$3,000,000 WoW Mafia That Blizzard Is Scared of

Asmongold Reacts to: Exposing The Botting Mafia in World of Warcraft
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[@tastymcrib9709]

Bot accounts are money for blizzard, that is why they don't ban them. That 14 dollars a month per account is more important to them, than policing the game and making it better for players.

[@wdeborde]

That $14 a month doesnt make you stop paying $14 a month and because of that, why care? Simple Economics.

[@jacobchristensen6235]

Also a lose if people leave the game because of bots - all about mid max to the tolerance

[@RandoCDN87]

They do ban them, but in mass.

[@billybegood466]

@@RandoCDN87 Old Blizzard did, because they cared about their gamers more than making money. New Blizzard doesn't do a damn thing about the bots because $$$.

[@Silent_xM3dusa]

how exactly does one make 2k a month from WOW? what in game machanic make real life money?

[@Tragedous]

remember that old boomkin botting video of hundreds of them running around, and blizzard got so mad at asmon streaming it they phased him out so he couldn't see them anymore instead of banning them. that is blizzards attitude to botting in a nutshell

[@scotte8629]

to be fair asmon is basically an RMT of sorts just makes money via other methods off the game....

[@Itchyknuckles]

​@@scotte8629 the brain rot has got you, brother. How is someone breaking TOS and selling gold from botting a fair comparison to someone streaming/ making videos about the game?

[@saphironkindris]

Yeah, I 'member. I was actually going to go watch that one again after this. It's wild.

[@DistortedChrist]

@@Itchyknuckles That's the whole point. It's not morally black and white. It's ok for Blizzard to make billions selling a non fungible digital currency only usable in their one specific game, but god forbit anyone else also make some money from the game. As far as I can see, Blizzard isn't actually concerned with the bots or RMT, why should any of us?

[@Lurker_Z]

It's absolutely black and white. Blizzard made that product, Blizzard isn't forcing that money out of anyone's pocket, those people think that service is worth it. Botters break TOS, they break the balance of the game, they remove all merit from the game. Those two are not the same. (I'm not a fan of Blizzard btw, but they have the right to handle their copyright as they see fit.)

[@droplo]

Blizzard is making 2million plus dollars each wipe when they have to make new accounts lmfao. Gaming is chalked boys

[@robertposaric6419]

They should do it more often than, no?

[@dont5363]

Do it every 2 days then they be done soon no

[@droplo]

@@dont5363 blizzard won't be making that extra money from the new bot subscriptions then if they do that.

[@paul_hesson]

Blizzard has been absolute garbage for YEARS. Don't even have to say anything other than Epstein.

[@garrett3117]

The bots more than pay for themselves is a major problem. The introduction of the coin every server its available ie most servers & still that profitable after they've driven down gold to 1$ per X compared to the og prices. ..You could pay for your college back then, apparently somehow still can? Amazing this is still that lucrative for a dead game in many people's eyes. Rip the good old bad days when a double cheeseburger was a DOLLAR boys. 5$ hot n ready pizza from Ceasars, & WOTLK was dropping amazing content that still holds up compared to the trash games released today. What a time.

[@mattsen4297]

i love how he has to pause the video every couple minutes to say "i knew that. of course."

[@SevenEssence7]

Quite annoying

[@SevenEssence7]

"Ofcourse they would"

[@jakep5451]

it's giving r/iamverysmart

[@OMGITSMEDUSTIN]

Im late to this video, but I love Asmon but him LITERALLY pausing this video everytime to say "Of course, duh". He is a smart guy, but holy fuck he is not that smart. I ain't a botter or anyone that knows any shit about that, but pretty knowledgeable about other things but nothing about botting. Asmon is just smarter than all of us.

[@akasha5904]

This guy is a genius, first he attracts attention to a wider audience with his quitting video and then exposes the info with this wider audience.

[@Dreamonology]

yeah new meta is to pretend your exposing something in video games and act like its new. lol had the same crap in 2004, botting china or eastern eu farms cant do crap to people, they always make toothless threatslol. Blizz dont care.

[@sergiosegura2024]

you know that if there is a lot of money involved and they could potentially lose that money due to bans, it can't be that difficult to assume of them wanting to get rid of witnesses... we live very secure and think of crime as something distant, but just a few weeks ago there was a score settling for merchandise in my little village and two civillians are in hospital critically interned, i thought my village was a normal spot...

[@aturner488]

@@sergiosegura2024 I personally dont think he should do this, its Blizzards job then there wouldnt be anyone vulnerable at risk, if they care so little screw them and their game.

[@DragonMoth34]

Yeah, something is kind of sus with the whole thing. Bro had like 2k subs when I started following, about 4k when he decided to quit. The entire video I thought was a troll, but then it ended with no plot twist. Asmon reacts and now he has 15k and cwill continue to climb to 50k+ now. Dude has blown up fast and has the perfect formula for it. I'm normally mad at deceptive tactics but if this all was just some elaborate scheme to gain subs, I cant even be mad.

[@sergiosegura2024]

@@aturner488 if did their job and stayed clean, vigilantes wouldn't be a thing... But it's true, it's blizzard job, if you are not doing it for the gamer's sake at least do it out of spite, an entire business is running on your paid infrastructure and you ain't seeing a dime (at least that's what i like to think).

[@ramy-55]

Asmon exposing/bullying Blizzard never gets old.

[@moelali2199]

the vendetta he has from the wow store mounts got to him

[@RemOmni]

Also him explaining the most basic stuff like they wouldn't do it if they couldn't make money off it - no shxt.

[@omarcomming722]

he isn't exposing shit, just react andy-ing

[@NTTTTTT52]

hasnt unsubbed in 20 years btw

[@Nkzta]

​@@omarcomming722Be real, hundreds of thousands of people, possibly a million, would have zero idea about anything that is being exposed in this upload if Asmon didn't react to it.

[@lekrieg8618]

Blizzard will NEVER do anything about this. If the most horrid, crime against humanity results in them making a single extra cent, they wont just allow it. They will encourage it.

[@davidaleksidze3381]

Its “responsibility towards shareholders,” bro.

[@jaden344]

bot are doing nothing wrong except making auction house and gameplay easier

[@kOoSyak]

Be cause it's employees do this

[@nunyabznazzz7429]

lol omg, just go outside and play and all of this will become meaningless.

[@niledemitri3079]

Bots mafia won’t come after you. They’re not that stupid!!!! FBI will get involved. DO NOT KILL OUR TAX PAYING CITIZEN! OUR TAX PAYING CITIZEN!!!

[@Omi_Kasigi]

In the building where I used to work a couple of years ago, on the upper floors there was a Chinese botting farm for mostly Nexon MMOs. They got raided by the local authorities who were accompanied by a few reps from Nexon. A total of over 100 PCs were confiscated.

[@sierratangoandras]

That's so good to hear. Too bad it's rare it happens.

[@LeeboProductions]

Nah, bro... this guy killing 6 bots a day is just an annoying mosquito, but if he encourages 1,000 people to kill more than 6 bots a day then it's a problem. Plus we kill mosquitoes for merely being annoying.

[@RandoCDN87]

He's also doing this crusade on Hardcore classic. So he's being not even a mere inconvenience to them to really care. It also takes being in the right place at the right time, phase, layer, realm & instance to actively find these bots.

[@MidWitPride]

What exactly is the process of going through with it? Let's say they somehow link your WoW nick to a facebook page and roughly know what you look like and the city you live in. What now? Book a flight to some random country you don't know anyone nor have any connections in, wander around like an idiot looking for some neck beard? For them to even link your WoW char to a facebook is a big assumption. Without it the scheme becomes even more improbable. Thing is that if these people were capable of doing real mafia stuff, they wouldn't be MMO gold farmers, but doing mafia stuff for 100x the pay. What they will actually do is spam your discord PMs with obvious links to scriptkiddie malware and send threats for a week and then move on.

