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[@Ostsol]

There's a video about a castle that's under construction in France using medieval technology. It's called Guédelon Castle. The project was started twenty-five years ago and is still going. It's well worth watching.

[@bentoomet8805]

Holy shit when I went to France I visited that Castle. It was an actual tourist attraction. The people who are working on it dedicate their free time and some even their jobs to build it. I went in 2015, they said it’s expected to take about 30 more years if they can recruit 5 more part-time workers. That would be if they could replace the workers that get older and can’t work anymore. Would 10/10 recommend,I’m not sure if they still do it, but the actual workers ran it to raise money and show you exactly how they’re building it.

[@masonmcconnell9375]

asmongold watched a video about that and reacted i think

[@Blazuchan]

Yes indeed. Asmon and McConnell watched it and expressing genuine interest of it.

[@pottyputter05]

Yes I love this one

[@Dbswrath]

I've seen a documentary on this in 2012 they said it would be done in 2025 lmao

[@xDOLPHINTV]

I think what bothers me is that the OG primitive technology just wanted to demonstrate how shit was made back then and he gets overshadowed by these outrageous and obviously fake builds, and it ends up delegitimizing the actual builds

[@supergobgoblin424]

Is because they are funded by goverment to obscure people from the knowledge to keep people dependant

[@supergobgoblin424]

Taxes are theft...m to the b the IRS

[@Cwyan-wv1hj]

@@supergobgoblin424 ...sir please remove the tinfoil hat.

[@DustySquitoNM]

That dude is fucking amazing. Same caption system, same amazing cargo shorts, and he’s about to enter the fucking Iron Age.

[@mrbuttocks6772]

Thing is, he's one dude doing all of this. During the era where that stuff was' cutting edge' you had groups of people of around 20-50 or so working together for just about everything.

[@dustinryckman5118]

Perfect example is someone building an entire town in Minecraft on CREATIVE MODE, but then passing it along like it was made in SURVIVAL MODE

[@dollface2907]

the community built cities online to download are amazing, with minecraft ive notice for big projects the world edit is alright on some and not others though

[@yummychips_]

Thats why the OGs who keep doing lets play of their decade old world, are so respected. Unfortunately, with how MC content is so fast and modded now, its really hard to compete for lets plays. Fakers who flex they built X thing, while playing in survival doesn't even mean much anymore. Most would just say they are faking or wasted their time.

[@rebekahvasquez1464]

@@yummychips_ Shit, one of my faves gets crap about his builds being fake, but he streams every second of the builds on twitch.

[@killerclone2177]

its possible.. will take a huge ass time but its possible

[@_eeveeon_]

God I've built a little village which was basically just a Village I found, that I've upgraded and terraformed and of course my house and that alone took FOREVER in Survival... some survival builds are absolutely insane but sadly alot are fake albeit still impressive

[@yutheasum4704]

As a Cambodian who watches Asmongold very regularly, I really appreciate that these so-called "primitive" content creators get called out. Honestly, they are cancerous to the overall contents that we watch online. On KZbin, it is THAT bad. On Facebook, it is x100 times worse. Unfortunately, the bad guys happen to have beaten the algorithms.

[@trielt1]

The algorithms were built FOR the bad guys.

[@christophercampa6777]

Yes. It would be a good content if they actually built this stuff instead of cheating.

[@DeathnoteBB]

They didn’t “beat” the algorithm. This is what the algorithm promotes already.

[@AC3handle]

Facebook: where truth goes to die.

[@user-ix7es4iw8b]

As a cambodian, I don't judge the copy cats because our people are struggling over there. If they found a way to feed their families then more power to them.

[@Youssless]

I'm EXTREMELY disappointed in the US educational system. Not one of my history teachers discussed the 1500 B.C. Waterpark system that primitive man created.

[@DevilSaturn966]

You're actually the problem

[@RTFManuel]

@@DevilSaturn966 please elaborate

[@dixiemaiztergogo5520]

they are under the pyramids

[@gamingmoyai3950]

@@DevilSaturn966 no really, elaborate.

[@thepcfd]

@@gamingmoyai3950 probalby roman aquaducts.

[@Westeroni3]

As someone who has dug fighting holes with government shovels that kept breaking, rocks and roots are a huge factor. Nothing is worse than having to dig a six foot deep hole in hard clay mixed with rocks and roots.

[@christophercampa6777]

Amen to that. Some of the hardest work I've done was digging pits for pools and digging trenches for pipes.

[@ODDnanref]

Why dog six foot deep holes? What was the job?

[@totalfreedom2408]

If you actually want to dig a big hole in those conditions I can't tell you how useful a pickaxe is

[@Westeroni3]

@@ODDnanref Fighting holes for defensive positions. You dig down so that you can stand in the hole "Comfortably" while providing yourself and your buddy enough cover. Ideally it will protect you from IDF, tanks can even drive over your hole without it caving in. Digging these holes suck ass.

[@ODDnanref]

@@Westeroni3 Ohhh Makes sense. I asked as my mind went to a more six feet under grim reference.

