NEWS: Everything We know About FREE Legendary Alice Event

[@ASH-RAID]

In case you missed it, here's my 2024 fusion tier list to wrap up the year. How many did you get?! link.amg.gg/ok1

[@rodClark717]

Smart, using Plarium's past moves to predict their behavior works because they don't have much novelty in their approach

[@andyyates9176]

@@ASH-RAID none at all with all the events etc it's been pointless 😭

[@charleswable3339]

the relic ought to just be named rotos wedding band

[@TGR972]

None of them. To much ressources involved.😭

[@darylberkley3494]

Zero.

[@El_Sharko_]

I am SO happy the freebie might be a damage dealer. They knock it out with the dps login champs(wukong, rathalos), while the support ones have been pretty bad lately.

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for watching :)

[@Reggie2000]

I regret not really farming pinpoint last time. Im glad its back.

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for tuning in ;)

[@briannorden]

I'm glad we are going to be getting more of a character lineup from the story that is Alice in wonderland you know the He-man IP was awesome but we only got Skeletor and He-Man out of the dozens of awesome He-Man characters.

[@WolfBardOfficial]

Well it wasn't in the public domain so they could probably only use a limited amount of characters

[@rjb6919]

Ram man would have been dope

[@Turtleshellon]

Herman is a copy write. Alice is a free IP.. They didn’t do a Heman collab because it would cost a lot

[@ASH-RAID]

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[@MrLookatmyhat]

Sounds cool to me. Miss on not having the jabberwocky as the dungon boss tho.

[@ASH-RAID]

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[@putraceface]

Everyone keeps comparing this to the Asgard event for good reasons. But keep in mind that the Monster Hunter event was last January and also had 5 new champions like this event, so it may be more comparable. The argument against that is the event dungeon I guess, and the fact that there will be relics available here. I wouldn't expect everything to mirror Asgard, simply can't because there are 5 champions.I could see a crazy Alatreon style path event for the 5th champion.

[@ASH-RAID]

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[@jaymillze7632]

@@putraceface I’m thinking fusion, free, void, deck of fates, and a champion pass event like Heman

[@masenhime468]

Relic def caters to champs like Toshiro and Rotos with dual damage stats being HP and ATK

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for watching :)

[@jaymillze7632]

@@masenhime468 I think you are missing the important part which are the relic abilities. Most the relics I’ve personally obtained would be awful on champs like Toshiro and Rotos

[@alexandernejman4516]

I agree about the Champions and I believe personally White Rabbit will be a skin for the rabbit we already have

[@gprawdzik]

No, because not everyone has the champion, that wouldnt make any sense

[@knyght1074]

@@gprawdzik Not everyone has Gnut, yet he has a skin. They were both fusion champs.

[@nomadicgamer9466]

There can be more than two rabbits that do different things. Though a skin for Razelvarg would also be cool, too.

[@gprawdzik]

@@knyght1074 but Gnut was a stand alone fusion, he wasnt "re purposed" like OP is suggesting.

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for watching :)

[@briannorden]

I think accessibility is going to be key for the longevity of Raid Shadow Legends moving forward.

[@aelinstue9431]

Like free login champions, tons of free content with great rewards, events everyone can participate in once they understand the game basics?

[@briannorden]

@@aelinstue9431 I think participation and accessibility are two different things. I think that leveling up champions should be addressed. We have to level up champions we have to ascend champions we have to book champions and we have to mastery champions to get the benefits out of them.

[@jordanking5679]

@@briannordenthe least they could do is omit energy. They could also make shards cheaper or give higher drop rates. I don’t think they believe or trust how much more money they’d make if they changed what I mentioned above.

[@Turtleshellon]

This is no accessibility.. Only whales and high spenders and super endgame players will move forward in this game. They seem to have forgotten midgame and new players. Power creep has gone waaaay too far. They are going to have to buff like 800 champs or it’s over!

[@baalito8335]

@@Turtleshellon stay poor

[@MrMarkMayr]

I always thought VENUS was supposed to be the Queen of Hearts.

[@Sigma-Epsilon]

Thank you for the update on the coming new event for Alice and Wonderland. Ash, you forgot about the March Hare who is different from the White Rabbit.