[@Gooner9-11]

Its not a problem at all, bots are automated, how many times are you going to spend your days to kill bots over and over?

[@veritasabsoluta4285]

@@Gooner9-11 He is killing bots on HARDCORE, so it makes a massive difference, the bots dying at lvl 55 now have to lvl from lvl 1 again and it takes a long fucking time in Classic to level up. If he keeps doing this and encourages hundreds of other people to do the same, the bot creators will not be making profit per month.

[@Adabulldoya]

I’ve literally never done anything with this game but I wish I could join the fight. I don’t have time with my life right now and I would probably just die instantly lol but good luck brothers my heart is with you

[@hamdinger7145]

Protect Asmongold's editor

[@infinitygamer-un4qq]

Edit whas this yt edit 😂

[@Chen_YaFumo]

Protect Asmongold's Cockroaches

[@Daniil.Petrikin]

Rats too 🐁

[@Cronus111]

Don't worry. McConnell is safe.

[@EIfric]

his editor sucks. constantly yapping and interrupting videos with his ai generated david attenborough voice because he's too scared to use his own. editors should edit the content thats available, not create their own and use their employer's status as a soap box to yap about their own opinions. 0/10 worst editor ever.

[@WhatIfTheories]

Game went to crap when they got rid of GM's and everything became Automated. I remember being able to call a GM on the phone and fix account issues. They obviously would need to do this again and have GM's actively in game zoning in to stop malicious gameplay and bots.

[@Opasen316]

Definitely, this is key to fighting the bots

[@moozel4757]

why pay more for GMs when you can fire them automate it AND earn botter's money? +3,000,000 or -100,000 a month

[@Molsam88]

Naw dude, money moh important

[@NerveFlux]

@@moozel4757 If they were threatening GM's well then that's why they removed them. This is kind of a disaster result from an MMO game. The money could be going to people who hate the game or worse for all anyone knows. But I guess it's easier to assume they are just WoW fans that just love the game beyond its monetary value.

[@lovz2killz884]

But what about bobbys profits

[@Argas108]

I am surprised nobody mentioned this, but botting is actually a crime because I really doubt that income that the mafia gets is taxed, it’s just that simple xdd

[@knockkek9808]

not taxxing it is a crime, not the botting itself. also we dont know if they tax it or not (but likely not)

[@GamerModz123]

"Just make it illegal," yes because, as we all know, if it is written down on a piece of paper and called a law, it becomes literally impossible due to physics.

[@dannyboygoldfish926]

So when will someone make bots that kill the farming bots?, only on pvp realms though. keke

[@dannyboygoldfish926]

listen all blizz has to do is create bots that run around open world and attack anyone plus mobs, fill up the world with more content and also make it a team of bots, 2 bots working together rotating around each map of each faction. If the bot kills a player or a bot it will wait near the corps scanning for them to resurrect and then going in for the spawn gank. Have these ganker bots smarter at killing.

[@dannyboygoldfish926]

Blizz should pull a big move and add AI to the live servers, AI players and AI NPCs. This would actually interest people into coming back to the game. Make it happen, THE NEXT BIG THING!

[@nickmajora]

Video Narrator - "The sky is blue." Asmon - "Well yeah... duh... that's obvious." Me - "Thanks for pausing the video to share that Asmon."👍

[@BigSadSky]

Lol most of asmon reaction content

[@ojurn8916]

Welcome to KZbin pal.

[@xiNerdLordix]

**horrible person does something horrible at the expense of others** Asmon: Well of course they would do that. I would do it too if it makes me a lot of money! Least morally bankrupt youtuber.

[@nickmajora]

@@xiNerdLordix Lol, he says that kind of stuff a lot.

[@doodliedie]

this is so annoying, every 1 minute "duhh"

[@episode389]

The thing is, botting is almost impossible to stop because you're fighting two enemies here: one is the 'mafia' that does the botting, and the other is the players who pay for their service.

[@GripsCardMarket]

and also blizzard/Activision is making money off of every account with an active subscription so they lose money by banning accounts that are paying the subscription

[@Ryyder64]

That's not how free markets work. If there isn't that amount of gold in circulation then prices stay low because nobody can afford anything. The reason this is a problem is because the bots are printing gold. Most things are just vendored and the gold comes out of thin air with no sink to dump it into like mounts and consumables. Basically the bots are creating inflation and making prices sky high = people now need to buy the gold with real money

[@GrzendoN95]

There will come a time where people will simply stop playing games. They'll be left with kids, bots and maniacs. How much money and for how long will they achieve. Unless this trend will make everyone use bots which essentially means pay for Your main char and pay for Your bot just to boost Your main. You used to be able to do this for free or not at all.

[@hammertime9183]

What's even worse is the "mafia" don't get their funding legit. They work with credit card fraud and theft parties who are trying to clean their money. Instead of using their proffits to pay 100% out on subscriptions and costs they buy the dirty money at like 60-70% of it's value to clean it, and use that to pay the subscriptions/costs.

[@Mikoto_Tsukuyomi]

Bro you can stop botting over night if you just make things easier to attain in-game. Truth is devs like blizzard make money off of this and therefore allow it to happen. Seriously, just increase drop chance and reduce rarity. The needs for players to use these services would be gone over night.

[@darkin1484]

Blizzard is here to present you an offer: "We make 2million a month from subs" "You... no sry, We make also fake playerbase report" 🤝

[@Mike_Olee]

In Wrath classic I used to fly circles around Sholazar Basin, killin bots when I was bored. I had a game where I would go to a gathering node, wait for a bot, kill it and see how many bots would try to get the node. My Record was juggling 8 bots ressing over and over to get the node. Eventually, a new bot would get the node while I was busy fighting.

[@KiffJRockka]

Hi, human here. You probably killed me aswell, I'm not a bot but I play like one. 🤣

[@Arthur_Grey34]

When I played a little bit of SoD I would camp bots in the region for a good while every day. Sad how they never received a ban even though I reported them and would camp them for hours between when I was grinding and pking other players.

[@scotte8629]

you were definitely bored LMAO

[@jasonjewell1667]

In regular Wrath Basin made me in game rich with herbalism and mining. I would imagine there are a ton of bots there now.

[@JamesShelnutt2]

if you're not on a pvp server you can't do that - I hate pvp so I never play on pvp servers

[@MaTe386419]

KZbinr: breathes Asmon: of course

[@neptunechariots2299]

KZbinrs: breathes Asmon: of course KZbin commenters: KZbinr: Breathes Asmon: of course

[@Solustos]

KZbinrs: breathes Asmon: of course KZbin commenters: KZbinr: Breathes Asmon: of course KZbin commenters repliers: KZbinrs: breathes Asmon: of course KZbin commenters: KZbinr: Breathes Asmon: of course

[@kurtsshotgun]

duh

[@metalroofer6737]

this my first asmongold video ive seen. hes said of course every time he paused lol

[@TheJames208]

@@metalroofer6737 I've watched a lot over the years, this is the first where I just had to stop. It's like Asmons afraid of coming across not versed in this subject and has to repeatedly remind everyone he knows all this already. Never seen it this bad before lmao

[@fateweaver9844]

I have a friend who did that for approximately 2 years. He ran 10 bots at once. Whenever the accounts got banned he would create new accounts. He was making $3k/month

[@sera_venus]

can you hook me up with your friend

[@metaphysicalparadox]

I never played world of warcraft so like, would you mind explaining what botting really is and how it makes money?

[@captain4318]

Crazy that there is that much money in it. I've no knowledge about MMO's or running bot accounts, but past the initial set up it seems like a fairly easy stream of income? Definitely better than working 40 hour weeks for an equal amount.

