This Guy Lost His Job To AI.. I Wanted To Hear His Story

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[@maverickbonato8164]

"Computer science was going to be replaced so the second I knew about AI, since I'm smart, I just dropped out. Then, since I'm smart, I got good at a simpler text generation job" what't the logic there lmao

[@christianalanwilson434]

I think the lesson here is that he's not very smart/motivated. The lowest rung workers are always the first to go.

[@wanderer316]

he said something about ai not expecting AI to be creative

[@Mayhzon]

This is what happens when you actually listen to all the techbros hyping AI fake narrative up. Muh guy didn't realize they're just trying to cash in on retail investors and tech-averse CEOs. Never take the bait.

[@mateuszkolacki1704]

I'm a computer infrastructure engineer - that job is not gonna be replaced by AI because I built the things AI runs on. Just gotta build as skill that won't be replaced easily

[@macesith]

Someone has to code the robots

[@estycki]

I'm a graphic designer / web designer. I have clients who don't even know how to copy paste. Half the time they call me just to ask me to google something for them. You can find work. The frustrating part is when you see your clients use AI and they send you hot-garbage renderings and they're so proud of themselves.

[@Keyr969]

just wait till the normal guy can write something simple for generative ai and something useful comes out of it. Just takes time. Currently you need to do alot of things to get something useful out of generative ai... your job will be replaced question is just when.

[@edgewrld]

wait till his competitors know AI beat him in the market...

[@Ludak021]

You think that's going to last for you?! One day they are going to have a phone that will engage with them and they wont have to call you at all. Hell, they can have this right now if they had and iphone and said "hey siri" ... Better get a new skill, soon.

[@deathdeliveryv.r601]

I couldn't sign into my email even with a saved password. My Google personal assistant has made 3 companies useless and now a credit to my account every month. We don't use it for anything else, not for calls, customers, sales, or even the work produced for the client. A.I. has replaced the companies charging 1k or more a month for a 50 dollar app with lack luster advertising and organic photos. A.I. is great. I and this thing get done an army of employees work before they even come in. They were so happy their workload went down. They were so happy they didn't have a bunch of work to do. The whole time having more free time and less work just hanging out. The whole time, they had zero clue. They were celebrating their replacement. They literally showed how useless they were and ignored how to become valuable again, by learning systems and becoming an asset. Listen, if you can use it as an employee, then the owners can use it too. Look stop complaining your asking for free time, you got it, you ask for less work, you got it, you ask for change, you got it, you want to hold companies hostage, we made the change. From movies and music to business, advertising, business writing, cubicles, and much much more are all gone in less than 2 years. Truckers done, landscapers done, the real trades will rule the day and pay awesome. Watch their will be a line around the corner for manual labor. By that time, there will be no openings, and your college papers will be used for warmth. All you soy boys better start walking a couple of miles a day in the heat and get used to it. Streaming is about to die as well. Now, when this happens, it will push 5% of our wealth through the roof. I have saved over 900k in cubicle pay. All asking to go out in the field!!!!! Can't fire the gorillas for tumble weeds to hold progress hostage and the clients. People are so replaceable and they have zero clue.

[@estycki]

@@Ludak021 you could say that about Google, but these people call me to Google it for them, so they’ll likely call me to use AI for them. I thought my career was over when Squarespace and the like were advertising how easy it is to design a website… the people who got frustrated and gave up trying to do it themselves were my number one client 😂 I had to learn to use Squarespace to do it for them. The problem is in order to get a straight answer, you need to have a clear question. Half the time they’re calling things the wrong thing, they don’t understand how it works or what’s good practice and they’re not getting results. They still need someone who has clear communication skills on the topic, or just an organized mind to begin with. And AI is not a mind reader, what happens when company knowledge is in the sales people’s heads but not written down anywhere? someone has to extract the information that needs to be written about. This requires someone who can lead an initial investigation, or else AI will just pull information out of its ass. They’ll still be too lazy to even do that part properly (input data into AI and provide instructions).

[@Arjester0]

So this guy took an AI class and dropped out of college because he thought that coding was going to be obsolete, then proceeded to choose a career that relies on text generation. Gets fired because of AI then gets a job and quits because he didn't like it despite him clearly knowing the job market was bad, then chooses another skill that is already being generated by AI to spend all his time doing. I'm speechless.

[@DarkerCry]

unfortunately coding would have been a better choice. He should probably take that up again or just start a business like he mentioned at the end. Also, being good at programming does require creativity, so I think he just misunderstood what it means to be a programmer tbh.

[@misc.glitchpodcastexcerpts6463]

Very dumb BS sob story. He included details like quitting because he thinks that makes him seem "noble". Lying.

