Asking Welsh People If They're Proud To Be British

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JOE

JOE

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@southamptonscifi4012
@southamptonscifi4012 7 күн бұрын
I used to work on P&O Cruises and the amount of people that didn't write British as their nationality on their US Immigration documents caused massive delays.
@c.rliddle1050
@c.rliddle1050 7 күн бұрын
Real heads know that the Welsh are the true Britons and the English are Saxon foreigners
@paulies5407
@paulies5407 7 күн бұрын
More celts live in England than Scotland, Wales and Ireland combined you consumate bellend. Yours sincerely, a Saxon descendant who bashed your ancestors around cause they were fannies
@Quantumpancake555
@Quantumpancake555 7 күн бұрын
I'm welsh and just stfu by this point we are all mixed if your white in the uk, most share strong Briton dna.
@antonm1834
@antonm1834 7 күн бұрын
Completely untrue. If I were you I'd do a bit of reading instead of regurgitating something you heard 20 years ago. English people have almost exactly the same amount of various Celtic DNA as Welsh.
@OiiRobbi3x
@OiiRobbi3x 7 күн бұрын
🤣🤣absolute bs living in a dream world were all british whether we like it or not.
@VR-mq3jt
@VR-mq3jt 7 күн бұрын
I'm English and sad to hear that you feel this way. I like and respect Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, so sorry to hear that despite me being born in England, you consider me a foreigner!
@davemorrison3705
@davemorrison3705 7 күн бұрын
I'm English. Both my parents are half Welsh (Dad's mum Port Talbot, Mum's Dad Cardiff) I have Irish Ancestry (Kilmacthomas) How you can define an entire nation as "stuck up cunts" or "reformers" is beyond me. Very narrow minded. I'm British. We should all be proud of being british, rather than the shame that keeps being rammed down our throats. We should also be proud of our individual nations. Dw i'n caru Cymru
@VR-mq3jt
@VR-mq3jt 7 күн бұрын
I totally agree! I'm English, living in Scotland, and like and respect all the constituent nations of the UK. The self-loathing/English hating media narrative has become very boring!
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 7 күн бұрын
Every day, in every way, I thank God for making me Welsh. Because when you look at the alternative... {:o:O:}
@chromenewt
@chromenewt 7 күн бұрын
I'm English and I agree with the Welsh. We're arseholes and think we're the centre of things without consideration of the other nations of the United Kingdom (as in, they're there but no consideration or differentiation from us is made) and they're expected to cowtow to what we say. I'm saying this as an Englishman that has Scottish family and friends from Wales and Ireland (who lived through The Troubles) that have taught me a lot about our ignorance.
@mintywebb
@mintywebb 6 күн бұрын
You are a far right country though and Wales is not.
@VR-mq3jt
@VR-mq3jt 6 күн бұрын
@@mintywebb And yet back in July, the country elected a left-wing Labour Government with a huge majority!
@jamesheath7601
@jamesheath7601 7 күн бұрын
I’m English but I like the Welsh I’ve been to Wales many times good people
@ajrh82
@ajrh82 7 күн бұрын
There’s good people in all corners of the world. And bad people too
@actionjackson180
@actionjackson180 5 күн бұрын
Welsh people are bound to say Welsh because of their history under England.There's no acceptance of British because it's seen as English.
@nathanhall4063
@nathanhall4063 3 күн бұрын
us celts stick together 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@da90sReAlvloc
@da90sReAlvloc 5 күн бұрын
You should do this experiment with geordies. , I'm a Geordie and british. But i identify as Geordie first. I feel closer to Scottish than the rest of England, So i think. This experiment would be good done in Gateshead/Newcastle
@OldWolflad
@OldWolflad 3 күн бұрын
You wouldnt have Scottish heritage would you? Because 99% of Geordies are patriotically English
@ellismeah8110
@ellismeah8110 3 күн бұрын
You're very much English , what country is Newcastle in ,it's not Scotland
@thesagebrushkid1
@thesagebrushkid1 2 күн бұрын
@@da90sReAlvloc real interesting that I’ve met a few Geordies who feel the same way! Living on the border they felt more love from Scotland than England and felt closer to their neighbours than their own country. And actually speaking about national identity with those from the north east the gripes are very similar to Wales. Feeling left out or ignored, overlooked, not taken seriously, even discriminated against for their accents, and how this translates into a lack of development politically, such as shite infrastructure and fewer employment opportunities, same as in Wales! I agree I’d love to see this done in the north east!
@robinmcewan8473
@robinmcewan8473 5 күн бұрын
The Welsh are the real British
@MaxwellDurrans
@MaxwellDurrans 2 күн бұрын
I agreee, I'm scottish irish, english and welsh and I've spent the most of my life in england and wales and I like wales much much much more. The romans called the ancient celts of the island of 'Britain' The 'Britons' That's where the name british came from, and all the surviving ancient Celts retreated into wales. Couldn't agree more.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman Күн бұрын
Solidarity with our friends in Cymru, from Scotland.
