Ashes of Creation FORCED to Take Action After Community Backlash

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With the latest Ashes of Creation Livestream revealing the Tank Archetype... a large majority of the community were up in arms about what they saw, but not for the reasons you might expect.
In todays video we discuss the drama and highlight the importance of a human presence during presentations like Ashes of Creations Monthly Livestreams.
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Malding middle aged manchild complains about negativity towards a scam
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[@Narc]

Alternate title for this video: *Malding middle aged manchild complains about negativity towards a scam* If you're looking for a community to hang out in that isn't a toxic cesspit then... well I can't really recommend my own discord tbh but I'll link it for you anyway: discord.gg/muwNp8NhbB

[@Razdasoldier]

Small comment the gun load would have been a great spot to slip a like comment and subscribe instead of yes

[@aaronclay4665]

I mean….u getting neg comments should be expected since you bash other mmos ( sometimes without merit just cuz u didn’t like it) , so it’s no wonder others would do the same to ashes… Gamers now of days just like to talk shit and bash games unless it’s a 10 outta 10 ( just look at the new rpg Forspoken, a decent to good rpg ppl want to call a 2 outta 10 cuz it has some prob). And honesty u do the same with other mmo rpgs, either ignore the negitivity or stop bashing other mmos (some ppl like aspects of other mmos and want to play this , I like bdo and ff14 for dif reasons but can’t wait for this game too, but everyone is not as well adjusted as me. Just some advice.

[@redlion420]

we dont know a whole lot about Throne, but what theyve shown, its looking like Ashes has a real competitor now. Theyre also developing in house rather than open development which makes it that much easier for them to expedite the project and STILL have something well polished. But I'm keeping my faith in Ashes as its clear where Stevens heart is. And not to mention archeage was phenomenal before all the p2w shit ruined it....multiple times, lol.

[@Popsqawle]

@@aaronclay4665 Man, you are so far off base, holy moly.

[@Popsqawle]

@@redlion420 T&L Is made and published by NCSoft who have a terrible track record with anti-consumer practices and p2w in their games. They will run their game into the ground to sqeeze a few more pennies from a players pockets. Typical Korean garbage. Pit that versus Ashes which is fully funded and is not forced to make dogshit mechanics to push monetization and are free to implement their vision however they see fit, and there is no shot T&L is a competitor at all. I'd be surprised if T&L lived 6 months after its release. Just more soulless, corporate, greedy garbage.

[@Grinch-Sama]

I'm grateful to have such a transparent studio at all. They COULD go dark an only put out info a few times a year if they wanted to.

[@Grinch-Sama]

@Jack Marcuson lol I'm just grateful to come home everyday from work to relax an play games. Life's too short just to bitch about little things foreal.

[@Brabant076]

@@Grinch-Sama Nahhh bitching about stuff is part of life.

[@death2able]

@@Grinch-Sama So meaning you are grateful to whatever shit there is, "I'm grateful to have such a transparent studio at all" then "I'm just grateful to come home everyday from work to relax an play games. Life's too short just to bitch about everything foreal" meaning you are just grateful even this is just shit like what happened to AoC BR not even because you claimed them to be transparent lol.

[@Sackboii]

Ignore the people responding to you and just let the ratio talk for itself lol

[@ItsBluecheeseWithWingsOrGo_]

@@Brabant076 I don't enjoy bitching about anything. Either I enjoy it or I don't. That's why I don't give positive or negative reviews of restaurants lol I just decide to eat there again based on my own opinion

[@sawmanUK]

Came for the intro, stayed for the drama

[@Grux_ASG]

When's the next ESO video?

[@sawmanUK]

@@Grux_ASG 30th Feb

[@setheauspleroma341]

the legendary sawman joins the fray!

[@kingdavey90]

That intro was beautiful

[@protein3266]

Go back to bashing eso you wonderfully created alkir rat

[@therealzizmon1748]

THANK YOU Narc. I am honestly getting really frustrated myself when I see people say that it looks bad or unfinished because it literally IS. The game is years away and they have way more important stuff to work on instead of polishing animations or graphics, when that's literally the last stage of development.

[@dkslater4433]

What a number of people in the community are doing is similar to complaining about how a pizza tastes before it's done cooking in the oven. Makes no sense to me.

[@MD-ee2fq]

The problem is that nowadays games often get published in a such ab unfinished state, which is why people are so vocal about it. Ashes has shown a lot of progress in the past, but i still get nervous sometimes because i have high hopes for the game edit: just in case it isnt clear. i dont defend pure hate or mockery. Im talking about constructive criticism

[@ItsOctoberr]

They're literally worrying about whether the grass moves rather than taunt/boss aggro working properly. I really don't get how you people don't see a problem with that.. It's classic wrapping up shit in a shiny bow.