[@drunkenastarte5243]

Who knows, instead of the Caterpillar, we might get the Knave of Hearts?

[@FPSpsychoYT]

Normally I'd be upset with returning Sets/Rewards, but Pinpoint is SO good that I don't really mind. In dire need of some more legendary pieces! Nice vid as always Ash 💙

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks man! Glad you like it :)

[@strategywizard]

So ready to see these new champions! I'm expecting great things, and Plarium rarely disappoints when it comes to character design!

[@swanchamp5136]

I hope it's Alice that is the login, i suck at getting fusions as a FTP

[@MXH873R]

Same dude it's too overwhelming and time consuming.

[@nicpage4075]

Partner champions.... Tweedledee and tweedledum

[@paynenation8871]

a fusion should only be hard if your early game are can't control holding on to your resources, because am ftp and I always get the fusion I want

[@jameswactor4353]

As a FTP player it will get easier with time save your resources till you have plenty enough to complete fusions then pick your fusions you want once you get 1 key UNM CB you can get legendary shards almost every day NM will get you ancients doomtower will get your voids I'm FTP and played for years and have a op account now that I never thought was possible.

[@swanchamp5136]

@jameswactor4353 I'm 93 days in I only have 3 lvl 60s, only just pulled my first legendary from a shard a couple of weeks ago. I seem to have a lot of healers and support and a couple of damage dealers in Husk and Magnarr. I think my biggest issue is Loki is a bit of a linchpin in some boss battles because of his true soul blessing being able to call down a meteor for 250,000 damage a time. I didn't start with Kael or use a creators promo code for the champs and I don't want to start again so trying to make the most of it. Currently got 5 lvl 4 food in the training pits. 1800 in gems and about 5 energy pots in my mailbox, not using them on the current dragon tourney, gonna save them when I know what the fusion run will be. I usually save a lot of resources for CvC boosting. Savings shards for another 2x event

[@glenncole8185]

I'm really looking forward to an Alice in Wonderland themed aspect being added to raid... hopefully it'll be a little bit easier to get the non free champions for ftp players... and a little side note...I love what you do ASH!!!

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks man! I appreciate it :)

[@YashamaruSensei]

- very glad to see pinpoint, i barely got any good sets the first time - the epic relic they give for free is very good for HP/Def nukers 😁 altho it sucks that the second stat it gives is atk, it could mean that one of the champs we can get during the event will scale off of both atk and hp, or we can use it on He-Man ...

[@richardstaples2457]

Cheshire cat or hatter for login, queen is void, Cheshire or hatter for the fusion, Alice will be like the Archer R. Neg-something that was smack dab in the middle of everything and the final will probably be a guaranteed with 67 sacreds

[@dr_nocturnal5486]

Just a slight correction, Odin's A2 DOES have a decrease defense with the stun and buff removal even when used as one of our champs. 👍

[@jewabeus]

I am excited. Looking forward to it. Equally excited about the artifact set as well.

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for watching :)

[@calandale]

Glad they didn't add another gear type. Pinpoint is definitely great

[@ASH-RAID]

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[@KIngaiune]

Well we know the fusion is knights rev so if it isn't Alice it's probably the hatter the rabbit wouldn't make much since unless it's a human with a rabbit mask. The freyja spot is probably the white rabbit and the 5th is the cat with the fusion epic probably being the march hare.

[@briannorden]

I would also like to drop a name that I don't think we've heard in a while I think people have been sleeping on Spirit hosts dark gifts I know her cool down is a little long however a complete cleanse with a block debuffs I think she can help out new players chimaira runs.

[@JesperRytterJensen]

It is a knight revenent faction fusion. Only mad hatter or queen if hearts can fit in to that faction. Where queen of hearts proberly fits it the best, but do think she is the dungeon boss and thus the void champion to be released. Think you are right about alice being a banner lord.

[@ASH-RAID]

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[@petarpetrov5646]

Congratulations on 400k buddy!

[@ASH-RAID]

Thank you!

[@MrPhotosh00ter]

Relic seems good for Rotos and He-Man in arena at least.