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

@@metaphysicalparadox AI farms gold and sells it on black market for USD.

[@wolfis1690]

yea same hook me up with that friend

[@Mista808]

To admit to playing WOW 16 hours a day in any year PAST 2009 is wild AF to me! That man needs to really get off the computer and go live life a bit more than just playing WOW 16 hours a day! Jesus Christ!

[@willnox1]

MMOs are a waste of life...they are fun...but 100% a waste of time

[@cmdxx]

lol why was playing 16 hours a day before 2009 so much better? was that just the year you quit?

[@Mista808]

@@cmdxx huff farts

[@Knightfire66]

Only player can stop botters . Not by killing their bots ingame. That's dumb as hell. Player can stop botting by NOT BUYING bot money

[@zsakfosbolondos4216]

there will be always people with disposable income chosing the easy path. look at call of duty, activision pays bots to post on every forum to deny the rampant cheating problem there are thousands of discords selling subscription based cheat services. online gaming died 10 years ago.

[@saphironkindris]

yeah, but 80% of people out there are mouth-breathers who don't care about anything beyond personal greed. It's why so many countries out there have historically and modernally been full of corruption and shiz. If real countries where your life is on the line can't even stop this stuff, what hope does a video game have?

[@illyaeater]

yeah never happening. people want to be able to skip progress

[@d76458]

Cheap gold sells. Never going to stop

[@TCestarEng]

Only players? Blizzard can get rid of botters any time they want, just make it non profitable for people to run bots, ban them before they start earning money. It is as easy as that, bots are easy to notice, blizzard just doesn't give a crap or is benefiting from the bots

[@MatheusRebelo]

I think the only thing that would cause blizzard to actually do something significant about botting is that if someone actually died from a botting cartel and the victims relatives sued blizzard.

[@scotte8629]

wouldn't be able to be sued as they are not a party to the crime.

[@jacobjester4761]

​@@scotte8629you can sue anyone for anything, just depends on the judge really.

[@Unchainedful]

Blizzard would not be legally liable. There are plenty of cases already of people getting killed by others in real life because of arguments in WoW or fighting over items or owing gold. Parents tried suing Blizzard for these crimes and every court case stated the company is not responsible for the actions of another individual outside of the product. If this was the case, this mean you can sue every knife and gun manufacturer every time someone gets stabbed or shot by the products.

[@pinglankek]

the level of your intellect is not that great, go level up. maybe with a bot

[@real-pyre]

I doubt that case would even reach a judge. And even if it did, any Lawyer, even some intern college student could easily defend Blizzard. There's no basis to sue them in this situation.

[@Honor4All]

You forget Asmon, that a mosquito can cause an infection if left untreated...1 person can start a movement if they're loud enough.

[@sigigle]

$14 * 12,000 = $168,000 per month. * 12 = $2,016,000 per year in Blizzard's pockets, just from this one operation. That's why Blizzard isn't too concerned about trying to bad them all.

[@memeticks3610]

This is kinda like the same situation that happened in Escape for Tarkov, for those that don't know the extraction shooter has an open market that has certain stipulations for trade over the market to combat RMT (real money trading), this is through: >allowing players to only sell items they found in raid. (an instanced PVP match) >limiting items that can be dropped and shared with other players that can be used to boost their account. >Captcha in the marketplace to limit trade speed >removing the ability to sell gear that players brought into a raid, thus removing their economic value from the market. >limiting player trades based on a reputation system. etc. Once there was limited to no money to be made in selling items and in-game currency for RMT the player base in the hacking scene then moved on to paid carry's through PVP content, and account selling which completely DESTROYED the player base along with only digging the hole further with the Dev's themselves trying to sell a P2W edition of the game as an exit strategy, but instead they changed aspects of the edition to no longer be P2W and launched a PVE mode for the player base to keep them playing without quitting the game entirely and losing revenue. Tl;DR: Banning real money trades/gold selling will only cause hackers to change strategy to selling smurf accounts and paid carry's in PVP/PVE content as well as making revenue in ways unknown or unthinkable.

[@warpfrenzy]

That all depends. What if those 12k bots cause 100k subscribers to leave the game?

[@TheEstafista]

Really short sighted thinking there. If there's no real player base there's no one to sell gold to (I dont play WoW but I assume it's mostly gold) and if there's no one to sell gold to - market will die off by itself. So blizzard needs to ban bots well enough that averange player has something to do in the game. There needs to be a ballance for this to actually work dude. This isn't just black and white. If they ban all bots there's good chanse that more players will come to the game and it will be better in a long run, but you will lose consistent stream of money momentaraly and take a risk on long term gain. I dont like blizzard as a company as most of us, but you can't say that blizzard possition is easy to get out of. Even if they decide to eradicate every bot it will take alot of time and recourses

[@sigigle]

@@TheEstafista I agree but there's probably a sweet spot for blizzard where a certain amount of subscription paying bots won't cause a greater number of players than that to stop playing. Which is why I said: That's why Blizzard isn't too concerned about trying to bad 'them all'.

[@TheEstafista]

@@sigigle No company is. Runescape has problem with bots, silkroad online is 80% bots, league has bots, Final fantasy had bots... Dude if game is succsesfull enough it will have bots no matter what the only thing you can do to stop that is battle it head on from early days. Asmongold said that if you have to invest 100$ a month and you make 1,000$ for at least 4 months it is worth to bot every time. But if you had to invest 100$ a month and each time you dont know how long you will be able to bot before you are banned you will deter alot of botters. Think of it this way. Let's say there are no bots in game. Game explodes in popularity and there's bots but they get banned really quickly. We are talking from a min they started up to a 24 hours. So no bot can bot for longer then 24 hours before getting banned, right? People would bot. It would be a battle to foe bot makers to create something that can perform long enough to even pay for itself and if devs kept it long enough they would probbably find others ways or just give up. In WoW case botting is just to old of a problem because they made enough money so even if every single bot gets banned they can start over from 0 over and over. For them to start botting even if every single acc on WoW would get banned wouldn't cost as much as it did to get to this spot. They have the PCs, could. What I am trying to say here is that you can't beat them at this point. It's over. Blizzard didint do enough in early days of it to now be able to stop it.

[@BigSqueeGG]

It's pretty fucking pathetic they can't stop bots. It's almost 2025.

[@Jaegar19Ultima-u9d]

If they can't stop bots they won't stop AI Hijackers.

[@EchoObserver9]

It would take a programmer worth their salt a few month to solve this. Detecting inflated gold and unfair trades would be a relatively straight forward algo to code... If ("player" got "Unhinged amount of gold" in "Extremely small amount of time" from "Player they have just interacted with") Then ("player" is flagged as "potential gold buyer") Punish the buyers adequately and the problem of gold trading is solved... So why does Blizzard not do this?

[@chadbizeau5997]

There's an opportunity cost to try to stop bots. These small agile coders can build bots faster than a company the size of Blizzard could build anything to detect them. So for them it's not even worth the cost. Add that to the fact that they bringing money from a subscription fee. What is the incentive for them to stop the botting? There's clearly enough of a market, because people are buying the gold. Not defending botting but from a corporate perspective. What is the incentive if they are making money?

[@tyrone_shoelace_says]

Current Year!!!!!

[@nonsense0000]

Valve be like

[@BasicMaffs]

Like a hotdog?!?!

[@ExIledstIllSane]

🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@oolavitzoo]

I read that right as he said it lmao

[@bren3233]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[@gacktdirge17]

Yeah that one was poor taste.

