Ashley's Analysis | 2 Clips Featuring @CyclingMikey

[@Figureight]

There is a line between polite safety activism and confrontational vigilantism that too often gets crossed by those who gain a large following on social media.

[@mikewade777]

in this instance he was dealing with a confrontation pedestrian who set out deliberately to agro cyclists

[@captain1664]

@@mikewade777 I'm not sure that is true. Was he not just intoxicated and careless initially. (And don't forget that Mikey had already been aggressive with the Taxi earlier.)

[@JulianShagworthy]

The man in question is a dangerous hypocrite - he responds to poor road safety by increasing danger for everybody, including himself.

[@mikewade777]

@@captain1664 not surprised then I'd be angry to if a taxi was using a shared path.

[@TheKruxed]

@@JulianShagworthy Yea spot on, guys a loser, even threatening some old dude

[@ChristianJull]

Words that always make me cringe: "I've got a dashcam", "you're on camera", "you're going on KZbin". Having footage is sometimes very helpful. Announcing it like a threat very rarely is, and often makes a situation worse.

[@ronrolfsen3977]

I think there are situation where it is useful to make it clear you have a dashcam. For example is someone comes out of there car to walk up to you. People behavior often changes if they know they are being recorded. However not the way he uses it. As if a drunk person would care one bit.

[@TheKruxed]

Theres a time and a place, just like anything else

[@ChristianJull]

Yes, of course. I didn't say it never helps, only that it rarely helps. In about 95% of footage when I hear it, the cammer just comes across as a knob.

[@ArminGrewe]

Especially considering that a lot of people using these words seem to forget that their own, sometimes worse, behaviour is captured by the camera just as well. Not saying Mikey does this (I don't watch/follow him), but I've seen plenty of anti mobile phone warriors plainly obviously staring into the car/van with the mobile phone offender or even looking back for several seconds instead of looking where they were going themselves. Sometimes while shouting "watch where you're going!!!!"

[@thejoin4687]

"I've got a dashcam" + "I'll flatten you" = not very self-aware.

[@johncarnie3726]

One thing I've learnt as a cyclist - pedestrians are unpredictable, ring your bell coming up behind a group of pedestrians can lead to behaviour from them like a flock of sheep - they scatter in all directions! I always hang back and wait for them to settle down, actually acknowledge that I am there and then pass slowly. If I ring my bell and there is no reaction, I always assume they have hearing problems and have not heard the high frequency sound of the bell (in age related hearing loss, you lose the ability to hear the higher frequencies) - so in that case I warn them with my voice, usually a polite "excuse me please". There is no need to be as aggressive and self-righteous as CM is sometimes!

[@michaelgurd7477]

I can relate to all of your experiences. I've had groups walking towards me seem surprised that I am there even though I am lit up like Christmas tree in broad daylight and have rung my bell and called 'good morning/afternoon' to them. At times I suspected that I was faced with the cast of the Living Dead. The other one is people with dogs on those retracta leads. Dog on one side of the path owner on the other and they ask me to come through.

[@ianmason.]

If I was in Mikey's situation I'd probably just say to the pedestrians "Are you folks OK with me coming through?" at which point normal British politeness and self-effacement would probably lead to them jumping out of the way with an "Oh God, I'm sorry! Please [come through]".

[@ynotnilknarf39]

i never advocate bells to the youngsters i train and absolutely not adults returning after a long period off whom have driven and used the horn far too often. they are anti social (though still less so than drivers using the horn) and frankly less effective than simply slowing and speaking, worse case stopping and touching someone on the shoulder gently if the are absolutely tone deaf (or may even have headphones in). Ringing a bell triggers people, particularly after the person in the pink barreled through so close.

[@LeonardTelford1]

Doesn't even have to be age related. I was diagnosed hearing impaired at the age of two, and 40 ish years later, I still struggle to hear bike bells until they're fairly close.

[@AdeboFunkyVoodoo]

With both group of pedestrians on the path, he slowed down, rang his bell and waited for them to be aware of his presence, settle and then passed when there was adequate space. I have no idea what video you were watching.

[@steffenscheibler5849]

My nephew's words after showing him "CyclingMikey" about half a year ago was: "In 2 years of working as a courier in London, mostly on bikes but sometimes also on mopeds, I've encountered less problems than CyclingMikey seems to encounter in a month". I think that sums it up. No way you naturally encounter so many highly tense situations unless you are doing something to bring them on.

[@alank2296]

Spot on Steffen ....

[@46rrodriguez]

it makes sense. Your nephew was in the work hence no time for pointless conflicts. CM is out there to find the conflicts for the clicks

[@tangomoggynoengi8518]

Believe me, couriers are no angels when it comes to obeying the Highway Code... They often don't encounter problems, because they have left the problem behind; when they have ridden off to carry on with their delivery or pickup...! Oh and before you say that I don't know what I am talking about...I used to be a cycle courier myself and have seen a number of others alleycatting; as if they were in a race...!

[@tangomoggynoengi8518]

@@jwalker7567 As much as I am a cyclist at heart, I absolutely HATE it when idiots ride bicycles at night without lights...! I would never ride anywhere, without taking my lights; because I knew that just waiting that little bit longer before heading out, will mean that there is a chance your return journey will be in darkness...! I would always carry and use lights... and even now, even though I am unable to ride through a medical condition; I still light up at night...! I carry a red light on my walking cane and have lights on my shopping cart/trolley. I also have a hi-viz jacket packed away for certain conditions. Nowadays with the advent of seemingly allowing cyclists on any path, it is useful for even us pedestrians to light up and be seen...!!!

[@TheOfficialStal]

Also consider the reason he does this, his father was killed on a motorcycle by a drunk driver, it's a known fact that distracted mobile phone drivers can be as dangerous and sometimes more than drunk drivers. In the same situation I might do the same! However with pedestrians on a shared path it's different and more care should be taken, not everyone understands the etiquette of keep left and the law and infrastructure is fuzzy on such things with shared pathways so it can be confusing when people are ignorant of such things. At the end of the day, just slow down, use your bell and pass people safely no matter what side they choose, no comments needed.

[@fablolliesrock]

Telling British people how to walk, especially on a footpath, is never going to end well.

[@lamf4846]

Not sharing a shared use facility doesn't end well.

[@mynewcolour]

@@lamf4846 How was the lady ‘not sharing’? There were four people on a small patch of path even before he approaches them! Mikey slips up in this vid and shows a mild version of the arrogance he often exposes from lazy drivers.

[@lamf4846]

@@mynewcolour She was being awkward. She heard the bell and ignored it.

[@lamf4846]

@@GolfWhisky Why do people like you always think anyone going more than 15mph is in training for Le Tour De France? Are all motorists frustrated F1 drivers? The woman in question ignores the bell, twice. She does not want to share. And the OP is wrong. It is not a footpath.

[@chrisnumnuts8671]

@@GolfWhisky mikey going nowhere near 25 miles a hour he slowed right down to 3 miles a hours walking speed and reached around 15 miles a hour max on that (((shared))) pavement

[@gordon861]

The correct response to "if you did this in my country ..." is "OK bugger off back there then".

[@reggielounds7180]

😂😂😂😂

[@Sypheara]

yep

[@ihateunicorns867]

Thank you for making such a good, fair and reasoned analysis of CyclingMikey's actions. As a cyclist myself, I get frustrated with the actions of those who seem to want to create conflict for things like this. You never know what someone is going through and so being kind and polite is always the best option. You're never going to teach anyone anything by humiliating them and threatening them. I'm sure that 99% of the time, when something happens like a car pulling out in front of me because they weren't looking properly, just realising that they almost hit a cyclist is enough to shake them up and make them pay more attention.

[@derekheeps1244]

If a car pulls out in front of a cyclist then the cyclist hits the car , not the other way round !

[@Kappazappa1]

I agree, "You never know what someone is going through" this is a principle I use when seeing some of the actions on the roads today. It's based on a mindset seminar I attended years ago, one of the anecdotes was of a person who was passed at high speed on a single track road by what they perceived as a crazy idiot driver, it later transpired that the car was being driven by a young lad who had just received a call from the Hospice to tell him his mother was in her final moments and he was trying to get there before she passed away, so yeah, we should never be too quick to judge.

[@johndd9140]

In today's mentality, everyone thinks they're 100% allowed, or entitled. Politeness, care for others, and courtesy is now a rarity. 🙄

[@doctorsocrates4413]

No...today's mentality thinks they are always right.!...politeness ,care for others and honesty is now a rarity...Because everyone thinks they can do as they please it is these very individuals who fear the camera as it shows otherwise.

[@Bowdon]

It's annoying these days that there seems to be a lot of people who seem to purposely drive in to conflict just to cause a situation. It's potentially dangerous for everyone involved.

[@BionicRusty]

Exactly.

[@edwardtye4119]

I agree. People would rather get into an accident and be in the right than avoid an accident altogether.

[@philipjames3526]

Yeah, I mean look at the drunk guy. He ended up in the road a lot longer than he would have otherwise. All because what? KZbin clicks

[@Bowdon]

@@philipjames3526 I was concerned he was going to step back in to traffic.

[@JakandDaxterAddict]

Yeah I know he has multiple videos set at a traffic island and jumps out at cars when they go around it to turn right. Yes, of course they shouldn't do that, and YOU shouldn't be running out in front of cars that are already clearly more hazardous! 🤦‍♂️

[@Zeyr01]

Surprised he's made it this far without being knocked out.

[@5uper5kill3rz]

he says YOU'RE ON CAMERA, THATS ASSAULT THATS ASSAULT in his annoying accent whenever someone so much as opens their car door

[@Zeyr01]

@@5uper5kill3rz I've watched a few of his vids. The condescending tone & passive aggressiveness tells me he's never had to deal with any type of real violence in his life. It's a question of when, not if. Sure the person who takes a swing will without a doubt be prosecuted but like a kid playing with an electrical socket I don't think he fully understands the forces he's playing with.

[@_IHateHandles_]

@@Zeyr01 Exactly. Some people are so full of themselves that they think they're untouchable. Especially "content creators". Bunch of twats.

[@ayymao1017]

@@Zeyr01 He's very old. The type who would deal violently with characters like him won't bother with an old man. He gets a pass because of his age because you would just dismiss him as on old guy with mental illness/nothing to do. The real danger is if he knocks someone to the court who's from a shady side and they find out it was because of this old man videoing them on the phone or something and reporting it to the police, that could then cause some revenge type thing.

[@originalforgery]

All a matter of time.......tick tock, tick tock......

