Ashley and William | Family or Fiancé S1E25 | Full Episode | OWN

An aspiring influencer is engaged to a man with no social media presence, and who doesn't approve of her new career choice. And while her inspirational body posts leave his family to question her morals, her family worries about his controlling attitude. (Original air date: August 29, 2020) Watch more Family or Fiancé on the WatchOWN app: bit.ly/watchownapp
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[@WalterLopez-bc7jd]

Waerryyuioxcvbuinkuinkioaxz❤🎉😅

[@BobbieSelf]

Bonded by trauma is one of the most dangerous attachments.

[@rayecaters2u]

It's the most common bond in life. The majority of couples, married or not, are bonded by trauma. Humans have a responsibility to heal from their traumas before expecting or wanting someone to share life with them. I'm not finna do life with nobody's broken son. Heal from your mama and daddy before you come find me.

[@teresam5199]

Definitely co-dependent. This is why both families said they need to work on themselves first before getting married

[@karenajones9273]

Your comment was absolutely right 👍

[@sheilae.9670]

​@@rayecaters2uexactly! I absolutely agree with you

[@juliascott1618]

Absolutely

[@krystalk8105]

It annoys me when a man meets you a way , gets you , and then wants to diminish the very thing that attracted him to you…

[@Fionasworld1282]

Those where my thoughts.....I'm like she didn't just start taking these types of pictures

[@TheMscobb12]

Exactly 💯

[@carraphillips20]

They met at an interview not a Instagram DM

[@nirizonmusa8095]

Nice watch

[@jcjc3914]

A good man will help a good woman become a great woman; a great woman will help a good man become a great man. If you plan on staying stagnant, plan on staying single... growth is critical for relationships and No good man wants a women who shares her sexuality with every other man. No child wants to see or wants their school friends to see naked photos of their mother and shouldn't have to. FACTS

[@dbrum1119]

The groom showed exactly what the bride’s side was talking about.

[@essencejackson8123]

Yeah I can see it

[@Mizz_Vee]

Yes, he did!

[@viralnkings]

That's called boundaries. Yall want a responsible man BUT y'all don't want to be responsible. Again, that's the reason men should never waste their time marrying any of yall. It's a total waste of Time. He clearly stated he doesn't want his wife to be showing her private parts and sudeenly he's a controlling freak😂😂. Damn, that's why we men are becoming Passport Bros. You lots don't deserve no good man for real

[@ronaldinioflorial6526]

Being controlling... Yeah ... I agree

[@queenforever2565]

You have to understand he is frustrated and the high level of stress is real

[@Beauty-ln5zj]

He’s disrespectful to her family !!!! He crossed lines and the way he lashed out on her brother , I can only imagine how he acts with her alone

[@gritsnwavy3059]

Sure is. Find him to get a job and a girlfriend. Sir, please worry about your half naked fiancé!!

[@kamaiabland2420]

he gets so mad so fast especially when her brother is telling the truth

[@barryscott1160]

Derek started the disrespect by not shaking his hand that was very weird and rude

[@IraRochaa]

That part made roll my eyes so hard, I would never let my bf/husband talk to my brother like it’s his son. Who df you think you are talking to my brother like that🤦🏾‍♀️

[@talk2mocha887]

Exactly!

[@nakajiablackmon8344]

is it just me or does it seem like Derrick's sister is jealous? She continues to say Ashley needs to be the center of attention, when Ashley is in fact very humble. Shes beautiful and it makes her sister upset that's the REAL issue.

[@ruazee]

She’s plain blank jealous 😂 can’t believe it! To the point of wanting someone else for him wow😮 Ashley is literally comfortable in her skin…

[@JLive-jt6jc]

Yes, unless we are not seeing the full picture. Ashley seems pretty down to earth. Ashley is good because if you keep bringing up what I’m doing on social media, you will get blocked. Problem solved

[@sl3904]

Yes, it’s the first thing I thought!

[@sexiredbone9]

Yes, especially when she said Ashley needs attention after Derrick left

[@BIGREDD9305]

Yeap. These the type of dark skin women I dont like.

[@reneshau.3369]

She needs to restrict his family members from her page . They are too judgmental.

[@DarlingWheresthecoffee]

And jealous

[@reneshau.3369]

@@DarlingWheresthecoffee correct!!!

[@Mz2Much2You]

Exactly 💯 They admit to watching her daily... BLOCK ‼️

[@saturnladee110]

​@@DarlingWheresthecoffeeheavy on the JEALOUS.

[@6ftNaturalBeauty]

She needs to block her man too 😂

[@liasharnele715]

He repeatedly came for her brother’s sexuality … ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE

[@tanishiajohnson9811]

That part!!!! FACTS!

