Driving Fail Viewers Edition #15 | Biker Down!

In this episode a motorcyclist gets missed when turning right at a mini roundabout. I'd like to say a massive thanks to all my contributors for sending in these amazing clips!
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[@Jonc25]

Clip 2. Just let it go. clip 6. It was 70mph winds, not aquaplaning that blew me towards the hard shoulder. 👍 Clip 8. "Glad that clip is over" so is everyone else. Do you trust google to get you where your going, only if you want to end up in the middle of a motorway for some postcodes, lol. The biker made himself invisible. Great upload. Thanks for using mine. Thanks to the other viewers, for their clips.

[@ashley_neal]

Cheers for the update Jon 👍🏼

[@Jonc25]

@@ashley_neal New work trousers took 3 days to arrive.😄 cheers.

[@PedroConejo1939]

@@Jonc25 They did if they were carried anywhere near the junction in clip 8. BTW, I thought as I watched it that you were too experienced to allow your vehicle to aquaplane, thanks for the clarification.

[@archechme]

You dealt with that very well. Just looked at the junction on google maps and apart from the magic roundabout (Swindon) and The Geldered road interchange (Birstall, Leeds), that is one of the worst junctions I have ever seen.

[@BrightonandHoveActually]

Google maps once used to show a road going through what is actually my office! It took a threat to use GDPR against Google to get it rectified.

[@MrJoseEatonio]

The dry, “I’m glad that clips over...” absolutely cracked me up 😂

[@ashley_neal]

😁

[@kevinmartin2516]

@@ashley_neal What is the alleged advantage of two GPS's anyway?

[@Ed.E]

@@kevinmartin2516 I don't know tbh. Google Maps is traffic aware and has good rerouting algorithms. If he doesn't like it he could use a different app

[@houseproudcheshirelad50015]

In clip 8 I'd laugh if one sat nav told the other to shut up.

[@Matthew-bu7fg]

1:06 - The courtesy car driver seemed very sour judging by that reaction ;) In all seriousness, the cammer there also submitted their clip to UK Dash Cams a week or so ago so they obviously love the attention their clips generate as opposed to knowing how to drive properly

[@PedroConejo1939]

I saw it there too. The cammer really milked the emergency stop though. Once the hazard is avoided, drive on without engaging - even just stopping to avoid a collision is enough to trigger some people. If you stop to argue with every dullard like that, one day you'll encounter one with a weapon.

[@chromiumphotography5138]

It does make you wonder why the driver in the courtesy vehicle had it in the first place - emerging like that from the wrong side of the road.

[@andrewryder9642]

On the motorcycle crash, I can think of 3 things he could have done differently: 1) Leaving more space between the car in front which would make the bike more visible to the oncoming car and would give the bike more visibility. 2) taking the correct line around the roundabout. 3) better anticipation that a car will pull out. Especially when on a bike.

[@frankhaney8535]

Clip #2: Maybe the poor driving of the person in the courtesy car explains why they were in a courtesy car in the first place. The other driver should have just carried on once the car reversed back into the junction.

[@johnb8956]

It feels very much like a dash cam channel vid. Any normal person just shakes their head and mutters wanker as they drive away 😅

[@aquanick2001]

Fair point…..it does make you wonder if they are in a courtesy car Becuase their own car is currently being repaired. 🤣

[@fredmercury1314]

Don't agree. If you don't call these antisocial muppets on their behaviour they'll just keep doing it. The guy should've been banned from driving for that stunt... but the cops won't care until he kills someone.

[@Matthew-bu7fg]

Skip to 10:56 for the best commentary of the entire video !! "Trainee BMW Drivers" hahahaha Epic video as always Ashley

[@ashley_neal]

😁

[@anorak-adenoids]

@@ashley_neal I think your joke went one step further: BMW produces those Minis, apple from the apple tree.. :)))

[@rscosworthfan]

@@anorak-adenoids thats why he said that

[@anorak-adenoids]

@@rscosworthfan He could've easily said that same thing about any other car, which'd run out of blinker fluid

[@rscosworthfan]

@@anorak-adenoids german cars are the worst for running out of blinker fluid

[@alanhindmarch7682]

Why do the self appointed road police not understand the concept of merge in turn, it’s simply, just do what it says on the tin.

[@iainreeve4522]

Alan - I think it's a rule that has changed over the years. When I first started driving I'm pretty sure that the rule was to merge early. This changed over the years to allow merge in turn when it's appropriate. So I think this one depends on when you took your test and what the rules were at the time. We're not always as good as we should be at keeping up with changes to the Highway Code.

[@matthewwinn979]

I've always thought of "merge early" as meaning "don't leave it until you're brushing cones" rather than "merge as soon as you know the lane will end". A few years ago I was on a motorway somewhere near Manchester in very slow traffic and almost everyone was merging left a full forty minutes before reaching the point where three lanes became two. The result was the queue was 50% longer than it needed to be and stretched all the way back to the previous junction and up the slip road, blocking all the surrounding roads as well. That's not merging early. That's leaving your brain at home.

[@ibs5080]

@@matthewwinn979 We need more motorists to think in the excellent and logical way you do

[@davidt3500]

If people could merge properly, one by one at the front the result would be two equally long queues in both lanes but that's not what's happening. People use the empty lane to go forward and squeeze in a gap somewhere. The result is one extremely slow lane and an empty one to jump the queue.

