Ascaso DUO Steel PID Review: Is it the BEST espresso machine for HOME baristas??

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The Ascaso DUO Steel seems to have it all, PID, preinfusion, unlimited steam but where does this machine compromise? The comprehensive review for the Ascaso Duo espresso machine is here.
In this video, I'll walk you through the strengths and soft spots of this machine and help you decide if this is the best for your kitchen and your coffee.
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[@MuhanadOmar]

I'm super impressed by how well spoken and articulate you are. Thanks for this great review. Liked and subscribed. Thanks again!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Ah thanks so much! Glad to have you here! Reach out any time!

[@manm2003]

I’m buying this machine because of this review. Thank you! 🙏🏼

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

All I can say, you’re gonna love it!

[@rgrobles]

After watching a lot of reviews, I finally took the plunge and ordered the White Steel Duo after watching your video. Super excited until EP advised they are sold out and new pre-orders will not ship until end of August. My fault but for waiting. Now I see Ascaso factory is releasing a newer version Steel Duo PLUS which seems to include all the extras I was considering.

[@thithamduong2223]

This is our second K-Classic. We had our first one for many years, so when we had to replace it, we wanted nothing else but this exact kzbin.infoUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf model. We use it for about three people everyday in the morning. The taste and quick brew is one of the reasons we like it so much. There are so many choices of brands of coffee that we would grab what was on sale and test the different brands from there. I would definitely recommend trying different brands of coffee to find the ones you like the most because there are brands that quite frankly taste horrible.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

It deserves a hero’s burial!

[@Poise716]

Wow I’ve never seen this machine and I’ve been all up in espresso KZbin for like a year. Happy I found the channel as well 🙏

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Yeah these machines are still really just starting to hit the radar. Thank you and welcome!!

[@markisrael2690]

Spot on review from someone who owns this unit. I’m looking forward to the steam pressure upgrade although the current level is quite decent. The hot water spout switch doesn’t allow flow control but you eventually figure out when to stop it for reaching the amount desired if used for Americanos.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Definitely! The steam is not a dealbreaker but I’m still looking forward to trying to boost. The wood dial is a nice touch too! Was always jealous that the uno had that and the duo didnt

[@TheAlbaz]

@@DaddyGotCoffee I noticed 30Coffee in the EU is selling the 110V upgraded DUO, so hopefully it won’t be long before we can purchase the steam upgrade kit 🤞🏻

[@1989Janno]

There is a new version 2022 with more steam power

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

@@1989Janno yup! I’m working on getting a hold of a unit. They literally JUST landed in North America

[@Serega4421633]

@@DaddyGotCoffee where is the best place to buy this machine?

[@dogyukato]

Wow, one of the greatest reviews I've ever seen in these days. Thank you.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Thank you so much for the kind words! 🥰

[@robinwerth5836]

I’m 6mths in to my Ascaso (my first ever espresso machine), and I love it. Beautiful design and great feature set for the price. The baskets and tamper are pretty crappy…I recommend VST 18 and 22g, bottomless portafilter and a 58mm tamp (Normcore is pretty good). Also, it does have energy saving standby mode….it times out to standby mode after 30/60/mins (from memory….it can be programmed through the menu).

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Yes, I upgraded to a triple size basket and oversized tamper as well. I can’t believe I missed the standby thing but did correct it in my description! Hard to find in the menu thoigh

[@publicname515]

Which bottomless portofilter did you get? The one from Ascaso is $220, ouch!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

@@publicname515 Its crazy expensive but... yes that's what I use. Ascaso sent me one. The good news is any aftermarket 58mm (not dogleg) will fit!

[@ab-vk8xq]

@@DaddyGotCoffee Thanks for the advice.

[@chrisj6190]

@@DaddyGotCoffee is the included portafilter compatible with a 22g basket? Is it bottomless?

[@quinntinfong]

Finally a great review about the Duo in English!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Yessss! 🙌 Any specific questions let me know!

[@quinntinfong]

@@DaddyGotCoffee I will hold you to that! Been following you on IG for a while. My main inspiration to get an Ascaso! And fatherhood!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

@@quinntinfong amazing! I’m so glad!

[@TylerIngram]

Bottomless portafilters are mesmerizing Love the detail you go into on your review!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Thanks so much Tyler!!

[@Chelko88]

Thanks for this review! I've had my eyes on this machine for a year now. I'm saving up so I can get it soon. Never owned an Ascaso machine but my favourite coffee place has one and I love the quality of the shots and the esthetics of their machines.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Fun! Do you know what model they have?

[@williamchen9705]

Hi, great review on the Ascaso! I was wondering if you could do a video on how you maintain the machine, ie cleaning, descaling etc

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Yup! This is. Solid idea! I have a lot of videos on the list 😅 but I added this one!!

[@marc6652]

Ascaso Duo Steel PID + Fiorenzato AllGround grinder is probably the best combo for me. Not cheap, but it worth it I think. Thanks for sharing.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

It really is a fantastic combo If you end up buying, use my code DADDYGOTCOFFEE at espressoparts and get 10% off both!