@UlsterLoyalist70
@UlsterLoyalist70 4 сағат бұрын
Britain forever EU never
@kiltedkiller8178
@kiltedkiller8178 7 күн бұрын
Scotland, Wales and Ireland/N.I! ❤️
@callummccracken7565
@callummccracken7565 2 күн бұрын
Bit awkward when you realise the latter hate each other
@Steaks652
@Steaks652 5 күн бұрын
It is time for our kingdom to Unite, wak up.
@johnsmith-bi9zz
@johnsmith-bi9zz 7 күн бұрын
JOE up to their stirring tricks again, eh?
@joJOjoJOjoJOjo.JOjoJOjoJOjoJO
@joJOjoJOjoJOjo.JOjoJOjoJOjoJO 6 күн бұрын
"England needs Wales as well... I don't really have a reason why..." Last time I checked England needed billions of litres of water from Wales annually (and the Welsh get charged enough for their own water regardless!)
@realhorrorshow8547
@realhorrorshow8547 5 күн бұрын
Rain falls. Water runs downhill.
@joJOjoJOjoJOjo.JOjoJOjoJOjoJO
@joJOjoJOjoJOjo.JOjoJOjoJOjoJO 5 күн бұрын
@@realhorrorshow8547 It only runs as far downhill to the point where an independent country prevents it running any further, to say nothing of pipes and aqueducts. Hence (in answer to the young man's comment on the video) England benefits from Wales being within the United Kingdom rather than having the authority to determine who else gets its water.
@realhorrorshow8547
@realhorrorshow8547 5 күн бұрын
@@joJOjoJOjoJOjo.JOjoJOjoJOjoJO Where are you going to keep it? What are you going to do with it? I live in a hilly rural area, where first one, then another road has washed out in the last few years. Where low-lying areas were impassable at points of the winter. What advantage do you imagine we might gain from trying to deny rain to downstream town and cities? How about wind or sunshine, or perhaps these are things we might share?
@joJOjoJOjoJOjo.JOjoJOjoJOjoJO
@joJOjoJOjoJOjo.JOjoJOjoJOjoJO 4 күн бұрын
@@realhorrorshow8547 I'm not making a case for not giving water to England, nor for seeking independence on the basis that Wales has water and England needs it. Again: the guy in the video said he didn't have a reason why England needs Wales. I've just supplied one. (Got plenty of wind too, now that you mention it. Sunshine... not so much). Of course it makes sense to share resources within a united country, and even to make arrangements without.
@realhorrorshow8547
@realhorrorshow8547 4 күн бұрын
@@joJOjoJOjoJOjo.JOjoJOjoJOjoJO You said: "It only runs as far downhill to the point where an independent country prevents it running any further." That looks like a claim that Wales could stop water flowing to England. So, again, how would that happen and what would you do with it?
@RaeKearns
@RaeKearns 4 күн бұрын
An Breatainn Beag is the Irish for Wales meaning Little Britain, I kid you not, name came a 1000 years before modern Britain was formed..
@Theother1089
@Theother1089 7 күн бұрын
It's weird, that with devolution and more independence, people feel less happy being British. I'm English and get the hump that on all identity papers, I have no nationality but British, I'm English first, never even been to Scotland!
@Udhdhfufuf
@Udhdhfufuf 5 күн бұрын
This all depends on what town your going around in wales whether it’s north or south
@mintywebb
@mintywebb 6 күн бұрын
The problem is, if its like a marriage, its an abusive one.
@HRD01
@HRD01 3 күн бұрын
£13.5 billion more is spent on wales than is raised from welsh taxes every year, they are funded by the rest of the UK and without the union public services would be even worse. Wales benefit from the union far more than any of the other nations
@thesagebrushkid1
@thesagebrushkid1 2 күн бұрын
@@HRD01 thank you for continuing this abusive marriage metaphor with a brilliant bit of gaslighting! “You take more money than you earn!” Maybe follow up with “you’re a drain on us all” or “you’d be nothing without England!” Because I’m sure you’re thinking it! First thing first you can’t complain about having to fund the home nations when you’re the guys who brought us together. You hold all the cards, you know that, and you bear responsibility for that. So let’s talk about a few things. 1). Britain wouldn’t be where it is without Wales. The industrial revolution would not have been what it was without the enormous amounts of coal, iron, tin and copper coming out of Wales, and remember Welsh coal was still very important right up to the moment Thatcher tore that industry away. 2). Wales has great potential. The uk needs clean energy and wales has a lot of appropriate sites for developing new clean energy sites. Conservation and ecological projects would be perfect here, like successfully bringing back the red kite! Even tourism; Wales could be a world leader in adventure tourism specifically! 3). There seems to be more being done to stop Wales developing than to improve it. Swansea bay tidal lagoon? Nah, too expensive, let’s extend Heathrow instead. Hs2? Let’s call it an England and Wales project even though it won’t be in Wales, don’t worry if that means less money for Welsh transport budgets. That’s without getting into things like Dreweryn… Wales could be great if the wafflers in parliament would take us seriously. But they don’t. England doesn’t. You just tell us how much of a drain we are, how useless the country is, yet never give us any opportunity to pick ourselves up. I genuinely think you lot like to keep us down, maybe you get a kick out of it, or maybe it’s because if we were to level up then we may get ideas about greater devolution or even independence! And we can’t have that, you’d lose your holiday homes AND your best punching bag! This abusive marriage metaphor really works, you keep us downtrodden whilst trying to make us believe that we’re nothing without you when in actual fact you’re scared of us leaving you.