[@user-ix3yy9dd2p]

No it ain’t… the truth is the truth

[@dsimmons3532]

Her brother felt that energy from her fiancé long before. That’s why he didn’t shake his hand.

[@joypressley4821]

Exactly !

[@asianiis]

Yup! I wouldn't have shook his hand either.

[@rainonme3770]

Her brother needs to grow tf up.

[@Love_hunt_show22]

That gay needs to grow up

[@annemcintosh2568]

Good way to start on neutral ground then? NOT! He was just seeing the opportunity to get famous like his sis, but he was playing a diva.

[@virginiapurvis3917]

You don’t have to agree with her brother’s lifestyle but you don’t get to attack him for it because you are mad at his sister.

[@Hellokittytheonetheylovetohate]

Exactly!

[@gritsnwavy3059]

I agree with this so much!!

[@47Ronin15]

nope he was mad at him for being nuff and disrespectful from we seen him on camera

[@BraveOne7]

@@47Ronin15 I agree he got mad because the brother is disrespectful not his lifestyle choices. He did cross the line when he brung up his lifestyle choices tho. He wrong for that.

[@ShyyyySativaaaa]

His lifestyle was just the punchline…. He went off cuz the lil ignorant was disrespectful from jump. That energy and attitude got matched and no you don’t get to pick what ppl say when they go off on u! 🤧🤣

[@Rukilawal]

The groom's family have issues. So because his cousin died he shouldn't get married. They're sick. He's not defending her but wants her to defend him. Please shift!

[@roxiestarr3430]

😂😂 I was confused. What does the cousin have to do with it.

[@harrisonkay4221]

Please shift lol 😆 I have too use this 1!!!

[@evadburns]

Naija girl. Last sentence gave you away. hehehehehehe

[@Rukilawal]

@@evadburns gave me away? Wym? I'm a proud naija babe.

[@DarlingWheresthecoffee]

I think she means it gave away the fact that you’re a Naija babe.

[@monicadavis9475]

I dont like how they tried to suppress the little brothers feelings. The man called him flamboyant and told him find a woman. The sister called him a diva and he's taking up for her smh. I would have left too.

[@genevievecherril9612]

I disagree. He disrespected him first when he didn't shake his hand. That's not right.

[@The_fun_fam]

Facts find a girl everyone’s acting like the man isn’t gay why would he need to find a woman at all so sad

[@lachelleheard7231]

Aside from everything else ....I LOVED HER GRANDMOTHERS SPIRIT AND LOVE FOR HER!❤

[@KuhlerdGorgeous]

I’m disappointed in the way Ashley’s family turned their backs on Ashley’s brother. And didn’t acknowledge the issue with the fiancé who threw low blows and jabs. This isn’t right. They need therapy and take their time. Ashley wants to please her man yet she’s not being true to herself. This needs work.

[@jayspence6111]

If he is a punk then that’s what it is. Y’all can’t force people to be except that bs! God is just as grossed out by it has Derek. He’s what God destroyed in those two cities…like it or not!

[@OfficialRealness2024]

I agree @kuhlerdgorgeous You can't disrespect people and then expect respect!!! It's as simple as that.

[@diamcole]

@@jayspence6111What a shining example of God’s love you’re displaying. Shameful.

[@NBC09]

Same

[@jollymollyramram9702]

@jayspence6111. “Except”? The word is “accept”.

[@marcellabenjamin6449]

She needs to run! Ashley’s brother is correct about William’s behavior and energy. In addition, she did not herself time to heal/thearpy and attracted the same type of man in a different body. This is trauma boding.

[@sunnybright8206]

Correct

[@kekecampbell812]

Yup

[@bronzb.1499]

she clearly still has that soul tie and it will always manifest in the next sexual partner unless its broken off.

[@hellome8899]

I was yelling for her to run the whole time. Him and his family are insecure and controlling. He met her as a Instagram model. Now it's what pushes him away. I understood the brother without him saying much. I couldn't deal with his judgemental family. We see he is trying to control her. His momma and sister shows it's embedded.

[@hellome8899]

He also has anger Issues. The attacking her brother was not ok. He is most definitely a narcissist.

[@torry24]

thats a clear sign that he wants everything to go his way. More than likely when they got together he thought to himself, yeah whatever she's gonna stop that if she wants to be with me.

[@Hellokittytheonetheylovetohate]

​@@hellome8899Exactly!

[@BLACKJACK-gf5wy]

She’s naked on ig…. Be fr

[@KingKong-yg9wu]

Well hope you have kids and you are proud watching them spread there bodies all over social media especially when they are about to be people's wives.

