As Below, So Above | James Lindsay

[@seanmiller1303]

Excellent talk. The history of this as a precursor to Hegel and Marx really helps frame these ways of thinking, and the urgency their acolytes work with.

[@SovereignNations]

This session was reuploaded to fix a technical issue with the audio.

[@solitudessilentgroove]

Comment for algorithmic bump. But since I'm here I feel inclined to mention that the last episode was profound for me as I realized my life's belief structure closely resembles what James calles hermeticism. I've never been much into the occult as I'm naturally an empiricist or objectivist, but I do somewhat believe in the Perennial Philosophy, so to speak. Read Aldous Huxley's book by that name as a teanager, studied zen Buddhism, and took a lot of psychedelics that confirmed those insights of oneness through direct "spiritual" experiences. But I never extrapolated it into a gnostic belief that required other people to do anything at all, for salvation has already arrived, and the world is already perfect within its imperfections. My natural disposition is very libertarian and I've been a constitutional conservative who votes republican ever since I discovered Ron Paul in 2007. But I'm still a hippie psychonaut buddhist musician, lol. James Lindsay has become a fascination for me over the past couple years and I've listened to all his interviews and podcasts, some multiple times. He's brilliant, as we all know. I've also become a big fan of Steven Hicks work. Excited to did into this lecture. Peace and Love to y'all. BTW, H.I.P.P.I.E is an acronym that stands for Highly Intelligent Person Pursuing Infinite Enlightenment, but it also stands for Hairy Imbecile Pompously Projecting Intellectual Excrement. The problem is that they both look the same and you can't tell the difference until you talk to them. lol.

[@crocodilegrundee4514]

Your comment for algorithmic bump was quite entertaining lol!

[@afuzzycreature8387]

oh, you believe in nonsense. Good to know

[@devin_3875]

I’m curious whether you’d like the work of GK Chesterton - have you checked him out?

[@feruspriest]

You might like "the meaning crisis" by Vervaeke

[@feruspriest]

@@afuzzycreature8387 are you a theist?

[@Sk0lzky]

This man made me read rosicrucarian literature and now, after years of dreamless sleeping, I have daily nightmares. Highly recommend.

[@nynoah]

The Georgia Guide stones were created by one.

[@amberslahlize7961]

Yeah, and we thought tearing down the stones would change anything. lol

[@amalgamating]

​@@amberslahlize7961 it was a ritual and we who.

[@KibyNykraft]

To make anything out of the rosiecrucian literature you must have the IQ as well as the training in the scientific method + a big enough overview of cultural history, in order to understand where it is flawed and where it points to something interesting or relevant for knowledge. Most people lack that, this is just a natural variation that is a fact on today's stage of the evolution of the human organism and mind. Most people waste their time on trying to read stuff their minds aren't smart enough to comprehend the flaws or strengths of, this is a typical side of the consumption culture, the political society and the religious society. People naturally like wishful thinking and entertainment but that is far away from making you a scholar.

[@cjgrace7698]

@@KibyNykraft Couldnt have said it better myself. The only thing I would add on to the beginning sentence of your statement is people's NON usage of "common sense". The Seven Hermetic principles for example (to me) are COMMON SENSE. To them...its somehow the "devil" or evil...? These people are sooooo deluded & lazy in their collective worldview of concentrated ignorance & religiosity that most times I cant even say forsure that we're dealing with "humans" anymore (& thats me being "nice") They are completely possessed by the egregores that are ignorance, apathy, fear (& I can go on & on) Whoever has the audacity to try & make sense of the ancient world, along with its timeless wisdom (of BOTH polarities, mind you) using a "modern mind" is ABSOLUTELY playing themselves. Most "christians" I encounter dont even know the basics of the crusades, the inquisition(s), papal bulls, etc, or even know what they are period! Let alone knowing the significance of what these "Holy Wars" have done to the minds of almost every being walking the surface world.

[@Wickerman-tf9oy]

James, I really appreciate your work. It’s needed. One point I’d make, don’t over generalize or lump hermetics and Gnosticism into a collective ideal. In my findings, those traditions should be practiced by the individual. The principles are just guidelines to personal development and ultimately mental growth. It’s seems most mystery schools follow this format. Those traditions are for the individual and promote self mastery. (Help yourself, before you help others). Also the piece collectivists seem to ignore. With that said, I completely agree these mystery school principles were hijacked by marxists. Humanity and it’s search for meaning… they needed a spiritual component to sell the bill of goods.

