Asbestos City: How Libby Montana Killed It's Residents

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Into the Shadows

Into the Shadows

2 ай бұрын

Explore Libby, Montana's hidden tragedy. This picturesque town, nestled in the Kootenai River Valley, faced one of America's worst environmental disasters. Uncover the greed and negligence behind the asbestos exposure crisis.
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@WonderDerek
@WonderDerek 2 ай бұрын
I once worked on removing an asbestos roof. It was my boss, his nephew, and myself. We all just used N95 masks, but the back of my throat started hurting pretty bad about an hour or so after the removal started. I didn't say anything for another hour or 2, until it got pretty bad. I mentioned it to the boss, and his reaction was borderline panic. I didn't understand the dangers of asbestos at the time, but he clearly did. He then gave me an actual respirator to wear while we finished the work and my throat got better over the next hour or so. They continued just wearing the N95, even after seeing me swap to a respirator. It was the only asbestos roof I've ever donr and would never do one again. Asbestos is nuts.
@hollymcgrew4853
@hollymcgrew4853 2 ай бұрын
I hope you will be ok my dad worked with cars in the 80s and all they were given was basically surgical masks when dealing with asbestos and nobody wore them because it wasn’t considered “cool” not that they would have done anything he passed away in 2015 asbestos is a terrifying substance 😔
@wendychavez5348
@wendychavez5348 14 күн бұрын
@WonderDerek I'm glad you're still around to tell the tale. Do you get checked regularly, since you know you were exposed?
@BadBadger70
@BadBadger70 2 ай бұрын
The same thing happened in Wittenoom, Australia. The mining for blue asbestos in that town was shut down in 1966, and by the late 70's the Australian government shut down the entire town after they realised it's impossible to clean up the dust. In 2007 they officially removed Wittenoom from all maps and road signage..... if you happen to stumble across the area today you are met with signs simply saying "Danger! Asbestos in this Area. Cancer and Lung Disease Hazard"
@kymcha
@kymcha 2 ай бұрын
A shame because the Wittenoom gorge is so pretty.
@saaraa7876
@saaraa7876 2 ай бұрын
In Russia too. There’s a town actually called Asbest there, cause they have nothing else going for them. Dmitri Utkin, the founder of the Wagner company, was born there. Used to house a gulag too, now the home of lung cancer. At least Australia told the people to leave.
@arthas640
@arthas640 Ай бұрын
​@@saaraa7876well yeah but that's Russia, it's weird when their government doesn't try to kill them. Their branch of the communist party killed nearly as many Russians as the germans did and way more then the US ever did.
@Dan-ry7ql
@Dan-ry7ql Ай бұрын
Bout to post this haha
@madenabyss6981
@madenabyss6981 Ай бұрын
The last person was evicted from Wittenoom In August/September 2022 in December 2022 a fire tore through the town destroying several buildings since then the town has been demolished forever but people still go up there
@dawulpertingerofstarland5257
@dawulpertingerofstarland5257 2 ай бұрын
Libby holds a dear place in my heart. Buldoc (WR Grace CEO) knew what he did to people. I watched several relatives gasp and wither away before my eyes. That crap settled on Libby like a fine snow. I would like to see a documentary on Butte, Montana as it is also a superfund site. Just know CEOs lie, people die.
@AllTheHappySquirrels
@AllTheHappySquirrels 2 ай бұрын
Same!
@robinmiller5256
@robinmiller5256 2 ай бұрын
A book titled ‘Libby ‘ is an excellent read. The author is Peacock and is from Livingston, Mt.
@scottclark7559
@scottclark7559 2 ай бұрын
Butte, America is the best city on earth...the way the Anaconda company (and its successor) made millions and left taxpayers cleaning up the toxic mess is criminal...but it's an amazing place. Truly one of a kind. What happened in Libby is also criminal...heartbreaking how companies kill people for profit.
@WowOafus
@WowOafus 2 ай бұрын
@@scottclark7559it’s even more heartbreaking that people we elect allow it to happen and promote it
@KevinBauman
@KevinBauman 2 ай бұрын
And yet, almost half of voters have been convinced that we should regulate corporations even less.
@aq5426
@aq5426 2 ай бұрын
I want to know who at WR Grace got to the jurors and pressured them to acquit. You can't tell me a jury of 12 people saw ALL THIS EVIDENCE and thought "nah, they didn't do anything."
@justmenotyou3151
@justmenotyou3151 2 ай бұрын
There was a WR Grace friendly judge that prevented a lot of evidence from being used in the trial. The prosecutors said they probably could not win the case with the suppression of the evidence, and they were right.
@davidbeppler3032
@davidbeppler3032 2 ай бұрын
Corrupt judges are nothing new. Even Supreme Court judges take bribes.
@BarackLesnar
@BarackLesnar 2 ай бұрын
​@@justmenotyou3151that's so interesting. What is the judge's name?
@justmenotyou3151
@justmenotyou3151 2 ай бұрын
@BarackLesnar I don't remember. However, if you'd some Google research, it should come up. That's how I found out.
@PikachuFan123456789
@PikachuFan123456789 Ай бұрын
​@BarackLesnar I believe it was U.S. District Judge Donald Molloy.
@arianamaria_
@arianamaria_ 2 ай бұрын
Having grown up in New Jersey one of my core memories is all the commercials on local television talking about how if you were in Manhattan on 9/11 you may be entitled to compensation if you were diagnosed with mesothelioma or asbestosis due to the massive amount of asbestos that was released when the towers fell. The dust cloud that hung over this city for months probably poisoned millions and we’re only now starting to see the full consequences of that
@user-wm3bf7pi3u
@user-wm3bf7pi3u 2 ай бұрын
THAT explains the repopulation efforts of NYC.