[@Gobtik]

@@iainreeve4522 What evidence do you have to support this claim? Your entire argument is based on your vague memory that something might have been said or you remember incorrectly. I can find examples on forums from 20 years ago of people experienced at merging in term, I do not believe it is in any way recent

[@Jimages_uk]

@11:05 I once came across someone who kept indicating the wrong way and asked them if they realised that they were doing so, and it turned out that they had learned to drive in a Datsun with the indicator on the right side, the driving instructor had told them that you push it up to turn left, and down to turn right. They had not realised that if the indicator was on the other side of the steering wheel, it worked the other way around.

[@PenguinTutor]

But surely it should have been clear which indicator light is showing on the dashboard. That sounds like a lack of awareness about the car they are driving.

[@mariusdufour9186]

I had a pretty nasty fall on a rental bicycle in the UK. Being an experienced cyclist on the continent, I'm used to the rear brake lever being in my right hand, and the front brake lever in my left. I did notice the switcheroo when I first started off, but then someone of the group I was riding with suddenly swerved in front of me, losing balance like they were about to fall, and I braked on instinct... Yep, I went over the top of the handle bars... Why can't we just settle on a single world-wide standard for these things?

[@iansumo1]

Thanks for sharing uploads Ashley, quite a few of the clips that people send in, highlight how drivers are unwilling to fix other people's mistakes. they just seem to try to make the point that it's their right of way. The majority of your cammers are excellent drivers. thanks for all your efforts Ash to try and educate road users.

[@hadtopicausername]

My driving instructor had worked as an HGV driver previously. He was excellent at making his students understand the HGV driver's point of view.

[@madcockney]

Most car and some small van drivers don't understand and they should really sit in the HGV driver's seat. Trucks have loads of blind spots. I have very few issues with trucks and all you have to do is make sure they can see you and if you overtake, and many will give you room to do that, is to pass and give plenty of room in front before you pull in again. This ensures that the driver can see you and that if you have to brake and the truck does the same then it has room to slow down before running into you.

[@joshuajay4075]

Clip 15. Great to see someone pulling over infront of the hazard instead of waiting behind and potentially putting themselves in danger.

[@mr.baconmontages8929]

Nice to see my clip made the cut, it was the first one. Hopefully these clips are a good learning point for at least a few people. I'd like to think this channel has prevented a few accidents

[@David-sw2fn]

Go AROUND every mini roundabout slowly. Watch other drivers like a hawk and be prepared to stop.

[@PedroConejo1939]

On a bike, always assume that the opposing vehicles will ignore you if you are turning right (or in fact going straight ahead or left) - it's happened to me multiple times and really, there's nothing you can do to stop them, only avoid them. Somehow, they think that they have priority over cyclists or perhaps fall into that category of ignoramuses who believe they have divine rights bestowed on them by virtue of being there first.

[@Jb-tl1yi]

@@PedroConejo1939 It's a white van so he does have a divine right. It explicitly says in the preface of the white van driver edition of the highway code....lol

[@PedroConejo1939]

@@Jb-tl1yi It's funny because it's true.

[@thegrowl2210]

The mini roundabout is the most deadly section of my cycle commute. I always go fully around them so I can meet drivers at a 90 degree angle.

[@DavidSmith-oy4of]

​@@PedroConejo1939 I hate it when I'm cycling and drivers don't bother to indicate at roundabouts. It's either a purpose move(what sad lives they must have to want to do that) or they're just morons.

[@gordon861]

Clip #13 - Well it's been a while since I watched that clip so many times, accident was in 2012, half expected the last bit of audio to be bleeped. Yes I was a little close to the Corsa (the camera is a 170 degree FoV rather than most car dashcams of 135 so that will mess with perception of distance/speeds). I was clear of the Corsa and in view of the van a full two seconds before he hit me. I did take the roundabout tighter than I should have and over run part of it. However, the van hit the rear swingarm of the bike inches behind my foot, if he'd hit my foot I would probably be a lot more injured than I was. My indicators were on, in a longer version of the clip they come into view and are flashing before I turn the camera off. The reason for the blanked details is the police asked me not to upload identifying features whilst there was a prosecution in progress, I wouldn't have bothered otherwise and never seen the point of now uploading the full clip as it's over. There was no question of fault from the police and they asked how I wanted it dealt with, I said I was happy with a driver awareness course rather than prosecution, he turned it down. I never got informed of the court date or asked to appear as a witness so I assume he pled guilty by post, the police told me he ended up with four points on his licence and a fine.

[@claytonhayward5815]

That roundabout off the M4 going into Hayes in Middlesex that John showed on his clip stuffed me last week. It's an absolute nightmare. I ended up in what I thought was the right lane, except it wasn't. Ended up having to go miles to turn around and have another go. Google lady was neither use nor ornament, had to work it out for myself.

[@johnbower7452]

That was decent of the car to stop with the footage of the lorry and the Volvo.

[@MrSapps]

wonder if it worked against the car driver since the sat in the blind spot - I guess they didn't want to hurry past because of the average speed check

[@Gobbbbb]

@@MrSapps This is unfortunately a huge issue, sometimes it is safer to speed up, whether it's over the limit or not.