[@bbblackwell]

Yeah, more often than not, it's not the philosophy that's the problem, it's the application. Perverts dress their lies in truth to get people to accept it, since most people are not perverts. The meal could be 99% legit, as it only takes 1% poison to fulfill the malicious intent.

[@socialmoth4974]

Agree. I have read the book on the hermetic principles and it brought me comfort and understanding about life's ups and downs. I never in a million years would have connected them to wokeism. But, maybe I haven't gone in deep enough.

[@bbblackwell]

@@socialmoth4974 Are you familiar with Mark Passio's work on occultism? He talks a lot about how the ancient wisdom of the ages is applied in dark and light contexts: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2K5amt6qLOLn5I

[@socialmoth4974]

@@bbblackwell No I haven't. Thanks! I'll check it out.

[@socialmoth4974]

@@bbblackwell I have listened for just over an hour to the video you linked and I am blown away! I will be listening to as much of his work as I can! Thank you so much!

[@matthewnyce2978]

Very valuable in understanding what I am encountering as a professor and counselor.

[@gebswife]

I have shared this video with everyone I know and every way that I can. This is by far the best explanation for the ideologies of transgender, CRT, woke-ism, attacks on Christianity and a host of other ideologies in the world. I cannot explain just how powerful and imperative this lesson is needed. I pray that Abba Father will allow you to continue to seek His face and Biblical wisdom, guidance and teachings. In His Peace 🙏✝️

[@alimaclean5777]

Thy will be done on earth, as it is in Heaven

[@ginger8655]

That's a lie. The bible was written by freemason scum. Come out of religion my child.

[@thedude5740]

An oroborus(snake eating it's tale) is a symbolic meaning of life consumes itself to continue and cycles of life are endless.

[@Pseudify]

What I’m particularly interested in is why any philosophy is so attractive to many people and gains many adherents. *Especially* given the fact that the adherents largely do not understand the underlying philosophy. They glom onto something which appears attractive for some reason to them without understanding its foundation. Perhaps it’s just that philosophies are inherently “naturally selected” based on their apparent superficial attractiveness or their suitability to promote a particular agenda?

[@timdobbins8996]

9The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

[@afuzzycreature8387]

i mean if you find a way to understand life, the universe, and everything, wouldn't you like it too?

[@rosskstar]

@@Mrguy-ds9lr That's what Jehovah's Witnesses did, warn of the approach of God's Kingdom. Now Christ is revealing the "hidden manna", which shows the Satanic corruption of God's house, which must be judged first. That'll be this year.

[@WisdomThumbs]

Low barriers to entry. Knowledge is tiered. Attractive philosophies are attractive and “elevating” at all tiers: superficially, intermediately, and adeptly. It’s rare for anyone to understand anything at a truly adept level (I can’t think of anything I’m *adept* at), but since most adherents to any given philosophy are superficial, most of their community and actions take place at the superficial level. Therefore, the philosophies that are the most superficially attractive are the most popular. Stoicism isn’t superficially attractive, because it demands one to give up worries about things beyond one’s control, and accept suffering. Gnosticism, meanwhile, *is* superficially attractive because it pretends to explain everything in the universe. Both philosophies go much deeper than the superficial, and so they both have adherents, but Gnosticism has a lower barrier to entry, because one can live without moral fiber, ethics, or self-control yet still grasp the Gnostic’s superficial message. So, Gnosticism is far more popular (if more diluted) than Stoicism.

[@rosskstar]

@@WisdomThumbs Hence the tiers, under the guise the initiate needs to earn the secret knowledge but by then, their sunk cost drives keeps them attached despite moral qualms, the corruption, lies and absurdity; and that mold fits more than a few cults. Satan isn't called the great deceiver for nothing.

[@khaibitdevzero6004]

In my opinion, this lecture series is your best work. Finally getting to the fundamentals behind the woke.

[@CosmicDarwinist]

Oh my God finally! Been waiting frigging months for this

[@thedude5740]

Omg the sarcasm presented trying to make fun of things not knowing the ignorance displayed is beyond comical gold. I wish I could have the opportunity to debate your ideas and logic. I can show you through scientific evidence and pure intellectual logic how you are wrong in so many areas.

[@CC-rj6dt]

I am sorry, I don't care who you are, but these summaries are insanely in-depth... mind-blowing.