@Mr110074
@Mr110074 5 күн бұрын
I live in North Jersey. On car rides I still get radio ads on 1010 Wens about the compensation funds for 9/11 survivors encouraging EVERYBODY (not just first responders) who was there and later got sick to apply.
@OlogNogTheOnionLord
@OlogNogTheOnionLord 2 ай бұрын
I live in Montana. Not in Libby, but only 6-7 hours drive away. And even I was completely unaware of this incident for most of my life. The amount of awareness regarding this topic is tragic. Thank you for the video.
@StitchyMe
@StitchyMe 2 ай бұрын
Same! I grew up in Bozeman and never learned of any of this!
@buffetline2605
@buffetline2605 2 ай бұрын
I was just in Libby. Love Montana. You guys are lucky.
@calebbean1384
@calebbean1384 2 ай бұрын
I love how Montana is so big it's "just six hours away" lol. That would get you across my entire state 😅
@jpmountaingaming5681
@jpmountaingaming5681 2 ай бұрын
I also live in Montana and have never heard of this as well.
@xnakxx
@xnakxx 2 ай бұрын
Yup Same. I'm in Musselshell Co, I've took the 8 hour trip for gold panning a few times and never knew I was going to an area with such a past.
@BLARG09
@BLARG09 2 ай бұрын
My aunt just died of lung cancer there. She's lived there her whole life. She lived two weeks after diagnosis.
@monkiesbanana321
@monkiesbanana321 2 ай бұрын
So sorry for your loss
@Macho_Fantastico
@Macho_Fantastico 2 ай бұрын
Sorry for your loss. 😢
@plp666
@plp666 Ай бұрын
Am so sorry to hear this. 😢 2 weeks. Am a Coloradan and I wish our country cared more about its people. I can’t believe this is still happening in 2024.
@BLARG09
@BLARG09 Ай бұрын
@plp666 she had a cat scan and because the Dr only comes once a month she didn't know for 30days after. I couldn't understand why they didn't call her! They could have had that time to get prepared. Hospice took so long to bring a bed that it never made it there, and she spent her last week in a chair. I don't think people realize what it's like in medical desserts. And how many their are in the US.
@Baphomane
@Baphomane Ай бұрын
Sorry for your loss. Much love to you & your Family
@zeppy2732
@zeppy2732 2 ай бұрын
The song”Blue Sky Mine” by Midnight Oil is about Wittenoom a town devastated by asbestos mining in Australia.
@jezman8652
@jezman8652 2 ай бұрын
That was crocidolite aka Blue Asbestos. CSR were ultimately responsible for that mess, they knew of the dangers of mining the stuff but ignored them for the sake of their bottom line, the almighty dollar.
@brentmiller3951
@brentmiller3951 2 ай бұрын
I watched a documentary and they filled sand boxes with it .The asbestos there was blue and the kids in that sand box were blue from head to toe
@catoverlords9560
@catoverlords9560 2 ай бұрын
Great to see another Oils fan here. That entire album is a masterpiece.
@Joe_Dirt82
@Joe_Dirt82 2 ай бұрын
Was waiting for the "if you or a loved one" clip then remembered this is the 'grown-up' channel.
@leobeboop4944
@leobeboop4944 2 ай бұрын
If YOUUUUU or a loved oneeee was diagnosed with mesothelioma you may be entitled to compensationnn
@laneputman7098
@laneputman7098 2 ай бұрын
I swearrrr😂
@Montgumerz
@Montgumerz 2 ай бұрын
i'm so glad i wasn't the only one
@lovedabluesrocknroll
@lovedabluesrocknroll 2 ай бұрын
I felt guilty for laughing because it’s such an awful disease but that jingle is too good
@kirnupiimaa
@kirnupiimaa 2 ай бұрын
They still snuck in a sneaky "breathtaking landscapes" at 15:40
@Kangamoos
@Kangamoos 2 ай бұрын
My partner when to HS in Libby, and has had two unrelated forms of cancer, plus developed asthma and other congestive issues with their airway. We have been looking into ways to approach determining whether or not it was caused by living a decade in Libby, or just.. the worst luck ever.
@multipletanksyndrome
@multipletanksyndrome 2 ай бұрын
Does he know about the asbestos under the HS track?
@NightridingDoom
@NightridingDoom 2 ай бұрын
Definetly caused by Libby. I suggest getting a doctor who helps you sort out what damage asbestos has caused to her body. And then sue the fuck out of the government for failing to regulate
@Kangamoos
@Kangamoos 2 ай бұрын
@@multipletanksyndrome ah.. no. That's interesting
@deniseroe5891
@deniseroe5891 2 ай бұрын
Aah, loopholes, yes. My husband worked for a major defense contractor. About 15 years ago there was an accident in an autoclave where asbestos is still used. The bricks fell and were pulverized, sending dust everywhere. They ask everyone to sign an agreement that they wouldn’t file a claim against the company if they got sick. He didn’t sign it. My husband developed kidney disease, stage 4, CHF, AFib, and liver disease along with diabetes. He passed away in December at the age of 64. I can’t help but wonder if this exposure led to his health problems.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan 2 ай бұрын
That's the real problem, it leaves some reason for denial for these companies. People die all the time, so maybe it wasn't the asbestos? It's pretty horrendous.
