"I like Dark Souls 2" | Asmongold Reacts

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[@roosterhead2540]

The one single phrase that can trigger asmon : I liked ds2

[@xstreampunk7662]

typical ds player to be honest, they somehow got this deep hatred for this game, it ain't even that bad to be honest, at least for me tho.

[@roosterhead2540]

@@xstreampunk7662 it's definitely the worst one of the series but it's not as bad as people make it

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@xstreampunk7662 It's not. But in comparison to the original Dark Souls and with the wonky hitboxes especially, it's objectively worse than the original and subsequent titles. Though there are a few things in 2 that I thought were great ideas( how they handled new game+ for example).

[@roosterhead2540]

@@Lobsterwithinternet agreed

[@xstreampunk7662]

@@Lobsterwithinternet personally, i prefer ds2 over ds1 mainly because of how ds2 features even tho a lot of them didn't get used much. i mean a boss would change phase based on your armor, torches can light scones and it will permanently lit up, ambidextrous hands, bonfire ascetic, a covenant where you defend an area and can use traps. in the end, combat wise, it's acceptable at best but feature wise, i like it more than what others do, and level design wise, i don't think any levels in any DS could even top Shulva or Brume tower to be honest. but it ain't that big of a deal

[@Sattylites]

After seeing him play these games, I really don't think Asmon can shame anyone for summoning phantoms.

[@greenrisingphoenix6110]

I don't shame people if you want to summon phantom you can. Asmon is one soul who think summoning against boss is a since even there not as good as play who solo and no hit these games

[@sooper7374]

@@greenrisingphoenix6110 For real it's something you can use in the game. It's not breaking the game or cheating just to kill a boss

[@greenrisingphoenix6110]

@Sooper there no use to explain what ment to sorry

[@king_alonne3707]

as someone who loves helping people, I can't understand him.

[@umayuna4093]

All I here in this video is "I can't jump attack spam carry therefore game bad"

[@ryanross3824]

I loved ds2. It was years before I realized the community hated it lol,

[@SitKid721]

Same I don't get it

[@toiletseat777]

Some KZbinr made a video "essay" on it and it only got worse from there.

[@iR3dyOfficial]

Not everyone hated it the pvp was the only real good thing overall but I enjoyed the game and have over 500hrs in total in that game alot of it was pvp

[@ALLmasked]

ds2 had issues but it felt weirdly nostalgic, even if you haven't played it before. just feels like a fever dream. the "too difficult issues" weren't the problem. once you know the damage mechanic its all get good at dodging and then attacking. its the too easy ones that make the game dreadful, especially when the mobs before it are way harder to deal with.

[@zekedelsken9963]

@@GenDrake3 i just played through sekiro and have gotten through shulva and am now on brume tower. Parrying is so instinctual it feels like cheating now. Honestly each souls transfers into the other just fine. Actually sekiro is closest in item usage, because the slowness of items matches the franticness and punishment of enemies in sekiro

[@SGT_Squid_Dog]

Getting mad at someone for using summons is such a weird thing. Especially in dark souls 1 or 3. How is anyone supposed to get sunlight medals and the covenant rewards. Rewards aside, what about the feeling of participating in Jolly Cooperation?

[@cjyoung5635]

Every covenant has an enemy that drops the required items. (It's an offline fail safe basically) Doing the white masks questline in elden ring was technically one they had to add in but you could also do all the manor invasions and that would count.

[@things-z8o]

@@cjyoung5635yes but summoning is an easier and much faster way to get the items

[@veqda]

​@@cjyoung5635with like a 1 or 2% chance of dropping😭🙏

[@MrLoowiz]

Because people have fragile egos, and can't stand other people easily beating a boss they had to die over and over again, because they were too proud to use companions.

[@SGT_Squid_Dog]

@@veqda i deadass had to spend 30 hours farming sunlight medals because I already beat the game before finding the covenant of sunlight

[@BlueMoonFuzz]

I laughed so hard when they guy just said his first sentence of the video and Asmon immediately pauses the video to call him an idiot filled with rage lmaoo

[@ra_fun3126]

Asmon probably liked the game, he played it 2 times with dlc, if he didnt liked it at all, he wouldnt have

[@anstorner]

@@ra_fun3126 DLC I believe is the only reason i would even touch DS2 at all, although 2 times it depends if he didn't go for all bosses including Co-op areas

[@gregrothschilds8453]

​​@@ra_fun3126 Or he played it so that he can give an accurate assessment of the game and the mechanics. Would you rather be shit on it without playing it? Or you'd probably be like "he played it once and sucked he doesn't know anything." Just bc someome has a lot of hours in a game doesn't mean they can't say it's bad or criticize it.

[@Lucifronz]

@@anstorner The DLC was by far the most bullshit part of the game. _What?_ I mean I liked the ideas behind them, but there's so much stupid shit. All of the fire crown areas, the entire snow field full of super-charged respawning death-reindeer. The twin tigers fight. Just the whole fucking fight and its existence. Seriously, I liked DS2 but if you're gonna claim the DLC was an improvement then wow, we clearly did not play the same fucking game.

[@anstorner]

@@Lucifronz I just recently played and got to NG+2 Drauglec castle (i wanted to kms so many times trying to get the last spells for the platinum trophy just so i didn't had to play DS2 never again), so i can express my current feelings about this because it changed massively about how i saw this game before and now. For me the worst area is Shrine of Amana and second Iron Keep, then Frigid Outskirts, Iron Passage then Cave of the Dead. The why is because these two first areas are 100% required to go through and are CBT both, and in NG+1 and beyond Red Phantoms start to appear everywhere, it made me feel so bad i had to avoid playing any souls until like next month because it truly felt miserable going through those areas 3 times in an row. Eleum Loyce is terrible to go through after getting rid of the storm because every place now is an gankfest with no purpose aside of making exploring feel horrible which in Dark Souls 1, Dark Souls 3, Elden Ring, Bloodborne rewarded you, here (and all of DS2 areas) punish you with more ganks and invasions, at least the Ivory King is an good boss, but needing to explore the entire place just to fight him is annoying. Frigid Outskirts is [-h-------------e----------------l----------p-] , Iron Passage the same and both have reskin bosses and one is an gank, so i am not denying that and Iron Passage has mages making you fatroll, nothing more needs to be said. Shulva Sanctum City has very annoying enemies with their shields and spears with cheap placements to kill you easily, but at least theres not that many that i can tile my roof with them like i would Alonne knights and ice spear golems, and it dosen't look that great, Both bosses aside the ganksquad are fine, but can be extremely annoying either by the weapon you have, or RNG with how many times the dragon jumps, or if she immediately summons Veldstadt . Cave of the Dead is Black Gulch 2.0, At least Black Gulch did not have enemies to attack you while being stunned by being poisoned and the boss is easy and has an bonfire infront of it , here it's an oneshot and the enemies are extremely annoying and you can be hit alot in the fogwall, and the boss is THE ganksquad, so thats terrible too. Brume Tower aside of the Brides of Ash and the dumb invasions, it's actually the best of the bunch because the enemies are managable if you want to fight them, and if you dont want you can go past them in several parts, although doors u do need to kill them unless you want it to be Iron Keep 2.0, the game does provide several ways to fight them compared to other places, Both bosses Fume Knight and Alonne the sole reason why i play the entire game in the first place, although having to do the entire game to reach both of them is extremely tiresome. So i would say you are correct in most stuff aside of Brume tower which that one felt the most fair to me (Iron passage kms kms kms kms), but everything else if it burns i wouldn't care the least

[@wolverineftw]

I like that the pvp covenant guy that’s obsessed with blood is voiced by Con O’Neil, one of the actors in Chernobyl. He also voices Mohg in Elden Ring.

[@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT]

Yes

[@guzo116]

Sounds like man’s just like Blood

[@therieri88]

Voices also Mohg who is obsessed with blood? Coincidense?

