You are the Target | James Lindsay | EP 367

[@michellet.2432]

Please, PLEASE have Dr. Lindsay on your program again! In the same room, if you can... this was beyond enlightening, it was important! You communicate together so well... it's exciting to hear your thoughts and ideas. Many blessings to you both, and thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing your knowledge with us all.

[@JMo-uh5cd]

Yes! I dont think Ive ever heard a guest that can follow what Dr Peterson is saying so closely and continue to push the conversation along. Great chat to listen to!

[@gloriaordaz3847]

⁠​⁠@@JMo-uh5cdexactly. I loved this interview because of it.

[@kristideeley]

I had no idea how badly I wanted this conversation to happen until just now. I am so beyond pleased.

[@Noxictyz]

This was indeed a treat. There is some hope in the world.

[@bradpaynedesigns]

I literally rewatched 4 hours of james talks about gnosticism last night and wondered "i wonder when jordan is gonna interview him"....and I woke up to this!

[@Aiks777]

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[@garypotter5569]

I like the fact that Dr Peterson came to Dr Lindsay for this talk. Dr Peterson has been becoming more awake to nakedly obvious Marxism's corrupt influence in recent months.

[@copitoh]

The fact that these kinds of conversations are available, for free, one click away, is just astonishing. World-class wisdom at hand. Take it or leave it, but you can't say you don't learn hearing to this. Universities do really have an existential challenge.

[@Aiks777]

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[@daveonezero6258]

They told you at the beginning the basis whole conversation is the Bible; The True Story of Jesus. Initiating a conversation with God and he will let you know all this. :)

[@capitalist4life]

Peterson insisted on retaining the right to publish free content during the negotiation of his DailyWire contract. DW would’ve been thrilled to have 100% of his content behind the pay wall.

[@brianmeen2158]

Agree but one thing I find frustrating about Jordan is his almost constant interrupting his guest mid-point and then going on a very long winded explanation of his own thoughts or ideas. Please Jordan let your guest finish their thoughts as then add your input

[@ronfox5519]

Thank you for an excellent reminder. I had fallen into taking such things for granted.

[@maximusf3063]

This was a great discussion, James is so damn brilliant. His ability to connect ideas and recall things with specificity is absolutely incredible to me.

[@leemartin5734]

he has the answers to everything

[@dorothysay8327]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[@anthonyhuber-permanentlyre7808]

@@dorothysay8327 *Is that supposed to be a counter argument?*

[@mouse9884]

I LOVE how Mr. Peterson has kept his interviews so casual and more like an actual conversation than an interview. Just a pleasure to be a fly on the wall while two intellectual individuals have a profound discussion on topics that actually matter to the future of humanity, and offers a deeper understanding of the human condition. Thank you.

[@foxtrotjulietbravo5536]

Dr. Peterson is a gift he shares with us.

[@Aiks777]

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[@NovasYouTubeName]

Well said I agree

[@pe137isf]

*anti-intellectual individuals, FTFY

[@brianmeen2158]

I love Jordan but I wish he would let his guest speak more! Jordan constantly interrupts and goes on long winded explanations. It’s frustrating

[@kunipeg8706]

These two men... they just finish each others thoughts and sentences. Just studying both of their work is already a life's work. This need to be a regular podcast. They're providing the tools and weapons to fight this modern insanity.

[@jamesbaker3153]

​@@OkayBoomer-o9f Okay Zoomer

[@JimJamJuicy]

@@OkayBoomer-o9fhaha ya ding dong

[@hdca18]

AAA+

[@ReasonAboveEverything]

@@KZbinmusic-oc2yq Keep spamming and stay mad lol.

[@postalizeMike]

​@KZbin music That gives us something to think about! How can we recognize our own problems???

[@km5449]

Whenever I grow weary of being a victim of "gaslighting" in this present culture, I go away, find a quiet place and listen to these 2 brilliant truth tellers. Thank you, gentlemen. Please keep up the great work! The world desperately needs your brave, informed, honest teaching.

[@warmongersCantBeTrusted]

What is gaslighting?

[@marksevel7696]

Well said. Very scary/abusive these people

[@katadam2186]

@@warmongersCantBeTrusted another way to say it is “ blowing smoke up your azz” . Sorry about being so blunt! Other description lying, twisting the truth, making people believe total nonsense etc .. remember anyone could do this towards you from a jealous co worker, teacher, politician, parents, societal narcissist etc etc.. Best thing to do is know what reality is in real time so doing hobbies and gardening, fix your room .. real things

[@ricksanchez9798]

@@warmongersCantBeTrusted gas lighting is how you start a bonfire....

[@catatafish22]

@@warmongersCantBeTrusted 😂

[@freethebirds3578]

I'm a Christian and a conservative. I love these conversations, because there are not enough people explaining how all of these ideas mesh and affect our world.

[@lewiscraw8294]

​@marciadroeger4434 A concern? It's more than a concern. What's coming is gonna be nothing compared to this

[@bbgun061]

@@lewiscraw8294 I don't know what comes next, but I know how it ends. Jesus wins.

[@LarsTragel-zh7ei]

The two clueless clowns in the video are funny.