[@ElishaLoweRN]

I would really love an update. The younger brother was so immature but what the fiancé said to him about being flamboyant and to get a woman was disgusting. And this man picked a woman who makes money as an influencer is sleeping with her before marriage but now holy rollin’. Don’t think the family is jealous, I think they’re judgmental.

[@mona815]

I agree 💯

[@marcellabenjamin6449]

The brother is younger than them. However, his reaction was based off of what William energy is basically reflecting. Control and Verbal Abuse

[@Hellokittytheonetheylovetohate]

​@@marcellabenjamin6449Exactly!

[@MsChantae]

She mentioned her Instagram during the episode 😊❤

[@MsChantae]

She's very active on there 😊 so it should give you a good inside look into their blended family ❤🎉

[@saturnladee110]

His mother was mean spirited from the beginning. How are you upset about people being happy to see each other? She is miserable. Her son telling his Brother in law to get a woman, his mother needs to get a man.

[@FlowerGrl20]

I thought that was actually really sweet when bride’s family saw each other. Hugs and kisses!

[@sunnybright8206]

Just miserable

[@BIGREDD9305]

Jealous

[@treehugger6695]

Derrick sees past the Groom's b.s. and knows the hurt that his sister has been through. I believe that he also sees the similarities in the groom & his sisters ex, and will not tolerate or be triggered by their actions.

[@condesabeatriz9303]

Good point

[@chrisharris2367]

men know men

[@kennedihill4155]

@@chrisharris2367you sound dumb.

[@edevents7918]

Exactly… I hope she doesn’t marry him

[@Emrynbegaming]

The bride is BEAUTIFUL

[@vturner2297]

The fact that the groom blew up at dinner over the cousin telling him about a photo that he hasn't seen was very telling. The sister is very jealous of the Ashley. The mother knows that side of her son's temper. Ashley should run...

[@jessicam.927]

Absolutely right !!

[@robinwaley6850]

Absolutely!

[@bossladiee]

Agreed

[@MsTiffanyLove1]

She gotta run and run fast

[@mrslywwilliams313]

Well she is causing confusion and drama so she can run, but God knows she can't hide. Accountability is necessary for Ashley and any woman seeking a commitment needs to learn to make sacrifices such as dealing with the messiness.

[@CEOMommy]

His family is so jealous of her its obvious. You can tell from the sister and moms vibes on that couch in the beginning they’re mind is already made up about her ! I wish she didn’t marry him.

[@khandibaugh23]

@corielleclayton6073 I wondered about the sister too. Is she coming from a place of genuine concern or underlying jealousy? Is the fiance TRYING to be the center of attention? Or is the sister mad because "she" sees the fiance as the center of attention?

[@CEOMommy]

@@khandibaugh23You worded it perfectly ! I have the same problem with my in laws.

[@queenforever2565]

I said the same thing

[@dandriabarnett7980]

I don’t Believe the mom is jealous, I truly think she wants the best for her son. But you’re right about the sisters. The mother was seeming to be getting along with Ashley at the dress fitting.

[@TheTaran33]

His sister is really jealous of Ashley. The way she looks at her, so venomous. It didn't matter what Ashley did his sister just don't like her. WIlliam is controlling.

[@tamarahuffman2170]

I don't know if it's her being jealous but we definitely just doesn't like her. I knew she was still going to say no at the end and not giver blessing.

[@msdfw4l]

This episode was so disgusting and disappointing to me. Her brother didn’t shake his hand but that paled in comparison to the disrespect he experienced from her fiancé and NOBODY addressed it.

[@marieh9627]

Yeap. And he screamed at the brother but I wonder would he talk to an older father figure like that.

[@georgenep1082]

Why did they just gloss over the fact that he told that young man to get a woman. I would be done too! She’s wrong for not addressing that on camera immediately.

[@marcellabenjamin6449]

Right! He’s verbally and emotionally abusive. It’s very obvious.

[@ClarisNdoroRealEstate]

It's true she stood up for him but not his brother when he was insulted by the family dinner.

[@ShelbyJonai]

Honestly the little brother was right, groom was out of line in that argument and didn’t apologize well. William probably does need her, she doesn’t need him. Groom’s sister seemed jealous. Her post was not inappropriate to me. Bless their hearts.

[@marcellabenjamin6449]

I completely agree. When he started getting defensive,disrespectful and loud, that’s a huge issue. Verbal abuse! He showed his true colors. He not only disrespected her at the table but her family.

