Ashley's Analysis | 10 Crashes

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Ashley Neal

Ashley Neal

Күн бұрын

We should all do what we can to avoid any collision, but we can learn a lot from seeing how all the road users got themselves into danger.
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@DT-hg7te
@DT-hg7te Жыл бұрын
The new highway code law is being blamed again for the actions in No.5. I would like to ask those who think the law is at fault what would have happened if: A: The car had stopped for traffic. B: The car had a mechanical failure. C: A child ran out in front of the car. D: A tree blew over in front of the car, or some other debris made its way into the road. E: The driver stalled. F: The driver slowed for a speed hump. ...because all of the above scenarios would have lead to the same outcome. The driver of the yellow car did not make adequate observations and was following too closely. Simple.
@rsmith8875
@rsmith8875 Жыл бұрын
The yellow car failed to watch what the car in front of him was doing...
@jakescustoms
@jakescustoms Жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself! So many different factors that could cause it, yet the new rules are to blame!
@iainamurray
@iainamurray Жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's not as if the red car emergency braked either. Entered the junction at a reasonable speed then slowed to a stop. 100% the fault of the numpty in the yellow car! Just didn't look.
@SlimTortoise
@SlimTortoise Жыл бұрын
As most pedestrians don't tend to read the highway code and mostly look out for traffic, I would have just carried on and not stopped.
@DjDayOne
@DjDayOne Жыл бұрын
It's worse, they weren't even following closely, they just weren't looking where they were going at all.
@malcolmrowe1794
@malcolmrowe1794 Жыл бұрын
I remember my instructor in 1974 telling me that most accidents occur not only because the "guilty" party does something wrong but also because the "innocent" driver fails to do something to avoid being caught out. In the last 48 years I have seen plenty of evidence that he was right. When I passed my test he congratulated me and told me not to forget that now I was just starting to learn.
@PedroConejo1939
@PedroConejo1939 Жыл бұрын
In aviation they have the Swiss Cheese analogy - that is that there can a fault in one instance, but only when two or more contributing contributing factors have holes that align with the first do you get the accident, like lining up the holes in Swiss cheese. Sometimes it's timing, sometimes it's weather, sometimes it's human factors, sometimes it's design but combine them all at the same time and bang.
@help3102
@help3102 Жыл бұрын
True in most cases. So many videos where the Cammer just sees someone that's about to hit them and they don't move at all. Although sometimes the Cammer couldn't do anything to avoid crashing
@katierscott8771
@katierscott8771 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, I recently had a minor RTC on my Motorbike. I was filtering past stationary traffic, was too slow to react to a car that pulled out without looking and as a result I brushed the side of the vehicle and fell off. Entirely the fault of the car pulling out, they probably weren't even looking in my direction.. and that is the mistake I made, I didn't anticipate properly and had I done so I would have avoided the bump. Only EGO's damaged so no problem but a lesson learnt to both of us.
@stoney2424
@stoney2424 Жыл бұрын
@@PedroConejo1939 using that analogy, its probably not a good idea then to move pedestrian crossings to road junctions where there is already large number of potential variables to line up with? 🤔
@PedroConejo1939
@PedroConejo1939 Жыл бұрын
@@stoney2424 Possibly, but likewise, if you make pedestrians walk an extra 200 yards every time they wish to cross a side road, you're giving them the message that they are 2nd class (as they are in the US), and they'll still cross at the junctions anyway. There are other ways to overcome risks but these tend to rely on people being up to the task of driving a motor vehicle to current standards.
@andrewmcnamara3959
@andrewmcnamara3959 Жыл бұрын
Because of this video, I just checked over my shoulder when getting up off the sofa to make sure nothing was coming
@americanrambler4972
@americanrambler4972 Жыл бұрын
Crash #4. One of the defensive driving tactics I was taught in driving school when I was learning to drive, was to watch the front wheels of cars around you, as any movement or change of direction will be telegraphed or signaled by any movement or change of position of the position of those wheels in relation to the vehicle body. Watching for turn signals or drivers head movements does not always show their intent, but watching the front wheels can give a noticeable amount of warning. That little technique has saved my bacon many a time over the years because it gave me just enough advanced warning to properly execute defensive driving maneuvers to safely avoid contact.
@DB7PHiL
@DB7PHiL Жыл бұрын
And also, it's a Mercedes and I know those drivers the don't like to use Indicators!.....you may laugh, but I've been driving for 40+ (incident free) years, and have come to treat all Mercedes drivers with a great deal of caution.
@rondameier8168
@rondameier8168 Жыл бұрын
It's what I refer to as the body language of drivers.... But it's exactly what you described... Watching the path of the front wheels is always a tell tell sign as to what is to come....
@christaylor1575
@christaylor1575 Жыл бұрын
We can't see the stop line but given that flatbeds angle of attack - sorry turn :) - I can't help think that being right on that line would have been a very very close shave.
@craigs71
@craigs71 Жыл бұрын
The driver assumed the van driver was going straight on, I learned long ago that assumption and driving are the worst combination.
@imSatnav
@imSatnav Жыл бұрын
I am a PCV driver, and the first question my partner asks when I get in is, "So, how many people tried to kill you today?" We usually have to avoid at least 8 to 10 incidents like this every day. As a motorbike rider too, crash 6 intrigues me. Clearly the car has decided to change his mind at the last minute without proper observation. However, as a bus driver and bike rider I have learnt never to fully trust any signal given by another driver. I certainly would not have undertaken that car, and would have waited behind. As my advanced instructor used to say, "Don't get involved in other people's accidents."
@wl660
@wl660 Жыл бұрын
Agree. Biker here too…and the Rider behind should have observed the car couldn’t turn right and all bets are off. By positioning themselves for the undertake - they moved left, and then was not able to see the right indication being cancelled. They were riding too close too.
@joshstephen1995
@joshstephen1995 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate, PCV Driver here too, daily occurrence having mopeds undertake me. It's ridiculous.
@imSatnav
@imSatnav Жыл бұрын
@@wl660 people seem to be in too much of a hurry all the time.
@imSatnav
@imSatnav Жыл бұрын
@@joshstephen1995 if that was all we had to put up with eh? 😉
@RichO1701e
@RichO1701e Жыл бұрын
@@imSatnav Moped's are being used for takeaway deliveries, usually by people who've done the CBT & theory, and that's it.
@JeffJefferyUK
@JeffJefferyUK Жыл бұрын
3:55 A contributory factor to this accident seems to be that the truck driver took a 'shallow' approach to the turn - like a racing car driver straightening out the bend - instead of turning much closer to 90°
@WingNuts2010
@WingNuts2010 Жыл бұрын
#3 is one that as a former motorcycle user, I was always watching out for. It is not eye contact of the driver that is important but if the wheels are turning. I had several near misses (one brushed my left leg) on my bike, but oddly the only impacts or very close stops have occurred in my car. Each time I could see that the lady drivers (I am sure men are just as bad) watched the car in front of me go past and then pulled out. A classic case of the 'well that car has gone past, it must be clear', syndrome. One lady even argued that she could pull onto the roundabout and therefore all users need to give way to vehicles that are on the roundabout. I pointed out that I was the third of four cars coming from her right and that we were all travelling at the same speed, about 25 mph and there was absolutely no chance of her moving safely onto the roundabout without someone from the right having to carry out an emergency stop. Which I had to do. Luckily, the vehicle behind was turning left so was slowing down.
@jayc342009
@jayc342009 Жыл бұрын
most accidents and near misses for me on my motorcycle has been with women pulling out on me or cutting me off, not to be sexist but i do think men are generally more aggressive and reckless and women lack some awareness
@Destide
@Destide Жыл бұрын
Didn't see the BMW on the first watch, but def seems to be part of the must get ahead crowd that use any lane as long as they can go the fastest.
@rsmith8875
@rsmith8875 Жыл бұрын
I thought he had been going too quickly to stop in the lane he was in & since the left lane was clear he moved into it to prevent him crashing.
@GMBasix
@GMBasix Жыл бұрын
The BMW driver changed lanes and slowed ahead of moving out again. Poor planning. But the van driver was too fast to adapt to changing conditions approaching lights. My take is this is a rear-end shunt that the van driver should have been in a position to avoid, no matter what. Advice to the BMW driver: get your act together, slow down and plan your approach. Advice to the van driver: here's the bill in full.
@williamgeorgefraser
@williamgeorgefraser Жыл бұрын
The BMW explains why there are so many traffic jams on motorways. There are too many drivers who just have to overtake one more car and find themselves in the wrong lane when they get to the junction. I've been driving for 53 years and had 3 accidents, of which in 2 cases I was stopped and the other driver ran into me. In the other case, the driver was busy talking to the passenger and made to turn right before turning left as I was overtaking (in France). I'm always very careful when changing lane, not just looking in the mirror. I generally stop at give way signs to be sure the road is clear. I realised very early on that in the first 6 months after I passed my test, I made a stupid decision at least once a week and learned from that. Driving should be a pleasure, not a race to get into the grave as soon as possible.
