Asmongold Reacts To BFA Cinematic FINALE - Saurfang VS Sylvanas (Patch 8.2.5 War Campaign)

THE FINALE IS HERE! World of Warcraft: Battle For Azeroth Cinematic Conclusion of the War Campaign; Asmongold reacts to the final battle between Saurfang and Sylvanas in WoW Patch 8.2.5, the metaphorical god is left speechless..
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[@fqteful711]

“You are all nothing!” Sylvanas has left the guild.

[@voidlux88]

egirl mental booming

[@saulosilva1236]

Sylvanas: "The Horde is NOTHING" Alliance: TRUE MAN

[@lucky_ramen9803]

Reeeeeeeeeee

[@zachschumann5899]

/g quit

[@butteredpooper7750]

666 likes

[@darkermarker2732]

The crowd: Anduin, c'mon dude, res him! Anduin: I can't, he is from another faction

[@marcw6875]

Anduin: I can't. You see, there's dead, there's almost dead, and there's Aerith dead. He's Aerith dead. :p

[@newera478]

Mak'Gora is to the final death. No ressing allowed.

[@HmmWelp]

@@newera478 no magic allowed either iirc. So, free game imo. Also thrall and happy can rez as well, he's literally surrounded by allies that could rez him.

[@witcherpie]

saurafang wanted his warrior's death, they all knew that, why would he wanted to be ressurected?

[@alitaneko]

@@HmmWelp there's no such rule "no magic" in Mak'Gora that's movie bullshit

[@gekkolol]

Sylvanas : THE HORDE IS NOTHING The forsaken right next to her: say sike right now

[@2yoked70]

Giovanni Monteiro dude was like “.....E-excuse me bitch?”

[@misfit7613]

Using original comment from the original video for likes congrats

[@biggy9619]

@@misfit7613 you're a very fun person I can tell

[@N0complex]

LMAO

[@MGC-XIII]

I was kinda weirded out about her reaction considering she's an undead and they're super loyal to Sylvanas, even over the Horde.

[@BlueShellshock]

Sylvanas: "You are all nothing!" Undead flag bearer: "I should have rolled a gnome."

[@victorchairez8907]

Bro lmao

[@spirit1894]

bruh

[@Eddneton94]

literally no forsaken ever.

[@PaulyT999]

Not far from the truth.

[@o0Desimere0o]

Wasn't he a blood elf?

[@robertoromao3498]

Afte that we find out sylvanas found a source of dark magic to go back in time and restore the high elf kingdom Warlords of Lordaeron

[@RippanCSGO]

oh fuck no here we go again

[@Goonshere]

Wouldnt it be warlords of quel’thlas or however you spell it lordaeron is a himan kingdom

[@wholesome1844crucifier]

@@Goonshere No, Lordaeron is the name of the nothern half of the continent

[@JB-xl2jc]

@@wholesome1844crucifier No, Lordaeron is the name of the Human Kingdom. It stretched from the Western areas now known as Tirisfal Glades and Silverpine Forest to the Eastern areas now known as WPL and EPL. Stratholme was on the Northern Border of the kingdom. Quel'thalas is what would now be known as Quel'thalas and the Ghostlands. Completely separate from Lordaeron.

[@wholesome1844crucifier]

@@JB-xl2jc No, the kingdom is named after the northern subcontinent. Just check the wiki if you don't believe me. According to it the name comes from the three main Alliance race languages: "lorn" which means means "land" in Dwarven, "daer" which is Common for "people", and "ronae" that translates to "peaceful" from Thallasian

[@mikayilmustafayev8151]

Sylvanas: "Horde is nothing" *Everybody is shook" Sylvanas: "aight imma head out"

[@noppornwongrassamee8941]

Sylvanas might have killed Saurfang, but she pretty much lost the moral duel. And this moment is when she loses the Horde's allegiance.

[@dacajak]

@John Arch I think her fans know that, that's why they like her. Well she is hot.

[@Mr_Edwards_1995]

They are probably staring at their sylvanas waifu thinking I trusted you...and nutted on you

[@godzilla2k26]

Sylvanas on spoke how Blizzard actually feels about the Horde.

[@scaldarvonascalon5514]

@John Arch Wrong. A true fan of her wasn't shocked at the wrathgate nor teldrassil nor now... =) btw this 2 cinematic with Saurfang made him a lot bigger than before.

[@Yondur1]

Dude they dueled right in front of Org like the rest of us do.

[@mihaimax2180]

Guys look at me i copy pasted the top comment on the original post to get likes ,am i not special?

[@Yondur1]

@@mihaimax2180 Damn dude you just exposed that guy real hard I bet he feels stupid

[@Cdawgstraightupposted]

So relatable

[@touchingisjustthefirststep]

Original comment btw

[@kyleganse4978]

Lmao that was what I thought

[@mattmasters1946]

"Sylvanas is not going to be Garrosh" Blizzard 2018

[@maggimaster]

She isn't Garrosh actually gave a shit about the horde

[@jose507]

@@maggimaster wow storyline gets shittier every expac.

[@alexandermartinez1318]

She's going to be Garrosh AND the Lich King 😂

[@josefplacek4200]

She isnt Garrosh, in any way. Garrosh still was honorable, and cared about the horde. Is she evil tho? Yes. Is it for a reason? I believe so , because forsaken/undead was the only thing she cared for since Wotlk. She broke the cycle of hatred in the end tho, let´s hope it lasts.