[@Chronx100]

I like when he said "Its Mohgin time" and starts mohgin all of his disciples.

[@unyielding.entertainment]

His voice is so iconic at this point lmao

[@aikuro649]

DS2 was my gateway to souls games... this Shit has a special place in my heart

[@yarus5889]

Me too. Although I hate it tbh

[@idoonotkno894]

same

[@Custoid]

Same. To me, it still had the most eerie atmosphere of all the From Soft games and to me it's certainly better than DS1 and Demon's Souls.

[@broccolin]

Shit indeed.

[@dedde1311]

honestly the best souls game is individual and it is determined by which one was your first

[@Deus_Mortis]

watching this just made me wanna play more dark souls 2....

[@Hazzzyyyyyy]

Dark Souls 2 got me into the souls series as a whole so it deserves a place in my heart.

[@risingempires473]

same first one ive ever played and I actually loved it I wont lie. Def not as well designed as the others but still better then credited for

[@reasonator9538]

I absolutely love the game, but it is objectively awful

[@found6393]

Like where? In the deepest darkest reaches of your heart? The places where the desires that reside alongside it are not fit for public exposure?

[@archieliam717]

DS2 is fucking amazing

[@reasonator9538]

@@found6393 nah man, its the haunting music of majula, and the beautiful story of vendric and his brother, dark souls 2 is awful when inspected close up, but looking through the whole game makes it sweet. Least thats the way I see it

[@lawlietriver8869]

To be fair, the Asylum Demon is literally 3 of the bosses in DS1. FromSoft likes to reuse shit. The Taurus Demon is later a normal mob as you try to get to Bed of Chaos. I only played Elden Ring via Seamless CO-OP and DS1 is now my frist true FromSoft experience, but my impression is that reskins is kinda their thing in general. It is not a DS2 issue at all, it is a pattern of behavior.

[@bananashapedorange]

They reuse shit way too much. It was downright detrimental to elden ring imo

[@furnofk1229]

FINALLY someone who talks about the asylum demon

[@ullr1438]

The way it used in DS1 was great though. Seeing bosses you fought at the start was mobs were more fun than anything

[@KOOLMEMER]

@@ullr1438 Pretty sure they didnt' get to finish the last parts of ds1 which is why a lot of shit is reused.

[@fatusopp4739]

@@bananashapedorange tbf, i feel its kinda warranted in elden ring. a game that big was bound to be padded out with filler, only time i would say it was actually detrimental was when it reused extremely unique bosses like astel.

[@BigDanGaming]

That last PVP clip absolutely killed me 😂

[@JayTohab]

ikr

[@swiftroph]

I wasn't expecting BigDanGaming watching Asmongold.

[@jacobtridef48]

Same lol!!

[@PychPmp]

Im sitting here playing dark souls 2 while this is playing, and ive fallen off the map more than enemies have killed me

[@mattmcnamara9548]

If I ever meet Asmongold in person I will tell him "ds2 good" just so I can see him get visually mad in person.

[@MamaTrixxieAsmr]

It’s funny as fuck As someone who’s played ds2 so many times to the point where one of my casual attempts almost got the no death ring recently, it’s just infinitely funny to watch this grown man basically mald so hard over ds2 existing

[@DrayLoco]

@@MamaTrixxieAsmri don’t get why people watch this guy. Like he shits in people for liking games that he’s terrible at and can’t adapt to. E.G. DS2/Sekiro/Wo Long

[@MamaTrixxieAsmr]

@@DrayLoco I don’t get it either Like i bought dark souls 2 after completing bayonetta for like the fourth time, if it was truly a bad game, if I had not liked ds2 If I had not played ds2 to death and gotten really good and liked it I would not currently be on my like, Eleventh play through of Elden ring as I type this(I stopped in the middle of liurnia just to type this as I go rush to get the academy key so I can grab an item for the third of my seven deadly sins (not the anime) themed builds) Wrath is a Fire build, using frenzied flame mostly, but any other flame incantation I can get my hands on.(a fucking shame since once of the pieces of that build I need is behind SEWER MOGH, who’s only _extremely resistant to FIRE_) Pride is a dex/Faith lightning build mainly using the bolt of gransax to smite enemies, also has the best fashion(though I may need to find more protective fashion, because carian knight armor has all the protection of a wet paper towel) And lust I’m making rn, planning on using curved swords mainly(one of which is in the fucking snowfield and the other in caelid The other four I have a rough idea but nothing solid on them

[@drippinwitease]

@@DrayLoco It's not exactly about his opinions of the game; Asmongold mostly reacts to what makes him popular, in the most drastic and most one-sided cases. He is very enjoyable to watch, and a very good content creator (as much as a regular NEET can be). He simply publicly displays fake opinions to gain popularity.

[@MerlinTheCommenter]

@@MamaTrixxieAsmrwell yeah, you dedicated a ton of valuable time to a very low-mid game. And that’s your choice, you’re entitled to do it but Asmon’s opinions are a living reminder that you sank that time into a worthless gullet and that’s why you have the reaction you have. I personally love DS2 and don’t mind the problems at all and found his comments valid and funny. What I took from his criticism is more so the hypocrisy of lying that a game is “good” when the player was clearly having such a rough go at it. Fair points all around. In life, you’re going to run into a lot more of this, so buckle up kiddo 😂

[@kurtmullinax124]

For me DS2 was this weird fever dream that felt like a heavily modded fan made sequel to dark souls 1. And at the time i played it. Ngl i loved it. The world felt so huge and i feel like i could have never explored everything. Probably because i was too busy running through parts that had 30 enemies.

[@AtreyusNinja]

hope u learned how to play the game.

[@mrdeafter]

They think infinite spawn reindeer in very huge area with zero visual to face 2 bosses at the same time was a good idea.

[@schnoz2372]

@@AtreyusNinjai didnt and its still fun as hell to this day

[@AtreyusNinja]

@@schnoz2372 glad to hear👍

[@chinmail]

Good way to describe it, it's cheaper feeling and more 'arcadey', not anything close to being the nightmarish work of art like DS1 however it's pretty good, mindless, addictive fun, assuming boss battles aren't your main thing and that you make sure to avoid HF Valley.

[@inferior3199]

One of the greatest skills I developed was liking a piece of media while being able to acknowledge it's flaws or the fact that isn't as good as I believe. This isn't just directed to DS2 fans.

[@willcotterill8598]

that’s not a skill it’s just being normal

[@RobertPayne556]

My skill is memes. That's my normality.

[@alexandrecotrimcosta3489]

@@willcotterill8598 most people on the internet aren't normal

[@Gondaldin]

Being able to acknowledge that a piece of media can be good despite its flaws is an equally important skill. This isn't just directed to DS2 haters.

[@user-ey1sf6fy3f]

ds2 is literally better version of ds1. if ds2 is trash then ds1 is worst. ds3 is the only different game in between the 3 games.

[@tomoe4776]

I've started 100% the achievements in all the souls games starting from 1 up to elden ring, and honestly? Dark souls II was an experimental game that didn't always land with its mechanics, but it quite literally shaped the souls games we have today from so many aspects. It introduced new weapon mechanics, sweet spots on weapons, unique armor buffs, progressive flask charges, 4 ring slots, the list really goes on.