[@nigelcox1451]

The woman moving to her left, created a space between her and the child, encouraging any cyclist to pass between them, so increasing risk to the child. That, I think was a poor decision. The path is to be shared. We don't know if the cyclist ahead used her bell, but the close pass triggered the woman's reaction to shut down the path, and claim it as her own. After Mikey's first bell warning, it was obvious that the woman was being obstructive, so further bell warnings are likely to inflame the situation. That would be a time to speak, politely, and ask her to move right, to remove the need to pass between her and the child. With her attitude, already inflamed by the earlier cyclist, it could be a difficult situation. She is being unreasonable, expecting any cyclist, jogger, or anyone walking faster than her group, to just follow at their pace.

[@tony_w839]

Interesing interpretation, I saw no obstuctive behaviour, the woman was close passed and then turned to talk to the other pedestrians. when walking you walk in the direction you are facing. So, the woman took a step towards the centre of the path, then stepped back, then Mikey made a poor remark showing his ignorance of the highway code.

[@lamf4846]

@@tony_w839 She heard and ignored the first bell.

[@andyalder7910]

You (and Ashley) have assumed she is with the man and child but she walks faster than them at the end so may be overtaking them. In that instance the slower overtaker has priority over the faster overtaker whether on a road or crowded pavement.

[@ArminGrewe]

@@lamf4846 so you're saying cyclists should jump into the bushes and get out of the way as soon as a car toots their horn behind them?

[@lamf4846]

@@ArminGrewe No, you're saying that. Straw man.

[@ColinSmith2001]

Not sure I agree about the bell use in the first ciip. If you ring your bell early and there is no reaction you only have 2 choices, ring it again closer in case they didn't hear, or don't ring it again in case it's intimidating. Both will quite often create a negative reaction.

[@stevestrange965]

I'd've gone for a nice "excuse me please?" instead of a second bell. I find those ding bells are far more aggressive-sounding than the old dring bells.

[@ColinSmith2001]

@@stevestrange965 Yes it would probably have been better in this case, but my 2nd bell would have been a bit further back, at which time you'd have to shout to be heard as well, in which case that may not seem as friendly either.... Once you are close enough to be speaking the whole situation should be handled a lot more equitably for sure.

[@blake-gl4wn]

Lol the subtle art riding a bike. It’s hectic trying to keep everyone happy (whilst also avoiding being hit by a car).

[@Woppettier]

@@stevestrange965 I quite often get the reaction (mostly from boomers) 'where is your bell', if I use my voice in any way instead of a bell. People will find fault if they want to. Btw in contrast you also have people on the complete other end of the spectrum. They will apologize and jump to the side no matter what way you are making your presence known...

[@climatechangedoesntbargain9140]

@@stevestrange965 i thought bing bells exist, because ring bells are too aggressive :D

[@R3DDL]

When it comes to Mikey, he's made numerous threats. He made the first threat in this instance, which then aggrevates the situation. He's going to upset the wrong person. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@metromadness2016]

I quit watching the guy and have no respect for him anymore to me he is taking things way to far.

[@Dave-hu5hr]

I want to see him get punched in the face.

[@JamesWilson01]

I'm sure he's used that "If you touch me I'll flatten you" line many times and people have sometimes given him a gentle pat on the shoulder and said "Alright old man, show us what you've got". Mikey then proceeds to ride away as fast as he can and never uploads the clip 🤣

[@ytchannel44421]

@@JamesWilson01 If he never uploads the clip how you know he does it? Genuine question

[@JamesWilson01]

@@ytchannel44421 You think I'm going to remember after over a year? Sorry, be faster if you want answers.

[@colinjames5643]

It's just typical of the "I have a camera and need followers so let's make an issue out of non-issues" attitude that seems to dominate this type of content.

[@mikewade777]

People deliberately obstructing a shared space isn't a non issue

[@ronrolfsen3977]

@@mikewade777 The woman was overtaking that group. She was not deliberately obstructing a shared space. Sure her observations might have been better. However it was not deliberate. Just a mistake on her part. So yes it should have been a non issue.

[@mikewade777]

@@ronrolfsen3977 Throwing your arms up to random strangers who just want to get on there way, rather than making space is antagonistic. Plus in general not just this video... People who deliberately obstruct passage is not a non issue regardless of where, be it shared paths or Just Stop Oil.

[@J10Wilshere]

@@mikewade777 We know that’s you commenting Mikey trying to justify your actions when you’re clearly in the wrong.

[@ronrolfsen3977]

@@mikewade777 You are really attributing a lot of malice to this woman for absolutely no reason. She was throwing up her hands because she was right next to the family she was overtaking and obviously, she had nowhere to go. Was nothing antagonistic about it. She DID NOT deliberately obstruct the passage. At worse she just did not look well behind her before overtaking that family.

[@tinakerr8163]

Clip 1. She was being awkward she actively stepped towards the cyclist in the pink coat as they were passing, she also turned around after pink coat passed so she was aware of Mikey she was clearly trying to block the path.

[@EightPawsProductionsHD]

Good on her. Bullies like Mikey need taking to task and made to read OUR laws and highway code before using our transport network in a way that contravenes those laws. He's clearly of the type that everything he does is right, and everything everyone else does is wrong. He's one of the reasons cycles should have visible registration plates like motor vehicles, so in the event of them being an idiot, they can be reported, and maybe accumulate points and have to attend educational courses to challenge their arrogant mindset.

[@julianmason8449]

​@@EightPawsProductionsHD That woman was looking for trouble - you saw how Mikey deals with reasonable people a few seconds before. Then you lose the rest of your credibility with the registration plate suggestion. Just absurd

[@Locost59]

They'd just been close passed at speed without warning, not even an engine. Cutting right though their group and from the words "there's another one" probably frightening them. They were already agitated. Mikey's comment about in the Netherlands you'd have to get out of the way sums him up perfectly.

[@julianmason8449]

@@Locost59 At great speed - Ok... She knew Mikey was coming but chose to block the path. She could have easily got on the same side of the path as the other pedestrians.

[@Denali1600]

Yes she was walking on the far left of a shared path wearing headphones, knowing that there were pedestrians to her right. She was only leaving the gap in the middle to pass, which the pink coat considerately avoided as there was a child there. She should be more considerate of others with her positioning and use her eyes more if she is going to deliberately not use her ears.

[@meterspoor]

I'm from Belgium, am familiar with the UK highway code and have cycled in the Netherlands quite a lot, so I was very much aware of this difference between the continental and British rules concerning shared paths. Honestly though, does it matter that much? If I'm walking on a shared path, I walk on the sides and look behind frequently to be aware of approaching cyclists. If I'm cycling, I slow down for pedestrians and make sure they've seen me before proceeding. Regardless of what the rules are, why not just be nice to each other ...

[@lawrenceholden5716]

Oh, that's wonderful, someone out walking has to do 'lifesavers' all the time in case there's a selfish self righteous cyclist speeding up behind them ! Some relaxing walk that's going to be. Fairer to go for you hit me, I'll hit you.

[@mikewade777]

@@lawrenceholden5716 briefly making room costs nothing a does not detract from a relaxing walk. A cyclists wishing to pass me because they're faster isn't being self righteous. PS, If you deliberately cause a collision with a cyclist your being selfish and self righteous.

[@neddyseagoon9601]

A quick question. When cycling on a road, do you stay to the left out of the way and look over your shoulder and actively look into the eyes of everyone faster, that comes up behind you? No? So, you're kidding me, that you do exactly that while out walking on a pavement?

[@mikewade777]

@@neddyseagoon9601 The answer would be yes , so why presume no. They are also different scenarios dealt differently.

[@Pattoe]

I only started cycling about 6-7 years ago. I've noticed since I started cycling that I now "shoulder check" whilst I am on foot, whenever I need to cross a path or switch from left to right side of the path for any reason (like avoiding a puddle or other pedestrians). I don't think I did this so much before cycling.

[@hikaru9624]

There is a saying I remember from a dog trainer on the internet that went something like this; "if it's not ok for a large dog to do this, why let small dogs do it?". This kind of thinking can somewhat apply here too! If it's not ok for a car driver to behave like this, why behave like that on a push bike? Let's work together to stay safe.

[@kenbrown2808]

clip 1: mikey would pitch a fit if a driver treated him like he treated that pedestrian. I know what she was thinking, and I wish she'd said it to him: "go back to the netherlands, then."

[@thestuff1014]

I used to enjoy walking the canals in Birmingham. However, the paths have been taken over by cyclists. Walking in such a place is not a pleasure, especially when you have children with you. You have to constantly look back, step aside. Even the sound of the bell every few seconds starts to drive you crazy. I haven't been going there for a long time. Does not make sense. Instead of relaxing, you are in constant tension.

[@theyouofyesterday6254]

I know what you mean! I avoid shared paths as much as possible both when walking (especially with my child) or cycling. When I do use them as a pedestrian I stick to one side and keep my child on the outside of the path, and check behind for cyclists frequently. When cycling I slow right down, try to let them know I'm there, then slowly pass as wide as possible when it's safe and won't startle them. If they have a dog or small child or are older, I just hang right back to judge what's going on before ringing my bell or passing. Sometimes people look round and see me, and then spread out to deliberately block me, even though I'm smiling at them and doing about 3mph. I think they're taking out their frustration at rude cyclists on me, a harmless-looking 5ft3 woman in a skirt and heels! In those situations I wait a while, and if they carry on I jump off and jog around them. This is why I avoid these paths both ways - far too stressful!!

[@organiccold]

He is too confrontational.... We all know where this will end one this days

[@alank2296]

Yep and the sooner the better .... he gets off on baiting folk.

[@loftyintentions1985]

​@@alank2296 How do you bait someone to drive on the wrong side of the road or drive while using a phone?

[@Dave-hu5hr]

Hopefully.. Looking forward to the video. 🍿

[@derekheeps1244]

@@loftyintentions1985 Whatever anyone else does is NONE OF HIS BUSINESS : he is not the police and it is not his place to go around informing on others ; he acts like a Gestapo collaborator would have back in his native country in the 1940s . He is despicable .

[@loftyintentions1985]

@@derekheeps1244 did you seriously just compare someone advocating for road safety to a nazi?🤦🏻‍♂️ oh and it's everyone's business when the ignorant actions of another puts everyone in danger. You didn't need to say all that tbh. You could have just said, "hi, I'm a crap driver who cares little to none about the safety of others".👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@mattlister]

I’m always of the opinion that life is too short to waste it arguing. Always have ‘Make it a non event’ in my head. It’s why I stopped watching most dashcam channels as they were just full of people escalating a situation for content.

[@pelicanofpunishment6]

See, I've loved Dashcam channels since I was a learner. And I always looked at it from that point of view. "How Can I safely deal with this?" Still do. Although sometimes, I'll admit, the shock can be just as entertaining.