[@thedude5740]

This guy is trying, but is so wrong in so many areas.

[@ginger8655]

​@@thedude5740 Make your own video then. I'm curious..

[@thedude5740]

I've been writing a book, but currently not into the video making space. KZbin and other platforms tend to ban truth tellers. I've watched many videos be removed or flagged for zero reason other than containing powerful truths to open the minds of others.

[@thedude5740]

@@ginger8655 language is the foundation to all magical practice. It builds a false reality that only exists in the minds that can be fooled by it. The "word" is God, but the "word" is not human language. The "word" is cymatics shapes. "God" is real, however it is not what the bible leads people to believe. "God" = frequencies. 2 small videos provide evidence of this. Amazing resonance experiment and star in a jar. Frequencies mold reality into shape and provides light for life to flourish. It creates all things. You are that energy made flesh. Your DNA is layered frequencies. Once people can comprehend that information, a great deal of his lecture is voided.

[@advancedomega]

@@thedude5740 Please specify.

[@anthonydavis8954]

Very very interesting and well posed hypothesis. It does explain current times better than any other postulations I’ve seen.

[@Ricky-Noll]

James is the best Oppo researcher ever.

[@randomcomment6068]

I don't know man, gnosticism is not new, some people actually read about it. I mean, the literature is out there..

[@aakkoin]

James is just the best.

[@levonandreaskarayan9035]

Honestly, I’m underwhelmed by this take on Hermetics, as someone who was raised explicitly under two faiths-Jehovah’s Witness, and Hermeticism via Franz Bardon’s work. There’s been a broad divergence in thought in Hermetics itself, one thread of which is explicitly against this sort of socialist transformation. I wish I could chat with you about this, James.

[@randomcomment6068]

Hermeticism is very diverse in itself yes, imo James specifically addresses this particular take , since these folks are messing with humanity on a global scale atm.

[@ginger8655]

Wow. You're really messed up then.. 😢

[@occultislux]

​@@ginger8655 what's wrong with Hermeticism?

[@daweed_spieschl]

I realize now that I am an hermeticist, and I am fine with that. Still I agree with so much of what this guy says, he really seems to know what he is talking about. I do believe that good and evil are one side of the same coin, that coin being existence - but I also believe that it is critical to live ones life to pursue the good and stand up against evil (which is not easy at all).

[@shadowfax9177]

What's on the flip side of the coin?

[@Echidna7095]

A small god, this “existence “ Where did it come from?

[@inquisitor4635]

Biblical scholar Michael S. Heiser has an over 6 hour youtube video explaining gnosticism. He also has another video on post-modernism which is insightful.

[@KibyNykraft]

The original Kybalion warns about theology. Specifically. There has been spread a partially false Kybalion by the religious clergies of christianity including some claimed "gnostic" schools but I'd say these have become jesuittified during the last centuries, they are not actually gnostics. Original knowledge schools, indigenous nomads (just like modern atheism) had no concept of the "totality" or anything "almighty". Most of this allness concept was a pollution from theology of islam and christianity, and from parts of the judaic theology through the late medievals and onwards. And of course from the translations of the scholar Mauro Bigliano of ancient hebrew texts this even more clearly understates and shows this problem, in how he to his own surprise found that words showing plural forms of "men", "rulers", "scholars" ,the "steppe winds" were all wrongly translated into "god".

[@KibyNykraft]

..and of course, one can't create a something (mass and light forms) out of a *nothing* (space/infinity in the definition of a background). All energy states are localities as energy states different from space itself (also of course including more dubious or disputed types of energy forms like "dark matter" needing to be a form of charge field dynamics /ambient charge, if existing in a non-atom form- particle form). As above so below = all apparent scales of nature operate from a range of principles that are the same (fractals, vibrations and torsions). Nature is 100 percent mechanical on the "bed" of space (the infinite nothing). Now this is not a matter of philosophy as this is all that science has proved historically ,there is no scientific proof for anything else. There are claims of metaphysical qualities to space or to time etc etc but nothing of this is proved by *science*. It usually appears just as mathematical abstractions or neoplatonist/modernist pseudophilosophy. Time = the framework of observation from relative motions. To get time, one must choose the points of reference, which will be comparing the reduced distance of objects in motion as well as registring increasing entropy like heat dispersal from a source. There is no "inherent" time "in" space, there is no arrow of time, there is no "timespace" or "spacetime" literally.