@engineeredlifeform
@engineeredlifeform Жыл бұрын
Shame I didn't have a dashcam on Saturday, but I was driving my wife's van, and it doesn't have one. I was just exiting a roundabout up the road from me, and saw an Audi stopped to the left, before the two lanes merge, so checked my mirrors, indicated I was pulling around it, and slowed, to allow the Jag in front of me more time to do the same. But he didn't. At the very last minute he attempted to sweve, but it was too late and he rear ended the Audi. He then pulled a U-turn onto the other carriageway, gestured something, and drove off. I parked up in front of the Audi, as I'd clocked the reg number of the Jag, but neither of us had a pen, and the Audi driver was a bit flustered, he did have a mobile, and could have used it to make note of the reg number. Anyway, a friend of his arrived with fuel, the Audi had run out, hence it was conked out. His friend had a pen so I gave the reg number and my mobile number. I was there a few minutes, the Jag did not re-appear in this time. I checked out the reg number, it was taxed, MoT'd and insured, so this was coming back on him, alongside a failure to stop.
@zaink7037
@zaink7037 Жыл бұрын
Respect you for doing that. A dashcam saved me with an incident I had. Came back home from work one day then had a look at my car 20 minutes later and noticed it was parked more at an angle in the pavement. Went out and noticed someone had hit the side of the car and didn't stop. Had my dashcam in parking mode and managed to get footage of the incident and reg. Guy was driving fast down the road, another car was coming the other way, he braked, wheels locked up and skidded into my car before booting it off. Car was uninsured too. Registered owner went to court and got 6 points and £660 fine and 18 months ban. Would be better if they seized the car too
@konradc12
@konradc12 Жыл бұрын
I have spare cables and mounts for my dashcam, so I can transfer quickly if I use a different car other than my own. You gave a perfect example why dashcams are important. The innocent driver was too shocked to gather evidence. If you had not been witness, that driver would nothing to go on.
@MartinParnham
@MartinParnham Жыл бұрын
I'm not excusing the Jag here but how has the Audi run out of fuel!? Do these flash German cars not have fuel gauges on them?
@engineeredlifeform
@engineeredlifeform Жыл бұрын
@@MartinParnham Doesn't really matter the how's and why's of it. It could have been anything in the carriageway so the Jag should have been able to avoid it.
@04muim
@04muim Жыл бұрын
I think this style of video is very useful and a lot can be learnt from these crashes. I’ve certainly learnt a lot from watching Ashley’s videos and I’m surprised that some of these things weren’t taught when I learnt to drive. For example: -When changing lanes or merging (especially with lorries and HGVs), do not move into their blind spot. The staggered approach helps with this and reduces the risk. It’s far easier for cars to see a lorry, than for a lorry to see a car so I leave plenty of space when changing/merging next to lorries. Try not to sit in someone’s blind spot and keep in a staggered formation if possible -Indicators only give an indication and are not definite. People leave them on and forget to cancel them all the time and some use them incorrectly or not at all so NEVER assume. If unsure, sit back and give the situation more time before acting. E.g. When I emerge out of a junction to turn left and there’s a car turning left into the same junction, an indicator could mean various things (e.g. they plan to turn left into the junction, they plan to stop at the side of the road, they may have signalled too early for a later turn, there may be another drive or entrance to turn into, they have forgot to cancel the signal), this is why I don’t move until I know for sure what their intentions are. -I know the Highway Code has changed and the red car in that clip gave way to the pedestrians but I still take care when doing this. I rarely do this for the fear that this could happen to me. In that scenario, I would have carried on forward and followed the earlier grey car. The yellow car following was assuming the red car would carry on forward and wasn’t expecting them to stop, even if they did so gradually. By moving and clearing the junction, the flow of traffic would be smoother and the pedestrian would have only had to wait a few seconds more. -Try not to make impulsive decisions, remember to do things slowly, steadily and plan ahead if possible. Last minute decisions catch people out if they aren’t paying attention or if they’re following too closely -Finally, this one is a bit extreme but I try and plan for the worst possible scenario to happen. The clip with the white car emerging and hitting the black pick up, if I was driving the pick up I would be thinking about the white car pulling out as the worst case scenario. In this scenario, I usually slow down as risk is increased (not sure if that would have helped but it gives you a longer reaction time). The junction looks like a busy one and its especially hard for the white car to turn right. With traffic building behind them, they have added pressure to pull out and can rush that decision TL:DR drive staggered, stay out of blind spots, slowing down=more time and NEVER ASSUME. Keep up the hard work Ashley!
@JasperKloek
@JasperKloek 5 ай бұрын
Agree on all points.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Жыл бұрын
#6: the indicator was also extremely late. but at the same time, the rider of the scooter would have been hard pressed to choose a riskier time to filter.
@PedroConejo1939
@PedroConejo1939 Жыл бұрын
On two wheels or four, making an overtake, especially on the left on a junction like that, is light-headed.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Жыл бұрын
@@PedroConejo1939 junctions and roundabouts, both, are poor places to be racing.
@PedroConejo1939
@PedroConejo1939 Жыл бұрын
@@kenbrown2808 Tru dat.
@Mudster250
@Mudster250 Жыл бұрын
Ashley states mistakes on both sides for clip 6, but if the cam car is indicating right, the scooter rider can overtake on the left. It may be unwise to pass on the left because the driver may not be paying attention, but it's not contrary to the highway code.
@chrishartley1210
@chrishartley1210 Жыл бұрын
I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume that because an indicator is heard then the driver must have been signalling right. If that's the case, why would he then be attempting to turn left at the point of collision? That makes very little sense. More likely the car indicated left but very late and the scooter was already alongside. I think the gestures were to say that the car driver should have given more room.
@SlimTortoise
@SlimTortoise Жыл бұрын
You can learn so much from what people do wrong. But the difficult part is asking them about it as they always seem to blame everyone else. showing a film clip is so much better.
@brianperry
@brianperry Жыл бұрын
The problem is you have to rely on other drivers being alert, being spacialy aware. unfortunately many are not, they are just damn right dangerous.!
@rdu239
@rdu239 Жыл бұрын
@@brianperry No matter how careful and good you are driving, unfortunately there will always be idiotic careless drivers than can cause you accidents
@GMBasix
@GMBasix Жыл бұрын
Clip 5 I agree with Ashley that a lot of people are ignorant of the changes in the Highway Code, and that reflects that too many people think of it as a test document you don;t need to bother with, rather than a living document to be re-read on a regular basis. But I don't think that's an active element in this case. Regardless of who was waiting (or continuing) to cross, the yellow car's driver drove into the back of another motor vehicle, of whose presence they ought to have been aware. The red car might have stopped for all sorts of reasons, not just pedestrians waiting to cross. This is failure to observe, failure to anticipate, failure to adapt.
@allothernamesbutthis
@allothernamesbutthis Жыл бұрын
the new rules endanger everyone more.
@Rybo-Senpai
@Rybo-Senpai Жыл бұрын
in regards to Cloudmakers clip personally i'd say 70% Car/30% Cloudmaker. given the size of the blind spots on an artic, in my honest opinion its up to drivers of smaller easily hidden vehicles to ensure we stay out of them or take actions to make the driver of any Artic aware of our presence. recently i drove up the inside of an artic who was sat in stationary traffic and a few moment later i noticed the indicator come on and so i tooted the horn twice and i guess the driver got out of their seat and leaned over the passenger side because he shouted at me regarding his shock there was someone there, i can only assume that by chance when he made his observation it was just after i entered his blind spot so until i tooted he had no idea i was there. had a collision happened in the circumstance i described i honestly feel that i would and should be more liable as I chose to place myself in the drivers blind spot as it was my decision to enter his blind spot given he wasn't indicating as i came up alongside.
@mcdon2401
@mcdon2401 Жыл бұрын
I would be wary of going alongside an artic at a junction, regardless of if they are signalling or not. Given how much space they need to manoeuvre, I just presume they're not signalling, and hold back until their intentions are clear.
@Rybo-Senpai
@Rybo-Senpai Жыл бұрын
@@mcdon2401 hence my opinion that if you as a driver enter a trucks blindspot and a collision occurs because the truck simply can't see you then the majority of the blame should be levelled at your feet
@cloudmaker
@cloudmaker Жыл бұрын
Hello Ryan just to update, the Police made no claim against me after insurance viewed the footage so has been recorded as a no claim no fault incident by my insurance. Quite a relief I can tell you.