[@deathstar6998]

But she is doing the same arc, destroying a majour city, slaughtering her opponent in a duel where they are heavily outmatched. Thinking less of others. How is this not Garosh? Sure Garosh cared for the horde but how can you call it care when he looked down on members of it and was a racist. I believe the 101 to be a part of the horde is to accept all the downtrodden. Now Sylvanus is probably gonna go and join the black empire and seek destruction of the world will become some raid boss, we will kill her and voila Garosh 2.0. Same arc same path same bullshit.

[@DrMaoh]

I laughed so hard at 3:46 someone said "lost to a melee hunter"

[@gogglesveemon5551]

4:55 i love this moment. the smile on Varok face and the outburst of Sylvanas is the moment when Varok knows he won the purpose of the duel, and Sylvanas realizing that she lost when she fell into his trap. As a true war veteran, Varok knew allready he couldn't win in combat agaisnt her. so he defeated her with words. The purpose of the Mak'Gora wasnt to kill Sylvanas, it was to free the Horde from her grasp.

[@marcusc9931]

Epic Rap Battles of History: Ogrimmar Edition.

[@verfluched8578]

In other words, to expose her true colours for all to see. AND HIS SPIRIT SHALL RISE FROM THE GRAVE AND THE WORLD WILL KNOW! THAT _SAURFANG_ *WAS RIGHT.*

[@verfluched8578]

Best thing about it is he showed his men (who swore to die 'for him') that he was also willing to die 'for them...' Like a true Boss And that he valued their lives above glory, and wouldn't send them to fight their own brothers before he committed himself to Mak'Gora. Just like how SS Officers 'had' to be 'the first' to step forwards into battle, to set the example. Unlike most who lead from behind...

[@JB-xl2jc]

"Only one" never meant Sylvanas. Varok knew that the single necessary death... was his own.

[@ben10the10]

@@verfluched8578 Just checking in here 2 years later. You're not actually trying to glorify SS officers in any way are you?

[@Bigsurprise74]

Sylvanas cant fly, she just swapped layers

[@ChimpScape]

I thought she was still using those Goblin Glider kits we all used in Legion

[@asapmaly]

Saurfang seeks an honorable death and to reunite the horde, *Mccuck: "WHY DID THEY KILL HIM THEY HAD NO REASON TO DO THAT"

[@Jelcek28]

@@7GamesUnlimited7 MCCOOL :)

[@verfluched8578]

Yeah that was a great cutscene that I'm surprised ActiBliz can even pull off any more... _(only dumb bit was that Sylvy took literal no knockback from Saurfang the butch's haymaker...)_ hits right in the feelz maann!

[@Seamoorif]

Mccuck’s an idiot.

[@neloverg3774]

@@verfluched8578 hey bro 1 year later and don't worry they didn't let you down with bad cutscenes

[@Naptosis]

@@neloverg3774 or any in fact.

[@truegeminii6030]

Didn't Saurfangs son say "Let it be finished" before the Lich King killed him. Now the same here.

[@naquan59]

Yup

[@jaymzOG]

He did indeed. Well technically he said "LET IT BE FEENESHED"

[@ehodovic]

Incoming WotLk 2: Wrath of the Bitch Queen

[@Birdseed99]

There are lots of similarity's to the wrath gate. The shot of sylvanas's exit out of the gates of org is the exact same shot they used for Arthas at wrathgate, of course let it be finished is dranosh saurfangs last words.

[@nakki123]

Blizzard dont have any new ideas.

[@rwade4387]

"Why didn't she just do that at the start" "Why didn't she just do that at the start"..... Did ya forget Gul'dan losing a large portion of the hordes respect when he cheated? Sylvanas didn't start by cheating because until she said "The horde is nothing"... she still had everyone backing her.

[@Nexuzlord117]

People seem to forget aswell that there are generally no rules in a mak'gora, as such magic is very much allowed. Thrall, Shagara and Ashra have all used magic.

[@angerskarin9222]

@@Nexuzlord117 There no honor in winning with magic that why.

[@Nexuzlord117]

@@angerskarin9222 Orcish Honour is kinda hard to define though, as almost each Orc and Orc Clan has differing views. so no, its not not honourable.

[@Azule13]

@@Nexuzlord117 Its not that magic itself is dishonorable, like shaman magic would be fine, however winning by using dark magic, not natural to their world is considered dishonorable.

[@thargs9184]

@@Nexuzlord117 Thrall used magic against Garrosh and Doomhammer became astranged to him, a Mak'gora is sacred, its skill vs skill, weapon allowed if both agree but beside that, nothing else, its an orcish tradition, shaman can use magic so long as the killing blow doesnt come from it, gul'dan and sylvanas both used their magic to finish their foes in a Mak'gora..thats the cheating and show your lack of knowledge in lore

[@brentchatterley9168]

"why didn't you just do that at the start" -asmongold ...ummm he says it at the beginning, "because you want to see me suffer" killing him instantly wouldn't have been making him suffer, but her greed was her downfall.

[@silverraven9436]

Horde Fighting Horde in front of Ogrimmar gates, now that is Classic Wow

[@boneyard881]

Top comment worthy

[@svantemann]

no this is BFA

[@venom9566]

@@svantemann oof

[@Gbyrd99]

Well challenging to a duel

[@keelabyte]

No this is Patrick

[@saadeamir9437]

Let it be finished, just like his son in front of Wrathgate, wow

[@danmarshall4812]

My favourite part too... nice touch

[@akhsdenlew1861]

WoW

[@ro6500]

finally someone that noticed that detail, everyone else commenting trash

[@BurakkuHishou]

There were several references to quotes of past cinematics: -Sylvanas going "old soldier" was 2 fold, the cinematic named old soldier, and it was a reference to when gen took her chance at immortality from the valkyr she called him "old wolf" with the same manner of voice. -"you cannot kill hope" was what the night elf said to sylvanas before she burned teldrassil. -"let it be finished" as was said at the wrathgate. -"we don't get to hide" from the reunion with thrall cinematic.

