Give Me an Answer - If There is No God, Everything Came From Nothing.

[@alejandro08jaja]

I I am ashamed to say I was once on the side of atheist. But I found him our father in heaven. Submission is important. I gave my trust to the Lord. Letting go the control of my pride and need to be right. To something beyond

[@jasonnoble7302]

Thank you for leaving our atheist circles. We want intelligent people to represent atheism 👍 Christians can have the rest ❤

[@shydalelewis3966]

​@@jasonnoble7302interesting

[@raphaelfeneje486]

God bless you. Hope you're enjoying your walk with God?

[@raphaelfeneje486]

@@jasonnoble7302 Are atheists intelligent?😂 I don't know about that.

[@dani4157]

​@@jasonnoble7302Life got ya down ay?

[@Стевчесонце]

Nice to see civilised discussion. Cancel culture needs to see this.

[@bonnie43uk]

I think Marcie explained himself incredibly well. I hope he turns up in more video's.

[@justenhearn5179]

Eh arguing with a fool is in itself foolish.

[@IRLDOFFY]

​@@bonnie43ukherself* you can see she's a woman biologically therefore she's a she

[@elitecoder955]

The good stuff never reach us because they never make any waves 😅

[@gusvalour]

What has that got to do with the kid asking for demonstrable and research based evidence though?

[@castellanos7499]

I know it’s unlikely that Cliff will see this message But I want to express my deepest gratitude for what he does. May the Lord bless you, your family and your generations to come. I have been drawn closer to God and I have comprehended reality in a higher level. I dream to continue this work he’s been doing for years one day in my beloved Latin America and the United States. Thank you Cliff ❤

[@advil6356]

I absolutely love it when Christians are articulate and speak so intellectually. Cliffe really embodies that.

[@saab_chick007]

I join my voice to yours. Truly grateful for you Cliff

[@Scott-fy7fm]

​@@advil6356the only people who think this is intellectual are hardcore Christians, no rational intelligent person would agree this guy is being intellectual, everything he discusses comes from a foundation of pure belief with no factual knowledge

[@advil6356]

@@Scott-fy7fm Is that so? Would you mind explaining to me why that is? Because I highly doubt you've watched a full video from Cliffe.

[@Johnny424-vk6qe]

@@Scott-fy7fm Millions of years never happened. "It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried." "It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals." "How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."

[@debraflores7775]

I am gonna start taking notes on his talks to teach my son. This is good stuff!! Praise God for these men's lives.

[@2l84me8]

So you wish to brainwash your child as soon as possible? What about these arguments did you think was good?

[@Useryuic]

God Existing is about choice. Thier are 100’s of Gods and Multiple religions and faiths to believe in. You don’t have to believe in God or you can believe any style of God or Faith it’s up to you and what makes you happy in sadness and evil. Praise whoever makes you certain of what faith matter. Their are too many hypocrites and cowards in life that can belittle your faith just because their hearts are so small and their words are daggers 🗡️ for pathetic thier humanity is.

[@Johnny424-vk6qe]

@@Useryuic Facts are facts though. Millions of years never happened. "It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried." "It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals." "How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."

[@2l84me8]

@@Useryuic No. Either a god exists or one does not. We cannot will a being into existence. You’re either convinced of a proposition or you’re not.

[@Useryuic]

@@2l84me8 it’s all about choice. Their are 100 of Gods and multiple religions, also Atheists. I have worked in my career with more people that never believed in my faith or Catholic, or Christian. I worked with so many believed in Buda, Hinduism, and Greek mythology etc. Or people that are pure Atheists, that believe in nothing, except for Satin and Prostitution. It’s your choice anyway and Porn is not the world it’s a small cliche filled with Female hypocrites. That get a good Day job that get cash. Porn stars don’t have offices, or building they have a day gig, in one place per free vid. That’s how weak women are. 50,000 Sq ft bitch full time.

[@georgebradley4583]

I really admire Cliffe's patience. God bless this ministry and I pray the Holy Spirit will awaken these people so they may see Jesus' glorious truth.

[@grateful3300]

His patience is great. His logic is skewed.

[@mauricebashir2603]

Amen

[@almcdermid9669]

Yes, he's very patient while lying and misrepresenting atheism.

[@OneBoundMusic]

​@@grateful3300How is his logic skewed?

[@lancep4164]

AND I hope they find the noodly goodness of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, the true creator of the universe!

[@jamestheyounger8895]

This young person is very intelligent and has obviously struggled with these thoughts. What and amazing discussion and well thought out questions. I really enjoyed watching this.

[@ExMeroMotu9]

What intelligence? Do you mean this person uses words. Cause if you go off of the Content, this so-called "intelligent person" was nothing but nonsensical rhetorict and a bunch of emotions and reaching.

[@ExMeroMotu9]

@user-so2mj8cj1e there's so much evidence for you. You just choose not to search for it. Try doing some research before you jump to conclusions.

[@tassiomm]

@@ExMeroMotu9 what a shame that you can't recognize the intelligence in someone just because you don't agree with that person .

[@BobDobalena]

@@StatsHurtStupidPeopleman has listened evidence in 1000 videos. Can’t make something out of nothing, can’t make life from non life, order and design. The idea that the world is a cosmic lucky roll of the dice is nonsense. Who rolled the dice?

[@jessbenny7272]

That's the right way to look at it. God bless that student and I pray that the holy spirit draws him closer to the way, the truth and the life. Because if we don't have faith in God we truly have nothing. Praise be to God🙌

[@tyingapple5092]

i love how proud Cliffe looks watching his son preach to the lost and see how much a man of god he has become, and its awesome to see that the people they are preaching to are willing to have a civilized discussion with them and not just argue.

[@tituskiptoo1664]

I watched him looking at his son spitting facts

[@gingercake0907]

@@tituskiptoo1664 Give us some facts.

[@rydout]

I was rebellious most of my life. Most of me fought against being God's, that it was true - the Bible, etc.... I want/ed to just disappear when I die, wanted nothing of it. Something inside me felt wrong when I went to church. I made all the same arguments about the accuracy of the Bible (which we must maintain and stay diligent). Over the last 3 or 4 years I have been coming to God. He has been opening my heart. I am now 46 years old and I am now humbled before him. I had hubris and didn't want to humble myself. I also had darkness and I didn't want the light. Thank you God for showing me the path!

[@skarpheinnsmundsson9741]

Most people attain knowledge and "wisdom" with age but you decided to go the other way. The bible is idiotic, ignorant and evil nonsense and there is no evidence for any of the thousands of gods man has invented. And if you think that you have found some light when falling for the idiocy that is christianity and it´s monster god then you clearly have switched the meaning of light/dark in the meaning you are trying to use them.

[@Oisaiahj]

That's a journey ❤

[@sebcw1204]

i always considered it hubris to insist that humans alone of all the earth's creatures are chosen of god to bear his image. that humans alone hold morality in their hearts. i consider it hubris to write a story claiming to be inspired by god. i have great respect for christians who take jesus message of love to heart. i have more respect for people who love their neighbor without needing a heavenly reward or infernal punishment to convince them to behave that way.