[@paulhayes6920]

Er, aren't these comments a sort of argument?

[@pelicanofpunishment6]

@@paulhayes6920 A difference of opinion isn't necessarily an argument. Not in that sense. In the sense of making a point, sure. Just I view dashcam vids from a different perspective than Matt does. I wasn't intending to cause any argument as I'm sure he wasn't either by stating his view. All depends of viewpoint, I guess.

[@paulscottrobson]

I have adopted this mantra since starting to watch @AshleyNeal and it has definitely improved my driving. It's much better than a literal insistence of right and wrong.

[@5uper5kill3rz]

CylingMikey literally spends his free time riding around looking for confrontations so I doubt he'd agree, he's pathetic imo

[@ianmason.]

Lets' apply Ash's "would you do that to a police officer" criteria. Mickey: "Don't start with me mate cause I'll put you on the fucking ground.", and "You touch me and I'll fucking flatten you mate.". Yeah, Mickey would be wearing cuffs, his camera seized as evidence and getting intimately acquainted with the contents of The Public Order Act. A disgraceful example of seeking out confrontation to create content, followed by a textbook example of how to try to escalate a non-event into a violent confrontation.

[@jimmycburfield5997]

Thanks Ashley; driving, walking , cycling or just going to the pub. The concept of making things a ‘none event’ has very much improved my life and my interactions with others! I am grateful for the Zen and mindfulness you have taught me!

[@sirwalterkissmecrack]

True, I always think in difficult situations: What would Asley do?

[@jimmycburfield5997]

@@sirwalterkissmecrack too right

[@timeluster]

Have you also come across Ogmios school of zen motoring? Not quite as analytical as Ashley but just as zen, and some fun content.

[@jimmycburfield5997]

@@timeluster cheers for the tip

[@terryable-hh4ck]

That is all very well, but what happens if the 'other party' wants to make it an event.

[@madmick9205]

Mikey uttered those words that are guaranteed to illicit a defensive or aggressive response from people, 'I'll put you on the ground' That shows a persons true nature and purpose. That's simply a bully at play. I have a feeling that he would not say such a thing to me, but if he did then he would have no choice but to either back up his words or simply run! If I heard him say it to the old guy, same would apply. I do not tolerate bullies. I use my camera as a way of reminding myself to behave better, as much as it's for also having evidence. For me, as a cyclist and driver I am all for challenging either ones bad and dangerous road use. My own especially! I always say that we should look out for each other and share the road respectfully. Mikey today has simply proved his true nature and the real reason he puts up posts of the drivers he catches out. It's not about road safety, it's about his ego and a way to bully other people.

[@radishpea6615]

Those words could also could be uttered from the mouth of someone that knows how to look after themselves and is giving a warning to the person in front of them. You would decide to fight, what does that make you? Why not just walk away? If you think you can handle yourself and decide to fight you could be considered a bully because you want the upper hand. If the old guy is the one that is looking for trouble and some old folk still think that can fight like they used to, your protection of the old boy is misplaced. Old age does not always make a victim!

[@smilerbob]

Couldn’t agree more. Gentle reminders is all that is needed A couple of weeks ago I was walking and a van turned left at some lights that is no left turn due to an active crossing. They pulled over (turned out it was a delivery driver) and I asked if they knew it was no left turn to which they didn’t but would remember for the future. Thumbs up from the driver and on our ways we went. No raised voices, no untoward comments, everyone is happy

[@goodyeoman4534]

He also called people who disagreed with the COVID restrictions "COVID rat-lickers" and other childish names. Like all zealots, you must agree with everything they say or they will attempt to dehumanise you.

[@kenbrown2808]

"I'll put you on the ground" constitutes a threat of bodily harm. at that point, he's just a bully, and again, if a person in a car said as much to him, he'd pitch a fit.

[@madmick9205]

@@radishpea6615 I think the video shows that the old guy was not looking to fight. You are right I could walk away, but I simply refuse to. Why should anybody be forced to do do anything due to threat of violence? Or be threatened with violence for not doing something? Has for a person who threatens violence being able to 'handle themselves' That is a person I've not met. A person who can actually fight never threatens weaker people. Nor would they use threats has a way of dealing with others. You are kind of right though, in that I do have to mindful not to become a bully whilst dealing with those who threaten, or, use violence against others. I use a camera to remind myself to mind my own behavior. It's too easy to go beyond self-defense if I allow my emotions to get the better of me.

[@terpman]

I always wondered if having the camera emboldens people to escalate issues, believing they have "proof" of their own righteousness.

[@sanchoodell6789]

It seems to. Ever since digital cameras having gotten smaller and more portable. A famous & one of the earliest KZbin Cyclists "Cyclegaz" was and is still famous for this type of confrontation scenarios. There are, of course, examples of bad road user from motorists & other cyclists BUT there are times when he seems to want to fight everyone and get into bad situations or makes a bigger deal where theres no need.

[@VictheSecret]

Very much so, especially with the so-called auditors who deliberately provoke businesses and the police.

[@TheSadButMadLad]

It seems to be the case with Jeremy Vine.

[@mynewcolour]

There is a bias at play. You only see the controversies. Mostly cyclists have a camera so their loved ones know how they were injured/killed :-/

[@maxdudomite]

They’re being confrontational for the sake of youtube content.

[@J1mston]

This is what I love about you, you go full with personal responsibility. Let’s be frank, I as a pedestrian or driver won’t change the mind or actions of another person, especially in a heated situation. What I can do however is change my own habits and behaviour to reduce the risk of those kinds of situations even arising. If we all took that level of personal responsibility then the roads would be a better place.

[@ericritchie6783]

Of course it's best being able respond to certain things in a measured way in the moment to avoid unnecessary altercations and further stress. Unfortunately the roads aren't going to get any better with only this sentiment of "pErsOnAL rEsPOnsIbiLiTy" being just as relentless and unyielding as Ashley makes it with all his standing and potential influence to affect change. People are not all going to take "that level of personal responsibility," so the roads are not going to be a better place like this. Ashley's is an integral part of the problem, as is the whole area of driving tuition, testing and licensing is in general. After a certain point we should be taking issue with the world as we find it, when bad behaviour is as wide spread as it is. The old "motoring and tarmac lobby" will love the Ashley's of the world with the old "pErsOnAL rEsPOnsIbiLiTy" sentiment plugged ad nauseum and will not think too highly of those such as Mickey who recognise that other peoples indifferent, inconsiderate behaviour needs to be actioned sometimes. Of course dealing with poor behaviour in traffic is not "really" the motoring and tarmac lobby's concern is it. Its kind of better for them the less regulation of anything to do with traffic there is so they're going to love putting out the idea that the only real issue is with the individuals ability to tolerate poor behaviour as granted.

[@supertim7722]

​@@ericritchie6783i love the ashleys. No spine at all simply walk over them. The only way to sort bad behavour out is to punish it. Not "personal resposibility" british people have always stood up for what we see as right. Ashley probably dealt with bullys by talking to them and giving them his money to

[@ericritchie6783]

@@supertim7722 Yeah, the thing is he's generally "reasonable enough" in his sentiments to a point, then it's like who are you meant to convince mate? The sort of people who would already be watching your channel? Plenty of sentiment bear mentioning and repeating, to a point its no bad thing and a decent influence to those who will listen. Yes you should personally respond to situations tactfully as you can manage and reduce extra risk or ineffective confrontation in the moment. After a point it gets well beyond that though, where do you take issue with the world as you find it every day? Roads are horribly managed and create a horrible stressful environment for everyone, part of traffic or not we all have to live with the stressful environment the s%* traffic management creates. Every other *%£ is allowed to maintain a licence driving every day in ways that you would fail your test for, or often be arrested for in many setting other than "motor traffic."

[@supertim7722]

@@ericritchie6783 very true but as an employer once said " if you reward the bad employee then the good ones will also become bad" i strongly belive its why driving standards have got so bad. Lots of bad teachers and drivers arnt getting punished. It reinforces bad habits and encourages others to do the same. Sadly the police seem to have very very little interest in doing there jobs. But that said alot of people dont seem capable of doing there jobs anymore. Countrys just gone to hell and thanks to a bunch of snowflakes its almost impossible to complain or fire people for being bad at what they do

[@ericritchie6783]

@@supertim7722 You don't get jobs in the first place if you have different ideas about what makes sense or how things could be happening in one field or another... No all areas of employment are held down by certain kinds of cliques, or ilks..

[@kevinwilson4447]

Everyone is in a massive hurry these days , but they will always find time to argue , sad really

[@paulscottrobson]

Sad thing is makes very little difference in terms of A-B time. The only thing that really makes any difference is long distance driving on motorways and even then it's not massive.

[@williamfence566]

Cycling Mikey is a content provider in the same style as the "audit" group like DJ / PJ audits. They survive on the confrontation and expected aggression of the content. As my father used to say . One day they'll come across the wrong sort and regret it .

[@JackWilliams-bt8wg]

You'd dread making a genuine mistake and having one of these pugnacious individuals with a camera in your face, The guy will meet the wrong person having a bad day eventually. Feeling like another Jeremy vine who looks for accidents.

[@fastharri]

The woman was clearly being obnoxious and had no interest in sharing the space. Cycling Mikey held back, politely used his bell, and only spoke out when she started aggressively hand gesturing at him. It’s a shared path, there was plenty of space for her to share but she was just rude. Totally disagree with Ashley’s analysis. I like Ashley but he seems to have it in for Mikey, he also doesn’t speak as a regular cyclist.

[@fastharri]

Also, although I agree with Ashley that the confrontation in the second clip with the drunk man was unnecessary, to criticise Mikey as hypocritical for not confronting other cyclists whilst forgetting he opened the clip with him talking to another cyclist for their inattention and poor positioning is quite unfair.

[@peterallen2904]

I am a walker(pedestrian), a cyclist, motor cyclist and car driver. In the past I also drove HGVs and fire appliances. When I ride my bike on a shared pathway I always slow down to a walking pace when approaching pedestrians, particularly when there are small children around. I don’t ring my bell, I think that it could be perceived as aggressive. I gently call out “coming through”. I then say thank you. This works well and everyone is happy.

[@MrHsox]

And you’ve never ever had some elderly person tell you you should have a ring a bell?

[@deyfuck]

I've my headphones set to allow human speech through, but bells still cut through much better. It's annoying having a cyclist come past you on a path when you didn't hear any bell to warn you.

[@richardwaring8613]

I did have an old curmudgeon complain about not using a bell when I waited for him to negotiate a narrow gate and then gave him a huge berth as he was not paying attention to me, as a bike coming past on a shared path was SO unusual. I went past him at walking speed but he still complained.

