between the 6th and 13th century. So is it a coincidence the Polish and Sorb (East German Slavic) DNA is the closest to the Northern Hindustan DNA ???
@epwlod777
@epwlod777 3 жыл бұрын
Well obviously your a bigot for questioning the 'facts' given. Whites were backwater non migrating heathens whom just claim connection and are wrong..... This video is farcical at best. Some of the 9ldest Egyptian pharaohs had red hair still preserved and blue eyes genes but that waycist
@saitren565
@saitren565 3 жыл бұрын
No it is no coincidence. It is a well established fact (through the study of ancient DNA) that the Corded Ware culture of northern Germany, Poland, the baltic region, Bielorussia and western parts of Russia/Ukraine was the origin of the populations who later became the Indo-Iranians. The Indo-Iranians are not direct descendants of the step populations who were the founders of the Corded Ware culture (Yamnaya). Instead, the step population pendulum first swung west (Yamnaya -> Corded Ware) and only then it swung back from there (with new DNA admixture acquired in the West - in particular Western Hunter Gatherer DNA - in the baggage).
@navidvarzeghani2789
@navidvarzeghani2789 3 жыл бұрын
@@epwlod777 and we are the racists here? Man your an history and culture thieving man or woman with no self awareness whatsoever.......go learn about your own culture and history which most of you describe as "rich", if it's rich i don't see any reasons as too why you guys would want to steal my People's history...... Is it political maybe?
@epwlod777
@epwlod777 3 жыл бұрын
@@navidvarzeghani2789 lolololol and what exactly should I learn? Do you know your history? Muhammad? Didn't he have red hair? Oh well inconvenient facts I guess. People like you love to ignore the genetic histories. North Africa and much of the near east was not of the same stock as it is now.. Sub-saharan Migrations have drastically altered the original inhabitants into what is there today. But again. Inconvenient facts.. Can't have them fucking up your racism
@navidvarzeghani2789
@navidvarzeghani2789 3 жыл бұрын
@@epwlod777 they did nothing like that and we Persians mostly kept to our selves only exception being the sumer which we had a very close relationship to. Don't try to teach me my own history, we study and learn it as soon as we are able to speak haha......but it's true that our armies enlisted them and also gave them freelance jobs in and we appreciated their performances (somethings never change it seems)
@ashog1426
@ashog1426 3 жыл бұрын
I am an Aryan I have colored eyes and blonde hair and was born in Armenia more earlier Anatolia
@cynthiagonzales9131
@cynthiagonzales9131 3 жыл бұрын
Same with the Spaniards. I have cousins from Spain with blue eyes or green. Bet you have nice eyes..Its all mixed blood and how you interpret things..
@saratmodugu2721
@saratmodugu2721 3 жыл бұрын
2:40
@ashog1426
@ashog1426 3 жыл бұрын
@dash Rex the R1b DNA is about 30-35% of Armenians actually to some extent or another and R1b and R1a are the aryan bloodlines which migrated from Anatolia/Eastern Europe to India and Western Europe later America
@rossmelnyk1900
@rossmelnyk1900 3 жыл бұрын
@dash Rex It's not specific only to Indo- Iranian..that's the point. Ireland, Ares...etc.
@jattnijjerable
@jattnijjerable 3 жыл бұрын
Blonde hair most likely cones from the Baltic but coloured eyes maybe southern Russia and the steppe, but do you have the character of the arya, do follow izzat ?
@spacebeast4486
@spacebeast4486 2 жыл бұрын
What is CE? Is that the same as BC?
@victoriacampos7715
@victoriacampos7715 9 ай бұрын
Common era now used instead of ac
@skin4700
@skin4700 4 ай бұрын
secular bs for ac
@sivaniam
@sivaniam 3 жыл бұрын
There is an Aryan non Aryan divide from the Hattian lands, the Iranian lands, the Afghanistan lands and in the Indian lands. This is also in writings of these lands. Today the Indus is being renamed as Saraswathi Indus, and if were to include the caste system, there is a need for a second opinion.
@SI-cd7xs
@SI-cd7xs 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It has always been Aryan vs non Aryan distinction
@ranapratapsingh3416
@ranapratapsingh3416 2 жыл бұрын
There was no caste system in ancient India nor in Rigveda. Caste system looks like a modern creation of India.
@sivaniam
@sivaniam 2 жыл бұрын
@@ranapratapsingh3416 This statement shows you have not read the Rig Veda.
@ranapratapsingh3416
@ranapratapsingh3416 2 жыл бұрын
@@sivaniam I understand and read Rig veda carefully. Present the evidence and talk. Empty talks aren't enough.
@bonran
@bonran 2 жыл бұрын
@@sivaniam There are no castes in the Rg Veda. Caste "system" with rigid unchangeable castes only started around 1 AD and not in Vedic times. This is well known in India. But maybe your Christian Evangelical bias is playing some role here.
@Rpatqd6bi
@Rpatqd6bi 2 жыл бұрын
I never found anywhere in Veda's about mention of Harrapan civilisations or similar urban development if Veda's are so old?
@curiouskid1547
@curiouskid1547 8 ай бұрын
They talk about cities.
@Seerispure
@Seerispure 4 ай бұрын
Saraswati is mentioned in Rigveda as a immense powerful River that can break the mountains also, which dried before 5000-6000 years ago
@Coach_BigMac
@Coach_BigMac 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully done! Actual history that's not suffocated or based on mythology.
@ljnv
@ljnv 10 ай бұрын
No mention of the R1A haplogroup though?
@garlandstrife
@garlandstrife Жыл бұрын
Perhaps Aryans were the friends we made along the way.
@mihirshetye4624
@mihirshetye4624 5 ай бұрын
Underrated comment.