[@shongueesha7875]

Remember to wipe away the brown on your nose.

[@glenduhXDD]

yea lol makes no sense. "game looks bad". Idk why people cant compare alpha 1 graphics to alpha 2 the difference is insane.

[@hollinkarelja7564]

you are totally correct here narc. thank you for standing up for the integrity of the soul of the game and the type of real mmo we've all been craving

[@richardslade9307]

I was happy to hear the devs say they do not want “lawnmower” combat like so many have now. The slower more methodical group based fighting even on more “regular” mobs makes the world feel a little dangerous. I also love them bringing back a tanks job is primarily threat holding and damage mitigation skills and not just a DPS in plate armor.

[@ToneWV]

Lawn mower MMPRPG like BDO. I totally agree brother!

[@connormaclean1569]

If I could hope for one thing. Is that when the game is realised. This channel rises to the top and gets a massive boost. He deserve it

[@j.s.t.6515]

Yeah, that's so unlikely thou. People would have categorized him as the ApC development guy and all the new theory crafters and meta heads, plus the really popular streamers will stole the show as always. A little grim future for our guy 🙄

[@somedude4912]

I loved everything about both recordings. At the end of the day, im not watching these livestreams to watch Steven be cracked at the game, im looking at the progress the gane has made. AND THE GAME HAS MADE SO MUCH PROGRESS, GOD IT LOOKS SO GOOD I WANT TO PLAY IT ALREADY!!. Also, love you narc❤️

[@Lunethia]

10/10 comment

[@acemax1124]

Nice 👏👏👏

[@protobeing3999]

Tryhards be.... Well... Tryhards.

[@EB-bl6cc]

exactly. who the hell cares if he's backpedalling like a scrub or using the abilities poorly. is the game being designed well or not? that's all that matters here

[@stormtrooper421]

Narc's opening sketches are so fantastic. I enjoy the AoC updates but I always look forward to whatever goofball and over the top flair he has to present to us. Praise that bulge!

[@temijinkahn511]

Narc, thanks for calling out the numb nutz who bitch about AoC. I don’t want the game to be released till it is ready.

[@SacredSilence95]

A gameplay where you can lose if you make mistakes and you can win if you make good moves. This is so simple yet so rare in mmorpgs nowaday

[@sadeqali]

I'll be honest, I wasn't a fan of this game for a very long time. Just not my type of game. But seeing the passion behind the project and how much work they put in to make it the best possible game of its kind is turning me into a fan. Every update they release makes me want to play it that much more

[@jaxen231]

So you getting slowly brainwashed because of passion?

[@JonathanAllain]

Narc, first time I've been in full, excited agreement with you. This last livestream showing that tanking is real again, and wipes will occur when people don't run it well, sent me straight to their website to buy in. I now wish I had kickstarted it (had I even known about it, I just might have). I've been gaming since the 80s, and I was excited for New World, but it was New World, and only played for about a month, and everyone I know was gone because of the bugs, gold duplication issues, etc. Same for Lost Ark, but 4mos, and everyone abandoned it because it was a cash generator and no longer about gamplay, but resisting the temptation to buy more chances to hone your gear. I bought in on Star Citizen and 10 years later we're in alpha. I bought in to Pantheon and 10 years later we have an everquest level graphics prototype, which makes me sad. But AoC? The increase in gaming capabilities from live stream to live stream show me drastic improvement and new stuff from month to month, and I'm, despite myself, excited for something that actually looks real.

[@sylverxyz]

You’re most important video yet imo Narc. A balanced but passionate statement about what it means to be supportive and yet helpfully critical. Bravo Sir!

[@martinkulich4784]

Hopefully the devs realise that those who complain are usually way louder over those who are satisfied. I for one am absolutely amazed by the tremendous progres that’s been made regarding AoC.

[@lostinfrance9830]

AoC need to be careful. Once they start making changes for the smaller loudest part of a community which always turns out to be a bunch of LFR legends its all down hill from there. just look at all the other Big MMO,s over the years. wrecked because of a load of cry baby want everything now plebs. Do you Steven and feck em.

[@MalikenGD]

No, the other mmos were ruined because you don't release a product in 2023 and go up in players, you go down. So you have to somehow increase your revenue despite falling subscription numbers. And how do you get more revenue when the market is already tapped? Access new markets. Asia, LFR, more accomplishments with less grind, you literally just appeal to a broader set of players if you want more money. Any MMO goes easy because they want more people, more money. It's understandable, but also means the best time to play an MMO will always be at the beginning, before they start losing revenue and need to change the game to attract more.