@talizorahnarrayya5916
@talizorahnarrayya5916 2 ай бұрын
My grandfather worked in construction in the 60s and 70s. He had daily exposure with asbestos and his only protective gear was a wet rag. He died of lung cancer in 2018 after 3 years of battle. We never could link his cancer to his exposure to asbestos because he worked "under the table" for the majority of his time in the construction sector.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan 2 ай бұрын
@@talizorahnarrayya5916 Im sorry for your loss, its a shame that these large corporations always have a loophole get out of fail free cards. Its always the worker that gets ruined.
@PositiveOnly-dm3rx
@PositiveOnly-dm3rx 2 ай бұрын
None of those diseases are connected with asbestos tho... And being exposed to asbestos once wont do ANYTHING to you... you're acting like the people who claim smoking a single cigarette is an instant death sentence. That's not how anything works...
@PositiveOnly-dm3rx
@PositiveOnly-dm3rx 2 ай бұрын
​@@kyledabearsfanin India people work in asbestos up to their waists every day. Guess what the death rate is? It's not. It's literally the same as the rest of the country. You're scared of your own shadow...
@wendychavez5348
@wendychavez5348 Ай бұрын
My nephew passed away in November, 2023 of mesothelioma, probably related to exposure to asbestos. He was a top student at the New Mexico Institute of Mining & Technology, and did work in the mines while there. His 35th birthday was celebrated at his gravesite with family and friends, but only his memory. He went from saying, "My tummy hurts!" on Halloween to signing his will 2-1/2 weeks later. I'm still processing his loss. Thank you for helping me learn more about his life & death.
@martindobrev-u6j
@martindobrev-u6j 16 күн бұрын
@@wendychavez5348 he got mesothelioma at 35y..?
@martindobrev-u6j
@martindobrev-u6j 15 күн бұрын
how much time to develop mesothelioma at 35..
@wendychavez5348
@wendychavez5348 14 күн бұрын
He had some exposure to asbestos when he was a baby. During college, he did some work in the mines, which exacerbated things. But there were less than 3 weeks between the time we KNEW the problem existed & his death.
@AustinMcGrannLive
@AustinMcGrannLive 2 ай бұрын
As a life long Montanan and a big fan of yours Simon! Thank you!
@Blackfatrat
@Blackfatrat 2 ай бұрын
Major props to Poland which is the only country with a comprehensive plan to remove ALL asbestos from their country by 2032. My country hasn't used Asbestos since 1979(banned 82, but the building union agreed to stop the use earlier) but it's still in a fuck ton of buildings.
@JulietNerming
@JulietNerming Ай бұрын
motherland is incredible
@ShammaAzmi
@ShammaAzmi 26 күн бұрын
How are they removing it? What methods will they be using?
@Blackfatrat
@Blackfatrat 26 күн бұрын
@@ShammaAzmi you can either remove it from those specific buildings, with safety equipment etc or just tear down the buildings, which also requires you to be careful so its not breathed in.
@marshallkeiffer238
@marshallkeiffer238 2 ай бұрын
My parents grew up in this town. They remember riding in the back of a truck with a pile of it. They put that shit on everything. Walls for installation, gardens and yards for fertilizer. It was everywhere.
@the80hdgaming
@the80hdgaming 2 ай бұрын
I remember working for a contractor and running into a few older houses that had vermiculite in the walls for insulation...
@multipletanksyndrome
@multipletanksyndrome 2 ай бұрын
And sledding on piles during the summer
@sallyintucson
@sallyintucson 2 ай бұрын
Fertilizer! I never knew it was used for fertilizer.
@kassipojad3726
@kassipojad3726 2 ай бұрын
​@@sallyintucsondid you watch/listen to this video??
@snoox27
@snoox27 2 ай бұрын
It's only the dust particles that will fk you up
@samantha-jane4424
@samantha-jane4424 2 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Whittenoom in Western Australia and the absolute criminal negligience and devastation blue asbestos and the companies that mined and refined it caused. I wish Libby, Montana residents affected by this solidarity in their fight for justice and recognition.
@TorWalker1
@TorWalker1 2 ай бұрын
In Australia it was the Hardie company. The asbestos mining here was equally cirrupt and chasing consequences took decades.
@smalltime0
@smalltime0 2 ай бұрын
well... wittenoom is still condemned.
@duncancurtis5108
@duncancurtis5108 2 ай бұрын
You won't find Wittenoom on a map.
@VicInSthAus
@VicInSthAus 2 ай бұрын
@@duncancurtis5108 you can find it on google maps. But i think its only due to interest. A couple years ago it was "officially" no longer a town and meant to be removed from future maps
@markbeaulieu130
@markbeaulieu130 2 ай бұрын
In Canada we still use Hardie board. I won't work with it but many fellow tradesmen still swear by it.
@shgstewart4674
@shgstewart4674 2 ай бұрын
In Canada, the company was literally called "Asbestos Company." (We Canadians don't mess around when naming things.) The headquarters was in a town called Asbestos, Quebec. (We Canadians don't...) It's now called "Val-des-Sources" (Spring Valley). The Asbestos Company is still fighting to keep asbestos from being completely banned. Our record on this is horrible.
@justmenotyou3151
@justmenotyou3151 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Spokane Regional Clean Air Agency, the local body that regulates asbestos in Spokane County, states that vermiculite no longer needs to be sampled, just assume to be friable asbestos and abate it if you need to disturb it during demolition or renovation. Expensive.
@benparrish9547
@benparrish9547 2 ай бұрын
Puts us back a few grand when we bought a place in the valley
@aborch7
@aborch7 2 ай бұрын
If it wasn’t for Libby, I don’t think my town (Ambler, PA) would have gotten the attention it did from the EPA. Asbestos is crazy, it’s become a ~special interest~ of mine. Great video 💜
@victoriaeads6126
@victoriaeads6126 2 ай бұрын
Is the Ambler area asbestos issue related to the section of Valley Forge that is off limits because it used to be an asbestos mine?