[@alexissmith7368]

yeah i got those vibes too , like they were a little jealous of her , i understand that okay you should hold yourself to a respectable standard especially now that your married but the girl is pretty .

[@allegroaffettuoso9012]

William comes up like a very insecure, misogynistic little man. All those muscles are just a coverup for how small he is inside. Ashley previously married a very controlling & abusive man when she was young and sadly she’s replaying those same patterns. His family is clearly just jealous & pressed; everything they said just sounded like jealousy. She’s a FITNESS influencer, naturally she will show her body, but there’s nothing inherently wrong or dirty about a woman’s body. If he’s that threatened, then he needs to deal with his insecurity because he knew what her job was when he meant her. He thinks she is “his woman” and has to do what he says, and wants some old 1940’s era relationship, but that’s not relevant anymore. If he wants some relationship where everything goes his way and the woman cooks and cleans and dresses up the neck, then go find that. But don’t try to change her when you know who she was when you met her. And he was trying to come at Derek, but Derek has been dealing with angry little homophobes like William his whole life. He was not bothered at all. If I was Ashley I would move on. That bulked-up muscle-rat is not what she needs.

[@melissaholder4231]

Having standards is not insecurity.

[@frankiehammond8963]

She was literally naked

[@allegroaffettuoso9012]

@@melissaholder4231 When those “standards” are nothing more than misogyny, patriarchy, minimization of women’s rights, and suggesting that a woman’s body is inherent bad…those aren’t “standards”. It’s just garbage.

[@allegroaffettuoso9012]

@@frankiehammond8963 She wasn’t. If she was, Instagram would have deleted the pictures. Do we not know the difference between wearing few clothes and being “literally naked”.

[@lalita_tripura4420]

@@allegroaffettuoso9012right ! she definitely was not you could see the top of the shorts. Lol @ literally naked

[@khandibaugh23]

Social media is a serious conversation. It's important to respect each other and come to an agreement. Some men are comfortable and some are not, and that's ok.

[@marinadejaramillo3006]

There's no agreement. You are a ho and what you husband to be comfortable with that.

[@l.a.johnson2392]

Absolutely

[@Yahya_352]

Then instead of him trying to change her fine someone who is equally yoked and has the same stance on that topic. This man is not for her and I hope she sees that.

[@nikophilly]

I was glad to see (on her IG page) that she actually heard and changed. Still promoting and being an influencer. But she considered him in it… that’s cool!

[@natsdaley9615]

Right social media can literally ruin relationships 😒

[@londonthomas175]

The groom just proved the family’s point about being controlling when he started yelling at the bride and her brother

[@Mariamsadventure]

He yelled at the brother for being rude. Not at the bride…

[@diamcole]

@@MariamsadventureThe reaction itself spoke volumes. Instead of doing something different, he ended up highlighting exactly what they were raising concerns about. Wanting to be in control of everything else but himself lol.

[@MRSBackgroundchick]

“If I had a switch, I would’ve whopped him.” 🤣🤣🤣 folk better stop playing with grandmama

[@dawnmarie55]

Block his entire family from social media

[@kymanid8236]

I felt like Ashley's brother was the most genuine person there. He seems to be close with is sis ain't sticking around for the bull ish. This groom seems to be one.

[@kennedihill4155]

Derek was not wrong. He was just unable to articulate what he actually felt

[@Shania-od5pn]

He’s was wrong, he lacks tact and empathy. You don’t speak to PEOPLE like that.

[@vanessawilliams6780]

He is a bit immature.

[@whyask9864]

Rationalize, minimize, justify and deny this is very true 💯

[@lonerVixen]

William throwing low blows to Derrick saying “flamboyant” “get a women” is dead wrong. I hate a homophobe!!!

[@ginalogan876]

I was disappointed that this was not addressed. They were really only concerned with shaking hands.

[@zztopdog]

OK be honest William tried to be friends with the guy in spite of him being flamboyant and acting like a diva so it was the gay guy causing the problem

[@lonerVixen]

@@zztopdog I don’t disagree. It doesn’t give William the right to hit below the belt and be disrespectful with his words.

[@MsChantae]

Like we know he's gay, why you telling him get a woman 😂 Omg he (the brother) is so handsome 😩😩😩😩

[@Miss_a_5]

I feel like William called him something else and they just edited it out.

[@aminaosagie18]

It’s crazy how will manipulated the situation with Derrick he flipped the whole script to deflect how wrong he was at the kitchen table to “Derrick disrespectful for not shaking his hand.. did anyone else catch this one thing about controlling men they like to draw a wedge between you and any male figure in your life anyone seen will grin when Derrick left and everyone looking at him like he’s the crazy one … did they not see how fast and angry will got ?