[@Ecksplisit]

@@MalikenGD iirc Steven has so much fuckit money that he’s funding the game with no investors and plans on running the game how he wants even if it’s dead. That means, whether we like it or not, we may not get all that kind of pandering content. Personally I’m a fan of more casual mmo content but I’ll still play this game to experience what it’s like.

[@death2able]

@@Ecksplisit Compared to Riot and Tencent Steven is a fuckit poor. haha

[@gruntag5939]

Loved the updated recording of January's gameplay footage of the tank archetype. I didn't have much problem with the first go-round, but definitely noticed the improvement when Steven and team took another pass on it. Honestly though, while I do love to see the updates each month, I want to get my hands on it in Alpha 2 and really test our beloved AOC. Keep it up Narc! Thank you for the continuous enjoyable content!

[@MisterRollik]

I think AoC's team have shown and amazing step forward in their design direction during this stream. Maybe it's my Lineage2 nostalgia talking, but I genuinely think, everything they've shown to us looks so fkn perfect. Livestream reminded me this feeling of going out on an adventure with your guildmates to the depths of elite mobs area, to get your self some new good loot and exp. Ashes is everything I loved about L2 but better! The art style they've chosen looks magestic, the zones look interesting to explore. Mobs are detailed and different variations of them clearly stand out. Combat looks snappy and pased, every class has a clear role, and the tank kit is awesome. You can see that they are trying to add class identity in this game by building a true tank (a role that exists for recieving and mitigating damage and holding targets in place during battle) by adding skills such as Aegis and Grit, allowing you to control how much damage and from which sources you will recieve during the fight and also making CC effects such as Shield Assault and Tremoring Bellow with a neat spin on how CC affects are aplied, by making these CC effects stackable. All in all, everything we've seen shows a good direction in artistic and system sence, the fact that some abilities are not tweaked correctly, do not generate enough threat or that Steven is just bad at the game doesn't take away from the massive proggress they've made. Please remember once again, THIS IS PRE ALPHA2 FOOTAGE , all of the stats and numbers will change more than a dozen times before launch, you need to look at the design, to try and feel how it plays and then critique whatever it is you feel is wrong in their design direction.

[@LukeD02]

Maybe not 100% perfect, but mostly (99%) same as an Aion player!

[@shinrie4989]

Aion's combat was 100x better in beta than this. Feels like they just swinging sword just to swing it.

[@MisterRollik]

@@shinrie4989 First of all, I think it's a personal preference and I personally don't agree that Aion's combat looks better than this, check new lazy peon's video, for me the Aion actually looks like 2012 project. Second of all, you've said it yourself - it was better in beta, AoC is not even in alpha 2, it's 2+ more years untill beta at this point, and devs have a lot of time to improve, befre the game goes live.

[@alarde_1]

People just seem to expect too much to be presented on the live streams and tend to forget that most studios wouldn't even show us what they're doing with their time

[@OnlyCloud7]

"How can a project that is putting in time and effort into abilities that affect the GRASS FFS!" Literally made me belly laugh was not expecting that hahaha

[@3v3rb0t]

Insane intro.

[@theorbificator4175]

Well said. This resonated with me. I truly hope Steven and the bunch can keep their heads above water and see the trash talking for what it is. Open development at this scale is not often done. Intrepid is among the companies at the forefront of discovering all the downfalls of it.

[@nickh4354]

very good point. steven seems to be pretty headstrong and not really afraid to face criticism when the time is right

[@piterHW]

Intrepid is not the only one who did/do open development. Still, they are doing great job.

[@faintsmile3279]

@@piterHW who was the first one?

[@piterHW]

@@faintsmile3279 Not the first but not the only one. I edited my comment. I know about other studios like Unknown Worlds and Cloud Imperium Games that are using open development.

[@theorbificator4175]

@@piterHW Your right, how could I have forgotten about star citizen

[@askmitch]

I don't really check the social media around this project, and I only infrequently check their forums. The demo looked fine to me. I understand this is a project in development and after some refining, this game will be really good. Hopefully Alpha 2 by the end of this year 🤷

[@askmitch]

@@TallTaleGael I saw the one they showed in the actual livestream. Edit: I've started watching the recreated demo, it is much better

[@Nyce-Gaming]

Great video. People sometimes act as if what they see in these showcases are the final product and Ashes releases within a month

[@jefflee8652]

This is the passion I was looking for. Keep that voice loud and proud brother

[@stephenculcasi]

@narc I'm very excited for this game and it's potential but I think it's more than fair to be critical of what we're seeing especially when they're asking for it. I think criticism is fair as long as we keep in mind this game is still in alpha.

