Give Me an Answer - Jesus Could have Blasted His Enemies Into Oblivion...That Was Then!

[@atajoseph]

Professing themselves to be wise they became fools.

[@colinmatts]

Nobody professes themselves to be wise. It's all about the evidence

[@atajoseph]

@@colinmatts what evidence?

[@watchandjewelryloft4713]

@@colinmatts I've asked for evidence several times, and I've been called all sorts of insults. It's truly hilarious coming from the people who claim to have a monopoly on morals, are showing "true love," etc. 🤣😂

[@colinmatts]

@@twchannel7503 You are confusing the origin of life with the diversity of life.

[@glasspreacher8436]

@@colinmatts Apart from God you have no grounding for truth, morals, or the laws of logic. Trying to explain origin, meaning, morality, and destiny apart from God reduces a person to absurdity or foolishness. Romans 118For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,g in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

[@thenewnationpodcast]

This kid is a great example of people who love to hear themselves talk

[@SR-ry6hs]

Lol, I think you mean Cliff, but I understand as his logic is so child like. ;)

[@jessebryant9233]

@@SR-ry6hs For example? Or maybe an LOL is all you've really got for us?

[@SELAHPAUSE]

@@jessebryant9233 he is still searching

[@jessebryant9233]

@@SELAHPAUSE I hope so! 🙏

[@lightworker4512]

The kid is a critical thinker and very intelligent. We need more critical thinkers.

[@ClintonHester88]

I am so grateful for this ministry

[@Jhart44]

Me too :)

[@bairdbananas4638]

Same! I’ve learned so much

[@judahthejesusfreak241]

Amen and amen

[@ClintonHester88]

@@judahthejesusfreak241 I subbed to your channel bro 👊🏼

[@judahthejesusfreak241]

@@ClintonHester88 Aw thanks dude 🔥

[@PaulRizzo]

That first guy was in waaaaayyyy over his head. Cliffe stumped him several times and he just kept going. Repeating a mistake doesn’t eventually make it correct. If you’re wrong you’re wrong. Oh, but that’s just like evolution isn’t it? 🙄🤦‍♂️😂

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Evolution is change.

[@jacobmunoz7895]

@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 cliffe answered it spot on. It just went over your head, like the young man. Objective morality comes from a higher source(God) than humans. So whether 19 out of 20 believe that murder is good, it’s always objectively wrong. Society nor the majority determine objective morality. It’s written in stone and cannot be removed. It’s not that hard to get unless you really just don’t want to see it.

[@nateclsu5250]

@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 So I'm a mess because I messed up one sentence in my entire argument to you? ... which by the way has blown your argument out of the water because you chosen to ignore SEVERAL of my arguments and all of your responses have been " you provide no evidence" yet this whole time you have only told me why I am wrong and not why your right. Your literally so arrogant that I don't even want ot bother with you anymore. Your clearly going to forever have a biased and burning passion to be against Christianity so there is no point in debating with you.

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 wow! The puddle argument here in the wild. Priceless. So if the puddle was a different shape, rape would be awesome? You really need to think and stop with the naturalist dogma.

[@BlackDragon777-DR]

@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 At the end of the day, when you boil both arguments down: Theists: Life always comes from life. Law and order, are always given by a governor. Creation, is always a byproduct from a creator. These are always true, repeatable, and constant: 10 times out of 10, no matter what. So if one were to be intellectually consistent and honest - from the products of what we can physically see, observe and test: it's more rational to come to the conclusion that a higher being of life brought all of this into creation with intent. Atheists: There is no purpose in life, all of what we can see and observe is a byproduct from a complete accident, a rock can give birth to a bird because life can come from non life, law and order is never created nor given, and there is no such thing as an absolute truth, it's just subjective - even though it's not, but at the same time it is. We hold all of this to be true in the name of science, even though none of these theories have ever been observed, tested nor proven. So I will be intellectually dishonest, and come to the conclusion that these origin theories on the existence of life makes the most logical and rational sense from what I can't see and can't test, which doesn't hold these theories to be scientifically factual anymore. This is a more rational way of thinking...

[@tonyputman3398]

When Cliffe says, "Good", you know another great rebuke is coming! God bless y'all!

[@ebzdawka5619]

I need more!!!!! I can’t survive on 1 Cliffe video a week!!! As always, and amazing job!

[@luisgregoriojr762]

Same!!! It strengthens our faith and believes in Jesus Christ twice fold!!

[@jebidyah]

he has like hundreds of old videos on the channel to watch :)

[@alanvergara9409]

The gentleman was referencing the Miller Urey experiment in which amino acids were created through an experiment that allegedly had the same environment as pre life Earth. I remember watching the experiment and being amazed so I had to refresh on my biology. Amino acids don't do anything with out RNA or mRNA. Neither of which were created in the experiment. We got the blocks, but not the blue prints nor the architect.

[@mbgrafix]

The brilliant James Tour explains the incredible complexity of a single cell... kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYGoeWmPhNCAZs0

[@cameroneagle4370]

not to mention the freaking human life performing the experiment

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@Our Savior It seems you haven't a clue as to the meaning of 'creation'.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

Are you suggesting that the fact RNA or DNA were not produced within the environment of a laboratory, is somehow a demonstration that a god created life?

[@mr.s7522]

@@theoskeptomai2535 I think he's suggesting the irony that once scientists recreate life in the lab, they would have created life - in their efforts to prove that life came about by chance

[@jpesicka492]

3:20 I saw this woman talking to another man about Christ and was brought to tears on a different channel. I wonder if this was before or after this I’ll have to look for it.