[@Pattoe]

I've got a nice sounding single ring bell that is very pleasant to the ear. I just ring it once and let the ring carry on. It will create a pleasant tone for 10-20 seconds after ringing. I've never had anyone complain it was "aggressive". I ring it when I'm about 30-40 ft behind someone, and when I'm approaching corners or anywhere a pedestrian might emerge.

[@deyfuck]

@@Pattoe That's all it takes. Just a simple bell ring to let people know not to make any sudden movements. For me the annoyance comes when people go past without ringing and I think "I could've randomly stepped in to your path there, then where would we be?" Just ring the bell folks.

[@DavidBhoy1967]

The problem with guys like this “cyclingmikey” is that he’s constantly trying to create content so situations that should be non events suddenly get blown out of proportion. This is a worrying trend on social media in my opinion.

[@lesley1174]

At some point Mikey will create a situation with someone who will lay him out.

[@paulscottrobson]

But it isn't necessary. You could never accuse Ashley Neal of click baiting - 134k subs at the time of writing. Half the posts are called things like "Good Cycling" ....

[@JojoWasa57]

You think driving on the wrong side of the road at Gandalf Corner is a non event? You do realise Mikey lost a loved one because of someone like the people he's catching?

[@lesley1174]

@@JojoWasa57 No its definitely an 'event',my issue is as demonstrated by the last clip is that mikeys attitude ie "ill put you on the ground" is very confrontational,and he will eventually be 'filled in' or become a 'warm bonnet mascot' from antagonizing the wrong person.

[@JojoWasa57]

@@lesley1174 The vids covered here are exceptions. Mikey is usually dealing with car or van drivers. Yes, sometimes they do get out of their vehicle as I've seen with Gandalf Corner but there there are normally lots of people around. Having already committed an offence you'd have to be off your rocker to make things even worse for yourself by getting physical.

[@RushfanUK]

The problem with people who look for confrontation is that at some point they will come across someone who will respond with real violence.

[@maxdudomite]

Sooner or later he’s gonna be SkidmarkMikey.

[@doverken8448]

Mikey didn't respond with violence though.

[@maxdudomite]

@@doverken8448 Perhaps, but he is instigating a reaction by getting in everyone’s faces. Oh, and don’t forget verbal threats such as 9:03

[@TheKruxed]

@@doverken8448 He threatened some old dude, why would say otherwise?

[@paulscottrobson]

@@doverken8448 Antagonising will do.

[@joshgilmour274]

That’s always been my issue with him to aggressive. Im a bike rider and if that guy walks out in front of me I just pull back and let him cross it’s a non event I’m not going to cause a big issue about it.

[@Jexeter66]

@@cycloactive5858 you absolute tool

[@TheLowerIntestine]

It's a complete non event. Happened just outside Paddington station apparently. One of the busiest stations in Europe probably. And Mikey can't cope with this situation?

[@johnny2hats329]

Starting off by saying 'In my country you'd be scolded' is not a good way to get people to you listen to you lol it's pretty rude and no one could possibly care anyway.

[@meleyeons4686]

There’s been a case near me where a pedestrian was aggressive to a cyclist on a path and the cyclist fell onto the road and was killed by a car driver who had no chance to stop. Pedestrian has been jailed for manslaughter. Aggro just isn’t worth it!

[@johncranna]

Yes, and Blackbeltbarrister talked about it on his YT channel.

[@outlaw6421]

Are you some kind of fool,the incidents you are talking about was not on a shared pathway,the bike should not have been there.making up nonsence .try looking at the facts first..

[@deanwaller1029]

​@@outlaw6421 literal quote by the judge during the sentencing: "This was a shared path for cyclists and pedestrians, I am sure you knew cyclists used the path, and were not taken by surprise".

[@meleyeons4686]

@@outlaw6421 And that justifies someone dying? I don’t think I’m the fool here!

[@Strider9655]

The lesson there, is if people act like vigilantes trying to stop you doing something perfectly legal, and you can't stop in time, just ride into them. Used to get similar thing on canal toe paths, fisherman would pull their carbon rods across the path when they saw you coming, so you'd have to stop and they'd give you a load of verbal abuse about the noisy bike disturbing the fish (as if shouting is better), so eventually i'd had enough of this BS, I sped up my riding from 10mph, to 25mph, and if they did then dare pull the rod across the path i'd try to bunnyhop it, I wasn't very good at bunnyhops and those rods used to cost thousands of £. I was at the time only 15-18 years old and not a big lad, I didn't really know how handle confrontations like that, i'd probably do it differently now, but I think people would be less likely to have a go at a 40 yr old man. Back in those days (late 90's) mountain bikes were quite new and not seen in a very good light by many people, you'd often get chased out of local woodland by forest rangers on quadbikes, just for being there. These days it's worse in many ways, the media has embolded people into thinking that it's ok to abuse cyclists.

[@JasonUmbrellabird]

He was very nice to the pretty lady on her phone. There were around 10 people crossing the road when he had a confrontation with the old fella. Easy prey. The threatening manner was bullying.

[@pocky1scot1]

Yeah, I think his own shoulder check caused him to be surprised and he took it out on the old guy rather than looking at his own mistake.

[@djfmitv]

Keep up the good work Ashley - You're analysis of Cyclingmikey's approach is spot-on. The main addition I would add is that (instead of the highly sensible Highway Code's approach to mitigating conflict, regardless of the situation, as well as not 'assuming' anyone has total priority of the roads) Cyclingmikey is using Netherland's road rules (which actually is not as simple a concept as he's making it out) that are not compatible with UK road rules, as it makes the (absolute) assumption that cyclists have superior 'priority' over any other vehicle or road user, which he thinks overrides the UK Highway Code. This one glaring aspect of Cyclingmikey's attitude, is what makes his riding dangerous (despite his obvious intention to highlight dangerous road traffic situations to increase safety of cyclists). He is following practises that puts himself and others at more danger, as he's following a completely benine set of rules to everyone else, but hasn't had the forethought to realise this. Further, regarding the first clip, Cyclingmikey should've at least stopped and (if he had seen the conflict of the earlier cyclist) offer assistance to the pedestrian who had been close passed, rather than scolding her about how 'un-Netherlandic she is' when she was in the right to begin with.

[@paulnieuwkamp8067]

4:40 Of course the second bell is used to signal "get out of my way". The lady is purposely blocking the road and showing no intention to let Mikey through (keeping the same pace as the people she's walking next to), even though Mikey has done nothing wrong. The lady is punishing Mikey for what the cyclist in pink did, and both situations could have been avoided if they wouldn't hog the SHARED path like they're the only people in the world. She is not "taking her primary position", she's forming a road block. If she was alone, by herself, then I would agree with you, but she's with other people, and by taking up the entire width of the shared path without cause I think Mikey is right. This lady deserves ridicule. Edit: Yikes, the other clip doesn't paint Mikey in a very good light though. That said, I stand by my previous statement as it's not Mikey's actions I'm reacting to but those of the walking roadblock.

[@ChrisBrown-px1oy]

Please read the comment of DivideBYZero69, who identifies the place. This is a pedestrian priority path and most cyclists who use it treat it as such.

[@paulnieuwkamp8067]

@@ChrisBrown-px1oy I'm not versed in the intricacies of UK law, but does "pedestrian priority" mean that in case of conflict the pedestrian goes first, or does it mean the pedestrian is always right no matter what? Because I refuse to believe she can be allowed to keep blocking bicycles without cause, and be legally right. I am absolutely fine with the first, but vehemently opposed to the second. It's still a shared path, and bicycles have the right to be there. If there is no reason to keep blocking the path (for instance because there are too many pedestrians, there's a stroller parked, there's people approaching you, etc.) then you're not claiming your priority, you're being a ****. There is more than enough space for both parties to be there, but the lady is purposely blocking the bicycle.

[@ChrisBrown-px1oy]

@@paulnieuwkamp8067 Apologies, I never answered your question. Nowhere is the pedestrian always right to obstruct a wheeled vehicle. I understood from the cyclist viewer who offered local knowledge that this is a path where cyclists treat pedestrians with extra deference: "total respect" were the words used. This resonated exactly with my initial response to the clip: it was clearly an environment where free enjoyment naturally takes precedence over speedy movement. In practice, I surmised that meant that cyclists would be prepared to get off and walk rather than pass close or expect any accommodation from pedestrians, whom I would rather call walkers here. So the extensive quoting of Highway Code Rule 13 in Ashley's analysis and all over the comments seemed to me beside the point. This put me in a "pro-pedestrian" camp but I have little time for most of the criticism of Mikey here. My only doubt about his cycling is speculation: we can't see how closely he passes the man and child, because his camera turns to the woman. I just thought that even his mild telling-off was out of place; that he (and the cyclist in front) did not understand something about the place he was in and the time he was in it. That's not unforgivable as he probably doesn't cycle there often, and it doesn't mean anything about him. It depresses me, however, that so many of the people commenting and throwing the Highway Code at other were not prepared to make a similar allowance for that woman; my quarrel is with them, not Mikey.

[@highpath4776]

Someone should be prosecuted for threatening behaviour.

[@derekdelboytrotter8881]

Does Mikey know that there are no laws in this country stopping you from crossing the road on a red man?

[@Piazzapower]

​@@cycloactive5858 maybe not, but the fact he started to have a go at the pedestrian and then threatened him multiple times does

[@Piazzapower]

@@cycloactive5858 cycling Micky is the aggressor in this clip, he insults, threatens and the rides off like a coward after winding up an old man. It really doesn't show him in a good light. I would have thought any decent person could see that.

[@Piazzapower]

@@cycloactive5858 When you're in a car and overtake a cyclist, you give them plenty of room, and if they wobble and take up the room you've given them you don't stop your car and start insulting and threatening them do you? If someone did that to you what would you think of them? The same applies here, Micky should have live and let live and made a mental note to time his rear glances better.

[@maxdudomite]

@@cycloactive5858 Imagine a random citizen coming up to you on a bike berating you for crossing the road 2 seconds early. How did Mikey expect the old man to respond? Also Mikey shouldn’t use fighting words if he’s so easily threatened. The old man got into his face because Mikey called him a drunken idiot. Then Mikey ride away then provoked the old man some more because he’s not done with him. Dude needs to act his age, he’s way too old to be playing this kind of game.