[@ItsMeNubbs]

I have the new version myself and it is AMAZING(while also frustrating) I really love the fit and finish I love how fast it heats up (Agrre on the standby mode being a miss, I plug mine into amsart outlet and have it turn on and off at set times so the basket and cups ar ewarm when I want them to be) I love the steam power and the no burn wand(However I might have to play with some settings, mine doesn't steam back to back without it self purging and shutting the steam off, its probably a setting I haven't messed with yet) I love the steam knob (however the knob is very small and low profile which takes time to get used too, I'm waiting for a 3rd party lever option to hit the market) I love the two shot timers (though they are inconsistent, I pull 3 shots in a row, all the same 20g of the same beans with 5 sec of pre and the shot varied from 27.8s/40g, 27.3s/51g, & 27.1s/52g. I have to run some more tests to narrow down what is causing the weight diff, but the time diff make some pause on trusting it) With all that, I LOVE this machine and it is the perfect machine for our household and the way we do coffee. I would without a doubt recommend it to anyone looking for this level of machine

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

The inconsistency in the shot output is likely due to the design of the volumetric programming. The flow meter comes BEFORE the OPV in the plumbing. So, if you hit the pressure ceiling of the OPV and it discharges water back into the reservoir, this water is included in the volumetric dose, even though it’s not in the output. For this reason unless I’m perfectly dialed in I don’t use the programming most of the time. Agreed - great machine and I can’t wait to review the new version!

[@rxonmymind8362]

Without being in physics class(barely graduated😅) it's water going into your cup. That's the only answer. Now why? Something is measuring the dosage wrong on the machine. It's not you, your measurements. It's the machine.

[@jesseyallyson4088]

I went with the gaggia classic for my espresso machine since it was more in my price range. I have done the opv mod to it and it wasn’t to bad but I would have loved it it was just a simple screw adjustment. Also thinking about doing the pid to the machine. My thought when buying the gaggia classic was over time I could upgrade some parts as I get better at making espresso.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

The Gaggia CP is a fantastic machine to get into the game. I’ve actually been thinking of getting one and doing some content around these mods to help others!

[@jons3808]

I did the OPV mod and also just installed a PID on my Gaggia Classic Pro. I’m really happy with it.

[@PAD___]

Interesting, well made content. Looking longer term on a new machine and will spend some more time on your channel as I research options. We’ve used a lavazza espresso point for about 15 years and it’s been great, but it is now discontinued and repairs are harder to make.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Amazing! Welcome! I have several more espresso machine and grinder reviews in queue!

[@bigpaul9476]

Thank you for this video I will do some more research on this unit. I want to upgrade from my Breville express and have been down this rabbit hole. And I love the way this unit looks

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

No problem! Reach out with any questions and if you end up buying, make sure you use my code (DADDYGOTCOFFEE) for 10% off at Ascaso-USA.com Happy to answer any questions about their line! Great machines and I agree, the looks are tops

[@sebastien.jubinville]

If I were to invest that amount in an espresso machine, I would definitely look at this beast ☕️

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

It’s a really fun unit to use. Thanks for watching bro!!

[@peterbrouwer143]

Thank you for the review. My wife and I are seriously considering this for our first machine.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

It’s a great one! If you have questions on this or any other machine let me know! And if you do end up buying one of these, make sure you use my code for 10% off! They don’t go on sale very often!

[@dolex161]

I own this machine this exact spec (in black). Love the fast warm-up time. Just recommend getting yourself a 18+ gram basket, mine came with a 14g

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Great point! Most of the time I use the 18g basket that came with the bottomless!

[@MrAndrew60]

Bruh, lovely content. I've been on a three-month journey for a suitable machine under 2k. The Silvia Pro X was tipping the scales until I saw this unit. Truly lovely design and features. Thank you for sharing.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Aw thanks! Yeah it's a great machine. The Pro X will have more steam power because of the boiler, but this has other pros, as mentioned in the vid:) Glad to help you discover it! If you end up buying use DADDYGOTCOFFEE at Ascaso-Usa.com for 10% off :)

[@MrAndrew60]

@@DaddyGotCoffee thank you for the reminder! Will do.

At the moment I'm considering that machine and your review very much answered many questions of mine! Thanks

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Amazing! I’m so glad! If you happen to be in the US and end up buying I have an affiliate code for 10% off from Ascaso-USA.com - use DADDYGOTCOFFEE!

[@saintwaye7984]

dude that is such a great review of a machine which should just win a design award. Srsly the thing solvedes problems we didnt even know we had! keep up the great work!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Thank you so much!

[@sipntools]

Justin!!!!!! Thank you so so so much! 💓 I felt the video was great with the pros and minor cons.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

YESSS. Thank you!! It was fun to put together!

[@sipntools]

@@DaddyGotCoffee And you were very thorough without overwhelming the audience!

[@judyliu8198]

Thanks for the great review. I already put the new model in my cart but would like to see your review first lol.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

If you're shopping at ascaso-usa.com make sure you use my code for 10% off! Hope you like it!

[@JaimetheNomad]

Great video! I want! I'm looking to upgrade my Breville barista and this just might be the ticket, also aesthetics are important to me and this definitely fits that for me.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I’m with you! The aesthetics are best in class in my opinion!

[@eugenekong9972]

I see your fiorenzato allground!! I just got mine for my ECM classika

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Yesss!!