[@WavveBoi]

​@@bbgun061Amen

[@terrifictomm]

Create a prompt that encapsulates these ideas and ask ChatGPT. The answer will mostly suck BUT it may spark your own thinking in these areas. That's what I'm using AI Chat bots for. It's exploding the boundaries of my current knowledge. Every new idea I get I feed back into Chad, my name for it. It's like riding a conceptual roller coaster or a gigantic Splash Mountain!

[@aaronb.4861]

I cannot state enough just how happy I am to see Dr. Peterson in such a healthy state. This was an absolutely fascinating conversation, and incredibly deep, and he looks to be at the top of his game! :)

[@Eric_Blair]

200% agreement with your assessment.

[@alexlimion2624]

Love the lobster jacket

[@ClayboyBR]

It is alarming how many people have given positive feedback, without the need to be specific of the praise. Makes my skin crawl to see that man slither around in that shell of a human.

[@ClayboyBR]

So many people still don’t even realize what dr Peterson is doing. Dear God, give these folks some critical thinking skills. Whew.

[@gussygrom8047]

@@ClayboyBRwhat’s he doing ?

[@gufbrindleback]

Today I watched a discussion on Marxism, by a mathematician and a man in a lobster suit, and it was the best thing I'd seen all day.

[@thomasreaves588]

You watch a discussion between a professional liar and a schizophrenic.

[@yarpenzigrin1893]

@@thomasreaves588 And yet these two are still more sane than the leftists.

[@thomasreaves588]

@@yarpenzigrin1893 No they are not!

[@gg_rider]

@@thomasreaves588 you're on a mission!! We need to get a law passed that makes it illegal to read Marxist tracts and books, word for word, for anyone who refuses to embrace and celebrate Marxism. How about a death penalty for criticizing Marxism? Oh, Red Terror has always been a core part of Marxism. Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin agreed. I think Marx favored mass killing too.

[@ronfox5519]

​@@thomasreaves588 But Darwin and Marx were honest and sane?

[@stefaniecolapinto]

I’m just a simple seamstress from Belgium, so I don’t understand all the terms, but these conversations hit me so hard because I do believe in God, and seeing that these extraordinary smart people are trying to get to the core of the worlds problems are -to their own surprise- finding that when it comes down to it, we can’t get around God and that His guidelines are actually something to consider to make this world better, to me is such beautiful proof of Him inbedding His wisdom in His creation. It’s also proof of both of you seeking true righteousness. God bless both of you and your families.

[@H4ymaker]

I have learned so much listening to this conversation. I have had to stop multiple times and go read and get a firm grasp on post-modernism, which lead me to univocity of being. I went and watched videos of people explaining epistemology and what knowledge is and ideas or subjects that we can or cannot be certain of. Then coming back and listening to this conversation again and again, it just opened up my mind. It was refreshing, like breathing pure clean oxygen, it opened up my senses like smelling salts.

[@BrennanWayneLuther]

That’s exactly how we stop western civilization from being destroyed by these ideas. Ordinary people taking the time to read and learn. One of us at a time. We all just have to say no to collectivist tyranny.

[@samhand8270]

OK, I need much much more collaboration between these two! This is probably my favorite podcast in years!

[@zengokigyh]

No way man, the somewhat recent cosmology one is the gem.

[@T_Fizzle]

​@@zengokigyhI'm very curious. Could you please tell me what episode you're referring to?

[@jesuschristislord77733]

Same.

[@ty2]

@@jesuschristislord77733one more haha

[@giaatta9303]

Me. And I understand the words of the intellects.

[@locutus2962]

Wow, these two are really great together. I've followed Jordan and James for years now, but this is the first time I've seen them have a conversation. Their respective expertise really compliment each other. Very interesting discussion.

[@Aiks777]

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[@beatrizcorrea5618]

I feel like we need a part 2 of this episode 😂 there were so many things they talked about and I just wanted them to continue. Hopefully we’ll see these two together soon.

[@millennialmadness5138]

I bet we’ll see them partner up in the future. You can tell Dr. Peterson was excited during this conversation. He just made a new friend.

[@halbodb]

I agree 100% If we can convince them to have a regular talk show. It will be fascinating!

[@astraldog3359]

I feel i can't keep up with these two brilliant minds talking together 🤩

[@inyoungchoung]

James Lindsay is so underrated!! He should be more everywhere!!

[@TheMary0831]

Let's hope he will be.

[@Violet_Lotus_]

he's gettin' there.

[@TheMary0831]

@@Violet_Lotus_ It is amazing how far people can go when they tell truth to power in a time when people are desperate for it.

[@DonBelial]

He was so good in the EU parliament. I love that the conservative political institutions in Europe start to understand what's going on

[@vanessadowney3593]

Recently found Dr James and he is top shelf!

[@nickyredfern5481]

James Lindsey, & Jordan Peterson are outstanding.

[@biblicalworldview1]

James has been such a blessing in helping me understand the source and philosophy behind the various facets of wokeism (critical theory). I love Jordan, but I get annoyed when a guest is saying aomething good and he interrupts. I'm so glad James is doing well financially, because his work is priceless. I'm happy to be a supporter and encourage others to join me.

[@blujay9191]

I know what you mean.. Dr P does nterrupt his guests a lot but I give him a pass since his interjections are always relevant and usually some of the best parts of the dialogue.

[@sagegallagher]

Did you catch that James said when he was proposing that the privileged be sent to the back, that they would talk over them and not let them finish their sentences. I think he was trying to subtly signal to JP to stop doing it to him!