@Rybo-Senpai
@Rybo-Senpai Жыл бұрын
@@cloudmaker good to hear! Always enjoy watching your clips when they pop up :)
@out-backer7875
@out-backer7875 Жыл бұрын
@@cloudmaker If the police made no claim against you, did they also apologise for their standard of driving since this would suggest that they accepted responsibility?
@Kenjh71
@Kenjh71 Жыл бұрын
Most of these accidents happen because people are blindly confident that others are not going to do unexpected and often stupid things.
@Jack0Corvus
@Jack0Corvus Жыл бұрын
*blindly confident that the world will cater to their idiotic whims
@tectorama
@tectorama Жыл бұрын
I agree. With most of these accidents drivers were going too fast to take evasive action. Then there are those who are determined to have an accident, as they have the right of way. If at a crossroads you cross on the green light, and are hit by someone going through a red light, you can still be held to be partially to blame.
@JulianShagworthy
@JulianShagworthy Жыл бұрын
@@tectorama As the old saying goes, it's no use being dead right.
@kossfan
@kossfan Жыл бұрын
The new highway code rules encourage people to do unexpected and stupid things, such as stopping to let pedestrians cross at busy road junctions.
@xdavemarshallx
@xdavemarshallx Жыл бұрын
@@kossfan less stupid than letting said pedestrians get run over at said busy junction, by not stopping to let them cross safely? Surely if a junction is busy, you should be even more conscious, as a driver, of the potential need to stop at little notice?
@jcardboard
@jcardboard Жыл бұрын
Drivers who just seem to look where the car is pointed rather than where they're going seems to be an increasing scourge. A colleague of mine was knocked off his motorbike in a car park by someone like that. Just drove straight out of the bay without looking. Thankfully it was at very slow speed so he wasn't hurt (bike was badly damaged though). The scary thing is that if the driver couldn't see him with his brightly coloured bike and gear, what chance did they have of seeing a child?
@Skinner8908
@Skinner8908 Жыл бұрын
Wow that first one brought back some memories. I grew up just a couple of streets over from here and back then we (as kids) would use this quiet circular road as a racetrack, I have done hundreds of laps around here in my youth.
@flemit35
@flemit35 Жыл бұрын
05:26, people should have always been looking into the roads they're turning into. do keep getting beeped by cars for stopping for pedestrians, figured the best way to do it where possible is to turn into the road and stop thus putting your car in the way of other cars coming from the opposite direction who may not be waiting for them
@AndyWoodger
@AndyWoodger Жыл бұрын
In my opinion Insurance companies will say its a rear end shunt and the transit is to blame. Unless the Transit contests this I don't think the insurance companies will argue. Personally they are both liable.
@cnbkyn4139
@cnbkyn4139 Жыл бұрын
Even though it’s quite stupid most of the time, I understand the mindset behind impatience however never understood why not signalling if there are other people around. It’s literally the easiest thing to do for a human with fingers yet seems too complicated for some people. People who cause accidents due to not indicating should take courses like speed awareness I think, logic 101.
@andyo1737
@andyo1737 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people seem to reactively signal. ie they don't bother until they realise someone else needs to see it.
@Habu2
@Habu2 Жыл бұрын
The not signalling Cnb is down to sheer laziness and arrogance....gypos and white van man are lethal.
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Жыл бұрын
Clip #3: As Ashley mentioned, there were really no advanced clues here. I will say that when on a main road and approaching a side junction on my left, all other things being equal I tend to position myself out to the right a bit. Not that it would likely have made much difference in this scenario. I'm actually surprised the pick up truck had it's front nearside wheel bent like that. Interesting also to see a Dodge pickup here in the UK. Reminds me a lot of North America.
@RichO1701e
@RichO1701e Жыл бұрын
I would say that looks like saccadic masking from the white Toyota, looking left & right too quickly without seeing. It's far more likely to happen at a T-junctions. Learned this on a Police Bikesafe course back in August, I'm far more wary when approaching waiting vehicles at T-junctions now. If they didn't see a great big American car, how much more so are they going to miss a biker
@shm5547
@shm5547 Жыл бұрын
3:00 I think I would have avoided this collision. I always cover the brake and watch the wheels for movement. The truck driver didn't seem to brake at all. If there's a car following closely behind, I tend to slow right down passing junctions. Could they have done anything else differently? Well, they could have chosen to drive a more appropriate vehicle for UK roads. I wonder how well their headlights were adjusted, the nearside one seems to be glaring in the reflection on the red car bumper.
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Жыл бұрын
@@shm5547 Actually I tend to (though admittedly not always) cover the brake when approaching a situation like that. I will say, in this particular situation I would certainly have slowed a little, at the very least by easing off the gas. Difficult to say if it would have made any difference to the outcome. I'm wondering if there had been enough time to swerve to the right slightly and miss the nose of the white Toyota. Would have required very quick reactions. Positioning more towards the right on approach might have also helped....which if you are driving a vehicle narrower than this North American truck, you would have more room to do without being too far over to the right. I do agree that such a vehicle seems quite inappropriate for UK roads. Heck, I don't even like them in Canada or the USA!
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Жыл бұрын
@@ibs5080 a swerve would not have helped, because the driver of the white toyota was close to going full send., as it takes that much to do that kind of damage from a standing start.
@shm5547
@shm5547 Жыл бұрын
@@ibs5080 do you know what, I think the size of the vehicle might have contributed to the collision. Due to the headlights being higher up than on a regular car. This is also a problem for cyclists who only use a helmet light. A light that is higher up will appear to be further away! If those lights were also badly adjusted and dazzling, the Toyota driver might have misjudged the distance. The heft of the pick up truck would also make stopping more difficult. They really should have been driving more slowly than the lighter red car ahead.
@Pystro
@Pystro Жыл бұрын
In clip 2 I did not hear any turns signal from Cloudmaker's lorry. The movement of the lorry starts at 2:31, when the front of the Peugeot is basically in line with the front of the lorry. This means that from the frame of reference of the Peugeot (which is still in the process of moving sideways, for 3 more seconds) it would have been very hard to spot that the lorry is also moving towards them. (And by the way, I'm not saying that there definitely wasn't any turn signal, it might just have been lost in the bad audio quality and Ashley's constant talking. It's just that without being able to hear when they come on, the only way I can analyze the clips is assuming they never came on.)
@Perseus7567
@Perseus7567 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, another voice of reason on this. I don't get how that's the Peugeot's fault to be honest. I also noticed a) no indicator from the lorry it seems, and b) the Peugeot was already in the lane almost overtaken the lorry before the lorry moved over. I get not moving over in a blindspot, but he didn't. And we can't just never enter a vehicles blindspot otherwise no one would ever be able to overtake anyone. To me, it's just the lorry's fault. He's clearly aware of how big a problem blindspots can be (as evidenced by him setting up a camera to face it) yet he doesn't try anything to check it (car was pretty obvious I think, would've been seen had he looked through his open window)? Makes no sense to me. Opportunities he had to see the Peugeot include: Seeing it move over in his mirror (then just disappearing?) Looking out his window and seeing it (pretty wide car, could probably see it with minimal effort, his lorry didn't look too high up) Looking at the camera feedback (if possible) as it clearly had a nice view of the blindspot. Waiting until he saw the next car had passed him, and he had a track of every vehicle he could see in his mirrors after the Peugeot if he was still unsure. But no, Peugeot was undercover police apparently, so that instantly makes him in the wrong.
@cloudmaker
@cloudmaker Жыл бұрын
Hi there Pystro side camera recording starts on nearside indication. It is very quiet and it can't be heard and I've tried to hear it. All the best.
@jdpjamesp
@jdpjamesp Жыл бұрын
The irony of #9 is that a little past those lights (East Reach in Taunton), only the right hand of the 2 lanes is actually clear to drive further in as the left one is full of parked cars. So the car changing lanes is only doing it to try and win a couple of seconds of progress at the most.
@Habu2
@Habu2 Жыл бұрын
Quite right James....so many dopes wanting to save those few seconds.
@kiradotee
@kiradotee Жыл бұрын
Unless they suddenly decided to turn left. Happens on the motorways, people drive on the fast lane until 50 YARDS left to the exit and suddenly they just exit the motorway from the fast lane.
@jdpjamesp
@jdpjamesp Жыл бұрын
@@kiradotee Definitely possible, but knowing that junction as well as I do, the most likely explanation is they were trying to jump the queue.
@serenahansen2394
@serenahansen2394 Жыл бұрын
@@kiradotee No such thing as the fast lane. Continuing the popular use of that name only encourages people to sit in the outside lane(s) without moving back to the inside lane when not overtaking.