[@alexandermartinez1318]

Well that's the point. Blizzard wants to make it clear that theyre doing wrath and garrosh combined in a woman this time because it's 2019

[@HiImEurek]

IS LITERALLY NOBODY RESPECTING MAK'GORA'S RULES ANYMORE???

[@ahmedbinshams488]

yeah man wtf ? first Gul'dan now Banshi

[@georgimihaylov5432]

Yeah, Gul'Dan, Thrall and Now Sylvanas... When has anybody respected its rules?

[@ShadowZeroFlame]

Why nobody understand that rules need to be PRE-DETERMINED ! If no rules were set you are allowed to use everything. Thrall literally didn't cheat. P.S. Learned this like a year ago, so sad about it, still think Thrall is a cheater.

[@KabukiJava]

I think that was the point though saurfang wanted to provoke sylvanas into showing her true colors ie not being honorable and not caring about the horde

[@stealthyspy1012]

uro264 the past is the past, but in the duel you MUST be honorable regardless.

[@ZeruelZero]

Saurfang: "1v1 me outside Orgrimmar scrub"

[@fofolacosa123]

Sylvanas to Saurfang: I trusted you, you betrayed the horde. Also Sylvanas when she gets a cut on her face: THE HORDE IS NOTHING!

[@datpixiegirl1920]

it begs the question - what about all of the Horde soldiers who trusted HER? Hypocrite much?

[@Pop013]

Mind play, nothing else... And Varok outplayed her.

[@marianagomez165]

Technically she left the horde but didnt betray them

[@TK-wq8zu]

*sourfang running back from GY* “No one gonna res me? WoW!”

[@Disastrousmedia]

😂😂

[@nemeanlioness]

Lol, priest anduin just 5 feet away.

[@firebolt100]

Homie ran back to an empty area saying, "Fuck. Where'd those assholes move my body?! AND MY HONOR?!"

[@ameerracle]

Cutscenes deaths are permanent sadly.

[@gwiibear4875]

@@nemeanlioness kick that fucking priestt. worst priest in the world.

[@EltAvO1017]

i mean... the graveyard was so close from there... xD

[@dpy]

Saurfang talking about his old horde sounds like us talking about our old Vanilla Wow XD

[@ahb1126]

Bruuh XXDDDDD

[@skylimitua]

I think Blizzard knew what they were doing. They were probably just trying to appeal to the audience. Didn't fail though, I'm ok with it

[@SergeyFilonich]

Vanilla was great but Warcraft III is forever in our hearts!

[@snuffeldjuret]

@@SergeyFilonich very much so :)

[@ShitBagProductions]

Deep down, we are all Saurfangs.

[@arythane743]

"The horde is nothing!" "You are nothing!" "Nothing last forever!" .... so we are fine, I guess?

[@datpixiegirl1920]

All those double negatives...

[@user-gq6dg7ee6d]

You know I could just Recontextualize what she says for enlightenment

[@arythane743]

@@user-gq6dg7ee6d So you are saying she is the undead Buddha of wow? For the NOTHING!

[@RahuL-rd9fe]

There will always be a lich king.

[@thorveim1174]

Gotta love Saurfang's smile before screaming "for azeroth". He know that at this point, no matter what happens to him, he already won and got what he wanted out of this exchange: to tear Sylvanas out of all the horde, thus uniting it once more and without thousands of deaths.

[@adventurepeaks4514]

Lor'themar: SO SYLVANAS WAS THE SITH LORD ALL ALONG!

[@Grivehn]

How utterly stupid that guy would feel if he werent a fictional character. He still sucked up to Sylvanas even in the blood elf heritage quest recently.

[@Golemoid]

@@Grivehn i mean she was one of them, and then she helped them get into horde

[@Grivehn]

@@Golemoid Because that did so good for them lol. If it wasnt a "collect all the races into those 2 factions" game they should have remained neutral in the first place. Forsaken too and night elves, but thats another topic. Regardless, he was blind, deluded and called void elfs traitors after banishing the other Windrunner and never giving a crap about the 3rd one.. you know, the high elf? Who wasnt even in Bfa whatsoever because high elves couldnt be an allied race but void elves and lightforged draenei, who are even smaller in number, could. Im just glad this expansion finally ends soon.

[@ShadowFri3nd]

*Palpatine* : Ironic

[@veryontron4279]

Still waiting to hear him say "Hello there" so his transformation into Obiwan is complete

[@nightvision_887]

So Sylvanas is so powerful that Saurfang's legendary 10,000 hit cleave barely scratches her face?

[@docbrown2045]

Well he probably didn't train his one-handed sword skill.

[@DarkOrbitMapleFreak]

it was with a 1h tho lower dps

[@Meiscarth]

She has hundreds of years of combat experience over Saurfang. Plus she's become something of an entity so ...yeaah.

[@moonrazor2039]

Saurfang is a punk compared to a literal Banshee with 1000 years as a general.

[@akhsdenlew1861]

well everyone knew that sylvanas vs saurfang is not exactly a fight we wanna see....everybody knew the outcome :(

[@HmmWelp]

Saurfang got exactly what he deserved, what he wanted, and what he earned. An honorable, warrior's death that exposed Sylvanas and saved both sides from thousands of deaths. Saurfang never wanted to grow old. This though, this he wanted.