[@kuhnandreas5694]

Well everyone who had to actually dig a hole by themselves would know that these videos are staged. It's way harder than it looks and it takes much longer than you might think. The ground becomes much harder a few feed into the earth, often with roots and stones that make it way harder. Also the earth is much more condensed, so there will be a lot of rubble to move away. That's why there's always a small hill when you shovel the stuff back in to close the hole. The amount of digging in these videos with just hand tools and with 2 guys would takes months.

[@Rhodair]

yeah so many seem to just envision nothing but dirt all the way down, but you're very quickly dealing with all sorts of other crap

[@orkaydk9430]

@@minecraftminer59mineboymin38 I care lmao

[@andrew-rn9ui]

Fr people think digging is as easy as looney tunes, those same people will stand their and tell you the pyramids were built with primitive technology and believe it wholeheartedly like it's such a massive impossibility it would have taken thousands of years to build them with primitive methods based on where the quarry is and how many stones there were and how fast we could move 2 million multi tonne stones over 500 miles and across a river 😂

[@jackode7923]

@@andrew-rn9uiGoogle dragging and buoyancy. Oh and with buoyancy since you are smart just plug in the mass of what you want to float and what else and see how how you would float it. Oh and for how they dragged them up search up pyramid dragging model or scaffolding and see a recreation. Just do your own research. Hell, use your own bathtub to test the physics. Drag a weighed object across the floor, see if the formulas work. TLDR: Test things, confirm for yourself.

[@hunterkinsella5303]

​@@andrew-rn9uiSo you do believe that the pyramids were made using technology of the time, right? Cause that is correct.

[@victoriazero8869]

The OG Primitive Technology man wouldn't be out of place in my village 20 years ago. That's why he's so believable. Most of his technique, we SEA villagers still damn use right this second. We just made it more efficient and mass producible.

[@anthonysmith6413]

Without having seen the Video yet. What gave it away for me was as a former soldier I know how exhausting digging a small hole in the forest is. Digging a giant pit is not only a month long endeavour it's also so damn exhausting that the likelyhood to get injured will get significant. So you would need several months to dig such holes without risiking destroying your body. But no one can tell me a good rainstorm won't destroy this hypothetical several months long Project in a blink of an eye. So they must've found a way to shorten the time frame significantly to not have that happen. But this is like I said not possible without destroying your Body in the process.

[@wiseferret4745]

I am a dwarf and I'm digging a hole. Diggy diggy hole. Digging a hole.

[@chartreux1532]

+Anthony Smith Exactly. I served 6 Years with the 231. Gebirgsjägerbattalion of the 23. Gebirgsjägerbrigade of the Bundeswehr (Now just help training as Reservist) and while we are specialized on Mountain Warfare, this also includes a lot of Forest Warfare and digging a lot in all kinds of Temperatures and Terrain. So even the most optimal kind of Soil to dig would be insane with the "Tools" you see in these Videos. Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps

[@anthonysmith6413]

@@chartreux1532 Horrido Kamerad

[@chartreux1532]

@@anthonysmith6413 Dir auch Horrido Kamerad!

[@nef36]

Bro why are words randomly capitalized

[@haoxun835]

Even if its private land, some of those holes with steep walls looks like a deadly trap for small animals to me.

[@Spore6001]

100%

[@PrincessofKeys]

if there is a way out I don't see a problem, I think animals can benefit from it if you ask me

[@tommenno]

@@PrincessofKeys lots of those builds do not have an easy way out. The pool ones can be even worse if they actually concreted the things.

[@haoxun835]

@@PrincessofKeys Until its partially collapsed and or filled with water. Smaller animals will drown in there.

[@tommenno]

@Brah its the jungles, so more like deer-based animals that have trouble swimming or even just birds. the pools would also be massive mosquito breeding grounds, spreading god knows what too.

[@bigmacdoubleyouv]

I built forts as a kid too. Thinking about how that seems to be naturally ingrained into our DNA as a kid without any outside input is pretty interesting, how a blind freshly born puppy immediately seeks out its mother or something.

[@xenn4985]

Better comparison would be beavers having an instinctual urge to block water

[@Quadrenaro]

We yearn for the mines. Therefore, we dug.

[@wolfetteplays8894]

Ancestral DNA

[@Schlohmotion]

Every group that lived in a continent that is subject to seasonal changes just diedout, if they didn't built constructions.

[@LePoetKing]

The human instinct to make civilization, it is actualy pretty interesting.

[@DeathnoteBB]

8:47 In my opinion them hiring an architect is one of the least surprising things. Even if it was legit, building a big structure you kind of _need_ an architect to make sure the building is stable. Also, I might be wrong, but I think an architect can just be the person on your build team who knows enough to make sure the building is structurally sound. Doesn’t mean an official, clipboard-holding person. The Primitive Technology would be their own architect, for instance.

[@Beedso]

Primitive technology is legit, my professor even used his videos to cite methods that ancient civilizations used for development

[@DeathnoteBB]

Yeah they say that within the first minute

[@jsonkody]

Who say it's not? What is the purpose of your comment?

[@Beedso]

@@one_eyeddd473 yes because a college professor at a private university would use illegitimate videos for lectures in anthropology all the time…imagine being a contrarian

[@Beedso]

@@jsonkody it’s a comment, the purpose of a comment is self explanatory: to comment🤭

[@Beedso]

@@DeathnoteBB never said they didn’t, just using a personal anecdote that’s all

[@note4note804]

The biggest issue for me was never the digging, it was moving the material. Even with the exhausting effort of doing something like a drainage ditch with hand tools, the problem isn't that you're digging up the soil, it's that without a wheelbarrow you're having to physically carry that weight off site with hundreds of trips.