[@apriljoy425]

Do they not understand what influencers do? His momma and family are needy and negative. They want him all to themselves. Let them keep him hunni!William immediately took his family’s word about the photo and starting talking to Ashley crazy. When her brother tried to defend her he blew up. Ashley ignores Williams behavior. Derek may be immature but he is spot on about what he is seeing.His sister is going to be an issue.

[@tajachandler3813]

Run Ash you’re THE PRIZE AND THAT DUDE IS MORE SASSY THAN YOUR BROTHER 😅

[@vanessawilliams6780]

They are still together. Hopefully they got some counseling

[@QueenQueen-xd8iu]

The fact that OWN liked this comment has me hollering!

[@sharmawade5498]

I totally agree with your comment. Derek, seems as if he has some secret sassiness about himself. I believe he’s hiding behind his very own skeletons

[@am2k91]

Coming at the brother the way he did crossed the line completely! That showed his true colors .. "it was a lot on him" girl *eye roll* stop justifying his red flags!

[@kekewhitsey5888]

Ashley is a gorgeous confident woman…I think that his mom and sisters are envious of that. They came in stale and stank. William is definitely showing red flags, I think it’s more insecurity than anything.

[@icomeinpeace3756]

Not everyone is jealous

[@Missypooh562]

@@icomeinpeace3756not everyone but they are clearly

[@Dreamy_m]

They are definitely jealous and intimidated by Ashley.

[@marshiamaningi2271]

​@@Dreamy_m Nahh it's called difference in values and what they consider appropriate.

[@lalita_tripura4420]

The sisters are definitely jealous. They are comfortable with themselves , their looks, and body and project that on to Ashley. I think the mom is just old school. 😊

[@laaaa010]

The grooms sister seems jealous...🤷🏽‍♀️ she is worried about her social media page more than the groom..

[@dkstamberose]

Derek had the most sense. He identified the red flags, it's so frustrating to see everyone turn against him just because he didn't want to shake that man's hand. It felt like the fiance was using that as a way to deflect from all the other valid red flags that Derek brought up - signs of him being controlling, him yelling, and so on. And for the fiance, he met her as an influencer, but now he wants her to stop? Like why did you even approach her if that is not what you want in a partner...His family is full of judgemental Bettys who come across as insecure, jealous pick me's. A very disturbing dynamic, I hope Ashley sees the light and is able to run away as fast as she can.

[@kaylaj.3743]

The brother didn’t call Will germy. He was saying in general he prefers not to shake hands because of germs. He offered a dap and explained he why he didn’t want to shake hands. William chose to make it about disrespect when it was really a boundary. It seemed like because it didn’t happen how William wants, then it was disrespectful instead of being like maybe he has a thing against germs

[@tracywilliams7575]

@@KrysBrown89actually he only HELD his cousins hand. The grooms sister was on Derrick’s other side and you can see that she only has her fingers kind of sitting on top of his hand, not a full hold. I’m guessing as a compromise to holding just as Derrick offered a dap as a compromise to a full fledged hand shake. Will just wanted to control the interaction and when he couldn’t he tried to control the narrative and when that didn’t work and Derrick refused to bow down, Will lashed out with the homophobic insults. Then will got mad again when he couldn’t control whether Derrick accepted his apology or not.

[@queenofthej]

Williams family is JEALOUS!!!! Ashley’s Ig photos are nothing lolllll I was expecting something wild. Shorty was at the gym. Is she supposed to wear a burka to the gym? 😂😂😂

[@Sarahslater99]

William lost me with being homophobic towards Ashley’s brother. Completely uncalled for.

[@jayspence6111]

No it wasn’t. His lil butt needs to be delivered from that nasty lifestyle

[@Mariamsadventure]

He is not homophobic. Derek was doing way too much, attention seeker.

[@jayspence6111]

Homophobic meaning he didn’t co-sign to a man acting like a woman? Y’all want everyone to agree with that nasty behavior. Even God disagrees that it’s nasty and foul🤷🏾‍♂️

[@rhodasharp-mincey8766]

Dead wrong! But he wants him to like him?

[@OfficialRealness2024]

@jayspencer6111 it's hilarious how Everyone keeps ignoring you. 🤐

[@olaines9154]

She reminds me of LALA when wearing that ponytail

[@sarahlynch3]

It’s so funny going on about all this Christian nonsense and they living together before they even married it screams hypocrisy

[@nicolem2877]

Religious hypocrisy always leans in favor of the man. How many men do u know currently under spiritual discipline for wrong doing??? I’ll wait. ⏰. They prove women should not follow religion. They need to only obey God NOT man. MEN r not GOD.