@mahyar2727
@mahyar2727 3 жыл бұрын
• Islamic texts also say the Jinn tribes of Arabia had Black skin and weren't considered to be Human or related to Adam since thy had horns + weird feet + out of human shape features.
@mahyar2727
@mahyar2727 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ud7ei6zv7i Jinn is Arabic. It might've even arrived from the word "Chin" (China) since Arabs can't pronounce the letter CH. But the Muslims mostly say the Jinns were Black skinned and tall.
@mahyar2727
@mahyar2727 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ud7ei6zv7i Here's some people with actual horns (watch the second half of the video): kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3rQlWmcp52JpqM And here's sme people with Jinn feet: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpnaeXmen9N6b7c
@mahyar2727
@mahyar2727 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ud7ei6zv7i Some parts are metaphors but the whole thing isn't. Devils (people/tribes with horns + weird feet + tail) did exist. They're recorded in almost every ancient text all over the world. Such people who have a crazy culture of self harm do exist and were even many more before the modern world.
@mahyar2727
@mahyar2727 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ud7ei6zv7i Devil tribes are recorded in every single culture + They're almost in every religious book (Avesta - Torah - Bible - Quran and...) + The previous generations (our grand parents) used to claim they've seen them + There are people with actual horns and weird feet present on our planet with their videos on KZbin!They had to exist.
@NegativeBodhiImage
@NegativeBodhiImage 3 жыл бұрын
Pilpul. Explain this away. Of course ppl never considered themselves racial groups, considering thats an 18/19th Century term, and etnos or ethnicity was specifically a Greek word synonymous with natos or [born of] nationality. But explain the blondism and blue eyed caricatures of personages from India (incl Buddha) to predynastic Egyptians like the mummy referred to as ginger and ruling elites of Egypt when Blue eyes is a recessive trait that emerged proto Indo European peoples around the Black sea approx 6-8000 years bpe. Protip you cant. Blondism and Red hair are purely N. European traits and Blue eyes was a trait the expanded out from a single PIE mating pair. All the wordplay in the world cant dismiss the fact that IE peoples from N. India/Pakistan/Kaffiristan to Iran to N. Africa to Europe are all from one lineage and were at least part of the ruling classes of all the relevant nations of history.
@donaldfernandes7798
@donaldfernandes7798 3 жыл бұрын
Whether we like it or not racial alignment is one of the strongest forces in the world and has been the cause of perpetual confrontation, wars and discrimination between different people speaking different languages from the time of creation till today. You can see it everywhere. It is singular, crude and inclusive. Outsiders literally have no place in these racial circles. It is exclusively for people of a single race. I am a supporter of the Invasion theory. I am also working on the decipherment of the Indus script. There are more than a thousand Indus sites in north-western part of the Indian sub-continent. Many of the ruins are almost intact even after 4000 years. The foundations are so strong that you can reconstruct houses and make them livable. My question is that they are not mere ruins, they were homes where people lived, children played, people lived here and raised families. But no one seems to be asking where have these people gone? The regular answers are: floods, climate change, drought, rivers changing their course and deforestation destroyed the Indus culture which was as large as western Europe but nothing happened to the incumbents(Vedic/Aryan people) even after living in India for almost 3500 years. I find it impossible to believe this stuff . Can anyone help me?
@donaldfernandes7798
@donaldfernandes7798 3 жыл бұрын
@Aurangzeb, Corona E Azam You have said some amazing things. I really wish the people in the south are the descendants of the Indus people, but unfortunately no one has any idea who they really are even though they speak more than twelve languages and no one refers to the Indus people as their ancestors. So there is a big gap.
@donaldfernandes7798
@donaldfernandes7798 3 жыл бұрын
​@Aurangzeb, Corona E Azam I had been an amateur military historian for many years and I have also followed many wars fought from 1971 onwards on radio the world over. I deem human beings more of brutes and less than animals. Regardless of their color they have an active inner core that seeks domination and revenge. The bitter truth is that there can be no racial unification. Added to this is the linguistic and religious fanaticism that is fed on the fuel of hatred and promoted by powers to be. Humans are essentially brutes, they are very intelligent, cunning and ruthless. The last line is not mine, it is the anthropologically definition of Homo sapiens sapiens(us). Please check it. So color and complexion are of no consequence.
@gstalivenkatesanKesu
@gstalivenkatesanKesu 7 ай бұрын
Were is Aryan native place?Which language ,is spoken?
@Γνώστηςτωνγατών
@Γνώστηςτωνγατών 7 ай бұрын
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@kenlounders5399
@kenlounders5399 3 жыл бұрын
Isnt it also wrong to divide people as noble and lower class
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 2 жыл бұрын
Is it wrong to accurately describe past societies?
@alanwerner8563
@alanwerner8563 2 жыл бұрын
It’s also equally amazing how much there is to know….
@mscreationworks5787
@mscreationworks5787 3 жыл бұрын
You are using a ➡️ " Pallava Tamil brahmi script " ⬅️ inspirations on the Thumbnail For explaining Aryan's
@Manikandan_supernova
@Manikandan_supernova 3 жыл бұрын
grantham also used for writing parkrit/sanskrit.
@redoryoussef9657
@redoryoussef9657 Жыл бұрын
The word Iran is taken from the Kurdish language, which means it means the Aryan race, Aryan. After days, time, and hundreds of years passed, Aryan was changed to Iran.
@malaikaal-amin2706
@malaikaal-amin2706 2 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly impressed with the content and narration of this video.