[@obscureinception8302]

@@cycloactive5858 You think that "CM" was the _victim_ in that confrontation? 🤣

[@BDX55]

I ride my bike with the same attitude as I drive my car. In the case of the taxi coming through, if I was in my car and I wouldn’t have tried to barge through, I would have waited as he had already made his move. It would have been the same if I was on my bike. He would most likely have waved at me and I would have nodded back. Non-event. In the case of the lady on the footpath, as far as I’m concerned as a pedestrian she has right of way. I would have just held back until there was enough room to ride through and if I did speak I would probably have commented on how poorly the other cyclist has passed her just to let her know that not all cyclists are like that. If no gap opened up as they seemed to be walking at the same pace then I would have gone off the side of the path onto the grass when there was the opportunity. Non-event. With the man crossing at the lights I would have just slowed down to let him cross and pulled into the cycle box. We wouldn’t have even exchanged words and both of us would have just carried on our merry way. Non-event. Everyone makes mistakes, me included. As long as I am not putting anyone else in danger I wouldn’t take kindly to being chastised every time I made a simple mistake. I often watch CyclingMikey videos and sometimes I applaud him and other times I cringe at the way he makes an issue out of nothing. I do wonder how many times his actions are to garner views rather than improve road safety.

[@WestGhirl]

Totally agree! I have a spinal injury so any movements I make are slow. On shared paths I often get cyclists ringing their bell over and over from behind me but failing to adjust their speed. Not everyone can move quickly. Our local shared path is only 4ft wide. Bikes could easily go off onto the grass too. Don’t assume it’s a bad attitude if the cyclist’s speed isn’t adjusted I barely get time to acknowledge the bell let alone move!

[@FlavourlessLife]

Picking a fight with an old inebriated guy while he stands in the road really isn't cool. Did his viewers really watch that while cheering for him?

[@noodlechild666]

I always thought Mikey was from South Africa. He does strike me of being 'making a mountain out of a molehill' type.

[@pageant1fd]

I think Zimbabwean

[@TheDAMeaning]

​@@pageant1fd Netherlands

[@rickparkinmoto]

He's definitely got that South African 'Shut up or I'll burn your village' vibe.

[@pageant1fd]

@@TheDAMeaning he did many months ago state Zimbabwe. But weirdly mentions Netherlands in that clip(?) cheers Darren

[@magnuscarter9195]

I once left a comment on one of his videos regarding his distinctive accent which I thought was South African. He replied informing me that he was , in fact , from Zimbabwe.

[@OllyKilo]

Nah that woman knew he was there and was deliberately walking in front to antagonise him. She raised her arms at the use of the bell. She was taking out her stress from the rider in front on him, by being antagonistic.

[@ChrisBrown-px1oy]

Please read the comment of DivideBYZero69, who identifies the place. This is a pedestrian priority path and most cyclists who use it treat it as such.

[@OllyKilo]

@@ChrisBrown-px1oy Where are the signs marking it as pedestrian priority? Normally if there are no lane markings on a shared use path, nobody has priority.

[@ChrisBrown-px1oy]

@@OllyKilo I'm not the one to ask. I'm trusting another's comment, though I did have a look on Streetview; couldn't read all the signs.

[@captain1664]

I'm sorry Ashley, but I think you were too generous to the blonde pedestrian in this case. You say that she was perhaps taking 'primary position ' to stop bikes passing dangerously. But this is where I see things differently. Effectively she is blocking the road and trying her best to stop Mikey coming past. At any point the child could have tried to cross over to the blonde woman hugely increasing the hazard and risk in the situation. Yes Mikey needs to pass carefully and be perpared to stop is necessary, but wouldn't it have been much better for the group of pedestrians to move to the same side of the path, thus greatly reducing the risk. I do agree that this woman was annoyed by the first cyclist not using a bell or their voice to make them aware they were passing. But then she acted out of this annoyance to make a point when she heard Mikey coming. Surely this is wrong, and what caused the situation.... Finally, I don't like the way Mikey spoke to her either. He should have just passed and said nothing. It was clear that she was annoyed and that this was not her most receptive moment. I would love to see what you think to this Ashley.

[@ashley_neal]

So road users who are more vulnerable need to move out of the way to allow bigger faster more dangerous road users to pass?

[@danielcrafter9349]

​@@ashley_neal- in this instance, they are not a "road user", nor is he bullying by his bigger size I think your view of it is tainted by the second clip Fully agree with OP

[@captain1664]

@@ashley_neal I agree that Mikey's behaviour in the 2nd video was very poor. And I agree that he should not have exasperated the situation in the 1st video by speaking with them. But how is the pedestrian taking up "primary position" helping anyone? The primary position should be used to a) make yourself more visible (Mikey had already seen her as evidenced by the bell) and b) avoid dangerous overtakes by making them impossible to do safely (as a cyclist might do at a road narrowing such as a traffic island). So do you think she was right to stop Mikey from passing?

[@ArminGrewe]

What if the blonde woman and the father and his child weren't of the same family? What if she was passing the father and daughter and respecting their personal space? If the cyclist can't pass safely the cyclist simply has to be patient and wait, just the same as a driver is expected to wait behind cyclists on a shared road when it is not safe to pass them.

[@josephmarsh8235]

​@@danielcrafter9349 we're all road users. Near me, pedestrians have to walk on a road in the countryside with vehicles on a national speed limit road because there is no pathway. Does that mean pedestrians walking the road are not road users?

[@FergalByrne]

People walking in a group should try to avoid using both sides at the same time as this forces us to go between them and risks the small girl in this case. That never excuses being rude and distracting everyone with an instruction to get out of the way, made worse by being incorrect.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

Fair enough if it's a safety thing, but I think it is justified to ask someone not to impede other traffic out of spite... In this case, I think it was the lady was being rude, taking out her frustrations about the previous cyclist on Mikey. Unfortunately, local governments are enamered with shared walking and cycling infrastructure, where for some people its a form of recreation and to others, a mode of transport, akin to a road. That often ends in conflict. I wouldn't deliberately hold up traffic on a bike on a road (unless it was for safety), but especially out of spite.

[@wibbley1]

bikes should avoid riding in packs as this forces us to have a much longer overtake..........

[@jimbo4375]

It's not your right for people to move out of the way though on a shared route. t's a tricky one because after he belled twice she obviously dug her heels in

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

@@jimbo4375 I mean shared also means the lady is obliged not to deliberately obstruct other users. If she's blocking the path (out of spite or whatever) then she's not sharing it either. To me sharing means cyclists being patient with slow traffic AND pedestrians trying to keep to the side and not obstructing others.

[@derekheeps1244]

It does not force anyone to go between them : you have the option to slow down or stop .

[@135Ops]

The lady was just being awkward deliberately blocking the whole path but Mikey just can't help getting involved.

[@cityplanner3063]

Two wrongs don’t make a right. This is what happens when we get two stubborn people

[@neogrid9999]

She could have been, if that was the case, the cyclists should have held back until is was safe to pass. Drivers could not do that same, but there is clearly a different law for cyclists. Cyclists can intimidate pedestrians and get away with it so they do. Simple really.

[@tony_w839]

No, pedestrian had priority.

[@neogrid9999]

@@tony_w839 Of course they had priority but cyclists don't have to follow that they can do as they wish, they won't be fined, the police won't take any action. So actually if you were to think about it, the cyclist can do what they want and a pedestrian has to accept the risk.

[@joevictor53]

@@neogrid9999 It was clear that she was never going to allow him to pass. I'm not with him, I think he was being a dick here but so was she. After he rang the bell to let her know he was behind her, why have their whole family spread across the path?

[@1obsessionafteranother794]

I’ve been walking more these last couple weeks, on a mix of bridle paths, residential streets, and busier roads. I don’t think one group of road user is more problematic than another, I think there’s room for everyone to reflect on themselves to do better and to be more considerate. I’d appreciate more cyclists using a bell to warn pedestrians of their approach on bridle paths. And it’s annoying when a group of people take up the full width of paths and pavements, and are either reluctant to make space for other pedestrians, or simply don’t.

[@dedistaulapanodki6293]

On the topic of groups of people occupying the full width of a footpath or trail, it's fair enough when you come up behind such a group, as they can't see you coming. But when you are approaching a group head on, and not a single one of them moves out of the way to give you space, even when you make direct eye contact, it's immensely annoying.

[@1obsessionafteranother794]

@@dedistaulapanodki6293 I agree, that’s the worst

[@bikeman123]

Use the bell and it gets ignored or is perceived as 'out of my way'. Don't use a bell and we get the retort 'where's your bell'... can't win. Even when shared paths are split pedestrians still walk in the cycle lane and seem affronted when a cyclist comes along.

[@1obsessionafteranother794]

@@bikeman123 I’m not a cyclist and I honestly hate the hate that gets directed at cyclists. I’m sure it feels like you can’t do right by anyone. And I honestly can’t deny that there are pedestrians like how you’ve described. As I’ve been experiencing on my recent walks, it also seems like some pedestrians treat other pedestrians poorly as well. Overall, it’s really frustrating because it just seems like there’s so little consideration of others.

[@AdeboFunkyVoodoo]

​@@1obsessionafteranother794 more and more and more people seem to be living their lives as if they are in a bubble inhabited only by themselves. There's only me in the universe so I don't have to be considerate. There isn't anyone to give consideration to. It's my universe and I'm the only one in it. Society is slowly eroding.

[@domt6802]

Reckon that even if it was someone walking towards the woman she still wouldn't have moved over into single file

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

I think she would have moved for a fellow pedestrian, but not if it was another cyclists. Too much tribalism and Fundamental Attribution Error going on.

[@derekheeps1244]

Just like cyclists on narrow country roads often fail to drop into single file either . Rule is "Never ride more than two abreast" not that you may do so wherever and whenever you feel like it with absolute impunity

[@SpeccyMan]

I'm a pedestrian and I am astonished by the number of other pedestrians I see who do not look when crossing a road. And if I see it, I will take them to task over it - reminding them that they also have a responsibility to keep themselves and others safe. As a boy, I was in the Tufty Club - which was the road safety campaign of its day - and the lessons learned still remain with me. A good friend of mine was knocked down and killed by a car when I was 10 years old and I've never forgotten and I still remember her over 50 years later. When I cross a road I look in all possible directions before and during crossing and this is despite having a very painful form of arthritis in my neck. I know a collision with a car will be far more painful, and possibly far worse, so I bear that discomfort. Also, as I am crossing the road my head will still be moving, looking about to be sure it is still safe for me to be crossing. That caution has saved my life on at least two occasions. My personal pet hate is cars parked on pedestrian footpaths - now that really does make my blood boil. My other pet hate is cars stopped on the pedestrian crossing when the green man is lit!

[@ynotnilknarf39]

The tufty club just like green cross code is a victim blaming tool used to divert away from the fact motorists are selfish bastards whom are allowed to speed and drive with virtual impunity everwhere. Sorry but you're just another victim blamer and ignore where the danger comes from!