[@rydout]

Who said I was scared of death and who said because of this I am trying to convince someone of something?@@StatsHurtStupidPeople

[@rydout]

Nice for you to take all things as hubris. And then the need to tell someone they are being hubristic in an anecdotal account. An account of humility at that.@204

[@chriseasterly5142]

Stuart is definitely coming into his own. He’s improving on his argument presentation.

[@chriseasterly5142]

@tandme2342 how can it be indoctrination if it’s an open conversation.

[@chriseasterly5142]

@tandme2342 Stuart stepped back from the faith for awhile and came back. He had a period of skepticism and Cliff have him his space. After reading a lot of secular material he came back to the faith. Doesn’t sound like indoctrination to me.

[@Silver77cyn]

He’s getting very good at speaking nonsense.

[@libtardslayer3048]

@@Silver77cyn If you don’t want to understand his position, that’s your own problem. Your thinking is embarrassing immature.

[@Silver77cyn]

@@libtardslayer3048 It's not that I don't want to understand, it's that his argument makes no sense. We have no reason to believe everything came from an invicible despot that never reveals itslef.

[@MattKelley]

Shoutout to Marcy (I think it was?) for great questions and dialogue. And Cliffe was awesome with his answers! 🙌❤️✝️

[@almcdermid9669]

His answers are rubbish, when he's not outright lying and committing logical fallacies.

[@OneBoundMusic]

​@@almcdermid9669What did he lie about in this video?

[@almcdermid9669]

@@OneBoundMusic No one thinks that something came from nothing. Literally no one thinks this, but he needs it to be "true" or he loses the thread. Also, "we don't yet know, therefore God," is a false dichotomy and a non sequitur. Would you like me to catalog the rest of his lies?

[@OneBoundMusic]

@@almcdermid9669 He never said "we don't know yet, therefore God," so there's no need to continue your lies either. "God," or any higher power at all, is the only reasonable conclusion (unless you have a better one?) to an uncaused first cause, as the requirements for this uncaused cause is fulfilled by the nature of an omnipotent deity. After your next reply I'll reply to your first point, so that we're not in a paragraph-war.

[@freddan6fly]

@@OneBoundMusic ""God," or any higher power at all, is the only reasonable conclusion (unless you have a better one?) to an uncaused first cause, as the requirements for this uncaused cause is fulfilled by the nature of an omnipotent deity." - Only for people without an education in physics. There is no need for an uncaused first cause, child.

[@chriphenmoono3375]

We Always enjoy these conversations watching from 🇷🇺

[@woodkey1]

I love this exchange of discourse. Both are respectful and honest in their discourse. Great session. Great learning for us all.

[@destinfarr]

Amen! Thank you for sharing the Good News, Cliff and Stuart! All glory to our Father, in the name of Jesus!

[@almcdermid9669]

The Good News is that Christianity is dying; better late than never.

[@jmcgraw6]

Great dialogue. Thank you Cliffe and Stuart for demonstrating God’s grace and love for others!

[@CrackRodent]

I love how Stuart always appears out of thin air

[@tartufo4870]

God bless Cliffe🙌🙏👏💯

[@madeasimmons9746]

Without God, life doesn't matter

[@2l84me8]

Why not? Why do we need a god to find value or joy in anything?

[@lilericinnacut]

@@2l84me8because you’re just cosmic cancer. A virus. No purpose. Murdering you isn’t wrong if you mean nothing. You’re just an accident

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

The meaning of life is the purpose you give it. For you, that purpose might be your version of “god”.

[@2l84me8]

@@Jonas-gl9ke But why call purpose a god in that case? Why not just keep it as purpose?

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

@@2l84me8 The OPs purpose in life might be to serve his version of “god”.

[@Yue4me]

beautiful mind, beautiful ton of experience being shown here, GBU, may the glory back to the Lord.

[@sidwhiting665]

Cliff's patience and love for those he speaks to is amazing! Well done brother. You truly want them to understand or at least feel well-answered instead of just run over or explained away casually with a "gotcha" point. * The pattern I notice among many of Cliff's audience is one he proposes something like "What's your better explanation to how order, design, and matter exist?" is they often change the subject. That's basically what happened here. I'm hoping that this is just them trying to make sense of holes left in their reasoning rather than refusal to examine the very real nature of the question. It's truly important that if we're going to reject God/god/the gods, we better have a good reason to other than, "The Bible has been translated so many times..." so what? If the translations are accurate (and we have every reason to believe they are), then there can be a billion translations and it's all good!

[@bonnie43uk]

I've heard Cliffe say in hundreds of video's "I do not know", and that is an accepted answer, so why can't that answer also be accepted for the question of how order and design came about? .. btw, i dont happen to believe this planet we live on has been specifically designed and ordered for mankind, far from it, the vast majority of it is incredibly hostile to mankind.

[@sidwhiting665]

@@bonnie43uk That's a fair question and I think this is why it makes sense. * When Cliff answers, "I do not know" he's being asked to explain some nuance of God's behavior or nature. For example, how is it that God can exist outside of time. A 3 dimensional mind can't really comprehend the "everywhere, all the timeness" of God. But we can trust that a being capable of rising from the dead also has the power to be everywhere all the time. So when Cliff says, "I don't know" the point is he has enough evidence to trust that proposal A is true even if he can't fully explain it. * On the other hand, the claim "I don't know" regarding how the universe exists without anyone or anything creating it is a total side step of the question. I could respect someone who says, "I don't understand every nuance of quantum physics and how gluons formed into the common sub-atomic particles we see today, but here's compelling evidence of why those particles could organize themselves into what we see today without any creator-being ordering them." Then they proceed to lay out the evidence for why their worldview is better, even if they cannot explain every facet of it to the nth-degree. * In this video, the student doesn't even bother to address Cliff at all and just changes the topic. If you're going to say God doesn't exist, then it your burden of proof to provide at least a high level theory for how and why we see a physical, well-ordered universe. Otherwise, you should at least be honest and simply say you don't know and don't care to learn about it rather than use "I don't know" as a reason to deny God's existence.

[@bonnie43uk]

@@sidwhiting665 I can't recall the kid claiming with certainty that "God doesn't exist", I think the vast majority of atheists take the position that they lack belief in a God, .. if and when such credible evidence is presented, I will adjust my thinking. I know that Christians find things like "a well ordered universe" as proof of God, but most astronomers don't see the Universe as proof of God. Why would a supreme God create a planet that has devastating earthquakes and tsunami's that kill tens of thousands of people, including little children and babies, or create mosquito's that infect children and babies with malaria?. I've yet to hear a credible answer to that question.

[@aguaAZUEL1980]

I used to not be a Christian but yes, Jesus is real and he is awesome. I don’t hear many Christians say that they hear his voice but I have and love to serve him. The first time I heard his voice was when I was at a Home Depot and he told me to talk to a lady that was working there. So i looked at this lady from a distance and saw that she was working quietly. And so I said to Jesus, “she seems fine, why do you want me to talk to her”? Suddenly the lady starts to complain out loud. And so I say, “yes Lord I will go”. So I went up to her and asked her, “hello, how are you doing today”? The first thing she says, “is that she has had a horrible migraine all morning”! As well she complains about other things. So I tell her, “please hear me out. I have never done this before but the Lord told me to speak to you”. As soon as I said this to her, she opened her eyes wide open and took a step back. I said to her “are you okay”? She replied and said, “yes, it’s just as soon as you said that my migraine went away”. I was in awe as well and I told her what Jesus put in my heart to tell her and she started to cry and said to me, thanks for telling me this, I was falling away from the Faith”. And we hugged and I left. What’s awesome about this is that this was just the beginning. Jesus is real and he wants to save as many as would come to him.