@ruyaal
@ruyaal 8 ай бұрын
As a linguist it’s a far fetched idea to described the Arians and protoarians as a non ethnic group, and only a some kind of ‘noble people’ with no common or cultural traits. The effort of culturally neutralize the idea of an Aryan people is more a reflection of your own projections on culture based on the result of the distorsión of these ideas in Europe in the last two centuries. There is no relation between the historical Aryans and your own ideas of race and culture.
@truthseeker3477
@truthseeker3477 3 жыл бұрын
What always puzzled me is that the language is called, ,Indo- European" however it's always stated the people migrated from Central Asia not Central Europe. I know some will say the language is similiar. I say to that, look at the laguage migration graphs and look at the languages similarities your self. The similarities go Eastward from Babylon to Persia then East.
@navidvarzeghani2789
@navidvarzeghani2789 3 жыл бұрын
Indo-iranian, iranic tribes etc. Proto Europeans, read the history of the scythians.
@truthseeker3477
@truthseeker3477 3 жыл бұрын
@@navidvarzeghani2789 The scythians, the medes, the eutrasians, the slavs, the bulgars, the vandals, the visagoths, the combined group known as the turkics, etc, etc.
@navidvarzeghani2789
@navidvarzeghani2789 3 жыл бұрын
@@truthseeker3477 they all branch out, that's what i meant. The yamanaya nomads stem from the Caucasus Mountains, means it migrated from the northeast to the south than westward. The Sumer, Babylonian and Assyrien people are different people with starkly different cultures.
@truthseeker3477
@truthseeker3477 3 жыл бұрын
@@navidvarzeghani2789 The Yamanaya culture supposedly is indistinguishable from the Afanasevo culture which is labeled as being in Southern Siberia. Since the Yamanaya culture allegedly intermingled with Eas Europeans I think the Yamanaya migrated. They seems to be north of the caucus mountains or no on their northern edge. The Assyrians, Hittites Akkadians, Sumerians->Chaldeans->Babylonian, Egyptians, etc were differentthan the people north of the Caucas mountains. However there were constant intermingling through warfare and trade. The Egyptians conquered territory up including the Black Sea probably past the caucus mtns. So did the Assyrians. Tribes/nations north of the caucas mtns conquered territory south of the caucas. The collectively termed "Turkics" swept westward from the "Russians Steppes" conquering/migrating in successive waves. Often forgotten are the early Slavic people, the northern Europeans before the Vikings and the people of now Eastern Russian. Then take into account how the Asian continent and the European continent borders have been arbitrarily moved to and fro there is a mishmash of people.
@navidvarzeghani2789
@navidvarzeghani2789 3 жыл бұрын
@@truthseeker3477 if you want to imply that us Iranians the Rus and Slav including the norse are related than you're right......even though we got conquered we always had a strong sense of identity, we merely adopted the cultures be it by force or out of convenience, the reason of us looking different than your people ain't only due to migration or subjugation, humans adapt to their surroundings. We are related to the native populations there as much as the Chinese are related to you.
@robynbaptiste2956
@robynbaptiste2956 Жыл бұрын
If this is saying ANYTHING about Aryans bring anything to India, that myth has been debunked! Indians produced the VEDAS and anyone trying to give Europe credit for it have a clear agenda.
@andiofski2653
@andiofski2653 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for clarifying. I could never reconcile the differences between Germanic and the people living in today's Iran. How can they both have a claim on being Aryian. I also appreciate to have learned that the reference isn't to distinguish a particular race. How very noble.
@IndoManiac90
@IndoManiac90 Жыл бұрын
Indians have the most claim of the title Aryan, it was used by indians first.
@andiofski2653
@andiofski2653 Жыл бұрын
@@IndoManiac90 Too bad you were not alive to claim the rights to the word when Germans claimed it. The Indians were also sleeping when Iran claimed the name Iran. BTW, while you are at it, do take a look at a few dictionaries to see the translation of the word Aryan. Most say Persian boy. At any rate, it really doesn't matter. You feel more noble than others and need the title. You can have it. My gift to you.
@bobpeter1620
@bobpeter1620 Жыл бұрын
​@@andiofski2653by claiming, nothing happens, truth remains truth
@bigbhasad9974
@bigbhasad9974 11 ай бұрын
@@andiofski2653Vedas & other Indian books literally refers to Vedic people as Aryans. Ancient name for India was Aryavrat. Both indians and Iranians are related so they have right to the word Aryan. Idk about Germanic tribes.
@DontDrinkthatstuff
@DontDrinkthatstuff 11 ай бұрын
​@IndoManiac90 The original Aryans didn't look like most modern day Indians.
@SJking-gk4go
@SJking-gk4go Жыл бұрын
I think you did a good job here, funny part is indians still believe sanskrit originated in india and that somewhere north were a clan of blue and green eyed, blonde haired lot of aryans who gave culture to the dark peoples. Yet they still cannot pinpoint where cast system or chariots and horses came from. 😊😊
@mmMstatus
@mmMstatus Жыл бұрын
There is cave painting of horses in India, which is about 40000 years old.
@SJking-gk4go
@SJking-gk4go Жыл бұрын
@@mmMstatus prolly donkeys.
@yashpednekar331
@yashpednekar331 9 ай бұрын
If Sanskrit came to India from Iran or other countries then why there no Sanskrit used anywhere except India? There are not even traces of it outside India. The whole Aryan Dravidian theory is political, created by British.
@mmMstatus
@mmMstatus 6 ай бұрын
​@@yashpednekar331r u from Goa?
@yashpednekar331
@yashpednekar331 6 ай бұрын
@@mmMstatusyes bhai
@kurtf.4383
@kurtf.4383 3 жыл бұрын
Here we go again with another defanged, politically correct video from SAMA. Much of their stuff is great, but when it comes to topics like this, they’re dishonest and emasculated. Sorry, but it’s the truth. Either way, it was somewhat “good”.