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for watching :)

[@savking9719]

Sounds like fun but honestly just want a free lego since my shards never give any because drop rates r so low

[@goujosatorou1628]

Same

[@Brewguru89]

Free leggos are cool when they're not bad like skeletor.

[@Elf3niona]

i mean what do you expect a legendary every day? If you can do unm/nm then you should realistically get 1-4 legos a month depending on your luck.

[@savking9719]

@Elf3niona 4 leggos a month if u buying shards 🤦‍♂️ clan boss only gave me 2 sacreds in December most of my clan got the same double drops unm and nm for a whole month and only 2 so no leggo more like every 3 months if u don't pay to get them

[@RoomahRaps]

4 a month this dudes smoking rocks

[@lifevsreality-tz3sy]

one of them will be a event reward for finishing firts in your group i am 99% sure then maybe a other one in a special path event last reward super expensif to get too.... ( then near the end maybe a chance t get in a shard sumon event )

[@drunkenastarte5243]

Probably the Queen of Hearts, as it's quite likely she'll be the most desired 'must-have' champ out of the lot. (...and not just because her kit, but also because she's arguably the most popular character alongside the Mad Hatter) Since they did a Champ Chase tourney last time for Odin, maybe this time around they'll go back to a Champ Training tournament, but (hopefully NOT!) with larger mixes of 150-200 players per pool?

[@debreas6207]

Since no name for the skills they instead on skill 3 phrased it “skill 2 by 2 turns”… not a typo but that skill 2 cooldown will be lowered by 2

[@leedunning1825]

I'm excited about the new event. I hope the caterpillar is one of the champs, that would be very different from their normal humanoid-type champ.

[@phoenixthesuperstar184]

Pinpoint is the SUGAR HONEY ICED TEA!!! If you know what I mean 😉😉 I think I will give Raid the benefit of the doubt and say the free Lego will be an account boosting, game changing "support" champion. Actually, a force affinity healing reviver would be great 🤔

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for tuning in ;)

[@cindysimko2954]

I like pinpoint gear. Could definitely use some more space for the gear though

[@time2pack1]

To be honest, I'm not that excited. Was never a big fan of Alice in Wonderland. I'm guessing the free champ will be trash like always. Adelyn, Loki and Skeletor were all mediocre at best. My only real interest is the dungeon for pin point gear. All I'm seeing is another shitty event to get your money and take advantage of all the people that suffer from FOMO. Have fun.

[@octavioochoa1857]

Just a quick correction, Odin does still place decrease defense with his a2 as a champ

[@feeluckgaming8935]

For login champion at least sun wokong tier lvl..and for fusion at least Armanz tier lvl...but this is PAYlerium so maybe..skeletor for free login and fusion just forgot it😂😅

[@erics1664]

5th champion could be the Jabberwocky . . . Would be cool imo . . . Thanks for the info/predictions I think you're probably pretty close

[@eliargumedo4728]

5:15 Odin had the exact same skillset as the Odin boss though. The only difference is the Odin boss was immune to decrease speed and turnmeter and had the normal boss immunities.

[@xtremeasan]

Hmmm good logic Ash, my money ($0 no pay january, with my boy Ash) is on your guesses. Sounds like a solid bit of critical reading/thinking/skills to me.

[@fartingfoxmaster7852]

Would be great with more storage space for artifacts. Or at least some way to buy more space like for champions.

[@Chef_Wigz]

That freebie milestone could be good for candraphon or an hp nuker, arix, taras, narses, magnarr, mortu etc

[@dustindecker2604]

No typo it just resets the skill cooldown on skill 2 for 2 turns. That ally attack is skill 3

[@shanelassey7222]

I think the end boss could be Ilosovic Stayne, aka Knave of Hearts. He is the right-hand of the Red Queen, I think he uses the Deathbrand skill. Maybe its a double boss setup like Cursed City??? That's just my guess.

[@seanachiescourt6659]

I think it's great that we get the same set as it was, because there is so many sets already and also the time to get this is very limited so it's cool we can continue to get better pinpoint sets!

[@Sir.Clutch]

Last Year start with big and good Leggos

[@gamingwithdano7614]

My only complaint about these event dungeons is that they throw these already farmable sets in as stage clear rewards as well, diluting the chances for pinpoint. Throw in other non farmable sets, make it a more worthwhile grind.