@out-backer7875
@out-backer7875 Жыл бұрын
Depends on the time of day. Another way of looking at this is that there is no need to sit in the right lane just in case there are cars parked ahead, often not until you get to Rowcliffes. Why not use both lanes, then merge in turn once you get to any parked cars? I often was able to sit in the left hand lane and progress easily compared to the traffic sitting in the right, then turn left at the Victoria Gate and never have to change lane. In this case though, I think they just suddenly remembered they needed milk from Asa
@nataliedebiase5089
@nataliedebiase5089 Жыл бұрын
Really helpful for me as a new driver! Especially the one about not allowing the car to fully pass before making a lane change and also pulling out to make a right turn before the truck has turned right, guilty of both of these and hopefully now won't make the same mistake again!
@frankhooper7871
@frankhooper7871 Жыл бұрын
LOL - in clip 10 I was thinking that's a very narrow cycle lane...then I realised it's one I often use myself when turning left at that very same roundabout! And not only that, but I actually saw the aftermath of this crash as I was walking into town.
@benrampling812
@benrampling812 Жыл бұрын
We need to get Ash on a field trip to Ipswich just to watch some of the masterpieces of bad driving that happen there everyday 😂
@craZy_y0
@craZy_y0 Жыл бұрын
Back in 2018, my friend was also a victim to an accident at that same junction as in clip 5 (it's the Yate Shopping Centre car park, it's a few miles out from Bristol). Except he got sideswiped by someone from the left lane in the direction the cammer in this video was going. He was moving slowly into the car park I think and the other guy wasn't paying attention and went into him unfortunately. I think you can still find the footage of that even on Welshdrive's channel, which was also a popular dashcam channel a few years ago.
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Жыл бұрын
Clip #2: One follow on comment regarding these types of motorway junctions in general: I sometimes see drivers joining a motorway via an additional left hand lane that simply carries on along the motorway...and these drivers obviously didn't take note of the huge blue "lane configuration" signs with the arrows, because they pull out into Lane 2 as if Lane 1 is an acceleration lane that ends...and there is nothing for them to overtake in Lane 1.
@mcdon2401
@mcdon2401 Жыл бұрын
Southbound M73/M74 merge sees that sort of thing multiple times a day... not forgetting the BMW drivers that go straight from lane 1 to lane 5, even at 3am when the road is empty 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Жыл бұрын
@@mcdon2401 Not sure I've ever seen a Lane 1 to 5 emergence but certainly a Lane 1 to 2 "without reason" is common.
@cloudmaker
@cloudmaker Жыл бұрын
I am always careful here and was trying to move over to exit at the next junction a few hundred yards ahead. I never thought this sort of thing would happen to me as blind spots are pretty well sorted with only forward to the floor behind the mirrors a problem. It wasn't until seeing the footage that night that I understood how I and all the side sensors had missed him. Luckily after reviewing the footage no claim was made against me and was recorded as a no claim no fault incident by my insurance. So the best outcome I could expect for me as a lorry driver. All the best.
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Жыл бұрын
@@cloudmaker Thank you very much for your first hand input, as well as for posting your video in the first place. Glad for the insurance outcome for you. One thing that intrigued me was the fact that the other driver was an undercover police. I'm surprised therefore that they even disclosed this to you. After all, it's not even something that's relevant to this incident and I would have thought they'd want to keep their occupation under wraps from another member of the public.
@cloudmaker
@cloudmaker Жыл бұрын
@@ibs5080 I did ask that if Ashley used this that it needed to be blurred out. The car was an undercover car and the Police officer did mention at the time that a scuff might make it fit in better for it's role. When he gave me a card with his divisions details it was the GMP's Anti Terrorist Division. Coincidentally we had only recently been delivering there as it had been having a major revamp and extension. I had sent the footage to Ashley when it happened to see what his opinion was and have not yet used it on my channel as I'm not very adept at the blurring thing. Take care.
@quartzlump
@quartzlump Жыл бұрын
I reckon number two was a case of the driver knowing the road a little to well for his (or her) own good. That's where the M56 merges into the M60 anti-clockwise. It's worse than a merge-before-diverge and all the traffic chaos they bring, it's actually _two_ merges within half a mile of a diverge. The position they came to rest on the hard shoulder is halfway between the first merge, and the second. The second merge causes a lot more chaos because drivers get dumped into an junction 2's exit slip, that no one wants to let them out of. People joining the motorway there get given about 100 metres of merge-able slip road (which at 70 mph is only about 3.5 second) before being dumped into lane one, that as you saw from the signs, doesn't continue along the motorway. The next exit slip road starts just 70 metres after that. As you already saw from the signs, lane one doesn't continue along the motorway. So people will pull the most ridiculous moves to get straight into lane two, which causes people to slam on their brakes. Then you get the additional complication of drivers already in lane two trying to zoom past all these people with their indicators on and squeezing into lane one to exit at the last second even when the motorway is running at full speed. People will often therefore try and get into lane three before that second merge (when the grey car did) in an attempt to avoid that common occurrence. Waze shows there's an accident on that half mile stretch most days.
@cloudmaker
@cloudmaker Жыл бұрын
Hello Crystal Sparkles yes I feel that I know this junction fairly well and was trying to leave at the next exit which is difficult to do if leaving much later, I wasn't rushing it and was shocked that I'd actually missed a car at the side of me. Of course after seeing the footage that night I could see how I and the side sensors had both missed him. All the best.
@R8V10
@R8V10 Жыл бұрын
The BMW was initially in the cammers lane but at the last moment changed into the third lane. You can just about see it through the rear window of the Skoda.
@zootycoon22008
@zootycoon22008 Жыл бұрын
Typical BMW impatience 😆
@ThatIrishGuy01
@ThatIrishGuy01 Жыл бұрын
@@zootycoon22008 initially in lane 3 i think then cuts across 2 to 1 then tries to go back to 2, ridiculous
@dutchgray86
@dutchgray86 Жыл бұрын
Quite a typical crash for cash scenario displayed by the BMW.
@kiradotee
@kiradotee Жыл бұрын
Yep, so to answer Ashley's question regarding how insurance will see this, if it can be pointed out to them that with eagle eyes you can see the BMW swiftly changing from 2nd to 1st and trying to get back into 2nd after undertaking a car, definitely BMW to blame and not the van driver.
@insightphoto
@insightphoto Жыл бұрын
@@kiradotee unfortunately that's not true. The liabilty for this collision will be 100% the van's. They should have been approaching at a slower speed, regardless of what the BMW did they would have had a much greater chance of avoiding any collision
@R04drunner1
@R04drunner1 Жыл бұрын
Ģood choice of videos Ashley! Your comment starting at 2:42 made me laugh out loud! Clip 3 would have caught me out too. I think I would have braked sooner but it was still far too close to have avoided the white car. Not a lot you can do if somebody is going to drive into you like that. Sobering!
@paulcollyer801
@paulcollyer801 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful analysis as always. There are differences between cause, fault & blame. If you consider cause to be the initial root cause of an incident, in clip 7, the BMW driver’s stop & lane change is kind of the cause, though you’d need to go back to see why that was. The fault is the van driver’s rather, ahem, poor approach; too fast, Wayy too fast. Blame lies with both. This is why most insurance claims are settled knock for knock; it’s far cheaper to just share the cost between them than it is to go to court, bring in expert witnesses et al and fight it out. Typically 10x more expensive at court (a total guestimate if I’m honest, but you get my drift).
@1over137
@1over137 Жыл бұрын
A recent lesson from Sunday night. "It'll be fine", is not the correct response! Some day it won't be. Scenario. Coming down a bit of road with an oncoming slip road merging. It's an awkward merge from the oncoming perspective up a hill, round a bend. An ASDA lorry was joining via it. "He's a bit close to my side!", I double checked my lane position, but at the time I couldn't see any white lines (glare, rain, headlights reflecting, the reflective stuff on the van lighting up. "It'll be fine!" and carried on with no action. It turned out to be close enough for me to make a "Pfffff...oooooh" noise. Probably less than an inch from the mirror clipping the rear box of the van. I reflected on this. I'm in a car I'm not familiar with, I too often drive it like it's my own which is 6" inches wider. It's not much, but "your body extends to the limits of the car" when you know it well. I was probably riding within a foot of the white line. The van driver probably only clipped the white line. My take away from this was, that is FAR, FAR too close a margin to be playing "It'll be fine!", with a "front right quarter, head to head impact with a van!". That is one you DONT walk away from. If there is time to perform even a small correction in position, even at the last second, it could make you fall on the safe side of the error. The risk of it happening is slight, a 6 inch error in road position is rare, but the severity of it actually happening is far, far too high to ignore. Thats a full airbags and an ambulance, both vehicles at 40/45 mph. No changes. Driver side too!