[@reves3333]

is basicly the same as having a fake work out video.

[@gaminggladiator06]

I always knew it was BS when they did stuff like “we built a pool” or “building a 2 story house.” What people like this tend to forget is the realm of reality where you have to remember that all this is supposed to be done with sticks and sharpened rocks. Just looking at the thumbnails is enough to call them on their bull.

[@DustDevilJones]

12:37 I'm glad that this was mentioned because I've only ever heard my dad talk about it. The soil is extremely different. That's how the vast endless tunnel systems were created in the Vietnam war.

[@forensic_bones185]

the best primitive "concrete" is clay. clay mixed with water and sticks and that is then dried ( like really dried/baked) makes a pretty good bind. this is how Pueblos were made.

[@SoulTouchMusic93]

Clay, water and hay. That's how my grandparent's house was built. We refurbed it and couldn't drive a nail in that shit for the life of me.

[@eredaane4656]

problem with that can be that it is very much dependant on dry climate to keep it standing, in wet climate, clay+straw/sticks+water needs repair after every rainseason and is not water proof (or moisture proof)

[@SoulTouchMusic93]

@@eredaane4656 you don't just leave it as is, you whitewash it!

[@shok24199]

Primitive Technology is so good because every build feels like something anyone could copy with enough time and the right environment.

[@liamspruyt]

i know american don't particularly like the french but if you go to france there's a castle made entirely with primitive tools around that era. its awesome! i went there multiple times! (besides the lifts for highering stuff being reinforced for safety purpose) but they have iron workers making tools actually getting the stones out of the ground and carving them out! making clothes and the likes! its absolutely dope

[@chasemathis2016]

Many Americans love France. People like me haven't forgotten what they did for us in the early stages of our country. Also, they have a hell of a small arms industry.

[@liamspruyt]

well they and the dutch seem the most american. @@chasemathis2016

[@wolfetteplays8894]

Bruh, americans have been bedfellows with the french for a long ass time, the french was one of the main countries that helped us gain independence.

[@liamspruyt]

i only ever hear americans complain about them. if not the british the french. @@wolfetteplays8894

[@en4833]

@@liamspruyt Most of that is just jokes. Most Americans don't actually dislike the french.

[@l1z4rdon7]

Especially with these builds being in a “jungle” tree roots are a massive problem. Tree roots are incredibly strong. There was a tree root dislocating a sprinkler in front of my parents house. Me and my grandma went to cut the root out with a small hand saw to get access to the sprinkler. The section of root was about the size of your hand and it took 2 hours to try and get it out. We had my grandpa come with a small buzz saw to cut it out eventually lol. Gotta think about grass roots too. Digging those out are a pain sometimes.

[@Frostshokula]

16:00 Primitive refers to an early stage of technological development, not just because it is old. It also implies it is simple. If we gave ants a spaceship, it would not be primitive ant tech 10,000 years from now, assuming ants don’t evolve like crazy lol. It would be advanced human tech that just happen to be near ants.

[@pencilbender]

Wat

[@muhammadaminrais23]

Yeah primitif doesnt mean old or ancient. Like in sentinel island are inhabitated by primitif people and still using primitif technology.

[@shadowdragon8168]

I don't think the Cyprien video was fake. He shows himself using tools and stuff to build the hut, and that hut is a lot less extravagant then the other builds.

[@ominith1]

and you can tell by how often they upload videos

[@wood5241]

Its probably just a mistake by Sunny. His builds are also not that massive compared to the fakes

[@Gamepainter]

When Asmon tells you not to litter you've fucked up

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

The excavation and firemaking are the biggest giveaways. Starting a fire from nothing always starts small, a spark into a fine layer of kindling, blowing the flame to life and wrapping it in more kindling, then very small sticks and twigs, and slowly build up. Even with cabelas flint or fire starters you can’t start a fire pit like that without lighter fluid. No airflow and a huge stack of wood doesn’t just catch fire like that.

[@murphychurch8251]

Another clue is the lack of soil mounds/ excavated earth. Where did it go? It's not just a tiny bit of scattered soil when you dig a hole that deep. As the soil is a lot less dense after excavating, it has a much bigger volume. Suppose you're down in the pit, digging. How do you remove the soil? With your bare hands? You can only throw it just outside the pit, to the side. After a while though, it will pile up and roll back down into the pit. With buckets? That's better, but you have to bring it a lot further away altogether because the mound will be huge. As an archaeologist, I'm used to the planning of where to put the excavated soil but I'm still sometimes surprised at how much soil you get even from a small hole in the ground (not even talking about rocks and roots here).

[@SD78]

With regard to rocks, it's a moist clay soil in a warm climate. I work in construction in Auckland, which is mostly clay. It's very rare to hit rocks unless you're near a mountainside or alluvial riverbed.