[@newutopians]

I made this point in a separate comment: this is the first time with the many JP interviews I've seen where his interruptions really are a drag on the whole conversation. Sometimes his interjections expand the talk but most often in this case it's just him dragging a fascinating conversation back down to his typical interests, logos, religion, axioms. Poor JL - who we've all come to here to see - has to sit patiently and wait till he can speak again. Just like us. I wish JP had been more respectful. And silent.

[@domusardet4961]

My impression of the podcasts is that they're intended to be conversations more than interviews. At times I even find myself wanting to jump in, lol

[@mc.8391]

I feel the same as you. No matter how great Peterson is, he has this tendency to overspeak others. James Lindsay is articulate and leaves space for others....

[@Maridu01]

There is nothing James Lindsay has said or written I haven’t devoured. He is a genius and is changing the world and ridding it of woke one mind at a time. I am eternally grateful to him as I am to Dr. Peterson. This talk was a real gift. They just keep on coming and like that evil will be defeated.

[@fukluk88]

Yes, I believe Dr. Lindsey is the foremost learned voice in both understanding and countering to defeat the Woke Marxist revolution.

[@jeffreyphillips9121]

This is now my most favourite episode! What an awesome discussion. such clarity and so engaging. I was so sad when it ended. Thank you James (and your wife) for listening to that internal voice that invited you to take the path you’ve taken. You’re message is powerful and so needed. Jordan, please have him back again! Listening to you two talk back and forth was like hearing an improvised jazz masterpiece. More

[@dandee6331]

What a discussion. It's poetic that these conversations are happening on alternate media where as the McDonald's fed legacy media provides absolute nonsense on the boob tube.

[@ronfox5519]

For sure. TVculture is dying and with it goes a major chunk of the globalists power.

[@TheHumbleCarpenter]

This is one the most compelling and thought provoking interviews I’ve seen yet. James Lindsay is highly underrated as a modern day intelectual. The man is extraordinary. Of course, Dr. Jordan Peterson is and will always be #1 in my heart. Thank you, Dr. Peterson, for conducting this interview. I thoroughly enjoyed it. In fact, I just finished listening to it for the second time. God bless you both.

[@johncassidy3071]

The Hegelians and the Marxists have long had the franchise to determine what is "intellectual" and what is not.

[@stephencirving]

I am grateful there is a platform for intelligent people to thrive and share their message.

[@gigigiggs11]

but he’s not a real intellectual because he’s not a marxist! 😅 /s

[@MisSkeeto]

L

[@MisSkeeto]

.. L oi

[@lindajames7759]

The EU speech was incredible. I actually now understand the origins of Wokeism. Wow, it is huge and terrifying and perfect in its construction. You two are awesome 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@vickils9571]

❤This conversation was spectacular, the chemistry between Jordan and James was electric, they seem to have similar humor, and I got the sense at times they were each filling in the knowledge gaps of the other.

[@SnoWhite2420]

I don’t want it to end!!

[@666atyler666]

This conversation should be the opening class for a new discipline taught to all high school students. Imagine the intellectual trajectory we could create.

[@richardlefaive1944]

They are probably the two academics who have read the core literature and history behind critical theory mostly deeply. They understand it best and can call out its BS most clinically and fully. They seemed to spiral and feed off each other. There is a great Oxford discussion between JBP and the late Sir Roger Scruton.

[@grandwizardnoticer8975]

​@Jason Hardin *totalitarian internationalism, more specifically, with totalitarian nationalism being a subset.

[@weirdmosquito9539]

Thanks Dr JBP for this stunning piece of intellectual work! Keep up the good work !

[@scottlarson8364]

This conversation isn't just a lot of food for thought... its a seven course meal of analysis, served-up in heaping helpings of insight, clarity, expertise, history and experience, with a whole gravy-boat full of knowledge slathered on top. Compliments to the chefs!

[@cindihunter9119]

Well stated... ❤

[@llloydhoffman3431]

I agree...problem is now I'm hungry😎

[@TerrellWillams]

Great comment! I’ve was thinking something very similar.

[@JP_AZ]

😂😂 👍💯💯

[@shareeburbank2836]

I know that I already said this about the Jordan Peterson's interview with Jeff Sandefer, but This episode with James Lindsay was the best that I've listened to, to date. Thank you, Doctors Peterson and Lindsay for all that you do.

[@philosopherking3764]

Now *that's* legitimate pluralism!

[@leroyhayes3251]

I have to agree, quite possibly the best guest yet.

[@headrowacademy5181]

Agreed

[@millerjarrell]

I hope they do more together! Jordan seemed to be enjoying himself a lot during their conversation. Tracing everything back to Hegel and then gnosticism is extremely interesting.

[@gaussminigun]

Its funny how a "extreme right winger" the left claims jbp to be understands hegel way better than those silly left cucks

[@ploughjogger]

This is one of the most inspiring interviews from JP. So many lessons on adversity and courage packed in this interview. I need to listen again.

[@hegemonycricket2182]

Back to hegel in this conversation, but it goes back further through Kant and Rousseau. Lindsay has spoken at length about the through-line from Rousseau to marx and our current marxist derivatives. Fascinating stuff. His podcasts about gnosticism and hermeticism are really interesting, going back even further.

[@dannybrown5205]

This discussion needs to be continued. This is a potent combo

[@billboyd03]

That is a great idea.