[@LarryRuffin-vy7hx]

Me and my cousin ran to the TV as soon as we saw u uploaded. Thanks cliffe 🕺🏾

[@DiscoverJesus]

You legend Larry

[@khampel9589]

Same here.. I'm just trying to watch all the uploaded video because it's not like the other videos that cannot be reliable after some time. It's reliable in the past, present and future

[@matthewscheidt7754]

Awesome display of patience.

[@michaelpromise1672]

I held my head the whole time that young man was talking 👀. I couldn’t believe he believes the things he believe. Heavenly Father may your grace abound because we Need it and we NEED YOU…

[@DRayL_]

Can you give "summed up" examples of "the things he believes" that you found questionable?

[@theoskeptomai2535]

Correct. You simply can't believe what rational people hold to be true. You have abdicated your rationality for mythology. So I hope you have fun splashing around in the deep end of your pool of delusion.

[@boltrooktwo]

He kept appealing to objective morality but he just said it was “what was best for the most people”, but then contradicted himself that it didn’t exist. Morality over time changed because people were farther from objective morality or closer, not that objective morality doesn’t exist.

[@swiftblackninja]

Exactly, I’m surprised he didn’t catch his own contradiction

[@gitzah]

Indeed, seems like university teaches them to practice cognitive dissonance instead of pursuing real truth. It's all politics in the end.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

There is no objective morality. Our species decides what is moral in group decisions.

[@boltrooktwo]

@@JamesRichardWiley Should we believe that because you are the greatest or the people who taught you that to you are the greatest? You didn’t provide hard evidence so that is the only thing you could be appealing to for your claim.

[@boltrooktwo]

@@gitzah Seems like they teach them valueless propositions and blind faith dogma, in public universities that should be a violation of the separation of church and state, there shouldn’t be an exception to it because they claim they are so advanced as to be beyond religion, their principles are certainly religious in nature and practice.

[@carlosespino0227]

Thanks cliff listening to you preaching makes me feel so alive

[@BR3NZ1]

What Cliffe said was simple to understand tbh. We thank God

[@rabiddogwitaglock9803]

Boooooooo

[@Kleithap]

Good to see that Cliffe is spreading the Gospel to trees as well!

[@mbgrafix]

_And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the _*_whole_*_ creation._ *- Mark 16:15* 😉

[@SELAHPAUSE]

Unbeknownst to you sir Trees in the Bible is referred to as people

[@thetruthtrumpsallliesfromt4399]

@@SELAHPAUSE Amen. Mark 8 A Blind Man Healed at Bethsaida 22And he cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto him, and besought him to touch him. 23And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought. 24And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking. 25After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly. 26And he sent him away to his house, saying, Neither go into the town, nor tell it to any in the town.

[@upsidedownkingdom5263]

Haha 😂

[@thetruthtrumpsallliesfromt4399]

@@upsidedownkingdom5263 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@johnthomas2877]

The student at 23:40 is so incredibly stubborn and thick in the head it's amazing.

[@ryan.3059]

This man is amazingly intelligent, like father like son lol Thank you Lord for having Cliffe on our side 🙏 🙌

[@phil-f716]

This poor kid

[@ChicagoLights]

The guy kept saying “what’s best for society” but again where is he grabbing this idea that human lives have value?

[@SR-ry6hs]

Because of the finite time we actually KNOW we have, and the experiences that affect our lives, and those around us. Is life only meaningful if it goes on forever? What a sad way to live.

[@Jhart44]

@@SR-ry6hs “because of the finite time we actually know we have”. If that’s why human lives have value(which was the question) then I feel so very sorry for you.

[@troydavidson3585]

My head explodes listening to these "skulls full of mush"--Rush Limbaugh quote

[@billyholly]

Thank you for another clip, Cliffe and supporters!!! I would like a discussion to tie in evolution and morality. How did a "morality gene" develop from nothing? I know people like to claim what's best for society but long before there were communities acting together, people did what was best for them. The transition from being totally focused on "self" can't randomly give way to "what's best for society." I just don't see that ever happening and then being adopted by societies around the globe.

[@billyholly]

@Kamesha Winn It makes sense, right?

[@joshjeggs]

This is a good point @billy. I think the disconnect is that "evolutionary" reasons for things are simply reasons why said thing is beneficial and is in no way connected to history, yet it is posited as a historical fact , ironically, in a scientific context

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

Very well stated. Everything that evolves MUST first exist.

[@upsidedownkingdom5263]

@@ChrisTheKing172 I agree that people likely needed other people right from the start in order to survive. But I think the definition for objective has been skewed by the student in the video and may be influencing your phrase about objective morality (correct me if I'm wrong though). The student seemed to be treating the word "objective" as though it means that which has the consensus. But that is not the definition of objective. EDIT: Actually I think I might be wrong about your phrase- rather, are you saying, humans invented a set of morals that they then taught amongst themselves as objective morality? I'm confusing myself now haha

[@upsidedownkingdom5263]

@@ChrisTheKing172 Ah yes, thanks for that clarification. It would make sense that ancient people would develop general rules of morality for their group's survival. Of course, it often didn't apply to other competing or enemy groups. Now that the internet is somewhat making us more interdependent in a global sense, we are moving closer to being one group or tribe, so we have more compassion on those outside our group perhaps. But general rules for a group are subjective. Whereas objective morality is based on the idea there are truths regarding right or wrong that are independent of our opinions whether they are unanimous or not. Regarding absolute morals: Where Jesus told the Pharisees off for insisting he not heal on the Sabbath, Jesus was using absolute moral principle/s to apply the moral laws governing his group (Israel) according to context, whereas the Pharisees were applying moral law as though it were absolute. I believe God's absolute objective principles of right and wrong should govern any moral law. However, I understand the need to disregard context in cases where a person or group is incapable of understanding context. Such a parent's rule for their small child not to go near the road (regardless of cars being on the road at the time).