[@nawawii3750]

Yeah, I thought the same, the soil is 100% legit, and they can actually dig and have clean cuts with primitive tools in it. And considering how they are digging, finding ricks will actually make their process faster, they would just dig around and then pull and throw away! But they lie about everything else, the mist obvious thing is the time, and number of people

[@chlorophyll6154]

It's not like that in southern asia, mostly full of rock because a lot of places was a hill and river hundred of years ago

[@-The-Golden-God-]

Tell that to the clay soil in my garden that's full of rocks. I found out the hard way when I had to dig a hole.

[@littleboss2006]

Yeah how about the roots? They dig pretty close to tree all the time. That still a lot of works. I personally dig hole a lot near tree, my gid it's a nuisance

[@abcdc197]

Just show the video to any Vietnam Vet and ask them what they think about it...

[@bertnelson4087]

“Ta outdoors” is another great one for anyone looking for something to fill the void. The guy bought a woodland in the UK to build in. In some builds he uses modern materials, and uses tents and stuff but it’s so good and educational as hell.

[@Derploop]

19:37 I mean, this is actually realistic. Generally when you sink a pole for say, a letter box, you just repack the dirt around it and tamp it down with something heavy, even another pole works if it's sufficiently flat and heavy. The depth you're sinking it matters more with regards to keeping it upright in that situaiton. You don't need to concrete something as light as bamboo; you just need something that will set fairly solid around the several feet of sunk pole.

[@NarutoMagicCyclops]

I don't think the realism is in question in particular. It's more the problem the people are claiming it's cement when it's nothing more than water and dirt mixed together, that's the only fake part about it.

[@siruno6024]

You should really the final product to see if some rocks can actually hold that.

[@Ecliptor.]

It was quite funny hearing his assumptions after having watched the video by myself before him, it was much much worse than he thought. I agree with him in that they would still be famous even if they they showed the machinery and were honest about it. Because the buildings are cool enough.

[@nawawii3750]

Yeah, if it were 100% machinery, it's still interesting place to spend a summer day and night inside... When I first ever saw one of these, I thought they were like poor people from this part in Asia, that have the knowledge of their environments, so they dig these and rent to tourists to make money. So it made sense as in, if they dig 8 hours a day, they still making money from this, so it's like they invented a job for themselves. And that they could sustain it at least for few months, so they would really earn something worth all the effort. If they were shown as a small company making these small projects and renting them as well, it would still be impressive place to visit.. The only thing you would miss is the ASMR effect you get from watching the silent guys and all sounds if nature around them, while they work tirelessly to make it ( which contribute to overall views)

[@Persiandre]

The problem isn't that. Is that they abandon those buildings (made in concrete) in the middle of the nowhere

[@rayvg7709]

Then dont be shocked by what I'm about to tell you. A lot of those "animal rescue" videos are also faked. The same animals show up again and again in different videos.

[@Ecliptor.]

@@rayvg7709 Yeah I knew that, unfortunately

[@PineappleBaconPizza]

@@Persiandre the drone footage of how nasty these places look when they are abandoned is just sad. The buildings are all collapsed and they never fill the "pools" with dirt and they leave garbage everywhere. These people are trash

[@greedier-7661]

I immediately thought about the roots when i saw videos like that because i remember working in my family backyard and trying to remove one bush. It took over 30 minutes of ax chopping, shovel digging and using shovel as a lever to remove one giant bush, not even mentioning the stones that were also hidden there. I also had to once dig 1/2 feet deep area when we wanted to make pathway/ parking space for the car it took 2-4 hours as you could hardly find good place to use shovel as there was tons of roots from trees and stones (it was 5m x10m area) Also i believe that if those videos threw away this whole primitive tech and were just simply fun builds in the forest and kept on upgrading one place by adding more and more thing they would be much more enjoyable and would draw in more subscribers. Now they just repeat hole, with water + torches and small room. sometimes adding slide or other small things.

[@nawawii3750]

Imagine if you could visit a well maintained place like this, and could spend a day or a night there! People would pay to rent it, more fun than camping, if they can guarantee your safety

[@greedier-7661]

@@nawawii3750 and imagine that such things already exists as Minecraft let's play, where people sell their worlds, create servers out of them, or simply let other download it.

[@PineappleBaconPizza]

It took me like 2 hours to dig out a 5 foot tree with a shovel and replant it somewhere else. Ain't no way they're doing this shit with sticks

[@disgustof-riley8338]

Get a pick axe

[@spoot8835]

it's just like when pimp my ride from 2004-2007 it came out later that usually everything was only cosmetic, on occasions they'd even get a completely different nearly identical car to "actually" work on.

[@darrens3]

18:00 you can actually make legit primitive concrete using ground wood ash and water. It would've made more sense for them to show that as it's so easy to make. They used it to sometimes set primitive axe heads to handles before binding to ensure more contact to keep the two elements well gripped together when bound.

[@xeros4000]

5:21 Primitive Skills is legit btw. ive been following his every video since start and there are only 2 things he "cheated" : 1st was him buying raw iron ore because, while he has iron deposits around his area, it took him way too much time and effort to gather any useful amount. so he first gathered and smelted iron ore legit once then bought some raw ore for his future videos. 2nd was him buying cement, but again only after showing how to make it from limestone. if he tried to do those things legit, he wouldnt have time to make any videos, he would be a miner. but rest of what he does is inarguably legit since his videos are hours long and he pretty much shows the entire process.