[@sven3033]

two notes: 1. since 2022 the upgraded steam circuit is build in by default. I have been told it makes a huge difference, and it's possible to upgrade the older version. I think I will invest these extra bugs for the upgrade sooner or later. 2. There is a volumetric for the programmable espresso shots, which sound very nice in theory. BUT it's shitty design... the OPV behind the volumetric, so the water going back to the tank through the OPV is measured as well. Even perfect prepared baskets have different resistances. So the amount of water going through the OPV variate from shot to shot, and this results in an annoying variation of espresso volume from shot to shot. I don't know why these parts are build in this order, but it makes the volumetric obsolete, especially for light roasted specialty coffees. I and most people I talked to just set the program to a much higher water volume, control the espresso volume with a wage and stop by hand. Machines in higher price segments don't even have a volumetric, but if you include a feature, do it right or just leave it... That said, I still love this machine!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Sven! I love it when people have REALLY looked into a machine! 1. The upgraded models only landed in North America (where I am) AFTER my review video! 🙄 Once I get my hands on one I will be reviewing it and I agree - def worth the kk EY for the extra features you get! 2. This is exactly why I didn’t use the word “volumetric” in my video. It’s such a strange design. I was confused for a while about how they marketed it as volumetric but the lived experience seeeemmeed to say otherwise. It took some digging with the North American distributor before I actually figured out the nature of what was happening - but you nailed it. Still, I agree with you. Fantastic machine!

[@erhan5945]

They are also set to release the Steel Duo Plus which will have the steam lever on the side like the Baby T. Expected sometime in 2023.

[@loganburleson933]

@@erhan5945 You've got me curious about the Steel Duo Plus! The slow steaming is the only thing holding me back from a Duo

[@erhan5945]

@@loganburleson933 I’m personally holding out for the release as well. Apparently will be available in Australia in ~3 months. So expect it would sooner in EU and US markets.

[@danishlalahero]

@sven it sounds like you had a look i side the machine. Did it look like it would be possible to reroute the pipes/hoses to make the volumetric measurement sit after the OPV?

[@karlkani4442]

At first, great video. I Iike your style and you re explaining things great and easy to understand. It's 1 year now I got my Ascaso Steal Duo PİD and I'm not regretting anything. It's such a good machine and I agree with nearly all of your arguments. There is one thing I would like to add. The drip tray is crafted not that good I think. I nearly cut my Fingers on the sharp corners that thing has 😖

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Thank you so much! Interesting, what part of the drip tray did this? I’ve not had that issue

[@karlkani4442]

@@DaddyGotCoffee I don't know how to call them, but those "walls" in the middle part of the tray are very sharp. Maybe it's an individual issue of my machine 🤷🏻‍♂️ But I have several questions about your espresso routine. How much pressure did you set on your machine, how much coffee do you use and so on. Maybe you already have a video about these questions. Sorry if it's so. I'm new to this channel 😅✌️

[@boonewong1453]

Great review! Absolutely detailed. Would you be doing a review on the latest La Marzocco Linea Micra. It is really small and packed with good features. I think many audiences like us would love to see a great review by you. Thanks.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I’ll put this one on the short list and see if I can get my hands on one! Thank you!!

[@KalidasRadhakrishnan]

This certainly deserves to be in the conversation to be the first "real" machine. Added it to my wish list once I graduate from the entry level Breville touch (I am not too keen on the grinder functionality as I have a Sette 270wi).

[@danielplainview4778]

Very helpful thanks

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Of course!!

[@manm2003]

Loved this video!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Thank you!!!

[@vitza99]

Cheers mate, great review, keep them coming silky smooth just like the shot.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Thank you so much! Cheers 😊 any specific requests lemme know!

[@JeefMcQueef]

Going to get this as my first espresso machine when the time is right. Thanks for the info

[@LifestyleLab_]

Great review!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Thanks so much dude!!!!

[@postscript123]

Ok. Ordered the latest version of it. Thanks for the video.

[@tonymendestv]

Thank you for that review 🙌🏼

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

You’re welcome!!

[@montecristo1129]

Great review mate, I'm at the moment choosing this machine for Lelit Elizabeth. The Lelit has loads of features as well, but because my counter has limited space especially top wise, this would be a winner. For me, it counts on how to fill it up with water. This would be very easy from the side, the Lelit is very annoying. Always need compromising so I think I will go with the new edition of Ascaso duo, for doing 2 or 3 cups per day, will do it. Thank you!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I love that too and the baby t is the same - so easy to fill! Most of the time I don’t even pull the reservoir all the way out! If you’re buying in the US use my code (daddygotcoffee) at Ascaso-USA.com or espressoparts.com and save yourself 10%!

[@ab-vk8xq]

@@DaddyGotCoffee Will that code work in Canada?

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

@@ab-vk8xq unfortunately not, but I am working on a discount with Ascaso canada

[@67er_matze97]

top review!! I agree this is a great machine for home use!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Thank you so much!!

[@rodrigosepulveda175]

Great review! Would love to have that beautiful machine!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Thanks so much! I agree - it’s dreamy!! 😍

[@zermomia]

I had Ascaso for 6 years , good and bad time but it served me well but one day the stainless tube inside get clogged , spent money and time to fix it aaaaaand I switched to ECM puristika and I love her.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

The ECMs are great machines too! Make sure you descale regularly to prevent anything similar from happening in the future 😊 Hope to review one of those one day!

[@zermomia]

@@DaddyGotCoffee great advice..... Thank you.

[@zermomia]

@@DaddyGotCoffee great advice..... Thank you.

[@benoitlauzon4811]

A side by side review with the Bellezza Bellona should be interesting!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

This is a video I’d love to do! Just gotta get my hands on a Bellona 👀

[@pglickman]

Great review! Thank you.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Amazing! Thank you!!!

[@jakevan1969]

Thermoblock machines also produce fresh water vs reheated water from a boiler. Fresh vs reheated. This to me is a huge selling point. Decent machines argue in favor of this feature and I tend to agree. I have a Barista Express and see this as a strength not a weakness in design. Having 2 thermoblocks is very cool. Heat exchange machines run second for fresher water IMO.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

You know I really like this too. I think we’ll be seeing a lot more thermocoil machines in the future!