@aborch7
@aborch7 2 ай бұрын
@@victoriaeads6126 nope, they were separate. Ambler’s asbestos manufacturer was Keasbey & Mattison, while Valley Forge was owned by Ehret. Both sites were locations where they’d quarry calcium & magnesium carbonate, which was needed to mix in to the asbestos that was hauled in from Canada 😊
@danielwimberly4940
@danielwimberly4940 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for bringing attention to this. Not very many know about this outside of our area.
@roberthaynes488
@roberthaynes488 2 ай бұрын
The book "An Air that Kills" by Andrew Schneider and David McCumber is about Libby Montana and is a great book. Goes into great depths as to exactly what happened there.
@rhondahankins4026
@rhondahankins4026 2 ай бұрын
I have that book. Yes it’s recommended reading for sure!
@ImaCatMaia
@ImaCatMaia 2 ай бұрын
This is the town that my husband grew up in! Both of his parents are buried there, and we've been to visit multiple times. We live about 8 hours away in western Washington. I love it - i's an absolutely beautiful place...quite a few huge mansions there as well. Part of the movie "The Revenant" (starring Leonardo DiCaprio) was filmed there, along with several other movies.
@kdjorgensen98
@kdjorgensen98 2 ай бұрын
Misleading title. It should read "How a corporation murdered its workers in pursuit of profit, again."
@paulbennett772
@paulbennett772 2 ай бұрын
This and the tobacco harm denial scandal, and others, exemplify why the USA is an uncivilised third-world country. Where honest workers are taken advantage of, paid pittances, while the big companies indulge in their greed for money. The most powerful people in the USA are lawyers, who line their pockets by winning lawsuits against people who can't afford to challenge them. It's a thoroughly rotten society where only the accumulation of money & therefore influence has any value. How glad I am to live in Europe.
@jb81600
@jb81600 2 ай бұрын
Yeah that and their insurance company for frauding the victims.
@kakyointhemilfhunter4273
@kakyointhemilfhunter4273 2 ай бұрын
So every corporation that's ever existed?
@lil_lizzy
@lil_lizzy 2 ай бұрын
Corporations are thankfully flammable
@brazensmusings2738
@brazensmusings2738 2 ай бұрын
@@kakyointhemilfhunter4273 In the US they have the law that supports such behaviour. At worst the corporation gets fined to bankruptcy, the decision makers can just setup shop under a new name with improved strategy to commit further murder for profit.
@DreamHooksFishing
@DreamHooksFishing 2 ай бұрын
I’ve worked in Eureka on and off over the years. I remember my first time driving to Libby. For a good hour or two I couldn’t figure out why such a scenic area was so desolate and why the housing was so cheap. It wasn’t until I switched over to the FM radio and started hearing ads regarding mesothelioma. Once I got back to Eureka I started asking around and almost everyone I talked to knew of a family member or friend that had suffered from the asbestos exposure. It really blew my mind.
@petergarayt9634
@petergarayt9634 2 ай бұрын
In the sixties there was a Manville asbestos plant in Scarborough Ontario Canada. A friend of mine who lived in the area told me they sometimes walked to school when 'something' from the plant was coming down on them like it was snowing.
@steinm02
@steinm02 2 ай бұрын
My home town, and related to my MS thesis. Great video, Simon and team!
@Onora619
@Onora619 2 ай бұрын
Asbestos has been a serious problem in the Hawaiian islands for generations, especially in largely concrete buildings like military and public school buildings. In the early 2000s (when I lived there) they had ONLY just begun to remove it from the walls and ceilings. At the time there was (and presumably still is) a standing lawsuit if you've developed asbestosis as a result of people cutting corners because it was cheap. My personal theory is that my mother may have developed lung cancer because of it. I believe it is all much safer now, but I've been gone for almost 20 years so I can't say for certain.
@Cecilpedia
@Cecilpedia Ай бұрын
I live in West Virginia, which is pretty infamous when it comes to unsafe building practices, especially in mining and fuel refinery towns. Over 70 percent of all houses in the state have lead paint somewhere in the house right now, and 90 percent have had lead at one point. My house has both lead and asbestos. Because of that, the attic is completely off limits.
@user-io9ie5cs8j
@user-io9ie5cs8j 2 ай бұрын
In the 1980s, I helped build the Fort Lewis Army Base above ground ammunition depot at Tacoma WA. I was on the asbestos installation team. A month's work at 4 times minimum wage of the time. 250k square feet. Every wall and ceiling. All of it, sprayed. I wasn't at the front of the "hose", so I wasn't issued a respirator; but we had suits/hoods. I went through heavy paper masks every 10 minutes, but tried once without. I started using them in 3 minutes. Again, this was the 1980s. I got paychecks for another 5 months. Overtime this and that etc. In 2013 we had a real scare. The doctor thought my breathing issues was mesothelioma, and ordered an endoscopy. It turned out it was a serious lung infection from dental work. I've lost 20% of my left lung to scar tissue. Thank God.
@martindobrev-u6j
@martindobrev-u6j 20 күн бұрын
u was diagnosed with mesothelioma and dr removed 20%of ur left lung and u are okay?😊
@user-io9ie5cs8j
@user-io9ie5cs8j 20 күн бұрын
@@martindobrev-u6j I think you misunderstood. 80s installed asbestos. 2013 serious left lung issues, suspected mesothelioma, and Doctors did endoscopy. Results showed it's actually a lung infection from dental work performed 2 months earlier. Once healed, the scar tissue covering 20% of my left lung rendered that same 20% completely nonfunctional for life. Does that help explain? Asbestosis and mesothelioma are still on the horizon. Thank you for your reply, Martin, I'm always grateful for the chance to talk with people
@scooby45247
@scooby45247 2 ай бұрын
this is why corporate regulations are important..