[@valgerurjonsdottir1096]

Do another interview with Dr. Lindsay ... Please, and let him tell us more

[@rogerdodger1790]

Very

[@LarsTragel-zh7ei]

Impotent.

[@skipdreadman8765]

​@@LarsTragel-zh7ei Tell us you're a malignant narcissist without telling us you're a malignant narcissist, Lars.

[@adriennewright7697]

An amazing conversation between two people willing to ask the hard questions.

[@Christina0528]

This was one of the very best conversations I’ve ever listened to - I’m now a James Lindsay fan and will be delving into his work. I’ll be listening to this one again!

[@slickmechanical]

Dr. Lindsay has a huge rabbit hole to go down. I think the most important ones to get as a foundation are the explanation of Hegel, Marxism as religion, and his series exposing how both are Hermetic and Gnostic, and what that means practically. That's 20 hours of listening right there. After you get that down everything makes more sense

[@Christina0528]

Thanks for the tip.

[@Christina0528]

Thanks for the guidance; I’m listening to his recent address to the European Parliment right now.

[@natashamiller4860]

@@slickmechanical I would say that you are spot on with your synapses of the most important points to focus on.

[@spirogiannaki]

You should not be fan to a person. Be fan to Jesus, to God to Holy spirit. He gothers money.

[@defaultytuser]

Whenever I listen to James, I hear a man who is walking a path of wisdom. A journey not without pain, tears and fears, that nonetheless grounds the pilgrim in the peaceful state of presence shared by all who pursue the noblest of causes: truth. May that journey take him to safe havens!

[@RetroGameRepublic]

I loved James's speech to the EU parliament. I recommend it to everyone who wants to know what is going on in the world at the moment. It explains the culture war and Wokeness so perfectly and so succinctly.

[@tedsess3106]

Two of the best thinkers of the 21st century together! It was excellent. Nearly two hours and it seems like they were just getting started. I hope they will do more together.

[@mikeroberts314]

😊😊😊

[@keithremedy]

James seems to be the only academic to talk about hermeticism and alchemy being intertwined with globalism & the philosophy of the bourgeoisie/elite

[@leroyrodgers6089]

I cannot believe this is for free on the internet. Bless both of you. Just incredible, high-level conversation. Made me feel smart that I understood most of this!

[@stefanielozinski]

I’m so glad James Lindsay is getting more exposure. I have known of him from Twitter for a few years, but never dug into him seriously. A friend from church urged my husband and I to listen to him and I am so glad I listened! He’s brilliant. And I hope he finds Jesus and His Holy Catholic Church ❤

[@frigoff1841]

I hope he gets to know Jesus, but steers as far away from Catholic Church as possible.

[@patriciatehaate236]

​@@frigoff1841definitely 😅stay away

[@meredithtwiss6037]

@@frigoff1841in the creeds, catholic means “universal”

[@SeraphsWitness]

@@meredithtwiss6037 Well yea, I'm not sure that's how the OP meant it.

[@wendellbabin6457]

Have you J. Lindsay's podcast on Fereira about the woke infiltration of same Catholic Church via Vatican II, I think it was. Connections to the Red Bishop in the 60s as well as Uncle Klaus and the WEF "crew?", "cartel?", "Supreme Soviet?", "Politburo?". Still not sure which name fits them best. Evil horde maybe? Barbarians INSIDE the gates? Or maybe as JBP called them out "Legion". I guess they escaped their Herd of Swine.

[@Hugothester]

I love how KZbin has allowed us to listen to these impressive intellectual exchanges from people living in the opposite side of the world.

[@offshoretomorrow3346]

Only if you don't contradict youtube's Woke-Marxist misgendering ideology.

[@LtColwtf]

It is a bizarre world we live in. Thank God.

[@eswn1816]

Yea... I'm in SW China...

[@parkloqi]

KZbin is provisionally allowing this conversation until they decide to further tighten the screws on “trust and safety.”

[@dogg92]

Don't give KZbin too much credit. They'd censor him if they could but luckily he is too big to cancel.

[@RosetheHat23]

What a treat to see these two minds together! Thanks gents!🙏

[@adelemartin6322]

Knocked it out of the park on this one. Astounding and brilliant, and went to unexpected places with quite a few 🤯 moments. I'm going to listen to it again to make sure I got everything. Well done!

[@garagavia]

I'm not a Christian nor a conservative. This kind of conversation is very important to me. We have the responsibility to do what we can to help. We can make it better if we work together, and speak the truth

[@viperlux]

It really clicked for me when Lindsay said Marxism may very well be an heretical offshoot of Christianity through Hegel and in turn through Marx. That's the religious aspect I've felt all along through these post modern ideologies. I've been learning so much since 2020 and can finally understand and follow these conversations fully. I often get the side eye when I go into these topics because Marxism is very hard to explain and discuss with people without sounding like a lunatic. This has freed my mind.

[@paradigmshift7541]

i still struggle to explain marxism, didnt learn much about it in school

[@chaucerianfraud6767]

Marxists love to be misunderstood because then they are not held accountable for what they say.

[@sanriosonderweg]

@@paradigmshift7541 because it doesn't matter, the footsoldiers don't read it either, and James cannot acknowledge his beloved civil rights regime along with disparate impact are the root of the problem.