@daze1945
@daze1945 Жыл бұрын
There is a reason the police no longer talk of road traffic accidents but now road traffic collisions and incidents. None of the clips shown are actual accidents but caused by a persons negligence. You can call it lack of understanding/ observation/ attention etc. it all amounts to the same thing. My granddaughter is about to start driving lessons and I am recommending Ashley Neil because I think she will not only learn to drive but actually LEARN to drive properly. 🤩
@saundersdachicken6197
@saundersdachicken6197 Жыл бұрын
Tell her that overtaking on the left is not classed as careless driving and not illegal. Ashley thinks otherwise and has misinformed his viewers. Also like to say you are correct in saying the use of the word "collision" rather than accident. An accident is the result of an unavoidable collision where one party may have a seizure or a stroke, or due to a fallen tree or an animal running in front of the vehicle. Around 5% of collisions can be called accidents. That has been pointed out to Ashley a few times over the years but he keeps calling all of them "accidents"
@dankicks
@dankicks Жыл бұрын
I’m going to borrow a phrase from Martin Brundle. “Looks like he just wanted to be first to the accident and ran out of talent.” Sums up a few of these.
@OminusReaper
@OminusReaper Жыл бұрын
Ashley i was 4 cars back on clip 8, the guy in the merc was on his phone and wasnt looking at the road because he almost rear ended another cars 2 minutes before when he got out the car he still had his phone in his hand on facetime.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Жыл бұрын
#8 is also the reason I don't race past a line of stopped traffic. slower speeds mean more time to correct someone else's abrupt emerge.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Жыл бұрын
#1: in residential roads and car parks, it is always wise to drive as if anyone else is not paying attention. you'd be right as often as not.
@se-kmg355
@se-kmg355 Жыл бұрын
I would apply this to all roads.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Жыл бұрын
@@se-kmg355 inattention is actually more significant in the locations I mentioned.
@se-kmg355
@se-kmg355 Жыл бұрын
@@kenbrown2808 Sure they are, but they are also noticeable on the main road, people changing lanes without checking mirrors, making left or right turns without checking if cycle land or foot path is clear. My rule no 1: Everyone is and idiot that do not know how to drive.
@Non-Stick_Pan
@Non-Stick_Pan Жыл бұрын
Clip number 3 - it wouldn't have mattered whether the cammer was doing 10mph or 110mph, it was the idiot who pulled out in front of them without looking who was 100% responsible for the collision.
@Richard_Barnes
@Richard_Barnes Жыл бұрын
In #7 I would say the insurance will just go 50/50. The BMW did wrong, however the white van driver should have had enough distance and speed to be able to stop easily themselves, ergo no collision. The fact the white van was swerving as they hit the BMW shows they carried too much speed in or they just were not looking at the time and lost vital seconds to react more quickly to the BMW. Unless the BMW insurance put total blame on the white van as it is their responsibility to leave adequate room in front for such things and if they had, there wouldn't have been a rear end smash up. I will say that if I were the BMW driver and my insurance tried to apportion blame to me for being rear ended like that I wouldn't be happy.
@openyoureyes297
@openyoureyes297 Жыл бұрын
Clip 5 you said until people get used to looking into there exit road these accidents will keep happening, it's a tad worrying that people don't look into a road before turning into it
@ianm408
@ianm408 Жыл бұрын
He did look and saw the car accelerating away. There is no way I'd have stopped for the pedestrian. Its an accident waiting to happen. As was proved in this clip. Even some IAM groups think this new highway code rule is poorly thought out.
@itsthatenglishdriver
@itsthatenglishdriver Жыл бұрын
Crash 2 is very difficult. As an ex lorry driver, I can definitely say the blind spot is massive on lorries (helped by some modern technology but far from completely sorted) and other road users often don’t realise this. Personally I would have been indicating for as long as reasonably possible before merging to hopefully warn other drivers to get out of the way or even for them to hoot or flash to warn me but that’s still not always the solution. Depending on how clear the signal was, the car probably should have held back before going into that lane but not seeing it from their point of view makes it a bit difficult to fully judge.
@cloudmaker
@cloudmaker Жыл бұрын
Hello Spikeymikey4, the left turn signal was on from the time the white van was almost passed me. Only blind spot near the lorry is by the cab nearside between mirrors and A-post a couple of feet out down to the ground. Couldn't understand how I managed to miss him, then saw the footage that night and realised where he'd come from. I see sideswipes on the motorway several times a week and never thought it could happen to me. Anyway after the footage was seen by insurers no claim was made against me and it was recorded as a no claim no fault incident on my insurance. Quite a relief. All the best.
@itsthatenglishdriver
@itsthatenglishdriver Жыл бұрын
@@cloudmaker oh wow, what a relief! I’d have been worried for a long time afterwards myself. I don’t immediately recognise this area but it doesn’t look easy for large vehicles. This really goes to show how dangerous the massive blind spot in lorries potentially is. This almost certainly could have happened to anybody.
@cloudmaker
@cloudmaker Жыл бұрын
@@itsthatenglishdriver There is only one massive blind spot and he just happened to be in it, stay safe fella.
@PsychoticEwok
@PsychoticEwok Жыл бұрын
Had an exciting day today, had a blow out for the first and hopefully last time I ran over something on the motorway and a few minutes later my passenger side rear tire blow out was able to keep control and pull onto the hard shoulder was pretty scary
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Жыл бұрын
#4 is, to me evidence of my philosophy that you indicate turns whether you think anyone needs to know or not.
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Жыл бұрын
Clip #10: Re the road sweeper being left hand drive. I guess what Ashley is eluding to is the restricted visibility the driver would have had to their right for emerging onto the roundabout. This could have been mitigated somewhat if the road sweeper driver had "squared up" to the roundabout to get a better view of the traffic on it. Since the road sweeper is a narrow vehicle, they could have done so and still been within their lane. In a similar way, "Squaring up" at an angled junction is something that panel van and lorry drivers do in order to be able to see the traffic on the main road. One thing I've learned from this clip: Remember that road sweepers are often left hand drive, so if you see one, be on high alert!
@KayMac1
@KayMac1 Жыл бұрын
I'm still confused about the LHD comment. Aren't they single seaters and the seat is directly in the middle like a mclaren F1?
@shm5547
@shm5547 Жыл бұрын
@@KayMac1 not usually. The larger road sweepers have controls both sides, so it can be LHD when sweeping and RHD when in transit.
@KayMac1
@KayMac1 Жыл бұрын
@@shm5547 oh okay thanks. I wasn't aware
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Жыл бұрын
@@shm5547 I wasn't aware of that either. I wonder what "side" the driver was on when this incident happened.
@keith6400
@keith6400 Жыл бұрын
9:14 Road sweepers are often LHD to judge distance from kerb one is sweeping. Some little ones have a central driving position because the unit is very narrow for roads and pedestrian areas. LHD really where side windows don't continue back behind driver will have very restricted visibility at certain angles generally not 90 degrees.
@MrSychnant
@MrSychnant Жыл бұрын
The bottom line is that you must always allow enough distance between yourself and the car in front in case of for any reason that car decides to suddenly stop, child running out or dog etc.
@rdu239
@rdu239 Жыл бұрын
8:23 Driver did not signaled early, never assume vehicles on your side or your back can react fast when you flash your signal spontaneously, Lane changing is the number one fear of any learner drivers
@stormsummers8461
@stormsummers8461 Жыл бұрын
8:16 is Taunton. This happens in the regular. The speed of the road is 40mph but it changes to 30mph very quickly and people slow down very quickly as well because of the speed camera above, on the right. Tough luck mate!
@petersmitham8273
@petersmitham8273 Жыл бұрын
My dad always told me ‘treat everyone else on the road as a complete idiot and if they do something stupid they will do it to you!’….it’s served me well and kept me safe….🎉
@GilesWendes
@GilesWendes Жыл бұрын
3:18 I saw a guy driving with a wheel exactly like that yesterday! 30mph on a dual carriageway! Couldn't believe it AND the noise! Plonkers.
@I_Evo
@I_Evo Жыл бұрын
#4 I must admit I didn't see the camera car move on first viewing. I thought the issue was going to be the flat bed cutting the corner turning right.
@Kris_M
@Kris_M Жыл бұрын
I think the flat bed indeed cut the corner, but probably would not cut into the camera car if that one stayed stationary.
@tpottrell
@tpottrell Жыл бұрын
#5 is in my hometown (Yate), I know that junction well... I'm surprised it doesnt happen more often, that turning on the left is one of 2 main entrance/exits to a major carpark for the local shopping centre and is alway busy.
@thomaselliot2257
@thomaselliot2257 Жыл бұрын
In clip 5 as I have commented before, and I know you will think it causes confusion , but if I was the pedestrian I would wave the cars on till there were no more cars , then I would cross .
@thomaselliot2257
@thomaselliot2257 Жыл бұрын
@C H point noted
@alanhindmarch4483
@alanhindmarch4483 Жыл бұрын
#2. The Peugeot Police? Driver should have known better, he was probably in the LGV Drivers Blindspot as they were not in the lane next to the LGV as they both started to change lanes. I thing I must spend most of my time out on the road, wether it be on my Bike, Motorbike or in my Car, fixing other drivers mistakes to avoid a collision.