[@somerandommenace]

Ok dbz set the foundation for alot of anime but it's far from the best I don't get what you're saying

[@caosin3667]

@@somerandommenace unrelated

[@SJNaka101]

​@somerandommenace well hold up. Paul morphy would get shitstomped by any random fide master today in chess, but he's still ALWAYS in the discussion for chess goat. "Greatest" conversations must always take historical context into account. It's not fair to directly compare works and skills from the past to the present. So, imo, if you just look around and see ALL the influence dragonball has had on manga and anime, and say it's "far from the best", you're flat out wrong. It will always be in the conversation for greatest manga/anime of all time because of those foundations it laid for the future. And besides that, it's still a great series. The anime suffers in pacing from time to time, but the series has great humor, action, and inspirational messaging. It's really not as bad as a lot of dragonball haters make it out to be, though I will grant that most modern popular shonen have VASTLY refined writing compared to toriyama's

[@epicninjaz117]

​@@caosin3667It's called a comparison buddy, and it's a pretty damn good one

[@caosin3667]

@@epicninjaz117 pretty sure its a bot that copied and pasted the top comment from someone else

[@DRKSLS3333]

ive been playing ds2 nonstop for the past like 4 months now. Ive helped like 8 new people through the game all the way and have been doing a ton of pvp. I always really enjoyed it for some reason, although i have more hours in all the other souls game.

[@AtreyusNinja]

if u are a ds2 pvp enjoyer just give it a bit more time, u can rlly ez get an insane amount of playtime in this game because of his pvp, check the mod Blueacolyte if u on pc and u don't know what is it, have fun!.

[@DRKSLS3333]

@@AtreyusNinja definently running the mod, its a must have \[T]/

[@AtreyusNinja]

@@DRKSLS3333 yep it is \[T]/

[@13ofus]

Its a very fun game still the issue people have with it is that its slightly different. Atleast for me going from ds1 to ds2 the first 2-4 hours were actual garbage hated the game then you kinda figure out how it plays and you good. Granted there are some awful parts in that game like the runbacks to certain bosses (chariot fool mainly what im thinking of)

[@HoraceKock]

PvP is nuts in DS2

[@jpisback]

The issue with Demon of Song most people didn't realize was that it was the Hand hitboxes as well that grabbed you. This happened all the time until I learned to either roll further one way or run backwards.

[@slippers8000]

@@renmcmanus when speedrunners walk entire twin princes fight lol

[@slippers8000]

@@renmcmanus i mean they do use basic pattern recognition, which is why its consistent. I get what you're saying though. I guess it's the most important thing with DS2, rolling having high end lag really makes you not want to roll so you get a bigger punish/actually get a punish.

[@laurensgrewe9189]

u mean Semon of Dong?

[@kagomehigurashi693]

@user-zw2ov4qq8s shoulda played it when it came out in 2014 i bet youd have a different opinion

[@jpisback]

@@renmcmanus when it first came out, I missed a Shit tone, though. I didn't even fight Demon of Song, and I missed the whole forest with the invisible dudes And Scorpioness chick. it took me Four playthroughs to learn the pursuer chases you more than twice.

[@JanitorJim56]

I get that Ds2 definitely has some major cons, but I feel that Dark Souls 1 set a standard in people’s minds of “what dark souls is” and Ds2 threw a curveball and changed a lot, and I feel that people took that harshly, and just shamelessly hated on the game for 2 majors reasons. 1. They never/barely played it and they’re mad they suck or are jumping on the bandwagon. Or 2. They played Ds2 with a standard in their minds, and when Ds2 didn’t meet those requirements in the way Ds1 did, they got pissy.

[@AtreyusNinja]

U are not wrong, but also when ppl talk sg1t about ds2 they seems to forget how bad Ds1 was for some aspects, movesets 4way roll directions not even be able to teleport (the interconnection thing is an AMAZING thing for a first Experience, but then???) Ds1 have some incredibly bad hitboxes but is only a problem when there is ds2 in the title. In ds2 u have multiple way and u can teleport any time, quality of life.

[@entropy7705]

If the Ds1 standards are: Actual turnspeed Not tying s to a stat actual level design Non artificial difficulty (i.e shit enemy placement) Mindnumbingly easy gameplay the lock on not being a detriment to your gameplay hitboxes that don't suck you into the attack Then yeah, people aren't gonna like Ds2.

[@AtreyusNinja]

@@entropy7705 oh so is a problem of hitbox the teleport thing, not that ds2 gives prio to the end of Your roll instead. Oh so the gank squad is Just bad lvl design and Joseph Anderson in his critique is Just wrong. Oh because the Lock on in Ds1 was gooAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Oh because your mage and Your tank need so many s, i did pvp with 9adp dodging using My eyes and it was fine, i still had more s than Monster hunter and dmc with 9 adp.

[@JanitorJim56]

@@entropy7705 I don’t think souls game had “mind numbingly easy gameplay” We are talking about dark souls, correct?

[@9hoot789]

There's a bare minimum standard you have to make if you are a game company with successful titles. That standard is: don't regress in quality. There are many, many basic things which DS2 fails at in many different (and many major) areas, which aren't just caused by expecting it to be like DS1. They're caused by it just not being a better game, which is a completely normal expectation. It's really that simple. And don't get me wrong, there's good of course, but the fact is most of the defenses of DS2 hinge on ignoring or deflecting all of its objectively bad decisions, which is equally as disingenuous as people hopping on the bandwagon.

[@harmonious.calamity]

Who's going to tell him they put 2 fire mages in with the Lost Sinner on NG+?

[@slammbamm1977]

That fight you kinda DO need a phantom to help

[@panikadamddam6871]

I think it was good,i beaten dark souls 2 in ng+ and its worth it because they let you create weapons from the lord souls from ds1,new boss placement.Also theres a way to make it easier agains new enemy placements. High endurance and duel wielding +10 infused longswords. I use no summons while i did that.

[@DeafCope]

The biggest truthbomb this game drops is in the opening cinematic "But one day, you will stand before its decrepit gate. Without really knowing why..." Thats how i felt entering every single zone. Why am i here? How did i get here? What am i doing? Who am i?

[@poppers7317]

Yeah, it's great.

[@hawkeyedsentinel4648]

@@Gyohdon Talking Heads ❤

[@Bollibompa]

That's the same in Dark Souls 1, don't be lying.

[@Bollibompa]

@@Gyohdon As if you don't in Dark souls 2? My god, you are such a liar

[@Bollibompa]

@@Gyohdon Just like Demon's souls and Dark Souls there is a crestfallen warrior in Majula. He and the Emerald herald always tell you what to do next. As far along in DS2 as when you meet Frampt in DS1, you encounter Nashandra and she also tells you a lot (it is mostly lies, but you can easily claim that Frampt lies too). But, just as in Dark Souls 1 the exact motivation is very vague. To "ring two bells" is exactly as vague as "Kill the king" and "Find four great souls". The reason why becomes clear much later in both games.

[@Trey-Farmhand-Suit]

I do like the way they hold swords. It’s actually accurate to how you actually hold a sword

[@RobertPayne556]

Vergil: _But they fly so high… 😭_

[@tabkg5802]

@@RobertPayne556 I dunno what you talking about since Vergil is accurate too lmao

[@brunoactis1104]

How is that important?

[@tabkg5802]

@@brunoactis1104 it isn't really important but just a cool detail

[@Dominated001]

​@@BeamMonsterZeushow they hold the weapons, in ds1/3 and ER they hold it very meh

[@ScilentDeath]

The pursuer stuff was great… i thought that was really magic as a concept… a game about hard bosses and in this game there was a boss who’s whole kinda thing was chasing you across the frigen game which was just killer. Wish they did that in dark souls 3 and elden ring.

[@RaxusXeronos]

The closest was Margit popping out of a random peasant in the overworld near the capital I think. Like not a spirit version of him or some rename version, just the guy you fought back in Limgrave calling your ass out in the field to run it back. I don't think a lot of people know about the encounter because you can easily miss it.

[@ZargorrOG]

@@RaxusXeronos that was a big jumpscare for me lol

[@megagamer8429]

@@RaxusXeronos there's also the bellbearing hunter

[@leadfaun]

Margit does that. The Night's Cavalry do that just as much as Pursuer does, really, since they're both optional.

[@frvits]

Night's Cavalry in ER was supposed to do something like that. Instead of spawning at the same set places at night, they would appear in more locations at random.