@dennisligma4958
@dennisligma4958 2 ай бұрын
Tell that to republican de-regulation big business people. Mainly gas companies but many hate more expensive safer options lol.
@scooby45247
@scooby45247 2 ай бұрын
@@dennisligma4958 dont forget insurance or big pharma or the NRA or any of the other lobbying corporations that buy congress.. vote progressive for progress..
@Nostripe361
@Nostripe361 2 ай бұрын
@@dennisligma4958 sadly people ignore long term safety for cheap products today
@Spooky_Platypus
@Spooky_Platypus 2 ай бұрын
Not according to the Supreme Court!
@mtheory85
@mtheory85 2 ай бұрын
Every regulation is written in blood.
@Lordrocky24
@Lordrocky24 2 ай бұрын
I was waiting the whole time for the Mesothelioma can-can. Been watching too much Brain Blaze.
@melissamargolese8782
@melissamargolese8782 2 ай бұрын
🎵If you or a loved one were diagnosed with mesothelioma you may be entitled to financial compensation…🎵
@EveryFairyDies
@EveryFairyDies 2 ай бұрын
I'm so proud of my work. Look at you all, waiting for the Can-Can!
@DedMan516
@DedMan516 2 ай бұрын
​@@EveryFairyDiesyou're a legend Lorelei
@EveryFairyDies
@EveryFairyDies 2 ай бұрын
@@DedMan516 As are you!
@DedMan516
@DedMan516 2 ай бұрын
@@EveryFairyDies aw shucks ma'am
@goffrd137
@goffrd137 2 ай бұрын
Locally we pronounce the area of Kootenai as koot-a-nee . I wonder if Simon can do a video about the Hanford Superfund clean up in Washington State next
@SamIAm1260
@SamIAm1260 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing when he said "ai". It was a nice chuckle before the terrible reality.
@benparrish9547
@benparrish9547 2 ай бұрын
When we bought our house in Spokane valley, about 2.5 hours ago, we had to have Libby vermiculite removed from our attic. Most the area’s old homes had Libby material
@enishigrudge
@enishigrudge 2 ай бұрын
Japan had been using asbestos as late as 2012 so when the Noto earthquake happened, I noticed none of the emergency workers nor volunteers had asbestos safety gear…
@Istandby666
@Istandby666 2 ай бұрын
I bet Simon could make a ton of videos on all the places around the world that this has happened to.
@vetinaris1297
@vetinaris1297 2 ай бұрын
Hmm. In first world countries most would be in America. In developing world 99% will be american and western companies doing it.
@Blackfatrat
@Blackfatrat 2 ай бұрын
@@vetinaris1297 A shit ton of it is in China, russia and countries like it. So not the west nor western countries. we're not to blame for everything in the world lol.
@vetinaris1297
@vetinaris1297 2 ай бұрын
@@Blackfatrat not everything but we act as slave owners across developing world. 2 wrongs are 2 wrongs not justification for each other.
@captainspaulding5963
@captainspaulding5963 2 ай бұрын
​@vetinaris1297 so.... do you not count Australia as a first world country? Or did you just post this without doing any research whatsoever? Because what happened there was far worse than Libby....
@vetinaris1297
@vetinaris1297 2 ай бұрын
@captainspaulding5963 where did I say that? I didn't include all first world by name or all corporate destruction coz there's too many.
@PearlTheFrenchie
@PearlTheFrenchie 2 ай бұрын
For some reason, every time I see Simon narrating a video I suddenly become interested and really enjoy it. Nice 💯
@MikeBaxterABC
@MikeBaxterABC 2 ай бұрын
A complete ban on asbestos was not final in Canada until 2018!!!
@user-rm4ez8pb6x
@user-rm4ez8pb6x 2 ай бұрын
The US Navy tried to bully me when I was discharged in 1999. I marked I had been exposed to asbestos while working onboard ship. They immediately brought in an officer that warned me my discharge may be put in hold for tests if I mark I had been exposed. I replied I had nothing else to do and they were paying me to sit in a room on shore. My discharge wasn't delayed. But I refused to sign my papers until they put back in that I had been exposed. They "forgot" to add it.
@Kriss_L
@Kriss_L 2 ай бұрын
We had to have the walls in our office tested for asbestos before we could drill into them to mount a TV (on a Navy base). Seems no one else in the build was aware of that requirement either.
@user-rm4ez8pb6x
@user-rm4ez8pb6x 2 ай бұрын
@@Kriss_L mine gets even more unbelievable. I get a job at the post office after the US Navy. They start to refurbish the area where customers wait, the lobby. And they found out the floor tiles had asbestos. I can't get away from this crap.
@chasegilmond5637
@chasegilmond5637 2 ай бұрын
Further on this subject, the silver valley in Northern Idaho and Butte Montana are dark chapters of corporate greed and the suffering it has caused the residents and the environment
@rhondahankins4026
@rhondahankins4026 2 ай бұрын
We used to say - ‘Butte, it’s the pits’. I wasn’t from there, I was from a different small town in western Montana, but my dad used to take us there so we could see where the copper bracelets we wore came from, plus he had friends that had moved there when I got older so we would go for a visit every once in awhile.
@calyodelphi124
@calyodelphi124 2 ай бұрын
The fact that a grand jury acquitted WR Grace of liability pretty much tells you all you need to know about who actually gets to make the rules in our society.
