Ask GCN Anything About Cycling | Gravel Special

[@gcn]

Keep all your gravel questions coming in across our channel using the hashtag #torqueback

[@mediumrick7667]

Gravel the new road? Wouldn't it be the old road?

[@mlee6050]

not gravel question but is there a way to make or buy a bone conduction aero helmet? I want to hear music but would like an aero helmet (mainly as has a visor on it that better than cycle glasses as glasses make wind hit my eyes so they water at like 15+mph)

[@NewEnglandDirtRoadie]

i think "gravel" is actually the ORIGINAL "road"

[@taufikabidin412]

smp156 before cyclists lobbied the gov to smooth them out

[@rodrigormelo]

She should definitely be a permanent host on GCN. Katherine "rocks"!

[@gcn]

Haha, thanks Rodrigo

[@pbassred]

Gravel riding is only hash terrain touring really. Its been around forever. Its not new. When I was a kid in the seventies most bikes were utility even if they had drop handlebars. Mine had 1 1/4"" tires. Its what Road and Mountain grew out of as a result of chasing an ideal. This, and the video that Emma and Matt did of Adulacia, make me wonder about drive train wear. Sand and gravel over distance maybe over days. Do I really want to tour the coast roads of the Algarve?

[@Sjoerdverbraak]

More Katherine please😁

[@gcn]

We will be following Katherine for the Dirty Kanza ride to stay tuned!

[@jazzguitarjackson]

Yes! She is very charming and comfortable on camera!

[@blimseynoeyes]

It’s probably getting more popular as people are sick to death of nearly been killed every other ride on their road bike, sorry for the negative slant! Nice vid 👍

[@keepingtherubberdown5715]

The best thing about riding in general is to see a road and take it. No matter if asphalt, gravel or dirt. Just go explore and get out of the norm. And people should look at the stones to define if they need to change up the bike tires. 28's won't always work.

[@gcn]

Cheers Anthony, we agree with you there, great to get out on two wheels!

[@johnpaton8047]

Nice seeing Katherine up for bat. Excellent contributions.

[@gcn]

Cheers John

[@zoid88]

Lots of salty comments about how gravel is silly, and people wonder why others are put off cycling. You should ride what you want how you want. No one is complaining when GCN cover a new super fast aero bike, so why is it an issue when they cover a new type of riding on bikes that are far more practical for the majority of riders.

[@taufikabidin412]

Adam Craggs practical ordinary people and racers don't mix, plus these cx and gravels blur the distinction of road and mtb

[@gcn]

Hey Adam, it's all about getting more people on two wheels 🚲

[@benswanepoel]

Big "UP" to Catherine, really comes over so well as a presenter! Clear voice and so relaxed and confident!

[@gcn]

Stay tuned Ben!

[@AndyVandy516]

Bring Katherine back! She did so well!

[@gcn]

Thanks Andy, we will be following Katherine as she tackles the DK so stay tuned!

[@steveb1972]

Hi Katherine nice to know who runs the socials! My gravel bike gets used on and off road. I use Continental Contact Travel tyres. Roll really nicely on tarmac and grippy for dirt and gravel. Very puncture proof too. A little heavier, but worth it. They do a wide range of widths.

[@brianschiff35]

I’m going to ride from Washington DC to Pittsburgh, 340 miles of gravel trails. GCN, want to with me?

[@gcn]

Sounds awesome Brian, thanks for the invite!

[@edmarkey4057]

Sounds like the C&O and GAP. Have you done that ride before?

[@JonCannings]

Great work Katherine. 👍

[@mfiola13]

Love that you guys are finally talking about the Dirt Kanza! It's brutal, epic, and crazy fun.

[@gcn]

We can't wait to follow Katherine!

[@robert_mn]

Great job Katherine. Hope GCN keeps us updated on your training.

[@gcn]

Hey Robert, of course, we will! We are super excited!

[@DickSuit]

the more estrogen you add the better the show gets

[@phillentz6742]

First Emma, now Katherine, what a delight. More please!

[@gcn]

Stay tuned!

[@lisapet160]

Gravel grinding is NOT a new discipline: it's the olderst cycling discipline, the first bike rides in the history were done on gravel.

[@gravelcycling9267]

Here in the U.S. Midwest a lot of local bike shops to 'Intro to Gravel' type rides and seminars. But its very popular here.