[@zir456]

so He died using words and died without honor,

[@spacequack5470]

@@zir456 Said nobody with functioning brain cells

[@giantmidget4867]

@@zir456 blind ass. He challenged her one on one. Cried praise for the horde. Saved countless of the horde from dying with those words alone as he outted a traitorous, disloyal warchief. He used words to win but pressed on even still, he successfully struck her and died charging forth to finish her. Dont discredit him as some cowardly pacifist, he died because he charged to end her himself and she cheated, he was just wise enough to also ruin her hold on power before she had the chance to cheat.

[@jacobwalsh1888]

Apparently Zir is an idiot.

[@themidnightaristocrat]

"there was no inclination that he (Saurfang) was gonna die" ... lol what on earth? Is that guy real?

[@turpaan2373]

I bet you all missed the story behind the line: "Let it be finished" Saurfang wields Shalamayne and Dra'gora, weapons of faction leaders and after this fight they were allies

[@fakechloe207]

Nah you missed it too, man. This was his son's last words before he died.

[@spacequack5470]

@@fakechloe207 Obviously both were right. Smh

[@lorddirge9428]

We are too late this entire comment section must be purged

[@kiretoandslimglarus]

How can you even consider that? There's got to be some other way!

[@cautarepvp2079]

@@kiretoandslimglarus Damn as your future king i order you to purge this CITY!

[@CALISUPERSPORT]

@@cautarepvp2079 You are NOT my king yet, boy! Nor would I obey that command even if you were!

[@stareye_1062]

You're a wizard Harry!!!!

[@atropatise8671]

Güzel isim

[@84khoward]

"BUT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO BREAK THE CYCLE!!!" -McCool EZ 2019

[@rRekko]

Alleria and Jaina might need another second to think about "breaking the cycle" lol

[@luskarian4055]

At least Saurfang didn't get killed by a trash mob in the beginning of the next expansion

[@inaotaka1130]

@@luskarian4055 and who was? oh right... i forgot =/

[@gwiibear4875]

@@inaotaka1130 Vol'jin xD second time he get backstabbed. That shadow hunter can't watch his back. AND seriously, that troll regeneration is a myth.

[@ZanAzoth]

"Why didn't she do that at the beginning" Because she's cocky. Because she was so sure she'd have a complete, unphased victory. She was positive that this would kill the rebellion, and crush their hopes of defeating her. And when she got hit, something she completely unexpected, she lost composure.

[@ZanAzoth]

@Terror How can you watch Sylvanas ever and think she's not cocky? That's the personality Blizzard has given her for quite some time now. And that was the point of Saurfang's rant while slicing at her, that despite her efforts and cockiness, she keeps failing. You can even see her losing her smugness while he was telling her so, and the slice across her face lost her composure completely.

[@michalvalta5231]

Yeah, she is extremely unstable wacko... That's why she commited suicide in WotLK when she found out Arthas was killed by someone else. (One of her Valkyrs sacrificed herself to ressurect her.) She is emotionally a child.

[@saitouhajime3]

@@michalvalta5231 I mean her existence to herself until Arthas's death was to get revenge on him and kill him. She didn't get it. When Arthas brought her back as a banshee, he brought back that anger and hatred that existed inside of her living being.

[@isiahsheppard7620]

2:57 “This sword is bad luck.” Why is that so true😂

[@paularmstrong1354]

Not really, shalamayne is a badass legendary and varian tore shit up with it in the stories. But Same could be said about gorehowl or doomhammer

[@loreaver3882]

Swords are whores they get used up by multiple people

[@ChouhouinNeko]

Sylvanas: "Horde is nothing" forsaken solider: am i a joke to you my lady?

[@pwpqwq7648]

Forsaken soldier: Bruh

[@imphinite6957]

Shouldn't have gone Fury spec for PVP bro.

[@naquan59]

in duels in you do.

[@Corswain]

I think he was just old spec.

[@lancercool1992]

he changed spec mid fight

[@jakubsupa1499]

@@lancercool1992 no, he was dual wielding from the start

[@gwiibear4875]

Maybe Sylvanas shouldn't have used poisoned daggers and dark magic in a mak'gora that is supposed to be melee only, but she's a shit and arse just like Gul'dan, so.

[@herpderp1750]

"why should I accept your challenge?" Because we don't have the time/budget and resources to animate a full scale LOTR-esque war.

[@Ti7Vk3y]

You're not wrong XD

[@alandis9582]

Herp Derp they probably do lol but I get the joke

[@donnacanavan3918]

Shallamayne was varian's sword which actually separated for an orc. Big gesture blizz !!!!

[@sigma1003]

And what does that “gesture” mean?

[@nicojs2413]

@@sigma1003 he is a true warrior

[@kevinvanhove5834]

Timothee Chalamet?

[@Dfeneck]

Jon Thunder The sword only splits for true warriors I think.

[@sigma1003]

Daniel Feneck Oh, thanks for the info, mate ;) So neither Varian or Anduin are true warriors?

[@christinaify]

This is what I LOVE about Asmond's reactions. He's jaded as fuck, is irritated by Sylvanas's bullshit path and the way Blizz is handling a lot of it. And yet....and yet...@6:19 that smile. That damn smile.

[@ratemal7748]

"Breaking the cycle" By having the Horde and Alliance team up against Garrosh 2.0. Yeah

[@leyron8393]

In 2 expansions we will have garrosh 3.0 after another actually successful warchief dies tripping over a stone and breaking his neck. Can't wait to see how the horde panda becomes a crazed warlord

[@ratemal7748]

@@leyron8393 Don't worry, It will all work out when they make another time-shift and bring burning legion again.

[@karlstrud8351]

as the plot already leaked weeks ago and everything is true since now, we can assume that no, she won't be a garrosh 2.0

[@AQ-nr2el]

@@ratemal7748she said "Breaking the wheel"

[@linoftw]

He died to prevent a battle

[@BDSL]

Its weird that so many people dont realize this.