[@BasicMaffs]

@@gacktdirge17 Yeah his brain didn’t filter that one out quick enough

[@Rory-m9i]

Holy moly can you stop interrupting to input your bs comments every 2 seconds? How about giving it a minute and saying something funny or original? Every single one of your clips. PAUSE! let me stroke my ego and tell you whats going to happen cause i already watched the video... WOW, that exact same thing just happened every single time! You should start making tarot card content for lonely moms cause your on point 100% of the time. Seriously... I dont even watch your videos anymore and just go straight to the original content instead. Used to be a great content creator but genuinely sick and tired of it now.

[@Lurker_Z]

It's really simple. 1. Blizzard gains a lot from real people buying with real money subscriptions for bots, so they are incentivized to let bots exist. Any bot bans are for show. 2. If Blizzard truly wanted to get rid of bots, they'd just hire actual players who could manually ban bots. Problem solved.

[@niledemitri3079]

OR use one month coins like in retail.

[@davidepannone6021]

Point 2 could be very damaging. Just hire GMs back. If you give random people the power to ban, it won't end well.

[@Lurker_Z]

That is not I meant. I meant hire as GMs people who have played the game. Pay them and tie them by contract to responsibility to use the GM powers in the interest of the game. Obviously giving Random Joe who has over 9000 hours in WoW banning powers without responsibility will end in disaster.

[@davidepannone6021]

@Lurker_Z ah ok, yeah that would definitely work. Sadly it'll never happen because of what you said in point 1.

[@RadiantVibe8]

blizzard onces did something with lua in end of 2019 classic and most windows bots dropped dead. blizzard need bots 1 ban wave and thousnad of bots will just create new accs and pay subs Blizzard could stop stuching bots they would oversaturate market and gold price would drop so hard that electricity and time cost would not handle :D

[@MrLolguy93]

Imagine if these people do something even dumber like going after Asmongold

[@ajhicks9869]

​@@JohnRhinoTheThirdwhat a weirdo worried about where other people live 😂

[@RunninUpThatHillh]

@@JohnRhinoTheThirdshut it.

[@RunninUpThatHillh]

He’s got fishing gear at his house. 2A, rinse and repeat.

[@b_u_n_ny.r_a_b_b_i_t]

Dam it, JohnRhino deleted his comment. Comeback Rainbolt

[@JohnRhinoTheThird]

@@b_u_n_ny.r_a_b_b_i_t it was reported enough to be deleted

[@dakkaza]

Drinking game; everytime Asmon says "Obviously" or "Of course" you take a shot. Outcome: blacked out drunk

[@Ravishrex1]

Challenge accepted

[@SHRI3K3R]

Outcome: dead

[@Artichaulo]

It's common sense, of course

[@bricktop2393]

Duh! 😂😂

[@Xxrasierklinge7]

I don't know what's funnier, Asmon pausing the video every 10 seconds to say "yeah, duh" or Asmon agreeing with a video of himself lolol

[@Crosmando]

I love how the bots only care about Classic because literally no one cares about retail.

[@apocrisy3588]

That's not why. Retail has wow token and with doing so Blizzard removed the mafia and made themselves the mafia, selling gold for real life money, blizzard is doing RMT on retail by themselves and as such bots are not competitive. In classic though, the version of the game that is supposed to be "peer to peer" with no P2W well.. that's a different story. Blizzard don't have their own RMT on it so it's a marketing opportunity for others.

[@Cronus111]

Tell me you never visited Zaralek Cavern.

[@r0njaIsCute]

Because classic players buy more gold lol dad gamer crowd

[@SimonBannow]

We might be desperate but not that desperate! - Bot 2024

[@TheDinind]

Retail is a fucking joke so there's that

[@malohn2068]

Watching Asmongold play armchair "Duh ofcourse" guy is painful. Are you ridiculing the guy making the video or what? Its seriously cringe

[@devnull1013]

The video he's responding to is pretty cringe, so it fits.

[@LoociferZ]

Actually? YOU are the cringe. It's a GAME, buddy. Entertainment. A side kick. If you can't get that from a game then it's time to move move mooooove on because seriously, Games are NOT life.

[@0ptimal]

Agree. Ego boosting noise. Annoying.

[@jamfdgsh]

@@LoociferZ when you didn't even watch the video but jumped straight into the comments

[@joseguadalupemartineztorre9702]

​@@jamfdgshno, because the guy has a point. Botting is an issue in a game, because players are willing to pay for things. If there are less players because of the botting, Botters will leave, but that's going to be a major exodus that will force Blizzard to take action. Blizzard will either deal with the Bots (by creating greater anti-bot software), bring back GMs (doubt it, and the ones they bring in would be terrible), or release a new expansion (to bring people back). But again, if some random guy goes and somehow destroys all the servers for WoW, people would remain largely unaffected because it's just a GAME. It's not an Electric Plant, Public Water, or other necessity. Only Hardcore Players and Game Addicts would cry for the Police to get involved. Most of the stuff Asmon talks about doesn't affect me, like Botting, because I play single player games, but it's still interesting to hear about.

[@micheljolicoeur6094]

"Why should I play the Sheriif of a video game when Blizzard doesn't even care about it", that is a similar thought I had at the start of Dragonflight and that is when I stopped my subsciption and quit for good.

[@mczaga]

Yes Dragonflight Zalarek Cavern was very disqusting , after this video I probably quit the game after 18 years because I 'm playing and enjoying with professions and its for nothing so my gameplay is nothing BOTS are viruses and spread whole game mechanics even Blizzard affacted.

[@erika2995]

This is how I feel about my job

[@MindCrime550]

7:11 no, when you're running 12,000 instances you aren't using a "VPN, or remote desktop" you're uploading an disk image to a cloud service which will run across thousands of server nodes.

[@soghotze]

The reason they won‘t kill him is not only the police getting massively involved. But this would hit the news hard, that a streamer is killed by a botting mafia. And that way Bilzzard could (perhaps) be forced to actual make real efforts in stopping them. Which would cost them so much more money than this guy killing bots (even if people join him) ever could.

[@EndlessTravel93]

You really think they are scared of blizzard? If Blizzard makes an effort against botting they will pick another of the 100th of Video Games where you can sell something... The reason they won't kill him is because he and his mission has 0 impact on there business

[@paulie-g]

No, it's because a bunch of nerds trying to hire a hitman from halfway around the world has exactly 0% chance of succeeding and 100% chance of finding someone who's either a) a cop, b) someone who'll take their money and do nothing, or c) both.

[@derekmartin7097]

At 9:30 bored of hearing asmongold say "of course" every 10 seconds, switching to the actual video

[@AstoundLikesWoW]

Of course

[@alexstreet9470]

It also increases the amount of “players” Let alone the per month fee

[@nakano15]

"Look! WoW isn't dead! Look at those concurrent player numbers!"

[@Booma4142]

6 bots make 2k a month. 333 bucks per bot per month. 12k bots at 333 bucks a month is 3,996,000 bucks a month. Goddamn.

[@rmalaf]

Believe it or not, the botting situation is basically result of geopolitical and macro economics, as someone who bottled before and have access to all the information needed, at a certain point of an operation it always make sense to bot, botting isn’t a crime so there is literally 0 legal repercussions for this in real life, u just risking losing a bit of investment cash on bans with accounts that have game time

[@NightElveee]

ahem, wanna talk?

[@UFOHUNT]

@@NightElveee get a real yob

[@KnownAsKenji]

Similar deal with captcha filling jobs and similar stuff, mostly relating to economics. It pays very very little, but that's still enough in some countries. If it's not paying you enough, then you're probably not in one of the countries the job's meant for.

[@teemumiettinen7250]

I doubt you are paying taxes on the profits you make from botting, which makes you guilty of tax evasion and tax fraud. IRS will take your money and send you into prison for 12 years.

[@thejimcricket]

people say you can't ban the bots because it's 14 a month for them, but you don't think they won't just make another account that same day with another sub. They would be making double.