@cloudmaker
@cloudmaker Жыл бұрын
Allan you are absolutely spot on. There are no blind spots to the majority of my sides only behind the mirror to the A-post out about 2 feet plus to the ground. I could not believe that I had missed a car to the side of me, until I saw the camera footage later that evening. And yes also spend most of my time having to make up for others lack of road skill, oh and also a lifelong motorcyclist. All the best.
@ottermanuk
@ottermanuk Жыл бұрын
Number 7 is the A27 /M275 junction in cosham. It's a 50, and the left (right as we look) lane goes onto the motorway only and is quite freeflowing. The other lanes go straight/right via traffic lights. So regularly you'll see people undercutting the traffic in L2 (which then forms the three leftmost as we look lanes here) at lights. Classic BMW attitude of undercutting using the moving lane to get one space further ahead. Coming off the motorway here is also awful as it has about 200yds of 3 lanes merging, where you need to get across 3 lanes at 50mph to a dead stop at lights.
@DT-hg7te
@DT-hg7te Жыл бұрын
I got a tonne of abuse for cycling through that junction (as you know, Lane 1 is M27 only so I had moved out of that lane). Proper, serious abuse. I didn't want to cycle through that underpass at night. People get mugged down there. I do not miss living in Paulsgrove, Cambs is much nicer!!
@ottermanuk
@ottermanuk Жыл бұрын
@@DT-hg7te sort of a damned if you do damned if you don't. Always makes me pucker cyclists on that 50 bit because nobody gives a monkey's, but also there's literally no other way for cyclists to get across it East to West without dismounting or massively detouring! They have the space to make the approaching eastbound 2 lanes into 3, and I've never quite understood why they haven't.
@DT-hg7te
@DT-hg7te Жыл бұрын
@@ottermanuk And the shared path cycle lane on the side (you actually see someone using it on this clip) is less than 1m wide and not maintained. It's worthless.
@mattwardman
@mattwardman Жыл бұрын
One does wonder why a motorway basically ends in a big T-junction !
@Grort
@Grort 11 ай бұрын
The first collision reminded me of cycling on a single track road, was approaching a layby and a car rolls straight through it and up to me. When I told him he should have let me by at the passing place (my last one was a long way back), he said he wasn't looking at the road (as if it was an understandable excuse), and then called me an asshole when I suggested he should be looking where he was driving, and what he said was actually worse than what I had assumed, being he said (basically) that he was driving dangerously, instead of without courtesy, as I had assumed. Boggles my mind how many people drove on that road without looking ahead, when both directions of travel shared the same lane.
@larry365
@larry365 Жыл бұрын
That Dodge RAM almost certainly has permanent amber lights. It's possible the two bollards made them look like it was blinking.
@mryorkshireman905
@mryorkshireman905 Жыл бұрын
In the 3rd clip i know that road very well I always take it to and from work people almost always rush out of this junction and pull out in front of you as well as the junction to the right. its a 40mph zone but i always slow and get ready to break at a moments notice people just get impatient
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Жыл бұрын
Clip #2: Both the lorry and the undercover Peugeot had plenty more distance to select their desired lane, namely another 0.5 mile and traffic was moving slowly. In a situation like that with an extra lane appearing plus a lane drop further ahead, I would likely let other traffic "weave around" for a bit whilst they select their desired lanes and after observing this, only then select my own intended lane. To switch lanes early on in this scenario when everyone else is also switching lanes is rather risky in my view. Wait for some "settling down" of traffic to occur first and then change lanes carefully...and with a signal.
@GMBasix
@GMBasix Жыл бұрын
Agree with @ibs5080. Stay put until you need to move or past the junctions. That area has a regular slot on the traffic news. If I was the Peugeot driver: if I had to change lane, I would have accelerated to get into the HGV driver's natural field of view then change lane. If I couldn't do that, I would treat the HGV as a very adjacent threat, move forward asap, and be ready to sound my horn (but that's overlooking the fact that he put himself in that position in the first place). I can't be sure from the side view camera, but it seems that the HGV driver started moving once the Peugeot was substantially in (or at least clearly already moving into) the lane between them. On balance, because of that, I would say the HGV driver bore a greater share of the blame. As an aside, it's a pet hate of mine that indicators are now a triumph of aesthetic over function: in daylight they can be difficult to spot the position you expect to find them on a car, and difficult to spot operating - especially through mirrors from a HGV cab and with the sun reflecting off that side of the car. Fault: 60/40 HGV/Peugeot. And they should fight over 5% against Stellantis for bad design!
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Жыл бұрын
@@GMBasix You touch on a good point for the general case. Namely that in some situations, it's better to accelerate out of danger rather than slow down or even keep the same pace. Not always of course but this situation could have been one one them. I know what you mean about indicators on some vehicles. I can think of two different brands of SUV's in particular that have their rear indicators WAY down, as low as where rear fog lights normally are! And this on an SUV which is a tall vehicle! Every time I see these, I just think it's such a daft design as well as quite naff looking to be honest. Plus, being so low they are more likely to get road dirt.
@map-reduce
@map-reduce Жыл бұрын
Red car in #5 also did a good job pumping the brakes almost immediately as they were clearly thrown back and forth in the seat a bit. They were clearly worried about going in to the pedestrians, kudos for a job well done red car!
@ezraleon6846
@ezraleon6846 Жыл бұрын
2:57 this clip is in Fenay Bridge near Huddersfield! Very familiar with that junction as many people seem to get frustrated with the traffic and just fly out in front of you after waiting for a gap in the other side of the road.
@Equiluxe1
@Equiluxe1 Жыл бұрын
In the case of the lorry versus unmarked police car, I am fairly certain that most if not all the blame lies with the police car, The lorry had to be plainly visible to it whereas the police car disappeared into the lorry's blind spot, no doubt the police will put all the blame on the lorry driver and if they cannot make that stick on all the other motorway users since the road was built, but as the car is more maneuverable than the truck it is really down to them to keep out of the way.
@cloudmaker
@cloudmaker Жыл бұрын
Hello Equiluxe 1 You will be happy to know that after reviewing the footage the insurance made no claim against me whatsoever. So was recorded as a no claim no fault incident. Like your comment. All the best.
@codeymiller5954
@codeymiller5954 Жыл бұрын
for number 6, i could be mistaken but it seems to me that the cam car doesn’t move much at all, and taking into account that the back of trailers cut the corner, it’s possible that the accident would have happened regardless of whether the cam car moved at all, if this is the case, is the cam car to blame at all?
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Жыл бұрын
#7: I put it more X-ray vision than eagle eyed to see which lane the BMW was approaching in. when it becomes visible, it is in its left hand lane, but I conclude from your comment that it wasn't previously. if that is the case, I would place the blame for the maneuver at a conflict between the driver's wife and his satnag.
@dominicr4740
@dominicr4740 Жыл бұрын
Clip 8 is exactly what happened to me at previously safe, recently revised roundabout, where the new road layout is still perplexing drivers into dangerous decisions and lane changes. I barely noticed the impact on by Back near side wheel of little Suzuki but the driver threatened to claim it was my fault if I went to insurance. No dash cam but plenty of photographs of cars and road left him with full fault. All because he saw me pass in his mirror and not by his bonnet.
@GMBasix
@GMBasix Жыл бұрын
Clip 3. Agree with Ashley: there's absolutely no fault on the part of the SUV driver (other than choice of vehicle!). If there's a learning discussion for the SUV driver, I'd ask if they were anticipating the risk, and if so, why they did not brake at all until after the collision (there's no dip of the bonnet pre-impact). But there was no indication that the driver was acting impatiently, no gap in traffic that might reasonably give the emerging driver cause to emerge, no suggestion of the SUV lights flashing, and no way the SUV should be inconspicuous. If the SUV driver had braked, it would be optimistic to think it would have avoided an impact, but it might have reduced impact speed which could be make a difference in injury.
@hikaru9624
@hikaru9624 Жыл бұрын
All the road sweeps I've seen are left hand drive and have signage stating so on the rear of the vehicles to inform anyone behind them. When I find myself behind road sweeps I take extra care overtaking them as I would be in a blind spot for the most part.
@davidjones332
@davidjones332 Жыл бұрын
I would accept that with a large truck-based roadsweeper, but it doesn't really apply in the case of these small sweepers, as they have a tiny cab which is almost entirely made of glass; that being so, it's difficult to understand how the driver misjudged his emerge so badly.
@mhadle1992
@mhadle1992 Жыл бұрын
Well done to viewer number 4 for being brave enough to send a clip in when they’re at fault. Takes lots of guts to hold your hands up and show others that you made a mistake to help others leanr
@Tigermad
@Tigermad Жыл бұрын
I don’t think they are at fault. The pick-up wasn’t indicating and also cut the corner. The cammer only crept forward slightly.