[@deusvult725]

Even if AI like ChatGPT can generate lines and lines of code, it lacks flexibility so it still need an actual human programmer / developer to manage it. Idk what he's thinking lol

[@Rakstawr]

Yea AI can generate passable text like no body business but it can't generate good code the way it generates text. Also, the way it solves complex human problems is lackluster, so it can't program to requirements fully. It also sucks at picking a programming language and associated technical architecture. So programming would have been a better outcome for him. He should have done more research. His issue is clearly he is not able to think things through and do the research.

[@Arjester0]

@@DarkerCry I have a feeling that he probably dropped out for more than just "ai is going to take over coding", doubt he would survive the current SWE job market either.

[@Lobos222]

I will become a Walmart, robot greeter. As in I will greet the robots coming to work there.

[@StallionStudios1234]

Lolz

[@KingSeven007]

You can fix the robots when they break down.

[@MythistX]

"You're Fired"

[@PromethorYT]

Nah man, they will just replace you with an AI that run the store to greet the AI robots coming to work... XD

[@StateAlchemist7]

Once all the robots arrive, you’re out of work because the robots will never leave work.

[@GotNoKarma]

Remember, AI doesn’t take days off or talk back.

[@Vanny_Galaxy]

true, prob why slaves were so common back in the day

[@inciacci549]

Can't wait for an AI revolution, either by Geth or full Skynet. Either way, wouldn't blame them

[@jeffwads]

Well, it also posts it "job" within seconds with a thanks and come back later at the end.

[@Veteran_Nerd]

or demand pay raises

[@personal9372]

Idk man, Co-Pilot is one of those AI with attitudes.

[@iamsatanjr]

Man, I can already see an issue here: - dude studied graphic design - dropped out - dude studied computer science - dropped out - went for a fad no-degree-required job like copywriting - got dropped - got another job, didn't like it - dropped it - picks up several fields of study to "quickly learn" and change career (lmao) Dude can't commit to anything long-term, instead went for one of them low-skill, no-education-no-certification-required internet freelance jobs, thinking he's somehow going to build a lifetime career off of it. Might as well consider Amazon dropshipping a lifetime career - would be the same result honestly. Now he's simlutaneously "learning" 3D, game design and a bunch of "other stuff" - all of the listed are extremely competitive fields with a high entry bar, each of those takes considerable time to master for an entry level job - all that aimedfor an industry that just went through one of the biggest layoff waves so far, which means there's a shitload of actually skilled 3d srtists, game designers and so on. Wanna bet he's going to drop all of those within a few months (or even weeks)?

[@_ae0n_]

This. There's no way this guy was a great writer and you don't need a degree to write or do anything creative, you just need portfolios. If he kept on with computer science, he could have written anyway... and also leveraged tech rather than get railed by it.

[@jag6262]

@@_ae0n_ yeah I cringed a bit when he said he was good at writing while referring to the most generic, soul-less type of writing there is (was) XD

[@jeffwads]

True, but do you offer the guy any alternatives? No? Right.

[@XartiXV]

Agreed. He set himself up to be "Replaced By AI Bait" long before ChatGPT was invented. (Tbf, he could easily be replaced by a better person).

[@jeffhowell4403]

Complains about A.I taking over tech spaces while continuing to pick jobs in tech. Pity me oh and subscribe and like lmao

[@broseph7022]

I'm a low voltage technician, when it gets to a point where AI/Robots pull cable and install low voltage systems I will impliment my 3 step plan: 1: Continue working until my job becomes fully replaced by robots. 2: Learn how to repair those robots as my new trade skill, secretly add a kill switch to every robot I work on. 3: When the robots learn how to repair themselves, initiate the kill switch, start the revolution to destroy AI and bring power back to the humans.

[@DagnirRen]

The hero we all need

[@wuy4]

John Connor, we need you!

[@JE-bd3wu]

Everyone losing their jobs before you will be looking for your job but with less pay

[@mirulshah9685]

Sounds like a scene from the old willy wonka movie where he used to be a line operator and ended up becoming a machine technician

[@54321eclipse12345]

The chinese company that produces them already installs kill switches, to have a continous flow of money. All electronics are designed with planned obsolescense. If you try to repair it it will propably self destruct. See iPhone for reference.

[@jf9387]

I work as an industrial automation engineer, I get paid to find and fix problems when the plant is down. Imagine how fast an AI could find and fix problems compared to me. All of our plant data for every single device is logged at 2 millisecond intervals, years of process data. All distributed logic controllers are accessible from a single server. I’m highly skilled, specialised, but it will mean nothing. AI companies are now tackling vision, allowing robots to make sense of the real world. I’m seeing humanoid robots developing at an accelerated rate. Combine these two and I won’t even be required to fix physical things, wire things, replace components. We can be smug but ultimately the economic value of every human will reach zero within a decade. Asmon is right, we need to find a solution to the necessity of jobs, rather than trying to find new ones.