[@yomaramspahn2567]

That first guy... Cliff, you have so much patience I would’ve just shook hands and said “next” 😅

[@dogelife7901]

Incredible teaching cliff thanks for uploading these

[@luisangelpacheco6681]

Oh my goodness, I wanted to scream through my phone! Cliff! Ask him where is he getting the idea of what is most good for society should be pursued? Why should it be pursued? Why should the human race be preserved? Who says it's good?

[@JesusisGodandKingofkimgs]

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[@D-1-V-A]

I know Atheists like this... He was not gonna be at all swayed. Maybe it will happen someday. Satan be blinding people & it's sad & it's crazy! But now when all these Die-Hard Atheist die and they are standing before JESUS CHRIST, they'll horribly understand everything! 😧😧😧😧😧😧😧😧

[@pinoychristianpilgrim]

Always eager to watch your new videos. Fun to watch the interaction with the students. God bless to your ministry!

[@dowrecords3731]

Cliffe HAD TIME this day!🤣🤣 love how he was NOT having it!

[@user-tv8gc9hv3j]

Keep it up Paul of the 21st century :)

[@SELAHPAUSE]

Yeah Cliff is standing on mars hill

[@mosesoh571]

Sad how they claim to know, but can’t cite evidentiary support for any of the claims that they make.

[@taylor-bh8re]

Boy, cliff is red hot and swinging hard in this one. This man is so well prepared he has a well informed and educated answer for everything these "great thinkers" throw at him.

[@zealot777]

Amazing video and amazing witness. Cliffe went toe to toe with the first guy and I can say...well done sir. His patience prevailed.

[@jamesbullo]

The first guy was coherent and respectful. Cliffe was neither in his argument. Cliffe demands the proof of a creative mechanism in evolution but requires no proof for his own position.

[@zealot777]

@@jamesbullo Cliffe uses "evidence" as the standard, not proof. He's stated many times you can't prove, only bring up evidence for your argument(s).

[@larzman651]

SALVATION IS ONLY IN JESUS CHRIST 🙌 John 14:6 kjv

[@theoskeptomai2535]

How did you come to conclude that this Jesus ever existed?

[@curiousgeorge555]

​@@theoskeptomai2535 A pesky little thing called history.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@curiousgeorge555 How does history demonstrate the existence of this Jesus?

[@davidlegkodukh6969]

@@theoskeptomai2535 He died on a cross and was resurrected from death. The Bible proves this through many eyewitnesses. Scholars and many Christians alike have faith and believe in the considerable evidence of the Bible's history; Please do your research with proper care. 💯

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@davidlegkodukh6969 Will you agree that a _firsthand eyewitness account_ is one in which the author of such claim is 1) known; 2) that the author states unequivocally that he or she personally witnessed the events in question (in this case the supposed resurrection of this Jesus), 3) attests that their account is a valid, accurate, and authentic account of such events? Yes or no.

[@tonysatie2291]

Thank you for your patience .

[@jessebryant9233]

If there is one thing we can all take away from this, it is Cliffe's patience.

[@codeblood2000]

Cliff did a great job pushing the issue

[@francishora7453]

The guy must have watched Frankenstein

[@kacperas1806]

The error in thinking of that men in black shirt is that he thinks that objective morals comes from human (that why he always says that 100% peapole must agree on morality) but they come from God.

[@dogelife7901]

Right and wrong is written on our hearts. Unfortunately entire civilizations choose to ignore it and make their own rights and wrongs.

[@WavyFBaby]

In considering the existence of objective morality, it’s important to distinguish between moral facts and moral opinions. While people may disagree on specific moral issues, such as the permissibility of certain actions or the importance of certain values, this disagreement does not necessarily undermine the possibility of objective moral truths. One way to argue for objective morality is to appeal to the concept of moral realism, which posits that moral facts exist independently of human beliefs and perceptions. According to moral realism, certain actions are objectively right or wrong, regardless of whether people recognize or agree on these truths. Another approach is to argue for a foundational moral principle or framework that serves as the basis for objective moral truths. For example, some ethical theories, such as deontology or utilitarianism, propose principles or criteria for determining the rightness or wrongness of actions that are meant to be universally applicable. It’s also worth noting that the existence of objective morality does not necessarily imply that everyone would always agree on moral issues. Just as people may disagree on scientific facts despite the existence of objective scientific truths, moral disagreements can exist even if there are objective moral truths. In summary, while the existence of differing moral beliefs among people may complicate the idea of objective morality, it does not definitively rule out its existence. The debate over objective versus subjective morality remains a complex and nuanced issue in philosophy and ethics.

[@nsdkido]

Amen. What a blessing this video is.

[@lukaszgalka9614]

Byutfull diskusjons👍. Lukasz Galka. Blessing from Poland.

[@obafunmiezekiel2135]

The past, present,future of explaining the 10 commandments was what they needed because the young man kept going round in circles. The last explanation eventually sunk deep,I'm sure.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Here are the first three demands from your barbaric, bloodthirsty, self centered god invented and worshiped by warring Hebrew tribes living in the Sinai Desert. 1. I am the Lord your God you shall not have other competing gods before me. 2. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain. 3. Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day. Summary: All the other rival gods are false and you shall not worship them says the Hebrew priests to the people.