[@KibyNykraft]

(the reason why the human mind is in "principle" comparable to the "cosmos" is the mechanical reason ; the human mind = charge, it is a field of particle dynamics.. A wave is only possibly created by spinning particles moving curvedwise, aggregatedly (many spinning particles together form a wave by aggregated particle-wave motion...) There is no such thing as "particle-wave duality", there are no waveforms in or of space itself. To have a wave, you must have mechanical units that operate spinwise. Spin a spinning top toy on your table. Dip it in paint or ink beforehand. Keep a paper sheet under it. While spinning, push it lengthwise. Its energy momentum change from the induced energy relative to Earth gravity will make it wobble. Its motion will draw a wave on the paper. That is a 2d representation geometrically of a double helix, which is a 3d wave. Much of "theoretical physics" and present-day claimed gnosticism is pure superstition. There is no wave-particle duality, only wave mechanics in space. In string theory by Greene one does not define the string as a string (!) One defines it as a point. Well what is a point. There are no literal points.... The world does not work by randomness nor by godly time arrows, it works only by relative energy mechanics.. For strings to be relevant in nature at a subparticle scale they need to be having a vibratory extendedness, being fully einsteinian 4d)

[@KibyNykraft]

(postmodernism is the merge of catholicism, neoplatonism and socialism.. I don't think it could get any worse to put it like that)

[@johnkrstyen]

Thanks for this comment will be trying to find it.

[@aakkoin]

Marx was the mf who said that "philosophy has merely tried to understand the world, but it ought to CHANGE the world". Not a direct quote, I hate Marx, he was WRONG.

[@ciaranbradshaw3460]

Excellent talk, Lindsay up to his usual standard 🙂

[@jacqueslefave4296]

WOW .!!! That is one of the most brilliant, cogent, well spoken, intelligent, well informed, timely, and imbued with deep moral purpose lectures that I have ever heard !!! This guy is one of the greatest thinkers of our times, maybe of any time. I wouldn't say inspired, but this man is a gift from God to a people that is sleep walking in to the Hell of a new barbarism, a dystopian world of intellectually and morally asleep lemmings going over a cliff of destruction. It is a Clarion call to action and resistance to cultural Marxism and nihilism. "A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in a bowl of silver." Thank you, and thank God for you.♥️✝️

[@karolinaszczudlo9871]

Great critique 🤩

[@icarvs_vivit]

Finally, someone gives the proper principle of controversy: all esotericism and truth is ruled not by "as above, so below" but only by its counter and inverse. I cannot believe how many people say that common, trite slogan and act as if they're saying anything other than "authority makes those below them in their own image". Only Abrahamic, sky-god absolutists could make such a blatant appeal to the god-king as natural and to the 'divinity' of the state and ruler as anything righteous and true. Per Inferius, Sic Svperivm. Ac non contra 'st.

[@42tomasz]

I'm very confused. Doesn't Christianity commonly exhibit what he describes first few minutes? "Every knee shall bow?" Maybe i'm just stupid.

[@Sage.Craft.]

Not stupid, very much correct 😅

[@socialmoth4974]

My thoughts, too. Christianity also insists on being the only religion, hence all the missionaries.

[@ke2588]

Nope, you're not stupid or confused, pretty much every criticism he makes here would apply just as much (if not more) to Christianity as it would to Gnosticism/Hermeticism. He also contradicts himself by saying that esoteric traditions rely on keeping things hidden from the masses and then saying that they are trying to force themselves on the masses 🤔

[@hubrisnaut]

Evan Sayet realized who these people were. He was very "Liberal" and became Conservative. He gave two mind-blowing speeches at the Heritage Foundation, (2007 & 20013) They are on his KZbin page. " Evan Sayet - Regurgitating the Apple How Modern Liberals "Think" " & " Evan Sayet - Kindergarden of Eden ".

[@feruspriest]

Wonder what his speaker fee was ;P money is the forbidden fruit nobody says no to.

[@jbpeltier]

I'm something of a religious mystic, so I don't take issue with a lot of the concepts discussed here. However, I make the distinction between applying this type of thinking to symbolism/"immaterial things," /"ultimate reality" and material, empirical reality. It's not the lens, it's the target. The dissolution of a lot of distinctions in metaphysical thought can bring people together and reveal that no one has the final say in things that transcend our limited grasp (and transcend our perceivable reality). Whereas, the dissolution of material, cultural, epistemological, scientific boundaries, in a hubristic attempt to CREATE the *transcendent on Earth* is dangerous. Leave unto God what is God's and unto Caesar what is Caeser's.