[@lynneberridge]

Well done Catherine, you did a great job! Loved your presenting style, please can we see you on more videos xx

[@gcn]

Cheers Lynne. We will be following Katherine for the Dirty Kanza so stay tuned!

[@ARKINHK]

Fantastic video all. However, the reflected glare of the lights on Katherine’s glasses was distracting. Not bad, but something to consider for future vids. Love all your content.

[@gcn]

Thanks WoTExpat, glad you enjoyed the video!

[@scootosan]

Bring Katherine back after her event for a follow up. For things she liked or would do differently etc...

[@gcn]

Hey scootosan, that's a great idea! Cheers, Katherine

[@rafaeldegiacomoaraujo8778]

I use a CX bike for CX, bike packing and gravel riding as well. CX bikes do it all.

[@joomzb]

Naebother Pal me too, not an n+1 man myself. Love having a bike that does it all

[@taufikabidin412]

Touring is a the forbidden word, hahaha.

[@rafaeldegiacomoaraujo8778]

Touring means heavy kitchen sink attached to your bike. But bike packing means aero, light long distance everyday set up :P

[@gcn]

Awesome stuff Rafael!

[@MrStevemojo]

Just received my new socks ,soo proud :) Founder member in the house !! great Q+A as always , Katherine, is awesome!

[@gcn]

Welcome to the Club! 💪

[@thurthrice]

Unsubscribe. Make a gravel channel.

[@BillJankowski]

Katherine is an awesome add. Good luck in Kanza!

[@gcn]

Cheers Bill, we can't wait!

[@jayshockey5461]

I will say it again! I LOVE the GCN show!👊🏻💪🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@coryhoffmann9847]

Katherine is a natural on camera! Would love to see more gravel tips from her on the show, as well as her progress with DK200. Perhaps as the host of the Global Gravel Network? ;)

[@gcn]

Hey Cory, stay tuned to follow Katherine do the DK!

[@antonpeterson1245]

Has Katherine been in front of the camera before? It seemed second nature to her in this video

[@gcn]

Cheers Anton

[@judosteffer]

More Katherine. More Gravel.

[@notsoproemroe]

Love hearing the Danny boy say Dirty Kanza... Caught myself googling Dirt Arkansan as if there was a race my former homeland I didn't know about... Great show as always..Keep up the great work GCN is the best! @Kathyrn hope you enjoy being stateside.

[@gcn]

Thanks E D, great to hear you enjoyed the vid!

[@TheWaxChainFanClub]

Really nice to put a name to the words, given the amount I harass GCN social media. Hiya!

[@gcn]

Haha hi, Michael, we hadn't noticed 😉

[@JonCannings]

Michael McDermott you are on the police register.

[@TheWaxChainFanClub]

Jon Cannings Outrageous.

[@twatts4436]

For lots of water, use a bladder pack. You barely notice them! Xxxx

[@grandad1982]

As a former mtber (though never very gnarly) I recently brought my first drop bar bike. You guessed it, its a gravel bike. It just strikes me as the best mix of traits for me and what I like to ride. I ride majority road but love to jump down tracks and other paths. The comfort and stability on road is perfect for me too!

[@gcn]

Awesome! It's great to see riders from both disciplines meeting in the middle!

[@DevilErnest]

Please keep us updated on Katherine’s gravel challenge!!!

[@gcn]

Of course, we can't wait!

[@SioLazer]

I'm so excited for you Katherine! Can't wait to see your video.

[@gcn]

Same here SioLazer, we can't wait!

[@OutdoorsJustin]

I'm now running tubeless on MTB, CX and finally my road. I love it.

[@RobertVE3VPL]

We don't call them ordnance survey maps here in Canada (nor the USA, I believe) but we have the equivalent. They're called topographical maps here (topos for short) and are available for the entire country. The most commonly used by rallyists, hikers, hunters, etc. here are the 1/25000 scale. They show lots of detail, houses, elevation contour lines, different kinds of roads. They are all available digitally now I think. Last time I checked there was still a small fee to acquire them but they may be free in the USA.

[@gcn]

Cheers for that Robert!