[@captain4318]

If they would consistently ban bots, they're gonna push these people away. Bots already get banned once in a while and indeed they're just replaced, but if it's a nonstop issue it becomes an unreliable source of income and they'll just take this game out of their pool.

[@MsAAAAAA222]

@@captain4318 bro the bots are never banned you believe blizzard when they say they banned xxxx amnt of bots? that would cost them $$ they are definitely just saying it while doing nothing lol

[@trebortnulb5279]

they dont ban them cause most of them need to be caught manually because the cheat detection wow runs is through the bnet client. theyd also have issues doing a full anti cheat due to the nature of addons and such

[@trebortnulb5279]

@@MsAAAAAA222 ive been caught up in their non sense ban waves. they do happen lmao. PirateSoftware has explained how they do it. they also ban in waves because it boosts their end of quarter numbers for share holders when all those account resub and buy the expansion

[@Meilk27]

I thought it was common sense that they leave them around long enough to remain profitable if they didn't then these people would not bot

[@oybeutu]

I have been a "fan" of Asmongold Cat Danny for a long time. There is one thing that pisses me off that would never gain traction commenting on. He makes it seem based to be unethical as long as it being smart because you can make a ton of money. Every time. Some people need to learn to have ethics though. Let's say you love games. Is it really based to be unethical and destroy your games because you are being so-called smart from making a ton of money? One thing about Danny is he would sell your soul and steel your loot and laugh in your face and call you naïve.

[@blackmendosa]

This is why I no longer play online games like that. Too many people have the same mindset. People are the reason we can't have nice things.

[@Lurker_Z]

He's being sarcastic. He says a lot of the time that being unethical is bad. The few times he says it's based, he's playing it up for the stream in the belief that people realize he's being sarcastic.

[@DeliriumTrigger2]

@Lurker_Z he isnt being sarcastic, *that* is the cope. He is exactly that type of person

[@jsutrov]

Based as a term in this situation doesn't equal moral, just, fair, correct, etc. It's an optimized strategy to accomplish a particular end. Similar to not paying taxes through understanding the laws and codes and utilizing them for your maximum benefit. Many would call them loopholes, shady business practices carried out by corrupt few without care for the masses. Still legal and available to all. Just like labeling actions as 'exploits' carries a negative connotation 'based' may inherently imply positivity however this is not a rule. The scales shift and tip in both directions.

[@Lurker_Z]

@@DeliriumTrigger2 It would be a cope if I had no evidence. Asmon regularly says don't do the bad thing, and then sometimes says over-exaggeratedly that doing the bad thing is based. He's been saying for years that he'll start doing scams, botting, NFTs, crypto etc. because they bring tons of money, and then never does it because he's playing it up for stream.

[@JordanWeber]

34:13 You stopped complaining about bots, and stopped talking about them, but still encourage gameplay with videos. Let the game die, if its a terrible experience deep down. If a company is doing terrible things, and you still support it, but claim other reasons to support it. It still looks like you support those terrible things.

[@GreggoryLannister]

Dude I remember this shit from like 2007. The fact its still such a prevalent problem is wild. I specifically remember it on runescape.

[@KnownAsKenji]

Same with Ragnarok Online. You can play the entire game by left-clicking, and there was no comprehensive Protection software, so it was very easy to bot. I don't know about mafias, I'm not aware of how coordinated they were, but there were definitely lots and lots of them, seemingly only limited by the game world itself being fairly small.

[@MF_Walmart]

When I was 12 me and friend were so confused as to why there was a platoon of green tans seamlessly picking and depositing flax. Never understood till like 7 years later

[@johntaggart91]

RuneScape actually fixed it's botting problem. You can't even play 6 hours without getting kicked off. Osrs fixed its problem

[@IronMaidenDoD]

ive been mass reported by botters to the point i got perma banned

[@EternalAngel333]

x to doubt

[@Ferrivia]

x

[@Nova-TechnoLAB]

Shock: Blizzard enables it to happen and takes a cut from the mafia....

[@deathtakes]

I don't know if you're saying this in jest, but I wouldn't doubt this being the case.

[@getoffendedwokeleftieweako]

they are getting their cut from the month subscription of the accounts the botters are using

[@demigod8522]

I can see why Blizzard would let this happen and keep only doing waves. Blizzard cares more about forcing the botters to pay for new account subs whenever one batch of bots get banned.

[@seanbravo306214]

There is no point for this guy to watch the video, he already knows everything about everything it seems.

[@debaser1118]

fr hes so smart

[@jondonnelly3]

Remember the demand for Gold is almost insatiable. If it was not so then botting on a massive scale would simple not happen. You want gold, they provide it. You want boosting they provide it. You want items they provide it. You want candle they take candle for you.

[@NunyaBiznezz-q2v]

Sounds better than doing an honest day's work. These guys aren't evil, they're just better at the game of life than you are.

[@Lurker_Z]

It's not honest because it's violating TOS (as much as Blizzard wants them to violate their TOS). I don't think boosting is bad. As long as another player spends as much time as me leveling up, I think it's fair. If he's going to pay for it and we arrive at roughly the same level at roughly the same time, I don't care.

[@d76458]

​@Lurker_Z who cares about tos lmao. If the tos said you can't breath would you do it

[@Lurker_Z]

I wouldn't sign it. Well, Blizzard should care about TOS and ban all the cheaters. D'oh!

[@ProxyTetris]

I used to help a guy sell his items in D2R. At one stage he had 360 bot accounts running on 15-20 PCs, the loot filter can be set up very easily and even sends him an email notification when a valuable item is picked up. The expensive stuff goes to auction, the most he sold for one item was over 10k rmb which is about 1.5k usd. He never got banned

[@qlida4465]

There is a reason i refuse to give blizzard any money. This has been a massive issue since i started classic in 2019, in WOTLK due to bota DK bots inflation was about at 100% in a phase, no chance casuals could keep up.

[@jaronandnat]

same here. once any company is acquired by a much bigger company, it always goes to shit. can't think of an example where that isn't true. turtle wow is pretty sweet by the way. free and much less pay to win than a wow token game

[@EarthMan-hx3xb]

Good job king i deleted my account also because of this

[@jarvisifyable]

I grew up as a Runescape player and only played Wow the last 4-5 years. I remember when I swapped over to play Classic and Shadowlands, I thought it was crazy that multi-boxing and botting mattered so little to Blizzard and were allowed just because they pay for subs. I also don't understand why they ever allowed macros, but that's another topic. RS has always had issues with botting, but they at least regularly ban people. Blizzard just thanks them for paying a subscription.

[@InfiniteMonkeysSA]

I was in Stranglethorn Vale last night on Classic Anniversary, doing the hunting quests, and there were dozens of Alliance bots running around, mostly mages. I was literally fighting them off so that my gf could kill quest mobs. At one point I killed two bots who attacked a crocolisk, only for a third bot to kill it before I could kill them and get the tag. It was ridiculous.

[@fixsilverbird]

I'm surprised people buy that much gold in a game. Why would they even risk giving personal or bank information to the people selling it.

[@bretthasbrouck9808]

Several times in my life I’ve gotten a credit card replaced, probably because I offered it on a gold site.

[@NunyaBiznezz-q2v]

Back in the day I paid to have my first alt power leveled because it was a PITA to level back then and it cost very little to do. iirc it got banned about ~75% of the way to completion but I got it back by emailing Blizzard and took over the account again, then finished leveling myself and played the char through like the next 5 expansions.

[@DJToMyHits]

They're buying rmt, making smart choices is not part of their thinking

[@Shiirow]

people are lazy, and lazier they get, the more they will buy gold.

[@hubert1142]

You can create a virtual card in seconds just for a specific one time purpose/purchase, there's zero risk.