[@denaco]

'i'm a pedestrian' lol aint we all until we get in a car or hop on a bike.

[@MatrixFuse]

The woman with the child in the first clip reminded me of those infuriating shoppers in supermarkets who, usually a couple, manage to block an entire aisle whilst dawdling, usually overweight too. They position themselves in such a way the gap isn't big enough to go through the middle but not big enough to go around the side! Grr! Then if say 'excuse me' they look at you as if you've just called their child ugly.

[@doverken8448]

Blocks the discount section with their trolley whilst browsing, complains when after 5mins other shoppers start reaching over. Or the aisle that has a pillar, blocked one side by restock trolleys, a shopper coming the opposite way stops at it blocking your path, knowing full well you're there. Some people spatial awareness and ability to read roads is appalling.

[@MatrixFuse]

​@@doverken8448 you know it!

[@georgelane6350]

Unfortunately there are a small number of pedestrians who seem to deliberately block shared paths. I get it while running and cycling. Often people walking towards you 3 or 4 abreast who will not even allow you to pass in the opposite direction. It seems like they expect me to run in the mud next to the path rather than them dropping one behind the other. Mikey should be used to this with how much he rides and should handle it a lot better. I did laugh when you criticized Mikey for not calling out cyclists 30 seconds after you criticized how he called out the cyclist who went up the side of the bus, though.

[@theyouofyesterday6254]

Yes I get this a lot, so I mostly avoid cycling on shared paths. I always slow right down and try to make my presence known, but I think that makes it worse: as I'm not a fast-moving threat, people don't need to move for self-preservation! I also dislike walking on shared paths because of the cyclists who speed past too close, especially when I'm with my child.

[@Non-Stick_Pan]

I believe that the cyclist using her phone at the junction was likely under the influence of drugs. Clearly showing poor judgement, and her reaction to Mikey as well as her facial expression gives it away.

[@blue_kx2030]

I completly disagree with the lady not moving over. She is walking on the opposing side than her party and after the close pass from the other person decides to stay out and be obstructive. If this was in a car let anger from a previous car direct anger towards the next you would be so much harsher towards the lady I feel. At the end of the day the clip is nothingness. If I was on my bike I would say "how kind of you to moveover" giggled internally at how bitter she was being and gone one with my day.

[@blue_kx2030]

I would add I completly disagree that these Mikey is doing stuff to generate views, if people want to act in such a manor that they generate views then I am happy people highlight this as its a deterrent. If a car had hit the guy walking from a position hidden by the taxi rank with a green light showing, there is no way you ever get S3 RTA. No way in a million years. This change in highway code about prioirty and protecting the more vulnerable does not mean MOP has no due car themselves to look both ways before crossing and following traffic signals to ditcate when safe to cross.

[@ronrolfsen3977]

Just to make sure people understand. His behaviour is not normal or acceptable in the Netherlands. At least not where I grown up. These are shared spaces. The lady in the first one was clearly overtaking a group. As a Dutch person I have absolutely no idea what he expected her to do. The second clip was just absurd. This dude got in more confrontations in a span of two minutes then I have ever gotten in my car or on the bike. Beside maybe warning the cyclist waiting for the bus, non of this is the (in?)famous Dutch directness. Even in my country it would be considered rude and obnoxious. So please do not let this put you off from coming to my country and enjoy our shared spaces. Or even better rent a bike and enjoy the cycling infrastructure!

[@mikewade777]

He expected her to move as any normal person would. Wasn't that long ago when protesters were gluing themselves to roads... "But what were they supposed to do''🤦‍♂️

[@Hill_Walker]

I disagree that it's obvious to Mikey that the blonde woman was aware from the first bell ring. When cycling, I very frequently have people not hear my first bell. From the video it's not clear if it was windy, it was certainly open and prone to gusts, which hampers bells' effectiveness. Compounding this I'd argue the 2nd bell ring is also justified in the age where many are using shared spaces with earbuds in or headphones on.

[@Denali1600]

I know in recent months Ashley's learnt / moved away from purely excellent advice as that limited his audience (as could be a little dry to some); he now posts provacatively for engagement as the debate drives more subs and revenue, fair enough. In clip 1 the pedestrian is on a shared path clearly wearing headphones, and not paying attention to her surroundings. The pink coat passes on her left as the only gap she gave was in the middle and would of forced a pass of the young child (who can be unpredictable). The pink coat rightly reduced risk to the child. She's wearing headphones so reducing her awareness on a shared path. She know's she has the man & child to her right, but decides to block the other side of the shared path. If she's going to deliberately not use her ears then she needs to use her eyes and positioning better.

[@Shyted]

Mikey will block you for saying a helmet will save your life.

[@maxdudomite]

There’s nothing between his ears anyway.

[@williambolton4698]

Well said Ashley but I think you are wasting your efforts with this guy "Cycling Mickey". It's really interesting that cyclists as a group, owe the same duty of care to pedestrians that motorists owe to cyclists but "Cycling Mickey" seems to think that it's cyclists against the world. Everyone else is constantly at fault for behavior that he sets himself up to judge.

[@jamesdewitt84]

I agree with you on the second clip but the first one not as much. The pedestrian was clearly annoyed by the first cyclist and choosing to completely block the path. This is not the same as "taking the lane" as she clearly planned to stay there travelling at the the same pace as the the people she was walking with. But I would have handled this with "excuse me can I get past please".

[@tony_w839]

Other commenters have said the lady blocked the path. Please give the time as to when the lady completely blocked the path. Also, how do you know she was walking with the other people, she may have been passing them with maximum space, a habit fromed during covid.

[@jamesdewitt84]

​​@@tony_w839 she's walking along next to those people positioned leaving no space to safely pass. If she was passing them that would be fine but she's not, she's walking next to them. One group is now occupying the whole path in both directions. This is very selfish. But still, I don't seek confrontation with such people I just politely ask them to move and they usually do even if begrudgingly.

[@tony_w839]

@@jamesdewitt84 She was always at least a metre away from the other pedestrians. She appeared to be walking in the middle of the path, then approaching and overtaking the pedestrians who were on the right, she moved to the left of the path, this appears to be when the cyclist in pink close passed. At no time could I see the path being blocked. If you can say when the path was blocked please give the time. The times I note are when the lady moved to the left, not realising a cyclist was approaching from behind at about 1.55, then the lady kept left apparently not hearing Mikey's bell as she was still in shock at being close passed by the pink cyclist. At 2.00 she moved towards the centre of the path as she was in converstion with the adult and child on the right. as soon as she realised Mikey was there she turned and stepped back, as Mikey passed at 2.15 the lady was within a half metre of the left hand edge of the path, and a metre in front of the other pedestrians.

[@jamesdewitt84]

@@tony_w839 I don't see that at all, to me she's clearly walking with them. By leaving not enough space on either side of the group or between herself and the child the whole path is essentially blocked. Passing people is fine I don't see her passing I see that they are walking together occupying the whole path in both directions.

[@tony_w839]

@@jamesdewitt84 watch the video closely, before the pink cyclist reaches her she moves left to pass the child and adult on the other side of the path, but she does not realise the pink cyclist is approaching from behind. Then when Mikey shows his ignorance she is still on the left and at least a metre in front of the child and adult and moving forward at a brisker pace.

[@truckerlee5975]

Mickey needs to understand that ,although he's on a bike HE also needs to look out for vulnerable folk just like motorists have to.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

That's the thing though, motorists are more likely NOT to look out for others, that's why they kill and maim circa 24,000 ever year just in the UK alone.

[@paulscottrobson]

This. In spades. Like a truck driver has additional responsibility because of the damage their vehicle can do if they make a mistake.

[@bloonface]

@@ynotnilknarf39 That's completely irrelevant to TruckerLee's point.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

@@bloonface No, it's absolutely relevant because people in motors don't look out for others, that's the point! People on bikes DO look out for others and do LESS harm than people on foot, the facts prove this. People on cycles get killed and no-one bats an eyelid, even when it's a pedestrian doing the killing. People on cycles are as vulnerable if not more so than pedestrians, so the point is very valid that it's not people on bikes that should be doing the looking oiut, it's those behind the wheel of motorvehicles.

[@bloonface]

@@ynotnilknarf39 No, you just want to reframe the discussion onto how much you hate cars, which is what Internet cyclists love to do whenever one of them says or does something stupid

[@niallmartin4098]

Like Ashley says this poor crossing would be a non event for most road users, and when driving in a busy city it's almost to be expected, from pedestrians and cyclists alike. A tiny amount of patience is all that is needed. This has only just occurred to me, but I think some cyclists might have a bit of middle child syndrome. Always feeling like they are the victim, but they are not always so innocent. Yes I am one of three kids, so I've seen the scenario a lot.

[@paulscottrobson]

I worked in Central London 30 years ago, and even then it was often a free for all for space, and I suspect it's much worse now than it was then ...

[@niallmartin4098]

@@paulscottrobson yup I've found that on my infrequent times in London and my many times in Bristol, Southampton etc. The funny thing is the guy he singled out was just one of many crossing, he just happened to take a path that made him the first "collision". Also from the pedestrians perspective he couldn't see the cyclist at the point of starting to cross because of the pink taxi. Plus the cyclist could see all other pedestrians and so was very aware of potential danger.

[@mjudec]

Genuine (ok, maybe devil's advocate) question. As this is, technically a junction. Doesn't the pedestrian have the legendary "priority" here anyway, despite the lights?

[@michaelsowerby8198]

Cycling Mikey certainly showed his true motives for what he does, in that confrontation with the drunk pedestrian: no thought to the man's safety, just kept him in the road and argued with him - and then the hypocrisy of ignoring the red-light-jumping FELLOW cyclist! He's definitely had his channel spanked. Well done - from a fellow cyclist.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

I don't agree with the red light running (and at least those 2 didn't go blasting through like some do), but I feel that pedestrians could do with imagining how annoying that is to them, and then appling that to how cyclists feel about them crossing the road without looking (especially when its not their turn).

[@celery4564]

The lady was staying in the way just to be obstructive and cause a problem.

[@paulfaulkner6299]

When I ride a bike I try to make friends - not ride like a confrontational tosser. We all make mistakes

[@bloonface]

I'd never heard of CyclingMikey before but I'm now convinced he's like Ashley's bad universe evil alter ego

[@1ninjatiger]

When I’m walking or cycling on a shared path I stick to the left. I do see families strung out right across the path blocking it and the. They get annoyed when you ring the bell or politely say excuse me. I honestly thought this woman was being a bit selfish..either that or oblivious.