[@kevinmcgrath5126]

For long events like DK200 - I think you can store a Camel back or water bladder in a frame bag and use a retractable clip (like for a magnetic ID card) to keep the nozzle on your bars (hook it on your cable housing). Regarding a support crew - make sure they have some cleaning supplies ready to rinse off your bike and lube your chain, clothing and spare lights if needed (spare socks and gloves), extra chamois cream and a variety of snacks including some heavier real food like a burrito or a sandwich. Also, have a bonk-breaker snack: chocolate, a cold soda, pickle juice, whatever it is!

[@gcn]

Thanks Kevin, some really great advice there, Katherine will really appreciate that!

[@ColinKlupiec]

Nice job presenting Katherine. hmmm... gravel riding? Based on the footage we keep seeing I wonder if "mud" riding is a better description. I guess that's the rainy UK for you.

[@gcn]

True Colin, it could be classed as Cyclocross for most of the year! It certainly is pretty wet here most of the time, which makes dusty dry trails even more exciting in our (often too short) summer! Katherine

[@pahouseholder]

Haha. Here in the American Midwest, with so much gravel to ride it extends my outdoor riding to year-round. And, it's mostly dry.

[@sem100nome]

I wear baggy shorts on road

[@Cappy609]

I seriously don't get it. Gravel used to be called unpaved roads, which we rode regardless. This new classification is just a marketing ploy.

[@gino924]

I don’t do graver rides but i love riding my trek Crockett on my daily commute in NYC after the winter and sooo many potholes with 40 mm tires and i love it. It is very confortable on my aging bones. For my weekend rides i use my Cervelo S3 2016 with 25 mm tires.

[@gcn]

Nice stuff Gino!

[@M3T2W01f]

Gino924 some of our roads count as gravel riding.

[@PatrickArchibald]

Good luck at the Dirty Kanza 200 Katherine! Great job presenting.

[@gcn]

Cheers Patrick, we can't wait 👊

[@miporsche]

For me, the appeal of gravel-road riding is: 1. fun. Gravel riding seems more free-spirited than paved road riding. I feel bad about myself if I'm having a bad day and get dropped. On gravel, it's usually more about the fun. 2. safer. Highways are busy, devoid of bike lanes and filled with distracted drivers. An acquaintance was killed out on the highway a few years ago on his road bike. The gravel drivers are at least slower and, well, there are fewer of them. 3. Quieter. The sound of traffic is fatiguing. The sound of nature is rejuvenating! The down side to gravel: 1. remote. I took an unplanned stop due to dehydration 29 miles from home once, and had to walk for a while. I couldn't have even told someone where I was to come get me. Not fun. 2. farm dogs. I love them, but there are some that truly scare me. 3. dusty. The farm trucks maybe won't hit me from behind like I'm worried about on the highway, but they will certainly cover me in dust. 4. Wash boarding. Many of the roads can vibrate me so much I get a headache. I like both types of riding! I completed the DK100! A bit proud of myself. I'll shoot for the DK200 next year! Congratulations Katherine Moore for your excellent ride at the DK200! Geoff

[@stevewilts]

6 weeks in Belgium. Google maps for cycling: Fietspad, kassaien, unmade roads, farm tracks. I shall definitely be buying a gravel bike. Soon!

[@gcn]

Sounds amaaazing Steve, not at all jealous...

[@MTBIKEXC]

Gravel's the new road? Nah it's the new dirt - I'm starting to like it even better than mountain biking as I get older. I can't ride on narrow tires with drop bars though - just feels horrible to me - so I did this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4CbnGulp66te9k

[@KevinGreeneGaucho]

Katherine was great. Best wishes on your Dirty Kanza!

[@gcn]

Cheers Kevin, we are super excited!

[@jonathangroom5401]

water: 2L camelback backpack (= 3-4 bottles)

[@gcn]

Cheers Jonathan!

[@eloscilatore]

#torqueback I have my first set of stickers with name and flag for my bikes. How should I position them on frame to make it look really professional?