[@ch0tchytc374]

To a brutal 1 shot macro.

[@BooguyTheAdept]

@@BDSL I think they do, they just don't tell it because there is no reason.

[@godzilla2k26]

Or save Blizzard CG cost.

[@mex0nn]

He died so Horde could see sylvanas’s true face, no forsaken will stand together with sylvanas now

[@veggiemitegames9044]

'Why didnt she just do that at the start" Because its a mak'gora, my sweet summer child

[@Yondur1]

it's comments like that makes me feel he isn't a real wow fan sometimes

[@Brandon-yd3rk]

@@Yondur1 lmao are u stupid. Bc if shes going to cheat anyways why not cheat from the start. It was a side comment he made as a joke. Hes more of a fan then both of yall put together. So fuck off

[@taotao1092]

Iso Pelican no u

[@Yondur1]

@@Brandon-yd3rk u mad?

[@eltioputo]

bc she is a sadistic bitch

[@Masterwar15]

Sylvanas: FOR THE HORDE! Also Sylvanas: THE HORDE IS NOTHING!

[@leyron8393]

Best writing, must be inspired by GoT season 8

[@galdrek7600]

@@leyron8393 made my day hahaha

[@codymatrix1995]

huh wow its almost like its possible for an undead dark ranger who is literally fueled by hate and anger to lie. who would've thought?

[@Masterwar15]

@@codymatrix1995 Hate and anger towards what? Her main reason to live was killing Arthas, now the only thing keeping her alive is not wanting to experience what she felt when she tried to kill herself again, she has absolutely nobody to hate, and she still has feelings for her sisters.

[@darkermarker2732]

FOR THE HORDE THAT IS NOTHING!

[@eskaban_edits_beats_and_more]

i love asmons passion for wow. getting all happy when theres a new big cinematic. he truly loves the franchize. it fills his life. it lifts him up

[@tatrandillia9976]

Horde is nothing later nothing lasts so horde lasts yea sylvanas good

[@TheHorreK2]

Remember Sylvanas die hard fans yelling "She does everything for the horde, shes the good one!" ? Good times

[@sigma1003]

She's the good one.

[@AnnaJo2000]

@@sigma1003 She's the stupid one.

[@Portulak007]

Tbh from the beginning I didnt rly like her. She was overrated and edgy af. Only boys chose her as their favourite character. True man stood behind Andiun since Vanilla, since he was a kiddo back then and our characters grew up with him up to the point where he became the Highking and we his Champion. Sylvanas on the other hand was always this edgy "I dO It AlL FoR ThE FoRsAkEn CuZ NoBoDy LikEs Me. My StUpId AcTiOns ArE JuStiFiEd No MaTtEr I Do CuZ I hAvE A ReAsOn hurr durr" Bansheequeen

[@sigma1003]

AnnaJo2000 Anduin the baby king is the stupid one.

[@Portulak007]

@@sigma1003 Nah he is fine. He ist just a little bit too much Mary Sue

[@xXSinForLifeXx]

“Wtf she flies” My favourite comment from the twitch chat haha. It was so random and as I read it I laughed my ass of.

[@Vhite]

Number of interesting Horder characters left: 0

[@sigma1003]

Yeah, and all because of Alliance’s crybabies.

[@XAntssX]

Still waiting to see how the lore with thrall, sylvanas and nathanos for example goes.

[@leyron8393]

@@XAntssX nathanos probably got killed before the cinematic... Cant have strong horde characters defying the alliance nowadays

[@rRekko]

@@leyron8393 You mean, defying the alliance wahmen and their less-than-manly crybaby king.

[@sigma1003]

Greta Thunberg ist scheiße Oh well, I see you're butthurt. Only TRUTH can make you butthurt, so... Yeah, we have crybabies, but nothing compared to Alliance's crybabies. 😢 Ey Blizz, Horde are the bad ones, kill them and make them the villains, forever

[@eccentricity00]

"we dont get to hide" tanks unite!

[@utku3340]

they are more like aggro bitch dps specs, both fury and enha

[@imnotasfunnyasithink4970]

There is absolutely no reason that all cut scenes can't be this beautiful. This was scary how good this looked. It was actually like a movie.

[@mr.cookiecutter]

Stuff this detailed takes a RIDICULOUS amount of work to make. A full movie of this would be like triple the time and budget of even the biggest animated films. I would love to see way more cutscenes in wow, but sadly making them all in this style would be an almost impossible feat. More like this, sure. But there's no way they can all be this quality.

[@kidren50]

@@mr.cookiecutter They should have at least one at this quality for each expansion; or maybe 2, 1 for the beginning and one for the ending.

[@mellun]

you trying to do your ram challenge for Brewfest on the left side and Saurfang Sylvanas fight on your way cmon man i need those tolkens

[@Proteus2905]

She didn't use her magic in the beginning because she was absolutely certain of her victory. But Saurfang was about something else. He told Anduin during their meeting in the dungeon of Stormwind. He said "What I want is my horde back!" He knew that he would not be able to win by force of arms, but he could use her ego to achieve his real goal. It worked. In her anger, Sylvanas revealed how she really thought about the horde. When she realized that the old orc warrior had outwitted her, she struck back in the only way she had left. With the death of Varok Saurfang.

[@thorveim1174]

also she wanted to win it honorably, to follow the tradition as the horde demands... this didnt matter anymore once she ditched the horde though, so she just ended it swiftly before leaving.

[@WestonTeli]

Boi got laid out faster than yamcha

[@alucard8433]

Unlike Yamcha though, he landed a blow.