[@beatforjesusbykellym2104]

@@Crazyborn74we are supposed to call out sin as Christians. It’s biblical. We are not supposed to condemn someone.

[@saturnladee110]

I don't take Christians or Muslims seriously because they use whatever part of the Bible and Quran to convenience themselves and their agenda

[@deonna9100]

​@@beatforjesusbykellym2104God don't need your help though*

[@gamingmom6164]

You know Christians want you to look pass their sins and say only God can judge

[@olaj3]

Why does his family follow her on social media if they don’t agree with her lifestyle? Also, she looks good but the robe post was tacky. No rhyme or reason

[@hersheylipz6355]

Yes I agree! This why I unfollow my ex its no need to be friends on social media. And yes she shouldn't post the robe pic but her other pictures looked ok.

[@delsgurl4133]

I hate the way he spoke to her brother, I agree with her brother and I hate how he was dismissed. Imo there's nothing wrong with her picture 🤷🏿‍♀️ he's trying to dim her light.

[@Diamonds2477]

Derek is not wrong. Just because he's young it doesn't mean that he is not intelligent. Just because he's telling the truth un-filtered they using his youth, saying brat, not raised like that etc. Derek is right and he doesn't like the groom controlling 1970s behaviour to this young girl who wants to show all herself on the internet etc. The groom is borderline holds anger and it will burst out and destroy their marriage if they get married. That is just my views. But in my heart 💜 100% Derek is right. I wish them all well.

[@Shalayah2010]

1970s behavior?? You’re what’s wrong with the women today. He has every right to not want his soon to be WIFE showing herself on the internet.

[@sterlingneely7737]

1970s, back when the divorce rate wasnt at 50%

[@notlikeleonte]

y@@sterlingneely7737 yes but many ppl were miserable & women couldn't get bank accounts

[@sterlingneely7737]

@@notlikeleonte I feel you.

[@danzidae]

Derrick is a DIVA. Him rolling up that window on his grandmother got me HEATED.

[@secureshot858]

He's a diva but why do you care if he is one tho that's his life not yours so stop judging people and judge your self

[@danzidae]

@@secureshot858 diva in the sense of his behavior not his sexuality 😒😒😒😒😒 you even co-signed and called him a Diva yourself - how does that make you any better than me?

[@secureshot858]

@@danzidae my fault about not understanding what diva meant

[@khandibaugh23]

@danzidae8515 Exactly. People are quick to try to turn something into an argument. I understood what you were saying.

[@secureshot858]

@@danzidae I wasn't calling him a diva I said that because you called him that but I put it in the wrong way

[@Miss_a_5]

I love ashley she seems so sweet and humble. They are married now with two more kids. She’s still an influencer and is on tiktok ,

[@ruach32]

That great what her social name ?

[@somebodysfineauntie36]

​@@ruach32ashleynoswiper

[@FrancineFelicity]

@@ruach32ashleynoswiper

[@Miss_a_5]

Ashleynoswiper1

[@condesabeatriz9303]

​@@Miss_a_5thanks! They are thriving by the looks of her IG and I love that for them!

[@CamerasSmilesLove]

This "man" is a controlling, bully, dangerous individual... She better RUN while she can!!!

[@lonerVixen]

The sisters energy screams jealousy .. ew. I bet she ain’t got a man! Happy the mom approves

[@nickypropa1293]

A kingdom husband will Never accept his wife exposing herself. The fact that society normalize these behavior is beyond scary.

[@kshatriyacuff7234]

I agree with you. She doesn't carry herself like a wife should.

[@lakita619]

Agreed

[@lakita619]

I see people in the comments saying his family is hating or jealous but they are telling the truth ! Save that for your husband not the internet . And then it gives off the wrong image, I’m sure she is a good girl it’s just the perception that we see

[@msbe.9792]

EXACTLY

[@jobi-j]

If he didn't like it then why claim it?

[@saythatszion]

What the groom doesnt understand is that when you violate someone's manhood because of your opinion those are deeply rooted feelings that dont go away with a handshake after you blew up on them

[@sodvine3486]

What manhood you're talking about cuz I don't see it

[@shynbryt11]

That’s how she makes money, taking pictures, she has a business. His family is weird. The way he attacked the young man is unacceptable!!!

[@smartandstreet]

😂

[@carebear01]

There’s no way I would just sit there and let some fool talk to my brother like that smh…

[@aprilarrington878]

Yes I feel the same way nobody is addressing what he said to Derek

[@icomeinpeace3756]

I like the brother lol. He confident af i respect it

[@virginiapurvis3917]

The groom is a total narcissist. Everything is about him.