@HRD01
@HRD01 2 күн бұрын
​@@thesagebrushkid1 mate I'm literally Welsh, I just recognise that we need the rest of the UK. I don't deny any of the things you said but Wales does need the union right now, without it we would be very poor, have dreadful public services and wouldn't be able to invest in the ideas you had above due to lack of money, so not only would they not happen but like I said public services would also decline and we'd be in a much worse situation.
@thesagebrushkid1
@thesagebrushkid1 2 күн бұрын
@@HRD01 as it goes I agree with you, the state we’re in now yes we do need the union right now. I think the problem is that the union doesn’t feel like a union, it feels like a trap. If we left and got independence (hypothetically), we’d be in the lurch. But the position we have now means we’re stuck, because the powers that be in London wont give us a chance to level up. So our options are go it alone and let things get inevitably worse or stay where we are knowing that it won’t get better so we’re damned either way. I don’t feel grateful for whatever funding we get in Wales, they’ve got responsibility for us! We’re part of the uk, not a charity case! Funnily enough though it’s not just us, there were headlines the other day about billions going to Scotland for clean energy being described as “freebies” and “handouts”; as if Scotland is some international aid project! We’re part of the UK, we deserve a fair share of the uk economy, and not being funny we could be a much bigger contributor if we’re given a chance.
@Katy-sh3ru
@Katy-sh3ru 5 күн бұрын
I'm English living in Wales and I agree with the folks who don't think British and Welsh are synonymous. Indy for Wales!
@julian.morgan
@julian.morgan 7 күн бұрын
As a Welshman some thoughts, in no particular order. 1) It's all a load of bollocks as we're all mongrels and have been for centuries. 2) If any bunch of people have the right to say they're British it's those who, at least theoretically, are descendants of Britons, rather than Angles, Saxons and Jutes, or Norsemen and Normans. 3) Welsh, Scots and Irish peoples have every right to be extremely pissed off with the predominantly English aristocracy's centuries of exploitation and oppression. The aristocracy's only defence is that they didn't treat the English peasantry very much better and still don't. 4) The Union Jack has no representation of Wales so as a symbol of a cohesive people of these islands (as it was supposed to be before Irish independence) it's a bit shit. 5) If stubborn bloody-minded determination to preserve our language and culture wasn't integral to being Welsh (or Scots or Irish) the whole island would be called, England. 6) Offa built his dyke to keep the British out of Mercia. Arguably Offa also wanted to keep out the Welsh or **wealas** or foreigners or non-Saxons. 7) This is why people from Wales should be proud to be British, as opposed to Scandanavians, Germans and French aka English. 8) See note (1)
@HRD01
@HRD01 3 күн бұрын
Just because your family from hundreds and hundreds of years ago is not from the British isles doesn’t mean you can’t be proud to be British, just as Americans heritage is mostly European yet they can still be proud Americans, same with Australians
@LennonZA
@LennonZA 4 күн бұрын
Out of ideas for content? Let's ask the public whether they're proud to be British... again.
@TomBartram-b1c
@TomBartram-b1c 4 күн бұрын
I'm a proud Welsh speaking person and tbh Ive got less chip on my shoulder than these people on Cardiff, most of whom will only ever know English.
@Coffee23
@Coffee23 7 күн бұрын
He just likes all things English, his accent is English, which makes him English - wonder when his family moved to Wales. 😉😉
@Justinian-IV
@Justinian-IV 7 күн бұрын
I have an English accent, a Welsh birth certificate and an Irish passport, what's your point?
@Coffee23
@Coffee23 7 күн бұрын
You've never lived outside of England - they always say British!
@jamesknight6890
@jamesknight6890 5 күн бұрын
I thought wales was inclusive and accepting? Well unless you speak with an English accent.
@AlexanderMclntosh
@AlexanderMclntosh 4 күн бұрын
I am Scottish but still support s the union great Britain ❤
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman Күн бұрын
I'm Scottish and hate the union.
@UlsterLoyalist70
@UlsterLoyalist70 4 сағат бұрын
@@OneTrueScotsman But... but...muh tories reeeeerr 😂 have fun being British 🇬🇧
@corneliusromeo2123
@corneliusromeo2123 7 күн бұрын
I never thought there was any difference between us apart from our accents my cousins are Welsh 🤔
@13141Scott
@13141Scott 7 күн бұрын
Ones Celtic/Britons the others Anglo Saxon. Like asking what's tgs difference between Germans and French
@simonjohnston9488
@simonjohnston9488 6 күн бұрын
Of course, from your perspective that's how it's supposed to work. Most slave holders thought most of their slaves were happy.