[@matijaarnaut4792]

very happy about pinpoint because last time my account wasn't ready to battle higher stages of that dungeon

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for tuning in :)

[@alphalitearmies9956]

Hope it's a champ that's useable in a bigger amount of the game. The recent Free Login Champ were all pretty niche and only good in certain areas in the game. Would actually be nice to see a really good Free Lego like Wukong, Rathalos etc.

[@arclite95]

The relics will have unique gemstone conbinations. like the epic with the triangle and square socket being the first of its kind. So at the very least go for the relic to get the unique gem combo

[@Dharin.]

I wrote this in Bronko's vid called NEW EVENT DUNGEON AND FREE LEGENDARY CONFIRMED! before much of what we know now... I'm 2 for 2 so far, with the turn meter manipulation being correct on The Mad Hatter, who I believe is the fusion champ by description, but with the odd healing mechanic in place of the spd up/down, so partially correct I guess. it would be interesting to see how close I get with the rest of the champs. You will note that there are 7 listed here, but the obvious mythical Tweddle Dee and Tweddle Dum, and Jabberwocky being the unlikely ones to be in the list. However, we do have that mysterious 5th champ where there were only 4 in The Asgard Divide, so who knows?... As for Alice in Wonderland theme coming, It is definitely her. Look up Madness Returns 2011 video game and you will see that Paylarium took that image and removed Alice from it, and changed the background picture of the Palace with the keys. It is dark fantasy themed. I do see some possible synergies with Alice in Wonderland. I'll explain... Cheshire Cat, disappears leaving only his smile behind "veil" champ. (HP) Queen of Hearts, everyone was afraid of her "fear, true fear" champ. (nuker) The King of Hearts, secretly pardoned most of the condemned "revive on death, block damage" champ. (support) Tweddle Dee, and Tweddle Dum "obvious mythical champ, as twins that have different abilities" so is unlikely to feature. (bonkers) Mad Hatter, caught in time "turn meter manipulator + spd up/down". (def) Dormouse, always asleep and is also affected by the same time loop as The Mad Hatter. "sleep champ" (support) Knave of Hearts, stole some tarts, "steal buffs/turn meter" (support/hp, or def) Jabberwocky, often depicted as a Dragon but is in fact, a type of Chimera (multiple creatures mashed together) This is the only other obvious (nuker). These are the main Characters apart from The White Rabbit, which looks to be Razzlevarg, so perhaps he will be the event boss to fit him in, and Alice herself who could have anything in her kit, and is probably the fusion. I would go with Cheshire Cat for login champ, because Paylarium won't give us a damned doggy to go with Packmaster and just love to rub things in.

[@richardstaples2457]

Incredible breakdown and tweedle dee (bonkers) had me in stitches. I originally thought that there would a mythical somehow

[@Dharin.]

@@richardstaples2457 Thanks, and me too about the mythical. It really would be a step up from what we've had before, but I'm not holding my breath tbh.

[@williamsheridan5755]

Hey brother, thanks for the update.

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for watching :)

[@ahoff64]

Still think Jabberwocky's gonna be somewhere in the mix. I doubt they'll do two rabbits, so don't think March Hare's one of the five. Caterpillar's just...weird.

[@tunoajohnson256]

Seems like the relic is good against def nukers if you are an att based nuker. Wouldn't be my first choice for a atk nuker

[@hlaw35]

Nice PowerPoint presentation

[@jeromesunio2769]

hopefully event dungeon gonna work towards dungeon divers for the fusion.

[@Lemonpepperwett]

The way they describe the fusion and the dungeon boss skills are very similar

[@davidjarkeld2333]

4:26 odd video, trying to upskirt the Quen of Hearts!