[@jakevan1969]

@@DaddyGotCoffee Really? Interesting times. Something to look out for. Ascaso is certainly all in with this technology. Cheers.

[@petervansan1054]

except Decent has to use two pumps and mix cold and hot water to get correct temperature. Ascaso is not doing that thus it's temperature will be unstable. This is why boilers are better.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

@@petervansan1054 the Duo meets the +/- 0.5 C temp stability spec - I don’t have a scace but spoke to several who have scaced the duo before recording this during my fact checking. The decent system is even better, no question.

[@sipntools]

Why am I watching this video again Justin for the 500th time ❤?!

[@kimbridge5592]

next time. just got the touch impress. which is great. in Australia the ascao cost $3000. then you need a grinder. i do like the sound of them though.

[@maxpedroza7144]

Thank you so much for this helpful video. I bought mine a month ago and love it. It would be awesome to get your recommendation on a cleaning schedule and what you use to make sure the machine stays in excellent condition. Any advice would be appreciated!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Glad it was helpful! I clean mine every 3 mos ☺️

[@vald447]

I wish they had a flow profiling valve that machines with E61 group head have. Great review.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I saw someone on Reddit did a flow control mod 👀👀 Pretty crazy! Thank you!!

[@EmenseCoffee]

Nice review! I just subscribed I dig the channel!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Yay! Welcome! Any content requests hit me!

[@NazidKimmie]

Wow great video, first time on your channel. This machine makes me wonder if the rumor mill around Breville/ Sage Dual boiler model being phased out or replaced by a newer.. different model. The DB is what I have and is great value - its just pretty delicate and break downs are an accepted risk by users. It seems with Breville's success with the Bambino range of thermo type machines could mean that the the DB successor could be a thermo coil machine like the Ascaso (which I honestly have not seen before), the boiler issues in the DB are well known so an efficient thermo like this makes a lot of sense. Great work, will be following this channel!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Wow thanks so much for the encouragement! You nailed it with serviceability being an issue with the breville line and the risk being the cost of entry. I also agree that the DB is great value! Personally with energy efficient thermocoil tech improving, I think we’re going to see more machines like this, but the boiler will still reign supreme for some time yet! Glad to have you here!

[@josephteifer9714]

I love your plain talk review. I own a Breville Barista Express which I purchased three years ago. I'm looking at upgrading, but I can't justify $2,500 - $3,500. The PID, pre-infusion, and the adjustable OPV are my hot buttons. Seven seconds of Pre-infusion would be nice, but is that worth another $1,000. I wouldn't know anything about Ascaso, but for your review

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Amazing! I really appreciate the kind words! Yes, this machine sits in a real sweet spot in terms of features/price - I agree! If you have any specific questions let me know! And if you are in the US and end up deciding this machine is for you, use my code DADDYGOTCOFFEE to save 10% at ascaso-USA.com 👊

[@josephteifer9714]

@@DaddyGotCoffee I plan on buying using your code. It would appear it made in Spain which is great. I won’t buy any products made in China unless I have no choice (this was sent from my Apple iPhone - oh well)

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

@@josephteifer9714 it’s def made in Spain 🔥 If you have any other questions just reach out!

[@josephteifer9714]

@@DaddyGotCoffee Excellent!!!!!

[@adamg.manning6088]

Thanks for the review. Memes and jokes are great, but I prefer longer format videos that I can actually learn something from.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I’m glad! I’m planning to do a lot more videos like this!

[@adamg.manning6088]

@@DaddyGotCoffee Subscribed, then.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

@@adamg.manning6088 if you have specific content requests, please let me know! Even though my channel is still growing here, I can often get my hands on equipment via my Instagram page

[@adamg.manning6088]

@@DaddyGotCoffee Request a Lelit Elizabeth and put it head to head with this machine. Then send me the one you like least! Thanks, Daddy!

[@olbucky9413]

Excellent review. My concern with thermoblocks is hard water and the challenge of scaling.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I’ll be the first to say that good water is important, but also - thermoblocks are better in this regard than boilers because the water isn’t kept hot for extended periods. 👀 I still descale thermoblock machines regularly just because… but this is a plus for thermoblocks rather than a detractor in my view!

[@olbucky9413]

Ymmv. Historically thermoblocks have been more problematic because of how they’re constructed and what metal is used vs a conventional boiler over the long haul. Thermocoils make sense for steaming. It’s a bit like debating which is more environmentally friendly, something that uses less energy or something less efficient that can be repaired and has a 20 year life expectancy. Regardless, a thorough and well done review. Kudos.

[@eobet]

@@olbucky9413 Oh, does the thermoblock/coil have a shorter life expectancy than boilers? I was looking into this as a "buy it for life" machine...

[@olbucky9413]

@@eobet imo yes…it will have a shorter lifespan than boilers which usually are fairly easy to source elements for in the event of failure.

[@Shaz351]

Thanks for the video good info

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Thank you!!!

[@andreujuanc]

Glad you mentioned and discussed the difference between the coils and the boilers. Props for that. Ascaso tech on their coils is top notch. Things I wish I had with my DUO: Modify the coffee brew programs time via the settings menu, instead of holding the button to do so.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

There’s definitely a stigma around thermocoils because bad ones get put in cheap machines. Ascasos tech is impressive in this area.

[@erhan5945]

Is this Thermocoil different to the one used on the Breville Barista Touch? I find that my shots can vary wildly even if I keep the other variables consistent.