[@xavierescano4559]

which was the buying raw iron ore one? his latest cause i thought the 80 grams of iron came from the 2 buckets of iron bacteria he processed?

[@rustyhowe3907]

Yup he's the only other channel I don't mind at all simply because he shows the process behind it at least.

[@xeros4000]

@@xavierescano4559 talking about primitive "skills" not primitive "technology"

[@raggo1955]

Once I found out this elaborate work is not done by the two guys alone my peak interest ended and I never watched it again. I’m sure it took skills and careful planning for them but I’m not going to be fooled twice. That’s about it. Peace

[@OutdoorsJ]

Yeah Primitive skills a real mothafucka. Rice farming and raising fish.

[@deanm375]

I never gave it much thought but part of me always suspected there was something fake about these videos. Especially the ones that have a teenage gril building all this crap by herself.

[@mariyears]

teenage gril 🤭

[@Muhammad_Nuruddin]

*Teenage gril and teenage buoy*

[@Watamel0n]

I always thought the terrain and soil was very loose compared to my homecountry, because it would be literally impossible to dig out such holes with a couple of sticks here. I had to dig out a lot of foxholes during my military service and it was always an insane amount of labourus work, with modern tools.

[@Shteven]

Ik this comment is old but I just had a random thought. Do soliders have to worry about loose rocks when digging fighting holes as they could become additional projectiles in a blast?

[@BigMeechEJ25]

18:11 "Concrete doesn't grow in a river" Lmao I'm dying, it doesn't grow at all!

[@MrSabioDice]

Bruh.. I’m so in love with this generations ability to catch people in 4K nowadays… It’s just a matter if you want to believe it or not. - we still need work but it ain’t all bad - shout out to the drone dude. 😂

[@slogary4790]

23:10 it's actually a big deal to dig the dirt in this kind of soil, as you said earlier in the video, in Austin, Texas, you get rocks almost immediately as you dig, in thiese kind of tropical soil, you have something like 10 metres/yards (kinda the same length) of dirt with absolutely nothing to stop it from flowing with the next rain. so digging and removing the very thin layer of humus (fertile dirt that allows plants to grow) on such an area is asking for a landslide to occur next rainy season...

[@nathanburgett1599]

I like them too. The ones I watch aren't fake. They are time-lapsed. It shows them building it by hand.

[@Jackie89000]

Those bamboo poles have such perfect cuts because they are industrially cut to a specific length and sanded to a smooth, flat end. That's how they look so cleanly cutm

[@KingMondoWWM]

*I would LOVE to see an OTK survival series* -- I agree, that's an amazing idea. Of course, there'd likely have to be a lot of preparation and maybe some reasonable amount of behind the scenes support to make sure everyone's safe (e.g. the way it is in Survivor). But I think even so, if they're interested in doing that, it would be really fun an entertaining to watch. Maybe it could be filmed like the Shareholders meetings, I think that would be perfect. And with Asmongold leading the members of OTK and helping them survive with limited supplies in the wilderness, this would be golden content.

[@r3zaful]

He wouldn't even survive in my dad mountainous village lmao, nobody can handle mosquitos my dude. If an real survival show happens in any jungle in South East Asia he will die from dengue fever or malaria sooner or later.

[@jgon12]

Otk survival won't happen most of the members are not that healthy and probably will die they could not even play sports when they did the sports event. It could probably work if it not intense and in a control environment but even that it will not be a real survival more like going to the park 😂

[@chardonnay5767]

As long as they focus on all of the ways they fail in keeping it real

[@jonasduell9953]

I wanna see OTK on a moonshining tour building their own still, fermenting whatever and going blind on their own moonshine!

[@forbiddensilhouette5824]

John's a nice guy that loves the bush. He can operate an excavator and I even saw him open two beers with both eye sockets.

[@Lorentari]

Concrete is made from quicklime, which is limestone which has been heat-treated at metal-melting temperatures. Quicklime itself reacts with water (which is why concrete gets hot as it hardens). Quicklime is quite porous and britle, so precise ratios of rocks between the sizes of fine sand to gravel is used along with glass fibers and trace metals, and sometimes salt is added to give cement the desired properties

[@Unknowngnostic]

I install namboo floors sometimes. It does have the strands that can fray, but you can get a clean cut with a blade with more teeth. Its a lot jarder and you need certain guns made for harder wood. Now the raw bamboo like in the videos, it frays much easier than the manufactured flooring product. But you can still get a clean cut if you use finish blades

[@michaelsouthern2398]

CONCRETE : a mixture typically containing Rocks or Sand, Cement, and then water is added and all is mixed. Depending on amount of base powders and amount of water in mixture will directly affect the time which the mixture will solidify into CONCRETE in the shape/form of which is was molded (hopefully already 🤦‍♂️😂) such as curb,walk way, divider wall, ramp and of course more…. I also worked for a Concrete Company for many years 🤙🫡

[@saurlex1368]

I can't believe there were people that actually thought 2 guys were just building these crazy houses and pools in the jungle with sticks. Maybe i'm just more skeptical than most but I always assume everything I see online is faked to an extent. I still watch the videos, it's amusing to me that people would stop watching these videos after this 'exposure'.