[@Satarack]

1:11:00 This transhumanist talk reminds me of a meme I've had in my mind for a while. Basically two pictures with the captions, "What they think is socialist man," showing Captain Picard, and "Actual Socialist Man" showing Picard as a Borg drone.

[@WesternOutpostDonVonFilms]

The Protestant concept of "all equal under God" is very important to counter these religious groups who believe themselves to be superior to everyone else.

[@SkyoffRunes]

Until you have believers, say Yahweh is the only true god and that any who follow another or other gods will go to hell. Despite polytheist religions preceding monotheistic ones. Though, people love to shun studying history to such an extent that they don't know who Yahweh was reportedly before Abrahamic religions.

[@marcyoverby3817]

​@@SkyoffRunesAGREE WITH YOU..

[@johnbrown4568]

Fantastic presentation. Thank you for posting this video.

[@Anotherjune369]

What's hilarious is a lot of "gnostic" types are simultaneously in opposition to the material world, while also worrying a lot about "climate change..."

[@caesarortega5249]

It's not the environment but the "concern" for the environment that is important to these types.

[@randomcomment6068]

Cl. Change is just a story for the plebs.

[@johnmacrae2006]

For the “knowers” it’s a part of the “Great Work”. They don’t have to believe in it, they just have to go along with it.

[@Baccanaso]

They're just larpers

[@benjaminjones1223]

this was excellent. thank you for your words of teaching and wisdom.

[@Fenriz1222]

Bill Cooper did a whole series of radio shows on this in the 90’s called “Mystery Babylon”. Hearing this all these years later after all that has happened is a little horrifying to be honest. I don’t think anyone realizes how far this has gone. I can’t help but feel completely black pilled.

[@bbblackwell]

It's pretty disheartening, but remember what Gandalf said: "Even the very wise cannot see all ends." The human spirit is indomitable, and the further these monsters push, the more they reveal the the true nature of their insanity. As Larken Rose pointed out, a severed tree begins its fall almost imperceptibly, but falls faster and faster as it descends. I believe the fall has already begun, as more people accept the plausibility of governmental and global conspiracy now than 25 years ago.

[@eurodelano]

@@bbblackwell Agreed. I think in their acceleration towards global centrality they have managed to accelerate their own demise.

[@poorzomble]

Its amazing to me he can reference everything from the occult to economic/philosophical theory, and somehow not understand any of it or even relate it to "wokeism" in a coherent way. as someone who's spent a decade researching the occult and political theories, this entire presentation had me with my jaw on the floor with how profoundly lost yet arrogant James manages to be. If you're listening to to this and feeling enlightened, then you've already been recruited into a cult built upon deception and chaos.

[@masculineleadership]

This guy is incredible

[@ТарасЗагайкевич]

Outstanding!!!

[@Angel-cu5mf]

James Lindsay is 100% fire 🔥🔥 lefty clowns couldn't hang with this for 5 minutes 😂

[@yeboscrebo4451]

Ain’t that the truth

[@caesarortega5249]

It's as the hermeticists say, "The eyes of the profane cannot see"

[@JudoMateo]

@@caesarortega5249 They groundlessly claim themselves elect and all others profane, yet they hate the true elect.

[@neocount6397]

​@Caesar Ortega they were right... and most never will 😢

[@Rabbitburnx]

5 seconds

[@ShalaJC]

This is the clearest description of why The Soviets and maoist Chinese did not care how many died in their revolutions. I was always confused why they not only did nothing to help, but encouraged these deaths, and this explains why. Destroying is viewed as positive or neutral, as the destruction washes away their problem(s).

[@afuzzycreature8387]

because the deaths of the impure lead to utopia

[@alphacat9302]

When the world you're trying to manifest requires everyone to agree, there are only so many ways to deal with those who refuse. So they Other them and destroy them and feel no remorse.

[@feruspriest]

You might like James Scott's _Seeing Like a State_, _The Art of Not Being Governed_, and _Two Cheers for Anarchism_ You're gonna have to level the same criticism of the Soviets and Maoists against Early Americans and Westward Expansion, the United Kingdom's against the Irish, the Polish against folks in the Congo, The English Civil War, the wars between protestants and catholics, World War 1's bloodshed, etc. The thing Lindsay does right i s name Eschaton as a motivator. People of all walks of life and Belief *love* Eschatonic modes of feeling/thinking.