@josephkania642
@josephkania642 3 жыл бұрын
It was rambling and childish. It's one thing to disagree with a hypothesis on the merits of the evidence. It's a whole different thing to accuse people who support a theory you don't like of being white supremacists. This ad hominem nonsense should stay on the playground.
@sahulianhooligan7046
@sahulianhooligan7046 3 жыл бұрын
The channel is more focused on the mainstream scholarly consensus in all its videos. Its pretty consistent.
@atkkeqnfr
@atkkeqnfr 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this video is globalist propaganda.
@navidvarzeghani2789
@navidvarzeghani2789 3 жыл бұрын
@@sahulianhooligan7046 consistently 💩
@amitavraja3385
@amitavraja3385 2 жыл бұрын
He rightly pointed out that the word Aryan is not mentioned in any European migration or documented in European ancient history. Only in India and somewhat Iran is mentioned. Why?
@chrisnewbury3793
@chrisnewbury3793 Жыл бұрын
In ancient times Ireland was called Aria.
@UpperNileGuy
@UpperNileGuy 7 ай бұрын
I only know this becasue i live there but in ancient times many slavic war chants had words like aria ariean in them
@DipakBose-bq1vv
@DipakBose-bq1vv Жыл бұрын
Aryans, derived from the original Sanskrit word Arya, means cultivated educated person, according to Sri Aurobindo, used to have very high moral standard with great regard for truth, promise and hospitality. Their sages, or Rishis, after many years of meditations and learning, derived some great ideas or hymns(Riks) on God and universe. Recent DNA evidence shows that Europe experienced a massive population influx from the east, beginning around 4,500 years from the present. Several haplo-groups were involved in this expansion, including the Indian-origin R1a1a. This was almost a total replacement event, which indicates that Indo-Aryans, among others, expanded westward into Europe and to a large extent replaced indigenous European males and their Y-chromosome strata (Sharma and his associates, 2009) This genetic evidence indicates that several Y-chromosomal (patrilineal) lineages, one of which was the Indian-origin R1a1a, gave rise to the modern European population. Out of these lineages, R1a1a is the most widespread and numerous. Recent DNA evidence shows that Europe experienced a massive population influx from the east, beginning around 4,500 years from the present. Several haplo-groups were involved in this expansion, including the Indian-origin R1a1a. This was almost a total replacement event, which indicates that Indo-Aryans, among others, expanded westward into Europe and to a large extent replaced indigenous European males and their Y-chromosome strata (Sharma and his associates, 2009) This genetic evidence indicates that several Y-chromosomal (patrilineal) lineages, one of which was the Indian-origin R1a1a, gave rise to the modern European population. Out of these lineages, R1a1a is the most widespread and numerous. It proves that: 1. The R1a haplogroup originated in India. 2. The Indo-Aryan people have lived in India for at least 15,450 years, which invalidates the theory that the Indo-Aryans invaded India 3,500 years ago. 3. The hundreds of millions of members (possibly over a billion) of the R1a family living across the world today - a very large fraction of humanity - are all descended from one single male ancestor who lived in India at least 15,450 years ago. This discovery demonstrates the close genetic (and hence linguistic and cultural) affinity of Indians with the Russian and Polish people, the Vikings and Normans, and with the ancient Scythians and Tocharians, among many others (Sharma et al, 2009). References: Sharma S., 2009, The Indian origin of paternal haplogroup R1a1* substantiates the autochthonous origin of Brahmins and the caste system. Journal of Human Genetics, 54, 47-55 Sarker, A., A., Deshpande , A., Mukherjee, M. K., Bera,, B., Das, N., Juyal, P., Morthekai, R. D. , Deshpande, V. S., Shinde, V., & Rao, L. S., 2016, Oxygen isotope in archaeological bioapatites from India: Implications to climate change and decline of Bronze Age Harappan civilization, Nature, Scientific Reports volume 6, Article number: 26555.
@v.gopalakrishnan350
@v.gopalakrishnan350 2 жыл бұрын
The concluding words really capture the essence of who an Aryan could be!
@mahipalcharan6690
@mahipalcharan6690 2 жыл бұрын
Yes now they know all off prior Colonial assumption & Froud but Afraid of accept history.Indo European languages migration happened Becouse The Ten king war of Rigvedas kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpbbmmmAnreYps0 The Indian king Sudas Vs Iranian king Kavi Chayman Parthava (Parthian).
@mahipalcharan6690
@mahipalcharan6690 2 жыл бұрын
Defeated King Kavi Chayman Parthava Parthian decendent founders of kayanian Dynasty of Iran. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2itqZWVns2Frqc 🤔👈
@mahipalcharan6690
@mahipalcharan6690 2 жыл бұрын
Parthian, Kavianian, Persian, forfather. kzbin.info/www/bejne/foTIZK2dlr6Hack 🤔👈
@chrisnewbury3793
@chrisnewbury3793 Жыл бұрын
@Black Lesbian Poet is there anybody you people don't think were black? lmfao
@kainikaramohamedkuttykmoha5863
@kainikaramohamedkuttykmoha5863 Жыл бұрын
Well presented and excellent explanation, interesting ,informative and brilliant vedeo. Congratulations
@1800JimmyG
@1800JimmyG 3 жыл бұрын
"I am Darius the great king, king of kings, king of countries containing all kinds of men, king in this great earth far and wide, son of Hystaspes, an Achaemenid, a Persian, son of a Persian, an Aryan, having Aryan lineage." I am jimmy, of minnesota, having middle class lineage????