[@kmckinstry]

14:55 you can hear McConnell struggling to keep playing it straight hahaha

[@greightin6913]

"They said they were gonna break the cycle!" Taran Zhu said that in MoP and look where we ended up.

[@michalvalta5231]

Taran Zhu was probably the last cool character added to the lore...

[@robertleelandjob]

Anduin carrying saurfang is like the little kid carrying maximus in gladiator. Also, cant use magic in mok'gorah

[@roppis9258]

Always thought that, but the wiki says that magic isn't prohibited unless specified before the mak'gora

[@Koczu0]

You can use everything unless you made rules... Why people can understand such simple thing? Mok'gorah has no rules unless participant wants it.

[@robertleelandjob]

My bad. Just what i remember.

[@R3cov3ry]

@@Koczu0 it was the WoW movie, pretty much the only thing that people remember from the movie was the Mok'Gorah rules.

[@lukaskonecny9992]

Well she used it after makgora ... She knew she fucked up so she just killed him and flew away.

[@IrekosGames]

When Anduin is carrying Sarufang, you can see his Fathers face expression... My god hes so mad

[@JasperDD]

Sylvanas is just rerolling as a shadow preist! Little does she know the nerf is inc.!

[@mex0nn]

Letsplaylikechamps I just started rolling to shadow from disc, no pls

[@omologo95]

N-no pls no nerf Shadow Priest is the only dps spec I find fun

[@Alexandoas]

Love how salty that guy gets when yes, Saurfang had to die because that’s what he wanted, he knew he could not win but he sure as hell could turn the horde against sylvanus

[@HydrengeaEdelweiss]

Random chat : (see Sylv) My Queen

[@neo6492]

The people saying 'Rez Him' LMAOOOOO

[@kolosmenus]

Are they breaking the cycle the same way they did during the Third War? And the Lich King? And Cataclysm? And Legion?

[@riceball23]

I knew they were going to kill him off from the start. He's too good of a character and him being warchief would have been to "clean."

[@justinerickson282]

Still hurts to see my favorite character die. RIP Saurfang.

[@bltpgermany1151]

Sylvannas is like Bolvar... "The world of the living can no longer comfort me."

[@tworley210]

The chill down your spine when Aragorn approaches the gates of Mordor. Such a moment.

[@Azraell01]

Balled my eyes out every time I have seen this. Saurfang is a hero. A legend. One the horde very much needed. And one I would have followed to hell and back. Saurfang is the Horde. Sylvanas is nothing but a blight upon the world and upon the Horde. I hope she gets everything that is coming to her and then some. She is no better then the Burning Legion or the Lich King.

[@vuhieu9223]

This is like Durotan vs Guldan in the movie

[@leeroland5241]

i said the same thing. it was just missing the orc that yelled out that she cheated. lmao

[@al3onx934]

*Lor’themar watching this fight from afar: A Sith LORD??!

[@GregFries]

McConnell is right. Saurfang was the best Horde leader. We were there when he lost his son at the Wrath Gate. He was our reinforcements on the suicide mission to stop the undead in Borean Tundra. And he was there many times before. His name was High Overlord Varok Saurfang.

[@nationlessnationalist]

We are going to break the cycle and do nothing but pick flowers together for 2 years of tbe next xpac.

[@MrTaylork1]

The leftist anti-war care bears will be thrilled.

[@Goujiki]

@@Shofixi Americans love war, and guns, and killing people. Its the American way

[@nationlessnationalist]

@@Goujiki war hasn't been popular among most Americans since Nam but our evil government does love war.

[@alu1609]

Saurfang died, so... Shadowlands is true?

[@migueltucabron]

I am starting to really believe it but still we don´t really know how we get there and what´s it´s really all about. The leaks been pretty vague about the upcoming content itself.

[@daltonnelson94]

Yep. Seige of Stormwind in 8.3. Comic about sylvanas invading stormwind coming out in october. Shadowlands announced at blizzcon.

[@godzilla2k26]

So we can get Arthas back!

[@wingzero1372]

@@daltonnelson94 siege of stormwind with what forces !? Lol war is over there is no feint invasion at TB. It's not looking to hot for the leak

[@daltonnelson94]

@@wingzero1372 Sylvanas has had here eyea on stormwind. It is candid lore.

[@12deathguard]

Saurfang is a traitor and sylvanus is our warchief.

[@levferno483]

Saurfang went out like a boss. True warrior right there.

[@karlsteeves8116]

Asmon smiling is way better than him ranting and being angry. He reminds me what its like to be giddy as a child.

[@touchingisjustthefirststep]

Dude they dueled right in front of Org like the rest of us do.™️

[@MrJengaa]

stolen comment

[@touchingisjustthefirststep]

@@MrJengaa Can't you see the trademark?

[@MrJengaa]

@@touchingisjustthefirststep Oh my bad, Dude they dueled right in front of Org like the rest of us do.™️™️

[@touchingisjustthefirststep]

@@MrJengaa That's not how that works.

[@MrJengaa]

@@touchingisjustthefirststep No one can stop me by putting a trademark upon a trademark, it makes it more legit

[@nationlessnationalist]

All this horde of horde violence needs to end.

[@deadlymixx]

I believe you just witnessed the end bro.

[@akhsdenlew1861]

i am pretty sure that this is how it ends...

[@folonrng]

Horde lifes matter

[@TheOnlyGhxst]

@MrGuvnah Minorities matter too bro.

[@kimichiii875]

Sylvanas was never a part of the horde.