@corneliusromeo2123
@corneliusromeo2123 Күн бұрын
@@simonjohnston9488 wtf you talking about 😂😂😂
@jamied4106
@jamied4106 6 күн бұрын
People saying that England funds the union dont realise that all the funding goes to London - which in turn makes London wealthy and the wealth generated does subsidise the rest of the UK to an extent. Wales is poor in the union, and we'd probably be poor out of it for a while. The UK is now the most unequal country in terms of wealth disparity in Europe! I'd rather Cardiff to blame than London for the state we're in. Annibyniaeth i Gymru!
@LeePerkins-zc1qc
@LeePerkins-zc1qc 3 күн бұрын
Welsh are genuinely racist! I had to live there for 4 years, they were extremely racist.
@mixodorians12
@mixodorians12 3 күн бұрын
Wales is one of the most Inclusive countries in Europe, Cardiff being one of the most multicultural and tolerant cities on planet earth. We reject right wing racist parties who never get any foothold here.
@LeePerkins-zc1qc
@LeePerkins-zc1qc 3 күн бұрын
@ I said what i said! RACIST vile people! There are people openly being racist in this vid there is no debate!!
@UlsterLoyalist70
@UlsterLoyalist70 2 күн бұрын
@@mixodorians12 Why would you want a multicultural society in a country with a dying culture and language? British media called the Southport killer Welsh but we all knew the truth
@yizhou5903
@yizhou5903 2 күн бұрын
I love Wales. Cymru am byth! And I also love the UK. 😂 By the way I'm Asian.
@gameloser2893
@gameloser2893 7 күн бұрын
Believing that all english people are reformers is just crazy. Put a pin in a map and go there and you almost definitely won’t think that. “They’re all stuck up cnts” it’s like some people just want to be mad at England. And it’s only because wales is designated as a country. Like if you go and asked these questions in cornwall or wessex you would get completely different responses just because in the modern day these places are not countries.
@morgenmuffel5747
@morgenmuffel5747 7 күн бұрын
Sweeping generalizations on either side are obviously not good, but the reality is that Wales is indeed a country with a population that has a right to self-determination and independence if that is what the majority were to decide. The same is true of Scotland
@kylesmit2690
@kylesmit2690 7 күн бұрын
Very strange that England is viewed as right wing and intolerant considering Wales voted for Brexit and Reform is polling in second place for the Welsh Assembly.
@VR-mq3jt
@VR-mq3jt 7 күн бұрын
The guy on the video who made those comments is a hateful idiot. In fact, last time I checked, Labour won the General Election, not Reform!
@OldWolflad
@OldWolflad 7 күн бұрын
@@kylesmit2690 yeah those few are too dense to understand that (:-. They prefer their idealistic stereotypes
@OneOfThePauls
@OneOfThePauls 7 күн бұрын
Yeah usual thing across the UK: Lots of angry young men becoming ever more nationalist. It's a media driven narrative (this media, for example)
@latenightlogic
@latenightlogic 6 күн бұрын
The thumbnail is hilarious. That’s like me saying I’m not an earthling, I’m Australian!!!!
@RaeKearns
@RaeKearns 4 күн бұрын
Welsh Secret Service Propaganda, Welsh Imperialist ambitions on colonial expansion, Welsh nuclear program….
@AnnetteBurgoyne
@AnnetteBurgoyne 7 күн бұрын
Many have already said the Welsh are the original Brits.
@garymacdonald7165
@garymacdonald7165 5 күн бұрын
Theres a lot of Welsh living up in Scotland these days (as well as English and Irish)! Maybe because it had cheaper houses!
@oufc90
@oufc90 5 күн бұрын
Anyone born on the island of Great Britain, whether in England, Scotland, or Wales, is British.
@jamesknight6890
@jamesknight6890 5 күн бұрын
Nationalism is such a curse. Why do the two identities have to be in conflict? They don’t and the only reason they are is because some people are for some reason angry at events that happened 600 years ago, yes 600 years ago. There is absolutely no need for Britain to be split into multiple sovereign states other than to satisfy the fragile egos of a few nationalists. The UK is more than the some of its parts and always has been and bitterness towards one of its parts as a few in here made clear is not a viable path.
@chrisperry22cap
@chrisperry22cap 3 күн бұрын
Hear hear 👏
@raeraereadssometimes
@raeraereadssometimes 2 күн бұрын
@@jamesknight6890 Listen, I'm English and, all things considered, I'd quite like the UK to continue. However the UK and it's history are not spotless. And the tension between the English and the Welsh is not all about events from hundreds of years ago. The Tryweryn flooding was 60 years ago. Within living memory. People are still grieving about it. Welsh was only given equal status to English in legal proceedings in 1993. I see comments frequently online from idiotic English people mocking Welsh people. Calling the Welsh language useless or "dead." There's so many English people who get weirdly indignant when Welsh place-names are officially used instead of English ones. There's literally no reason to be upset at this. It's not an attack on us. If Britishness is to mean anything at all we should recognise the Welsh language as part of the rich tapestry that is Britain's culture. We should be glad the Welsh language is flourishing. But many in England simply aren't. Given all of that, there's good reason to be skeptical of the UK as a political entity and to consider a future outside of it. It will only get better if we accept that the UK is far from perfect and needs work. And if we take responsibility and discourage our fellow Englishfolk from being obnoxious arseholes that would help as well.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman Күн бұрын
Keep talking, James, you're helping push up support for dissolving the union. Trying to erase our identity and morph it into English? Not going to happen. After three centuries of trying to, you've failed. We're four countries. Not one. Get off your high horse.