@n.kirkevans6256
@n.kirkevans6256 3 жыл бұрын
"I am of noble lineage" totally makes sense as a sentence. More to the point, you should actually look at it in the ancient Iranian--a language you cannot speak, so maybe should not spout off about it on the internet. (I can't either BTW, which is why I defer to scholars who can and have spent their whole career studying the matter.)
@1800JimmyG
@1800JimmyG 3 жыл бұрын
@@n.kirkevans6256 who hurt you kirk?
@n.kirkevans6256
@n.kirkevans6256 3 жыл бұрын
@@1800JimmyG who taught you english and history Jimmy? They obviously did a piss-poor job.
@navidvarzeghani2789
@navidvarzeghani2789 3 жыл бұрын
@@n.kirkevans6256 you wanna tell me what my ancestor said, huh? as an Iranian, i can easily say that you're wrong.
@kovanecky
@kovanecky 2 жыл бұрын
Gravettians did not wage war or destruction, but taught the inhabitants the skills they possessed and brought the faith and religion they had. Their religion, which they inherited from the Aurignacians, was a belief in the sanctity of life and in a sacred natural order with a ritual tribute to animals. Instead, they were named by the inhabitants of the Indus Valley - Arya, which means (in sanskrit) noble, honorable, great and truthful. This is the story of the second migration of hunter-gatherers from Europe, 10 - 4 000 BC, to east and south.
@ted_splitter
@ted_splitter 2 жыл бұрын
Light skin being associated with nobility could be to do with nobles not having to go and work in the fields etc, and so not catch the sun's rays on their skin. Someone with lighter skin, even a stranger, might therefore be assumed to be somehow noble, in a kind of backwards logic. It does seem to be something that occurs in many cultures and might be related to things like women wearing the veil in medieval and early modern europe, and in Islamic and other middle eastern and central Asian cultures. So if there is reference to lighter skinned Aryans, it may be simply a description related to this class-based phenomenon.
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 2 жыл бұрын
If you check a map of IQ distribution besides a map of melanine distribution you'll notice a negative correlation. You can see the same clinal in Japan and Korea, where the northeners have not only fairer skin but higher IQ than southeners.
@mr.leavell8285
@mr.leavell8285 2 жыл бұрын
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 Because many of the extraterrestrials or Fallen Angels had recessive genes and they in turn have given those same genes to us. The more recessive you are, the better IQ. Recessive genes include, red hair, blue eyes, silver or gray hair, elongated skulls, mutations, white people, albinos, light skinned people like me. We all have higher IQ's than Africans or people with more dominant genes. Adam & Eve had some of the most dominant genes until a Fallen Angel 👽 tricked them. From Hebrew to English or from dominant to recessive. Nobility would be those with higher IQ's, recessive genes, & elongated skulls, & larger body frames, like the giants with skinny limbs.
@mr.leavell8285
@mr.leavell8285 2 жыл бұрын
The Arcturians have elongated skulls also. They are the reason why Nefertiti looks the way she is depicted. Nefertiti was nice, calm, beautiful, and black. Arcturians are the most advanced and technological. They are the ones that inter-dimensionally travel.
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.leavell8285 Even w/o the ET explanation, the reason of why Aryan genes are recessive is the same of why good sight is a recessive trait, because you cannot afford to be half-intelligent in the harsh Ice Age where Europeans evolved. By the way, you can switch from Aliens to Atlanteas, and the end result is the same.
@mr.leavell8285
@mr.leavell8285 2 жыл бұрын
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 We have diversity because of our galactical neighbors have diversity. Enough said.
@SaintMatthieuSimard
@SaintMatthieuSimard 3 жыл бұрын
That was interesting until you made it about "white supremacy" and spoiled the soup.
@BenState
@BenState 3 жыл бұрын
why?
@SponsorShort
@SponsorShort 3 жыл бұрын
Being Aryan has nothing to do with racism and fascism. Its our identify inscribed in stone from 2500 years ego. Associating it with Nazism is a huge insult to us. That monster Hitler stole it from us, as he stole the Swastika from Indians. Damn him
@vitamin3076
@vitamin3076 3 жыл бұрын
@@SponsorShort "The Aryans, a name that meant “noble of birth and race,” migrated from their ancestral home on the Eurasian steppes, crossing the Hindu Kush east of the Iranian Plateau. Travelling in tribal groups of varying sizes over a period of hundreds of years, they set- tled in the land they called “Sapta Sindhu,” or the “land of the seven rivers,” in which they found lush plains for their pastoral lifestyle. They conquered not by barbarity but by overwhelming the indigenous tribes with their sophisticated battle tactics and their swift, spoke-wheeled chariots, battle equipment never before used in the Indus valley." - Encyclopedia of Wars, Philips C and Axelrod A
@SponsorShort
@SponsorShort 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ud7ei6zv7i Yes, actually it's the oldest sign in existence. The oldest one has been found in Ukraine and is almost 12000 years old.
@TarebossT
@TarebossT 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ud7ei6zv7i The oldest attestation of swastika is in the Cucuteni-Trypillia culture.
@BurnRoddy
@BurnRoddy 3 жыл бұрын
It would seem this video starts from an vague premise that I feel should be explained more throughly. The idea of ethnicity has been around for as long as mankind has been on Earth, its the concept of ethnicity that is not the same thing as it was in the past because it changes over time as we redifine ourselves we do it for others as well. In the ancient world it used to be intrinsically linked not to class but to nationhood. And the border of the nation was not the empire but the city. Ancient people's could see themselves as brothers but never as the same. That's why Semites were such nationalists despite all living in the same place. In that context being Iranian was as alien to Persians as being Latin or Greek. This is also why the Greeks had a distinct cathegory for blond people called "yellow" yet people like Achilles or Alexander were considered Greek despite being blond. Foreigners weren't just different phisically they were alien in culture and the only people equal to you were the ones living in the same city. Hence why Socrates was a considered a foreigner despite living a few miles beyond the borders. And its not that much different between infamous gardner Sargon of Akkad and his king Ur-Zababa. It would take humanity until the late middle ages with the Absolute Monarchs that gave birth to maritime empires to have nations of equals all across the board.