[@OMIMox]

My favorite part about the discourse around this game is that when the game was released in 2014 *almost no one complained about it.* I played DeS and DS1 right before DS2 came out, played it on launch and put 1200 hours in it, and it was universally loved. It made game of the year by GameInformer, extremely high review scores all across the board, everybody was loving it and talking about it, and it had an extremely small amount of the player base actually complaining about it. It was to the point where content creators complaining about the game were lambasted for just hating what was new and fresh, and basically every DS1 content creator other than the few dickheads switched over to DS2 content. Tons of PVP, build videos, walkthroughs, and so on. It took literally about a year for anybody to go back to Dark Souls 1 content, and that was after all three DLCs had released. In comparison, when DS3 came out nearly every content creator lambasted the game for its poor balance mixed with the same terrible net code that killed BB PvP and a severe lack of content (it didn't have an arena until the first DLC). Almost all OG Souls creators, and most smaller ones, ditched the game within the first month. Oroboro, Peeve, Yukasleigon, everyone just left. It took until after the DLC's for anyone to come back, and It was still very little content. The people who cropped up after the 1st dlc bought an arena slowly made a name for themselves as the balance patches and second DLC came out. LostMySanity, FighterPL, Revan318, Prod, G9, and Steelovsky all made a name for themselves *after* the absolute shitfest that was DS3's first year of a release. If it wasn't for those balance patches and the addition of the arena, there's a good chance that from a community standpoint the franchise would have just died. Nobody gave a shit because the game was rushed as hell, entire mechanics were just missing or broken, and balance wasn't even something they considered. The "DS2 is bad" complaints didn't even start until around the last 5 years when DS1 got it's remake. The problem is that DS2 punishes bad play more so than any game FROM has made other than Sekiro, and is notoriously hard to just run through. You actually have to try, and around the time the game came out that's what everybody wanted from the next FROM game. Like seriously, go look for videos pre-2018 criticizing DS2 for the things that you hear people complain about now like enemy density and "it's clunky and slow". You simply aren't going to find them because DS1&DeS were both just as slow if not slower with certain play styles and were actually more clunky the majority of the time. The things people are actually going to complain about in criticisms from back then are adaptability and soul memory, which are definitely massive issues and if they remake the game I think they should just remove the adaptability stat altogether.

[@drippinwitease]

Can't stop laughing at "played it on lunch" lmaoooooo But yes, I agree with literally everything you said. (although i gotta say i enjoyed soul memories)

[@Mythowars]

I mean yea adaptability was a waste of points just to get s. That was so lame and made the game super clunky for no reason

[@OMIMox]

​@@Mythowarsadaptability was a terrible choice, yes. But so was DS1 making R2 attacks do less damage, take longer, leave you vulnerable for longer, and take more stamina than 2R1s. Or the fact that one shield and about 10 weapons completely outclass literally everything else in ds1 by a country mile. Or the fact that two entire weapon classes have a stagger animation if you miss the attack. Point being, they all make mistakes.

[@Mythowars]

@@OMIMox yea but ds2 is more of a stinker then 1 so it gets my wrath

[@OMIMox]

@@Mythowars "I don't like Dark Souls 2 because I'm bad at it" there, I fixed your comment for you 🤡

[@colinclement2752]

The Pursuer ultra great sword is one of the coolest looking weapons in all the souls games imo

[@BrutalOrc]

Too bad you can't make it glow like the boss does though.

[@blaire9524]

@@BrutalOrc sorcery

[@centerleft6813]

Gargoyle badent/craftsmans hammer were my go to weapons.

[@kentrelllooney]

Ds2 definitely has some of the best weapons.

[@centerleft6813]

@@kentrelllooney craftsman’s hammer, gargoyle bident. Two of my favorites that weren’t replicated well in ds3

[@westerlytoast5763]

Dark souls 2 Enjoyer here

[@jupiter1024]

dark souls 2 is pretty good i dont get the fuss all games have their ups and downs

[@meowcat64]

Same I haven't played all of the souls series still but DS2 was my first and favorite of the series so far.

[@westerlytoast5763]

It doesn't deserve the hate for sure, I remember how much fun I had with it when it launched. Original lightning spears were amazing, and Dark Souls 2 spawned the greatest dark souls animation on KZbin

[@nomight273]

@@TheRedRaven_ its bad those hitboxes are garbage

[@General_Vaderz]

​@@nomight273 Git gud

[@freeoffilth3613]

I loved the journey that the game gave. DLC was also solid AF.

[@MiyazakisPVPexperience]

My condolences 🙏

[@novasZK]

yeah the dlc where u paid to go to a level where u couldn't see shit and got raw dogged by a bunch of fucking reindeers was rlly a great time

[@Aiden-iy9du]

@@novasZK all I have to say is tomb of the giants

[@LucaszSchmitz]

@@Aiden-iy9du yeah, people act as DS1 is not the champion of terrible map design lol Izalith was literally unfinished and the devs just said fuck it, place a bunch of lava and random mobs and let the players figure out

[@Mas_zeppelin]

Reported

[@Messier_-82]

I think Dark Souls 2 has the best atmosphere out of the first three. It’s so thick you can feel, very surreal and depressing environments, strange monsters and npc. The whole DS2 experience feels like the character is in a strange purgatory, where nothing matters to everyone

[@kaidanbaker673]

Now hear me out ds2 isnt bad....anyone who thinks it's bad IS bad at ds2 🤷‍♂️

[@saphron613]

Agreed

[@Adoumoui]

You can actually see when and how the Heide knights will attack, he's just bad. There is a small movement in the sword before the quick attack

[@danielortega7657]

Asmon is indeed.. bad, funny guy but he would've been just as bad as the kid in the video if he didn't play the series in reverse order.

[@PCgamerChannel]

Who beats a game they hate 2 times ? I stop playing games I dont like after 1-2 hours

[@dedde1311]

with souls you keep coming back to it until you finish it its got an addicting formula

[@Isaak-eo6tr]

True I played Ds1 and quit before the end of the game because i didn’t care about it and found it stale but i’m on my second Ds2 playthrough now.

[@Artyom-x8t]

Because you gonna make your money worth

[@princepeachfuzz]

you play it twice to "get it", as in letting it click in like it did for so many others

[@things-z8o]

i played all the way from the start of ng to the dragonlic castle on ng++ and i hate this game but did it to get 100% completion

[@pokekiller787x]

The Rotten is one of my favorite bosses in the game, I remember spamming bonfire ascetics just because I wanted to keep fighting him.

[@marcoaraiza9381]

I'm sorry for your loss

[@slick3996]

i would use like 4x of those on him and just get an insane amount of souls

[@jimlahey9122]

The perfect boss after the gutter and black gulch lmfao

[@ivankovachev8835]

You've got to be trolling... he is one of the most boring, weak, pathetic bosses and he is one of the major/giant soul 4 bosses, which is even worse... Not to mention that the black gultch is a rushed mess...

[@pokekiller787x]

@@ivankovachev8835 Don't know what to tell you man, I just find him fun to fight.

[@ThatGuy_203]

The world design is weird because the Devs originally wanted to do an Elden Ring style open world, but the idea was scrapped, and they just had to put the map together somehow.

[@Dravianpn02]

A LOT of things from DS2 are in Elden Ring. If ds2 was remade, I feel it would be god tier.