[@jherandsoleil6335]

@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 Lol no one is arguing that people won't have differing opinions or subjective ones. He's arguing that no matter what a "majority/society" says, there are a few objective morals in this world. Now, you can go ahead and argue in circles and say "well, his objective claim is subjective to him" then the opposing can say "well, you're claim that my claim is subjective is also an objective claim"

[@jherandsoleil6335]

@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 I mean, all those you stated are still encompassed within the 10 commandments. Not so sure what you’re trying to get at here “You guys” lol it’s a ridicule on both sides hence why I said it’s circular.. meaning both parties are in the wrong when you argue that way and never get anywhere lol.. but if you only want to see one side being wrong, then sure.

[@jherandsoleil6335]

@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 I mean, a lot fall into what adultery is. Now, for homosexuality, sure, that’s another discussion yes there are people who still kill and rape. Okay, since it’s not 100% that people don’t rape, are you saying that there are times rape is morally correct

[@JoshThomas880]

@@JamesRichardWiley There’s no point in trying to reason with you but to anyone who reads your comment. Every command from God is not a just a random command given for control. There is a reason behind the rule and given the context it would be easy to understand. 1 Command, having no other gods before him. Why? Because the Yahweh of the OT, had guided them out of Egypt to be set apart from the false worship and pagan practices of that culture which were destroying human flourishing thriving. Those other gods would lead to continue living corruptly 2. Lord’s name in vain, as a child is very disrespectful to tarnish your parents name. God is the same way, no one likes to be disrespected, why would God not deserve or demand respect. 3. Sabbath and a day of rest also to serve as a day to remember what God did for them. True Summary: God created the world, and humans in their rebellious free will chose to commit evil crimes against one another and go against God’s intention. In his patience, he lead an oppressed group of people in slavery out of their oppression to shape into his intended good creation. Rules were made to help them grow and show the audience reading how God’s commands are for your own good. He was shaping a nation that was helpless. Deeper meaning, the rules were meant to be broken. To show how good people aren’t. Only then would they realize and humble themselves before God. And the nation of Israel did that, they rebelled against God broke his rules, what ended up happening. They became oppressed, full of pride eventually under the rule of the Roman Empire. God being a humbled himself to the form of human in Jesus revealing how the hearts of men are wicked and the intention behind the rules. Not only that, he gives a way out by dying on the cross, and rising from the dead overcoming this world of evil to come back and eventually judge and bind evil forever.

[@Lillianachimp]

That kid is totally lost, he's completely proving Cliffs point! 😆 🤣

[@atajoseph]

Its beyond sickening when people submit to such stupidity. Like when they argue for relative truth.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

I agree Cliffe can't prove his case for Jesus and Jesus won't offer to help.

[@atajoseph]

@@JamesRichardWiley fools sounds foolish alike.

[@atajoseph]

@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 i see you're lacking friends, go find someone else to play with.

[@bartlemmons1704]

I'm an Episcopalian and I agree with u guys completely

[@everettwoods8871]

Jesus is Love ❤️

[@isaachslvagi2368]

Thank you cliff

[@JesusisGodandKingofkimgs]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5jTpXuAa8esaNE

[@taylor-bh8re]

Cliff does a very good job of reasoning with people, and I think he would have even more breakthrough with people if, after he explains creationism and then objective morality and who it comes from, he then moved the conversation to a more personal area, and use the ray comfort method and help them understand that they are subconsciously warring against the Lord because they don't want to give up their decision-making privileges.

[@tandrews4030]

Mr. Cliff you and Dr. Frank Turek are geniuses

[@curiousgeorge555]

Cliffe Rocks!

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Believing extraordinary events occurred outside Nature is easy. Proving to others they occurred - not so much.

[@curiousgeorge555]

@@JamesRichardWiley Proof only exists in mathematics.

[@IzzyMann]

this kid doesn't know what he thinks he knows lol i love it, he is awe struck and without a logical way of reasoning with cliff! amazing stuff.

[@monicatorres4965]

I am a biologist and I learned about how much we were not able to explain about origin of life and a lot had to do with order at the molecular level. I also learned about evolution... science was not ideology/identity ..it was just science.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

The Cosmos is eternal energy that is expanding and contracting within itself to form and dissolve all things. How do I know this? I just made it up. Prove me wrong.

[@mikeyuskiw3477]

@@JamesRichardWiley "Prove me wrong" is not how logic works. A claim carries its own burden of proof. So, go ahead and proof yourself right instead.

[@abrandpluckedoutofthefire8043]

@James Richard Wiley Cliffe might say : please give evidences supported this , and we can discuss about those evidences

[@jessebryant9233]

@@mikeyuskiw3477 Never say that to an atheist! Oh, no, they "lack belief"! But what are the implications of their "lack of belief" in the supernatural? Well, that leaves them with what exactly? Okay, and how do they prove that? They won't even try!

[@jessebryant9233]

Which means that when you use the term 'evolution' you are not talking about it in the Darwinian sense/common ancestry.

[@joegraves1206]

Thank you for this content. It’s like what my friends and I say, “Eating your vegetables.” This is healthy and appreciated. If only more people would eat these vegetables.

[@DRayL_]

If you mean, the "vegetables" Cliffe is promoting,...then I don't see it as you do. To me, he is promoting "junk food". It's all in how you perceive the topic, though.

[@jessebryant9233]

@@DRayL_ Got any meat and potatoes for us, "Deavon"?

[@DRayL_]

@@jessebryant9233 I'm still looking for them. 🙂

[@jessebryant9233]

@@DRayL_ Take all the time you need... [elevator music]

[@nnamdiubbaonu4381]

The issue in this discussion is that those students simply didn't know the definition of the word "objective". They think that if everyone on earth believes in something, then that's what makes it objective. Instead, an objective truth would be something that is true independent of peoples' opinions. I would have simply asked the question, "if everyone on earth believed that the earth was flat, would that mean that it is objectively true that the earth is flat?"