[@apalsnerg]

I thought they were real, only that they were week- or sometimes monthlong projects that they just cut together. As in, they go out for hours every day, film some when they've made progress, then turn the camera off for a good while.

[@bitharne]

You, 100%, are more skeptical than most…people are kinda derpy as a general average/rule.

[@xavierescano4559]

to some people it matters, i loved the original one because it amazed me to know what one man can do with nothing but his hands.

[@MrVvulf]

People still watch Bear "sleeps in hotel" Grylls. Just another example of a fraud following in the footsteps of a more authentic original - Les Stroud.

[@chanmandeath2993]

I'm ngl, as someone who didn't jump on the "Primitive tech" train because it featured zero youtubers that hold my interest, and was blatantly faked based off of title alone, I feel far, far less wronged than people who actually believed this stuff. Like, I am genuinely curious as to how Asmon is getting so mad about this, given I just kinda went "Yeah, figured as much" when the debunk video came out.

[@messiahforyou4539]

it was funny how when you look at many of those builds the frames of doors or windows are cut out so precisely that it is so obvious they didnt use a stick

[@SuperKinahead]

Yeah concrete is sand/stone, and a chemical composition of cement. The cement mix is the binding agent that when mixed with water, heats up and hardens over time. This is why you see cement being turned in a mixing truck, because the heat coming from the chemical reaction is being spread as it mixes, slowing the process down (also to make sure the cement is properly mixed).

[@helmholtzthemulewatson4763]

Generally concrete is cement with stone or filler added. A Concrete truck is simple spinning to get a smooth and workable consistency with additional water being added if necessary. Heat isnt really a factor with conventional cement.

[@SuperKinahead]

@Helmholtz the Mule Watson yeah ok just repeat what i literally just said. Heat is a factor because it dictates how fast your cement will harden, and the chemical reaction when mixed with water naturally generates heat. Because the heat evaporates the water, and as the water evaporates the cement hardens to concrete. Which is one of the main reasons why cement trucks turn up on site mixing the cement. All the ratio/mixing is done before they even leave the yard. They just appear dump the cement into the pump and leave.

[@christophercampa6777]

Nice. Thanks for sharing bro I didn't know this at all. Gob bless

[@csguy3223]

I did wilderness survival training in Boy Scouts as a kid and it was pretty fun. Most of us didn’t sleep on the wilderness overnights. I built a decent sized little hut to sleep in with a moss and leaf bed, but most people literally just pulled up a branch and slept on the dirt. You would really have to invest time into making a shelter that would be warm to stay in or you would not last, even during spring or fall, or a really cold week during the summer. It got down to like 45 i think the night we did it and it was early fall. We were all so cold that we just made a fire together and chilled in a clearing telling ghost stories. So fun.

[@Zerinith]

This is how it is for everything someone has an good idea then its copied into oblivion

[@Third_eyee]

this makes me love the OG primitive technology even more

[@barneymiller7894]

I really love how all of us totally believed these videos, until they got exposed. And we all thought to ourselves "Oh, im fuckin stupid."

[@xtremefurrycat]

I didn't buy the whole two guys putting together these things, because it took myself, my mom, and two other friends a whole day to put a small metal shed together in the back yard.

[@reasonablecontrarian2420]

And that was probably packaged ready to build as well, I’m assuming. I guess I understand why they lie, like the primitive tech guy got a lot of attention and they wanted to capitalize but it’s still really impressive to say, “hey so me and some friends who know how to operate heavy machinery made this shit in like a few months”

[@Toastybees]

These channels kinda cheapen the value of the real physical labor it takes to build anything. Real labor is difficult, exhausting, slow, and very rough on the body.

[@reasonablecontrarian2420]

@@Toastybees I agree but not if the sentiment is that because they used heavy machinery and architects it isn’t truly hard labor, they do cheapen it by pretending that isn’t what they’re doing, pretending to make concrete out of water and dirt. The actual process of building what they built I bet is far more interesting than the lies they tried to sell off for how they built it

[@UncannySense]

Clear crystal blue water in a mud hole...yeah totally not staged.

[@nathanburgett1599]

The way they made the pyramids is easy to answer. They used leverage, focal points, and slaves. A single man can lift and position a 50ton block with the proper leverage and setup. Using just stick, rope, and stone.

[@Utbaut]

Here in Germany a streamer named Fritz Meinike did set up a survival contest called "Seven vs Wild". 7 guys, for 7 days with 7 items alone in the Woods of sweden. Was pretty succsesful here but i don't know if they ever cared to make subtitles.

[@qatoxkils5280]

If people are wondering how they build pyramids. Discovery made a documentary about it they used water and gravity to get the blocks of stone higher its really interesting to see.

[@michaelwerkov3438]

Yeah, a lot of people dont realize because its only pretty recently they found out and proved it, but most pyramid complexes had like, an "off-ramp" built coming from the nile that filled up during seasonal floods. These channels basically ran up to a mini harbor right at the food of the pyramids. So they could float the stone nearly right up to the pyramid. I guess im not sure what youre tslking sbout using water to raise individual stones, but i could see inlets bring madr coming off of this srasonak harbor. But the pictures showing what the pyramids looked like next to a harbor... those are fucking awesome

[@Eir749]

The destruction of the land is actually pretty concerning. Deforestation is a pretty serious problem and if we don't stop it, it's gonna fuck us up as much as the microplastics in the sea.