[@caosin3667]

wish we had the gutter's scapped map instead

[@alduinfr]

​@@Dravianpn02 well tbf that applies to almost any flawed masterpieces which is what ds1 and ds2 is

[@Dravianpn02]

@@alduinfr yeaahhh but just imagine though

[@andreafranco712]

the thing that always felt the most fun to me in ds2 was the ranged gameplay, the game gives you the most freedom as a caster than any other souls game, with items like the old iron king crown, playing as a high level hybrid hexer was the most fun i ever had as a ranged combat focused character, the game might be jank and objectively bad compared to all other recent fromsoft titles, and it also becomes clear why if you look at the development history, but i'll always still consider it a good game, and one that definitely has a special place in my heart

[@kindlestix8079]

@@Shawn_Raz_87 personally, I only use melee and no summons, but I do t judge people for using what the game gives you. I might judge people for cheesing tho

[@death2boredom338]

​@Shawn Rasmussen That comes from it being easy mode for DS1 in their eyes lol. An improvement to what was already cheating the system doesn't appeal to them.

[@JoshuaScott-h4r]

Ds2 were the true ds pvp giga chads are at

[@AtreyusNinja]

true

[@m.ubaidaadam]

The burnt ivory king was one of my favourite bosses in terms of presentation on the entire series. Only dragon lord placi tops him in Elden ring

[@grumpymonka6097]

This man was mentally abused by Dark Souls 2. What a legend...

[@EpicToastish]

The combat may not be its strong suit with the hitboxes and the mob density, but what i like about the game a lot is the story and the atmosphere, especially in Majula. The world feels like it's closer to an age of dark than the other 2 games, and you can see it everywhere. where there were literal towns in ds1 and 3, there are only ruins left in 2, and all people you encounter are visibly going hollow. The blacksmith lenigrast is a green hollow because he couldn't follow his purpose as a blacksmith and despaired, and all others have already forgotten how or why they came to drangleic. some like maughlin the armorer and Lucatiel lose themselves as their quests progress. The king is a soulless husk. The fire keepers are retired cause even they lost hope and the emerald herald took over to guide the player instead, for selfish reasons. Drangleic castle only has a handful of knights remaining, with all other inhabitants being either dead or lifeless golems. Since Nashandra took over, the entire castle is wrapped in perpetual dark, fitting for a child of Manus. There are a lot more spells, even including an entirely new subclass of dark spells called hexes with their own scaling, since people like Felkin the outcast and darkdiver Grandahl who have a deeper connection to the dark have appeared. The power of the old lords has dwindled to a point where the bosses carrying them barely show them. The Lost sinner has an izalith parasite controlling her, the rotten is nito if he had flesh, just without any necromancy, seaths soul is with a giant mutant spider next to a petrified ancient dragon, and gwyns soul is with a king that burned in the lava of a volcano instead of the first flame. In ds1 and 3 i never link the fire except for achievements because it is against the natural flow of the world and because i hate gwyn with a burning passion for what he did to humanity, so having scholar of the first sin give you a new ending that has you break out of the cycle and free yourself from the curse of hollowing is a huge plus in my book. The bosses might not be particularly challenging, but neither were those in demon's souls. the two games have a lot of design similarities, like the difficulty focusing on areas rather than bosses, the movesets of weapons and parries or the hollowing being a less extreme soul form. what i especially like about ds2's weaponry is that you can buff weapons that have elements on them with spells regardless of the infusion, and that leveling weapons is comparatively cheap since it costs only a few titanite shards.

[@schmietwechdeschiet4340]

Mob density? Really? Let's look at ds1 you just landed in firelink, you go to the graveyard...suddenly alot of skeletons stand up. Okay let's go the other way oh wait 6 Dudes 1 is out of reach throwing bombs at you while fighting the rest. Like Bro... Really? Hit boxes were stupid because they didn't know how or didn't had enough time to balance them around the ADP mechanic.

[@Riquinni]

Damn I miss DS2, the PVP really was a you had to be there kinda deal. When it was popping it just felt so good. But in general I also just loved the more king's fieldy vibe it had.

[@Nankeroo]

Just play it again then!

[@beyondthelol]

it still pops bro

[@Fourside__]

i loved my special invader Glow from the Arena, and the Duels i had with my 2 rings from No Death No Bonfire runs which made my weapons invisible was super fun, although not as competitive as you might hope haha. I even had a nemesis in the Arena, dude was like Level 500 while i was sitting at 120. Think i only beat him once or twice but he always made it fun by playing the Boss

[@uzmari]

@@Nankeroo u really can't early launch PvP was a true gem

[@Zerocharade]

i made a fun anti mage build and not a single mage could even kill me, was super fun.

[@kananananani]

"No this isn't accurate" Asmon, if they are standing still, you back away. They are preparing to strike. An enemy standing still is telegraph enough. Also, imagine complaining about Old Dragonslayer while uses the Asylum Demon except it pukes rocks.

[@Lucifronz]

There are some really good armor and weapon designs in DS2 that I'm glad *some* made a return in DS3. The Alonne Knight sets were a nice addition, though I always thought the design could be a little better. Specifically the helmets or the shoulders. There's something off about them. They look mildly awkward somehow.

[@natesquibb3368]

What about the art direction, massive size of the world, the great hub area, the fantastic lore where every NPC is losing their memory due to time being so convoluted, the fashion, the power stance- DS2 rules

[@AtreyusNinja]

man, what ca nu expect fromsomeone who literally said: "yeah i have no problem with ds3 lvl design and boss reused but yeah i hate ds2 so in that case is bad" 🙂 like dfq

[@devildante9]

Most of the things you mentioned are bad, and points against DS2. The world feels smaller than demons souls's (shout out to the final area that you can't access because of... a pillar that is one foot high, and that it magically disappears), the art direction is laughably bad (they outsourced most of the assets to third world countries, look it up), none of the npc quest made sense or fleshed out the world, lore, or the game philosophy (because the game at large doesn't have one, unlike DS1, bloodborne, sekiro, or elden ring). I'll give you that a lot of sets do look cool, and power stancing was a nice idea that they expanded wonderfully on elden ring. Majula is pretty neat too, though I personally prefer the nexus. The biggest downsides of the game for me, other than the terrible, terrible level and boss design, is the music and the animations, they look like PS1 level bad.

[@AtreyusNinja]

@@devildante9 ds1 is much better in that sense, ds1 animations make appear ds2 like a recent game. the world feels smaller than demon's souls? lol, if u say so.

[@likemysnopp]

yeah I think Asmon underestimate the lore a lot cuz imo there is more lore in ds2 then in ds1 and elden ring. Yeah I said it.. I fkin said it. Elden Ring is DS easy mode. Like lets be real. It is not difficult. Bloodbourne is also not that difficult that many morons claim it is.

[@somerandommenace]

​@@likemysnoppelden ring is objectively the greatest game they've made lol ds1 was braindead easy hold L1 spam R1 that's it plus the second half is dog shit

[@AlexanderForsman]

15:15 he is standing in its fist during an attack animation. How is that sitty roll the hill you want to die on???

[@AdolfoWWolf]

Many of the criticism about DS2 are facts, specially with level design, but with exception of reused bosses, asmon is sounding like a whiny noob to me, and if he things the two knights in the "small room" is too unbalanced, so that's disappointing, the boss is manageable pretty simple to beat. multiple enemies gank? oh don't be a weakling, long 2h sword with wide horizontal swing is just one of the ways to deal with this, waiting for the right moment to attack as it has always been in souls games. I started in DS2, then played some years later the DS1 game, though the same as people who played 1 and then 2, most DS1 bosses are easy when you already know how to play the game, some are even disappointing, although the designs in DS1 are much more interesting in general, that's the effect players had with DS2, they played it already knowing how Dark Souls combat works, it makes it a lot easier.