[@oyemekoehis3960]

what you know about narcissist do you know what a narcissist is can u define it another female using words she heard on the internet

[@xandrafrancois]

She escaped from a controller en leapt in the arms of another one. She should have waited to recover and find out why she stayed so long in a abusive relationship.

[@RebelRouserEsq]

His sister is a hater 😂😂😂😂

[@dollskull86]

Big jealous!!!!

[@MrTwonetwone]

I would want my sister to tell me if my fiancé was naked on social media

[@justcallmebetty7717]

​@@MrTwonetwonewhy should she have to tell him ANYTHING about his fiancee when he MET her doing what she does? And her private areas were covered...and that brother can make his point but he was out of pocket coming through the door, but her husband to be needs to calm down with the neanderthal way of thinking

[@AyeTheG]

HEAVY ON THAT

[@destinymiller6122]

And the cousin too !! She need to stay in her place 😭

[@abby7639]

Sheesh, just went to her IG apparently they stayed together n have kids. May god continue to bless this family. I wonder if that sisters still a hater LMAO

[@patienced4320]

What’s her instagram

[@abby7639]

@@patienced4320 ashleynoswiper

[@Tricyyyland]

@@patienced4320ashleyynoswiper

[@MrTwonetwone]

@@patienced4320 16:36 it says ashleynoswiper

[@FeliciaJohns-lr8zt]

AMEN

[@nikkimullins4566]

The groom is jekyll and Hyde 😮😬 He might end up putting hands on her!

[@erijulie]

Unpopular opinion: I think derrek was a brat and the groom truly matured … the grooms family is definitely jealous . The bride is sweet

[@mrs.godblessmeh9406]

Ashley BETTER RUN, William has three Big problems .... William is controlling, aggressive, and mean. I can see it all. Red Flaggg, Sis run please.

[@theresadyer9856]

The grooms sister is jealous of his future wife facts….

[@jalisanashae4058]

It’s his homophobic comments when he got mad for me . They could’ve had an disagreement without him bringing out his sexuality

[@Mina07310]

That picture was ABSOLUTELY INAPPROPRIATE IF UR TRYING TO GET A HUSBAND...PERIODT

[@olaines9154]

The brothers face😂 “ I don’t care, I ain’t marrying her so I don’t care.” Eye rolls 😂😂😂 Flamboyant and over the top.

[@GoneColoring]

Lmfao the brother was right and she gonna learn the hard way.

[@deniseclemmons7842]

For a minute I thought William was a little undercover 👀 him and Derrek just dislike each other a lot much. He has flamboyant ways as well.

[@TheRealLeciM]

I also feel like his family doesn’t like her because of her vanity and that’s the same reason why he wants her. If she wasn’t into herself, he wouldn’t want her. The sister also seems jealous tbh.

[@RudeAttitude_3]

I can’t stand moms who don’t want their sons to leave the nest. Like girl move around, who do you want him to date, you ?!!

[@lovemesh09]

The brother was right 🤷🏾‍♀️ the groom has angry issues period . And the one sister is just jealous of Ashely. I hope his family sees this and how ugly they treated them people .

[@Yourfavorite-cx6jz]

his mother and sister have the nastiest stick up vibes. see some jealousy. Ashley is beautiful . certain pictures shouldn’t taken if in a relationship however her body isn’t their business… her fiancé mentioning her faith being the reason for not doing things instead of him telling her not to post is funny and a lie

[@najwa777]

You shouldn’t have to change yourself and what you like for a relationship. He should love you the way you are, flaws and all!! When she said she needed to get the wedding dress top changed… Im like oh no… she gonna be changing things the rest of her life… she’s going to be miserable… he definitely has control issues…

[@KingKong-yg9wu]

if thats you mind set, then marriage ain't for you, every happily married person has somethings they compromised on.

[@ja-netmelson7727]

Grandma look like she can be her sister ❤❤❤❤…

[@dawnhunter1534]

Its messed up how her brother went to war for her honor and she tried to put him on blast for the love of her man in front of her and his family which is what her narcissist fiance wanted. His family saw right throught it. His sister said ashley likes attention. She could have pulled her brother to the side.

[@Poni4209]

Where are the patriarchs in both families? I feel like the tone of the whole episode would've been less catty.

[@lucieconkova3452]

How dare the sister said I will find you someone else sound so bitter and jealous she needs to mind her own business and find her self something better to do than be in you brother relationship smh

[@gcchair7634]

Ashley’s brother is too extra…turn it down….His mom is too mean. Too many too extra. The families love their people…❤ BTW Grandma is FLY!!!!!