[@ericthegreat7805]

Marxism is basically Christianity without having God or the fall of man to limit humanity from what is possible. Ironically, it is the fall of man which came back to bite Communism in the USSR and China.

[@diegocolomes]

Look for author Nicolai Berviaev, he was maybe the first to say Marxism was a Christian heresy (in the sense of the Christian heresies of the Middle Ages)

[@leahhanderson3737]

It warms my heart to hear these two speak. I am so proud of James, my fellow Tennessean.

[@foxtrotjulietbravo5536]

Go Vols!

[@kimchimasala]

YES! An in-depth conversation with James has been in order for some time now. I don't think there's another public figure as knowledgeable and as active in the fight against radical progressive ideology. Thank you Dr. Peterson for finally making this happen.

[@josephl6289]

This man is a great example of what Peterson has been teaching since I can remember: Be a person who takes on your burdens, with responsibility and see what happens. What an awesome success story.

[@Apenokillape]

It is emotional when you hear the truth from people who genuinely seek it.

[@glennjohn3824]

It's emotional because you're living in a shallow egotistical world... you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free 🙏❤🇺🇲

[@gigabuyceps]

​@@meatrackgamesroflmao you are a uncleaned room troll here with 0 specific detailed argument😅

[@irynasakharchuk7044]

agree

[@darrenpursuingtruth2895]

Two of the most important voices of our time here in conversation. Their contribution in exposing corruption (masquerading as compassion) and arming people with the knowledge to both understand and counter bad ideas is greatly appreciated.

[@denverdon3450]

You should look a little deeper into the people Jordan has in his group "A.R.C." that is supposed to be against the N.W.O.

[@tammys8711]

Only 25 minutes in and I realized…gonna have to listen 2 more times! Truly thankful for James and Jordan.

[@jamescollier3]

yes. high level coming for sure

[@oambitiousone7100]

Listen to Jordan’s Genesis lectures. It’s brain carbonation! I sometimes felt out of my body, so deep in thought.

[@jeffscottkennedy]

One of the things I love about JP’s interviews is that he always ends up being his own guest 😂

[@jeannestewart3636]

Yes!

[@HalMan]

So true! I’m still trying to work out if it’s part of his therapy technique or lack of interviewer self awareness… he interrupts a lot too… don’t know what I think about it 😅

[@jeffscottkennedy]

@@HalMan I think it’s that he is so excited to be chatting with another intellectual, he can’t wait to share what he’s learned.

[@doctordapp]

His interviews are talks on a higher level. No name calling, just thoughts and conclusions. Like your brain should function.

[@jimiboi87]

He’s the anti-Rogan in that way lol

[@Jackjohnjay]

James is incredible. Rarely is Jordan matched, even surpassed, in pure intellectual ability.

[@jamescollier3]

yeah. I expect a high vocab discussion

[@leonardticsay8046]

@@jamescollier3sure. The opposite of the theoretical jargon offered up by the magical-thinkers.

[@tensevo]

I think you are correct

[@m.thousands1848]

I wouldn’t say surpassed…

[@jamesarkanovi9038]

Except when Jordan talking about Marx or Foucault which is always painful to watch 😂

[@alandestephano7606]

We should all be grateful to dr. Peterson for continuing to do this. I know it must be hard on him and his family to continually put himself in the front lines of the culture war. Thank you JBP

[@dimitriosfromgreece4227]

I have 100% RESPECT for jordan peterson 🙏❤️ love from sweden Stockholm

[@kellyhorsley3229]

Dr. Peterson, I LOVE your suit! So glad your health has recovered and you're back tackling life's biggest issues. Keep up the good work!

[@andrewharchar891]

is that lobsters on his jacket.

[@elinarakhmilevich4343]

Thanks!

[@domihase8148]

That was one of the greatest interviews I've ever listened to. I was totally engaged the whole time. I'm shocked about some things I learned today. Thank you very much for this great conversation. :)

[@ambition112]

0:00: 📚 Dr. James Lindsey discusses the evolution of Marxism into various oppressor/oppressed ideologies and its influence on modern culture. 9:32: 💡 The conversation explores the relationship between post-modernism and new Marxism, highlighting the skepticism of meta-narratives and the focus on power dynamics and oppression in social interactions. 19:24: 📚 The discussion delves into the relationship between power, gnosticism, and the battle between Cain and Abel in the context of the culture war. 30:00: 👨‍🎓 The speaker left academia after completing a PhD in math and chose not to apply for academic jobs due to the university's focus on student retention rather than merit. 38:05: 📚 The speaker shares their journey from being a massage therapist to getting involved in academic activities. 46:46: 📚 The speaker discusses their project of using GPT to write academic papers and their background in mathematics and the humanities. 55:42: 📚 The speaker became motivated to criticize the corruption in academia after reading a paper that attacked scientific methodology and promoted feminist perspectives in glaciology. 1:05:07: 📚 The scientific enterprise is embedded in the Judeo-Christian project, and the axioms of a conceptual system are fundamentally religious. 1:13:26: 🗣 Jonah's story is about how God warns him about the people of Nineveh deviating from the straight and narrow path. 1:22:17: 💡 The speaker discusses the importance of speaking up and not holding one's tongue when called upon to speak. 1:31:27: 😱 The speaker discusses the idea of a 'great narrative' for a better future, which involves centralization of power, transformation of society, and global cooperation, all managed by elites. 1:39:44: 🤡 The speaker discusses the concept of Net Zero and the absurdity of having 170 goals, highlighting the lack of cost-benefit analysis and the negative consequences of certain environmental policies. 1:48:48: 🗣 The importance of humility and gratitude in resisting becoming monstrous and prideful. Recap by Tammy AI with useful time stamps

[@joonasmakinen4807]

Great work! I hope this gets sticky!