@christopherflux6254
@christopherflux6254 5 күн бұрын
The irony is that the word ‘British’ has Celtic origins and referred more to people we now call Welsh than people we now call English.
@iaskenny9879
@iaskenny9879 4 күн бұрын
Well, actually, you are British and Welsh.
@mixodorians12
@mixodorians12 4 күн бұрын
we are talking about the political union of GB and wider UK political union, not the British Isles per-se.. What...you honestly think these people don't know what Britain is? That these people are responding to a question about whether Wales is physically located on the British Isles.....and they are saying no? You think they don't know that? Jesus.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman Күн бұрын
Well, actually, no they're not. We're talking about how people feel, how they identify, not what it says on a piece of paper. Do keep up.
@UlsterLoyalist70
@UlsterLoyalist70 4 сағат бұрын
@@mixodorians12 According to watermelon losers “Jesus was a Palestinian” despite all historical evidence. lol
@UlsterLoyalist70
@UlsterLoyalist70 4 сағат бұрын
@@OneTrueScotsman Do you identify as a woman too? You are B R I T I S H m 8
@blabla7752
@blabla7752 7 күн бұрын
And this is why better paid jobs are in England instead of Cardiff. Small nation syndrome, and btw I was born in Wales and live here. Passport says British citizen so I go by that.
@123bwlch
@123bwlch 7 күн бұрын
The power is in London and be sucking the wealth across the UK since the 80's. A major inbalance between London/South East and the rest of the UK.
@Coffee23
@Coffee23 7 күн бұрын
Jesus was born in a stable - funnily enough, he's not a horse.
@antonm1834
@antonm1834 7 күн бұрын
@@Coffee23 whats the point of that stupid analogy
@DeadlineG_
@DeadlineG_ 7 күн бұрын
I can back all the people sayin that there more welsh than english, England oppressed Wales and the Welsh for years Things like the Welsh knot, which would make u were a heavy board around your neck if you spoke Welsh back in the 19th-20th century, we only recently got our own identity and before that our culture was oppressed, it is why barely any "Welsh Person" can speak our own language Does Wales need the UK? Yes Reason i say that is because we have a fairly average economy and the only reason we are still standing is because of English Funding, if we were to leave the country would crumble.
@Coffee23
@Coffee23 7 күн бұрын
Did the same to Scotland and Ireland.
@fantanaxxx
@fantanaxxx 4 күн бұрын
The Welsh culture, nation and economy has been absolutely obliterated (as with most of the UK)! It is a very poor country, and the beautiful holiday hot spots have been ruined, all shutting down and boarded up.
@socialgadfly5305
@socialgadfly5305 3 күн бұрын
When did a video on Welsh and Britishness turn to an English bashing session? lol 😂 too funny
@richiesmith3092
@richiesmith3092 5 күн бұрын
Wales, England, Scotland & Ireland have their own cultures. Westminster has never financed Wales properly, and Britain was built on the British Empire and slavery, so I can never identify myself as British.
@TomBartram-b1c
@TomBartram-b1c 4 күн бұрын
You obviously haven't been to Wales. Most people in Wales have absolutely zero interest whatsoever in Welsh culture or preserving the Welsh language. Its not a nice to have to admit but that's the bleak reality.
@richiesmith3092
@richiesmith3092 4 күн бұрын
@TomBartram-b1c I live in Wales!!!!! Yes Cymru is a movement that totally contradicts your statement.
@TomBartram-b1c
@TomBartram-b1c 4 күн бұрын
@@richiesmith3092 ie a pa ganran o'r boblogaeth sy'n perthyn i'r randibw yna? Yes Cymru? 1%? Fi di gweld dirywiad sober iawn yn ystod fy mywyd fi, Capel Hendre/Gorslas, yn cynnwys fy plant yn hunan, cred ti fi.
@UlsterLoyalist70
@UlsterLoyalist70 2 күн бұрын
@@richiesmith3092 Wales is a leach to the UK
@Hebe.mcdavid
@Hebe.mcdavid 5 күн бұрын
I’m genetically quarter welsh English Irish Scottish so equal all four so I see it as I’m ethnically British but my ancestors where welsh Irish Scot’s and English im none of them im of British ethnicity and when you meet them you feel like you’ve gone up a prong on the ladder of evolution . Oh and I will go to whatever part of my British island home whenever I want
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman Күн бұрын
You're where you grew up. We're not defined by our ancestry.
@Hebe.mcdavid
@Hebe.mcdavid Күн бұрын
@ don’t be stupid if a dogs born in a stable it’s not a horse I’m talking about ethnicity im ethnically British my dna is British
@Hebe.mcdavid
@Hebe.mcdavid 18 сағат бұрын
@ you say that like your some kind of authority I’m ethnically British I have four dna histories I’m ethnically British my dna evolved in Britain why would you deny that are you trying to destroy my genetic relevance. That’s called genocide . Talking down to me cheeky cunt
@lozrocks666
@lozrocks666 6 күн бұрын
As an English person I have the opposite dilemma. I’m proud to be British, because it’s inclusive of other countries, but I’m not proud to be English because it represents oppressiveness and excludes other countries. I completely understand why they would say this, too, because “Britishness” from an outsiders perspective is dominated by “Englishness”. I say this as someone who’s lived outside the UK for the last ten years.