[@tommyarnold890]

Thrall brought back to save the Horde...again. And then he will leave... again. Bain elevated to Warchief, leads the "New Horde" into an everlasting peace with the Alliance, thus breaking the cycle. Sylvanis is end game boss, but at the end just before she dies the Lich King shows up to "reclaim his property". Next expansion: Horde and Alliance flower picking adventure

[@oliverjames6405]

Tommy Arnold or third faction

[@fudgefudge8913]

@@oliverjames6405 I was thinking the same thing.. if they make horde/alli one side, and a new faction.. ok.. or.. they just let you choose if you want to play one faction or the other with any race.. so instead of race vs race, it would be ideology vs ideology.

[@datpixiegirl1920]

I really don't want Baine to be made warchief, because that means he will either die or become an evil psychopath...

[@XbninjaXIV]

Sylvanas isnt going to be the end game boss, itll be N'zoth. She wishes to beat death and control it, she is going to be killed by the Old God

[@ShinigamiSamaH]

Saurfang: "1v1 no rez."

[@rockycheng7929]

5:08 the hordes duel of honor "Mak'gora", magic is not allowed in the fight, thats why she didnt do it first

[@andrewtaylor940]

Is it just me, or did we somehow lose the whole “the Planet is dying from the sword stuck in it, oh and the Lovecraftian old gods are still making trouble.” Thread? As usual?

[@rRekko]

We completely did, this expansion was supposed to be all about how the corruption is spreading because of the sword, then it went to "oh the planet is dying from the sword" and then "oh but you hero, you can level up this necklace Azeroth gave you in order to heal the planet, so this isn't an issue anymore because our writers suck, let's also forget to give any hint to what the fuck is sylvannas planning, it's not like the Forsaken are driven by their ambitions and will do anything to accomplish what they want, having her ditch the horde entirely". Let's not forget the alliance still see the forsaken as impure beings, as if they were sinful in nature, so are they gonna let them live or are they going to purify them? I mean, they'll have to forgive them for sure somehow, even though they didn't forgive Sylvannas for becoming an undead when she tried to return to the alliance, and they still thought till the very end, that Arthas was acting of his own will and had betrayed them. Blizzard has had horrible writing for a long while.

[@drudle]

@@rRekko It's almost like the story has multiple facets to it. And discovering one thing can lead to other things. That's called good storytelling. You're essentially going, "Wow, why are these human kingdoms fighting in Gondor? Isn't this whole book about delivering the ring to Mordor? This Tolkien guy is shitty." The storyline never was about the corruption of the sword. That was stopped by our artifacts. The corruption ended before BFA even really started. The story began with the Azerite mining as a two fold issue: it was basically the planet bleeding to death AND its properties made it valuable. Both can be a plot point at the same. We have one thread of "we need to heal the planet of these Azerite wounds" and another thread of "we need to stop the other side from abusing these wounds." The whole N'Zoth debacle was a direct result from the former with current conflict being the latter (although we may see less conflict between sides now). As far as undead go, they ARE an affront to the natural order. As far as what the Alliance plans to do? Who knows. They seem cool with Light based Undead so there's that option, possibly. Sometimes people change their opinions on things. That's pretty human. All of your points of it being bad writing are pretty weak. It just sounds like you aren't able to grasp multiple plot points. I take it you only liked Blizzard's writing when it was like "Horde attack with big axe! Alliance no like!" or something. But now you're like, "Woah woah, we have several threads going on at once? Characters grow and change their dispositions? New threats arise and need to be confronted? Bad writing!!"

[@drudle]

Andrew, what are you talking about? Literally we JUST had a patch about both your points. The current raid (Eternal Palace) is about N'Zoth and Azerite being abused to free him (which, ya know, is still actively hurting the planet.) None of these threads are lost. They're both currently being addressed. We have N'Zoth/Azshara as one thread this expansion and Sylvanas as another. Both are ongoing.

[@rRekko]

@@drudle lots of open ends, no focus, convenient development her, there, everywhere. That's the bad writing. The corruption spread by the sword was supposed to be the thing killing Azeroth, yet plot device necklace somehow got rid of it, even though they announced we'd be fighting that corruption they had a sudden change of mind and now the world really isn't dying. We never did any quests to "close the world's wounds", we just had a few wq and we were collecting all the azerite we could to use it in the war, yet it was never really used in the main plot, it was just a convenient side fact never really explored just to have that roulette power up added. The old gods trying to mess up with Azeroth was again, not really explored because fanboys hated blizzard for coming up with the old gods yet again, and even then, it was but a minor thing. It's like they were testing the waters with every single idea, not focusing on anything and jumping from one idea to the other because they couldn't come up with a compelling plot. LOTR wasn't about sending the ring to Mordor dude, it was about trying to stop Sauron from resurrecting to stop a world ending war. The author knew how to properly link all the events and develop the factions. LOTR and WoW can't be compared at all. Also, like I said, Blizzard has had really bad storytelling for a while, the first 2 Warcraft games, are an example of not really interesting plot, while Warcraft 3 and TFT had some nice developments and nothing was really wasted, hence why the story of WoW up to WotLK was actually good, because it had good source material, as for the rest, well, MoP had somewhat decent story and Legion had a really nice plot. Who knows, perhaps the next xpac will have decent or good story again? Since WotLK good, Cataclysm bad, MoP decent, WoD literally what?, Legion good, BfA bad.

[@wilhelmschmidt3715]

@@rRekko But we did get rid of the swords corruption PRIOR to BfA, it was the reason why our artifacts cant be used anymore. BfA was intially an expansion about FACTION WAR, not old-gods. Literally noone said that the expansion would be about the corruption of the sword, since its not here anymore. Noone said that the expansion would focus around old gods (even though it does to a certain extend). It was all about the war campaign, the azerite mining, Sylvanas going bonkers. Did you even play the last two expansions?