[@jerry2357]

I find that there is a minority of cyclists that don’t consider other path users. I regularly walk on my local canal towpath, and some cyclists travel too fast and too close when passing pedestrians, despite the signs that say that pedestrians have priority. It’s not always obvious that cyclists are coming up behind you, and some ring their bells far too close.

[@kevvybee5517]

I am in full agreement. I have just posted a comment about pretty much the same thing. 👍

[@maxdudomite]

Some cyclists treat pedestrians the exact opposite of how they would like to be treated by cars, trucks, and buses.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

Probably because from a purely mechanical point of view, the cyclists would have to slow down a lot more so is more costly in terms of wasted energy & time. Also if you've got to slow down to walking pace, it's really quite difficult to maintain balance cycling at 2mph. Plus, if the problem is width, most pedestrians (barring disabilities) its also easier for a pedestrian to step onto the grass without falling over than a cyclist. Objectively speaking, its a lot less disruptive to both parties if the pedestrian yeilds. And as to why some cyclists ignore the priority signs, I've heard lots of reasons, might be because rarely, if ever are cyclists given priority, so there's a good deal of resentment and disrespect for a system they deem doesn't treat them equally, else if the shared path is a major thoroughfare for commuting cyclists, yet also a recreation spot for pedestrians, they might feel that their purpose should have priority?

[@jerry2357]

@@sergarlantyrell7847 Walking pace on level ground (as a canal towpath is, except at locks) is 3 or 4 m.p.h., 2 m.p.h. is walking very slowly. Also, why do you think that the cyclists are commuting and the walkers aren’t? My local canal towpath is the best way for pedestrians to get from the Saltaire World Heritage Site to the Bingley Five Rise Locks, a tourist attraction.

[@simonvazquez6751]

Cycling Mikey is an arse. He was openly confrontational to a tipsy old chap minding his own business. As a cyclist I find his entitled behaviour intolerable; He lives in an odd world where any deviation from his classification of normal, is immediately a cause for confrontation.

[@chrislee5096]

For months now, we've only had videos of cyclists decrying the minorities - cars, SUVs, estates, 4WDs, vans, 3.5 ton trucks, 7.5 ton trucks,10 ton trucks, artics, rigids, tankers, minibuses, single deckers, double deckers, coaches, trailers, Police cars. Now, on a screen near you we have ..... cyclists intimidated by pedestrians! Well done CM. That just leaves cyclists intimidated by small children, dogs, cats, fishermen, narrowboats, mobility scooters,, people in wheelchairs, potholes, trees, signs....

[@gazzaman28]

In the first clip, yes the initial cyclist should've used a bell, and clearly that annoyed the woman, fair enough. But despite that, I think she's totally belligerent when he rings his bell twice. That's enough warning and she couldn't even be bothered to turn her head to look at him, she's taking out her annoyance about the first cyclist on him, thus her arm gesture. On a shared path with plenty on bikes coming along, it's surely common courtesy for a group of pedestrians to stay on one side of the path and leave enough room for cyclists to use the other half of the path. He's simply being a dick for the second clip. I've done the same myself, having an altercation with a ped or driver, but i'd never actually stick it on social media, i'd be embarrassed just watching it back once!

[@shm5547]

Mikey does a great job most of the time, but nobody's perfect. To be fair on that first pedestrian, I think they were the one looking for conflict - they moved to the right then back to the left as the lady in the pink top cycled _very_ slowly past them. It was close because the pedestrian made it close, but it wasn't unsafe - it was barely jogging pace. When I saw this clip, I did wonder if the woman was not walking with the man and the child, but Mikey assured me that she was. In that case, it was uncalled for and belligerent to block Mikey from passing like that. I would also say the second bell was fine, because they had headphones in, you can't assume they've heard you. Telling the lady off who was causing a problem for the bus is fair enough. Ashley keeps saying Mikey needs to call out 'his group' (terrible way to look at it IMO) and here he is criticising a cyclist for poor road use. So, yes, he does do that. Taxi - I can understand the frustration. Mikey has got it slightly wrong about 'keep to your side of the road'; where there is an obstruction, it's just a narrow section of road, the line down the middle has no meaning. But yep, that taxi would not have pulled out on an approaching motorbike or car, but happy to bully a cyclist out of the way. It's quite common and yes, it's annoying and careless. Pedestrians just walking out without looking is very common in London, it's annoying, but you just have to deal with it. I would have just swerved around them and carried on. Maybe shouted a 'whoa!' zero-enigma style at them as I went past 😆

[@ditch3827]

Pedestrians just walking out without looking might be annoying but it is quite lawful. Roads are after all pedestrian rights of way and there are no jaywalking laws here, hence rule H2 "Pedestrians may use any part of the road and use cycle tracks as well as the pavement, unless there are signs prohibiting pedestrians."

[@pocky1scot1]

​@@ditch3827 lawful. But unsafe, irresponsible and just plain stupid. I hope you don't just make all your life decisions based on just what is lawful...

[@ditch3827]

@@pocky1scot1 It is only unsafe if made so by other irresponsible road users higher up in the hierarchy. Roads are shared spaces and it is out of order complaining about other road users going about their lawful business even if it might not be the decision you personally would have made.

[@46rrodriguez]

@@ditch3827 come on how it can be lawful in this case. The guy was crossing on red light

[@ditch3827]

@@46rrodriguez Because there are no jay walking laws here and red man lights are are only advisory. The reason for this is because virtually all roads are pedestrian rights of way and have been so for hundreds of years. Pedestrians therefore have a legal right to walk anywhere on the road and in any direction as long as they don't cause an obstruction, obey police instructions and observe the normal duty of care to other road users. Hence Rule H2: "Pedestrians may use any part of the road". If you think that is is unlawful for a pedestrian to cross on a red man light then please quote the law that says that.

[@OutlawJackC]

This is why I love Ash, always gives a fair unbiased opinion, which is difficult for many people to do properly

[@smilerbob]

And also puts his hands up to admit an error when they occur, even if they are very, very rare 👍

[@james-cucumber]

Ash isn’t very biased, but I think it’s wrong to pretend he’s completely unbiased. Everyone has bias, and since his income comes from teaching people to drive, there is always gonna be some bias towards drivers. Managed very well though, and I think Ash strikes a good balance

[@stevezodiac491]

I disagree, the woman was obviously being as awkward as possible.

[@46rrodriguez]

​@@james-cucumber Everyone assumes or analyse other people actions and theres never a guarantee if it gets it right. Ashley is presenting his own opinions on the matter its not the gospel but its informative

[@james-cucumber]

@@46rrodriguez yep, agree fully, that’s exactly the sentiment I’m trying to get across

[@BassBusMusic]

This falls in with the clips from a certain radio presenter. It's almost as if some people are out looking for confrontation.

[@frogsplorer]

This is the terrible effect of social media. Content creators can go too far creating the content. Maybe there is an onus on viewers to only subscribe to responsible channels

[@CED99]

The difference is Mikey will probably take at least some of it onboard and try to learn from it (imo) unlike the presenter.

[@maxdudomite]

All in the name of clout and content.

[@alanrobertson9790]

I used an e-bike at Monsale dale, old railway line used for pedestrians and cyclists. Kids on bikes go on both left and right and generally nobody has observance of any rules. Usually I'm a pedestrian on these paths. I like to give cyclists clear paths and want cyclists to ring their bells, its not rude just useful. However if you are on a path you really want to walk side by side with a family member and don't want to keep a constant look out for bikes. Also some bikes pass you a foot away at great speed. Conclusion is that bikes and pedestrians do not mix well and the enjoyment of both is spoilt. CyclingMikey certainly likes to give advice, often when its not wanted.

[@David-sw2fn]

It can really mar the enjoyment of a walk with cyclists constantly ringing bells to get past you. It is a type of noise pollution and sometimes their speeds make you feel unsafe for yourself or loved ones. Too often the response of cyclists is “what about cars?” while failing to address their own behaviour and impact on others. Clearly, in busy areas like this (first clip) shared pathways do not work well and I can understand the frustration on both sides. However, cyclists need to recognise they are dealing with more vulnerable road users and should ensure the courtesy they demand from others on the road is given by them too.

[@TheGazzadj]

And as we have seen from this video, not always the correct advice.

[@alanrobertson9790]

@@David-sw2fn The idea is to have a relaxing walk in the country not a traffic awareness course. Yes I see the point and frustrating for the cyclists too. Solution. Walk on seldom used paths, rocky paths, have wider marked-out paths or have allocated days to each traffic user. Anything else?

[@David-sw2fn]

@@alanrobertson9790 It’s a tricky one. There are areas (eg a canal route between central Birmingham and Selly Oak) that as a pedestrian you just have to recognise that it is very, very busy with cyclists at commuter times. If you want a relaxing walk, don’t go there. I think there have to be local solutions dependent on the situation (just as some nature reserves ban or limit dogs or bikes while others don’t). A dividing line might help here, though tricky with families given the limited width. The easy answer is that everyone should share the space. However, that’s not so easy in practice as clearly the enjoyment of both is impacted. I do understand this woman’s response. The cyclist may think it’s not a big deal to pass her, but often it can be the tenth or twentieth pass in a limited space of time and it gets very annoying. Who is the space primarily for? Again, that I think it context specific. Yes I think some of those solutions and recommendations on a local basis would be helpful.

[@mikewade777]

@@David-sw2fn I've walked Exmouth to Exeter estuary shared path twice a week in 2018-19, with hardly a bell being Rung... But then walking by the edge of a path isn't in other peoples way. The women in the first clip was a selfish moron.

[@suchcone]

Your channel is so calm and collected, free from the emotions that carry many other people who post road videos on KZbin. Keep it up. Being calm and collected and keeping emotions out is the best way forward every time

[@mr.baconmontages8929]

There is nothing that brings me greater joy than people self incriminating or similar. It is concerning however he has such a large following and people support some of his behaviour

[@mr.baconmontages8929]

@@cycloactive5858 If you watch the videos of him threatening an older gentleman, arguing with pedestrians and provoking aggressive behaviour I think you'll soon realise how wrong you are. Why exactly do you think this isn't self incriminating? This is the definition of self incriminating. Doing something wrong then filming it and sharing it with thousands of people

[@MepsiPaxBerri]

"If we're truly going to make the roads a better place, we all need to work together" Spot-on that. No need for all the aggression and conflict. Let's all just get home safely and calmly.

[@mikewade777]

MSM News story ''clamp down on distracted drivers''..... General opinion in comments ''Police state'',''Obviously anti motorist'','' War on cars''

[@hozzer68]

I find it strange when cyclist shout about being intimidated and bullied by cars users but fail to see their actions against pedestrians are exactly the same, I just don’t understand cyclists self entitlement attitude, it’s quite simple pedestrians have priority over everyone , give way to them even if you think you have priority, if they don’t give you priority you don’t have it.