@bellisperennissturdivant
@bellisperennissturdivant 3 жыл бұрын
thanks gamer
@NegativeBodhiImage
@NegativeBodhiImage 3 жыл бұрын
technically etnos was a Greek term, and has a history of about 2500-2800 years... but there is evidence the Egyptians considered race on the table of nations as well as other sources like the Indian Epics.
@ophilliaophillia5918
@ophilliaophillia5918 3 жыл бұрын
ETHNIC THOR. You talk such rubbish
@BurnRoddy
@BurnRoddy 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-ud7ei6zv7i I never went into full detail about the haplogroups and such so I find what you're telling me fascinating. I agree on A LOT of things probably even more than I realize at first glance even. Except I disagree in some minor issues. Technically, the widespread nomadic Scythians relationship with the Classical Greeks predated Alexander the Great by Centuries. And it was deep enough to have Scythain iconography not just in Greek art during the Golden Century but in the sacred Parthenon itself. Ilyrians on the other hand, never expanded to such extent going from Northern Italy to upper Greece and it is possible that they had reached Macedonians but not Thessaly since historically speaking, Ilyrians lived further North and were said to clash with and form alliances with the Etruscans against protoCelts from Central Europe. It seems much more plausibly to me that blond hair in Thessaly comes from a much earlier preAnatolian period and is not Pelasgian but Chalcolithic or even Neolithic in origin. Ilyrian tech however, might as well have reached all of Greece since the Spartan already had a variant of the Ilyrian helmet when in the Peloponese by 8th Century BC. As far as DNA is concerned, mainland Acheans came from Cycladic Minoans from circa 2800 BC to 2400 BC whom themselves came from from Anatolian peoples from around 6000 BC. I recall a study done in Crete with bodies from around 3300 BC, from 2007 I believe, which sugested that they share the same DNA with modern day peoples from the island. Likewise genetically speaking, Classical Greeks were indeed decentants of the so called Mycenean Acheans (study from 2017) but they also kept their culture as a basis of their own and somehow Hellenized ( impossed it ) the rest of the Aegean Sea. However, Anatolian peoples had A LOT of interaction with Semithic peoples after the Chalcolithic ended thus making them remarkably different from the Acheans both genentically and culturally speaking, and more similar to Bronze Age Pakistan than Bronze Age Greece, which is why Semitic Sumerians were keen to trade with Harappan peoples from that far back into the Bronze Age. Although their heads of empires did form a brotherwhood between eachother, according to letter transcipts, it was no different than between the Egyptians and themselves, meaning it was more of an honorary title for important peoples, heads of state / government officials, rather than a familiar bond of an ethnic origin of some sort. At this point I'd also like to mention Armenians are also a very interesting group since the were a horse riding steppe dwelling people reaching the heartland of Europe (modern day Armenia) well into the late Bronze Age. But basically this tells me they were at the very edge of the Hallstatt sedentary peoples and had a very strong connection with preScythian Aryans/Iranians. The Mitani took horses from the Armenians and came up with the war chariot tech and it was through this vehicle how the great Empires of the Bronze Age reached their peak in splendor, including the Mycenean Acheans. The history of how both, Minoans and Hellenic Greeks, were able to survive the Bronze Age collapse is remarkable. They basically kept retreating further away from the coast and kept building higher and higher up in the mountains to places which were seemingly impossible to conquer by the SeaPeoples, and finally after they were gone, they gradually returned and reclaimed their lands, Pan Helenism was syill a reality but it had been so long that they lacked a written common language, and by the 8th Century BC when they had already fully recovered, and were fighting against eachother while amassing considerable armies, but keeping a Pan Helenic sentiment which could undoubtedly trace back to those frightful humble recluses from Dark Ages after the Bronze Age Collapse that eventually lead them to best the mighty Persians in the Archaic age with a little help from the Scythians previously weakening the heart of the Persian Empire course.
@BurnRoddy
@BurnRoddy 3 жыл бұрын
@@ophilliaophillia5918 ¿Thor?
@khanofcaledonia6413
@khanofcaledonia6413 4 ай бұрын
India was consistently invaded by the people from central asia until the medieval times so Ariyan invasion makes perfect sense.
@janosanfran
@janosanfran Жыл бұрын
Fascinating subject; wonderful presentation. It's a keeper!
@benwillis2064
@benwillis2064 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! 👏 You have changed my life today. What a great gift 🎁. Knowledge and truth. 🙂
@fullaranag
@fullaranag 3 жыл бұрын
I am an indian and Hindu. My question is this, if our ancestors are from West why do we have our holiest places in the gangetic belt, not on the banks of Indus! In fact, Why is Ganges more mportant than Indus?
@Seerispure
@Seerispure 3 ай бұрын
​He said Vedas mentioned sarswati ganga yamuna like holy rivers but now sarswati is dried so Ganga Yamuna is holy rivers of Aryan isleft​ @@FoxDeadly no europian & Central Asian river is mentioned in Rigveda and Indus valley is not center of Aryan culture according to Aryan litrature rigveda, they didn't mentioned a specific point of Aryan civilization, they were in bharat east of sindhu and Northern part of Bharat
@matheuspinho4987
@matheuspinho4987 Жыл бұрын
The narrator repeats like a mantra that the term doesn't refer to an ethinicity and forgets that "class" and "nobility" *is* always blood-related in ancient civilizations And ah yes, the Aryans moved to India and became their highter caste by giving flowers to them😎🌼😳
@chrisnewbury3793
@chrisnewbury3793 Жыл бұрын
It's disgusting really. I often wonder if people like him really believe their own propaganda.