[@jannieboucher9856]

i believe this purely on the fact when our family got relocated due to Military, i went from NEVER getting my WoW account hacked to suddenly having it getting flagged TWICE A MONTH while we were stationed in South Korea... they do NOT joke around over there when it comes to gaming/electronics.

[@coltx64]

easy to solve, just make it possible to buy gold with real money ingame, I mean if the demand is there to buy gold, who cares if the people bot or not, Blizzard earns on the accounts, the botters earns from demand, who cares

[@contaim7227]

No, because then the company might as well sell you gold, and damn thats a whole new meaning of corrupt, they can spawn in this fake money unlimited.

[@kylemilford8758]

You buy tokens and sell it for gold, or if you're smarter you buy gold and buy tokens for subscriptions instead as it's cheaper that way.

[@masterchief2303]

12k bots is 180k for blizzard a month plus a active 12k players to go back to investors with.

[@PigPissBeUponThem]

It’s also very Illegal.

[@tja4379]

@@PigPissBeUponThem how are bots illegal? selling gold for actual money might be illegal but you don't need bots for that

[@AndyRock1]

​@@tja4379 it's been settled in a court of law, which blizzard led the charge for in the past!! Glider bot is an example. Blizzard took the Glider guy to court, and had to convince the judge and jury that he was automating game play which wasn't enough to sue, BUT they also showed it was for a monetary gain, because he was selling the bot AND then the users were selling the virtual currency. So it was decided in California Supreme Court, it was unlawful to break the terms of service in a use license agreement, I. E. The agreement blizzards forces you to agree to prior to logging into wow, and then use their product for monetary gain.

[@masterchief2303]

​@tja4379 nothings illegal just against tos of the developers which will get u banned. But nothings technically illegal.

[@kayreal1273]

@@PigPissBeUponThem Botting is not illegal nor is selling gold for real money. The only illegal aspect of it would be not filing taxes on it.

[@avereth]

In Vanilla I used to drag dragonkin elites around in Burning Steppes making them cleave and fire nova hunter bots until their gear broke from repeated deaths on my paladin. It was really fun.

[@calic737]

botting wouldn't exist if people didn't buy what they're selling

[@Jadee95]

100% this the people who buy the gold are as bad if not worse than the ones selling it

[@SaltyNard]

Supply and demand, they'll always buy, so there'll always be sellers. If they wanna fix it, make the game less grindy. They ain't gunna do that lmao, they'll pad shit as much as possible for player retention scores.

[@unbr3akable688]

@@SaltyNard All it would take is for blizzard to make an announcement. Perma-bans for all gold-buyers followed by a big ban wave. Now way less people want to buy gold all of a sudden.

[@SaltyNard]

@@unbr3akable688 Yeah it's easy, but Blizzard won't do it, because all accounts cost a fixed amount per month to play the game. Fixing this problem for players means Blizzard makes less money.

[@dylanlamarre3768]

One of the major points that get overlooked as to why Blizzard isn't aggressively banning bots is that the entire concept of MMORPG is based on needs and desires: as a real life human being, you need water and food, and you desire, say, Porsche 911. But say, as a fast food worker, the Porsche 911 is so unattainable that you aren't even gonna work harder at Wendy's because getting promoted to Night Manager isn't gonna get you any closer to buying the Porsche. The WoW economy is so inflated that most items that players desire are unattainable by regular means. Without buying gold, a lot of the players would just quit. But buying gold actually puts those items within the realm of possibility. So the whole botting / selling gold thing actually helps Blizzard stretch its content because players are now more motivated to get into the game. Also, in psychology, we understand that one big factor in opinion forming is commitment. If you have committed hugely into an activity, you are more incline to feel like you are part of that activity and view it positively. There's also the sunk cost fallacy: you spent real life money on this (buying gold), you can't just walk away and quit now. There's nothing as powerful a commitment as real life money. All in all, since the content-creation of WoW has already been in decline for years, this botting economy is actually helping Blizzard to keep players in the game.

[@its.araragi]

Remember guys, Blizzard is enabling this. The more they make the game p2w through gold, the more profitable botting is. Retail is at an all time high rn with huge gold sinks just to do the current content with not a lot of ways to make good outside of proffesions. You will spend on average over 1k gold for 1 m+ dungeon, just to maybe be rewarded 50 gold at the end. This is by design.

[@reedschadegg9023]

Can sell carries in m+, can flip items on AH, can sell pvp carries, can farm honor to sell the pvp socket item, can sell afk leveling..... There are plenty of ways to make gold in retail....ppl just buy the gold token cuz it's easy and faster.

[@its.araragi]

@reedschadegg9023 and where do you think people that buy carries get the gold from ? 🤔

[@Andrewf5251]

2000 bucks a month ? bruh its like 2x times the average salary in my country :D . shiet i should start botting . c ya .

[@keeferChiefer]

If you’re not a programmer or have a team alongside you then it won’t be as easy as you think. This “WoW Mafia” is likely a small team of programmers which is why they’re so successful.

[@stanleylutzow3132]

@@keeferChiefer or you could enter their community and learn how to bot. I got a friend who bots WoW back from 10 years ago, didn't know he can make that much....

[@zsakfosbolondos4216]

there are probably discords with small time programmers or wow dews selling bot programs with a monthly fee, then you pay wow subscription, then you run them in hopes of making back what you paid. truth is botting and farming resources is only profitable, if you been there from the start and know everything about the game and community. wouldnt advice anyone to sink in thousands of hours in the hopes of making money. there are probably thousands of indians at this very moment doing just that.

[@DrHuxley-]

​@@keeferChiefer You can literally pay for it. You don't have to know anything but the game.

[@saphironkindris]

@@stanleylutzow3132 I doubt they're looking for more ways to split the profits tbh, I imagine you're more likely to be run out of town by them than welcomed with open arms.

[@Flowercatooooo]

Its funny to me how Blizzard becoming incredibly greedy lately has lead to the destruction of their beloved franchises.

[@Pers0n97]

"lately" Bro, its been more than a decade they have been on thar path.

[@The_Dacian]

Bro it’s a 20yrs old game :)

[@AverageYTer]

You think blizzard is going to give up 200k a month? Not a chance. They’re doing enough to say “we’re doing something about it” but not enough to fix the issue. They don’t want to fix the income.. ahem.. sorry.. issue.

[@Verrathian]

2K USD A MONTH???? Alright bro I think I might have to look into this.

[@erwins_arm]

Yep

[@DeeDee-bm9hr]

Interested to see what can be made in poe2

[@Arcidi225]

Take into account that you are working for Mafia. Take into account, that they won't let you work for them if they don't have your full info. It's not as good as it seems I would guess.

[@zackmorris1419]

@@Arcidi225 you don't work for them, you do it yourself

[@kimmogensen4888]

@@Arcidi225the Swedish guy was independent, his setup was not the same as theirs, and just farming gold and monitoring 5 bots so they don’t get killed all day sounds boring to me, and in Sweden it’s not a lot of money only enough to pay the bills and food, it’s not even close to average wage, but if you are from a lower income country then 2000 dollars a month might be worth all the gold farming

[@justdudu89]

Tbh the reason Blizzard doesn’t care is cause they still pay subs and they can show shareholders higher numbers. As long as people keep buying gold and boosts and stuff this is gonna exist.

[@sabrinael-abd459]

I'd imagine this would look worse. Yes, we get many new accounts every few months, but we have awful retention :D :D

[@odiumhh]

Exactly subs = income and active "player" numbers that's all the investors and shareholders care about. People that think blizzard actually cares about players is lacking in the active brain function. You wanna stop it everyone stop playing for 3-6 months watch reality hit blizzard hard AF. If you don't hit em in the pocket they will never give AF.