[@sheva_sd]

Im so happy with my Bezzera 🤗

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

It’s a great machine! Would love to get my hands on one to review!

[@TylerCordaro]

Love this !!! I wish there was more content online about this machine. I know different beans, pressure and grind size changes things. But could you share your grind size on the Niche, Bean , Pressure and pour time. I just got my Duo and having a hard time dialing it in. Thanks a bunch !!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

For sure! A slight disclaimer here - I’m using a “triple” basket that comes with the bottomless while the duo only comes with a double. I usually keep my OPV set for 11 bar but manage my puck prep/grind so that the actual pressure at group tops out at 9. I usually use an 18g dose in the triple, run a 5 second preinfusion, 3 second pause then main pull. I usually hold the switch down and kill it manually when it hits my target weight. For timing, I time from first drip on my acaia lunar and shoot for 20-30 seconds from when the timer activates (first drip). Depending on the bean I can be anywhere from 8 (decaf) to 26 on the niche. that could really change depending on how your grinder is calibrated. So overall that is probably not at all helpful but feel free to dm me on Instagram! 😂

[@TylerCordaro]

@@DaddyGotCoffee Dude thanks so much for the taking the time I really appreciate it . I also used your code when buying the machine !!!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

@@TylerCordaro you’re going to love it! Don’t be shy to dm me on Instagram or comment here if you have questions when you get it! 🙌🔥

[@MrRlanthie]

Most comprehensive review I’ve seen on this machine. Does it have a low water warning?

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

The V1 actually doesn’t - I just got the V2 today so I’ll check that. For what it’s worth, running out of water is not a harmful to vibratory pumps as it is to rotary pumps

[@TrevorDeslippe]

Toronto ? I noticed you got some pilot bags of coffee on the shelf there. Nice review. I'm definitely considering this as an upgrade from the delonghi

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I'm not in Toronto but I'm super close and Pilot is one of my faves! If you end up purchasing I have an affiliate link (www.ascaso-usa.com/?rfsn=5797520.aaa4ed) and code (DADDYGOTCOFFEE) that gets you 10% off.

[@jakevan1969]

Most of these machines are great. Especially the ones with PID, OPV, volumetric dosing, etc. However, given the way things are going, I keep waiting for a pressure or flow control knob to control pre and post infusion. Something like the Quickmill Sunny but as an optional feature. Having this option programmable would be great too, but it is hard to come by unless you want to pay $3500 USD + like with the VBM Domobar Super Digital, Creme One Profiler etc. After enough sober second though a Flair 58 can out perform all of these machines, fresh water, unlimited custom control. If it wasn't for the issue of not having steam. Now we just need a stand alone Ascaso steamer.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Have you looked at the Bellman Stovetop steamer? It’s not electric but it’s a great pairing with manual espresso makers. And yes, once they get all that under a certain price it will be… a day 🤩🥳

[@jakevan1969]

@@DaddyGotCoffee I've never tried one but they look pretty good. I wonder how slow they are to get to pressure. I do really like how quick this machine and other thermoblocks reach brewing temperature, the more I look into it, maybe flow or pressure profiling is a bit gimmicky.I am sure that I would be very happy with the Ascaso Steel Duo with PID. Thanks for the great review.

[@greysuit17]

@@jakevan1969 Bellman’s take about 10-15 minutes to get up to steaming pressure. Which isn’t a huge deal if your using a manual machine and you have to pre heat the machine. Sadly its pretty much a one and done steamer. You could maybe do two drinks if your working fast. After that though you’ve got to wipe it down quickly and wait for it to cool and pretty much start the whole process over again. It works and it works well once you learn how to position the pitcher but with quirks and some small down sides. Also as a side note flow/pressure profiling isnt a gimmick. They affect your flavor/texture of your shot. They can help if you like lighter roasts that are hard to extract but, its not necessary to pull a good shot. If that were the case every cafe would have it. One main reason, is it does slow down your time to pull shots unless you have something like a Decent and even then you still are potentially pulling slower than the traditional 30 seconds. Its just a tool that could be used to make espresso, nice to have but not needed. The question you have to ask is, is it something you need or want and why? If yea and you have a good reason for why you must have that feature then save up for a machine that has it or add it to an e61.

[@jakevan1969]

@@greysuit17 I am tempted to buy a Bellman, thanks for the jnfo. As I understand it, pre-infusion helps prevent chanelling and likely increases extraction. Post-infusion or ramping down the pressure/flow at the end of the shot decreases puck erosion and adds contact time which also increases extraction. But, not everyone is brewing light roast expresso. Certainly, if you listen carefully to John Buckman, he says that he has designed the decent espresso machine to effectively brew light roast espresso and I have no doubt he has achieved that. I would love the opportunity to spend some time with a bag of hard to brew, relatively insoluble, light roasted coffee and a decent espresso machine and try some different profiles to see if I prefer one over another. Certainly, with my combination of the JX-Max and the Robot along with some very nice fresh medium roasted specialty coffee, I have brewed some mind blowing shots! With this set-up I have pre-infused at 2-3 bars for approx. 10 seconds, held the pressure at 8 bars to 20 grams on the scale, and then ramped down to 6 bars for the remainder of the shot, 20 grams in, approx. 38 to 45 out depending on the roast level and freshness of the beans. I think that a pressure/flow profiling machine would take the hobby to the next level, but for darker and medium roasts it might be a little over kill? I think that I am enthusiastic enough about the hobby to justify a machine that can manipulate the shot in this way. Now, do I save for a decent? 😄🤔

[@greysuit17]

@@jakevan1969 it seems there’s only a few option’s really, the Decent, a good lever machine, a slayer single group, Lelit Bianca or an modded e61. Im in the same boat, and if I could afford it I’d get three machines, the Londinium, the Decent and a Faema. For the time being I’m just going to probably get the Rancilio Pro X. I have a modded Rok espresso with the Bellman and Ive considered getting a cheap De’longhi just to steam. The Argos is potentially a cheap option for pressure profiling and steaming milk with the Bluetooth transducer. Ah the rabbit hole of coffee!