[@Wilbur_D]

Bullshit, I'm seeing huge amounts of negative criticism that have nothing to do with what was either shown or straight up misinformation.

[@Wilbur_D]

@@Otherwise_1 The base is boring because it's designed like a sand-park MMO? This is what we're looking at albeit in a heavily iterated unfinished position ignoring all the major systems and mechanic's that isn't yet live because everything is integral to each other and wont function alone.

[@Wilbur_D]

@Jack Marcuson Conversations i've seen regarding other games through his discord are timid compared to the delusional reddit threads.

[@johnmaco]

You know what is the funniest thing? I guarantee you, 100%, that if the combat looked the same as BDO, there would be no negative critics at all. I guarantee it. The combat may be complete garbage in terms of dynamism, complexity and mechanics, but if it LOOKS GOOD, people will think it's the eighth wonder. It's funny and sad at the same time...

[@Wilbur_D]

@@Otherwise_1 you genuinely wrote that comment with a straight face? i played new world to cap fucking delusional if this is a copy of the combat

[@ChiefToad]

No mmo growing eh? This just in...Albion Online is adding a 2nd MEGA server in Asia. Narc(mistakenly) doesn't count it as an mmo, but it is, and it has been consistently growing ever since they properly integrated mobile into the game. Indie company that actually takes community feedback seriously.

[@jawamaster]

Lol that intro was so good I rewatched it EDIT: Great ass video. The dissenters are incredibly entitled imo. With all their “advice” you’d think they all have doctorates in game development.

[@qowkerf]

I watched the Asmon reaction to the tank showcase. Holy shit his chat is dented as fuck. These people literally cannot fathom anything besides WoW being a viable MMO. Any point of contempt they bring up can be summarized in one sentence: "I don't like how XYZ looks, it should be closer to how WoW does XYZ." They have no perspective at all. These people want a themepark served to them, kiddo comic graphics (it has so much soooouuuulllll) and oversized spiky cartoon weaponry included. They want to resub for 2 weeks every time a major patch drops, do their dailydoos and get shiny rewards with big numbers attached. They actually like that system because they can pretend to still care about gameplay that way when most of them have actually long outgrown their passion for gaming in general.

[@PadMoJo]

I dont write often comments, but if the Devs watch your video's and read ur comments i wanna let them now that i like the development so far and i m looking forward to play the final game! And ty Narc for adressing this.

[@zegrasisinnocent]

Narc, there are naive people backing AoC who do not understand the game is years away. I know people who think Ashes has content behind the scenes in spades that they are not showing us because "its not polished yet" The reality is there are entire systems in Ashes that aren't even created yet. We're talking about a lot of work that needs to be done.

[@Sin3400]

Well said. Glad to hear you bite back and call out the people sharing their shit takes about Ashes. The incessant negativity has become pervasive throughout media, and I don't think it is only Ashes of Creation or game development either. People are getting nastier. This collective online presence of a toxic minority, really imbues their negativity into the entire discussion and development of this game.

[@nestorarcilaosorio2457]

Those intros dude, just...so good XD.

[@lakii1041]

I don't know if you missed it, but Steven already did hint that players will be able to test things out in 2023 so I would assume he meant Alpha 2

[@vrdynasty3896]

He talked about spot tests soon, but if I remember right he did mention the player count registered for alpha 🤔 He does like to leak things he shouldn't lol

[@edwinvermeulen8187]

To be honest i genuinely liked the chaotic display of the livestream version, although the redone version is so much better. The chaotic version reminded me of the very first time i did deadmines. For the showcase itself, i can see great oppertunities for MT, OT, PVP and many archtype combinations, that before the showcase i wouldn't have thought of, and this is with only lvl 15 skills. With my background of gaming, i still prefere the classic wow pace and difficulty, and this showcase showed that this will likely be so. So personally i'm verry content.

[@urud591]

You talked about the "infinite block" stance in other videos. What do you think about that 4-second block at 4:34? Is it acceptable or too long? I couldn't notice any skill in cooldown nor any decrease of his mana/stamina.

[@Narc]

I will give my thoughts on blocking very very soon, I have some strong opinions x

[@jawamaster]

It was mentioned in the video they haven’t decided what resource (rage, stamina, etc) will be drained when blocking. Or even how blocking will work.

[@urud591]

@@jawamaster Ah, right. I'm not following their streams, and from the footage I keep forgetting that this is still alpha. So it was more to show the animations and general gameplay. Still to early to talk about 3 or 4 seconds of block 😃. Thank you

[@Trendy-Trims]

@@urud591 Forget the animations being the target thing to showcase until release. Animations and art sides are done and improved in the last phase of development. It was said countless times already by Steven himself.