[@TotalMurloc]

@@sabrinael-abd459 They only ban in waves after the end of a fiscal quarter, so it doesn't impact the retention rate nearly as much. usually on 3-6 month tables. Truth is the money made from Token sales (Because the bots have mangled the economy) is 100 fold what they get from the Bot's actual sub fee's.

[@yle_coyote4178]

Once again, this is blizzards fault.

[@MissionControl-]

Except no game can really do much against bots. Just look how many games they are doing it to.

[@MW92.]

Can you explain what bots do? I’ve actually no idea

[@reedschadegg9023]

It's blizzards fault these ppl bot in new world, Poe and swtor?

[@pawa3280]

You can, its easy, you watch the Bots 24/7 and Just ban them. 3 people per Server 8 hours per Shift. Ez

[@Raidoser]

@@MissionControl- That's wrong, you can't delete bot from existence but you can make it so only a determined minority want to do it making it more controllable. It's blizzard own fault for this situation, there was always bot IG but it was pretty discreet (because it wasn't "legal" and GM existed back then), it got out of hand when blizzard decided to add the token (which was normally mean to kill bot/farmer business, lol) this same token is also the reason for the insane toxicity IG because people aren't playing a game, they work a job to sustain their addiction...

[@sirtainlee8725]

Are there enough single players in the world to support all the popular games in the world? If modding were banned, gaming developers would add bots themselves to maintain their servers. Ban the bots, the servers die, then the game dies.

[@craigboden9455]

I know a lad who worked for blizzard, and another big gaming company as well. He's told me, these big botters in gaming, the ones who always seem to get away with it, are 90% connected the to devs or gaming company they operate in. There's always going to be a demand for in game assets to be sold for real world money. It costs A LOT of resources to combat it. Unless you are it, then it makes you the money and resources to deal with the ones you want to get rid of and deal with. Edit: to add to this now I watched to the end, how do you think they get peoples details so easily? Because you use their game and they know everything about you.

[@cajampa]

Very interesting I suspected this always. And it is the same with Valve they all get kickbacks from the what ever profits these massive organizations are doing on their platforms. In Valve's it is all the casinos for example playing with CS skins filled with underaged people.

[@anythingpipes3722]

Oh that would warrant FBI if they are sharing payment details from credit card payments

[@cajampa]

@@craigboden9455 Very interesting, I have suspected this for a long time. For example Valve how they have a huge illegal economy running but they don't shut it down. I bet they get kickback

[@craigboden9455]

@anythingpipes3722 prove it without them blaming it on someone else or a security breach. That's the problem. They probably make more money from this than anything else they do between expansions.

[@scotte8629]

@@anythingpipes3722 FBI for folks who don't live in USA.... got it... there's a "not how the real world works" vision you are missing.

[@alprimario5429]

Towards the end of my wow career, I was in a sweet equilibrium spot where the monthly gold I made during regular gameplay paid the gold I bought a monthly card for.

[@emred4653]

honestly botting and getting money seems so tempting. My country doesnt use dollars so even getting 10 dollars is like 3 meals worth of money

[@illyaeater]

yeah. but it's also not the botter's fault, it's the people with money that want to skip the effort of the game.

[@karenamyx2205]

​@@Fergus-H-MacLeod That's what you took from his post? That life is BETTER in those struggling countries? Wowzers.

[@Darth0308]

​@karenamyx2205 yeah dude, people do this, idk how people are so ignorant to the American dollar in other countries. I know dudes in Texas that work and go down to Mexico and buy super nice houses for their family super cheap cuz the money goes farther and you don't hear them complaining about the cartels.

[@bashvash]

​@karenamyx2205 Way to use the leaning opportunity to shame them instead of teaching them better. Wowzers.

[@Reelix]

Zack is saying that if he earned what you earn, he would bot. What does that tell you?

[@TaylorYetman]

We have a booster from taiwain on our server that we call "rooster booster". He always has a rooster cockadoodledooing in the background whenever he is on discord and begs us for money lol. Solid ZG boosts though.

[@jacobstamm]

All Blizzard needs to do is create a few servers that require real ID verification to gain access to. Let the players decide which they prefer.

[@Lishkabro]

South Korean MMOs had this from what I recall. I was attempting to register for their Korean release before NA release, and was met with a Real ID requirement. Not sure how it is now, but there must be some variation of an ID we could create and utilize.

[@IronMaidenDoD]

all blizzard needs to do is have one of their employees create a character, monitor the game. its EASY to find botters. the truth is they dont want to do anything about it despite saying theyre doing things about it. they dont care.

[@Opasen316]

​@IronMaidenDoD this is the real resolution

[@BrxIghtside]

Your eyes have to be fully open

[@jacobstamm]

@@Cutlas Personally, since it would effectively end botting, I would be okay with it. Again, they could require it for only certain new servers so players who don’t want to provide ID don’t have to, but at the cost of having bots.

[@HighPointReviews]

From encouraging Insurance Fraud to Highlighting how lucrative botting games are and saying you would do it 😅 , quite a streak Asmon is on these pass few days. Where his dad at to check him on this shit

[@Sheepdog_Alpha]

Asmongold isn't accountable for anyone but himself.

[@buddhamaster322]

Clearly he was raised without a father

[@Sheepdog_Alpha]

@@buddhamaster322 He has an incredibly strong relationship with his father, and always tells stories about him when growing up. It's clear to me that you don't know anything about him.

[@EEAMD-co6nw]

"if I didnt have a job..." cmon , we all know that being a streamer cant compare with a real job

[@Pers0n97]

It takes his time in exchange for money. That's literally what a job is.

[@EEAMD-co6nw]

@Pers0n97 you truly are right, its in the way he said it I found humorous. Note that I said "can't compare", I did not say it was not a job.

[@megapro125]

He's the owner of a system integrator company (Starforge) and a content creator agency (OTK) and maybe more that we just don't know about.

[@Clorox_Cleaner]

I like how every time there's a clip about some shady, illegal practices he would have 100% done it... 🤣🤣

[@kingdomdom1]

"This will be my last video." 2 days later "So Anyways"

[@senseicorey9979]

People in all areas of entertainment do this. Announce a retirement so everyone goes "oh no, you're the best, don't retire " Pump their ego up ....professional fighters do it all the time..... Tim Pool just did it a few months ago....

[@kimmogensen4888]

People get scared 😱 have you ever tried to get a storm of messages like that from people who is losing their income?

[@buddhamaster322]

Weaksauce

[@RadiantVibe8]

mostlikely got bullied by some nerds with 100 accs at home :D

[@Pers0n97]

Yeah.... I respect the guy for raising awarness on the topic, but the tryhard way he is doing it, by making fake "last video", pretending he is scared for his life or act as if the very basic boting technics he is describing are a shocking dark secret is just cringe and a clear grift.

[@noerden91]

the bots dosent take away from blizzards profits so they dont have an insentive too go after the bots blizzard only spends minimum amounts hunting down bots but they earn more from boter buying new accounts so its a win win for blizzard

[@starcraftyschannel1926]

I remember receiving these sorts of threats on WoW, you just send back even more insane threats and then it's usually over.

[@beatsbybrazy]

I was gonna say the same. No mstter how crazy these andys think they are theres always someone more crazy

[@Hairybuffalo]

i say bullshit, no one threatened him he's just trying to scare players into not messing with the gold buyers.

[@starcraftyschannel1926]

@@Hairybuffalo Absolutely agreed

[@starcraftyschannel1926]

@beatsbybrazy Well, that's the tactic. They don't know if I'm serious or not. Sort of switch the roles on em

[@Dogwalker447]

@@starcraftyschannel1926he more than likely got threatened lmao I’ve heard plenty of stories about people getting death threats over just bot hunting so.

[@LucasKing-c5y]

Boosteroid has solved so many of my gaming frustrations. No more expensive upgrades, no more lag, and no more dealing with hardware issues. It’s everything I need in one platform.