[@cristinacidade31628C]

Thank you 🙏

[@markmajkowski9545]

NICE timestamping for others. I understand Lindsay is a mathematician who as an exercise tried to reverse engineer academic papers and wrote many “fakes” successfully. Almost like “mapping” the content of what get approved-then he determined which “words” meant pretty much the same thing - almost like a linguistic factor analysis that takes language and tries to treat the concepts as factors - I think a factor analysis model is more apt than “genus / species” but there isn’t really a way to map English to math - yet - which AI might “try”. Key issue between math and English - I say is no mathematicians argue about what an “=“ is - but the powerful will negotiate what “is” is to its benefit. Control the language. I disagree that it’s a theological infrastructure - it’s a “POWER” hierarchy - not a COMPETENCY one. Maybe a theological infrastructure implies DOGMA you cannot question but behind that is POWER decides - not “you”

[@miltonwelch4177]

So true! Remove Marx and we all be back enjoying the 50's US life style.

[@kamw8860]

Wow. Thank you.😊

[@jiwoo-k]

What a conversation, I cannot believe this is true. Peterson's crew, Mikhaila, the agents of both, please make more collaborations between Jordan Peterson and James Lindsay. I am so grateful for everybody who made this a reality.

[@richardlee985]

These gentlemen are intelligent and highly respected for waking up America 🇺🇸 to truth .

[@alaia-awakened]

These 2 are completely aligned intellectually, what a pleasure to watch!

[@petesake1181]

Is this irony? Not sure

[@wowser44]

It’s like watching 2 of the best frozen yogurts trying their best not to melt to remain punching us with hard cold truths lol

[@freddieoblivion6122]

This was the one - f*cking unbelievable.

[@imogenrex6286]

Yes, but they're sitting uncomfortably close - awkward to watch - I wonder why?

[@wowser44]

@@imogenrex6286 like watching chemistry and other elements being alchemized in the flesh. I wonder what would good ole Manly P. Hall would say if he was was in the middle of this conversation. Rip MPH 🙏🏼

[@kewlbeone5949]

James is truly remarkable - his breakdowns are never off, based on my Ph.D. He knows and understands so much more than PhDs in the humanities or even econ.

[@spidgeb3292]

Humanitarians PhDs are often captured and corrupted by their time in universities, exposed as they were to monolithic thinking, as Dr. Lindsay describes. The difference is that Lindsay thinks through and understands both sides of the arguments, vs. being indoctrinated.

[@Hey_you_______x]

Neat

[@Jackjohnjay]

James deserves multiple honorary PhD’s in the history of thought, political theory, and philosophy.

[@kewlbeone5949]

@@Jackjohnjay and Econ

[@MattWestbrook]

As a fellow PhD in the social sciences, I couldn’t agree more

[@mysterion9686]

What an enjoyable coversation. Great to see Jordan light up when these two find suprising overlap in their work. Although it is not surprising in a deeper sense, because these two are honest truth seekers that occupy the same world; this clown world.

[@melissaradaker1128]

So right!

[@armadaministries6283]

As a former hermetic gnostic I can attest this argument is absolute truth. I first observed this truth when converting to true Christian faith after a near death experience during which I encountered Jesus Christ. After my conversion I instantly saw the world without the scales over my eyes, and the obvious spiritual battle that has been taking place for hundreds of years is constantly repeating. That which has been done will be done again, and there is nothing new under the sun.

[@ryan4327]

Ironically, one of the things that changed me from a militant anti-theist to a Christian is the intrusion of intersectional third wave feminism. It was an eye opener to see what feminism and wokeism was really about, which made me question many things including my own beliefs and lack thereof. Thanks feminism for turning me against you and helping me rediscover my faith!

[@karsgaming69]

i was not an anti-theist but used to be a non practicing christian that was more atheist in reality but for the same reasons as you I came back

[@6kine6tic67]

God bless both of y'all 🙏

[@JLuisCastaneda]

The madness of this world turned me from a practicing Buddhist with a vague belief in God into a happy evangelical Christian playing on the worship team.

[@ryan4327]

@@JLuisCastaneda Bless and welcome you! As I bring in elements of my former atheism, I hope you bring in elements of Buddhism. I believe that there are some overlaps between Buddhism and Christianity. I think that our explorations of different beliefs and traditions have served to deepen our spiritual journey and brought us to a more adult examinations of our faith and spirituality. I hope that yours is fulfilling and your relationship with God closer.

[@PurpleMusicProductions]

I had that exact same experience and result. While I am not Christian I now believe in God.

[@rose-mariemukarutabana9001]

A brave man, is Dr Lindsay. We need many more like him. Thanks to Professor Peterson for bring him on.

[@ChawXDD]

While I agree, I think the reality is that we need more people like you or I, and for them to be honest even though it's scary. It's great to have public intellectuals who speak sense again, but it's not enough to just have public intellectuals. They can only lead us to water.