[@frickxnas]

I wish alice is a good dmg dealer or a good turn meter booster and support. Either of these with a 5 star will be huge for me

[@ivanodeta1493]

That epic relic looks like it'll be perfect for Trunda

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for tuning in :)

[@MegaMrASD]

7:41 in the promo it definitely seemed like Alice would be more of a damage dealer

[@bajkotamas1610]

Me personally, i am STOOKED! I've recently watched a playthrough of Alice in Wonderland (pretty dark game) and loved it. Can't wait to get my hands on the murderhappy, butcherknife wielding Alice❤

[@ASH-RAID]

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[@JourneysClassroom]

I think you've got it wrong... Alice is the big champ, she's the equivalent of Thor. She will be the fusion. The freebie will probably be the White Rabbit....Cheshire cat would have Perfect Veil as a skill, and we just got a free Perfect Veil champ, so they wouldn't do that again.

[@TrackMediaOnly]

I disagree with your logic a bit. The fusion was Thor. If you wanted to equate that it would be Alice for the fusion. Except I wouldn't think Alice wouldn't be Knights Revenant. Cheshire Cat as a character would have some type of invisibility. Mad hatter possibly, but character wise there is nothing there. If this is off either Alice book, then Humpty Dumpty is the closest I can think of. Though the White Rabbit would be the logical for turn meter stuff. While in spite of the logic I could still see Alice as the fusion over as the free character. She isn't a "side" character like Loki and could be more of a draw character, so I'd think she would a pull only character. I can't see them giving a titular character for free login. Some people are already not going to care, so how many more wouldn't after the free. It also wouldn't fit going forward as the main draw of things like this are the "titular" characters. Honestly this whole thing is kind of a weird one. There isn't a stand out draw on this one. Even given American McGee's Alice. I doubt there are that many people that played the game that play Raid for that to be the first place people's mind goes to in order to help hype it. And in that regard I think Raid is doing really poorly in hyping it. Unlike with Asgard people's mind could fill in the gaps, this one outside of those mentioning American McGee there is only remembrance of movies/stories and that seems weak to go on. Though CC's seem to be trying really hard to hype something that overall seems meh at this point.

[@Werewolfgaming5629]

I'm just waiting for the day where you have to use 3 or 4 legendaries that are available to get diffusion. You're going to have to sacrifice alice and whoever that you decide to add to get the queen of hearts for the fusion

[@cscottrobertson]

They might just offer a skin for Razelvarg that looks like white rabbit. Maybe a skin for Akemtun or Ragash that makes them look like Cheshire cat?

[@geminiman6128]

Typically all the Queens are in the Knights Revenant faction.

[@lordofalltime]

when will the "background auto-play" feature be added?

[@HailDarkseid]

It just dawned on me , that there’s no giants faction … or angels given their in game counterparts

[@ASH-RAID]

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[@mydreaminorbit9297]

Skeletor will have another vault buddy.

[@arnovanlandeghem6460]

🤣🤣🤣

[@expungerbaby659]

Yeah all these new champs suck.. now when I say suck I'm coming from have played the game for 4 years... Gnut was really the only great fusion weve had in a long long time. Oh and python .

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

I love him, he helpped me quite a lot with Adelyn and Loki.

[@magnusbjorklund1813]

​@expungerbaby659you joking right? So fusions like armanz and Thor was bad champions 😅.

[@LudlowSRK]

@@magnusbjorklund1813People always neglect those. That’s why I laugh at stupid.

[@joyabee2199]

I am a big Alice in Wonderland fan, so I am very happy with these characters 😍🔥

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for tuning in ;)

[@RaymondDoxtader]

Definitely can’t wait for something different too and a free champion yes

[@briannorden]

Kael got a new Skin! Fits in with Alice in wonderland theme, "off off with her head, let's dance till were dead"!

[@DARNxIMxDEAD]

One of the 5 legendary will probably be the knight rev unity champion - I'm assuming

[@shadowfox8748]

If the queen as a champ has the passive … build her no speed with full acc and just get a free turn when any buffer tries to buff the team you steal the entire team of buffs get another turn from the sheer amount of buffs stolen then ally attack …

[@one1charlie643]

What about tin man, or cowardly lion, scarecrow? 😊

[@briannorden]

All right Sherlock Ash good call out!

[@Elf3niona]

the epic relic they're giving out is going to be bonkers for He-man/Rotos

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for watching :)

[@mattdavis5850]

A2 skill name will be, Off With Her Head! or very close.