[@Lance880]

Her magic was a cloud of dark shadowy haze, not unlike the initial cinematic where N'zoth revealed himself.. void.

[@marcusc9931]

Or a black cloud thing she'd always had for being a banshee

[@sves_16]

its shadow not void... theres a huge difference.

[@jakopflatekval6922]

so being able to "choose" to be in the rebellion or with sylvanas was just a illusion and shes gonna get stabbed in the next raid no matter what, how fun.....

[@Overphased]

I mean, it's an MMO, with only one canon.

[@Overphased]

@@darkduprey4079 ok, you see, when talking about multiple choice and different endings I always think of bioware games, at least the older ones, and I don't see how in an MMO setting that is achievable, and if it's not, what's the point in even trying? Anyways, can you give me examples of those other MMOs that you were talking about please?

[@XAntssX]

Check the sylvanas loyalist cinematic and use your brain.

[@saadomar001]

There is only one way to stab Sylvanas. Giggity.

[@drudle]

@@darkduprey4079 I'm curious because I haven't played an MMO since EQ back in the day but which MMO and what choices? Were they choices that fractured the storyline depending how you played it? What I mean is, if your choice here was meaningful, did an MMO do something similar where you would have gone off with Sylvanas or not?

[@thelucien3351]

“Why didn’t she just do that at the start?” Me: 🙄🙄🙄

[@funkmaster4040]

I know right, she asks him why she should fight him he says to make me suffer she then gets her daggers and injures him when she clearly could have killed him to make him suffer and humiliate him. How much clearer could Blizzard have made it that she was toying with him for her own sick amusement? If she wanted him dead quickly she could have loaded him with arrows from the wall when he stepped out alone.

[@Selgino]

Magic or spells are not allowed in a madgora, actually no weapon should be allowed only bear hands

[@maximoo352]

@@funkmaster4040 ye magic isn't allowed and instant death is instant relief from suffering, you want someone to suffer? maim them and have them watch their own self failure, which was her plan but ofc she failed

[@rhadhamanthysofthewyvernst6206]

@@Selgino Actually PArtially truth, you can use Weapons blessed by Shammans or Priests... remember Cairne vs Garrosh

[@thelucien3351]

Maximoo I realize that. That’s why I’m rolling my eyes at what he said.👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

[@shmeeps9605]

For everyone wondering how sylvannas got so powerful, she has the power of inclusion.

[@kalamander8563]

Orc in the background “SYLVANAS CHEATS!”

[@TheDutchMusician]

too bad to see my 2 favorite characters fighting each other :c you will be missed Saurfang

[@stephenmitana]

“The battlegrounds are gonna be kinda awkward now..” *add to elongate awkward realization*

[@Geminias]

Do you mind explaining this? I don't play and I didn't understand the reference.

[@viking8796]

Geminias Horde and Alliance are working together in the lore, but still butchering each other in battlegrounds.

[@xBadMarlboro]

Sylvanas vs. saurfang is the best cinematic ever created

[@rickywyness5230]

When you realise that Saurfang is probably in the Maw...

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

mconnal salty about his death when it was implied throughout the entire expansion that he would die

[@Obsidianen]

The *TING TING* is the best moment of this scenematic! xD

[@TheMikelovebx]

You can't use magic in a Mok Ghora, right? She cheated??

[@TheSnyarn]

yes she did

[@ddeathguardhumbertfan11]

That's the point

[@rubberducky27]

Yes, she cheated. Thats why they turned on her and she yeeted outta there

[@spookishookem8313]

Yes. Magic isn’t allowed in a Mak’gora. Her cheating also exposed her, even after she said the Horde was nothing.

[@seancampbell6292]

Magic is not forbidden in Mok Gorah, in The Bloodsworn, both opponents used magic, and it was considered fair.

[@arthamosssg]

ok Asmon if you do not know Mak'garoth (pretty sure I just butchered that lol) is a challenge of skill for the next leader of the horde by death. You are not allowed to use spells or powers during the fight. Her using that spell a the end automatically disqualifies her as the war-chief and must step down or face death by the horde.

[@constipation4650]

Sylvans: "The Horde is nothing" Forsaken FlagHolder: *Am i a joke to you?*

[@18Dominick]

So does this mean orcs in SW? and Humans in Org?

[@mauriceanderson5413]

Dominick M inb4 “serious crimes skyrocket by 200% in Stormwind, humans are to blame”

[@MrMGR1986]

Maurice Anderson lmao

[@adomaster123]

Maurice Anderson that's actually racist to orcs. They're not criminals lmao.

[@CSProduction12]

Why didn't he just run back from the GY?

[@BeyondDaX]

Because in cannon death is permanent

[@alucard8433]

@@BeyondDaX Tell that to the undead.

[@jjp002]

Ya foreal it's like right there

[@hehaw4147]

His boyfriend Anduin could have just res'd him like he res'd his army in the last cinematic. He must be cheating on him with Thrall.

[@Leopoldshark]

The Lich King: I could use a fifth Horseman.

[@gorgonzolacola]

Saurfang never believed in destiny, but he believed in hope. He believed that nothing is unchangeable as long as we try. That hope- that belief is what makes a hero out of any man. In orcish, such heroism has a name: Lok'Narad. Though there is no exact translation for it, it roughly resembles one word. Legendary. THAT is his title, his glory. And I ask of you.. That you do one thing.. HONOR HIIIIIIIM!

[@ShadowNyte96]

I understood that reference

[@TheOnlyGhxst]

Saurfang is aight... still like Sylvanas more though.

[@Zeiretto]

You can actually see Asmon's neck turn red with excitement as the video progresses, haha. Amazing cinematic.