[@rumulux21]

one of the things that actually made me mad in ds2 is that doing animations for pulling switches or going thru a fog you cans till get hit by mobs and die

[@couchwilly5575]

11:20 literally describes the godskin duo

[@Ecco_The_Dolphin]

Yea i hate that fight, its cancer

[@456death654]

Easiest boss in the game. It's called sleeping pots

[@Mushimiya]

Idk why ppl struggle with godskin duo so much

[@seansmith4513]

I have put more hours into D2, specially after the DLCs, then both others combined, not ashamed to admit it. Loved the story. Combat. It MADE fashion souls. Healthiest PVP imo. Only one i could never finish was Sekiro. I HATED the boss fights. Rest of the game was amazing. *Runs for cover!*

[@AtreyusNinja]

14:51 a legit catch with clunky animation because ds2 prioritizes YOUR roll to finish its animation, but yes ez to say "bad hitbox" but thanks for the slowing the video dude so you can clearly see he finished his roll animation = vulnerable 🤣 and you mistake a teleport animation (same problem as sekiro hello) for a bad hitbox, do you even know WHAT A HITBOX IS?

[@realize8405]

its so funny when he keeps talking shit about the hitbox while the slowmo literally proves him wrong

[@jamesking2439]

I like to play DS2 when I feel like raging at basic enemies and sleeping through boss fights.

[@spoopy_vaporeon1815]

Man's angry he never levelled ADP

[@AtreyusNinja]

Probably lol

[@wally-squid7069]

Never needed it myself lol

[@AtreyusNinja]

@@wally-squid7069 i did pvp with 9 adp and it was just fine, right now playing a low agi character cuz i'm a mage (pve) and that other attributes for the slot help too for my iFrames, playing just fine.

[@lordzeke6492]

Shouldn't have ever been a Stat to begin with.

[@Rev.Serenity]

i leveled adp enough to have 95-99 or so agility in early game-ish, and it still didn't make ds2 good for me. game is just mediocre.

[@theflamingredphoenix]

A lot of things he says about ds 2 can be said about all the other souls games as well. Like the thing about the knights attacks. There are pontiff knights in ds3 that have attacks that hit faster than a speeding bullet. Reusing bosses, the shinobi enemies in sekiro there's 4 of them plus regular mobs of them. The only difference between the 4 is uses poison, another has wolves and the last one has a regular shinobi aiding him.

[@ShyGuyTravel]

So what’s your theory then, that Asmon is lying about how little fun he had with the game, or that he’s just not explaining his reasoning very well?

[@0ptimuscrime]

I was nostalgic for DS2. Then I replayed it last year and there was shit I forgot about like the loogie cave leading to the rotten, or the shrine of amana, or the friggen ancient dragon, or just iron keep and it’s entire army of skeleton knights. I like some of the settings and music, and the first time I saw Drangleic castle it was pretty amazing…. Until I actually got inside and had to fight like 5 ruin sentinels.

[@unixtreme]

Especially scholar of the first sin is so bad. Vanilla was better for single player.

[@bludger23]

Yep. enemy placement in DS2 was awful lmao. Plust it was blatantly unfair with traps

[@slippers8000]

When you like all of those examples, perhaps the army in iron keep but that place is so cool.

[@lucasvallet4487]

The 5 sentinel shit is a single room tho, what? You just get the items then get the fuck out of there. Iron keep and shrine of amana are fine too tbh.

[@eddie5354]

@@lucasvallet4487 shrine and iron keep are fine? you are a masochist for saying that. Getting diked by all 4 sides is fun lmao. If you are talking about vanilla than it is true.

[@daveTHEdirty]

"I hate Dark Souls 2 so it's bad" homie should become a game journalist

[@nicolasnoel1388]

I remember when Asmon bitched about the souls community being toxic and overbearing…how the turntables huh 😅

[@spiritanimal7516]

It was my favorite dark souls because of dual wield combos, being able to fight bosses multiple times, dying having consequences, the map being bigger and the weapons having multiple best choices

[@wurgel1]

Asmon: "At the top of the elevater, you have magma" Me as a dwarf fortress player: "As you should have." Asmon: "It's not enviromentally consistent." Me: "You what mate? Of cause it is consistent. How else to you get your magma gysir landmines running to drown a single kobold thief under several stories of Amoks blood? Anything less won't send the right message!"

[@fabioo.dc1]

ah a fellow dwart fortress and dark souls enjoyer, Not many of us exist!

[@Chazz3.o]

ill be honet, i LOVE dark souls 2 alot and i also get mad at alot of the problems but im sure that if somebody can make a remake or actual remaster where i dont miss my attacks because of some weird hitbox then i'd be perfect

[@Echo-vs5ic]

yeah even dark souls 1 remastered still has some jank hitboxes unfortunately, the game would definitely have to be remade

[@Chazz3.o]

@@Echo-vs5ic oh yeah, i think if the graphics could somehow keep that grim darksouls 1 feeling while also being on par with demon souls and like you said fix the hitboxes, it would be PERFECT

[@guyguy7213]

imagine hating a guy because he likes a game you don't like

[@AtreyusNinja]

so true

[@siegebot82]

He's also obnoxious af, I kinda hate the kid too.

[@aleco678]

He just trying to entertain man.. hes not being so serious hes an entertainer😂😂

[@saysalla]

To be fair it's a really shitty game.

[@SP-gd3lz]

15:30 clearly not out of the roll.

[@anthonygen251]

Ironically I actually played and beat darksouls 2 before any of the other games. I had nothing to compare it too so I absolutely had a great time

[@mass-cp6jf]

the ending made me laugh harder than i have in years.

[@kasumimi]

The guy called "Dark Fuck" was the cherry on top.

[@NovaSixx]

I love DS2 bc everytime I come back I end up in a place I forgot even existed. That game is so damn big.

[@heatherpeci2909]

DS2 was my first in the series and that majula music got me immediately. Love the DLC's too and PVP is so fun! I ❤it. I love all the armor sets ❤

[@AtreyusNinja]

hell yeah !

[@soulshunter3831]

Same here !!! Best fromsoftware PvP experience !

[@SamahLama]

Catfish

[@DexGen2002]

​@@AtreyusNinjau been commenting on every thing dudes fanboying a game with a toxic and biased community

[@AtreyusNinja]

e sti cazzi non ce li metti ? @@DexGen2002

[@helbeglin]

6:00 I HATED fighting Belfry Gargoyles but loved learning as I slammed my head on the wall. I finally learned how each one spawned after like 6 or 7 attempts and it was a game of chasing down one guy at a time until they were all dead. It took me at least 15 attempts to beat the Gargoyles but damn was it satisfying to collect my souls that I dropped from the first attempt.

[@linkgold64]

Hate on me but DS2 is my favorite in the trilogy, it's the one I played the most and the one I always go back to play...

[@poutineausyropderable7108]

Ik it's been 9 months, but your comment about you liking ds2 and it being your favorite. Is it your first? People usually prefer their first. Lots of people started with ds2. I started with Sekiro, and it's my favorite. Though most of the people who beat it say it has the best combat.

[@H4LLA]

I prefer DS2 over DS1, the issue I have with DS1 is that every environment except Undead Burg, Undead Parish and Anor Londo is just a chore to do. DS2 on the other hand has more good areas than bad, its just a more "epic" game with great settings, exploration and better build variety. The only issue I have with DS2 is that 95% of the bosses are way too easy. Elden Ring > Sekiro > DS3 > DS2 > DS1 > Demon Souls > Bloodborne (30 fps is unplayable).

[@cruzader3630]

I agree on the most criticisms on this game but the take on ds2 fighting multiple mobs at once is the part where I somewhat disagree. This feature is intentional not to make the game hard but to change the repeated playstyle used in the previous game (basically circle strafing and lock-on habbit). This game focuses on how you will do crowd control while not relying on lock-on.

[@lev1athan763]

You should keep 2 things in mind: 1) People like challenging 1v1s more than unfair hordes of enemies. 2) Not every weapon or playstyle is equipped for crowd control, so your argument makes several weapons and spells useless

[@elijahfyffe5176]

@@lev1athan763Ds2 added more slots to the equipment to allow you to switch weapons to have a crowd option if needed.