[@HarrietBeaumont]

@@MrSapps I doubt it would have gone against the driver. At the end of the day, it is the responsibility of the driver to check their blind spots before changing lanes. If he wasn't sure it was clear, he shouldn't have gone.

[@aquanick2001]

@@MrSapps then don’t hurry past at all, don’t sit in the blind spot, when their is adequate gap to overtake the truck, then move forward and keep out of the danger zone……not difficult at all.

[@kevinmartin2516]

@@Gobbbbb Even if the worst came to the worst & you received a ticket, it's still less inconvenient than having an accident!

[@SamBebbington]

Biker clip: the biker should’ve gone around the roundabout. It would’ve given him more time to see the van moving and the van more chance of seeing him. Van still in the wrong

[@lvgio]

don’t think he indicated either! or atleast i couldn’t hear it

[@derekdelboytrotter8881]

@@lvgio as far as i know motorcycles don't make a ticking sound when you indicate, mine sure doesn't, some might though.

[@danielpotts1172]

Nope, far simpler lol. Biker is too up the cars arse. The main problem with Bikes is YOU can see a lot more, but more often than not that makes you more invisible to others. Just because he can see plenty, he was up the cars arse, not allowing the road users that matter, be able to see him lol. Drive as if you are invisible to other road users.

[@lvgio]

@@derekdelboytrotter8881 oh okay, well i’m not sure if the motorbike was indicating and so maybe the van thought the motorbike was going straight on, and so he pulled out

[@vincentleahy2965]

@@derekdelboytrotter8881 no point in ticking when you wear a crash helmit

[@sereveti]

I'm surprised so few people have said exactly what the problem with the bike on the mini roundabout clip was. In cutting the roundabout, the bike was behind the pillar of the van's windshield the entire time. The van driver simply couldn't see him.

[@madcockney]

The real problem was not that the bike was in the wrong, though he followed the car in cutting the mini roundabout, but that the bike was too close to the vehicle in front. With a greater distance the bike would probably have been seen and it would also more likely that the rider could have avoided the van. It also looked as though the bike just followed the van with no thought. I got the feeling that the van concentrated on the car and completely forgot to check for other vehicles, though pillars do play a big part in what can be seen. That's why you should move around inside to give you greater visibility whether it relates to mirrors or obstructing pillars.

[@jameshowle5706]

Was taught to do the 3 point turn on the road in Clip #10 in Lichfield. Can't have been down it in 15 years but recognised it straight away.

[@Stefan-cc3np]

To answer your questions about 2 sat navs - you can get van/lorry specific sat navs which can be programmed with weight, height, width, etc. These are great for what they’re designed for, but google maps is unbelievably good at getting you to the exact company address. This is a possible reason for 2 sat nav voices.

[@grahvis]

I was half expecting them to start arguing with each other.

[@rainbowevil]

@@grahvis “The red zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the white zone.” “No, the white zone is for loading of passengers and there is no stopping in a RED zone.”

[@JoshHarrisPOV]

For the motorcyclist clip @7:33 There's a few points that came to mind; 1) The van driver isn't visible from the riders point of view, the van driver is blocked by the A pillar, if you cant see the driver, theres a very good chance they cant see you. (The riders positioning on the mini roundabout is questionable here aswell, take a wider route around the roundabout don't cut across the middle of it, it gives the other drivers more time to see you, and it might have meant that the rider might not have been blocked by the A pillar) 2) Add the fact the van driver most likely cant see the rider and because of how close the rider is following the corsa (he's at most 2-3 meters behind the car) this means the van driver is gunna start going when he thinks he will clear the corsa. This is where fault is also on the van driver of course, because at any junction where the A pillar is blocking your view (almost all junctions), you need to move your head around and past it so you have a full view of the road. 3) The rider almost seems to just not react to it, he moves his head towards the van, which makes me believe he knew the van driver was coming towards him, but as soon as he starts moving, you need to react in someway, sound the horn to alert them of your presence, accelerate/brake to take urself out of the danger zone (whichever fits the situation best) do something, don't just watch as the van drives into you. As a rider you have to ride like you're invisible and assume everyone hasn't seen you if you want to remain safe, I was watching that van for movement the first time I saw the clip and the moment I saw that van roll forward I thought in my head "horn and brakes" and he did neither, there's lessons for both the road users here and I would say they are equally at fault for this accident happening. No road user is perfect we all make mistakes/make decisions that aren't the best, but the main thing is learn from these actions to avoid them happening in the future.

[@Gorf1234]

Joshua why don't more riders realise this? Yes, he had right of way, but the law isn't great at mending broken bones or reversing death. As Viper said in Top Gun- "better to retire and save your aircraft than push a bad position"

[@madcockney]

@@Gorf1234 It goes both ways. Many riders do but there are still many that don't. The same applies to car and van drivers. A greater percentage of riders take post test training, (advanced), and are examined, with many re-examined every three years to keep their certification, compared with car and white van size vehicles. Truck drivers are re-examine every two years from memory.

[@gallaghergibson8024]

Totally agree with the analysis. The rider's technically got right of way, but if they ride like that on a consistent basis, this is a sadly predictable outcome. I ride differently after a somewhat similar incident...it was totally the car driver's fault, but I am now determined not to even allow such opportunities for endangerment. Assume hazards will develop.