@utkarshsingh8297
@utkarshsingh8297 Жыл бұрын
​​@@chrisnewbury3793 Aryans were tall, golden skinned central Asians who killed and raped ancient European Neolithic population
@chrisnewbury3793
@chrisnewbury3793 Жыл бұрын
@@utkarshsingh8297 we don't know where they came from originally. The Central Asian thesis is theory at-best.
@bobmcbob9856
@bobmcbob9856 2 жыл бұрын
Based on this video it seems to me that Aryan was an ethnic marker but in an older sense, referring purely to culture rather ancestry. For example Slovyan/Sloven, Slav, literally something like “worded” refers to one who can speak (in proto Slavic), as opposed to a Nemec, a mute (one who does not speak proto Slavic), thus the Frank Samo or some earlier Goth or Scythian who assimilates into a Slavic culture and speaks the language would be considered Sloven. Similarly someone who is Teutonic is someone who is of the people, but the people are “people who live like us” not “people who descend from the same genetic ancestor group as us”. To the Greeks or Romans also, a Barbarian was one who did not speak the language of a civilized culture (Greek, Latin) and does not live a civilized lifestyle (lives outside of large cities, wears pants instead of robes, drinks beer instead of wine, is a citizen of a civilized state like Athens, Sparta, or Rome etc.) by this definition a black person or a blonde person (seen as a race distinct from the white Mediterraneans) can be civilized as long as they live like a Greek or Roman and obtain citizenship. Among the Greeks ancestry mattered more than in Rome, your parents both had to be born in the state for you to be a citizen, but even then ethnicity/genetics weren’t important, a Phoenician, a Celt or a Nubian could live in Athens and have a kid there and that non Greek kid would still be a citizen & therefore civilized. In Rome of course it was even easier with military service being a path to citizenship & from there all you needed to do was assimilate culturally. So it looks like Aryan was an ethnic marker in that sense. Do you share our moral values, pray to our Gods, etc? If so it doesn’t matter if you’re a tan guy with a hair colour range from black, through brown, to red like the migrating Aryans, a dark skinned descendant of Dravidians, or a tan but purely black haired Elamite, you’re Aryan. Am I correct in this understanding?
@12SPASTIC12
@12SPASTIC12 Жыл бұрын
This is also my understanding of the term, and as you observed, it fits with other Indo-European groups as well.
@parjanyashukla176
@parjanyashukla176 Жыл бұрын
Aryans were those who offered 5 times prayers daily, in the direction of Athens.
@AK31029
@AK31029 Жыл бұрын
@@parjanyashukla176 Not a good choice. Persian/ Greek wars have ended. we live in 21st century.
@theinspector7882
@theinspector7882 3 жыл бұрын
Throughout history there's been people of all four skin colors who are Top Entrepreneurs, Top Scientists, Top Sportsmen, Top Politicians, Top Writers, Top Musicians, Top Artists, Top Philosophers, Top Criminals, and specially Top Liers, etc.
@louiscates6975
@louiscates6975 2 жыл бұрын
Curiously asking, what the 4 skin colors are that you refer to?
@theinspector7882
@theinspector7882 2 жыл бұрын
@@louiscates6975 black, white, brown & yellow.
@pelandolickasshole8715
@pelandolickasshole8715 2 жыл бұрын
@@theinspector7882 some are green and red also
@theinspector7882
@theinspector7882 2 жыл бұрын
@yitzhak shekkelsteingoldmanberg I take that as a compliment, thanks
@largelester
@largelester Жыл бұрын
Hate to tell you but the truth is racist. Yes, a lighter more advanced class of people invaded northern India and ruled as the elite members of a caste system; and the majority of northern India's upper classes are lighter than the lower classes unto this very day.
@dhruvyamdagni5858
@dhruvyamdagni5858 6 ай бұрын
aryan invasion theory is already debunked , even also by a british man himself , lol , you dont even know where these pepole took the aryan word , its not even aryan its arya which we call ourselves from long before 5000 years , a lot of history is recorded
@itsalwayssunnyinpahoa7631
@itsalwayssunnyinpahoa7631 6 ай бұрын
That’s Reeeeeecist!
@unknownmaster5078
@unknownmaster5078 6 ай бұрын
That’s not true because Jatts and Kambojs are lower caste yet are lighter than upper castes and have more West Eurasian features
@pmaitrasm
@pmaitrasm 6 ай бұрын
There is ample evidence of advanced cities in the Indus Valley Civilization. The nomads, albeit military superior, couldn’t manage anything beyond mud huts.
@swagincarnate5217
@swagincarnate5217 6 ай бұрын
@@dhruvyamdagni5858 can you tell me who debunked it? I'm curious and this subject fascinates me
@gihanwijetunga6164
@gihanwijetunga6164 6 ай бұрын
My background is Sinhalese (Sri Lanka) which is probably the farthest south-eastern reach of Indo-European culture and language. In the Sinhalese language, I’ve heard people referring to themselves or a family they know as ‘Ārya Sinhala’, which I think means something akin to respectable, proper, original. As Buddhists, we hear ārya quite a lot in the scriptures and the meaning there is something along the lines of ‘civilised’ or ‘cultured’. It’s a nuanced word which is quite difficult to define in a non-Indic language. Incidentally in Buddhist Buddhist temples, you will see lots of Swastikas - both in old temple ruins dating back 2000 years and in modern ones. It’s a real shame the meaning of these beautiful symbols and words have become so corrupted in the west. The wholesale adoption of these symbols by the Nazis is one of the worst examples of cultural appropriation in human history. 😢
@timeaftertime-om7os
@timeaftertime-om7os 3 ай бұрын
Idk its relate or not More than five Javanese inscriptions in early 10th century write about ariya people. Kancana inscription : People or ariya dravida pandhya kling shinghala, khmer mon cham and hunjeman (arab rom merchants) were FOREIGNERS. They must pay foreigners tax as traders or workers. They aren't allowed to stay in cities or villages, only in the ports. Salam.