[@mikewade777]

theyre not the same by a matter of tonnage and speed.

[@15bit62]

My experience as a pedestrian in the Netherlands is that quite a lot of cyclists have an entitled attitude, and are very aggressive to pedestrians who put even a foot out of place. But they have much better delineation of cyclists, motorists and pedestrians and don't have to share space in the same way as the UK, so a pedestrian walking up a cycle lane is actually a problem.

[@symonlibera7011]

I was never in netherlands unfortunetly, but i had this feeling that people commuting by bicycles are or may be more aggresive towards people not on a bicycle (if they walk on said cycling facilities), similarly as american motorists towards cyclists and peds on their roads and stroads.

[@PatrickBijvoet]

As a Dutchman I disagree. It is only in Amsterdam, maby Utrecht that Cyclist react like that. And we certainly do have shared spaces. Only not in those 2 cities.

[@SPTSuperSprinter156]

yeah Amsterdam cyclists are proper lethal. You've got to look up down left and right before crossing a street there. I've been four or five times now and crossing the road over there (because of cyclists, not cars) still scares me half to death.

[@unsafevelocities5687]

@@SPTSuperSprinter156 I heard the Dutch say they've got this eye-contact thing they do to determine who goes first, but it's sort of subconscious. The argument is as many pedestrians are also cyclists they don't like forcing cycle traffic to stop because they know how much of a pain it is to get a big, heavy Dutch bike going again. So zebra crossings are ignored in favour of checking if the cyclist has enough room to avoid them without braking. If there is _enough_ room, the cyclist will just go behind them, but otherwise they'll pause stride to let the bike go through. Also, tourists get this "wrong" all the time and give the "I'm letting you go first"-look by accident. No idea what this look is, mind you, but I assume staring at them because you think you'll get hit might be similar. lol This could be a load of bollocks, but I think it makes sense from videos I've seen and thinking about how a country's norms develop around a different form of transport being so common. But, yeah, they'll get you if you walk in a cycle track by accident.

[@15bit62]

@@PatrickBijvoet Admittedly, most of my experience is from Amsterdam and Eindhoven. I agree they probably aren't representative of everywhere.

[@ire923]

Cycling Mikey.. gives all of us a bad name in cycling 😪

[@ynotnilknarf39]

No he doesn't, that's utter bollocks. Just like all peds that kill other peds and the peds that kill people on bikes don't give peds a 'bad name', nor killer drivers give all drivers same. FFS

[@doctorsocrates4413]

i am a cyclist and a car driver and in that position i tend to dismount and walk by pedestrians especially if their are children or dogs..it only takes 2 seconds to dismount and mount a bicycle.

[@Flakmagnet1701]

unfortunately....this is TYPICAL of the current crop of 'social media' types. Attitude and agenda. Over and above being sensible.

[@uk_phil]

I'm only going to comment on one thing in this video. You need to stop saying Mikey never criticises bad cyclists breaking the law, because he does, quite regularly in his videos.

[@stuarthawkinsspecs]

@AshleyNeal This is a very well put together and well thought out video . Thank you Ashley for your work and true unbiased activism here . I have to confess before seeing the video I was tempted to think " oh another driver chiming in to tell us cyclists what to do when they have no idea and want to bully cyclists " but your analysis was actually very good . I do think this shows @cyclingmikey does need to realise where temper plays a role in road rage and stepping back from a situation and staying calm actually makes the real positive difference . I have been cycling for years and rarely encountered issues which resulted in confrontations and this video shows it really is based largely on your approach to the situation . Thank you Ashley for a good unbiased analysis . cyclingmikey is asking you to " please leave me alone " which is unfair to ask . he is an influencer . Therefore he has a duty to hear both sides .

[@oliverpolden]

I do applaud Cycling Mikey and support his sentiment but he often goes overboard, trying to make a point where he’s technically correct but isn’t forgiving. With the woman, it’s clear she’s already agitated so he should be trying to improve relations, not reinforcing her negative perception of cyclists.

[@Manu-Official]

The way I perceive it, first clip the lady got frustrated by the first bike, then projected her frustration on Mikey, reacting saying ''eurgh another one'' when he rang his bell to alert of his presence, she blocked the space in the middle using her arms, instead of going to the side of the child. Because it is shared does not mean pedestrians should make it complicated to share. As per the second clip, the biker lady on the phone AND wearing full size headphones (instead of, for example, a helmet) needed a not friendly reminder that people regularly get turned into bloody pancakes on a regular basis. I've seen more blunt safety adverts on TV, showing death, injury, and the pain of relatives. Second part, I have had taxis pulling all sorts of manoeuvres like that and some being a near collision. I know that ''I had right of way'' does not look good on a tombstone, but the taxi barged in. As per the bloke crossing outside of the pedestrian crossing, he's inconsiderate of his own safety because he's drunk at noon. Mikey said the youtube word as a reply to the drunk pointing at the camera pretending the camera's footage shows a red light, using foul language and saying ''I don't care'' . Drunk then proceeds to argue in the middle of traffic and doubles down on foul crossing. Pedestrians attitude changed a lot when the new laws were introduced, and I noticed a sharp increase of people playing chicken with cars, something I would rarely see before. Confrontation is not the best answer, I do agree on that, and the fact that in the not Netherland UK you do indeed drive according to the highway code. Outbullying bullies and Karens may not seem the best approach, but that's usually the only language they understand before changing their ways. Considering the amount of drivers Mikey has priced out of the roads, and the hundreds of videos, it's not surprising to see him lose temper at some point. I do agree he wasted his time arguing with a blind drunk eejit for content, but I would not turn him into a full antagonist for that. Quick personal note, I've seen some serious bullies on the road being all over the place for no other purpose than full on bullying. It's funny (and safe) to see them instantly back off when made aware they're on camera. Friday evening there were a few drunks arguing down my street, and then they went onto the main adjoining street. They started having a drunk argument there and created all sorts of traffic mayhem for about half an hour, until the police came to sort them out.

[@rogerkearns8094]

I've seen Mikey take up space and confront oncoming traffic which was already established in a narrow gap, before.

[@paulscottrobson]

That was incredibly stupid. Yes, the taxi was in the wrong, but what sort of idiot on a bike just carries on anyway ?

[@gosccc]

I commented on one of Mickey's post at Gandalf Corner, saying he was doing a great job. I then politely asked that he repremand the cyclists that were also ignoring the keep left sign. He didn't like that and called me a "typical car driver". I left the conversation there, but could have let him know that I also cycle but obey the road signs and lights at all times.

[@loftyintentions1985]

How would you like him to reprimand a cyclist?

[@gosccc]

@@loftyintentions1985 He could mention it in his comments, but he never does. He could also speak to them as the pass by.

[@loftyintentions1985]

@@gosccc I've seen and heard him comment on it a number of times.

[@gosccc]

@@loftyintentions1985 That's good to hear. Thank you.

[@irresistablejewel]

Standing in the middle of the road (with back to oncoming vehicles) trying to direct traffic is itself an offense. Since he already has evidence these altercations are just for content and the angrier he can make drivers the better for him. Now he is hanging around in Hyde Park, which hasn't had a serious accident for years; exploiting a rather dubious law from 2022; often cycling on the wrong side of the road (with cycle lanes available); tapping on windows and talking to drivers. I no longer support what he does; he's far from being a model road user and it seems to be about money. Swearing at pedestrians... it's not a good look.

[@Darth_Benga]

I disagree with your comment on the lady in the first video: she's just being awkward. She should be on the same side as her husband and child thus giving enough space for Mikey to pass on one side, not between them.

[@catherton4]

For a drunk guy, he maintain s his cool, Mikey on the other hand started aggressively & never let up, what a great example to everyone of how not to do it. Oh, & I have been a cyclist for years! & hey, be safe out there!

[@ianb2877]

Sorry but the woman pedestrian blocked the path on purpose because of the flou rider being too close, she had no need to block another cyclist after he had done the correct thing, ringing his bell to make her aware he was there. She needs to be told its a 'shared' path, clearly they were talking up the whole path intentionally.

[@ChrisBrown-px1oy]

Please read the comment of DivideBYZero69, who identifies the place. This is a pedestrian priority path and most cyclists who use it treat it as such.

[@Dudebalf]

The way I see it she was annoyed with the first and then just decided to block him, she is walking with them at the same speed, so he should just stay there forever?

[@littlebag123]

She’s been awkward making it harder for a cyclist to pass safe

[@badboy0607]

A cyclist looking for trouble and attention. I'm a cyclist myself and one should enjoy their ride and time on the saddle. Not create unnecessary drama. Still I suppose anything for more hits on social media and youtube for some these days. Such a pathetic society at times.

[@badboy0607]

@@cycloactive5858 no they should all behave like idiots as Mikey does. 👍🏽

[@samknight9577]

Picking a fight with Bill Bailey is well out of order.😄

[@neogrid9999]

LOL that's a classic one

[@ChrisBrown-px1oy]

Bill's let himself go

[@neogrid9999]

@@ChrisBrown-px1oy LOL it was just hair of the dog

[@Oliver9402]

cycling mikey is quite an obnoxious individual and is only a matter of time before he gets himself in trouble. Also London police using him as a snitch is not good practice.

[@VictheSecret]

He probably already has been in receipt of the odd slap, but too embarrassed to upload the video.

[@Hill_Walker]

Good to know you have the attitude of not reporting active burglaries if you were witness to them. Glad you're not my neighbour.

[@Oliver9402]

@hillwalker5333 show me one video where Mike stopped an immediate danger? I'll show you where he was in breach of the peace and road traffic acts himself and he should be fined and cautioned for his own dangerous road use.

[@thefrenchareharlequins2743]

​@@Hill_WalkerThe precise difference here is that a burglar poses an actual threat to my property, most videos I have seen are stationary motorists distracting themselves, which as inconsiderate as that may be isn't going to threaten my property.

[@nicks6649]

He trawls up and down stationary lines of traffic in Hyde Park - Context is everything. How many serious accidents / deaths have there been in Hyde Park duevto phone use? The man is just making a buck and getting a kick out of destroying other people's lives snd then putting them all over youtube.

[@markellott5620]

Cycling Mikey is not a road safety advocate, he has a bad attitude and is unnecessarily confrontational. Another Jeremy Vine. Both of those incidents could have been dealt with easily without becoming incidents with some reading of the road and forward planning.

[@MrPianist7]

Bang on Ashley. This guy only seeks confrontation and if you look for it you'll find it everywhere. He says he's a professional carer, God help the patients. Why didn't he stay in the Netherlands, they love cyclists there