[@gmiller4165]

It really is a gnostic death cult. Death and destruction are inherent to the internal structure of the cult, as they believe utopia will rise from the ashes. Akin to believing shaking a jar of colored sand will eventually produce the Mona Lisa, entirely faith based… every death is a step forward in the dialectic to bringing forth heaven on earth. Marxism truly might be the largest cult in human history with the largest body count.

[@yukey2587]

It seems to come down to 2 competing religions. God is good and wants humanity to thrive and serve each other and him in love. God is bad and humanity has to fight against everything he created, even if it means our own destruction. Good vs evil. The Creator vs the destroyer. Truth vs lies. The devil is the prince of lies, there is no truth in him. Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

[@718EngrCo]

I have been convinced that this woke/trans stuff felt like a cult. Now it’s crystal clear.

[@LazyFigRanch]

Lindsay speaks as though he is a Christian on every talk in this series. I'm a little confused because he has written books debunking Christianity, and his Wikipedia page claims he is an atheist, and on Twitter i recall him proclaiming loudly that he is not Christian. Considering that Lindsay has also pretended to be woke in order to mock the woke and prove how intellectually bankrupt they are, it causes me to pause when he speaks like he is a Christian. Im both cases he appears to be attaking wokeness, which was an enemy of the new athiest movement, so perhaps he js taking an enemy of my enemy approach.

[@Knuck_Knucks]

I like my James shaken. Not stirred. 🍸 This was a good one !

[@SuperLeroy66]

Everything is astrology. That's where it starts. That's where it ends. It's that simple.

[@Sage.Craft.]

he turns it into some weird conspiracy theory all while talking ab “cults” 😫

[@leahhanderson3737]

Wonderful work! Thank you!

[@mozfonky]

dude is so deep I can't even make sense out of 50 percent of what he's saying, the other 50 percent gives me a headache but I'm a dummy.

[@michaeldacosta7504]

Can someone name the opening music? If that bit is a part of a larger piece, I would very much like to listen to it

[@Pseudify]

Not sure but it sounds like Mozart.

[@crocodilegrundee4514]

Not sure, but I would like to hear the whole piece too.

[@mwdiers]

"Days Pass" by Adrian Berenguer, on the album "The Art of Loneliness".

[@michaeldacosta7504]

@@mwdiers Thank you kindly

[@KesseeIan]

Talmud | Zohar | Q/Kabbalah | King Solomon | Moses | Noahide Laws That's the underpinnings.

[@gnarlantlers70]

I'd love to see James take on the gnostic Christian heretical simulacrum that is Islam. It is a plagiarism of ancient Christian hymns blended with plagiarised ancient jewish nursery rhymes. Khadija's Nestorian (gnostic) Christian uncle (cousin?) is who said Muhammad's interaction with a demon in the cave (that made him suicidal) was actually an angel.

[@johnmacrae2006]

Yep, Islam was birthed from a Christian heresy.

[@BibleLosophR]

You have to fight fire with fire, or ideology with ideology, or religion with religion. This is why we shouldn't just have a defensive and negative approach in dealing this these false religions, we need an offensive and positive alternative. Namely, Christian postmillennialism and reconstruction. As Ken Gentry said, "Postmillennialists do not believe in the inherent goodness of man. But non-Postmillennialists seem to believe in the inherent weakness of the Gospel." We need to not merely attempt to be used of God to help transform hearts, but also to transform society. The problem with these non-Christian movements is not that they are trying to shape society. It's that they are attempting to do it with false and evil worldviews and false religions. Only the true religion can do it, and do it right. This is why Jesus' statement in the Lord's Prayer, "Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done, ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN" is the Christian antidote and alternative to non-Christian "as below so above" (or non-Christian "as above, so below").

[@Godsglory777]

Beautifully speken and very intelligent. A stimulating and biblically true word. I am thoroughly enjoying the mind and heart of Dr. James Lindsay.

[@pastorjoshuaschooping4702]

Excellent talk. Have you charted a way to show how these phenomena, of hermeticism and gnosticism, are rooted in Fallen human psychology? There is a sense in which these are the natural products of the fallen human nature, its mind and heart, and if that connection could be shown, then it might help to further ground the theory in our everyday lives and make awareness of it even more accessible. Moving from macro to micro and back to macro in that way could even show how fallen human social nature is constantly trying to rebuild Babylon in countless different ways.