@OldWolflad
@OldWolflad 6 күн бұрын
How can Englishness represent oppressiveness? Domestically I can see that, but last time I looked at history it was the British Empire, not the English Empire. Anyway, it was the aristocracy who ruled things not the English per se.
@olivermoore7020
@olivermoore7020 6 күн бұрын
I'm english too and feel the same. I associate "englishness" with football hooliganism, the EDL, exceptionalism etc.
@OldWolflad
@OldWolflad 5 күн бұрын
@ that’s just your perception. It doesn’t have to mean that.
@jamesknight6890
@jamesknight6890 5 күн бұрын
Same in English (with Scottish and Irish blood) and I almost entirely identify as British, I see it as a more inclusive identity and Englishness as a bit backwards. It breaks my heart hearing some spew such hatred towards the British identity.
@OldWolflad
@OldWolflad 5 күн бұрын
@@jamesknight6890 Well it breaks my heart to see people automatically suggesting Englishness has to be backwards or wrong somehow. In fact the people who suggest that are perhaps themselves more bigoted.
@MrPhantom1961
@MrPhantom1961 7 күн бұрын
What a daft question. If you were born in Wales you are both Welsh and British. You should be proud of your Welsh nationality and the fact you are also part of a union. It defies logic when people despise one or the other.
@jamied4106
@jamied4106 6 күн бұрын
It's one thing to say you're British because you're born on the island but I think it's completely normal to renounce Britishness in favour of Welshness. I don't think you'd hear a French person say they're European instead of French. What does it even mean to be British anyway? It was something coined in the late 20th century to basically extend Englishness over the rest of the island.
@lewisherron6842
@lewisherron6842 5 күн бұрын
They're meaning emotionally, not legally you dumb dumb
@Marco-xy7nd
@Marco-xy7nd 5 күн бұрын
You must be English.
@raeraereadssometimes
@raeraereadssometimes 2 күн бұрын
Do you think telling people they must refer to themselves as British is actually going to encourage people to do that? Yes, we're all British citizens technically, but that is clinical, administrative stuff. Cultural and ethnic identity is complex and personal. We should respect it.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman Күн бұрын
But many of us aren't happy with the union, and don't see ourselves as British. There's nothing illogical about that.
@steampunkvampyre
@steampunkvampyre 7 күн бұрын
Wales, Scotland, England and Northern Ireland make up the "United kingdom of Great Britain", therefore you are British and of course also Welsh. I am British and English now living in Wales but that does not make me Welsh.
@jamied4106
@jamied4106 6 күн бұрын
It's one thing to say you're British because you're born on the island but I think it's completely normal to renounce Britishness in favour of Welshness. I don't think you'd hear a French person say they're European instead of French. What does it even mean to be British anyway? It was something coined in the late 20th century to basically extend Englishness over the rest of the island.
@simonjohnston9488
@simonjohnston9488 6 күн бұрын
What a bizarre post. Who is it you imagine you're talking to?
@catpainblackudder01
@catpainblackudder01 5 күн бұрын
@@jamied4106 England, the last colony of Great Britain... We demand independence...
@harshbutfair8993
@harshbutfair8993 4 күн бұрын
There's no such thing as the United Kingdom of Great Britain. There is however such a thing as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. And geographically Northern Ireland isn't British at all and a good chunk of the inhabitants don't regard themselves as that whatsoever.
@Paul-eb4jp
@Paul-eb4jp 5 күн бұрын
Hundreds of years ago some people who have been dead for hundreds of years treated some other people who have also been dead for hundreds of years quite badly so I hate their great, great, great,great, great grandchildren, that’s reasonable insn't it.
@macker33
@macker33 4 күн бұрын
So a countries story doesn't matter?
@harshbutfair8993
@harshbutfair8993 4 күн бұрын
@Paul-eb4jp No, it's not reasonable, but recognising the consequences of what happened those hundreds of years ago that still resonate today would be IMO.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman Күн бұрын
It's not just about history, though. Even today, the rest of the union is mocked, and harmed by politicians in Westminster, which is 85% English, making laws and decisions that affect our countries as well as their own. We should also not forget about history. What would you say to your descendants if they gave up British sovereignty to, say, Germany? A country that we were at war with less than a century ago.
@brianevans3011
@brianevans3011 3 күн бұрын
The Welsh are the original British. Even Americans know this. Going off on a tangent, Welsh is the only official language in the United Kingdom. This means that English is not even an official language of England.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman Күн бұрын
Who cares what the Americans know? Why are their opinions so relevant to this?
@youngwt1
@youngwt1 5 күн бұрын
Slow news day?
@yournotgully
@yournotgully 7 күн бұрын
the truth is wales northern ireland and to an extent scotland hate england because england is by far the most important country in the uk. its just jealousy.