@ragtowne
@ragtowne 2 ай бұрын
I live in Northwestern Montana and while now it is common knowledge I had no idea the extent to which greed covered up corporate sins on the population and town of Libby (which is still a major stop on the Amtrak Empire Builder) driving through you can see it is sad reminder of a once a thriving town - still the landscape is spectacular and with nearby Lake Koocanusa the opportunity for year-round recreation makes it a great tourist destination
@Jin420
@Jin420 2 ай бұрын
First thing I think of when it comes to asbestos -- Wizard of Oz. The snow on the set was 100% asbestos.
@benparrish9547
@benparrish9547 2 ай бұрын
Oh yikes!
@samgray49
@samgray49 2 ай бұрын
My grandfather was a elevator mechanic and last year when he ended up in the ER for heart failure, they saw lesions on his lung. A biopsy showed it was asbestosis, and all are precancerous. We are opting for no treatment and just monitoring because he's 82, but we are looking into legal pathways against Thorp aka Dover elevator. And my cousin an open iron worker who participated in the cleanup after 9/11 was diagnosed with mesothelioma
@martindobrev-u6j
@martindobrev-u6j 20 күн бұрын
hey im so sorry for your loss:( how old was ur uncle when he was diagnosed with meso?…
@MikeBaxterABC
@MikeBaxterABC 2 ай бұрын
12:22 $2500 per claiminet!!! .. what a joke!!
@daveboz1984
@daveboz1984 2 ай бұрын
We used asbestos matt's and equipment in our science classes years ago. It was just everywhere
@MikeBaxterABC
@MikeBaxterABC 2 ай бұрын
3/8" thick asbestos panels were sold here in Canada well into the 1980's .. I used them under the wood stove in one house.
@SoundShinobiYuki
@SoundShinobiYuki 2 ай бұрын
I collect vintage and antique cookbooks- I’ve got a few that, before the days of electric kettles, suggest keeping your coffee and teapots warm during social occasions (where you’d want a steady supply of it to drink) by keeping them on asbestos pads.
@daveboz1984
@daveboz1984 2 ай бұрын
@@SoundShinobiYuki i imagine even the tea cosy (cover over pot) would likely contain it as well for warmth aha. mad world :D
@SoundShinobiYuki
@SoundShinobiYuki 2 ай бұрын
@@daveboz1984 Not impossible, though every old lady I knew growing up (and now me) had a lovingly hand-knitted one! I sure HOPE they didn’t make asbestos knitting yarn. 😂
@daveboz1984
@daveboz1984 2 ай бұрын
@@SoundShinobiYuki 🤣
@smac1706
@smac1706 2 ай бұрын
Crazy that I've lived in Montana since 2007 and I've never heard of this until just now...🤯
@NightridingDoom
@NightridingDoom 2 ай бұрын
shows how big the corruption really is
@SuperMadman41
@SuperMadman41 2 ай бұрын
Probably deliberate. Corporations do not like their dirty secrets exposed 🙈🙉🙊
@softwaifu
@softwaifu 2 ай бұрын
I'm surprised how many friends I have that live in or near Libby who think their water is perfectly clean 😢
@kandreasworld4374
@kandreasworld4374 2 ай бұрын
"Prioritizing profit over human safety." It's the American way. 🤬
@joshuabaker5712
@joshuabaker5712 2 ай бұрын
You think America is bad go look at most other countries. In some slavery is still used.
@BabyMakR
@BabyMakR 2 ай бұрын
@@joshuabaker5712 Yeh. By American corporations. It's much cheaper to bribe government officials in those countries than in the USA.
@LunaOrgana
@LunaOrgana 2 ай бұрын
Yessss let’s just a whole nation because of a few corrupt assholes. It’s why so many people are coming and immigrating here right?
@jacobheitmann6795
@jacobheitmann6795 2 ай бұрын
Hey its my homestate and simon covering the reason i gotta listen to mesothelioma commercials everyday
@thehangmansdaughter1120
@thehangmansdaughter1120 2 ай бұрын
OMG, I know about this town. One of my lecturers at Uni had a brother who worked in that town as a doctor. He and one of his children were exposed to asbestos and developed scared lungs that eventually killed them. That's why this particular teacher told us all about the evils of asbestos, encouraging us to write to our local government about asbestos in public buildings, which we did, en masse, until the begged us to stop. This was 30 years ago.
@erinbyrnes5921
@erinbyrnes5921 2 ай бұрын
No executives were punished by a Federal jury? How, why? It sounds like no justice was done.
@captainspaulding5963
@captainspaulding5963 2 ай бұрын
Money, money is the reason.
@jeffdroog
@jeffdroog 2 ай бұрын
Because money
@jerrykorman7770
@jerrykorman7770 2 ай бұрын
Justice? No such thing. It’s all about the Benjamins
@canedust
@canedust 2 ай бұрын
To quote a song about a similar town in Australia; "They're crossing their fingers, they pay the truth-makers"
@vetinaris1297
@vetinaris1297 2 ай бұрын
Hiw many corporate execs have ever faced justice in the history of corporate destruction?
@Macho_Fantastico
@Macho_Fantastico 2 ай бұрын
I know two people who've died due to illnesses from asbestos exposure. I can't even imagine a whole town being exposed to it. Disgusting, pure greed. That poor town, the people deserved better.
@dockerdave
@dockerdave 2 ай бұрын
You should have a look at the history of Wittenoom in Western Australia and the disaster of the asbestos mining there, in conjunction of the despicable behaviour of the James Hardy company and its treatment of the workers who contracted asbestosis/mesothelioma. Former Australian Minister for Foreign Affairs (one of the most senior government positions), Julie Bishop, was a lawyer working for the company, and their tactic was to delay any compensation cases until the victim died, thus avoiding having to pay compensation.