@adambutterworth7608
@adambutterworth7608 Жыл бұрын
There really are some piss poor drivers out there aren’t there. Too many people with the ‘it’s my right of way’ and ‘if they hit me they’re at fault’ attitude.
@markcawley1
@markcawley1 Жыл бұрын
Over the past couple of weeks I've been watching dash cam video after dash cam video. I've really been researching the causes of all of the shenanigans.......recently I posted that I am training to be a bus driver. Anyway during all of my research I have noticed that about 75 percent of the campers are at fault too. Like if someone I'd cut up.......they get so close they have to slam the breaks on, which usually ends in a small collision. Whereas if they just slowed down most would have plenty of time to stop, then continue their journey.
@MartinBarker
@MartinBarker Жыл бұрын
Clip 8 is not just target fixation is also "must get in front", the Focus in front of them is also indicating to change lanes, they pull out with that much speed to try and force there way past the Focus in front instead of allowing the flow and just letting both themselves and vechical in front move over.
@WelshBathBoy
@WelshBathBoy Жыл бұрын
The first video has reminded me, would be good to know your views on a situation when you are on a through road overtaking parked cars on your side (ie you are on the "wrong" side of the road) when someone pulls out from a side street wanting to come towards you and don't look your way because they don't expect you to be there. Surely the give way markings on a side street means give way to traffic coming both ways, even if one is on the wrong side of the road to overtake parked cars?
@ryanmitcham5522
@ryanmitcham5522 Жыл бұрын
>Surely the give way markings on a side street means give way to traffic coming both ways Yes, although it seems to be commonly misunderstood. As well as people inevitably not looking left when turning left, I've actually had people argue about this. The law is quite clear; when joining a road you must give way to all traffic on the road you are joining.
@christopherfanshawe1425
@christopherfanshawe1425 Жыл бұрын
1:48 It is worth considering a couple of factors when looking at the truck driver and the undercover police car. Firstly, in defence of the truck driver, we get a good long look to his mirrors and to the side, from a view point that may well be different to his. He does not have that luxury, because in heavy traffic he can only get a check or two and its timing may miss the movement of the Peugeot. The mistake made by the Peugeot is worryingly common, and often down to poor training. So many drivers simply do not understand truck blindspots, and I am sorry to say that this is still a weakpoint with many instructors. The fact that the Peugeot accelerated forward into the blindspot demonstrates this perfectly, and was quite unnessecery in that situation. This mistake shouldn't be made by a competent driver but I have to add that the police driver has to be held to a much higher standard. Even without the higher levels of high speed training, the level of training for standard drivers consists of many hours in the classroom and in the car. From the point of view of an on duty police vehicle, this should never have happened.
@ianmason.
@ianmason. Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to say that for many police forces there aren't "many hours in the classroom and in the car". Most forces now just have 'basic' drivers for most everyday policing driving and a 'basic' driver has had no more training than joe public. If they are lucky they had a police driving assessment before they were authorised to drive police vehicles but that is all.
@christopherfanshawe1425
@christopherfanshawe1425 Жыл бұрын
@@ianmason. Sadly I will not argue. I had a long, friendly and useful relationship with two of the regional police driving schools. Most of the people I knew quit when the cuts started to bite because they felt they were too exposed to risk of prosecution if things went wrong and not enough was being done to maintain standards. I still believe that the standard is as high as anywhere in the world, but it doesn't mean so much any more.
@cloudmaker
@cloudmaker Жыл бұрын
Hello Christopher, you are absolutely right about the camera not being my view at all. A point that is lost on a few of the other comments. At first I could not understand how I had not seen this car, then I saw the footage later that night then it all became clear. The footage was supplied to all parties and it was recorded on my insurance as a no claim no fault incident when it was finalised. The Police officer was very nice about it but he did not inform me that he had moved from lane 1 and that was the reason I had not seen him. Thank goodness for the cameras. All the best.
@StefanVeenstra
@StefanVeenstra Жыл бұрын
6 is the reason you never overtake on a junction. Especially if you're more vulnerable. If you're going to assume anything, assume other road users do not bother to observe before acting.
@ShaimingLong
@ShaimingLong Жыл бұрын
4 3:54 as a pedestrian I've had that happen to me twice this week. The first time I saw coming, a taxi going a bit too slow as he approached the junction I was about the cross. I decided not to cross, just in case. I don't think he even noticed me at all as the back tire mounted the curb. If I were one of those types that step out without looking, I think I could have been hit in that one. Even if I were less cautious, it's a junction on a busy road so not indicating was inexcusable. The second time, today it was a stupid teen that leap of faithed a sharp turn at a pretty high speed. I'm naturally cautious and saw him coming, but no indicator and the speed he was going told me he was going to keep going and not turn, so I set off to cross my part of the junction. Three or four steps in, the car turns right at me and while I wasn't quite able to get completely out of the way in time, the car only clipped my backpack nearly knocking me over. The moron actually reversed back to yell at me, calling me a few colourful insults, but the car that was a bit behind him stopped and that driver had a few colourful choice words himself, and checked that I was okay as well as confirming guy that almost hit me didn't indicate, as well as having it all on dash cam. So it's possible I may be on KZbin in one of these dash cam compilations soon 😅 Edit: To add, I have two high vis strips on my backpack and I personally wear a very light grey jacket, so in both of these cases I shouldn't have been too difficult to see.
@jammydee8399
@jammydee8399 3 ай бұрын
that bit of the M60 is a ballache. it splits again futher towards the trafford centre so there are 3 options. I always get in lane 3 if going past because it's safer not having to deal wiht people switching lanes at the last minute.
@WRXMK
@WRXMK Жыл бұрын
Clip #3 is fairly local to me. It is in Fenay Bridge, Huddersfield and is an accident black spot. This is a very dangerous junction to use due to the fast dip and the low amount of visibility available when looking right from where the white Yaris pulled out. Since it is 40mph, cars will creep up on you, and you have to constantly keep checking. I use this junction sometimes, but I try to use safer, quicker alternatives when it is rush hour. The council have refused to install signals at this junction, despite countless accidents from this one in the clip and the one a bit further up behind the viewer. It would be beneficial and reduce the congestion that back up at both junctions.
@nathanspivey4514
@nathanspivey4514 Жыл бұрын
Because of clip 5 I don't always stop though the highway code states I should since the changes. Sometimes it seems to cause more risk in doing so.
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Жыл бұрын
Clip #9: A clue that the car in the right hand lane was wanting to change lanes, presumably to take the left hand slip road: That car was not keeping up with the car in front and had slowed down to such a degree that the distance between it and the car in front was now growing. To me that's a sign the right hand lane car was looking for an opportunity to change its mind and take the left hand sliproad.
@Spw1471
@Spw1471 Жыл бұрын
6:58, looks to me like the junction in North harbour, just outside of Portsmouth. Right by my work. I see it all the time, especially if people are new to the area. The lane on the right the BMW slammed hard in is a turbo/flow lane which only goes left onto the M275 at the upcoming intersection then merges with traffic on the M275 afterwards hence there is no traffic, the rest of the traffic, such as the cam car, are stopped in the lanes for the other directions available at the intersection which are traffic light controlled, hence the queuing. The light duration is usually quite long causing traffic to back up quite far down the 50mph road, so unsuspecting people will choose the left lane as theres no traffic but the road signs making it clear that the left lane is left turn only are quite far up close to the junction, so these unsuspecting people speed up the left lane past the traffic thinking it'll take them straight across the junction and then right near the end realise its left only and have to cut in. But theres also people who dont pay attention to the signs and still make this same mistake.
@steviesmiler
@steviesmiler Жыл бұрын
I agree. I think the BMW driver didn’t realise that lane one was for left turn only for M27/M275. Seen many people cutting across from lane one to lane two at the last minute, many a time here.
@Spw1471
@Spw1471 Жыл бұрын
@@steviesmiler Yep I only work down the road from the junction so im there mutliple times daily, such a common sight but this is the first accident ive seen there, however it doesnt surprise me.
@dutchyjamholland9296
@dutchyjamholland9296 6 ай бұрын
worked also in the insurance industry. Most people are mistaken in their belief that if you hit the rear of car, fault is yours. This is not the case. The driver at the that caused the incident could be the one in front. Investigations to the cause of the accident are taken. Sometimes a 50/50 or other blame is applied.
@crispyjokingtuna1495
@crispyjokingtuna1495 Жыл бұрын
For clip number 2, based on the mirror shape and size I’m guessing that the viewer was driving a medium duty truck and although I do agree that it may have helped if they had moved over, ultimately the Peugeot driver was in the wrong as it really looks like they weren’t paying attention giving that they sideswiped a pretty large vehicle
@cloudmaker
@cloudmaker Жыл бұрын
Well Crispy Joking Tuna you are as good at analysis as Ashley is. My insurance company recorded no claim no fault incident after the footage was reviewed and Police decided to make 'no claim' against me. Good job I was only moving over slowly, as I had to get over to lane 1 for next exit. All the best.