[@lev1athan763]

@elijahfyffe5176 That can mess up your equipment load and I'd say it's mainly used because durability sucks in the game so you need to switch weapon (especially later in the DLCs)

[@elijahfyffe5176]

@@lev1athan763 The later games kept this feature, even with ER’s lack of durability system

[@ShyGuyTravel]

The point is, the crowd control is not fun to do.

[@Iamkaden]

Dark Souls 2 is a great game. Got all achievements. We do have Dark Souls 1, 3 as well, you can choose what you want to play.

[@dedde1311]

based

[@Iamkaden]

@@dedde1311 aren't we all?

[@-Krosis]

My first souls game on steam, good lore, good pvp and Majula, i love DS2

[@pupzemli9232]

So bad

[@demetter7936]

I prefer DS2 over DS3, set pieces were much cooler in DS2 and I don't remember thinking any of the bosses were trash. DS3 just felt bland.

[@pupzemli9232]

@@demetter7936 oh boi, how can you be so bad in games

[@Superpollon69Taiga782]

@@pupzemli9232 he likes ds2 for the same reason u like ds3 it was his first souls so you're biased to it

[@aardcx0]

@@demetter7936 u dont think there isnt any of boss were trash in ds2? wow. i think ds2 is the weakest on boss quality in all from software games.

[@Erisno1]

Dark souls 2 is the first game ive played in the fromsoft catalog and it was my favorite until elden ring released. I know the other games are better but the "firsts" ive experienced during my first playthrough would be unmatched and im gonna remember forever.

[@admiralbright7308]

Basically just nostalgia

[@rousrouslan4023]

I played it after ds 1 and god damn 2 is so much better

[@namethefifth7315]

You need to remove those rose tinted glasses my friend and look whith a clear view

[@namethefifth7315]

@@rousrouslan4023 i am sorry 2 is better than dark souls 1. The darksouls one. Are you on somthing right now darksouls one is one of the best fromsoft games ever. Only darksouls games better is ds3 bloodborne and sekiro. Dark souls 2 is literally the worst souls game ever lower than even demon souls

[@rousrouslan4023]

​@@namethefifth7315 this is just your opninion. ds 2 is much better than 1 it's a fact.

[@Lintuxlolz]

I know its a meme but DS2 isnt that bad and him malding about it everytime is gets brought up is just kinda ?????

[@basednappa]

Easy subreddit points from reposts and FromSoft elitists who think they're a minority when in reality they're every other person on the internet

[@Vishnu-zv1vc]

If I had to replay any dark souls game it will be DS2. Even though DS1 was my first game and had the best lore and level design but I never went to ng+. DS2 had the best combat, weapons, and armor. PVP was a blast.

[@AtreyusNinja]

Ds2 pvp is amazing, and is still alive on pc thx to the mod Blue Acolyte

[@jonlocke7112]

Asmon hating on DS2 only makes me like it more.

[@217adaptiveperspective]

Hating on Dark Souls 2 gives me Life

[@danielnolan8848]

The armor was pretty cool, the new spells were neat

[@creolekolbytv1252]

The voice of positivity we all need in our lives

[@ChuckFinelyForever]

It’s a shame people only used one dark spell and one firespell

[@tray84]

@@ChuckFinelyForever-in dark souls 1

[@MrPerfect-q1x8c]

* That one guy in the community who just HAS to be different *

[@Whatever4690]

Those who loved DS2 were probably new to Dark souls, those who came from the first were mostly disappointed.

[@tipsywombatxd581]

I had a ton of fun in Dark Souls 2 PVP back in the day, despite all the other flaws.

[@AtreyusNinja]

if u are on pc just use a megamule and the mod blue acolyte to get back at it, DS3 and Elden Ring PVP is dogsh11t u can't believe how alive is ds2 pc, 1 sec to invade (thx to the blue acolyte mod) and even less for the arena

[@MrRenanHappy]

I love Dark Souls 2, it makes me nostalgic

[@fernandosepulveda7297]

It's a good game

[@namethefifth7315]

Thats about all it can do other than drive you insane

[@JustSomeGuywithEpicGrasses]

@@namethefifth7315 git good

[@darkblood1192]

@@namethefifth7315 Skill Issue

[@TheStraightestWhitest]

@@JustSomeGuywithEpicGrasses It's the easiest one. It's just bad. I ended it with 2 deaths, both by falling damage, and 318 healing items in my inventory. Good game? Lmao!

[@Zerocharade]

Here is the thing, before Elden Ring this is what I thought about DS series, I thought DS1 had the best world/lore, DS2 more fun PVP and cosplay/fun builds, DS3 I thought had the best PVE. Elden Ring kinda combined all 3 for me.

[@darkblood1192]

Except pvp

[@beyondthelol]

pvp in elden ring sucks fuckin aaaaaaass

[@Insp.CountMortisWinshipKlaw]

Elden Ring PVE is just too easy. There is no tension with the threat of invasion removed and the numerous bonfires placed every where. A big dull treasure hunt.

[@erogami6459]

@@Insp.CountMortisWinshipKlaw yeah and as invader, because of how close each grace is, you either invade where a host is just camping grace or they are already at the fog gate.

[@Zerocharade]

@@darkblood1192 I quite enjoyed it, had tons of fun trying different builds and styles, only thing I'm not a fan of is the 10 plus buffs people gotta do before a fight.

[@StayFlayed]

He's hating because the game has a unique feel lol uncommon Asmon L

[@rottenburrito7277]

DS2 was my most played From Software game until Elden Ring came out and I absolutely love it and at the time I didn't knew about how important ADP was. I did a new playthrough this year with that in mind and it was a whole new experience for me. I love the armors too, to many to choose and combine.

[@ZirixStrarstrider]

I love DS2. Until this day, i keep growing my hour count on it. More than Elden Ring. The asthetic, the atmosphere, the weapons, the armors, the combat, the builds. Everything make me love it. Elden Ring is a close second in the almost reaching the feelings that DS2 gave me.

[@---rm8do]

Based. Play what you love

[@Dravianpn02]

Same. I hope one day some mad lads or Fromsoft decide to remake it. It would be better than 3 if it was done right.

[@MrcreeperDXD777]

A fellow gigachad ds2 enjoyer. And a ds2 remake would be fantastic.

[@ZirixStrarstrider]

@@MrcreeperDXD777 I finished so many times, with so many builds... I love every single run i do on that game.

[@ZirixStrarstrider]

@@Augrills Yeah, i'm really sorry. It must be hard be you everyday.

[@ShawnBlaque]

I love how people will complain about literally anything in DS2 even if it's exactly like 1 and 3 for some reason in 2 it's bad lol like the games are known for being cryptic and this guy is complaining about the entrance to Drangleic castle. The 47th most cryptic thing in the series, but since it's in DS2 it's unbearable lmao

[@ShyGuyTravel]

If you’re not enjoying a game, the little things irritate you more.

[@memedaddy793]

I wanna meet him in person and give him a two hour lecture on how fucking great DS2 was

[@JediMindTrix420]

D2 really made me appreciate Dark Souls 1 even more.

[@derekbateman7378]

Dark Douls 2 really doesn't deserve the level of hate it gets from Miyazaki fanboys.

[@aidanisachair]

I love how most of the comments are saying how much they loved DS2

[@spudmaphot]

We're exploring a land that lies beyond a portal through a whirlpool in the middle of the ocean that takes you to a place between realms of existence and we're questioning an elevator being inconsistent? The dimensional stability of the entire universe is thrown out the window during the intro cutscene.

[@cuinnfuller2372]

I have so many fond memory's in ds2 its a great game yes there are always problems in games but i love it

[@KaNoMikoProductions]

It's a terrible game. It's okay for you to like it, but it's fundamentally broken.

[@lilramennoodle8056]

@Queen Bitch KaNoMiko so what? If it took you longer than 3 seconds from the beginning to know what were you going to expect for rest of the broken game then that's on you those to me were just features after a while. Game was an epic journey on its own with so much variety. Kinda like elden ring before elden ring

[@KaNoMikoProductions]

@@lilramennoodle8056 Lmao "It's broken, deal with it" This is your brain on DS2 simpery, folks.