@herr5262
@herr5262 2 жыл бұрын
My Lord you are PCing the crap out of this. Everyone knows that Indians in the North are lighter and primarily Aryan and those in the South are darker and primarily Dravidian. One can see that northern Indians have similar features to Europeans, that the majority in the South do not. Just because racists used this information does not mean it is wrong and admitting it does not devalue Dravidian accomplishments or civility. We KNOW that the Aryans invaded and subjugated the Dravidian people because it is written about in the ancient Sanskrit texts. NO MORE PC BS! Tell History accurately without the social politics. History is the bad and the good;only by seeing what the ancestors did wrong can we assure that the future descendants do not repeat those uncivil abominations.
@Πρωταθλητής-ξ4ι
@Πρωταθλητής-ξ4ι Жыл бұрын
I installed DNA test R1a output The origin is Kurdish Aryan, but with the Arab and Turkish occupation, his skin color has changed, especially Turkey's Kurds city in Dersim Adıyaman Malatya is mostly white skinned and has the R1 gene
@pranays
@pranays Жыл бұрын
More nazi Mythology Rascist pos
@Πρωταθλητής-ξ4ι
@Πρωταθλητής-ξ4ι Жыл бұрын
@@pranays The name Aryan first appeared in Iran The name Aryanzanti is mentioned in the Medes Kabi, which is touted as the ancestor of the Kurds. 50% J1-J2 DNA in today's Kurds For example, there is 50% R1A DNA. The R1A rate is VERY HIGH among Kurds who believe in the Alawite and Yazidi religion. because it didn't mix with the Arabs Kurdish cities of Turkey
@VSLS06
@VSLS06 Жыл бұрын
@@Πρωταθλητής-ξ4ι J2 is native anatolian?
@Πρωταθλητής-ξ4ι
@Πρωταθλητής-ξ4ι Жыл бұрын
@@VSLS06 J2 Original Anatolian DNA Anatolian people in Kurds Among the Kurds, J2 and R1 are the most common.
@VSLS06
@VSLS06 Жыл бұрын
@@Πρωταθλητής-ξ4ι I'm greek pontic with J2
@anthonylemkendorf3114
@anthonylemkendorf3114 2 жыл бұрын
I’m suspicious of some history that appears to be promoted as a reaction to contemporary race conflict.
@rathy_v
@rathy_v Ай бұрын
Aryan was modern-day Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, and those were called Mesopotamia civilization.
@mindmesh7566
@mindmesh7566 3 жыл бұрын
Darius the Great divided his Persian Empire into “Iran” and “An-Iran” - #that is “Aryan” and “Non-Aryan,” but never imposing Aryan customs and religions onto, say, the Egyptians as they -the Persians - knew the Egyptians were a older civilization and that they were the inheritors and also the bringers of something brand new.
@saratmodugu2721
@saratmodugu2721 3 жыл бұрын
Actually they believe they were the inheritors of Elam.
@mindmesh7566
@mindmesh7566 3 жыл бұрын
@@saratmodugu2721 ……And the Elamites inherited what came before them: Egypt and Mesopotamia. The origin of civilization just passes from culture to culture.
@saratmodugu2721
@saratmodugu2721 3 жыл бұрын
@@mindmesh7566 well not exactly as the first cities were in Canaan and then migrants from Uganda and Central Asia superseded the local powers and chieftains to create those civilizations so not exactly
@venom6885
@venom6885 3 жыл бұрын
@@mindmesh7566 nope aryans was old sumeryans mix ubaid cultures iranians aramaic canaanites paleosiryac in concluzion gypsy kurdish central Asia Russian french and celtic and austriians scitians empires Sons of aryans and south east asia prevedic aryans
@venom6885
@venom6885 3 жыл бұрын
@Jon Dau aryans was sumeryans mix ubaid cultures ashur old iranians parthians canaanites aramaic spread in middle east libanon Siria Egypt canaan Irak and central Asia in achamenides hittites scitians parthians diferents name empires and south east asia from childrens of annak
@posthumanguy435
@posthumanguy435 2 жыл бұрын
Aryana = Ancient Afghanistan 5,000 years ago, centered around the city of Balkh.
@آریاافشار-ك1ج
@آریاافشار-ك1ج Жыл бұрын
خسته نباشی آریانا شد آریایی؟ 😂 خودت هم می‌دونی آریایی اصیل ایرانی ها هستند نه پشتون های طالبانی
@posthumanguy435
@posthumanguy435 Жыл бұрын
Aryana = Aryaiee YES!!@@آریاافشار-ك1ج
@Seerispure
@Seerispure 4 ай бұрын
Yes, princess of gandhar 🙇🏼‍♀️❤️ mother gandhari is mentioned in Mahabharat​@@posthumanguy435 And mama Shakuni also 😢
@JanardhanPrasadDVS
@JanardhanPrasadDVS 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. You have given us good narration of chronology of the myth of aryanism. I have read vedas. Nowhere I found that Aryan was a Race. Word Aryan was used to refer to householderman and was one among other gentlemen.
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