[@karolinaszczudlo9871]

Interesting thought conclusion

[@Godsglory777]

Do you think that Le Morte d'Arthur: King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table fits into this category? I mean Merlin the wizard seems to give off that hermetic gnostic vibe.

[@marlobardo4274]

According to Theodotus:, "the gnostic is one has come to understand who we were, and what we have become; where we were, and into what we have been thrown whither we are hastening; from what we are being released; what birth is, and what is rebirth." "Into what we have been thrown" is reminiscent of Heidegger's Geworfenheit thrownness or being thrown into existence or dasein. So gnosis offers a theoria or a Gewissenheit -an inner conviction based on conscience and faith a looking at the divine to be able to directly perceive what it means to be truly human.

[@Echidna7095]

Sounds like a Kamala speech

[@candaniel]

What I feel like was unfairly stated in this talk, was that James Lindsay mentioned Perennialism or the "Sophia Perennis" in combination with New Age thinking, Hermeticism and Gnosticism, when Perennialism according to thinkers like Schuon, Guenon and Coomorswamy really is nothing like this Hermetic syncretism.

[@dompishen]

Would love to see a talk about this between James and Haz.

[@ghostgate82]

Why the reupload?

[@jhg291]

Annoying.

[@frankrizzo8117]

The clapping in the audio that appeared in a random spot was fixed. Good speech though.

[@kellyoneill189]

I needa listen twice anyway. 😊

[@forbearancemp5283]

1:04:00 One Ring to rule them all.

[@CourtesyPhone]

Just finished and some of Lindsey's points are pretty goofy. He somehow equates some ideas with Inherently gnostic, just because gnostics have some version of the idea. If you guys want a better Christian deconstruction of gnostism check out Church of the Eternal Logos.

[@vvh1094]

Lee Pen, in his book False Dawn, proposes a very similar diagnostic.

[@christiankraft2447]

Thanks, James. You're so good with putting this all together. It's that math background. It's the algebra thing I never liked that you are using to formulate how these similarities relate to one another. IE, you have to apply the same process to one side of the equation as you do the other. That somehow corresponds with these understandings. Pilat asks Christ, "Yeshua, what is truth. I AM the way the truth and the light. Thank God we have the truth as the light in this deception.

[@Sage.Craft.]

Not everyone that likes occult philosophy is a “leftist” so let’s get that outta the way. Those are usually pseudo occultists and are usually aesthetic or just outright embarrassing to the actual occultists.

[@ke2588]

Exactly. People who are sincerely engaged in esotericism walk a much more balanced path.

[@HeartIsHome8469]

Does James Lindsey give a lecture on the Real Yeshua Hamaschiach ? Does he give a lecture on the true dialect of the Bible , before it was hijacked ?

[@thedude5740]

Language is the foundation to all magical practice. Language has created a false sense of reality, a lesser reality.

[@hermeticinstrumentalist6804]

Making some time to watch this. Thank you again Good Sir.

[@arawiri]

I'm not going away to die thank you very much

[@arawiri]

Something is

[@Sulcuryalt_Inone]

The fact you're talking crap about hermeticism as if it has something to actually do with Marx is ridiculous. You are misresenting the ouroboros and it's irrational to somehow think there's something wrong with as above, so below. Hermeticism has nothing to do with "woke"ness.

[@S1L3N7D3A7H]

Jesus was one of those crazy hippies that was killed for his gospel about love, forgiveness, kindness, empathy, oh and that he and the father are one. Its dangerous to let the secret out that we are all God and that, "The Kingdom of God is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it". Modern Christians have moved so far away from the message of Jesus, who did not even want to be worshipped.

[@occultislux]

Very interesting, but there are a lot of different sects of gnosticism, and they don't believe the same things.

[@Carlitos1993]

Mass mindedness is the plight of the individual. 😮

[@stevenwelp7165]

A Hermetic Principle in reverse, that is.

[@CourtesyPhone]

32:00 good lecture, but I found it strange that Lindsey seemed to use "universals" as some type of decontructionist argument. How can you be a Christian and deny universals? Strange argument.

[@ke2588]

He is actually an atheist, not a Christian.