[@theoskeptomai2535]

Seeing that you understand the meaning of "objective," as do I (as I agree with your definition), do you assert there to be objective moral values as many Christians do?

[@peterberr3888]

@@theoskeptomai2535 yes. And you assert subjective moral values only exist. Could you please elaborate on how you subjectively value a human life as this is the basis for our moral attitude to others?

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@peterberr3888 I answered this very question thoroughly when you asked the very same question in another comment thread, did I not?

[@peterberr3888]

@Theo Skeptomai it did not appear in my comments; i get a feeling a lot of stuff goes missing in these youtube comments. Pls copy + paste here.

[@nnamdiubbaonu4381]

@@theoskeptomai2535 Yes, I do believe that objective morality exists, as do most people on earth, not just Christians.

[@jasondottin6769]

This kid keeps burying himself everytime he opens his mouth. But cliff i have to say you have so much patience God bless you sir

[@tommypaul22]

can watch the videos all day long an still learn something new

[@JamesRichardWiley]

What are you learning, that snakes talk, or corpses come alive or a 500 foot wooden boat is seaworthy? In what reality?

[@atheismisamentaldisorder1839]

@@JamesRichardWiley He is learning that rocks magically don't come to life. Killing is actually wrong and atheists are willfully ignorant.

[@tommypaul22]

@@JamesRichardWiley Who created the earth?

[@mbgrafix]

Another outstanding video!

[@BeatsTwoFour]

I’ve seen this before when someone doesn’t know the difference between objective morality and universal morality. Objective: true regardless of what anyone thinks or feels about it Universal: only true if everyone agrees and feels the same way

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 does someone really have to "prove" to you that it's wrong to kidnap, torture, rape, kill, cook and eat an innocent 5 year old? This moral obligation is axiomatic. It's also an obvious enough that even the most hardened skeptic can recognize it for what it is. Only the most foolhardy cynic will refuse to admit the obvious. This is classic cognitive dissonance. You know it's truly wrong no matter who thinks otherwise but you also know that a value that's outside the human consciousness is not the RESULT of human consciousness so rather than even consider the possibility of divine providence, you deny the truth.

[@BeatsTwoFour]

@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 I get what you’re saying, but the argument at this point isn’t to prove objective morality, but to provide evidence that it exists. Nothing is proven, everything that anyone believes is a result of examining evidence and drawing a conclusion

[@BeatsTwoFour]

@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 I’m not sure that’s what Cliffe is doing. I think he is citing the Nazi trials to dismantle the socialization argument, albeit not very neatly. The kid responds by positing the utilitarian argument which, incidentally, is actually an objective moral argument

[@BeatsTwoFour]

@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 the question is if there is evidence that any objective morality exists. See, if there is no such thing as objective morality then there was nothing actually wrong with the holocaust. It just so happens that most other countries disagreed with Germany. But let’s say that they hadn’t. Let’s say that the majority of nations agreed with the Nazis and helped them complete their objectives. We’ll if morality is only ever subjective, then so what? It’s just a matter of preference. So then words like right and wrong have no meaning. They are just made up to suit preference. Are you willing to hold the position that Nazi Germany stood on equal moral footing for their actions as the non-violent Civil Rights movement? That it’s all simply relative?

[@BeatsTwoFour]

@@sterlingfallsproductions3930 I think you miss my point entirely. I’ve actually been saying that there is a stark difference between universal and objective morality. Universal morality doesn’t exist and is therefore irrelevant. Objective morality does not require universal morality to exist in order to be true. I went “straight to the holocaust” because it was relevant to the vid and it establishes a premise that when social systems fail, there is a larger/overarching morality that we turn to. I’m not making a Christian argument, I’m stating the case for objective morality. Let’s deal with exhibit A before we move on to B through Z

[@jdubb6557]

Wow blown away by this one

[@Gearsolid3D]

i really love your videos and am learning a lot from your channel. this is my church to be honest with you. but I have a problem, you can reach more people by making changes in your thumbaail and titles. check your tags also. you are too intelligent to reach only a few people.

[@krabbble]

I agree, I think these videos would reach 10x the amount of people if only they could be branded and cut a little better

[@Gearsolid3D]

@@krabbble very true.

[@nonpossenonpeccare9104]

He is teaching some defective doctrine though. “Part of creator of the cosmos became incarnated as the Son” God does not exist of parts.

[@Gearsolid3D]

@@nonpossenonpeccare9104 I've watched a lot of his videos where he explains it better. What he's doing isn't easy, he has to be appreciated rather than being judged

[@krabbble]

@@nonpossenonpeccare9104 I don’t think he’s speaking that literally, it’s just a way of explain God being triune in nature

[@andrewdurfee2891]

When he brought up the 10commandments, i bet that would have confused them if they would have said something about the Sabbath Duet27:26/Gal3:10 Great Segway Rom3:20/Gal2:16

[@Vaedyx]

What do you want me to say? I believe in evolution because I believe in evolution. Makes perfect sense 😂

[@boltrooktwo]

That is how it is blind faith, you’ve never seen evolution create things without reason just to exist but that makes you feel important, doesn’t mean it’s the truth.

[@boltrooktwo]

@@davidbermudez7704 Did nothing tell you that?

[@cameroneagle4370]

i think i got brain damage by listening to that guys logic... God bless him.