[@nicholasbrosseau6035]

Believe it or not, there's actually more forest land now than there has been in human history. We're actually doing pretty well on that front. The oceans definitely need help now.

[@26dannyman]

Yes it is

[@Roisome]

1:00 At least from my understanding, stick and hands shouldn’t be able to dig past the organic materials. You’re stuck once you go past the topsoil. I don’t know if I used the correct terms, but at some point, the dirt will have condensed and harden and here is where steel and machineries are required. There is no way they could dig that deep into the ground with stick and hands. Or Canadian soils are just different idk.

[@marlonestrella8105]

Btw chemical composition of concrete can be found in most places You just need the following Concrete is actually a mixture of cement (the binder), water and some form of aggregate (the filler). This means that concrete is a composite material. In addition to this, cement is also a compound material, as it is a mixture of limestone and clay

[@CycloneFox]

After I saw one of these videos for the first time, of someone digging a whole to create an awesome looking pool area with his hands, I couldn't help myself to not get a calculator and do the maths myself. It looked just so ridiculous that someone would grab a bunch of sand and throw it up over his shoulder for potentially hours until he dug like 5 tons of sand like that. Even if they have super clean sand with no roots or other stone layers over there. And so I did the math and out came that (for that particular video I watched with my own assumptions) that he had to dig like that for days without pause, without getting slower, etc.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Imagine a millennia into the future, humans found these abandoned sites and thought it was evidence of a civilisation…

[@eredaane4656]

the most important thing here is, cement powder is not a reaction product, the reaction only happens after, when you bring it in contact with air and water. The main ingredients are Lime and Calciumsulfate. Then Quartzsand, Alkai and various metal oxides are added. the mixture is then heated to dry it out and mixed. when in then gets mixed with water and aggregats (like sand and small rocks) it creates a reaction that produces heat and takes days to fully complete.

[@Docktavion]

The same thing happens with house flipper shows. They always show around a dozen guys doing the work in X no. Of days. Soon as the cameras go off, dozens upon dozens of folk jump in to carry on.

[@VargVinter]

Imagine the excavation team in 200 years finding these builds all through the forest

[@shadowdragon8168]

I feel like such a moron now for missing some of these obvious indications to these types of videos being fake, the excavator tracks are so obvious and I was just oblivious to it

[@eragonrank5303]

It was such a hell digging a simple shell scrape while I was in the Singapore National Service. The tree roots and rocks are really painful to remove. Wonder why I never thought back on that.. hmm.

[@THUNDER52]

Roots & rocks while digging are why I was never able to do these things as a kid - literally. I would kill to do this stuff sometimes but cant

[@giogio3008]

The chats a bit forward

[@misterexclusive8282]

This ultimately just gives me more respect for the first Prim-Tech guy. He is doing something so [ironically] revolutionary that people are faking following in his footsteps trying to recreate what he's doing. The dude tapped into such an instinctual side of humanity that the whole world watched and many wanted to try their own hand (inevitably turning to falsehood because of just how difficult it truly is).

[@softbreeze941]

I realised that some time ago because when you listen to these videos you can quite often hear a generator or a pump in the background when they are dealing with water and that pump sound is making an abrupt cut between the shots....

[@sya2711]

same i always shrugged it off by thinking `its clay , so its easy to dig into`

[@Hot_SpicyGrill]

If they where honest and showed the building it would be fine. I’ve watched home improvement videos and there fine.

[@helmholtzthemulewatson4763]

Primitive technology is my favorite youtube channel every time he puts out a video a grab a drink, full screen and give it my full attention. To me it just so impressive and inspiring that one man could achieve so much with nothing. Even more impressive is that ancient people actually figure this shit out by themselves without the ability google it. Watching John really gives you an appreciation of what it took for us to get to where we are today. The problem I have with the other is that the other channels build things that clearly arent do-able with the methods they show alone. For example I saw a video where they made primitive cement with termite clay which is cool and legit, but after the cut amount of cement they had was increased 10 fold, was clearly store bought cement, plus there was absolutely no way there primitive process could of produced such a quantity. Yet the comment sections of these channels are filled with people who like asmon believe the processes work even if the labor is subbed out. The processes DO NOT work and the buildings they make are often so frail and disfunctiional they would not withstand more then a couple storms or even shed water. Its honestly disheartening to read through and see so many people lacking basic critical think skills, and therefor lack the ability to understand just how hard it would really be to build even the simplest structures.

[@stacktus9158]

“I didn’t think about the roots” never dug a hole in your life confirmed 😂😂

[@TheSwampFox93]

Lmao "gravity wasnt invented then, they just pet em there" im dying roflmao

[@bc9554]

When the isekai manga weebs find out they cant actually build an imperial palace full of catgirls by hand

[@emmanuelsantana8294]

I would love to see these primitive building channels one-up each other to the point they're building literal planetary bodies.

[@looneybin8133]

I bought primitive technology book when it came out. It's such a useful and good book, that I placed it on the same shelf as my rare/antique books. Imagine a book from 2019 being placed right next to books that are several hundreds of years old.