[@f7821]

Awesome

[@darlalei4303]

We are in this world, it is what we were born into. Seeing the very first sunrise would've been glorious. Thank you God, Glory to You.

[@stendaalcartography3436]

I've been binge watching askcliffe for past week now! It's such beautiful sight to see someone wrestling with God.

[@Disciple793]

This young man was trying to make an argument for an eternal universe based on the 1 law of thermodynamics. "Matter cannot be created nor can it be destroyed" only applies to the constant existing mass in the universe. In other words, the amount of energy and matter in the universe remains constant. Even Stephen Hawking before he died came to the conclusion that the universe had a beginning. So, the question remains, who or what created the universe. I agree with Cliffe. It is more reasonable to believe the universe was created by God rather than through some evolutionary process (random chance). Design points to a designer. Laws point to a law giver. Cause and effect.

[@bobnewsdog]

If there is a beginning what was there "before"?

[@2l84me8]

Evolution explains the diversity of life via selection pressure, not random chance. The Big Bang was an expansion of matter, not the origins of the cosmos itself. We have no reason to assume the universe was a creation, let alone by an unproven god. You are making an argument from personal incredulity and god of the gaps fallacy. You cannot solve a mystery by appealing to an even bigger mystery.

[@TheDivineCallingofJesusChrist]

@@bobnewsdog there can't be a before if God was always there In the beginning. It's that simple. We just can't comprehend it.

[@bobnewsdog]

@@TheDivineCallingofJesusChrist so you don't have an actual answer. Just do what your told.

[@TheDivineCallingofJesusChrist]

@@bobnewsdog I was never told to do anything pertaining to understanding how God was there in the beginning..?? God exists outside time, we also know that God is Alpha and Omega, we simply can't comprehend eternity but we do understand that it's forever and ever without end. Nothing cannot exist without God. There was never nothing in the beginning, it was always and will always be God. That simple just complicated for our carnal minds to grasp. You must understand we are talking about an All-powerful being, the literal One True God. We can't fully grasp Him.

[@recalcitrantcableguy2000]

Great young man, very smart and a breath of fresh air. The wicked better hope this young man never comes to the faith. I pray, Heavenly Father that You encounter him with experience that he cannot deny.

[@lilericinnacut]

Its really easy to grasp. When you watch a movie you can pause it stop it rewind it fast forward it and replay it over again. You’ll know everything thats gonnq happen in the movie. That doesnt mean youll change the outcome of the movie tho

[@ntkmw8058]

True

[@overshottyler]

But if god is all powerfully he should be able to change it

[@eleat]

⁠@@overshottylerThis is true, God can. But at the same time this would violate free will so God won’t.

[@lilericinnacut]

@@eleat exactly. I really don’t get what’s hard to get about this. You cant love unless you have freewill pick your poison. God respects us to make our own decisions.

[@spooky6902]

It does mean that there is one possible set of events which can happen. No character in the movie can change the movie, otherwise the watcher couldn't be sure what will happen. When the watcher is the one who sets all of the parameters for what happens in the movie, including the nature of the characters, where is the libertarian free will of the characters to do anything other than what the watcher has set in motion? Than to obey the nature given to them by the watcher?

[@billybriese2157]

I love the work he is doing here. I think to help folks understand and relate better bringing the conversation back to a parent child relationship does the work. God knows that we will go through learning experiences as He watches His children grow up. He doesn't interfere but coaches, like a good Parent. Like a Perfect Parent. As a child we hate being told what to do!!! We want nothing to do with our parents until we grow past our own desires. It's all about the relationship ❤❤

[@nathanielgallego6288]

Amen!!!!

[@dogelife7901]

Thanks for rational discourse Cliff!

[@jnr2912]

18:53, it's a little disheartening to see her raise a good point and just leave. people just want to hear what they want and are scared of what the truth will do to their perception of reality. I just thank God that he is actively giving people time to come around..

[@mgomez34]

I thought it was a him trying to be her 😮

[@edgarramos3659]

@@mgomez34vice versa. I had my doubts. But they/them is taking testosterone therefore the voice. And obvious wearing a binder. Sad.

[@jnr2912]

@@mgomez34 No I'm talking about the woman with children

[@jnr2912]

@@edgarramos3659 see my response above

[@greenapple9477]

@@edgarramos3659 What's sad is your transphobia.

[@_Snafu_]

I love how cliffe involuntarily does interpretive dance as he’s explaining the Existence of God. He truly puts everything he has into spreading the word of the Gospels.

[@brandonmarling6386]

continue to spread truth, in a world losing it.

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

How would you define “truth”?

[@brandonmarling6386]

One man was recorded thousand of years ago, claiming to be The Way, The Truth and The Life. He spoke with authority and defined truth. Not me.

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

@@brandonmarling6386 Truth is the extent to which a proposition conforms to reality as adjudicated by predictive power. How does “this man” you speak of define truth? What does it mean to, “speak with authority”?

[@Scott-fy7fm]

​@@brandonmarling6386I assume you are talking about Muhammed?

[@Johnny424-vk6qe]

@@Scott-fy7fm Nah. Muhammad was a pedophile.

[@michaeldbalance]

The student at 8:04 is talking about Leviticus chapter 18, verse 22: "You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. It is an abomination." The Hebrew word ‘yada’ means “to know”. “To know” someone in a biblical sense, and in the context of that verse, means “to have sex with them”, So, to translate Leviticus 18:22 more accurately, “A man shall not KNOW a man, like he KNOWS a woman.” that means Homosexuality is a sin. Strong's Concordance yada: to know Original Word: יָדַע Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: yada Phonetic Spelling: (yaw-dah') Definition: to know 1a3) to know (a person carnally) God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. He even made a definitive answer for marriage , which is only between a man and a woman, and stated that those who commit sexual immorality will be judged. Being Heterosexual is natural. Homosexuality is included in a list of sexually immoral sins that God doesn't condone, among many other sins, and that all sinners will have their place in the Lake of Fire. Revelation 21:8 But for the cowardly, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and sexually immoral persons, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” Hebrews 13:4 - Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous. Matthew 19:4-6 - He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” (cross referencing Genesis 2:24). 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 says that homosexuals and other sinners will not inherit the Kingdom of Heaven unless they REPENT. Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor those habitually drunk, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. Leviticus 18:22 Hebrew You must not לֹ֥א (lō) Adverb - Negative particle Strong's 3808: Not, no lie תִשְׁכַּ֖ב (ṯiš·kaḇ) Verb - Qal - Imperfect - second person masculine singular Strong's 7901: To lie down with וְאֶ֨ת־ (wə·’eṯ-) Conjunctive waw | Preposition Strong's 854: Nearness, near, with, by, at, among a man זָכָ֔ר (zā·ḵār) Noun - masculine singular Strong's 2145: Remembered, a male as with מִשְׁכְּבֵ֣י (miš·kə·ḇê) Noun - masculine plural construct Strong's 4904: Place of lying, a couch, act of lying a woman; אִשָּׁ֑ה (’iš·šāh) Noun - feminine singular Strong's 802: Woman, wife, female that הִֽוא׃ (hî) Pronoun - third person feminine singular Strong's 1931: He, self, the same, this, that, as, are [is] an abomination. תּוֹעֵבָ֖ה (tō·w·‘ê·ḇāh) Noun - feminine singular Strong's 8441: Something disgusting, an abhorrence, idolatry, an idol Homosexuality among other forms of sexual immorality are sins against God, in a long list of many other sins (murder, extortion, etc.)