[@ThePontificatingAHole]

I'm trying, but my voice is tiny, and no one is listening...

[@yourheinness9275]

Hey never ever let go of the truth. You keep on telling the truth you thing nobody is listening but you and me make a lot of other people come out and speak the same truth. I feel like you too. But the more I have shared this with people the more I realise that the majority of people think the same but don’t say it. Just keep on saying it.

[@lauramertens9228]

Most important interview of our time. I am a 62 year old massage therapist and have fallowed you both closely. As a woman I know I’m unusual but I am called by God and don’t give a crap what others think about me. I do care passionately what they think of God and others. It is time to SPEAK! Thank you both for being men of deep compassion and conviction. Avoid the fish.

[@aussieman8738]

Hi Laura. I am 63 year old male. We are living in a clown world. A lot people relations friends acquaintances we have too drop off. The only I see is preparing for death and hoping GOD is there when that happens. All the Satanic elites who control our world through all the useless goverments and Freemasons will be going to a special downstairs with their leader Lucifer

[@JoneThePwn]

What do you mean by avoid the fish? I'm very interested.

[@ohthankg-dforthebourgeoisi9800]

@@JoneThePwn Part of the interview was a discussion about Jonah, not following God’s will to preach to Ninevah, by keeping silent, he ended up almost drowned and then was swallowed by “a great fish “ which is analogous to going to hell. The meaning according to Jordan is holding your tongue when you need to speak out against evil, you will end up in a worse, a hellish, existence.

[@halbodb]

Jordan and James you are the beacons of sanity in the world of clowns and pure evil! Please continue your conversation again and again. 👏👏🙏

[@ziggystardust3060]

Ah, I love this analogy! 'beacons of sanity in a world of clowns'. I'm going to keep that one! ❤

[@SyringeSem]

We already need a part 2 of this. James is special

[@iurysl]

I am amazed by the depth of this conversation. Wonderful! I could listen to these two for hours.

[@patriciaobrien771]

I think you just did. 😆😉

[@PlainsPup]

So glad to see Jordan Peterson and James Lindsay in dialogue now. Both are phenomenal.

[@ed379]

By and far the best podcast Jordan has done in months.

[@brians9794]

I can't even begin to describe how excited I am to see this conversation finally happen!

[@Chris-Pringle]

It is a blessing to have these men summarizing their work for us to feed off it. Thank you for all your hard work and keep it up. We need you now more than ever.

[@victorburnett6329]

I think this is most important philosophical discussion I have ever experienced. Thank you both.

[@lauraf.2450]

This is the best interview that you have done. (so far) Both you (Dr Peterson) and Dr Lindsay were awesome. I could of listened to you both for hours. What a dance. This might be the interview that pushes me to get a daily wire subscription.

[@lesliepage3886]

For me it’s Peterson and Knowles.

[@calvinheadley5218]

Two intellectual giants. What a engrossing and thought provoking conversation! I've only recently discovered James Lindsay and I am not ashamed to say that I am a Lindsian. His analysis of Critiical Theory is stellar.

[@Fees-Shed]

Please do this again 🙏🏻 I’m not on your intellectual levels but I followed everything perfectly 👍🏻 thank you

[@May_Lease_Uh]

Maybe that means you are.

[@thescalemodeldad]

If you followed, than you understand the magnitude of what's at stake here, which means your intellect is absolutely perfect. Those that click dislike, know nothing or even care of the upcoming events, what we call blind ignorance, these are the ones of a lower intellectual level.

[@theresehengst9234]

I can relate to Dr. Lindsay's journey so much ... 43:30ish.... getting beat up by life..... It can make you bitter (or break your spirit, give up, etc).... This is where i am exactly!!!!

[@urthpainter]

Big fan of Lindsay - hope he continues to prosper in whatever life avenues he chooses.

[@melissaradaker1128]

These two are a true force. The knowledge, forthrightness, and humility are fresh and astounding.

[@JimJamJuicy]

@@OkayBoomer-o9fyou’re a ding dong haha

[@BBrunswick]

@@KZbinmusic-oc2yqyou keep posting the same stuff. Curious. Why should that be ok?

[@JimJamJuicy]

@@Rocksteady246 nobody cares about your slander 😜

[@JimJamJuicy]

@@Rocksteady246 you’re an NPC with nothing better to do who’s obviously jealous of Peterson’s success. Work on your own life. Clean your own room if you will lol

[@BBrunswick]

@@Rocksteady246 you know fine well. Besides why should anybody be without fault? But character assassination is much easier than actually refuting what either have said so why not give a shot? Peterson taught at Harvard University and Lindsay is a mathematician with a PhD from Tennessee university. These are impressive academic credentials, moreover Lindsay with Pluckrose and Boghossian authored the so called Sokal squared hoaxes which showed how corrupted certain fields in academia have become (the grievances studies). Their conversation was fascinating since Lindsay has evolved from the new Atheist movement to critique the degeneration of the left with its obsession with identity politics. A new totalitarian impulse has made its way into the mainstream - just look how JK Rowling or Kathleen Stock have been treated. If in doubt listen to Konstantin Kisin Even in my field (dentistry) I have seen the infiltration of CRT.

[@lorirwilson]

This is the conversation I’ve been waiting for.

[@2GunRock]

Me too. For months I've been hoping JP and James Lindsay would finally have a meeting of the minds.