@robynstopped
@robynstopped Ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this subject. I don't think the danger of Asbestos can be overstated. The damage it causes to lungs is horrifying and permanent.
@ignitionfrn2223
@ignitionfrn2223 2 ай бұрын
Ah yes, mining villages, truly a great *tumor* on the well being of their citizens...
@softwaifu
@softwaifu 2 ай бұрын
Long time fan of the channel and i live about 2 hours away from Libby (which is actually just 1 major town away and in the same valley) and i cackled when i saw this thumbnail. GET EM SIMON!!
@rogerthornton4068
@rogerthornton4068 2 ай бұрын
I'm from Virginia and went to Libby for a couple days on business years ago. Libby is a sweet nice town. Too bad the power and greed of a corporation killed so many people.
@Trevorious2010
@Trevorious2010 2 ай бұрын
Last time I was this early, there was no Carbon Tax!
@NismoXero
@NismoXero Ай бұрын
I live near Libby. Near as in American near, only 400 miles, and had never heard this. Thank you.
@capnyoungs6896
@capnyoungs6896 Ай бұрын
never thought i'd ever see a video on this channel that takes place soooo close to home! i live in western montana!
@kathrynd5158
@kathrynd5158 Ай бұрын
I stayed in Libby for a few days while camping in the late 1990s. It struck me how all the birds and squirrels looked sickly. I didn't know about the air quality problem until the final day of my visit, though.
@RediOfDeath
@RediOfDeath 2 ай бұрын
Did some work there as a geotech engineer and the amount of safety gear and crazy amounts of dirt we moved is amazing that it’s still in cleaning
@justmenotyou3151
@justmenotyou3151 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact. A representative of WR Grace set on the advisory board for rule making regarding asbestos. They knew that if sample vermiculite normally, it would be one percent or less asbestos. Therefore, the asbestos regulations define asbestos content as >1 % asbestos. Problem: When sampling vermiculite, you need to get to the lowest level. For example, where it's used as attic insulation, sample the vermiculite at the contact of the insilation and the top of the ceiling. Here, you find a ton of loose fibers. This stuff will go airborne as soon as you mess with it. Loose fibers are the key to the vermiculite problem.
@jessicasmith6017
@jessicasmith6017 2 ай бұрын
My grandfather was a chemical engineer for ALCOA and got his degree in the 30s and it was widely known that asbestos was deadly back then when he and my grandmother bought there home the first thing he did was have the insulation removed and replaced with asbestos free stuff and all of the paint stripped and repainted with lead free paint. He didn't play with safety he passed away along time before I was born but all of us grandkids know what asbestos did to you from a young age.
@7HmanThe
@7HmanThe 2 ай бұрын
On a similar note, I recently read the wikipedia page on Itai-Itai Disease, and would love to see a video on it
@densalbeach1
@densalbeach1 Ай бұрын
Great video, have a look at Turner & Newall, asbestos processing factory in the Spodden Valley, Rochdale, England. Vouched as safe by Cyril Smith, MP, but thousands affected with significant exposure to asbestos fibres from the factory including school children.
@MtnTechie
@MtnTechie Ай бұрын
I work in Libby currently. It's amazing how many transplants continue to pour into the area, totally unaware of what happened. If they knew, they probably would go somewhere else, which would be great. You failed to mention the BNSF railroad played a major role in all this, transporting the product in uncovered rail cars for decades. BNSF was aware of the dangers the whole time, did nothing.
@Linda-hf7vr
@Linda-hf7vr Ай бұрын
I've been to Libby, Montana, my ex was born and raised there. I remember seeing the zonolite mine signs while we were driving up to the Libby Dam. I remember the family saying that the mine was currently open (this was the early '90s) but that it the mine alternating open and closed depending on the various law suits. My ex's family was primarily involved with the logging industry. It's a beautiful area (there have been various movies filmed there) but it is pretty isolated there. Back then they were just getting a McDonalds. So interesting to hear all of this that I never knew,
@jolness1
@jolness1 2 ай бұрын
I live in Montana and poor Libby got fucked. The economy collapsed and they were left with crazy high rates of cancers and other diseases.
@SpikeKastleman
@SpikeKastleman Ай бұрын
I used to live just north-north-east of Libby in BC, Canada. Been in the water that flows to Libby eventually.
@user-pi7gc4wg8k
@user-pi7gc4wg8k 2 ай бұрын
Simon is the mall santa of youtube.
@chrism8180
@chrism8180 Ай бұрын
I always used to get your videos and rarely see them now
@addisonmartin3200
@addisonmartin3200 Ай бұрын
YAAAY. Love seeing the horrors that have been conducted in my home state brought to light!
@TravTheNarratorRedux
@TravTheNarratorRedux 2 ай бұрын
Grandparents used to live here and I used to visit from WA quite often till my grandfather passed In a tree accident. Beautiful country for atv and horse riding.
@gts3360
@gts3360 2 ай бұрын
If you get the chance look up Wittenoom in Western Australia and the blue asbestos. Pictures of kids playing in blue sandpits and miners having shoveling races to see who could fill a drum with blue asbestos fastest.
@Reitz86
@Reitz86 2 ай бұрын
If you are or were licensed in the asbestos management/ abatement industry, good chance Libby Montana was referenced in the training material.
@RhonwenBear
@RhonwenBear 2 ай бұрын
Corporations will always choose profit over lives. These companies are not our friends.