[@WesleyJohnMorgan]

Love these! I would encourage your team to pick up a few Zoom H4 sound recorders and perhaps place them on little stands in a small circle to pick up the sound of those you are talking to. You could probably get perhaps two of them and perhaps pass them around too.

[@myragomez3346]

God bless you always

[@GraceAlone614]

God's power is only "limited" because He chose to limit it, in order to allow us to have a free will. God could at any time reinstate that power and take away our free will, but since God is a God of love, he doesn't do that. He truly wants us to be genuine with our faith and love towards him.

[@bonnie43uk]

If a man rapes and tortures a young girl, does she have the free will not to be raped?, would it not have been better if Jesus used his supernatural power to prevent the man from raping and torturing her? .. like a super hero. How cool would that be.

[@hellooutsiders6865]

​​@@bonnie43ukGod gave us a world with freewill and it has been corrupted with sin, with that comes the ability for good and evil. Jesus died for our sins and rose on the 3rd day to then appear to and save many. The thing is, Jesus also told us how he views time in multiple dimensions. 2 Peter 3 The Day of the Lord 3 Dear friends, this is now my second letter to you. I have written both of them as reminders to stimulate you to wholesome thinking. 2 I want you to recall the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets and the command given by our Lord and Savior through your apostles. 3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly. 8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance If the Lord sees a day as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day then we are still awaiting the Lord to return. Day 1 - 0AD-1000AD Day 2 - 1000AD-2000AD Day 3 - 2000AD-3000AD Jesus won the world but his mission isn't complete. The new heaven and earth is being built, awaiting the destruction of this earth through our Godless demise as a species and Gods intervention. Revelation 21 A New Heaven and a New Earth 21 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[b] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” 5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”

[@ABSwiftkillaz]

@@Theo_Skeptomaibruh

[@ABSwiftkillaz]

@@Theo_Skeptomai your comment is what an ai that only looks at reddit athiest posts would come up with, it’s kinda hilarious

[@ABSwiftkillaz]

@@Theo_Skeptomai you being clueless about it makes it even better

[@tastysnack1]

Loved Marcy and Cliff. Great dialogue

[@ChildofGod98765]

Jesus Im waiting for you with open arms! Please save us all from this demonic world. I still trust in you and keep faith even through hard times. As a single mom, things have been tough my husband passed years ago. Both of my sons are autistic. I’m struggling to support myself and my children but my faith in GOD is still strong! I lost my job at Forsyth hospital for declining the vaccine. I’ve been struggling since. I declined because of my health conditions lupus, and heart disease. Since losing my job I’ve been struggling to support my children. I’m now waitressing and I’m grateful but I’m not making nearly enough. Mandates are still in place so I can’t go back to any hospital. I’m tired of struggling.But God has provided for me through this storm. It hasn’t been easy. But I know all things are possible through Jesus. I will not fear. BUT I’m keeping FAITH. No one can stop what God has for us! Faith over fear. I know God will continue to provide. I LOVE YOU JESUS

[@novice_fangirl52]

i just prayed for you my sister in Christ, keep the faith and keep going, the Good Lord is with you always so never forget that. i want you to know i love you and so do your other brothers and sisters in Christ, we're all in this together and more importantly, our God who loves us so much it can be beyond our comprehension, hears our prayers and gives ear to our cries Psalm 42:2-4 My soul thirsts for God, for the living God; When shall I come and appear before God? My tears have been my food day and night, While they say to me all day long, “Where is your God?” These things I remember and I pour out my soul within me. For I used to go along with the throng and lead them in procession to the house of God, With the voice of joy and thanksgiving, a multitude keeping festival.

[@craigpillay6280]

Brilliant discussion.

[@bacontheclown2502]

Hear the word of the lord, repent, turn to the son of God, he is the Christ; Jesus.

[@jasonnoble7302]

Why does God permit animals to suffer ?

[@raphaelfeneje486]

@@jasonnoble7302 How are animals suffering?? How do you know suffering is evil??😕

[@scottm4042]

@@jasonnoble7302 Like a butterfly struggling to get out of its cocoon. God uses suffering to bring about a greater result. We sometimes don't like the suffering we face, but on the other side of it, we know we learned alot through it. Think of Joseph in the Bible. His brothers sold him in slavery, and he was falsely accused of evil and thrown in jail. But he was where he needed to be for God to use him to save many from famine. And he said later to his brothers, what you meant for evil, God meant for good. Why do animals suffer? Man's sin and rebellion against God. God promises that one day the lion will lay down with the lamb. And there will be peace, and meat-eating animalsl will eat grass instead of other animals. Yes, there is alot of animals violence, and this is part of the fall of man. The first death recorded in the Bible is that God killed an animal to cloth Adam and Eve. Jesus, however, became the Perfect Sacrificial Lamb, who died once for all, so animal sacrifices are no longer required to cover sin. Jesus entered into suffering. Why did Jesus suffer so much for us?

[@LivingWordChronicles]

@@jasonnoble7302focus on your ethnicity

[@s3v3n3]

@@jasonnoble7302 Animals have no souls, and no doubt that animals should be treated humanely and with love and respect since they were given to us by God as cattle, and companions. Humans did not just create civilization, animals played a big part in it too, but animals are not the same valued as humans.

[@friendyadvice2238]

Cliffe is absolutely excellent. He explains Christianity brilliantly. I would like to do this as well.

[@zippytwosauce6272]

No he literally doesn't, he has no answers to any questions and just input od or religion into the blanks.

[@Johnny424-vk6qe]

@@zippytwosauce6272 Millions of years never happened. "It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried." "It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals." "How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."

[@rinaa6685]

@@zippytwosauce6272Get the wax out of your ears and listen to him properly then. He explains Christianity with a lot of examples for people to easily understand, they might have nothing to do with the topic but definitely help to understand

[@zippytwosauce6272]

@@rinaa6685 he literally explains nothing, anything he cant answer he attributes to a "god"

[@rinaa6685]

@@zippytwosauce6272 because surprise surprise, this “God” you’re referring to is the answer and has all the answers we don’t have, so it’s reaosnable

[@okhaeadeleye5313]

21:17 the observable impact is every freedom you enjoy today.