[@davemaverick8438]

​@@ke2588atheist defending christianity wtf u talking about

[@ReginaCæliLætare]

I won’t pretend that I understood most of what he said but he's captivating

[@levonandreaskarayan9035]

Research Franz Bardon-his view on Hermetics is completely different from the negative view of reality, via Gnosticism.

[@flyinghighagain7712]

Its easy to speak to an uneducated person about these subjects and be factually incorrect. If you haven't read any books on gnostic teachings or any esoteric studies than you cant just take a guys word for it.

[@Sage.Craft.]

He lost the plot 😆 the demiurge is all he’s got.

[@RadicalEugene]

A healthy culture is caused by a marriage between Faith and Reason. Science and religion are divided, but don't fight each other - that's the point. While gnosticism looks like a twisted way to unite them - it uses scientific means for religion, and mystic explanations for the realm of reason.

[@randomcomment6068]

The word sorcery.

[@TommyNicoletti]

WAIT so James thinks Hermeticism and Gnosticism have secretly OVERTAKEN the entire world in the shadows? Im so lost

[@johnmacrae2006]

The Great Work

[@BibleLosophR]

Some of this also applies to Tom Cruise's cult Scientology.

[@Baccanaso]

Scientology is a blatant plagiarism of Gnosticism.

[@LoneStarRocker]

Humanism is strictly body and strictly surface and never reaches to the divine.

[@Grace-ty5ny]

The LORD will put all these gross beliefs down, all their idols, their power, money, witchcraft. All GOD'S enemies will be put under His feet. Hallelujah!

[@rilindshehu96]

I'm all for the war against the Woke religion, but I think you're not too familiar with Gnosticism and Hermeticism.

[@andya5456]

I wish the description or hashtags for this video had mentioned woke or critical consciousness, so people searching those could find this.

[@priapulida]

#criticalconsciousness #woke

[@randomcomment6068]

#asabovesobelow #cabal #defactosatanism #fringenews

[@Findmylimit]

Is this the one where he realized his speech did not reconcile with the audience because they did not speak English so he had to slow down a bit because I can hear the frustration and angst in his voice

[@stevenwelp7165]

Sparks...Kabbalah...Chaos Theory.

[@firenfury9176]

Pleroma reminds me of a low energy state of high entropy

[@thatfeelingtarot]

It's incredible that, the symbol right behind you... Is the cosmic egg!! 🤔

[@deusvult9372]

The gnostic movement has been heavy during the last century. The fake nag hammadi and through the arts..

[@wormhole91]

James cuts the branch hes sitting on when talking about group rights

[@barryfroelich3526]

Fascinating. To answer a question with a question. That person is not logical.

[@debbiehellionandtheapocaly845]

I seen that video trans people are sacred and I remember that made my spine tingle like. I thought is this a religion😮

[@TheMightyWalk]

Go james

[@s0cializedpsych0path]

I would argue that Mr. Lindsay's disdain for Gnosis comes from his never having experienced it. There are a few different ways to achieve it, one of which is through a near death experience. I was a Satanist (not a devil worshipper) for 22 years before my NDE. However, I encountered what I can only describe as God during my time dead. I've experienced this three times. What James is describing is the actual truth... from what I saw when I was dead, Gnosticism (the light side of it) is the closest thing I've seen to the truth I witnessed. Traditional theology is all based off the Roman edit of the Bible. To call Gnosticism pessimistic is to completely misunderstand it. Yeshua was the son and emissary of the true living God. The great consciousness from which all consciousness eminates.

[@stevenwelp7165]

A La the sentient being is "excrement in a bag".

[@Carlitos1993]

Literally T&E Zone Theory

[@hunterhoose9375]

so my question is, is it not hermetic to decategorize the leftist ideologies like nazism and marxism? Does James not claim that if you look at these modern esoteric religions (political ideologies) from up on the hill, you see they are the same thing?

[@newdiscourses]

:)

[@Ricky-Noll]

Our main man!

[@SeekTheTruth205]

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJB 2 Corinthians 5:19 KJB #ITISFINISHED

[@random_person6041]

James!

[@jt3guitar]

Very basic misinterpretations. Don’t let this lecture replace reading for yourself.

[@subatoistormborn5499]

Damn so very interesting!!!!

[@brendanromanczuk5556]

Anyone really into Elder Scrolls mythology will recognize gnosticism as the High Elves religion

[@christalee3643]

I sounds to me like he is mixing some stuff together...?