[@izi941]

I don't ride gravel...I ride XC with my CX bike :) and it's awesome - It's easy on sponsored wheels and bike...I did break 4 wheelsets (Tubular, Alu/Carb) in 3 years since I got my sponsorship for testing the stuff. Am I nuts, or would you do it too (if you got free stuff)? #torqueback

[@micdoors1425]

I've been riding gravel and road on a Specialised Diverge for about two years. To answer your question on clothing, I ride in road-like gear, i.e. tight - much to the disapproving comments from my spouse. "Unflattering" is a reoccurring theme. I have a question of my own: I noticed that despite being reasonably comfortable on my bike in terms of reach and observing no backpain (to which I'm quite sensitive), my bike rocks sideways under me as I pedal. I'm conscious of it and I try to avoid it, but I can't seem to help it. Could it be related to my seat position, and if yes, how should I change it? #Torqueback

[@AB-qm8wq]

#askgcnanything: why on earth are there advertisement breaks in training sessions WITHIN 9 out of 10 hit intervals? This is pure torture. Plese place adds in the easy pedaling sections of the training videos. Adds during hit intervals are killing my motivation. Otherwise great stuff!Eg: over under with dan or race winning intervals with si.

[@kev9879]

Can you recommend a set of wheels for a cyclocross bike. It has to have thru axles with the following measurements 9x100 and 10x135. Its for a Storck T.I.X pro G1 frame.

[@beverleygibson1394]

I ride off road all of the time and throughout the winter. I have a hybrid bike and some of the paths and bridleways I come across are shared with pedestrians, horses, children, dog walkers. Quite a few have hearing and site issues and this must be taken into consideration. Some of the gravel riders I see, do not pay attention to courtesy to these issues and why do a lot of these cyclists do not have bells on their bikes? Often I see riders going way to fast past these people and horses, near to livestock, etc. No hi viz clothing. Please, please, GCN could you do an article about these problems and try and address these issues. Great work you do, I really enjoy learning about new tips and tricks on your channel. Thank you!

[@scootosan]

Personally anything Bike what is not to Like (Road, Gravel, Trail, Snow). Mostly evolves around what type of Clothing to wear to be comfortable.

[@jhcycling3098]

What is that back ground music..? Really annoying and to me made this video unwatchable.. why need any extra noise? Hopefully won't be a feature in future shows also.. :/

[@robertboileau8681]

I have Carbon clincher wheels Bontrager aelus5 D3 rim brakes, and I am planning a trip in southern France, my question is there a problem for descending cols with those wheels? #torqueback

[@garyives1218]

granted I live in AZ, USA, on long gravel rides most of us use a CamelBak (gasp).....and the worse thing about gravel riding is losing phone signal.

[@allenreeves1562]

I am an American living in Europe that is shopping for GPS computer with turn by turn navigation that is good on multiple continents. I recently learned many have map sets loaded based on where they are sold What are the best options?

[@peterm.7497]

If you dislike cars, you like gravel. No lycra! Solo. Tires are where it's at -- all the above -- smooth or knobby, skinny or fat. .

[@Stormbringer1984y]

Hi guys. I want to know. How weather changes (rain windy etc) can affect bike gps climbing height meters count? #torqueback

[@spencerlemon2679]

You guys should do a collab with Gravel Cyclist

[@paulunnasch810]

I seriously implore you guys at GCN to check out the gravel riding in North and western Wisconsin.

[@davidlewington1674]

Good luck with dirty Kanza Katherine! In terms of drinking water I find that carrying two large water bottles within the frame triangle plus an extra litre or two (depending on the weather) in a rack or handle bar bag is good for about 100 km. I don't like wearing a pack so I ensure that the bike has the racks and/or bags for clothes, tools, spares, phone, camera, water and snacks. I find the extra weight is negligible because you have got to pace yourself on long rides anyway and for me its about finishing the ride not competing against anyone else.

[@gcn]

David Lewington thank you that's handy! Alas as a rather short rider I'm struggling with fitting even two bottles inside the frame! Definitely agree that carrying enough water is paramount though, will find a way! Katherine

[@yeochixuan9947]

Is it possible to change from shimano TX-30 shifters to an integrated headset for a road bike #torqueback

[@HenryAshman]

With lugged gravel tyres, I tend to get weirded out through the corners when I start to lean through them and the grip changes when I get more on the shoulder. Does anyone else find this or am I just weird?

[@dicksonshafthandler5002]

Henry Ashman I think that depends on the tyre and the pressure you’re running them on. I had the same kind of experience last week. Tried out the Clement X‘Plor MSO (700x40c) on my CX bike on a 30 km gravel ride and was surprised by how they can squirm a bit. I want bad by any measure and I got used to it after about 10 km. BTW, the mentioned tyre has really impressed me. Super grippy on gravel and wet forest roads and with a tight centre tread for road riding.