[@ifyouknewbetteryoudobetter4564]

This was a good one

[@giarose6493]

Great show love you ❤God bless you 🙏🙏🙏☘️🌹

[@ritchelmacapagal7641]

Teachings about Jesus Christ should begin at an early stage of children. It's sad that many of us has a limited information about Jesus. Even I myself. Sometimes life's challenges will lead you to knowing God. I had it just last year by God's Grace. I pray to keep my faith in Him now until His second coming🙏 God bless you all especially Sir Cliffe🙏❤️

[@scottjech]

Good answers. Much logic

[@edawgonyt]

Looking Good Cliffe 👍

[@user-dv8bs7tb5c]

Oooh that ooint about survival of the fittest.... That rewlly helps me. Im daving this video.

[@philippeaustin4101]

Cliffe, God can do everything, and because he is a supernatural God we can not understand everything he does ( God can create a square circle but we will not get it ). God has no limitation! Good job and respect!👏 🙏

[@spacecoastz4026]

@jeffreyr.gilbertjr.1321 Yes and no. God can not and will not go against His nature...so correct God can not lie, sin, be unjust, etc. But yeah, God can make that squared circle.

[@spacecoastz4026]

@jeffreyr.gilbertjr.1321 He can make the irrational rational. Agree to disagree.

[@7enty7en83]

18:56 And off they run! AND 26:22 Poof! They are gone as well!!

[@3po_Orisen_Sithappen]

Amen God Bless 🙏❤

[@davidcallen5847]

Judgementalism is a sin? Hypocritical judgement is a sin. Righteous judgement is not. John 7:24 and 1 Cor. 2:15.

[@johannamagnus8699]

Pastor Chris healing stream evident, that God exist

[@jacksprrow]

colored hair means "i am not listening i am god, nothing you say will change my genius mind"

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

What is the term when you attribute the characteristics of an individual your perception of the characteristics of the collective?

[@Scott-fy7fm]

Way to perfectly illustrate how religion breeds hateful intolerance and irrational stupidity

[@greenapple9477]

Sure, judge a person's ability to use logic and reasoning just for having colored hair. That's real intelligent.

[@shofer5885]

The healing power of God is not out there its in here ❤. You could be on a battle field out there but yet enjoying the piece of God in here. Surrender and acceptance.

[@westloves]

Love you Cliffe god bless

[@sambacarlson]

Masterpiece👌🏿💯

[@bsu154]

It's unfortunate she asked a question and walked away not listening to Stuart has say. We shouldn't mix reality with the truth

[@sofidofie]

Who is Stuart ?

[@Scott-fy7fm]

That's a very weird statement, what do you mean we should not mix reality with the truth?

[@saitamaftw5385]

@@sofidofie That's Cliffe's son the other one that was talking

[@sofidofie]

@@saitamaftw5385 Thanks ☺️ I watched a bit more videos and figured it out xd

[@saitamaftw5385]

@@sofidofie ahhh ok that's good glad u got that sorted out :)

[@1andonly1975]

Its the revelation of what the obedience of Christ accomplished in and for us, that gives authority to the weapon that we employ to put every thought contrary to us, under arrest! See Rom 5:19

[@shofer5885]

We cannot find God in his creation, just like we cannot find the painter in his painting. But when you study the paintings the nature of the painter emerges and so it is with God.

[@OMGUKILLKENNY2]

Nature is brutal and horrifying to actually live in.

[@OMGUKILLKENNY2]

@@DANNdoomar You are attributing meaning to where there isn't any.

[@billparrish4385]

It's the simplest arguments that are often the most compelling, not to mention understandable. Organization in the universe points to an Organizer. Organization does not happen by accident. That, by the way, is a law of science, the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, things tend toward disorganization (entropy). "Aha! But," some will argue, "that's only for closed systems! The earth is an open system (has an influx of fresh energy)!" True. HOWEVER, that only is observable in the presence of pre-existing order, such as that provided by life. An acorn accumulates matter and energy (open system) and organizes into an oak tree eventually, but that's NOT ONLY because the seed is an open system thermodynamically, but ALSO because it contains the genetic material of the parent tree that created the acorn. Absent that genetic pattern, you could flood with energy a similar object having all the other components of an acorn all you want, and it will never organize into a tree. A pre-existing pattern is needed for the open system to organize itself into a biosphere, or even the simplest of cells. If you disagree, show one observation or experimental result to disprove it. All such experiments that tout the 'creation' of simple proteins, always without exception start with raw materials only produced by living organisms. And again, if not, show the one that starts from totally inorganic matter available from an inorganic source. It simply does not exist.

[@sebcw1204]

organization points to organization. we see many self organizing structures and systems in nature. as for the 2nd law of thermodynamics: "A simple statement of the law is that heat always flows spontaneously from hotter to colder regions of matter (or 'downhill' in terms of the temperature gradient). Another statement is: "Not all heat can be converted into work in a cyclic process." the earliest "pre-existing pattern" is physics. eventually, chemical interactions following physical laws allowed for a basic hydrophobic phospholipid bilayer to form, creating a protective layer for internal structures. RNA has been shown to be a good contender for abiogenesis. and what do you mean inorganic matter from an inorganic source? carbon is an organic matter, "Stars produce carbon through the triple-alpha process, where three alpha particles (helium nuclei) collide and fuse within a tiny fraction of a second." is that what you wanted? life didn't come from "inorganic matter", it came from organic precursors.

[@10XSeiga]

The speakers give an extensive list of christian groups risking their lives snd resources to care for others. Immediately after the kid says "wouldnt you seensome observable impact?"

[@dogelife7901]

Even if it were observable it would still be attributed to science. Because you can't measure faith in a test tube.

[@sebcw1204]

as in, observable impact outside the basic understanding that giving care leads to better outcomes. we know that giving charity makes the lives of those who receive it better. how is it proof of god to say "some people behave in an empathetic way, even risking their lives to do so". because i ASSURE you, it is not only christians who do this.

[@mariol6095]

This guy always goes in to these poses like a superhero 🤣🤣🤣

[@ricmay2837]

The ‘’who created god question….’’ Is usually a mocking spirit… which deliberately ignores an uncreated holy god ..who has always been … and created the world .. and all things ..including time …and the laws of nature and science …. Yeshua stepped in to his created world ..to be the sacrifice for our rebellion… The young lad is mocking … usually rejecting a maker with consequences… to be their own god … and do whatever suits them … God restricted us, sets clear boundaries… One of which, Men are not to do engage in ‘bum penetration’ activities, because it’s wicked …and unnatural… logically…and diseases come from it…. However people want to do what they hunger after …. Good or bad ..including crime

[@statutesofthelord]

Young man is blindly striking out, knocking over his own premises, hoping something will stick. Hopefully he will repent and grow up one day soon.

[@Scott-fy7fm]

He's asking factual questions based on scientifically proveable facts, the religious guy just responds with no sense rants that completely avoid answering the kid because there is no rational way to defend religious beliefs as rational. Religion is fine until it leads to being intolerant and attacking others as you just did.

[@statutesofthelord]

@@Scott-fy7fm Scott, your attempt to turn the obvious import of the conversation on its head has failed miserably. Then you attack religious people.