[@endeavor8114]

I know I am late to comment but one thing is see being glossed over is that the land is leased like when a film crew rents land to shoot a movie but in the case of these channels the don’t clean up after themselves it is the equivalent of a movie crew not tearing down the set after filming was done and just left it for the property owners to deal with.

[@Brazoree]

PT is such a good channel for when youre in your doomer moods

[@EXRazeBurn]

"We've been finessed!" I howled XD

[@jesusjesus272]

25:58: Tell me you don't hear shaggy for a sec there.

[@Josh-qs1rl]

This is like that streamer when he revealed he had a fake fridge in his room.

[@forfun6273]

What about the streamer who faked to be paralyzed from the waist down until he stood up on cam lol.

[@finalbreath15]

I think some of them are genuine. I've seen ones that seem like the creators cut corners but they do have the knowledge for the most part and do demonstrate how to DIY. I like watching some of the ones out of Asia, building mud huts and such. The "amazing underground waterside castle" stuff is definitely not primitive tech building. It can be done but it's clearly a build that isn't for practicality, whereas the mud huts with live food storage etc seem totally legit.

[@Debrafeem]

The video came out 9 min ago and you posted after 6 min so you obviously made an opinion before even watching. I think the video should change your mind on 95% of those channels, especially the “Asian” ones.

[@ekirbo]

@@Debrafeem well either that or you know, he watched the original video.

[@finalbreath15]

@@Debrafeem fair but it's not hard to assume it's possible for a single person to go out and assemble the tools to build a hut. I'm not saying that they aren't staged, I just think that it defeats the point of the video, one way or another someone is building a shanty out of mud and sticks. One of the channels I follow states that he is a city man who likes to do that type of thing in his off time. The videos are still fascinating and informative. I guess it all depends on the channels in question. I just want to add that I think the scope of the project is a factor as well. Digging out a deep swimming pool is much different and more labor intensive than just gathering sticks and molding mud into a hut. I'm not surprised those digging videos aren't done using only manual labor.

[@Debrafeem]

@@finalbreath15 I get you. I think some channels are reasonable, however others in which they manage to build miniature resorts with colored blue water and attempt to pass it off as ingenuity, I find to be disingenuous at best and malicious at worst. But yes, I agree there are some smaller channels where people do in fact spend a large amount of time and effort with reasonable results, and that is quite neat and to be admired.

[@mikcon63]

I tried digging a hole once with a spade with the idea to make a swimming pool, 3 days of digging I got about knee deep and gave up because rocks are a prick to deal with.

[@Pharaphel]

Have you ever tried using a shovel to dig something? They use sticks. I'm sure these videos are necessary to comprehend how fun manual labor is...

[@ZillerSpitzerich]

EARLY GANG WHERE YOU AT

[@Narsty_Boy]

Respect the hussle. At least they're not like, scamming people.

[@ianjardine7324]

Concrete is based on the chemical reaction between calcium and water which is why the base for any concrete mix is some form of naturally occurring calcium like limestone or shellfish shells heated for a sustained time to remove any moisture and impurities resulting in a volatile powder known as quicklime which reacts with moisture to create heat this technology has been used for centuries in various cultures for a wide range of uses from speeding quicklime on fields where rain would wash it into the soil to reduce soil acidity to mixing it with other substances to create a mixture which would react with water by heating and hardening such as lime putty for glazing and lime mortar for construction.

[@skypechess]

As I see, the termite nest they broke at 19:08 can be seen intact in the background at upper left corner at 19:17.

[@Wargulf2838]

it's one thing to make a proof of concept by saying "it's technically *feasible* but it's gonna take too long to dig thing trench up alone with one stick and two rocks, so i'm employing a team to accelerate the process of the project." but it's clearly another to have an excavator come in, dig a massive hole, then getting in the hole and slapping dirt around with a stick as if you're digging the swimming pool yourself, or doing anything meaningful for that matter.

[@light819]

As a guy who once tried to dig a real dug out as a child in a forest. Roots were the first thing I thought of, especially when the hole is still narrow the difficult part is just managing to even have the space to swing an axe at a root. Rocks at the least you can pull out and be done with. A root you have to deal with every time the hole expands and you often have to remove at both ends.

[@patnope6344]

i love how this ends with well it would be a great clip right. lmao

[@marcusbullock630]

the pyramids of giza were constructed with geopolymer and it's been known for quite some time. nobody rolled giant blocks. slaves carried the supplies like river clay, river water and silt etc, and they mixed and poured each cube exactly where it is with a mold. after a section of one of the pyramid's blocks were cut into, they found tiny microbubbles- the same kind you see when you use quikrete.

[@hakes187]

I never thought they did it by themselves, it will go from poles in the ground to 3 story's with floor, still cool

[@steveanton763]

I do landscaping I always assumed this was done in other ways as it can't be reasonably done this way. It made a great video.

[@vinnieg6161]

That dude just scooping cement out of the river was pretty hilarious

[@akiramatoi4158]

9:04 LMFAO . . . Makes sense 🤣🤣 and bro you had me in tears with the ancient aliens comments.. the 9 min one i tagged and at 15:49 🤣🤣

[@whirlwindcochran8361]

You hit the nail right on the head. that's exactly how it felt when I was growing up. now you'll get a felony if you build a Fort.