[@HenryAshman]

Dickson Shafthandler well I'm glad it's not just me! I've got the continental CX speed tyres on at the moment. I chose those for the winter as I mostly commute on really rubbish roads, including going past access points to some major road building works which dump mud everywhere, as well as occasional gravel roads & really light off-roading. It also probably didn't help that I got them a couple of weeks after a crash where I slipped on the aforementioned mud turning right at a junction. So had been unsteady for a while. Ironically since the weather's improved I've put the road wheels with the tyres I crashed on and find cornering way better and more predictable.

[@dicksonshafthandler5002]

Henry Ashman I can empathise. I find running tyres at low pressures disconcerting at times but that might just be my lack of experience. It is definitely a great riding experience and much less harsh.

[@johnpaton8047]

Really interested in Gravel bikes because they make awesome commuters. #torqueback

[@peter_smyth]

When training for an endurance gravel ride, how much training do you do on gravel, and how much on road?

[@BubbaFart]

#torqueback What is the black box thing mounted under the saddles or seat tubes of the riders in the Giro?

[@lorenzsiggel1515]

So why is Katherine not in the official women’s DK200 starter list?

[@wvudak06]

my bum and hands are still feeling last weekends 190k of gravel

[@minjin0259]

Two water bottles and a camelbak. You will also be able to put lots of gear in the camelbak.

[@pbt2005]

Bought my gravel bike in January, a Giant Tough Road 0 and has completely switched up my riding and I live near Haldon Hill in Devon which Katherine will know well and the network of fire, gravel, single track riding is mind blowing and I have put together 30-40 mile loops of mixed terrain. Simply. just. fun. No power meter, no clock as such, simply just riding. It will never replace my road machines, but it compliments them perfectly. But don't forget, Cannondale started life as a bike packing (aka Gravel bike) company back in 1971 !!!!

[@gcn]

Hey P, Haldon certainly is great! Even riding there over winter there are plenty of trails that are good in the wet which can be a bit rare here in the UK! Completely agree with you, hope you have a great summer on your new steed! Katherine

[@juergenzettner2523]

hi great gravel stuff. On my commuter Scott Speedster CX Bike i ride tubeless "Challenge Gravelgrinder Pro", 36mm on tubeless Ready DT Swiss R24. Alternatively sometimes i go on my "Schwalbe One TLE", 28mm, having had a simple setup by simply putting a tape in my non - tubless wheelset. They both role equaly fast, whilst the first are much more comfortable and require less attention to potholes etc. Thanks to tubeless and sealant flats are no more (cross fingers). Wouldnt ride tubed again. No flats is definitely faster :) and thats important on commutes and maybe also on gravel events, i guess.

[@gcn]

Cheers for that juergen!

[@nickhumphrey4833]

all things being equal falling off on gravel defintely hurts more than bitumen

[@craigp6602]

Katherine - I'm in Austin, TX now but grew up in Emporia. 2018 will be my 8th DK so I like to think I've seen just about everything this race can throw at you. My wife's parents still live there and every year we have a spaghetti dinner Friday night. You and your GCN crew are invited to join us this year. If you can't make it, I'll try to find you to welcome you to Kansas!

[@gcn]

Hey Craig, wow your 8th!? Excellent effort!

[@philbrubaker1678]

I've been riding gravel roads here in Vermont predominantly -went out today for a nice 30 mile jaunt, as a matter of fact. I think GCN should hop across the pond and check out an enormously cool and popular gravel fondo called The Deerfield Dirt Road Randonee (D2R2 for short. One of the hardest (and most beautiful) rides you'll ever do.

[@gcn]

Great idea Phil!

[@hanspeter8295]

#torqueback 1. Can I use a SRAM red etap or a Shimano Dura ace rear derailleur with a narrow wide 1x11 chainring? 2. Can I use a Shimano Dura ace groupset with SRAM red crank set/ chainrings? Thanks a lot!!! You really do a great job!:)

[@smalerider1727]

1. Red Etap doesn't play nice as 1x, there are some bodges to be seen that seem to work. Shimano straight up doesn't play 1x. To make 1x work proper you want clutched rear mech. Sram made Force 1x for that. Shimano you need to use their mountain bike mechs to work. Gevenalle and Wolf Tooth produce products to make this work proper.2. Cranks, cassettes, and mechanical brakes don't matter. Everything else doesn't play nice.