@ruinfox4108
@ruinfox4108 Жыл бұрын
You should do more of these crash video analysis'
@devlifedotnet
@devlifedotnet Жыл бұрын
clip 7 is the main exit road from my office complex that heads towards the local town and the M27. The left lane is a forced left turn only lane which takes you onto the motorway without the need to stop for the traffic lights. As such, many of the office workers speed up that left lane (its 50mph for reference) or weave between the left and right lane at stupid speedsand try to cut into the queue at the lights as late as they possibly can because you can sometimes get caught for 2- 3 cycles there at rush hour. I've seen so many near misses and accidents here it's just silly. If you weren't familiar with the road layout or the way some people drive here then I can see why it would have caught out the van with a small lapse in concentration. Van Driver should have been more aware and observant, but if people didn't drive like entitled bellends in the first place these kind of things wouldn't happen.
@robertoulton7357
@robertoulton7357 Жыл бұрын
Road sweeper vans are called 'scarabs' and they are great fun when the battery has a full charge, left hand drive so you can see the kerb..
@1over137
@1over137 Жыл бұрын
#3 - when you change your view from point A to point Z You don't see the letters in between. You don't see anything between the first view and the second, you brain filters it out. You can test this for yourself. You probably already do it and have always wondered about it. Look at your eyes in mirror. Look around. Do you ever see your eyes actually moving? Nope. From your perspective the eye moves instantly. Your brain has literally removed that period of time from your vision. It's quite creepy actually. Other examples of this in effect can be seen by watching someone very, very closely while you throw a ball in a long lob shot for them to catch. They don't actually track the ball smoothly. They look at it, calculate/predict where they expect it will be in roughly 20ms and look there. Wait for the ball, reassess, recompute and jump again about 20ms ahead. Same for reading text. The eyes do no smoothly track along the words, but jumps back and forth over a set of 4 or 5 words. So if the emerging car was focused on the car which passed them and then shifted the view back out the right hand window to see if there was still traffic, they would have look straight past the big black SUV monster and seen the car behind it, immediately jumped for the gap. There is a simple rule given to every single driver repeatedly which solves this. LOOK TWICE. I would add. If the second look does not "tally" with the first, something has changed, delete one look. Look twice until both looks confirm each other. There is a lot of pysco babble literature about this stuff. Particularly coming from the world of aviation and fighter pilots around mental flow states and scanning techniques which force your brain to not skip over things it's expects to see and not fill in blanks to be "helpful". If interested google.
@jeremypnet
@jeremypnet Жыл бұрын
Or, say you’re reading a book and you glance up at a clock on the wall with a second hand. The second hand will appear to be frozen for a beat. You don’t see the clock sliding into view and you don’t see your eyes adjusting focus. Your brain waits until it’s got a stable focused image and backfills your perception.
@stationcolossus
@stationcolossus Жыл бұрын
Road sweepers are usually left-hand drive in the UK, so that the driver more clearly see the nearside curb they are sweeping :)
@tomijmcd
@tomijmcd Жыл бұрын
In the first example of the driver turning right and crashing into the stopped car which had been approaching. Ashley says that the unblurred video shows the driver looking straight ahead of her and not looking where her car was actually heading. The driver was looking straight ahead through the windscreen but the car was turning. Perhaps she could have seen the other car if she had looked through her side window, but some drivers are reluctant to change their field of view so much. This could be because of a major problem of modern car design, namely the thickness and angles of the 'A' pillar. It is a dangerous obstruction to vision. Compare modern cars, and other vehicles, to older ones built before the mid-80s and see just how much slimmer and more upright that the "A" pillars were. This problem came about because of regulations to increase the passenger cage and rollover strength of vehicles and to accommodate side airbags where required and the angle was more acute to improve aerodynamics.
@georgiaalison
@georgiaalison Жыл бұрын
I’m the car driver in #4. Can safely say it taught me a valuable lesson!
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 Жыл бұрын
On number 4, the car doesn't seem to have moved very far when the collision happens. I think some of the blame has to go to the van for turning a little too soon. Even if the car had stayed put, they would have got uncomfortably close.
@Tigermad
@Tigermad Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. No indicator and cut the corner.
@saundersdachicken6197
@saundersdachicken6197 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter how the van took the turn, the cammer must not cross the line until it's clear to do so. The same scenario if the van was going straight and passing a parked car, or overtaking a cyclist, or a pedestrian stepping out. The car should have stayed put until it was clear to move. Car was totally at fault.
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 Жыл бұрын
@@saundersdachicken6197 It is possible for more than one person to be at fault at the same time.
@saundersdachicken6197
@saundersdachicken6197 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasdalton1508 Many collisions may be caused by two road users making an error. In this one it's the cammer who it totally at fault. It doesn't show the van partially cutting the corner.
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 Жыл бұрын
@@saundersdachicken6197 Perhaps not cutting, but coming very close to cutting. You should leave a decent gap when turning in with vehicles waiting.
@Gouranga_Man
@Gouranga_Man Жыл бұрын
@3:53 that's Mugiemoss Road. To the right is a crossing (as seen by the markings on the road). So vehicles slowing is to be expected there. Now. Those Everwarm vans were something else. They could make those vans shift and some had a habit of throwing the vans into corners (without indicating).
@cactusbase3088
@cactusbase3088 Жыл бұрын
Clip #10. Left hand drive and normally not belted up so the driver of the road sweeper likely fell to the road surface and scraped along it a bit. likely to have been quite badly injured.
@ashley_neal
@ashley_neal Жыл бұрын
I'm not liking the fact the driver could be injured, but you read my mind 👊
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Жыл бұрын
I feel naked if I'm not belted up, no matter how slow my vehicle is.
@techgeekout
@techgeekout Жыл бұрын
On your clip at about 7:00, I'm 90% sure that's the big crossroads near Cosham/Port Solent, the road is very badly labelled leading up to it. I reckon there's a good chance this accident would be avoided with advance sign posting of which lane to be in, as its not immediately clear
@steviesmiler
@steviesmiler Жыл бұрын
Yep. Defo A27/Western road, Cosham, Portsmouth. I recognised the road layout in about the first three seconds of the clip.
@andyharpist2938
@andyharpist2938 Жыл бұрын
Lane changing is hugely dangerous action...yet most commenters seem to want every driver to change lanes constantly into the slow lane and then try to emerge when approaching a lorry. Lane hoggers ? I think its more "get out of my way you safe-driver person in front of me. "
@geko7844
@geko7844 Жыл бұрын
05:06 Also shows why you should apply a handbrake whenever you’re stopped, even for a short time. The jerk forward if someone hits you will almost guarantee that you’ll take your foot off the brake and roll into whoever is in front of you.
@GTDpowah
@GTDpowah Жыл бұрын
It would be silly to apply the handbrake in this instance. While waiting on a red light - ok.
@geko7844
@geko7844 Жыл бұрын
@@GTDpowah why silly? You could see the car roll forward when it was struck. What if it had been closer to the pedestrians when it was struck and rolled in to them? Applying the handbrake takes so little effort it’s always best 👍
@GTDpowah
@GTDpowah Жыл бұрын
@@geko7844 yes, of course I saw but this situation calls for quick maneuvers, which pulling the handbrake, especially the e-brake, isn't. You shouldn't just engage handbrake everywhere. It's called a "parking" brake for a reason. :/
@GTDpowah
@GTDpowah Жыл бұрын
@@geko7844 but hey. Each to his own, in the end. :) If it is something you do, more power to you.
@roderickmain9697
@roderickmain9697 Жыл бұрын
I think your undercover police officer should have anticipated the truck move to the inside lane. Its where you would expect a truck to move following the usual exhortations to keep left if you arent overtaking. Also he is on the blind side of a truck and that rear quarter is quite frequently out of sight of the driver. Maybe the truck driver could have waited a little longer before making his move but.... Always have to keep your wits about you and be wary that someone could be about to pull into the lane from the opposite side you want to pull into it. Been there a few times - so far avoided any contre-temps.
@cloudmaker
@cloudmaker Жыл бұрын
Hi Roderick Police decided not to make any claim after reviewing the footage, so although the incident is recorded on my insurance it is as a no fault no claim incident. No cost and no action against my no claims either so very relieved about that. All the best.
@chicklechives
@chicklechives Жыл бұрын
Never move into someone's blind spot - pug & lorry
@cloudmaker
@cloudmaker Жыл бұрын
Exactly correct Chicklechives.
@samcooper1579
@samcooper1579 Жыл бұрын
2:45 love that cheeky comment Ashley 🤣
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