[@andreedwardsson]

As I have fatal dog shit allergy, I seem to end up looking at this part of game development as "weeding out players that I wouldn't even want to have a sharts ass-length of a sniffs proximity to the game world to begin with" Let's just hope the developers don't lose heart. If they make a good game, the good players will come. They don't need any more publicity.

[@billd7120]

Good video. Forgot to include the subscribers vs. non-subscribers pic at the end there.

[@Kingfish179]

Honestly, I think the game looks pretty good for where it is in the development process. Even though I'm not a huge fan of the flashy weapon swings, the new development stream actually made me excited for the game again

[@patricklm82]

what a great intro my man, so good , keep up the good work @Narc

[@baranteyfur4800]

I unironically believe Alpha 2 will come this year

[@Cooltrain]

Does anyone have a link to the original livestream? Looks like all versions of it have been pulled. Kinda want to see what happened.

[@TheAirak]

These videos are worth watching for the intros alone

[@ruinition737]

Fascinating how simping for a game became a thing. Feedback; "information about reactions to a product, a person's performance of a task, etc. which is used as a basis for improvement." Frankly negative or positive has nothing to do with anything. Better games are made as a direct consequence of feedback. Comments filled with abuse for negativity is just pure ignorance.

[@JustMe99999]

They actually seem to have quite a bit done... really looking forward to this one.

[@stevanmaric1362]

I am kinda struggling to understand how the opinion on this game keeps getting worse and worse when the things the devs show us progressively keep getting EXPONENTIALLY better and better. Like, how hard can it be to understand that this is ALPHA 2.

[@death2able]

1st of all it looks bad, its like they bought this on Unreal assets store and its probably package for basic resource assets, this looks generic and outdated. Low reso lands and other things with modern lighting settings via UE 5. 2nd the combat is boring, all skill animation is based on glowing and flashy colors when you tuned it down then it will leave you with nothing.

[@stevanmaric1362]

@@death2able You kinda rushed on the reply there buddy. Read my damn comment. I didnt imply that what we had before (alpha one) was OMG INSANELY GOOD. I just said that what they are showing now is leagues ahead of what was in alpha one. And that they are showing clear progress while the community is going from being in awe during alpha one, to just meh rn. Like, did you expect it to go from alpha one to BDO combat in one patch?

[@gaijinkuri684]

It's not surprising people see the gameplay showcases as a finished product, it's more finished than some of the games that get released these days.

[@thelushh8538]

This is an absolutely brilliant video, well said Narc!

[@mrlacksoriginality4877]

Am I the only one who really likes the fact that killing one enemy at a time is a challenge? I remember OG WoW how i struggled at the start since i knew nothing.

[@nekomusume9845]

The intros really are great, love watching them every time.

[@Glundberg84]

Hey man, long time. Thank you for that rampage of good swings against fuckings lowlives that measure their worth in others sadness. 👏 Loved it ❤️ Keep it up. Cheers 😀

[@slothking1509]

Can you drop Ashes of Creation and just be an anime skit channel already ur so good at making them

[@k.c.mackey3941]

It looks as good as it should look. I wouldn’t expect to be blown away by level 12 gameplay even if the game were done. Looks great for in a work in progress.

[@beachday4439]

The showcases hurt the game more. It's upsetting seeing a game at this level, it looks almost finished but it's still years off. Like seeing a PC update stuck at 99 percent for a hour. At least that's the feeling I get watching the showcases.

[@Razorfiend]

I watched Asmongolds take on the tank showcase and a lot of the toxicity is driven by people who don't realize that this MMO just isn't made for them. They basically clamor for convenience features and think that the exclusion of these features is an oversight rather than a conscious design decision. It is unfortunate, but the larger the community grows, the more of these types of people you are going to find. Things will only settle down once the game releases and people get to try it out. After that, people who can't stand the heat will have to get out of the proverbial kitchen.

[@guilhermeborges752]

That Final Fantasy X background on the intro just made my crush on you even bigger

[@Moonlaborer11]

If you want a good game. Then you would HELP the people who are making it. A lot of people don’t know what it means to actually help. Telling someone their cake idea is awful. K. Don’t eat the cake. Telling someone they should make a cake according to YOUR tastes? The cake isn’t just for you. And if you think it should be, you’re being selfish. Someone offers you a slice of cake and asks how they can make it better? You don’t berate them when it’s still baking. Either they don’t want a good game, or they don’t know what it means to help.