[@igorvmakarov]

My gravel bike has 3 sets on bottle cage mounts on the frame - the extra on is located under the down tube AND two more sets of mounts on the fork's legs, so you can have up to 5 bottles, though it mat be useful to have the bottom used for carrying spares and tools - lowering center of gravity - and use 800-900 ml bottles (e.g. Elite offers ones with cap - nice tip for dusty road). So one can easily put 3+ litres of water/fluid on a bike!

[@gcn]

Cheers Igor!

[@oscarbena7622]

How can I join you guys Network I would love to be a member at gcn

[@DigitalProclaimer]

Katherine: hmmmm .....a new GCN presenter? That’s how they worked Emma in: a few expert segments and before you know it, a full presenter. I’m not complaining, I think they brighten up the channel!

[@gcn]

We will be following Katherine as she takes on the Dirty Kanza so stay tuned!

[@jameskendrick740]

Awesome video. Thanks for answering my question! GCN rocks!

[@gcn]

James Kendrick was that intentional..? 😉

[@garryreeves5952]

GBN - Gravel Bike Network or variations on that theme?? GGBN etc

[@AlbertStichkaJohn]

You can mount a water bottle holder on the bottom of the frame between the bottom bracket and the front wheel. It will take some abuse, though, so don't make it your favorite bottle or holder.

[@gcn]

Thanks for that Albert!

[@smalerider1727]

B-rad system from wolf tooth might jam a bit more bottle room. Additionally most road cyclists suck it up an wear the camelbak like a mountain biker.

[@steveb1972]

And make sure the bottle’s got a cap on! Lol

[@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1]

I'd be apprehensive putting my frames and group sets through the gravel mill.... Stone chippings and possible falls

[@w.g.1843]

There are smooth roads left! Luxembourg is full of them! :)

[@ZOB4]

It seems like your OS map is analogous to the USGS (United States Geological Survey) maps over here. They tend to be topographical maps with different shadings for different types of terrain.

[@gcn]

Thanks for that z.browning!

[@pahouseholder]

Katherine, if you need a support crew for DK, I'd be happy to help. I've never been to the race, but I am just a few hours away in Lincoln, Nebraska-The home of the Gravel Worlds.

[@gcn]

Cheers Aaron!

[@johnsnook3498]

A really great video covering a topic slightly off the normal ones. Also a really impressive and composed presenting effort from Katherine on what is perhaps only her second appearance, you would have thought she'd been doing it for ages! Good luck to her on the Dirty Kanza.

[@gcn]

Thanks John! Need all the luck I can get.... Katherine

[@jorego]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lamse2l6hM1og7s I think it's time for some glasses Dan!

[@milco2006]

The gravel or road debate is currently pointless in the UK as following the harsh winter it is impossible to find any smooth tarmac! Like it or not round my house all riding is like gravel riding.

[@gcn]

That's a fair point! You'll be a natural at gravel then 😉

[@hishamghosheh9613]

GCN has quietly killed the WattageBazooka 🤨

[@jeremyolson2593]

Looking into getting into gravel next year. The roads here in the Black Hills aren’t very conducive to road riding. However the forest service roads and trails are abundant.

[@gcn]

Sounds awesome Jeremy, let us know if you do!

[@markgfog6492]

Hello GC crew. Does anyone know to wjat extent 1x systems are more inefficient than 2x because of the extra cog misalignment please?

[@markgfog6492]

Pardon misspellings...

[@patrickhickey7666]

I don't get it. I really want to. But it just seems silly.

[@nickw6175]

I got what is described as an endurance bike take it on road and off road forest tracks gravel etc good fun but just be prepared to change your tyres a bit more often and i do deep clean and lube every two weeks

[@gcn]

Cheers Nick, glad you enjoy it!

[@matthewgiem5669]

I want to upgrade my wheels and bike frame for cyclocross racing. I'll need to do this in two stages (years) as I don't have the money for what I want right now. can I get a pair of thru-axel disc wheels and use them on my quick release frame now and then upgrade my frame next year? #torqueback

[@Lasermanprint]

Have a great Dirty Kanza, Kathrine

[@gcn]

Cheers, stay tuned!