[@TheDennzio]

Thanks, good sales job man! Do you think there might be a Black Friday deal this year (2023)?

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

It’s definitely worth waiting 2 weeks to check - I’m not sure though!

[@petebagi]

Great review! Can't wait till you get your hands on the V2 and see how it stacks up. My questions are 1. How loud (annoying) is the vibratory pump and does it make the pumping noise when using steam? 2. I don't want to get into a cycle of upgrading all the time and was thinking of skipping this class of machine and going straight into a dual boiler, rotary pump machine but what are your thoughts? Could this machine last someone a while without having to upgrade? Keep up the great content!

[@brewbudsclub]

I really enjoyed watching this video! First time checking out your KZbin channel after enjoying a lot of your insta content =]

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Amazing! So great to see you over here!

[@postscript123]

And to return it to Espresso Parts company, you have to pay for shipping back to them and they have a bunch of stipulations on how to clean it to be like new and still they're going to charge you at least 10 % back for restocking.

[@O.G.Alphaborn]

Looking at an upgrade to venture deeper into espresso. Our first machine was a brim 19bar. Looking at upgrading for sure. My other option is the Breville Dual Boiler.

[@danielcarter9601]

Great review, thanks. I'm waiting for mine to be delivered. It is a replacement/upgrade to my Sage/Breville Barista Express. Will be paired with a new Niche Zero. I'm v excited, but I wonder where is the catch? This seems like too good looking a machine, with too many features for the price. I wonder if longevity and build quality will prove to be lacking. Hope not!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I’m almost two years in on this unit and it hasn’t needed a single repair! The thermocoils are high quality and less prone to scale buildup than boilers. Keep up with descaling and use hoof water and you should be good!

[@JohnDennery]

Man, you NAILED this review!! I too am a tinkerer (favorite part of roasting and pulling shots) and if this machine allowed for up to 15 or even 30 seconds of preinfusion it would actually be perfect for me. 5 seconds is a great standard but doesn't allow enough room for experimentation. I also love that the water tank is visible from the side so you always know when to refill. How much have you played with the OPV? I saw that the pressure gauge has red numbers from 8-10; can you drop the pump to 6 bar? I really enjoy lower-pressure shots from time to time and it adds another fun variable to play with. I've been dreaming of moving to Spain recently and when I do, I'll definitely be looking to Ascaso for my next setup! Thanks for making this video, quality is top-notch. Cheers and best wishes on your channel ☕

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Man! Thank you so much! You know, even when you’re out there making videos regularly you still get self conscious and the encouragement goes a long way! Yeah there’s so many little things that make this an incredible machine to use daily. Even though I’ve currently got the baby T on my bar I still miss this guy! I did drop my OPV to 6 and my basic observation is this. The harder you make the OPV work the noisier it gets and the less even your pressure will get. It does get a little tricky and it’s not like a rotary pump pressure adjustment where it actually changes the pressure of the pump. The pump pressure stays the same and the OPV is really more designed as a failsafe but you CAN technically use it in the way. Also, The OPV opens and closes so it’s a bit of a different mechanism than a pump pressure adjustment which is totally even. Does that make sense?

[@anthonyanthony9456]

@@DaddyGotCoffee I tried to drop my OPV below what it came stock at and it immediately made a weezing/whistling noise. Any work around for that? PS your videos on the machine are what sealed the deal for me in the end. Thank you for your work and very happy with the machine.

[@warwickharty172]

Like the review! Im upgrading from a Gaggia Classic. Do you think the plus ids worth the extra money?

[@ImportantComment]

Thanks for the review. I love that machine. Would you mind linking your favorite portafilter and basket?

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

For sure! The one I use is pretty pricey and direct from Ascaso, but here it is! bit.ly/3HsWb2C (this is an affiliate link, if you use it to purchase it supports my channel and you don't pay a higher price:) - Also, if you're buying use DADDYGOTCOFFEE for 10% anything on their site:)

[@ImportantComment]

@@DaddyGotCoffee thanks man! And how do you like the Niche grinder?

[@katlianik]

Hey, I love that you've showed the internals. Great to see they don't use plastic connectors inside (no microplastic). Would you mind telling if the plastic bit on the milk foamer tube connects two tubes or wraps one? Cause the steam gets hot and it's great for it not to pass through plastic too.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Great question - It does wrap around one tube, however, there is a plastic insert inside the steam tube itself (this is what makes it a no-burn wand). I am not sure if the insert could be removed or not.

[@katlianik]

​@@DaddyGotCoffeethanks, I've also sent the question to their customer support, will see how responsive they are. Other than that the machine seems to be the best in the price range.

[@edvenzke1575]

You mentioned several times that this is a thermocoil heated machine. The Ascaso website says this is a thermoblock heated machine. Likely would not be as aggressively priced if it was thermocoil.

[@mikewhalen-oit5202]

Just unboxed my Ascaso Steel Duo this weekend! Thanks for the review OP!!! With the water spout, has anyone noticed it takes some time for the pump to flush air out of the system, before you get a constant stream? Like 5-10 seconds?