[@ElMartilloBlanco]

28:13 - This is exactly right. I've had this happen to me. The scammers sent me my parents' address, names of my family members, told me they were going to kill my family and come after me if I didn't send them money, etc. It's very intimidating in that moment when they have personal information about you. It's not like a typical loan scam call. And the local police won't do anything about it because it's not considered a legitimate threat unless someone actually shows up.

[@blackzero786]

Huh sounds like 1940s Germany all over again to me.

[@samsmith2176]

When?

[@Dogwalker447]

How did they get your info?? Did you click a link they sent or join their discord? Or can they just pull your info whenever they want?!?

[@DBIllusionaryMoon]

In 6:51 the pet's name "野猪" is Simplified chinese which is used by Chinese. So I don't think they are Taiwan Mafia. In fact, WoW Taiwan server's economy is damaged a lot by chinese players during DragonFlight

[@ywsx6489]

they pretend to be Taiwanese when committing crimes.

[@ivenchung5060]

Idk man. There’s little difference between traditional and simplified Chinese of the word 野豬, i can’t tell which one it is due to quality

[@ghosti79]

WoW is the #1 botting game. It has more bots then players

[@MikeyJ28]

Blizzard doesn’t ban them because they can’t. Warden was an effective piece of software for anti-cheat detection 20 years ago but it was deemed too intrusive.. and it was. Warden could, at the time, feed modules to your computer if you allowed it onto your machine. One bad actor could really do some damage to you. The fact is, Classic makes Blizzard barely enough money to justify its existence, let alone hire Game Masters.

[@Justadonkey]

I thought Taiwan was a highly developed country with superconductor technology that exceeds our own?

[@Tschacki_Quacki]

Why do you think they're so good at botting? 😅

[@apoli3030]

Taiwan, russia and china is notorious of their bot farms in any mmorpg. China is probably the biggest.

[@ComicGladiator]

It's cute that you equate a country being good at something, with its citizens getting good wages.

[@製仗哥布林都毋下陷]

In Taiwan , not only bot mafia , they are good also in scamming and it is run and protect by current party who is running the government (called DPP). when someone caught abroad, when they escort back to Taiwan, DPP just literally release them.

[@kimmogensen4888]

The GDP like South Korea is only 50% of the USA or Northern Europe, 2000 dollars in Sweden is like 4000 dollars in Taiwan, it doesn’t mean they are poor it’s a developed country but some countries are very rich

[@Frutkicc]

Once in Dragonflight i stumble upon a druid in cat form. Behind him there was like 5 other druids in cat form following him. When i realized it was a bot i wanted to look at him closer to see what he was up to. MF turned invisible and all of his companions too. What a great way to use druid

[@jerrygreenest]

Imagine Blizzard will ban all bots. The worlds will be empty

[@chadbizeau5997]

If that's the case, then who the hell is buying all the gold? Lol

[@jerrygreenest]

@@chadbizeau5997 yeah you're right, there is a percentage of real players. But if they won't be able to buy the gold anymore, do you think they continue playing?

[@LichlordKazam]

@@chadbizeau5997 Sorry that was me.

[@anraiduine1483]

the part of this whole setup that really messed with my head was when he said at 18:38 "if you're producing coke, all the way up in Eastern Plaguelands"

[@Raziel699]

hmm. someone at wow involved? i mean 3 million amonth makes you wonder. automation detection tools

[@TAGGdinc]

5:25 it’s not that complicated bro it’s plain supply and demand and economic theory

[@leonsqueezy8691]

"its just a fking video game " the video game :

[@KeithDCanada]

I remember one of the more tech savvy friends in our group, back in the early days of Everquest ONLINE, had bots set up to farm gear drops for in game fast cash. He wrote a program that would read the game code, and could tell which creatures in a Zone were set to drop rare loot that would sell for premium at a vendor. His bots would run around the zone killing only the creatures that had the premium drops - screwing everyone else grinding in the zone trying to get a quest drop or a gear upgrade. He had the bots set so that if anyone sent them a whisper, they would camp an log out automatically.

[@zerooath]

No he didn't

[@Cahnisama]

Give-me the option to play in a server / queue that required real-id. It would also nuke cheaters. Multiplayer competitive Gaming is unsustainable as it is.

[@Shelfen]

Mafia gang would easily get real id’s passport pictures no problem, it would just add another step to their account creation, wouldnt do much.

[@g60force]

yes but they are already leaking your shit due to hacks... so with actual ID i would feel safe if they had mine cuz I don't trust them to be secured enough! even my DUTCH government website uses DigiD it does have 2FA connected to my phonenumber but those can be spoofed right?? I'm just a small fish so they leave me alone but if Asmongold had to verify his ID for sure hackers would love to get their hands on it!

[@MrVideoScape]

Nobody is gonna murder anyone. It would be really dumb if they did. 1.they can just watch his videos and find the motive. 2. Easily track who he was talking about and the bots he interacted with. 3. Track them down and eventually get them for murder, especially if they are putting physical death threats in his mailbox. Dude has nothing to fear from dogs that bark and have no bite.

[@iExcIuded]

Dark web. They are from another country. Use your brain....

[@Shiirow]

they dont need to bite, he has already proven that he is more of a nuisance than an actual threat. Bot ban waves are more of a threat than his bot killing theatrics.

[@KnownAsKenji]

Look at this CSI watching guy, as if all cases get this much attention lmao. You're right though, it's still a risk.

[@Billy-vi8nu]

We should be more concerned with the advertisement mafia. I watch an ad, then there's another ad 1 minute into the video. This is why people use adblockers. EDIT: And another ad 4:45 later. No more ad money from me.

[@Pers0n97]

This guy is very over dramatic, telling you what he is about to describe to you is so scary it gives him goosebumps... to then describe you the most basic stuff you could imagine about mass bot systems. Bruh.

[@flor.7797]

Yeah totally ridiculous

[@tigrisrick2983]

Nice. A new vid from baldy

[@erwins_arm]

Aye :)

[@Yamototamto]

How do they extract that money? I mean im new here and dont know this but how are they extracting real life cash from account? Do they sell gold for account ballance? or sell battlenet accounts? how does that extraction of virtual wow goods for real life money work? Can somebody pls explain this noob question? ;/

[@strider8662]

There are websites that sells wow gold for money. They also tend to have regulars that buy from their discord.

[@Yamototamto]

@@strider8662 ow so they collect all the gold then person who pays real money on website gets gold transfered via character? ok thx for explaining

[@614BlueBerry]

This is the same issue with Runescape, these companies won't get rid of bots because they buy membership, that payment is more important than making the game having no bots.

[@bossmanebz]

So this guy really thinks this taiwan wow mafia is gonna go after him as if he's important enough to risk their business model lmao... Total overvaluation of his own importance and lack of self awareness

[@RandoCDN87]

He's also primarily hunting bots in Hardcore classic. All he is doing is not even causing a slight inconvenience. This is why I frankly don't believe him or his "death threats". Show some damn evidence, put up the actual live footage, hire a private investigator. Dude made a video saying this would be his last, 5 videos later still making vids. He's baiting sympathy. Heck, I wouldn't even be surprised if he was the one behind hunting his own bots for clicks. You have to be at the right place, at the right time, in the right layer, phase, realm & instance to see these bots farming. I've been playing WoW since BfA, and have only encountered bots twice in my entire playtime.

[@atelierbagur3831]

​@@RandoCDN87 found the botter!

[@dont5363]

@@RandoCDN87 Lol huge issue for people playing the game il fully support him hope he gets lots of traction

[@Dvinyard69]

Bot filled games=Shit games Imagine using your skills in a practical manor, build your own business if you're so great or become a top earner for these gaming companies. This is not it.