@WalesGaming86
@WalesGaming86 6 күн бұрын
You mistook "England" for "London".
@yournotgully
@yournotgully 6 күн бұрын
@@WalesGaming86 well considering manchester has a higher gdp than wales i wouldnt say thats true
@WalesGaming86
@WalesGaming86 6 күн бұрын
@yournotgully That's only very recent I'm terms of English economics. Traditionally the North has been dirt poor at the expense of the South East.
@brendandunleavy1399
@brendandunleavy1399 5 күн бұрын
We don't hate you,even one like yourself with a slightly arrogant attitude,as for jealousy,more like embarrassed to be linked with you.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman Күн бұрын
What's to be jealous of? We don't want to be like you, we want to be separate from you.
@kurtz2ld907
@kurtz2ld907 7 күн бұрын
It’s absolutely fine to be proud of where you come from… tiresome rage bait.
@tomsanders802
@tomsanders802 7 күн бұрын
What about this is rage bait? They’re asking an interesting question that people give interesting answers to
@paulmcdonough1093
@paulmcdonough1093 4 күн бұрын
in the heads of welsh people forever rent free the english ha ha
@mixodorians12
@mixodorians12 4 күн бұрын
So why is any welsh topic (on youtube etc) is full to the brim with English supremacists?
@timwannell6477
@timwannell6477 6 күн бұрын
Not all us English are arseholes though! same with everyone else! West country so big up the Celtic tribe
@MrKent1111
@MrKent1111 4 күн бұрын
Exactly I’m Welsh and I know of a few bellends in my own street alone 😂 as far as rivalries in sport yes I love that banter but in every day life all the nations have arseholes ridiculous comment
@franciscop5420
@franciscop5420 7 күн бұрын
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@emperorsnewclothes9405
@emperorsnewclothes9405 3 күн бұрын
weirdie beardy pontcanna tosspots, i'm welsh
@denismelvin222
@denismelvin222 2 күн бұрын
Don't be so daft! We are loosing our country! Let's keep our flag flying! 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman Күн бұрын
My country is Scotland. You see yourself as under threat right now. Welcome to our world, living next door to England for centuries. You'll get no sympathy from me.
@denismelvin222
@denismelvin222 Күн бұрын
@OneTrueScotsman 😅 Let's all stick together before it's too late! 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 I have been to Scotland twice and it's a wonderful place!
@OiiRobbi3x
@OiiRobbi3x 7 күн бұрын
English entitled? thats why they subsidize everyone else 🤣clueless.
@raeraereadssometimes
@raeraereadssometimes 2 күн бұрын
@@OiiRobbi3x isn't it pretty much just London and the SE that is "subsidising" everyone, rest of England included?
@OiiRobbi3x
@OiiRobbi3x 2 күн бұрын
@@raeraereadssometimes I mean all of England pays taxes that get used to give Scotland free university, water and prescriptions. Then they just moan about how bad we are same with the others maybe less. I was born in Scotland they dont know how good they have it hence why it bothers me.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman Күн бұрын
@@OiiRobbi3x You're completely wrong, of course. Scotland puts more money into the system than we get back. Also, while we're in the UK, we're forced to do things the British way, instead of being able to use all our own revenue to invest in our own economy, it gets taken to London. So our expenditure reflects how Scotland has to do things while chained to the UK, rather than as a sovereign entity. We're also forced to contribute to things we either don't want, or can't use, like the Trident system, and the HS2, which comes nowhere near Scotland. Also, lets pretend all what you say is true, would you give up 90% of British power to a much larger government, say, Beijing, for free prescriptions and college tuition? Does that sound appealing to you? We don't want, nor need any money from you.
@OiiRobbi3x
@OiiRobbi3x 23 сағат бұрын
@@OneTrueScotsman 🤣🤣mate how long did you take to write all that drivel? your first minister was given 500 million to buy new PCs for schools. No PC's turned up. That is one example of you lot being incompetent would you like some more? you are 7.5% of the UK's GDP you do not "pay it back" as your trying to insinuate i know its hard for you to listen to people telling you that if you went it alone you'd end up in the same predicament your in now just with the EU. Scotland is no powerhouse is whisky, haggis, kilts and beef. You have no oil left so the options are stay with the UK, Go with the EU or end up like Ireland where Corporations take over and you see nothing of the growth. Your all emotions no facts as usual.
@OiiRobbi3x
@OiiRobbi3x 8 сағат бұрын
@@OneTrueScotsman You lot talk but say nothing 😂 ill leave you to your fantasies👍let me know when youd like to talk figures rather than just saying what you think is true.
@veteranclips007
@veteranclips007 4 күн бұрын
Joe you muppet stop with these hatred videos, always putting negative videos on Britain
@realhorrorshow8547
@realhorrorshow8547 5 күн бұрын
How can you be proud of where you were born? It's not a choice. It's not an achievement. In fact that's it. Nationalism is a way for idiots to feel better about themselves without doing anything.
@Mrstevemoore
@Mrstevemoore 7 күн бұрын
Bit cringe this.
@simonjohnston9488
@simonjohnston9488 6 күн бұрын
The amount of upset English in these comments is bizarre. If you really think you're being personally attacked, it's probably for a good reason - and you know it.