[@SocialFutility]

I feel you Narc, have been saying the same all over reddit and youtube since the last update, and all I get is pushback from iditos. But well, it's a matter of time before they realize that wow hasn't changed, that ffxiv puts the same content every year with exactly the same schedule and that T&L and AA2 will be highly monetized trash. And then you have some content creators that think they are looking at the final product, further spreading stupidity.

[@relaxedclaw]

"high monetized trash" because its not like Ashes creation didn't have a kickstarter that made millions despite steven saying he had enough funds. It's not like Ashes creation didn't have a battle royale game that they injected a cashop into, it's not like ashes of creation still markets monthly cosmetics for a game that you can't play, and it's not like ashes of creation didn't have an alpha that you needed to pay $100+ to get into

[@SkywalkFPV]

Ohh the fantasy and time that must have gone into that intro, mad respect! You must have been taking too much of that Copium.. XD

[@Vertilgung]

your intro scetches are getting to the next level lad!

[@nogitsune4452]

There's a lot about tanks that I feel can be fleshed out in more interesting ways as the game gets developed. I think light armor has much more magic resistance than plate so maybe light armor tanks can be a thing, subclasses might really change up how a tank feels and maybe being a Warden (tank/ranger) will make ranged tanks an entirely viable option (like specializing in protecting ranged teammates and using bows), the active block may become a staple feature that only tanks specifically can improve, etc. This is a decent FIRST showcase to give a general direction the tank can go, telling people that they are aiming for a more classic active-aggro management approach while also giving us an idea of what defensive gameplay looks like with active blocking. This is all entirely subject to change and I do have my own musings as to how tanks can/should function, but there is SOOO much more work to be done, and for a first showing I'm actually excited to see and play out the tank role in AoC at some point! I have grown to love being the supportive meat shield, and the showcase hasn't failed that feeling.

[@bubsjr1]

I couldn't agree with you more. The only MMO I play anymore is ffxi classic servers because they capture that old school great mmo feel unlike anything in years. I can't wait for this game and hope people stop bashing a game that is literally in development, not a finished product.

[@kdavis9948]

The comments or suggestions we make should be to improve the game and give us the best game possible. Its ok to critique presentation of monthly content. I know it's a work in progress, but it was rushed this month and the 2nd video was better. Also, tone down the effects for all of us as well especially for presentations. Instead of telling us we can dial down the effects, tell us we can dial them up if we want. Environment looked good and weapons and armor looked pretty good. Long way to go but its looking good and better. UI as well.

[@super_seaton9016]

It is baffling to think that the same people (seemingly) will shit on developers for not showing any gameplay in trailers and will then shit on developers being completely transparent through their entire development process. These people only want to see a finished product. Even if the game is years out it is taken at face value. I too want to see a finished product. I am one of the ones who spent 500 dollars for alpha 1 and 2 access and to support development. I have been following Ashes development since 2018. I've been waiting for 5 years. I want this game to be good and I am willing to wait even longer if that is what it takes.

[@Aryan-ic7ox]

ashes of creation do your thing, we will support you, give us the real MMO

[@attackogaming]

It is kinda ugly though, not the world, but the animation versus motion of the animation and the attack effects, that stuff needs a lot of work, and the reality is that it doesn’t matter if it’s unfinished, people make better animations for Skyrim in computer cafes in China for free, and they do it in record time, sure you can point to how poor the animations are in a game like eso, but another game being shit doesn’t mean this one should be, so it’s a pretty justified complaint. I want this game to succeed, and stuff like being able to optionally tone down the effects is a good thing, but the animations need a lot of work, a lot, the class design didn’t really bother me, watching the dude swing and float did.

[@KnalliPelle]

Whoooooosh

[@death2able]

If you tone it down then what left is lackluster skills and animation, what the problem is they dont have artist for this, they only rely to flashy colors for everything. Tank skills: Buff will color flash your character blue, shield will glow and flash color with light blue, healing animation is flash of color, all attack is

[@wessredd7237]

100% agree. Loved the showcase ..felt like hanging with one of the boys showing you what they made. Actually feels genuine rather than corporate bs.

[@Millie_Novus]

Thank you Narc for saying somthing I don't understand why people can't just be patient, we want the game to be good not trash like New World.

[@Grubnar]

I read the title and thought to myself, I have no idea what this is about. I watched the video and thought to myself, I have no idea what this is about.

[@gormok9300]

Your intros are getting better & better Narc 🤣

[@benjima100]

The only gripe i had with the livestream that they did recently was that the abilities looked very flashy, i was reminded of "Viva La Dirt League" and their "Epic NPC Man" series where a tank just wants to taunt the boss while the three mages blind him so he end up hitting a tree for the duration of the fight and not being able to see anything, eso has probably made me want less flashy abilities as abilities in that game tend to be more nature/element based, no giant magic hammers being cast off of a greatsword like one of the player in this livesteam. Great video, i didn't know there was any drama surrounding the first livestream, and don't worry about being over expressing yourself, sometimes it's good to get that pasion out there. Thank you.