[@colinmatts]

We believe in evolution because of the mountains of evidence from the fossil record and DNA that supports the model

[@cameroneagle4370]

@@colinmatts why have humans evolved different then all other creatures ... example , all animals still live the same as they did in the beginning , birds still make nests and live in trees....humans build houses , fly in planes , drive in cars , build cities etc etc ... why are humans different ?

[@nishan1ramdass83]

Cliff is brilliant 👏

[@user-cu3xn4xj3i]

Yesssss Cliffe... past, present and future!!!!

[@giarose6493]

They all say they all blame people in society. It’s crazy. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@baslielalene4702]

Thank you Cliffe. God bless you so much.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Lots of words but no Jesus.

[@stevesteven5257]

First minutes of this video made me cry on how big His love is

[@jacobmarquez1977]

Praise the Lord i love your preaching pastor Cliff 🙏🙏❤️

[@ashleymiller5447]

I love the belt! Spreading the word in style 😎

[@immanuel829]

Oh boy, the young man has no clue about abiogenesis. Scientists themselves say it is a mystery how chemicals gave rise to biology (e.g. Nature Reviews Chemistry 2020).

[@alexanderb5726]

Both the guy and girl went by this very strange rationale that if all humanity does not abide by an objective morality that means no objective morality exist. How on earth does that make sense? There are objective laws/rules to follow if I play a videogame, I can ignore them per my free will but that doesn't remove the rules from the game. Humanity was given free will, humanity rebelled against God's design, God represents an objective truth about right and wrong irregardless of whether His creations engage in all kinds of mischief. There's no conflict between these claims. I mean that's very simple to understand.

[@joojotin]

God creating the universe is infinite times more propable explanation than the argument that the universe formed by itself randomly and now we are in a perfect place to live by infinite amount of accidents just happenings randomly. If someone uses only logic to think about formation of our universe there should only be one obvious conlcusion if you think rationally. Believing in infinite number of accidents is more crazy, not to mention the fact that science doesnt support atheism its rather the opposite.

[@spacecoastz4026]

Plus it does not explain, and never will, just where all this "stuff" like matter, space, the elements, the atom, energy, etc came from. Nothing would ever be able to create anything. I'm amazed how people can discount God, think that the existence of God is crazy, but yet think that somehow everything just magically appeared.

[@joojotin]

@@spacecoastz4026 Yeah exactly, it boggles my mind.

[@brycebarfield4658]

I learn so much from these

[@JesusisGodandKingofkimgs]

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[@Gm-ok1zb]

I agree with cliff on his points but I’d like to see him dial back on the aggression

[@swiftblackninja]

That’s apart of his personality I love it.

[@Gm-ok1zb]

@@swiftblackninja yea but no matter how true your words are, bad delivery can make it harder for anyone to receive

[@braydans359]

I think he's becoming more aggressive lately. We need to keep praying for this man.

[@lightworker4512]

Agreed. Comes off as too fanatical. Comes off as close mindedness

[@reubenlyimo]

@@lightworker4512 well when you have been hearing the same arguments from students for 40+ years i think anyone would start to lose their patience

[@Dougmolls]

This student definitely has a future. I give him credit. Well spoken.

[@maseelliott4515]

He says a lot that means very little

[@jsk5633]

It’s awesome to see cliffe argue with people who clearly have not had much experience in these discussions. It’s gives the perception that he knows what he’s talking about. If you watch any debate with someone who’s had experience with these assertions you’ll see him fail every time. As with anyone who only asserts without evidence. Pathetic

[@andrewgravagna]

So he’s not allowed to talk to people that don’t have experience? He should just keep his experience and studies to himself? That’s a lazy argument on your end

[@fitzritz4822]

Care to link the video? id like to see it

[@spacecoastz4026]

Assertions such as "design implies intelligence", or "design implies a designer", or "absolute truth doesn't change", or "repeatable occurrence implies evidence"....all those assertions that somehow would fail if only he debated someone who has more experience? I don't think so.

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

Right. So you would prefer better obfuscation. Got it. These students do just fine regardless of how little you think if them.

[@SR-ry6hs]

@@andrewgravagna talk to whomever you wish. Do you want to have a discussion or trounce some first year biology students. Then Cliff is your man. If you want to test your arguments then this is not the forum. Just spreading bad logic is not helping people, unless this is spot the logical fallacies game.

[@benjila2008]

i admire this kid tho, he argues respectfully, without attitude. keep it up lad

[@Laura-dz9om]

This student in his pride can't or won't see what Cliffe is saying about objective morality. He needs prayers for sure.

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

Yes. And slightly less narcissism wouldn't hurt either.

[@upsidedownkingdom5263]

I wouldn't say it was pride or narcissism that was stopping his understanding of this particular argument (although, he is human so likely does have pride etc), in this case it seems more like he thinks objective morality means the morality which has consensus. I might be wrong, but from the context of his arguments, it seems he is defining objective in that way. To me, it seemed neither understood what the other was getting at because they were looking at objective morality from the perspective of their own trains of thought, and not imagining themselves in eachother's shoes in order to explain in a way the other could understand based on their train of thought at the time. I think when the student gets time alone to think about it, he will recognise what cliff was really getting at.

[@colinmatts]

Morality is not objective. Does the universe care what you do or think?

[@phoenixgamer1565]

That guy is so deluded it is truly scary. Great job at pointing it out, Cliffe! They think they are so smart, but their foolish pride will cost them their eternity.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

Who exactly possesses an eternity?

[@phoenixgamer1565]

@@theoskeptomai2535 We all go into eternity after we die. Those that reject Jesus Christ will spend their eternity separated from God; tormented forever.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@phoenixgamer1565 What data did you analyze and what methodologies did you employ to determine that we all go into eternity when we die?