[@steve00alt70]

He also target fixated too. You would see it in your peripherals

[@timsbird1971]

"Queues Likely" does work as on that road multiple queues are likely - more than one a day or on more than one day. If it said "Queue Likely" then that could mean that at some time a queue could happen but it may happen only once. Singular is far more ambiguous than the options allowed by the plural... :)

[@dylandajhharwood5566]

I think "Queueing likely" would be a better way of displaying it, however it might not be very legible at ~50+ miles per hour, shorter, more common words are easier to read. Less time reading is more time looking at the road.

[@johnb8956]

What they should really write is: “I’m bored at work today as nothing is really happening on the roads so I’m going to distract road users with an utterly pointless sign”.

[@Gobtik]

@@johnb8956 Not really pointless if it makes people aware they could have to slow down ahead due to stopped traffic and potentially slows them down avoiding an accident

[@keith6400]

1:49 The surprising thing about some road signs is that they have a plate below them. Often this will say something like "Except Buses" which would explain the context of the sign. "Queues Likely" seems to be tautological as that is exactly what the sign means whereas, to me if a plate were necessary it would say something like "At peak hours," "Use Both Lanes" or something additional more appropriate to the situation.

[@davidk3729]

Police vehicles may be driven by ancillary workers, not trained to advanced driving standards. Maybe garage staff, even PCSO's and Specials nowadays. Diabolical, but that's the way it is. Many thanks Ashley, my seventeen year old grandson just passed his test In some way due to studying your excellent advice and videos. I'm an ancient Class one Advanced and supervised him plus his driving instructor lessons. My adage was, 'keep your distance, frequent use of mirrors and shoulder checks, lane discipline, be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear and do not accelerate into a closing gap'. If in doubt slow down or stop and if a collision is inevitable make sure you are stopped when they hit you. As he became more confident I saw the start of those bad habits people drift into once they pass their test. Left hand dropping to bottom of the wheel. No doubt the elbow on window ledge and hand resting on gear lever will follow.

[@goldilocks913]

Totally agree re anti cycle aggression needing to stop, and l learnt my long established habit of stopping people going past the queue in another lane was wrong. I think it’s the lack of expectation that people will merge in turn, otherwise there’s no problem is there? Thanks 😊

[@johnny2hats330]

Lmao slowly turning to drive over the orange

[@Will-it6ds]

lol 😂 definitely know what Ashley’s on about in clip 13, great video 😁👍

[@Weasel65]

That orange rolling into frame that they threw did give me a good chuckle.

[@JosvanderLelie]

I think the motorcyclist in clip 13 could have kept more distance from the car in front, he was actually tailgating, and he also could have made a wider turn around that mini roundabout instead of going over the middle of it, in which case his speed would have been lower and he would have been more visible for the oncoming traffic. And most of all, be more aware of being the more vulnarable in traffic. Great upload again Ashley!

[@LUKE-ff3cc]

I live literally 2 minutes away from road in the second clip and drive on that road often, it's very common for a car to pull out on you at the junction, I've seen it multiple times and will see it again

[@zaink7037]

Love this series. Keep it coming Ashley as i find it really educational from driving errors 👍

[@werewolf195]

I agree with the comments that say that we will all make a mistake at some time. Better to smile inwardly and continue on your way feeling better, because you did it right This Time. 50 years of driving but I am still looking to improve.

[@eggegg2873]

Guessing with the biker clip to stay a bit further back from the blue corsa? Still the van driver shouldn't have gone

[@steve6173]

Also how he went round the roundabout. He cut across the island

[@gordon861]

@@steve6173 Yes I should have been further back, but if I had and the van had gone he would have hit my foot rather than the rear of the bike.

[@steve6173]

@@gordon861 true however you possibly could have had more time to react and possibly spot the van entering

[@MrMeecles]

@@gordon861 I think using the full space of roundabout would've helped more than following space. I think your spacing was decent for how fast you were going At 7:33 looks like your wheels just on the centre circle If you were closer to the arrows on the roundabout you've got some more breathing space to deal with aloof drivers

[@coolkid3728]

I was gobsmacked with 10:25 too, didn't know you get earthquakes like that in the UK!

[@jimmehjiimmeehh9748]

Why he has 2 satnavs is probably because he's driving a goods vehicle of some kind. The goods vehicle satnavs identify weight and size limits and prevent you going down them, but they aren't always the best route finders, so you also use a car satnav to double check the routes the truck satnav is giving you.

[@VladsBrickCastle]

A hypothetical scenario explaining the police van's behaviour: while waiting to turn left, they receive new directions (i.e. needed elsewhere), meaning they now need to turn right. While still technically wrong, it's at least understandable. This is why I try not to get mad when someone decides to change direction on a traffic light, for example. If you're sitting in your lane, and then suddenly indicate (while lights are still red, and you don't try to barge in), chances are I'd let you in front of me once they're green, especially if you're a taxi driver or other service type vehicle...

[@gallaghergibson8024]

Actually, very fair point.

[@kraygarde.7325]

1:09 even though its abysmal, this made me laugh so hard, accompanied by the "a f**king orange"

[@MegaMicheal2]

Clip #16 is near me, I often use that roundabout, both for work and otherwise. It's rather awful, one that needs traffic lights but, as far as I'm aware, has no plans to get any. People (myself included) use that right lane often as the queues, especially from 2:45pm until about 5pm, back up onto the roundabout.