[@nayego4]

Yaaas that grandma loooks super young super young😊

[@fattamama85]

I strongly feel like no one should never tell anybody that they’re dealing with about their past because now I start to see that a lot of people will use or take advantage of peoples past and still trying to bring it into the future. I just pray for this woman to have better days and to literally take your time to get married. If you just got out of an abusive relationship, you shouldn’t be jumping into another one not everybody’s going to be your superhero you gotta be your own.

[@NolaDarling333]

That head turn from granny when the sister-in-law started talking 😂😂😂

[@Talking_With_Gabrielle]

I started watching only to judge once this girl stated she was still legally married when they met. Disorder, confusion and peace can’t exist within the same frequency.

[@anadjape381]

The sister of the groom is very jealous of ashley. I can feel the hate through the screen....

[@ausomelovely2857]

Derrick’s sister is a problem!!! Ashley’s brothers outburst is concerning…..and Derrick’s reaction to her brother is concerning😱🎯. Hope they’re able to work things out completely

[@asiakelley4672]

He and the brother have a lot in common…

[@renesharogers270]

They're more focused on why Derrick didn't shake his hand but didn't even have a conversation about the comments Will made. I don't blame Derrick for leaving

[@sadaeya868]

I CCAAAAANTTTTR BE WITH A MAN LIKE THAT LMFAOOOOOOOOO. NEXT. BYE. you ain’t stopping my bag period !

[@seandennis4822]

He had issues since the beginning about social media, but you stayed with him. She moved in with a man the day after she signed her divorce papers. The brother throwing stones in a glass house, but hides his hand when the stones get thrown back. Everyone else knows they have no business being together.

[@amentheblackonechannel7019]

You just call them animals because they are glad to see each others , not nice mom not nice .

[@withloveleemu]

The Groom to be sisters are very jealous of the bride to be! You can tell that she is beautiful inside and out! Girl, I hope all is well with you and your family! Marriage is no joke especially when there are insecurities and jealousy. Be careful.

[@brittanylync]

I didn’t think the pic was that problematic. You can see she was covered .

[@itsmejessicajane]

Aww.....I had to look them up after this episode. They really are thriving and I love that for them and their family. So Beautiful🥰🥰

[@brandymonique9560]

What's their ig?

[@itsmejessicajane]

@@brandymonique9560 Ashleynoswiper is hers

[@dbeloved02]

His sister is a hater

[@dollskull86]

Babbbyyyyy if I had that body, I WOULD BE GONE!!!! 😅😂

[@valerieholsendorff752]

The sister feels threatened by the fact she was able to help him heal thru the trauma of his brother/cousin’s death and he didn’t get that from her. She needs to get over it and realize another woman can take precedence over a family member in their life. Sis needs a life IMMEDIATELY lol

[@yahrayanaarah6891]

When you are becoming a wife! Changes are inevitable and needed! It's not about control it's about compromise! The Bible says a woman is to dress modestly, She won't be single so she can't move single she represents him and he represents her! IT'S MARRIAGE not boyfriend girlfriend 😶

[@hersheylipz6355]

Excalty!!

[@tanishiajohnson9811]

It is also "biblical" to stay married, that did not happen for her. And technically no one has spoken to all the values he so called has but THEY LIVE TOGETHER and ARE INTIMATE just 4 months after her divorce and I am willing to bet they were intimate before that move in and her divorce being finalized which means broken vows and coveting for the both of them. NO HEAT/NO JUDGEMENT FROM ME, JUST POINTING OUT ALLL the daggers toward her which is unfair. So I doubt this on his behalf it was about modesty or values because you don't enter (or even explore) a relationship with a married woman. It's about control on his part, not modesty. VERY hypocritical and I can not believe NO ONE mentioned his hypocrisy. His anger was alarming-it is a red flag. They're shacking up but every one is ok with that and focused on her pictures online not being Godly. Whew! He also disrespected her brother with that subliminal dig about his sexuality and that was offensive. I also saw on IG they are now married with 2 kids AND he made breakfast on their live with no shirt on-full top part of his body completely exposed in the video...hypocrisy.

[@knightowl368]

What William said to the brother was wrong, but to see how people rationalized how the brother acted is crazy. It's all toxic. Ashley needs to take care of herself first and the same for William. They both need to establish boundaries with their family and they might need to not discuss their relationship with them. Counseling is a must, in my opinion, for those two to be successful in the future.

[@arianajeanelle3]

his family is jealous of ashley because neither of them could EVER do what she is doing . her posts arent even raunchy , it should matter how HE feels not their opinion at all .