[@phoenixgamer1565]

@@theoskeptomai2535 You think you are intelligent, but I assure you that you are a fool if you think God does not exist and you came from a mindless explosion billions of years ago. From the goo to you is beyond laughable. To answer your question, it's in the Bible. And I'm sure you will say there's no evidence. Well, you are living in the end times and the Book of Revelation is occurring in front of your eyes. The Quantum Dot Microneedle Vaccine patch with LUCIFERase is the Mark of the Beast exactly as the Bible describes. No buying or selling without it.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@phoenixgamer1565 Well, are you going to answer?

[@ramptonarsecandle]

Frederick Douglass told in his Narrative how his condition as a slave became worse when his master underwent a religious conversion that allowed him to justify slavery as the punishment of the children of Ham. Mark Twain described his mother as a genuinely good person, whose soft heart pitied even Satan, but who had no doubt about the legitimacy of slavery, because in years of living in antebellum Missouri she had never heard any sermon opposing slavery, but only countless sermons preaching that slavery was God's will. With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion. -Steven Weinberg

[@AnnoyingMoose]

That kid should listen to Dr. James Tour tell him how unlikely it is that chemicals would react like that.

[@zoomkaboom1]

I think one of the biggest problem or weakness in the thinking of students is that their short experience in life limits them to analyze fully and think deep about certain issues of life. Its a common denominator of what i see in these videos. Young students find it difficult to grasp what Cliffe is saying due to their short experienced life span. Instead of humbling themselves, they act as if they know it all. They take the "science" taught in schools as concrete truths, ....blindly believing,.... For example, supposedly scientist creating DNA or life in the lab out of some electricity and chemicals. Now that is blind faith! Foolishness. I recall hearing somewhere that the building of just one amino acid from chance is astronomically small, its outrageous. Much less the probability of the entire DNA sequence PLUS nucleus and other cell parts coming from chance and time. Its ridiculous.

[@dogelife7901]

It's a heart issue, rationalized with guise of science

[@jessebryant9233]

...and a lifetime of indoctrination and the failure to think critically.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@jessebryant9233 Careful Jesse, you're actually describing Christians.

[@rinzler9171]

@@theoskeptomai2535 Look up Jim Wallance and get back to us later. Adults are speaking.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@rinzler9171 Why would I need to look up Jim Wallace?

[@oscarsantos2240]

Thank you ! ♥️

[@JonahGhost]

People get confused with determining what is right and wrong. It's rather simple. God has written the basic rules in our hearts(murder is bad etc.). We need to go to scripture to get the details and further instructions. Romans 2:14-15 14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)

[@theoskeptomai2535]

Has this god written these basic rules in my heart?

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

@@theoskeptomai2535 give it a rest! No one is interested in submitting to your absurd interrogations.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 No. I will not give it a rest. I am hear to discuss the claims Jonah Ghost has made. I may learn something by having a discussion with him. 1) How is my question a "absurd interrogation"? 2) What question could I ask that would NOT be considered by you to be "absurd interrogation"?

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

@@theoskeptomai2535 1) the repetitive nature of your interrogations make your questions absurd. 2) the only question YOU could ask that isn't absurd is a question YOU didn't think of. You're ridiculous. When are you going to realize it?

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 1) When have I ever asked my question above before? Be specific.

[@jakegargiulo5101]

That explanation of how DNA came about was pretty good, can't lie

[@jessevara7561]

OMG this guy doesn't get it so sad

[@jessevara7561]

man get this guy out of here so dumb it scary

[@jessebryant9233]

Doesn't get what exactly? Which guy?

[@nathaneldred8873]

Come to SMU please!!

[@saintpaulofyoutube4416]

Yes!!

[@Seeker7257]

Humans are created in the image of GOD; The only GOD who truly loves us and wants us to be saved of our sins! That is why HE sent HIS only begotten SON to be a ransom for many!!!

[@colinmatts]

"Humans are created in the image of GOD"...how do you KNOW this?

[@sly33]

He's like: Life comes from non-life. Cliffe: Okay, explain. He proceeds to explain humans in a lab creating life 😂🤣.

[@joshjeggs]

A fool is not simply someone that is ignorant. It is a person that has replaced his or her ignorance in a subject with the opposite of the truth. the young man believes scientists understand how life originated and even claimed to know how it was done. This is a fool. it is a shame to him that atheists with a higher education in biology and chemistry would agree with me on this as well.

[@techgamer8]

Well said.

[@colinmatts]

Nobody knows for certain how life originated. That means it's a mystery that needs to be researched. Superimposing the super natural on the issue does nothing to illuminate it

[@joshjeggs]

@@colinmatts the origin of life is a historical question. You first sentence is an unsubstantiated claim.

[@rong7676]

That first guy trying to puff up the results of the Miller Urey experiment was quite skilled at mental gymnastics.

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

The world’s morality changes but God’s standard of morality always stays the same. Glory to our King Jesus Christ the true Messiah our LORD and Provider. Romans 12:1-2 👑 Romans 8:28 🛡

[@SR-ry6hs]

@Our Savior oh, so you follow the rules of the old testament? Dang, how are you not in jail? Doesn't change morals, that's rich.

[@dogelife7901]

If morality is subjective, there is no morality.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

Does this supposed standard of morality address every moral dilemma?

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@dogelife7901Are the ANY other assessments you deem to not be subjective?