[@Johnny424-vk6qe]

@@Scott-fy7fm 4 digit, 4 dimensional extremely advanced genetic code with gigabytes in the simplest cell on Earth, didn't write itself. "According to our experimental experience only an intelligent source is capable of meeting these requirements, instructions, codes, languages, and code conventions. The fact that only one single genetic language exists indicates that one single intelligent source must have been responsible for the single genetic code of all polyphylogenetic biology. There is no other solution." -A.E. Wilder-Smith 3x phd organic chemist

[@tmurphy0919]

@@statutesofthelord Where did he attack anyone? Why do you people lie when it's right here in black and white?

[@statutesofthelord]

@@tmurphy0919tmurphy, calm down, and read Scott's comment again if you don't understand yet.

[@Zac0360]

Cliff is like my Christian older brother. I love this guy

[@mememalase9018]

Thank you ❤

[@jasonnoble7302]

Welcome ❤

[@samdavila3618]

Pray for these they/them.. 😅

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

What methodology would you use to determine your prayers had the desired effect?

[@Scott-fy7fm]

Nice way to highlight the inherent intolerance preached by Christianity

[@Johnny424-vk6qe]

@@Scott-fy7fm Intolerance over leftists peddling genital mutilation upon our little kids? You got that right.

[@dogelife7901]

It's a sad day when people dont even k ow what gender they are. Thankfully many are detransitioning and turning from the lust driven gay agenda.

[@SHADOWSCOOp2829]

My god my god is good 🙏🏼

[@nick7977]

Thank God for Cliff and Stuart for putting them in a position where they can help these kids.

[@Scott-fy7fm]

I disagree, I think it's terrible he is trying to teach young children to turn off their rational thinking and ignore scientific knowledge in favor of placing your basic belief system in the hands of scientifically ignorant people who died thousands of years ago

[@skarpheinnsmundsson9741]

How is lying to them and spewing ignorance helping?

[@nick7977]

In which way do you see them lying and spewing ignorance?

[@skarpheinnsmundsson9741]

@@nick7977 First of all christianity is mostly lies and ignorance and he doesn´t even acknowledge when the facts are rammed in his face and just continues to go in a different direction and lies. When he says that everything came from nothing, which no one says but you religious and nothing in the big bang says such a thing but that is the religious position that a magic sky fairy that came from nothing magically made everything from nothing. He is claiming things about something he can´t know and no one knows cause a stupid old book of pure horseshit says so. Lies and ignorance! Christian apologists constantly lie, cherry pick, deflect and don´t answer anything but just run in circles and continue to spew their ignorance and lies and it doesn´t matter at all how often they are corrected. Gottalieforjesus. Spewing ignorance and lies doesn´t help anyone and I would think that anyone could agree on that.

[@skarpheinnsmundsson9741]

@@nick7977 And the bible is anything but historically reliable, and has been rewritten and translated lots of times. It´s hard to mention all the lies he spews but just watch the video, it´s mostly lies and ignorance. No matter how much he squats down as to bring some more meaning to his lies, their still just lies and dishonesty. It´s actually hard to watch as there is so much bullshit but he isn´t alone and it´s the same with all apologists as they are all the same and just rehash the same old broken and long debunked ignorant bullshit. gottalieforjesus to keep the grift going and the money rolling in.

[@boltrooktwo]

The evidence available for the good which Christian principles do is huge. It just takes a mind indoctrinated not to, to blind themselves, to not listen, and to not see far ahead. Christianity asks people to work, to struggle, to adopt self-discipline while these new secular religions arise that seem to offer a utopia without work or struggle but a vacuous catering toward perfect equity that doesn’t exist and whose only real result is conflict and destruction over scarcity. It happens over and over, and you can see it if you look at the evidence.

[@2l84me8]

No, christianity insists you are poisoned and that their religion is the cure. Apologists rely on threats of enteral torture and shaming tactics to get their point across.

[@boltrooktwo]

@@2l84me8 That is a morally critical statement, do you judge people’s beliefs and prescribe retribution or scorn based on your self-made moral ideas? Are you not poisoned but instead are morally perfect so that if your behavior continued for eternity it wouldn’t cause conflict, harm, and decay? Sins are anti-human behavior that sow distrust, self-destruction, and irresponsibility, it’s the behaviors themselves that cause the suffering and calls for justice, they are specifically laid out in context by prophets and messengers.

[@2l84me8]

@@boltrooktwo No, sin is nothing more than a man made concept of fear mongering used to control superstitious primitives. Wearing mixed fabric, eating pork, and picking up sticks on a Saturday are considered sins in the bible. Do you consider those “anti human behavior”? Why doesn’t the bible consider slavery and genocide as sins? I’ll tell you exactly why: the people who made up the rules to the bible had no issue with that.

[@spooky6902]

You have bought into a caricature of "secular religions" perpetuated by media. The craziest, loudest people are the ones in the spotlight the most. There are millions of secular people who believe in self-discipline, struggle, and hard work. Including me. Perfect equity doesn't exist and utopias are unlikely. We can judge these principles on their own merit without needing to appeal to any religion. If self-discipline yields positive results, why would we need a religion to tell us when we can simply observe the results ourselves?

[@Johnny424-vk6qe]

@@2l84me8 They were escaping a global flood --> Millions of years never happened. "It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried." "It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals." "How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."

[@thomgrlisdebra]

The young man at the beginning of the video made great points to support Cliff’s premise. The intelligent mind that created order in universe must have existed in time outside of our understanding. He also mentioned most of the world believed in a some kind of god, and then mentioned how Christians live according to their beliefs, but don’t follow the teachings. (Hint: that’s why Jesus had to die!) This is Pastor Cliff’s genius of forcing these students to face their own intellectual honesty and/or dishonesty. Oh, how I love to see those young minds being challenged and I believe some of them will turn to Christ because they will see that they cannot faithfully live out their worldview. 🙏🏾

[@ronwan1408]

I don’t understand why Atheists always confuse re-translation with re-written. Re-translation does not mean re-writing the context of scripture.

[@2l84me8]

Every version of the bible was influenced by man’s hand, not an all knowing god.

[@ronwan1408]

@@2l84me8 That’s not true. If the Bible was influenced by the will of man only then it would be filled with errors. The are many books of the Bible that have been written by people who never even met each other that prophesied about something that was going to happen centuries down the road only for another one to confirm it hundreds of years later. Yes, the Bible was physically written by the hands of men but they’re not the authors.

[@cogforreal5952]

@@2l84me8but all translations match in meaning though, even with the oldest translations which is close to when it was originally written

[@2l84me8]

@@cogforreal5952 Not exactly. There are rewrites that have completely different wording from the hebrew version.

[@ronwan1408]

@@2l84me8 Different wording does not mean different contextual meaning. Please understand the difference. This is a very common mistake that Aithiests make when disputing the Bible.

[@Tofflemire5]

Love watching these guys who argue God with logic... which is good. I prefer watching the modern day prophet and apostles though. They are less apologetic.

[@MrJohnshopkins53]

There is no blindness like those who refuse to see, there is no ignorance like those who refuse to learn, the difference between ignorance and stupidity is that ignorance can learn.