@stevefebian4766
@stevefebian4766 2 ай бұрын
4:12 mesothelioma just took away our beloved colleague few weeks ago..all of us thought that she's having a bad spine problem since December 2023, but after doing couple of test mesothelioma was only discovered a week before she passed away.. r.i.p Hazel
@Invertedblueroses
@Invertedblueroses 2 ай бұрын
Went to Libby during a Montana hiking and camping trip back in 2022, had no idea.
@johnfender6468
@johnfender6468 2 ай бұрын
I live in Manville NJ. It had the biggest asbestos plant in the world. The town is named after the company Johns-Manville. The old timers said it would snow in the summer . Asbestos snow.
@maximilienmonty9588
@maximilienmonty9588 2 ай бұрын
Jeffrey mine in literal Asbestos (recently renamed to Val-des-Sources), Quebec, anyone?
@LennoxMatt1
@LennoxMatt1 2 ай бұрын
Grew up in Danville, right next door
@Mechknight73
@Mechknight73 2 ай бұрын
Western Australia has a case a lot like this. The town of Wittenoom grew from asbestos mining. Blue asbestos is known for being the most toxic of all asbestos type. Like Libby, nobody except the higher ups in the company. The mine closed in the 60s due to it being unviable. The state government did their best to wipe the town off the map due to the contamination. It no longer exists on official maps, nor on road signs. 18 months ago, the last buildings were demolished, and the cleanup continues to this day. I did manage to get a few photos before this happened, but it's obvious that the level of contamination from both the town and the surrounding gorges means it will be a big problem for years to come
@multipletanksyndrome
@multipletanksyndrome 2 ай бұрын
I used to live in Libby. Our house was on the other side of the main clean up site, so we had to drive past it whenever we went to or from town.
@multipletanksyndrome
@multipletanksyndrome 2 ай бұрын
I knew a guy whose job was to chip off built up of asbestos off the bottom of vehicles. When he'd get home from work, he'd take off his coveralls, and his wife would shake off the dust before washing them.
@BostonGhost617
@BostonGhost617 Ай бұрын
As someone that works in insulation, you won't believe how many houses are still filled with vermiculite
@LaserRifle
@LaserRifle Ай бұрын
Do you think you inhaled at least a couple of asbestos fibres from the vermiculite contaminants? Are you worried about it? I work as a carpenter's helper and I did come across this a few times.
@sleigh4019
@sleigh4019 2 ай бұрын
My great aunt died in 1998 and it was from working at ship yards in ww2 ..crazy
@glentaylor71
@glentaylor71 Ай бұрын
I grew up there. My grandfather died of brown lung from mining long before i was born, and half of my older relatives are dead of COPD or lung cancer.
@davidbennettracing538
@davidbennettracing538 2 ай бұрын
Have you heard of the James Hardy Company in Australia? You want to talk about Into The Shaddows…
@Istandby666
@Istandby666 2 ай бұрын
This place is like that town in Australia. Corporations need to be fully responsible for any death or heathcare issues for their employees and the towns/ cities they're in. How many companies and how many towns/ cities have this happened to? Citizens need to stand up and require the government to help the people not the corporations.
@gregbaxter5525
@gregbaxter5525 2 ай бұрын
Wittenoom is the town in Aus.
@Waywardwindfall
@Waywardwindfall Ай бұрын
I wish Simon would do a series like this. I would love to see him speak about the uranium mill spill in Navajo Nation (Church Rock, New Mexico.) I grew up literally across the street from a uranium telling pond and half my neighbors have lung and thyroid cancer. This happens in small towns in every state. America sucks that way. Profit over people.
@vitorpereira9515
@vitorpereira9515 2 ай бұрын
I would rather spent a weakend camping in Krakatoa then go to this city.
@Idontexisthahaa
@Idontexisthahaa 2 ай бұрын
Video #17 protesting the use of unnecessarily loud music in a macabre history video
@LennoxMatt1
@LennoxMatt1 2 ай бұрын
I grew up next to the town of Asbestos in Quebec, the site of the largest open pit asbestos mine in the world...yeah I've had my exposure limit
@leafyrox
@leafyrox 2 ай бұрын
Devastating story of corporate greed. Asbestos is a terrible thing. It was used extensively in building materials. Lead is no picnic, either. And now we have pfas and microplastics.
@blueboltshrimp
@blueboltshrimp 2 ай бұрын
omg I just clicked on this video because it was in my recommendeds and I got jumpscared by Simon Whistler's voice he's everywhere!!!!
@VashGames
@VashGames Ай бұрын
The town has a literal "breathtaking landscape"
@SerialChiller1000
@SerialChiller1000 2 ай бұрын
Billings resident here. I was surprised that Libby's story was/is known worldwide for a city being poisoned.
@-NightAngel
@-NightAngel 2 ай бұрын
I used to live in Libby and still have family in Eureka. How have I never heard of this? 🤯
@darthmonkey7718
@darthmonkey7718 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Simon
@Leukavia
@Leukavia 2 ай бұрын
I grew up in a Columbia Falls, Montana; Everyone in Montana either had a relative or knew someone whose relative was one of those who’d gotten sick from this. Commercials about Mesothelioma were the most common commercials that were on all the local channels. When you’re younger, you don’t really think too much about this kinda thing. But then you become an adult and everyone you know is getting sick and suddenly you just start realizing how fucked up it truly was
@zosothezephead837
@zosothezephead837 2 ай бұрын
14:47 I think someone off-camera just held up a sign to Simon saying "Not 'asbes-toes', 'asbestos'"
@MicaAvali
@MicaAvali 2 ай бұрын
Simon talking about mesithelioma… I’m half expecting the song. Damnit brain blaze
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