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I would say 5ish seconds is normal

[@peterdid]

Would you do a comparison against a Lelit Elizabeth please?!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I’ll put it on the list!

[@ivyguetta3775]

Great video. Would be really helpful if you could share your steps on cleaning this machine (back-flushing the group head, descaling, and cleaning the steam wand). The user manual is not very clear on this. I believe there is a "clean" mode but the instructions on how to use it are hard to follow.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I get this request semi often, I should really make a video on it. In short, I just use Urnex espresso machine cleaner, mic it up and run a ton of it through the machine. Steam, through the group, backflush, until the reservoir is basically empty. Then I run two or three reservoirs worth of clean water through it. I don’t use the clean mode

[@ivyguetta3775]

@@DaddyGotCoffee Thanks for the feedback. Sounds similar to a descaling process. Do you separately backflush the group head with the cleaner and a blind filter basket? Do you separately descale the machine using a descaling solution? Also, are you filtering the water in your reservoir, or does it come straight from the tap?

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

@@ivyguetta3775 I flush the grouphead before and after every shot, backflush about weekly, and make my own lightly mineralized water. I only backflush with cleaner when I am doing my 3 mos descale/clean

[@ED-fd7rh]

Hey, love the review. I was looking at upgrading my machine and this definitely on my shortlisted. Also I noticed you owned the allground grinder which Im also looking at getting. Any chance you can make a review on it?

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Hahahaha! It’s literally my next release! Will be releasing it this week!

[@ED-fd7rh]

@@DaddyGotCoffee looking forward to it!

[@shawnsgear]

Great review! Thanks! At the end I would’ve love to hear the sound of the machine instead of the music. How loud is the machine? Also, what was the input and output of your espresso shot. And lastly, what kind of coffee did you use?

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

This is a great suggestion and something I’ll keep in mind for future reviews! I really should get a db meter and measure the sound level. If you DM me on my Instagram and ask for a clip I can send you one! I usually do 18in 36 out over 20-25ish seconds. This coffee was Pilot Coffee Heritage - which is basically what we use as a “house blend”. If you want to try Pilot, “daddygotcoffee” gets you free North American shipping with 2 or more bags!

[@shawnsgear]

@@DaddyGotCoffee awesome! Thanks so much for the response! Thanks for the code as well!

[@scottmcdonald1819]

Love to see a head to head with a brevelle dual boiler......

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

This would be a fun video! But yes... totally different machines at a similar price point!

[@michaelivory7606]

Hi a great review...will you be doing a review on the Baby T Plus? Very keen to hear your thoughts!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Yes! I’m actually working on that edit right now and it will probably be my next release! Stay tuned!!!!

[@damianhbk1]

Great review and a beautiful machine on your bar. How loud is that vibratory pump though? I'm currently on a Breville Barista Express (6 years+) and to me that pump is really loud. If I'm going to upgrade my biggest concern is noise. Thank you so much! 🙏

[@TheAlbaz]

Nice review. Im still struggling with the steak wand and milk. BTW I got the stainless steel one, and I’m thinking of taking off the side/backplate and wrap it in vinyl 😅

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

That’s a fun idea! Let me know if you do it!

[@glleon80517]

Great content, just subscribed. I have a Breville Dual Boiler which has better pre-infusion time range but no OPV adjustment although there is a DIY mod that gives you full shot profiling aka Slayer Mod by taking over the hot water knob. My machine goes from off to ready in about 5 minutes. Not as sexy looking!

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

If I ever found myself with a BDB I would 💯 do that mod. They offer a lot for the value. I’m not the hugest fan of the looks and the principles behind a good thermocoil setup have really sold me over time. Playing with the Baby T where the espresso is a thermocoil setup is wild. (Still has a steam boiler though for speed). The BDB is definitely on my list for some videos. Solid machine

[@troppsi]

I love the aestethic of the machine, almost all other machines are just chrome boxes which is hideous. It was honestly the main reason I got the duo. I got the steam upgrade as well as I'm in Europe, it would be great to see how you would use the steam upgrade when you get it. I'm a beginner so I'm not really sure how much to turn the knob when steaming milk. I also managed to burn some milk on the wand haha. Is that the default steam tip or did you change yours?

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I can’t wait to try it! You should just be able to open the knob all the way! 🔥👊

[@Sachman26]

I'm also in EU an looking to purchase one. Where did you purchase yours?

[@troppsi]

@@Sachman26 i bought it off a retailer in Norway, idk where to buy it for other countries

[@seansweet4883]

Great video! I had an Ascaso Steel Uno PM Prof for ten years. It had blue LEDs, which I loved, but no PID or pressure valve control. I appreciate the subtext to the brand name is now “Barcelona” (it was “For Coffee Lovers” on mine). To confirm, this is not a dual boiler? From your walk through, it seems a dual thermoblock (or similar on-demand heating technology)?

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I’d love to try one of those ones - and yes it’s a dual thermocoil!

[@davidhunternyc1]

Great video. I would rather have a Ascaso Steel DUO than a Breville. First off, it's gorgeous. It's luxurious, minimal, ergonomic. Kudos to the design team. Thermoblock water heaters are the future. The hot water spout is useful for many things. Vibration pumps can sound awful so it would've been nice to hear this pump in operation. A couple of things I would like to see. 1) Ascaso should make a boroscillicate glass or ceramic water reservoir. Plastic water reservoirs, even "food grade plastic" uses chemical softeners which leach into the water. Ascaso could offer a glass or ceramic reservoir upgrade as an accessory. 2) Allow pre-infusion up to 15 seconds. If I were not looking to purchase an Olympia Cremina and if the Ascaso Steel DUO used a rotary pump I would consider it over a La Marzocco Linea Mini. This is high praise for Ascaso.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I totally agree! I’ve had several thermocoil detractors on here and I really do not get it. I will pass along that feedback on the glass and have already done so about the preinfusion!