[@wesleyvl8572]

I hope we get the cheshire cat for free

[@Pindsay123]

My quality of life would increase so much if my artifact storage increaed to 2000 and my master vault could be increased a to about 800

[@pvlad209]

When ever was the main character the free leggo? Alice most likely will be the fusion as thor/ paid leggo as He man

[@cyberlocc]

Alice may be the main character but Hatter is the most known/popular character. The skills, and the faction match Hatter not Alice. It's Hatter.

[@fnt100]

I'm really hoping to see the Knave of Hearts somewhere in this thing.

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for watching :)

[@mew5701]

will there be only pinpoint artifacts dropping or also other sets

[@paulclarke8505]

Other sets too: Accuracy, Crit Rate, Crit Dmg, Curing, Daze. I think that's the same ones as last time.

[@mew5701]

@ i see thank you

[@damonwhitaker1282]

I'm a new player (42 days as of this writing) will be able to participate? This sounds like a long time game player event. That's ok; you gotta keep your long time game players happy. Just curious is all.

[@Angel-lg3xe]

Yeah I’m hyped, this is 100% needed for everyone to farm

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for watching :)

[@SeleneHammer-pn8hr]

Thor totally changed me speed arena team. I can nuke those pesky unkillables now. I've also been loving the noelle nic duo placing freezes while they jave block buffs up just feels broken ha. Hopefully Alice is dope. Freyja is my bolster champ she's pretty good but her block death ability seems buggy it doesn't work half the time.

[@mgkaung1287]

Don't worry guys I heard they have plans to extend the vault upon giving the free champion so we won't need to worry about where to put that champion in. Big brain plarium🤯

[@GoogleMeAgain]

They have over complicated an already complicated game.

[@leonmcburrows7727]

Ash, i have a question,im a mid level gamer , i am trying to find out where to get merciless accessories i know how to get the artifacts, but accessories ???

[@jimbalsoverable]

Looking forward to the new fusion

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for watching :)

[@aryabaditz3092]

there also has a good queen right? the queen hearts sister.

[@garycearley522]

Sounds like a fun addition to raid, im excited to see pin point and the event dungeon coming back and time will tell if the free champ will be a artak/wukong or a skeletor/ adelyn 😂. Love the content, the energy & the positive vibes brotha, keep the videos coming! The only thing i think differently on is the white rabbit, i think theyll introduce a razelvarg skin and progressive or possible a guaranteed event to pull him also. But your other guesses are in line with my thoughts as well.

[@time2pack1]

There is no collab, Alice in Wonderland is in the public domain.

[@c_boy911]

When are we getting a void login in champ 🤔

[@rado990]

I have one question that's not related to the game, but why Disney's Queen of hearts looks like Fred Flintstone in a dress ?

[@nathanhenry8537]

Great observation. How long have you been thinking about this? Haha

[@nicojoubert9338]

Skill two name is off with his head since that's the queen's main words

[@mattdavis5850]

Could Plarium be planning to finally give Packmaster his dog? The bandersnatch could be a likely dog champ for him. #TeamBandersnatch

[@dazfx]

Could the 5th unknown champion be hela as she is a main character from the asgard divide or has it been confirmed its will be a champion from the new collaboration alice in wonderland?

[@lamarh2891]

NOTHING, NOT 1 SINGLE THING, in Raid is free. I consider my time to be the MOST valuable commodity I have.

[@rhettmeyers474]

Obviously free in terms of not having to directly or indirectly fork out cash for it. Everything you do in life takes some amount of time, so by your logic no action you ever take is “free” of cost. The word loses its meaning at that point. Raid is a game. You can play the game without paying money for it. If you do it that way, then you’re free to play. Simple enough.

[@toddmiller2812]

I love the event, but won't be doing anything but getting the free lego. I'm literally completely drained of all resources after doing Noelle, getting my sir nic +1 and doing everything else in December. I went really hard and have nothing left.

[@Tugela60]

Bloody Alice the Terminator.

[@kaerrunedesigns7267]

I think they missed a huge opportunity with Tweedledum and Tweedledee, both Dwarven rares with some form of pairing synergy..

[@ASH-RAID]

Thanks for watching :)

[@LosrelatosdeGerman]

I just hope the free legendary isn't another skeletor... I have not used it as a chicken in the hope that one day it will be usable.