[@jerviservi]

2:00 I had someone doing the "motorway police" taking up both lanes the other day when a lane was closed ahead. Funny thing is, it was a police car! I just squeezed pass them and continued , they didn't do anything, passed them just before the 200 yards sign.

[@PedroConejo1939]

I see this all the time. It sums up the way some people are in life: I've made a poor choice and now you have to suffer the consequences.

[@Max-lf3tx]

6:40 think you might be abit harsh on the driver there. I'm not convinced there was enough space to break by the time the drive noticed he was going to pull out.

[@Gobtik]

He had time enough to slow or even move over just in case, fortunately his car didn't break, but he could have still braked

[@Max-lf3tx]

@@Gobtik remember the camera distortion. Remember you're watching the clip with the knowledge that something bad is going to happen, so you're hyper aware. Add a decent amount of reaction time. The car also pulled out very slow, I think if he had breaked when he noticed (when he turned) I think he would have plowed into the back of that car.

[@aquanick2001]

@@Max-lf3tx …….let’s get this straight. Cars have BRAKES Builders have Tea BREAKS Here endeth the lesson 👍🏻

[@outwood1]

Clip 6 A classic case of not travelling according to the conditions whether it was aquaplaning or wind. Were the tyres correctly inflated or above the minimum tread depth? My car has never behaved like that even when I drove very cautiously over the M2 motorway River Medway viaduct at the height of the 1987 Great Storm when cross winds were gusting to over 100mph!

[@RonSeymour1]

I suspect that the two satnavs were due to the driver leaving the car satnav on and also using his phone map directions. I find that the phone is more detailed and better able to find a small area than the car one. It was stupid to use both though unless you turn the volume down on one.

[@BruceDuncan]

Clip 18 is a classic. It's in Edinburgh and the road surface is horrific, as is typical. The left turn actually leads to a slip road to a 40mph dual carriageway, so the temptation for drivers to put their foot down is strong. It's an accident waiting to happen...

[@isctony]

4:00 - heavy braking over the apex of the bridge, loss of traction on the front due to weight transfer (very little weight over that from axle at that speed as the suspension drops over the apex), i'm fairly certain that was a code brown for the car coming over the bridge

[@hdoingherbestt]

9:45 I might be wrong. But the police van seems to be coming out of a one way street in the correct direction? The no entry sign is facing traffic of the main road, so no turning in from the main road? I might just be seeing something wrong. Interested in what others think.

[@daily501]

The junction on clip 8 I accidentally found many years ago when I was teen, I had no idea where to go or what to do. It still haunts me to this day and I've never come across it since. Can you actually join the m4 by turning right or do you have to go straight over the junction and then merge from the correct side of the road?

[@seraphina985]

Shockingly yes it looks like you can the inner lane on that roundabout is marked with a right turn arrow and the text "M4 ONLY" looking at the imagery on google. No clue what the hell the designers thought they were doing there though that design is just straight up insane.

[@SODtv]

Regarding the clip with the cyclist with the panniers, I would have done the same. The reason for that is that by filtering up the inside by a car length, they are protected from being struck from behind either during the red light, or during the moving off when it turns to green. There are a lot of distractions happening at the junction for motorists to take their eye off what's in front of them.

[@slyfoxyandalifesaver]

Clip #8 My team were given a back up satnav in case the first one failed. If the first Satnav fails, then the passenger would tend to just use google maps on their phone because setting up a satnav can take a bit of time. If I was driving and that happened to me, I would pulled over and ripped out both satnavs and resorted to an A to Z map! Thank you for the chuckle, was very ...ummm... coordinated! Clip 13: I'm thinking slow down more at the junction if not stopping and taking a wider turn at the roundabout. I'd say that bike was borderline tailgating.

[@slyfoxyandalifesaver]

I didn't want to comment on Clip #2. I cringing throughout, It was just sooo petty and pathetic how everyone acted. Just stop and wait for them to pass patiently. Having the other driver correct their course and wasting everyone's time is shame enough to make them realise what they did was a silly. Calling them out doesn't make anyone better driver. Also... what a waste of a perfectly good orange!

[@chrisburn7178]

10:50 is indeed shockingly bad. I think it's just general lack of awareness - how they managed to drive past a cyclist and then try seconds later try to turn in front of them is insane. You're right Ashley that people need to start expecting and planning for cyclists to be present before they execute a manoeuvre.

[@outwood1]

Clip 5. This is the B2112 between Lodge Lane, Hassocks and the A273 Clayton Hill in West Sussex. I know this road and it is quite narrow, but dead straight but certainly not level. Several vehicles in the past have become to grief in attempting to overtake on this road either colliding with the vehicle they are overtaking or ending up in the roadside ditch. In addition there have been several head-on collisions on this road with the inevitable fatal results. Therefore ant overtake on this piece of road is going to be very risky and I personally never overtake on this section of road unless the vehicle was travelling very slowly and I am certain I can get past quickly.