@OldWolflad
@OldWolflad 6 күн бұрын
Its a youtube thread watched by thousands of people. Do you not think if there was a thread in England with residents calling the Welsh a bunch of unfriendly, stuck up cunts there would not be a reaction? In fact it would probably be ten times worse.
@JustinHH22
@JustinHH22 5 күн бұрын
Give it a rest, Welsh are very arrogant
@realhorrorshow8547
@realhorrorshow8547 5 күн бұрын
If someone you'd never met told you you were a "stuck up cunt", I dare say you'd feel "personally attacked". Stop making excuses for bigots.
@OldWolflad
@OldWolflad 3 күн бұрын
Considering the English population is 40 million, I would suggest that a very tiny % of people are upset. Having said that, if the video clip interviewed English people and faced such abuse, i suspect Welsh posters would be equally offended.
@BobDavies1
@BobDavies1 7 күн бұрын
As a Welshman, I used to wonder about Welsh independence, until I realised the only guys I knew who were for it, were smackheads, and maybe they don't have a very good grasp of the workings of the Union. There's plenty to blame the English historically for the current problems in Wales, but it smells a lot more of the same kind of pathetic nationalism that leads to Trump, rather than anything that goes anywhere healthy. I'm Welsh, British and European, and the hedge-funders have already stripped me of one of those, they're not getting the other two.
@realhorrorshow8547
@realhorrorshow8547 5 күн бұрын
Classic divide and rule. You're not being ripped off by the rich and powerful. It's them, over there, on the other side of that line on the map.
@joeaddison8664
@joeaddison8664 4 күн бұрын
your all british weather you like it or not
@mixodorians12
@mixodorians12 4 күн бұрын
The Union is voluntary.
@jettser17UK
@jettser17UK 4 күн бұрын
​@@mixodorians12 It has nothing to do with the union. Wales is still part of the land that make up Great Britain as a whole!
@mixodorians12
@mixodorians12 4 күн бұрын
​​​@@jettser17UKwe are talking about the political union of GB and wider UK political union, not the British Isles per-se.. What you honestly think these people don't know what Britain is? That these people are responding to a question about whether Wales is physically located on the British Isles.....and they are saying no? You think they don't know that? Jesus.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman Күн бұрын
No, we're not. It's that simple. Identity is about how we see ourselves. I could insist that you were Neptunian, but unless you felt that way, it means nothing to you. British means nothing to us. Might as well say we're from the northern hemisphere. Does it mean we like the other countries in the union? Like the British flag, its anthem? Its team at the Olympics? Its government? the union itself? My country begins and ends at the Scottish border. That's my only nationality.
@JS-lo8qm
@JS-lo8qm 7 күн бұрын
It's all nonsense at the end of the day.
@jettser17UK
@jettser17UK 4 күн бұрын
Still British yous silly billies! 🇬🇧💙
@mixodorians12
@mixodorians12 4 күн бұрын
Welsh first, European Second, British never.
@UlsterLoyalist70
@UlsterLoyalist70 2 күн бұрын
@@mixodorians12 What does it say on your passport?
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman Күн бұрын
@@UlsterLoyalist70 If a passport is all you need to be a nationality, then if I move to France tomorrow, and become a citizen, got a passport, would that make me a Frenchman? Or just a Scottish person with a French citizenship and a passport? My nationality is Scottish. Britishness means nothing to me. If you still want to claim me as part of your tribe, when I am not loyal to it, then you must be truly desperate.
@UlsterLoyalist70
@UlsterLoyalist70 Күн бұрын
@ There is a huge historic element here; while it’s not necessarily historically accurate that Scotland is effectively a colony of the British Empire (in reality Scotland was a huge perpetrator of the Empire)
@UlsterLoyalist70
@UlsterLoyalist70 Күн бұрын
@@OneTrueScotsman Yes, we have our differences, but what family doesn't? So in the long run this sort of negative arguement which relies only on a given economic circumstance is fairly self defeating.
@wind.del.change
@wind.del.change 7 күн бұрын
i would appreciate if they paid their own benefits.
@OneTrueScotsman
@OneTrueScotsman Күн бұрын
I'm sure they would appreciate it if you kept your hands off of their water and their tax revenue.
@Coffee23
@Coffee23 7 күн бұрын
We are Celts - Scottish, Irish, Welsh! English insist they are British, and never say they are English when abroad - can't think why! Before you all go gaga, my mother's parents and siblings are English. 🤣
@paulies5407
@paulies5407 7 күн бұрын
More celts in England than all those nations combined. You know fuck all.
@OldWolflad
@OldWolflad 7 күн бұрын
What a load of bollocks, the English always say they are English first.
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 7 күн бұрын
I am Welsh. But I'm also British. Proud of the first, not so much the second. And every day, in every way, I thank God for making me Welsh. Because when you look at the alternative... {:o:O:}
@OldWolflad
@OldWolflad 5 күн бұрын
We thank God that people like you were born Welsh (:-
@paultaylor9498
@paultaylor9498 5 күн бұрын
Wales was called Britain hundreds of yeas before it was called wales.
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