[@KaNoMikoProductions]

@@nickpapado3211 You might be able to, but I certainly can't. The movement drives me nuts, the hitboxes infuriate me, the AI makes me shake my head, the bosses disappoint me, the design decisions baffle me.

[@lazlo4809]

@@KaNoMikoProductions sounds like a skill issue game was amazing had top tier pvp

[@scarvello]

Tired of people hating on this game.

[@AtreyusNinja]

Man, asmo literally Said in this same video: "ds3 lvl design and reused boss fight are fine to me, but i hate ds2 so yeah that's a problem with this game." Like what?

[@scorp1on98]

Ngl the game is a treat if you're a lore hunter, and that also explains away some of the complaints in this video. The Iron Keep being above Earthen Peak is another example of FromSoft's symbolic references to alchemy: ascending through the mercurial (poison, snakes, etc) into the divine (fire, celestial, etc) - they do the same in the other games too if you think about it. And the gate at drangleic made sense, I thought; there's this constant theme of the giants being souls vessels, what with their hollow faces and all the bowl holding symbols, and also Vendrick finding out how to make golems. If you're playing for story Ds2 has one of the best and most poignant endings in the series imo, but yeah, that comes at the cost of being super underwhelming (that's kinda the point) if you ignored the story and were just expecting another gwyn.

[@AtreyusNinja]

imagine expecting another Gwyn X'D oh wait, ds3 LMAO. at least u can't just parry him.

[@ShyGuyTravel]

What a load of waffle. The reason there is no continuity between levels is literally because having had to rework the project halfway through, FromSoft had to repurpose prebuilt levels into an entirely new world layout. Get out of here with that alchemy rubbish.

[@scorp1on98]

@@ShyGuyTravel Just because material was reworked doesn't necessitate the way levels were structured in DS2. For one, it's not hard to at least attempt a structure that would work in a *real* space, but here their intention was clearly to make things follow an irrational "dream-like" shape. - Which isn't surprising because all of Fromsoft's games are in worlds that blur the line between reality and metaphor. Alchemy is just one collection of symbols - one that FS likes to use often - but whaddyou expect when CG Jung's paradigm is the basis for the rules they use in their worldbuilding?

[@ShyGuyTravel]

@@scorp1on98 On the contrary I think it’s much harder to design a level that works from a gameplay point of view and also, by making it seem like it could be a real space, doesn’t violate the gamer’s suspension of disbelief. It’s much easier to paste levels around haphazardly and incoherently and explain it away through lore, alchemy and references to Carl Jung after the fact. The theory that it’s just sloppy game design born from time and resource constraints better explains the evidence.

[@scorp1on98]

@@ShyGuyTravel Sure - you make some fair points. It is harder to construct realistic spaces - versimilitude in general takes effort; but what I was trying to say is that it isn't that hard to achieve. FS could have attached areas in a way that was significantly more "reasonable", and they didn't - not just in DS2 but in their other games as well, because "impossible spaces" are the intention, because they contribute to a goal of symbolism. The important thing to note is that there are enough features that fit a pattern for simple randomness to be less likely. And those features don't just match expectations in Jung, they are the same pattern that you see across all the FS games. I think a fair criticism, however, is that DS2 doesn't do the best job of signposting that the world has a *reason* to not follow rational space. Some better examples: In Bloodborne it's explicit about involving dreams and memories, in DS3 we can see the effect the fire has on the world that is collapsing towards it, and the Lands Between are overtly under a different set of cosmic rules defined by the Elden Ring.

[@toelintetch635]

didn't put enough points in adaptability eh

[@RobertEdwinHouse9]

Just level Edp bro

[@JoeyMostDope]

In my opinion dark souls 2 has the best pvp, also bring back dark souls 2 back stepping

[@RIPCarmines]

Dark Souls 2 was the game that got me into the souls/souls-like genre. But I do recall a lot of bs from my time with the game.

[@likemysnopp]

That is why its a great start. Start of with getting royally fcked thru out a game that isnt that long really but it feels like a long time. Then you feel like the rest of the games are easy.

[@eizo1160]

It was my first ds game i finished, not the first to play, but the first to finish, which also got me into souls gamesm Watched Super best friends play it, seemed they had fun and got it myself. Played it only a few weeks ago to run though all the soul games to 100% and i do not remember the amount of BS tbat is in this game. It really felt like they tried to make a souls like game without knowing what made DS1 so good. And whoever made thise co-op challenge areas and more so that Frozen area needs to be fired lol. It's an okay, game, you can like it, just cant say its a good DS game I feel.

[@mixedmartialnutrition1746]

thats everydark souls they all have issues ds2 had cool weapons and duels the lag was still the same as any souls game just a ghost/lag fest

[@adjuchasbrokk8033]

DS2 had three major flaws: 1: Estus chugging speed and rolling s are tied to the adaptability stat, in order to make it worth putting points in there they had to make the base values for those slower/fewer than previous titles, thus it feels awful to play at low levels and OP at high levels. 2: Lot of places to go but not much in them. 3: The teaser videos showed what looked like HDR lighting (see the knight with torch teasers), the released version had this taken out, so everything looked washed out, almost full bright and it showed off all the ugly textures.

[@Dannykid8]

For the people who REALLY enjoyed dark souls 1.. seeing the old dragonslayer blew my mind. I'm also a little biased as my friend ordered this from amazon, got it a full 24 hours before the actual release date and me and him were running around finding as many secrets as possible on that first night, you couldn't even connect to the servers at the time.

[@halogeak12]

the dlc for ds2 were soo good, plus dark magic was so powerful

[@danlorett2184]

DS2 had the best magic out of the dark souls series easily

[@jo3ble664]

The environmental inconsistency when you don't expect it is kinda magical lol

[@pauls1555]

Yes. Games have to be surreal. Being unrealistic isn't a flaw. It is in other situations certainly not in a fantasy game

[@katsu1715]

i always thought the environmental inconsistency had something to do with the fact that your character is slowly going insane from hollowing

[@fatusopp4739]

its probably more magical when you take a route in a location later in the game that branches out to connect previous places you've been, like valley of the drakes does. makes it feel like a metroidvania. going up an elavator at a windmill and reaching a lava palace did not feel "magical" it made me feel like i was experiencing the worst map design ive seen in a game.

[@elvickRULES]

@@katsu1715if that were true not dying would change the world/level design to be good. But it doesn’t. And dying too much should change it even more. They just didn’t have the dev time to make it better. Why did the dlc have normal level design like Forest of Fallen Giants, I wonder? Where is this hollow crazy cope theory in the dlc? Are you not going hollow anymore in the dlc? Or is it just that they had one director and the time to do it right with dlc (coop areas aside; they’re all trash)

[@katsu1715]

@@elvickRULES i said i THOUGHT that, its not some cope theory, stop misreading just so you can complain more

[@codykolis7577]

Dark Souls 2 seriously was a mixed bag for me, I loved some of these fights so much, skeleton mob and chariot were some of my favorite, I absolutely hated the Throne watcher and defender fight, which sucks because I wanted to like it Having now finished Dark Souls 2's achievements and moved on to Elden Ring, I will say my least favorite part was grinding the Bell Keeper covenant and Sunlight Medals

[@Maelthorn1337]

Woooah that's wild. Dark Souls 2 was the only souls game where I enjoyed PvP so I thought the bell covenant was a blast. Neat how so many people have different views of these games.

[@codykolis7577]

@@Maelthorn1337 To be fair, the small bit of PvP I did was enjoyable enough, but most of that "offline" grinding

[@ohmielevisope4237]

Bro i loved dark souls 2 so much i reached the max ng + and platinumed it. Honestly i love every souls game.