[@sallyspianochannel5034]

Refreshing to see these two converse ---- thank you both.

[@microcolonel]

This conversation is the most effective therapy I have ever received. I too am getting my ass kicked by life right now, and I am terrified to see myself in Cain, even just a little... I have also been a coward and stopped defending the truth in public because I've been trying to get hired by other cowards. It stops today.

[@danarnold8760]

Wow, what a transformation, good luck in your new found determination.

[@kylecoleman1281]

Cheering for you

[@ellenpereira9521]

Amen! May God give you strength and courage to go against these cultural waves. I was in a similar place of what you've described and am slowly changing. Things are really different now, for the better. I no longer feel intimidated or confused or in doubt. Cheering for you too 😄

[@BertWald-wp9pz]

Great to see these two not just having a discussion but really connecting. I like the way Jordan uses his insights into psychology to open up a better appreciation of James and progress a number of threads they are both engaged in exploring. The subjects are not closed but fertile for development.

[@huskermike8096]

YESSSSS I have been wanting these two to have a talk for a long time. Maybe like 2 years! So excited to watch this.

[@yolandasteinke6306]

So interesting and entertaining. Thank you both. I feel smarter just by listening to these two gentlemen.

[@Neongelb]

I have been waiting for this conversation for so long. Thank you Jordan for taking the time to talk to James Lindsay again. This conversation has gripped me more than anything else in recent time, I was at the edge of my seat !

[@JasonSilverMusic]

Thanks Jordan, for being so faithful and consistent both in your message and to your viewers. I would sure love the opportunity to talk with you face-to-face!

[@madness9070]

Two of my favorite people together! I learn more every day from each of you.

[@radagast7200]

Me too. Love these guys. James has definitely helped me to understand the pathology that is leftism.

[@hypoxictraining]

Thanks

[@JasonAStillman]

I love nothing more than to watch two brilliant and honest people hash it out, bring their perspective, expertise and insight to the matter at hand..

[@theluminousmind8297]

It was a great pleasure listening to two great minds!

[@nickcrider4309]

I have listened to days and weeks worth of hours of both of theme guys and I must say, even after bing very familiar with their work, this was a great episode. Very enjoyable. Both of them where instant with their thoughts in a very clear way.

[@Sanity-sv1gm]

4576 comments, wow!!!! So many smart people, so great!! I have listened to Dr. Lindsay's lectures (about 6 of them so far) this is the first conversation I have heard of him and also Jordon.....What a skilled interviewer Jordon is and also participant. It sometimes felt like a therapy session for James. These guys are off the charts. Sharing this book: The Great Partnership: Science, Religion, and the Search for Meaning by Rabbi Jonathan Sacks (Chief Rabbi of England, may he rest in peace). This book is absolutely a must read! It is a great addition to this conversation.

[@Steadyaim101]

Pertaining to the point at 1:10:45, I'm a recent Ph.D. graduate in Organizational Psychology. I applied to over 30 institutions across Canada and the USA. Over half told me they would either prioritize or only higher BIPOC and women and that I shouldn't have applied due to my skin colour. All of them required me to write a statement on how my research in psychometrics and statistics somehow supported DEI initiatives. I had friends coach me to say I was either gay or part-indigenous to get past the algorithms. Absolutely ridiculous. I ended up giving up on academia altogether and finding work in the industry. I now tell every graduate student who asks to absolutely avoid academia, especially if they can't fit a diversity quota.

[@Alacard0malley]

The conversation that's been the longest time coming. Finally

[@RafeKelley]

Absolutely

[@DevonPatrick16]

This was one of the best interviews I’ve seen in a while. Two brilliant men talking about a deep and dangerous topic

[@cassiasnow]

When James started talking about math, I found a part of myself. My degree in math and my total obsession with philosophical understandings makes me wonder about myself. Thank you James Lyndsay

[@tribebuddha]

I am not a Christian by a long shot but dang! Do I love Dr. Jordan B Peterson or what? A truly inspiring man! A man whose character is worth emulation. ❤ This is the collab I always wanted but never knew I wanted!

[@TheReelTuesdayChannel]

Thank you! Took you long enough to have James on your show but I cannot wait to watch!!

[@KennyGiven]

💙

[@offshoretomorrow3346]

It's striking how little leaders of the enlightenment resistance communicate with each other. Furedi contradicted Lindsay's entire rationale at their EU presentation - because they'd never prepared together!

[@TheHangedMan]

What is this, a crossover episode?! So glad you finally had Lindsay on, the man is a champion

[@thenarrowpathoftruth9443]

This was absolutely amazing. I was riveted the entire time. Not one single boring moment.

[@gangalo68]

This is one of the best conversations I’ve heard in a very long time. The chemistry between them is remarkable. And my brain turned in to a sponge to absorb all the knowledge and wisdom they shared.

[@daryltownsley4562]

Dr. Lindsay, I'm so glad you have read and understood and incorporated to your own work the writings of Eric Voegelin. About 40 years ago my husband and I heard Voegelin at Boston University and being in that hall and listening to him can only be remembered as a spiritual experience. We knew we were listening to some of the most profound and truest of ideas. We always wanted his writings to be more widely read and promoted. We are always encouraging others to read Voegelin. We've read several of his works and the writings of Barry Cooper who advances Voegelin's thought. Kuddos to you for really going true and deep in your analysis.