[@davidhunternyc1]

@@DaddyGotCoffee It's people like you who change the industry for the better. Stay awesome!

[@zenon3021]

I age my expresso beans for ~1 year in the fridge, grind them up in my magic bullet, then put them in a slow-drip coffee maker, then add 20% milk for a luke-warm expresso

[@audiojunk1337]

Super helpful - Just curious, the V1 is the model with the little silver "power" symbol on the the upper right hand side correct and no steam pressure control? I just got my duo and image that was on my order clearly has a wood side knob which looks like the V2 (giving steam pressure control). Just wanting to make sure haha

[@taylorhumphries5780]

Hi! Love your videos. I am deciding between this machine and the AnZa. Do you have a preference? Also, between the Niche grinder or the Eureka Mignon Specialita Espresso grinder?

[@jenserlingjensen5972]

Hi Justin, Thanks for your interesting review. Question: the steam thermoblock, does it have its own pump, or is it sharing pump with brewhead? Have you experienced vibration noise from the sidewalls of the housing? Thanks in advance, br Jens

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Hey Jens! The steam thermoblock has its own pump. And, there’s some vibration but in my unit it’s from the pump rather than the housing. I have seen the odd report of that though!

[@SteveHofsaess]

Great video, I am a newbie who is still learning, I have a Breville Bambino Plus, is this too much of an upgrade at my level? Thanks for the pre infusion tip.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

The bambino is a great starter!! Depending on what you are grinding with I would definitely upgrade that first. The duo would jump you up a couple tiers while still being approachable but if your grinder isn’t up to par then it might not be worthwhile ☺️

[@SteveHofsaess]

@@DaddyGotCoffee thanks, I have the mignon speciality grinder. Could you recommend another expresso machine better than the bambino plus, but a little less expensive than the duo.

[@kitcraft9516]

Can you pull a shot manually rather than using the volumetric setting?

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

This is how I use the machine a lot of the time. You just hold the switch down on “1 Coffee” or “2 Coffee” and it will run until you release the switch. This is technically “program” mode and the machine will remember that setting on whatever switch you held. But you can definitely run it like that every shot

[@sipntools]

Justin... you know this is terrible when I'm over here rewatching this review that I watched the first day you uploaded it 😶‍🌫️🙈

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

You know you have it bad when… 🤣🤣

[@sipntools]

@@DaddyGotCoffee Yep. No longer in denial.

[@sghofranian]

Thank you for this review! I have been on the hunt for the perfect espresso machine for our family and you hit the nail on the head about espresso enthusiasts and diminishing returns. Part of the reason why I haven't been able to make a decision is when I settle on a machine, I will come across a review from an enthusiast and it will make me rethink everything! I am now definitely leaning towards this Acaso Duo. My husband drinks back to back espresso and I drink lattes. We do like to host on a occasion so I do want a machine that allows me to prepare a handful of drinks back to back. Do you think this would be a good fit?

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

It sounds like a great fit! I think it's important to recognize that there are pros and cons to any machine. As someone witha young family myself I really like the fast warm up of the thermocoil machines like this - beyond that the Ascaso line offers a lot for the price. I also really like the looks of this machine in comparison to a bunch of the other ones that all look the same! It's sharp on the counter. If you end up buying an Ascaso machine, make sure you use my discount code (DADDYGOTCOFFEE) at ascaso-usa.com or espressoparts.com for 10% off. Definitely reach out if you have more specific questions on this or other machines as well!

[@Tamimzzz]

I am on a similar boat as you are. I'm very curious to know which one you went for at the end. And what made you seal the deal?

[@vivienl5247]

I’ve been wanting this machine since I discovered your IG page, thanks for the comprehensive review. But now that you have the Baby T can you do a comparison and whether the price jump is worth considering? My wallet is getting nervous! 🙃

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

This is getting released in just over a week!

[@justinbouchard]

you didn't have to say eh for me to subscribe tons of love from north of lake superior

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Ha! Good to see you justin! Are you Ricks son?! Thanks for your patience in my reply! Welcome aboard!

[@pammoore8963]

I’ve watched your video several times…yeah, it’s that good! One question: How does the white model hold up. The machine I’m replacing occasionally sprays coffee and I’m wondering if the white finish stains at all. Any issues with the color?

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I clean mine fairly regularly and it has not stained at all. Sometimes I’ll forget for a few days and still no issue! I definitely shows though before you clean it worse than black for example!

[@kanotrt]

nice vid. subscribed and liked.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

Thank you and welcome to the party!

[@benlain869]

I have just bought this machine. Can you tell me a tamper you'd recommend and which scales?

[@braxtonjens7839]

They really should make pre-infusion up to 1 minute just to cater to the different styles of espresso. But it seems like a solid machine for the price point.

[@DaddyGotCoffee]

I mean, I kinda get it. Lots of people would end up with terrible coffee if they tried to preinfuse that long without some decent experience. But even up to 10-15 sec would make a big difference

[@rxonmymind8362]

Ha! Just pulled a shot and it took a full minute (new beans). Did it ALL BY MYSELF. 😂