[@markwright3161]

Clip 8 is brilliant. 'use the second from the left lane to turn slightly right' with the other one seeming to completely contradict that wanting to immediately turn right by the sound of it. :) Edit; 4:43

[@owl1851]

I knew it'd happen one day but I recognise that roundabout in the first clip! Thats my hometown, and yeah. Theres no side entrances anywhere along that road and theres another roundabout not even a few minutes further back up that road. Absolutely no idea how that driver managed that

[@Near2Future]

4:01 My guess, it was the cammers headlight that threw off the driver. might have blinded him & thought someone was coming towards him in his lane. Which is understandable due to how the timing was when the cammer was turning just as he was coming over the hill. It's a weird scenario & maybe the driver the came over the bridge hasn't done much nighttime driving.

[@tom-jj5em]

I have struggled a couple of times on the first roundabout. I think its poorly designed as im often unsure of when im supposed to move out (as the car going around from the left was unsure where they have to leave in the first clip) i think I usually have to turn right on it and so have looped it a couple of times when ive missed moving out where that crash happened

[@776281]

The two GPS systems. One the obligatory work one; probably a US product that forever has you turning right onto major road, wants U turns at traffic lights, gets you to non existent back doors, either has you arriving at your destination several turns before you do or no arriving for several minutes parked out the front, makes no allowance for traffic conditions and loves the long way around. The other is the one he is actually using. Oh and I forgot the: keep left, keep left, turn right and deciding because you are stopped at the traffic lights on the left side of a major carriage way you must be facing the opposite direction. If you think I have a major hate on the work GPS, you'd be 100% right.

[@rjds1800]

Brilliant clips, as for the Biker on the mini roundabout, it's a tricky one. Yes the biker was too close following the car in front. The Van driver was probably targeted fixated on the blue car and didn't see the bike following. Either way it's a case for the biker of speed up or slow down. As he had little in the way of escape route options, I'd have slowed down to see if the van would begin to emerge and hopefully stop. Failing that the next vehicle would see the situation an stop to allow the bike to clear the roundabout. All that is said with the benefit of hindsight, just seeing the clip once it was a catch 22 situation. You could argue that it was avoidable but that easy to say when you're not involved.

[@THERUBBISHPCKID]

regarding the cyclist, yes we do feel like that some days but that's besides the point lol If you are going to filter, filter as far as you can foward and personally I would have said they could have gone all the way. The point of filtering is to keep you safe. If you do not filter keep some distance between you and the car in front to improve your chances should someone go into the back of you. I personally like to leave a at least half a car length not only for safety but just to make sure they can see me in the mirror as well as put some space between me and their exhaust fumes. Remember, especially when dealing with bigger vehicles like vans. If you can't see their mirrors, they can't see you, maybe pull into the drivers mirror if needed to. Make Yourself Seen. When coming past cars trying to pull out, make eye contact to make sure they have seen you. Just a few things I have found extremely useful in keeping myself protect

[@mikecollins8936]

1:35 100% agree. I am no more trained than anyone else yet I don't seem to have these problems. If another road user pulls out in front of you or cuts in to your lane just back off and go about your business.

[@doncodman913]

Hi Ashley, I am a bit lost about the police van ... Why couldnt he turn right ? There is broken hashed area in the centre of the road .Is there a No right turn sign ?? I believe if the hatched area was solid lines it is the same as an island and you would not cross it as there would be supplemtary signage saying turn left only . This is the 1 st query ive had after watching a lot of your videos. Hope you can help me understand what i may be missing . I dont see what difference emerging from a one way street makes either . Regards Don Codman.

[@TimmyTonk]

I did not know it was illegal to turn right from a one way street. You learn something new everyday

[@gordon861]

I think Ashley was referring to the point that he was turning right from the left hand lane rather than just the fact he was turning right.

[@aquanick2001]

10:56 - Trainee BMW driver, I laughed so hard at this comment, and it’s funny because it’s true 🤣

[@Wolfie2467890]

Thought I recognised this road at 10:30 definitely knew that I knew it, once I saw that left turn

[@RidgwayBrandon]

5:55 I would have waited behind the silver car; regardless of whether I had panniers on. Why make the car overtake me (potentially for the second time) all to save one car length in the race to the red light!

[@thecuttingsark5094]

I totally agree mate. As cyclists we expect drivers to treat us on an equal level and not have the MGIF mentality. We should return the favour when appropriate.

[@nicjansen230]

Clip 7 looks like a late reaction where he thought there was more room on the wrong side of the road for him

[@Gobbbbb]

John did a great job not to stand on the brakes when he aquaplaned in the first clip, great bit of driving.

[@wirdy1]

Ashley was wrong. It wasn't aquaplaning at all.

[@Jonc25]

@@wirdy1 Yep, wind ruined me trousers. 😀

[@Gobbbbb]

@@wirdy1 Rewatching the clip, you're right. I need to stop taking everybody's word for everything lol.

[@ronniebrown6225]

The motorbike clip 13. 1) tailgating. 2) it may be a mini-roundabout but he cut right across it 3) a bit slower would have been safer. A right-hand indicator would also have been helpful.

[@busspotteraroundmerseyside573]

With the police van it looked like the road had a give way sign on the group

[@sectokia1909]

Not sure about UK, but in most counteries its illegal to have a blind spot. Why so many truck drivers don't get $50 mirrors.

[@deeznoots6241]

Clip 2 where did that orange come from?