[@skarpheinnsmundsson9741]

Correct, which is why those apologists really should stop spewing their nonsense as they are not only willfully ignorant but also unable/unwilling to learn.

[@skarpheinnsmundsson9741]

@JB-ku7uz Answering and pointing out idiotic nonsense isn't being close minded. And what I posted is factually correct so nothing close minded about it. The closed mindedness is squarely in your camp as you people can't and won't hear or learn the opposite viewpoint as each such video shows, and it's even worse as your side cannot even learn simple scientific facts and just misinterpret and misrepresent in order to further your narrative, dishonesty and lies is the way of the religious apologist. The facts don't care about your feelings.

[@skarpheinnsmundsson9741]

​@JB-ku7uz No you just say that because I don't agree with your position, you have most definitely not said this to anyone in the comments that just says haleluja and amen. What I have said is factually correct and if you had watched any apologist video and not been completely ignorant about everything you would know this, to go through each and every point of these word salad and gish gallop nonsense videos takes to long so it's easy to just say that these apologists are full of shit cause that is a fact! No matter how often the same thing is rammed down their throat they will turn around and spew the same Fing garbage. What point do you want to pick up that the apologist said that you agree with and have evidence for? You should be pointing your words at the apologists in such videos that make wild claims about reality and science and never ever back it up with anything, and if they do it´s like I said misinterpretation, cherry picking, dishonesty and very often just lies. Do you want to show proof of where science says that everything came from nothing?

[@skarpheinnsmundsson9741]

@JB-ku7uz Go to ca 2:05 of that video and that should be it, and now point your words at that apologist and tell him that he doesn´t have a clue about his own position or the one he thinks he is arguing against, that is to say if you know either side. And don´t be bothering those that point out such ignorance and stupidity!

[@skarpheinnsmundsson9741]

@JB-ku7uz And you then just deflect when I pointed at something as would be expected. and pointing out ignorance and stupidity makes me sound unintelligent, that is rich and quite amusing. Why don´t you answer my point and show just how unintelligent I am? 2:05 he goes on after just been handed basically a rebuttal to his point and he still didn´t get it and went on the dishonest/ignorant apologists rant that shows he knows nothing about either position and it is most certain that both have been explained to him countless times! The kid was clearly not a professional but had good points and did demolished the guy and Cliff being a professional con man may have been well spoken but he just parroted a script of ignorance and bad arguments and even though the interaction wasn´t hostile that doesn´t change that fact.

[@RobertSmith-gx3mi]

Creatio ex nihlo Is a theist belief. Not only Do Christians believe everything came from nothing, they believe a character from a book spoke everything into existence. I'd like to hear the explanation On how that was done that was so convincing To the folks that believe it. Oh and the universe starting its initial expansion was not the universe being created.It was something that existed in one state changing into another state.

[@templarroystonofvasey]

Love how animated you are. Do you have an upload discussing Free Will, sin, accountability and God etc... somewhere?

[@adamdesimone2658]

Atheist: "The Bible is translated inaccurately over time." Also atheist: Can't give one valid example. Just assumes the Bible is inaccurate because that's the facts to a common skeptic.

[@spacecoastz4026]

They run from the truth. Atheism and LGTB are deep holes for the soul.

[@2l84me8]

There’s several different translations and versions of the bible and over 1,000 different sects of christianity that all can’t agree on anything.

[@jasonallred244]

Notice people try to denounce scripture to justify thier sin they know is wrong? The devil is strong but God is stronger. God gives ALL a chance to except him or reject him. The one thing in the Bible that states All people of all nations of the whole world will know the name of Jesus and be given the free will to accept, repent and take God into the heart. This is true because even people interviewed in the most isolated places on the planet were asked have they heard the name Jesus and know of him and they say yes. All the proof that is needed. I would rather follow and believe in God and Jesus who are good and just and forgiving than take the chance of going alone and face the hell in the afterlife. This is why atheists are such depressed, suicide rates strongly increase, feeling deeply alone as they have no higher power to believe in and pray to. They feel they are just flesh and bone and wander the earth alone with no one above them. These preachers are doing God's will to tell all to hear the name of Jesus so they can never say they were not told in the time of judgement. Save one in thousands is better than not have one in thousands to save.

[@2l84me8]

@@jasonallred244 People reject your bible because there’s no proof to it. That’s why religious apologists are panicking like crazy to regain the followers that common sense has taken away from them. Where are your sources that’s atheists are suicidal and depressed? If you can’t back up your ridiculous claims with evidence, you have no business lying about them. Belief is not a conscious choice we make. Either we’re convinced of a proposition or we’re not. We have absolutely no control over this at all.

[@jasonallred244]

@@2l84me8 You have now been told the word of God. You can no longer say you have not and you have the free will to accept or reject. I am saying a prayer for you and all who are in the middle. No need to go back and forth. Ball is in your court. Make your own decision, I have done my part. Plus, i notice you are trolling me as you have a trend of replying to other topics I have posted to. That is fine. Gives me one more chance to give you a chance of accepting God and release the anger you have for the good.

[@Snow248.]

12:02 the irony in this statement precedes my unfathomable astonishment for one’s own lack of self-awareness.

[@LOWKEYDANGER]

No shortage of freaks in this world

[@JaydenA007]

Not freaks. Lost people who we have the job of to share the good news to

[@2l84me8]

They hang out in the church and wear robes.

[@2l84me8]

@@JaydenA007People aren’t lost for rejecting an unproven fairytale such as the bible.

[@robmc120]

​@@2l84me8 The only triune God of the: 1)supernaturally prophetic fulfilled in reality (Romans 1:26-32/2 Timothy 4:3/Matthew 24:6/1 Corinthians 1:18) 2)historically verified (archaeologically & anthropologically by Christians & non-Christians w/enemy/early/multiple attestation, internal consistency, embarrassing reports, etc.) 3)transcendentally/objectively moral (Exodus 20/Matthew 22:37-40) Holy Bible has been verified, you would do well to look into it instead of prophetically fulfilling Romans 1:18 May the triune, infallible, omniscient God bless you with faith in Him, not fallible man’s limited knowledge of theories.

[@JaydenA007]

@@2l84me8 it's not our job to convince or convert that's god's role we are simply the sower of the seeds God is the one that can make it grow.

[@NCC-gk6eo]

A discussion. How refreshing.

[@giarose6493]

Great talk ❤

[@mikem1122]

I always love hearing the timelessness of God explained. It's such a difficult concept to grasp, but so awesome and mind-blowing when you understand it.

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

Given existence is necessarily temporal, how can something exist outside of time?

[@Johnny424-vk6qe]

@@Jonas-gl9ke Unless you are light. At the speed of light, there is no passage of time.

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

@@Johnny424-vk6qe Do physicists believe that light, travelling in a vacuum, exists outside of time?

[@Johnny424-vk6qe]

@@Jonas-gl9ke No idea "relative to people who aren't in motion, you are traveling just a bit slower through time. This effect has been confirmed by atomic clocks placed in airplanes as well as orbiting satellites and compared to those on the ground."