[@Tilley53]

To be fair Intrepid has stated many many many times that the facts will be able to be turned down as part of players being able to customize the game for their own style and their own computer performance. I personally love the flashiness they have going on, but some people would probably rather see as little flash as possible. But intrepid has said there will be the ability to adjust all of that so I wouldn't worry about it unless they don't follow through and it can't be adjusted then of course complain about it.

[@idliketorant9147]

Do people not realize how good this game looks in a fuckin alpha state????? THIS GAME is in ALPHA and what they have shown rivals and in most cases surpasses fully finished games out on full release like come on…..

[@JamieR]

They'll always find something to complain about 🤷‍♂ To me this looks very promising considering how early they are in the process. People don't understand how much work an MMO is. The polish they have in alpha state is pretty solid. As long as they keep going in the right direct, well... it will keep getting better. Who knew that's how things work?

[@misterbrady100]

Even though I don't think Ashes of Creation is for me, I see what you mean. If New World taught us anything, it should be that it taught us if you divert from your core values you end up with a very shallow game.

[@madsandersen2743]

First I would like to say.. what a total fire of an intro. Well done. I am not agreeing with your opinion about mmorpgs. It’s not that the games have become worse over time, it is that people have changed in the way they play. With so many people having gotten an elitist mindset and checking guides for everything today. The sense of exploration you got from Vanilla wow will sadly never happen again, only for the first few days, or maybe weeks of a new game/expansion. Also, I believe that if new world had kept its more “hardcore” pvp in the game, I believe that fewer people would have played the game today.

[@SuperBlackatude]

In the future when Narc has 1m subs and an entire film crew to make his intros im always going to remember the good ole days of a green screen and some nasty pepsi can and pizza box stacks in the back

[@darklord3861]

okay that intro is too good how the hell

[@jamesraposa942]

I am still unsure as to how long the game will last if only cleric primary classes can heal how many people will actually play a cleric with it's same 5 abilities with basically no difference in sub class when every party will need one

[@danielbowen2523]

Ten thumbs up. Every show case has shown major advancements and information. I think the game looks better and more finished than half the stuff on offer now and just think they are working to improve upon it even further.

[@GamesandBacon]

hey, im far from a professional dev. but i love messing around in UE and ive built some pretty neat stuff imo. and man, i love watching ashes evolve because even with only half a clue, i know that this stuff is really not easy to get working. and to have 100v100 in the first alpha like that ? blows my mind. now with UE5 and the things were seeing, even just the foliage combat collision stuff is pretty fun. i dont know if the game will be good. but technically speaking, its marvelous.

[@NoFapIRL]

Don't know how your intros keep getting better

[@bb_bb_bb1515]

It’s surprising to see this video, I only follow the progress when they do the monthly streams but most months I’m very impressed by how much progress there is. I’m feeling hopeful for this project and I’m cynical af.

[@tylerturner8466]

Idk how u can hate a game in development that's like hating a piece of art that still being painted

[@audiolols]

I will say that a lot of people were saying the graphics looked like shit BECAUSE for some reason whenever Intrepid stream their gameplay, the video is almost always blurry and low res due to like bandwidth or the video was just recorded in low quality because its long or something. Having played Alpha 1 without UE5 I can say that it looked better actually playing it than what you see on stream a lot of times

[@TssTmo]

Its not a scam but they have things twisted over there at Intrepid. The games years away and they are already selling in game cosmetics. People have the right to question whatever they see fit and i dont blame them for doing so. Your definetly high on the copium yourself, take another hit, ill check back next year.

[@TheMikal94]

Totally aggree with you and everything that was said, and thank you for reminding me of Ashes's passionate worth and the hard work performed by Steven and his team, it's hard not to get influenced when the majority of the community so far are blind haters.

[@wildestthunder9601]

Honestly, I love just looking at this game. I played A1 and cannot wait to get my hands on A2 just like everyone else. Seeing Steven and the devs play this game makes me want to play it even more. Its just a beautiful game and they are making it for the right reasons. I love seeing these updates and just how far they have come since A1, this game is going to be truly stunning once it comes out. I do not care if it takes them 10 years I will always back these devs and this project.

[@RestrictedTWO]

Why do you want to play an Alpha so badly? You do realise that 99% of what you see will be most likely changed by live launch right?