[@niallkinsella2687]

Clip 18, Edinburgh Dundee street with the turn off to the western approach road. Bloody thing is a nightmare for cyclists and pedestrians. I estimate less than half of drivers bother indicating to turn off Dundee street there. And they often do that at 30 or 40 mph, despite Dundee street being a 20 zone. 🤦

[@richardnicholson3912]

I had an aggressive reaction only the other day because I used my brain and used the full length of the open lane before merging rather than sitting in a long queue. Like you say if they didn’t want you to use the lane it wouldn’t be marked up like that or would be coned off. Don’t like it boo boo go and pull over and have a cry about it. And while your at it read your Highway Code. If the lane is open sorry but I’m using it.

[@wirdy1]

I'm with you 100%.

[@HarrietBeaumont]

I use it too. I can't get my head round why people all pile into one lane rather than dividing equally. It would save everyone time.

[@ibs5080]

Im also with you 100%

[@gallaghergibson8024]

@@HarrietBeaumont it's because queuing is both the established religion and the national sport of the english nation. to use the open lane is more rational, but if you perceive it to be a queue (which is obviously is not), everyone who fails to wait their turn, in line, is a social pariah to be outcast for all time.

[@Rockhopper1]

the one with the angry orange, if you turn the attitude down, let them make the turn, and gentle wave and there would be no problem, they knew they made a mistake give them time to admit it. It was not a huge hazard area either. That aquaplaning one was wind it seems, had it happen to me a few times whilst driving a hgv, its not fun, plus the inside lane has grooves from other hgv traffic once pushed out of that it makes the wobble even worse. Hope the driver had a cup of tea soon after thats my go to cure.

[@ollieb9875]

I love the fact a random satsuma or orange gets thrown at 1:13 ish.. I mean.. that's weird! 😁

[@supergeekjay]

It's a juicy clip for sure! Freshly squeezed orange with those eggs? 😂

[@ollieb9875]

@@supergeekjay People are strange. 🙃👍

[@mattsmith9222]

With the biker down clip, the biker was too close to the car in front so his attention was more on the car not what was going on around him. As a biker you should always be looking for the wheels moving on vehicles merging from junctions. Cutting the mini roundabout will give you zero grip if you have to hit the brakes, so even if he had seen the van he would have been down.

[@snowleopard9749]

Those of us from non-UK countries are thinking "WTF is a mini roundabout"? They seem to create conflict, rather than resolve it, and hence is a case of poor traffic-engineering!

[@mdeerocks6792]

@@snowleopard9749 Yes, that's exactly what they are. Also, google spiral roundabouts, for more UK brilliant traffic engineering ideas. Having a roundabout every 100 meters is UK style, they love it here. In theory, they are supposed to help, in practice, with modern traffic levels and many people not knowing how to drive them (even simple ones), they are one big clusterf.

[@gallaghergibson8024]

Great point about the white paint on the roundabout providing so little traction. Another reason to actually take them as they're intended. The obligation to turn around a small circle slows you down for very good and obvious reasons.

[@gallaghergibson8024]

@@snowleopard9749 when the alternative is a crossroad junction, either with lights or without, a roundabout is probably the least worst option in a lot of scenarios. eg there's one roundabout in belfast, where tate's avenue meets the boucher road, where if there wasn't a roundabout, the rate of and volume of traffic able to pass through would be decreased significantly. like a lot of traffic guidance, the problem isn't ignorance. anyone passing a test to drive on uk roads has to show they know how they work and can handle them competently. the problem is actually with people disregarding the rules.

[@snowleopard9749]

@@gallaghergibson8024 Can you cite any studies/data that compare the safety record and driver behaviour at "mini roundabouts" compared to regular intersections? The rest of the world seems to do just fine without them.

[@tazdevil875]

I think the penultimate clip of the mini, the driver may have been used to an indicator stalk being on a different side and moved it to the position that they would be used to, thinking was correct.

[@igetsalty]

Clip #18 is in edinburgh... Those new cycle lanes the edinburgh clown-cil put in place have become a serious hazard... Drivers assume cyclists are going to use them and when they don't it always causes problems. It's also a problem that a lot of the time when the road narrows, that the cycle lanes extend further into the road essentialy causing.a chokepoint.

[@apocalypso1564]

No surprises with clip 15, the most awful stretch of the M1. Even passed a multi-car accident on the southbound of J13 yesterday.

[@snowleopard9749]

Blind spots on heavy vehicles (or lorries as you Brits call them) are a design flaw that does not need to exist given modern technological solutions.

[@Asdayasman]

So we should commit suicide by lorry instead of accept that reality isn't perfect?

[@snowleopard9749]

@@Asdayasman What are you talking about? I'm saying we need to phase in mandatory technology that eliminates the blind spots and prevents lorries from driving into vehicles in their blind spot.

[@CptnKremmen]

Yes, maybe he should have followed the outline of the roundabout, but looking at at the other traffic this would seem to be the adopted route across the mini roundabout even though it is good practice not to drive over or the wrong way round them. Looks like following good practice is good practice.

[@piciu256]

He threw an Orange 🤣🤣🤣

[@RyanTaylor1997]

The biker was too close, cut the roundabout and assumed the van could see him, never assume 😂

[@lickmybaws]

Clip #18 is Edinburgh and they always do this, I’ve been on this road many times.