[@jackalsgate1146]

MORALITY - Child Abuse: 1) In 1880, the ages of consent were set at 10 or 12 in most states, with the exception of Delaware, where it was 7. It was morally-acceptable; until, it became morally-unacceptable. 2) Children as young as four years old worked long hours in factories. This was morally-acceptable until laws were passed that made child labor morally-unacceptable. 3) Children have been beaten and abandoned for thousands of years, based primarily on the belief that children are the property of their parents. In most ancient societies it was morally-acceptable for the father to kill his children for disobedience and the sexual abuse of children was also morally-acceptable and women often participated in the abuse. Petronius, recorded the rape of a seven-year-old girl witnessed by a line of clapping women. Eventually these atrocities became morally-unacceptable. Murder: 1) In the Phillipines, the president was elected on a platform for killing hundreds of thousands of drug dealers, and users, and gave carte-blanche, to the population, to murder anyone they suspect is involved in drugs. This resulted in thousands of innocent people being murdered; but, it was deemed morally-acceptable. 2) In the Bible, your god, made murder one of the Ten Commandments, and then, proceeded to break the very law he set-down and you Christians give him a pass; cause, you claim that he can do whatever he wants, after all: he's god. Rape: 1) In the United States, prior to the mid 1970s, marital rape was morally-acceptable, and exempted from ordinary rape laws. The exemption is also found in the 1962 Model Penal Code, which stated that "A male who has sexual intercourse with a female not his wife is guilty of rape . . ." It wasn't until the middle 1970's that it became morally-unacceptable. 2) For a long time, the rape of a woman was considered a property crime against the victim's husband or father. The word itself derives from the Latin word rapere, or seize. It wasn't until the 11th and 12th centuries that rape began to be considered more as a violent, sexual crime against the victim. 3) In the Old and New Testament, your god, is running around impregnating whomever he chooses with his magical sperm; whereby, he leaves the child without a parental, material father. 4) We also have your Moses telling the Israelites, after a battle, to take the virgins as spoils of war and do with them as you will. Fornication - 1) It was Paul who chastised the church in Corinth for practicing fornication and having sex with the Father's wife; something, that the infidels would not dare do. I Cor.5:1 - "It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife." 2) And we all know that if you want to have sex before marriage: find a Christian girl. Stealing - The American Indians never had a word for stealing, and even today, there are tribal societies; whereby, the entire community shares in the prosperity, and wealth, of another individual within the community. They are not selfish and if one member prospers; then, the entire community benefits. To them: there is no such thing as stealing. 1) Your televangelists steal money everyday from the sick and elderly and you people try to sugar-coat it by saying that they are using the money for God's work, or that, the sick and elderly are freely giving it away; so, it's not really stealing. 2) It was you Christians who stole this land from the Native Americans and you just call it conquest, and if that wasn't bad enough, you guys forced them onto reservations cause of your gluttony and you couldn't just share the land with them. You called them savages cause they didn't believe in your God and by the end you murdered 3.4 million Native Americans. Morality, like everything else: expands and contracts, rises and falls. Where is your god.?

[@2Morethings]

I so love to watch Cliff debate with people it is interesting how people think 🤔 and act when they find out he is speaking truth

[@theoskeptomai2535]

What statement of Cliffe's was truthful. Can you present an example?

[@jessebryant9233]

@@theoskeptomai2535 What statement of Cliffe's was not truthful? Can you present an example? (Yeah, we can do this all day-and you will run away every single time! As is your MO.)

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@jessebryant9233 Did I assert that any statement Cliffe spoke was not true?

[@colinmatts]

I'd like to see him debate with grown up skeptics

[@jessebryant9233]

@@theoskeptomai2535 So you believe that everything Cliffe said was truthful then? [YICDIT]

[@chad969]

If God's plan of salvation was to send the messiah to die for the sins of the world, and if the torah was merely a shadow of things to come, why would God inspire the end times prophecies of the Tanakh to include a restoration of the animal sacrificial system? (Jeremiah 33:17-18, Malachi 3:3-4, Isaiah 56:7, Isaiah 60:7, Ezekiel 20:4,45:17,19-20,22, Zechariah 14:21)

[@thetruthtrumpsallliesfromt4399]

The reasoning of these folks are so circular delusional unless they get off that vicious cycle they will remain on hamster wheel and will never be able to escape the rabbit hole.

[@kyakore]

lmfaoooo i love how cliff is heated asf at the beginning

[@Lissaxoxo92]

I've noticed you have a favorite shirt lol😂

[@eladioromo64]

GREAT JOB CLIFFE KEEP IT UP! GOD BLESS YOU 🙏

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Cliffe has a book to back up his argument. But no Jesus or God. Case dismissed.

[@Mainic2]

" Well, if he said so, he has scientific evidence"😂

[@eugenehvorostyanov2409]

As for mentioned experiment for origin of life - it’s Miiler-Urey experiment, results of which is few amino acids (building blocks of proteins) of mixed chirality (which is unusable for building working proteins) while biology-relevant is only left handed chirality amino acids. And even when you are somehow able to get those relevant amino acids you get to a more complex problem that’s sequencing and origin of specific information. Then you need folding enzymes… And this is only tiny part of living cell. Modern science have not come close to assembling a simple living cell with all it’s top equipment. In fact this aim getting farther away because of new aspects of complexity of the cell we begin to understand.

[@DaveHarris-lr5my]

Most of these debates don't ever get to the root issue which is the absolute failure to recognize a higher power that contradicts or conflicts with overwhelming instincts and desires that you would rather indulge in now. And when you're older then, those desires begin to faint. Then, in your wisdom and desire of self-preservation for eternity you will likely believe in a higher power granting you eternal life.

[@kaipoijamile1157]

Aloha from hawaii cliffe! When you coming lol?

[@mikegreen2229]

Just because people or a culture can sear their conscience, doesn’t mean that moral values are truly different