[@wildestthunder9601]

@@RestrictedTWO That’s fine by me. If it needs to change change it. But just the pure beauty of this game is enough for me to want to play it

[@aessedaiclassic]

Hook me up with a video explaining why I should care about UE5.1 over UE5.0. they said it was transitioning in a couple weeks after their livestream and I honestly don't understand what the benefit is.

[@SalsaDiablo-org]

I am sorry I will have to disagree I think that you are mixing the issues. Yes, you are right. We have a lot of trolls in the comments who want to change AOC for what it is not. And are over critizing / trolling. But, no you are wrong. Several youtubers and balanced followers of the project expressed their concerns about the quality of the presentation. The fact is that the stream was late. The video was recorded at the last minute. The presentation of the skills during the live was rushed, unsufficiant. The video/stream was too long. Personnaly, I dont want to change AOC designs. I want to improve their presentation. I dont want to have a fake soulless stream. But i dont want to have the feeling that Steven is winging. I would like to more preparation, more explanations... AOC can not afford to show poorly their game considering their futur increasing competition. I would like to ignore the trolls to stay critical and help AOC. Constructive feedbacks can only help them. For example, check "Paradox gaming" video

[@CraikenGames]

I find their relaxed attitude during demos kind of endearing. On the other hand, it makes sense to put some effort into presenting things well.

[@albertgm2467]

Nice video, I couldn't agree more. I enjoyed the showcase and I think its because I already know that what I'm looking at is not the final product they are just showing the direction is going to take for us in order to give feedback. These people hating AoC are only frustrated guys jealous because the games they like suck and they can't accept ashes ending well because it doesn't have the combat they like, mechanics, etc. They already know that AoC is not a finished product and what we saw is not complete, they only want to hate and you can see it bacause many comments criticize things that steven already talked about like they are not listening. I'm hoping to see the summoner showcase this year

[@jonathanhaven1690]

Intrepid does a great job. An amazing job in fact. It's so impressive how good they are. I don't know why all some people can do is complain, but I'm convinced those people will never be happy no matter what. I think we should ignore them and their toxicity and create a more positive community focusing on how good this game actually is.

[@ryandunn1528]

Appreciate the video to support the ashes of creation team, ive been backing this game all in since the beginning and have never felt let down by any of their update videos. They are always something I look forward to seeing the progress they have been making every month and so excited to see the finished product as we support them and give them positive feedback to better the MMO we've been desperately needing.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

guys, I am starting to become seriously suspicious and concerned about Narc not actually opening a cope-a-cola can at the beginning of each video. like, it is obviously cutting to the exact same, old footage of the same can being opened every time. how can we trust someone who doesnt even consume The Cope like we do?

[@OldManWhit]

I'll give you credit for being a Valheim fan (oh yes, I noticed what you did here), however I do have to point out that you are seriously mistaken with your info regarding certain populations in mmos.There are 2 whose populations have steadily increased over the years, 1 is Albion Online, which I have not played, and 2 FFXIV. You incorrectly stated that FF only increased during the "WoW exodus" of 2021. FFXIV's population has steadily been increasing for years....since the Stormblood expansion actually. That was LONG before the WoW exodus. Bellular actually did a very good video about this months ago.

[@WilliamAGould]

While the group play was not great. The mechanics shown were solid. We were shown a lot of good things from the UI to item use to weapons and armor look in game. The tank's gear and weapons at the end look gorgeous. For that do not realize how important looting and itemization mechanics are, good look up Molten Core raids in WoW vanilla, where there were cases the raids had almost all paladin gear drops. For those that did not know, Horde did not have access to the Paladin class in WoW vanilla.

[@skafftaruss]

An uneasy peace between myself as a kickstrter and Intrepid. I cannot refund money because the JAG (I'm a US military retiree) said denial of service must be proven. Hence, I cannot ask for a refund for partial service IF I am not banned completely. Again - An Intrepid BAN is really a shadow ban. Can I say that? The longest game development in history.

[@lance4454]

Hopefully they make the spell effects a bit less flashy

[@MrTbone1975]

I liked the video from Ashes a lot. It was informative. Did I notice that Steven was not playing very well, sure. Did I care about that? No..

[@levikemper9158]

YOUR INTRO SKETCH IS🔥🔥🔥

[@JokeryEU]

problem that the toxic players are just 1% and its quit couple of 100k making you think there are many, would just perm ban them and forget they existed

[@zanetheshark6785]

Thank you Narc. Me and my partner are still having to try hold back the hype every time there's a new livestream! I don't understand the negativity in general, it's still in progress and really does sound like Intrepid want to do as much as they can to make a great game. Anyway the hype is too much, purchasing this month. See you in Alpha 2!