[@RobertInder]

Yup! I’ve also ridden there “many” times (though not with the “spaces for people” Lane there’s) and I’m not surprised when a car cuts across (though maybe not quite as badly as in this clip) In that particular incident, I suspect that the second driver was so close to the first one that they knew they couldn’t take their eyes off it for a moment…

[@TheJackKWhitehouse]

Hi Ash. Did I miss something with the police van? Why couldn't it turn right there? Thanks

[@kevinmartin2516]

He can turn right there, but it wasn't attempting to do so from the right lane.

[@slushy2378]

Ashley could you do a vid on break checking people, the law around it and who has to pay out on insurance and all.

[@Asdayasman]

When you spell it correctly, sure.

[@slushy2378]

@@Asdayasman it 🖕

[@patrickdonaldson6221]

I'd say in the first clip, it was probably a foreign lorry which turned onto the wrong side of the road for the country they were in out of not paying attention. I've made the same mistake on Euro Truck Simulator 2.

[@mimikm222]

As a biker I would never put myself in that position on mini roundabout. Distance to the corsa was more than inappropriate, than roundabout cut in half. I learned my lesson, with sore shoulder:)

[@paulegan27]

Clip no15 lorry blind spot can someone explain why all lorry’s have not got to retro fit blind spot cameras possibly costing £200-300 a small screen in the cab surely would not be a distraction, or perhaps some form of sound indicator of a car in that blind dpot

[@Motorheadsup]

Biker was tailgating and that made him almost invisible to the van driver. Looking at the position of both vehicles biker might’ve been hidden by the windscreen pilar.I’ve had a few near misses in similar scenarios when I started riding and learned my lesson. Be sure you’re seen!

[@highpath4776]

Skoda's can go underpowered, depends whats in the back seat load, foot down and null response .

[@fredmercury1314]

If you look closely at about 8:58 the lorry clearly has a blindspot mirror above the door. The lorry should've seen the car. That's a wide angle mirror that shows the road exactly where that car was.

[@GilesWendes]

2:36 Right next to my old house! See some amazing driving there!

[@madcyclist58]

5:50 yes, I would always wait behind the car.

[@kai_johnsonn]

I didn't understand 3:30 - could someone please explain what Ashley was on about?

[@tomhodgson3502]

With that biker clip, that area is a 3 min drive from mine. The direction the van was coming from is often waiting for ages at a time so you often see drivers getting impatient and taking chances they shouldn't. Knowing this, I personally pay a bit extra attention to cars from that way and if it looks like they are pulling out, slow down/stop even if I have right of way

[@gordon861]

I'm about the same distance. Yes too close to the Corsa, generally on that junction being close allows you to use the car as protection because generally people don't try to cut very close to cars turning right there. This time I was unlucky, but also lucky, the van hit the swing arm just behind my foot and delay he either would have hit my foot or seen me and not gone.

[@tomhodgson3502]

@@gordon861 thats a pretty good point about using the car as protection, still very risky though but obviously having never riden a motorbike I cant personally see situations how a motorcyclist would

[@torresalex]

I do enjoy your BMW quips 🤣

[@rjds1800]

Well the level driver ability I see on the roads now (compared to the recent lockdown) is staggeringly bad, funnily enough from BMW drivers amongst others...

[@sacgaming5912]

Your voice is so soothing

[@RicardoPetrazzi]

Nice one Ash....always call out poor driving by the police and nice book-name-drop. I still have my copy from 1995, I wonder if it's changed much?

[@skylarius3757]

The motorbike was travelling too close to the blue car so the van didn't see him

[@lvgio]

don’t think he had his indicators on either, and didn’t go fully around the the roundabot

[@gordon861]

@@lvgio Indicators were on, I was a little close to the blue car, on the plus side if I'd been a little further back and the car had hit me I would still be limping because he missed my left leg by inches.

[@jean-paulroberts9521]

@@gordon861 You *know* that they don't see us. If you're close behind another vehicle, they don't even bother looking, they just focus on the cage and see a gap behind it. The van was in the wrong, but we can't afford to ride with thinking like that - it hurts us much more than it hurts them. Matt sums it up well, in his comment. When I'm riding, I don't want to be right, I want to be intact.

[@josephmarsh8235]

You know what I think happened to the motorcyclist in clip 13 Ashley, he was in the blind spot of the van near the pillar of the van at the side near the mirrors and the van maybe wrongly assumed it was clear. But still, the van was in the wrong, he should've been slower. Also that lorry accident on motorway was shocking.

[@lvgio]

3:50 what is a aqua plaining? or whatever happened

[@Jonc25]

Ashley misunderstood clip 6, it was 70mph gusts of wind that pushed the van into the hard shoulder. Aquaplaning is when there is lots of water on the road and the tyres can't move it fast enough and the tyres loose contact with the ground.👍

[@seankulzick1578]

I made a stupid driving mistake yesterday. It could easily feature in one of your compilations. It wasn't dangerous but definitely inconvenienced some other drivers. I'm very disappointed in myself - I should know better.

[@jillp1840]

But that's the thing - We ALL (Ashley excepted, possibly ;-) ) make mistakes, no matter how much we would prefer not to. So I don't understand why people get SO irate at others' mistakes, because what's the betting they themselves will have got it wrong at some point?

[@dgphi]

The important thing is to figure out what you did wrong and how you can avoid the same problem in the future. Getting upset at yourself doesn't really make much sense.