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

@@Johnny424-vk6qe Existence is necessarily temporal and so any attempted explanation of “God’s timelessness” really appears to be a post hoc rationalization that needs to be demonstrated. You seem to have likened “God’s timelessness” to light but I think it’s clear that time does not stop whenever light travels. If God is light, then surely this God can’t be omnipresent given light can only travel at 3x10^8 m/s. It’s also unfortunate that too much exposure to God increases the risk of melanoma.

[@TainoMoya]

Thank you for new content also love Marcie being so respectful and also your respectful way of answering Good stuff all around ❤

[@marcu9111]

Jesus is Lord!

[@nick7977]

Amen

[@Scott-fy7fm]

# TeamDionysus

[@goatpulse2960]

@@Theo_Skeptomaiyes

[@Johnny424-vk6qe]

@@Theo_Skeptomai Do you believe in half-breed ape men? Millions of years never happened. "It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried." "It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals." "How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."

[@mauricebashir2603]

Praise the Lord for his mercy upon all of us, thank you Jesus for these people who are sharing the word of God very intelectualy..

[@aidenhutto5969]

There has to be a uncaused first cause. There is either the universe is eternal or God it eternal. Only thing is we have great evidence to suggest the universe isent eternal.

[@2l84me8]

You have absolutely no evidence this god of yours exists nor created anything. How do you know the components of the universe weren’t always eternal?

[@cameronreed1021]

@@2l84me8 Evidence suggests that the Universe is expanding at a drastic rate. Any expansion would suggests a time when all the particles in the world were once met together. However, to reason with that is that it is illogical to claim that all the matter together into a single particle would randomly explode in the immense amount of energy that was released into an infinite amount of particles. To continue, there is no evidence that there was a universe previously that compacted into a single particle. Something would have needed to come out of nothing, which in of itself is a irrational thought.

[@2l84me8]

@@cameronreed1021 What is a nothing? Also, not all matter was present before the expansion.

[@cameronreed1021]

@@2l84me8 Nothing is the lack of anything, and to say that not all matter was present before expansion literally means some material came out of nothing. Matter can neither be created or destroyed. To say that new matter came from the expansion would disagree with a scientific principle.

[@2l84me8]

@@cameronreed1021 No, it means matter in some form is eternal. No need to shoehorn a god hypothesis. That would be unscientific.

[@tonussi]

21:50 good question!

[@robynhouse8166]

They are basically arguing theistic determinism aka Calvinism/Augustiniansim. What's interesting is that the atheist brings up God's knowledge of the future as a proof that God can't allow for free will and still be good- that's exactly how Calvinsts argue for Calvinism.

[@LuisEstrada-ec5hp]

Cliff blew my mind with that ! The father will always be one step ahead ! ✅

[@thorwilkinson2565]

Man’s free will has nothing to do with GOD’s knowledge of what each of us will do

[@Disciple793]

Amen! A simple analogy is to think of a football game that will be played a week from today. God already knows the outcome (who wins) right now. But next week the players will still take the field and play. God allows the players to exercise their own free will and play the game. Yet because God is outside of time, He knows what the outcome will be before the game begins.

[@freshliving4199]

Do you believe you have free will? Or will?

[@2l84me8]

That doesn’t make sense. If your god’s will is absolute and everything happens accordance to said plan, then there is no free will. Just characters acting out their prewritten roles.

[@2l84me8]

@@Disciple793How do you know? What does “outside time” mean exactly?

[@dexio8601]

It means operating in a higher dimension, kind of like you being stuck in 2D land trying the understand the guy in 3d.

[@workinprogress9613]

He always minimizes Hell. Hell is God actively pouring out his wrath on sinners for all of eternity!

[@NathanDJackson]

Hell is the consequence of improper use of our free will; separation from God. “Seek and ye shall find”.

[@workinprogress9613]

@@NathanDJackson Hell is God's pouring out his wrath for all of eternity as punishment for sinning against a Holy Holy Holy God!

[@Gooner-1971]

The patience of a saint right there. I don’t think I could listen to all of that unbelief for that long.

[@Scott-fy7fm]

You mean scientific facts? Why would you be intolerant of someone who simply believes differently than you, isn't that again at the very basic concepts your religion is founded on?

[@vman9347]

@@Scott-fy7fmis god tolerant?

[@skatermom8259]

@@vman9347This is an amazing question and one I have been wresting with. I’m a believer in Christ, and I see now from reading Gods word, that God is loving but not tolerant of sin. He is just, and He is perfect, so it makes perfect sense that He is not tolerant of sin and evil.

[@Johnny424-vk6qe]

@@skatermom8259 A global flood says it all. Millions of years never happened. "It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried." "It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals." "How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."

[@grateful3300]

⁠@@skatermom8259but if he created sin and evil (he is the creator right?) why would he not be tolerant of it?

[@mikerukavina4551]

Proud Papa.

[@AprilAnnette]

Thank you for speaking the Truth without getting distracted.

[@jasonnoble7302]

Nah… Christianity is not truth

[@AprilAnnette]

@jasonnoble7302 Jesus is! He is The Way, The Truth (where all truth is based from) and The Light. So what do you base your claim on?😆

[@jasonnoble7302]

@@AprilAnnette The universal structure is the foundation for truth The universal structure reveals objective values and truths by definition The universal structure reveals its always wrong to kill children Is it always wrong to kill children by your foundation ?

[@Johnny424-vk6qe]

@@jasonnoble7302 Millions of years never happened. "It’s a pattern in the fossil record that footprints are found in strata millions of years before foot bones, and evolutionists never explain how the critter survived millions of years after leaving its footprints until it finally got buried." "It was first presented in detail in a paper by Adventist Leonard Brand and a co-author J. Florence in 1982. The evolutionists have never answered this challenge in the 38 years since. The pattern is the same for reptiles, amphibians, dinosaurs, birds, and mammals." "How many years are we talking about? 10 million between trilobite tracks and trilobite fossils; 35 million between amphibian tracks and amphibian fossils; and 10 million between dinosaur tracks and dinosaur fossils. That is a curious pattern indeed."

[@grateful3300]

@@AprilAnnettethose kids were excellent. Great that you’re sticking up for them.

[@herbertnongkynrih6758]

Cliffe's patience is really something else

[@bugen5]

It's very, very sad that with all these videos posted, these kids gather not to hear about the gosple or are genuinely curious about God or Jesus, but they are actively trying to refute with all their might that God doesnt exist.

[@Enaresbclimber]

because God wants you to live according to his will and not your own. 😥

[@PeaceMakerChad]

Remember god said he is not of this world but he has overcome it! To cliffs point of god being eternal

[@cc3775]

Where did Yahweh say that?

[@PeaceMakerChad]

John 16 33.

[@cc3775]

@@PeaceMakerChad that’s Jesus speaking

[@PeaceMakerChad]

@@cc3775 yea you're right brotha.

[@danielvictor5181]

With God: Honest Hope ❤ Without God: Honest Despair 😖 It’s that simple

[@incensious7845]

im crying that "please do" when she said she didn't finish is the funniest thing I've heard all day

[@lilianvillalta8077]

JESUS is LORD !!! GOD!!! JOHN 1:1

[@cc3775]

Wrong, do you even know that LORD is used for Yahweh? Jesus is not Yahweh.