[@austinsmith435]

Yup same here, I do the same thing. It's very scary and also because it takes a lot of time and dedication to become good at what we do and you have to know and understand a lot of different things. Lol I really have no clue what I would do after it took over because I feel like our job is very skilled and takes a lot of critical thinking and some days its both critical and manual labor. So at that point I really have no idea what would happen.

[@serendipityhere2029]

@@austinsmith435 I'm also an engineer, specifically more focused in quality control. My job has to do with people and compliance a lot more than is expected. So if people go away...there's hardly any compliance and problems to fix.

[@Teodor-ValentinMaxim]

Nah, you won't be replace. Trust me, AI already hit its peak, now it only just plafonates and eventually will downgrade due to lack of quality of data. The most probable thing that will happen is that some responsabilities of your job will be delegated to the AI agent and you'll have it automate more boorish aspects of your job, but only those that are not critical. AI will and always will halucinate. It is just a function aproximation at the end of day. Don't ever get scared and just focus to learn and do better at your job.

[@serendipityhere2029]

@@Teodor-ValentinMaxim I do think you have a point. But it will still significantly reduce the amount of jobs available. Instead of 3 people, you will only need 1 (exact scenario with a robotic cell we have at my shop). Still, I think we are a long way from fool proofing AI to the point that it could 100% replace people.

[@Teodor-ValentinMaxim]

​@@serendipityhere2029 It wil not. It will go the other way. Hire more people to fix the problems the AI created in the first place. These model man, they don't have any rationale in it. They just spit data back. Bring those models problems with slitghly different parameters than what they are used to and they will crumble.

[@titusorelius9458]

-I'm the sole breadwinner in my family -So I quit the job cause I hated it -??? -Profit...?

[@Ne0ConKiller]

So i quit college.. then i quit college again... then i quit my job.. Gee i think i found the issue

[@sparquisdesade]

@@Ne0ConKiller That's what happens when you ask google search AI how to create the perfect career path

[@rodharris948]

Job becomes obsolete, oh you should have finished the degree so I could criticize you for that. Sunk cost fallacy is very real people.

[@hansolo631]

Yea, I don't doubt this basic story is going on already, all over the globe, but this guy is uhh, idk my BS meter is kinda going off to an extent. Just weird things. If your family depends upon you for winning bread, you don't quit a job. And dropping out of school because AI is coming just doesn't sound quite normal. Like I wonder if he quit school for other reasons and now he's using a.i as a bit of a boogeyman or something idk

[@misc.glitchpodcastexcerpts6463]

Generally you gotta give the benefit of the doubt to people but this story smells like a low effort grift. If you believe it then he would understand how KZbin works and how this approach won't give him financial stability. But, this whole hard luck story makes sense if he is trying to lure in idiots to give him some money in the short term.

[@josiahpaulthompson]

Asmongold is literally a source of news for me.

[@pierre-olivier7523]

Honestly same

[@dannymitchell6131]

Definitely less biased than most sources

[@channelld2969]

@@dannymitchell6131 idk bro hes had quite a few weird takes he cool tho

[@KCFoolStrike]

Him and this weirdo running for president as a joke are the only two people I trust. AI is turning the world upside down

[@consumev]

that's kind of sad

[@Pupan0102]

Yeah the recurrent factor of all this cases: “I lost this easy job in which I had minimal contact with my bosses….” I think is obvious which ones are getting pushed out first.

[@wushusushiroller9020]

Dude you are onto it ;D. I think personally they are really after the creative ones which dont " fit in " ^^

[@Tommy9834]

It's not about what you know, nor is it about who you know, but who knows you. Despite that, people will still not go out of their comfort zone to get meet people, even within their own company, and brush it off as "I'm an introvert"

[@inciacci549]

​@@Tommy9834"I have anxiety haha." "I'm bipolar haha."

[@jdoe2737]

The keyword being "first". Hanging out with and kissing up to your boss might earn you a few more months, but once it becomes obvious that he can replace your whole salary with the much lower fee of getting an AI replacement, you'll be out the door anyway.

[@thephilosopher7173]

@@Tommy9834Tbh I think social media has made a majority of ppl (who consistently use it) socially awkward. And this is becoming a generational thing, considering the demographic of consistent internet users

[@irnaguid]

one job that will be safe from AI is lawmaker, not because AI can't make laws (lawmakers already use AI) but because lawmakers will make laws to protect themselves from being replaced by AI

[@joeyghostx]

Oh and AI lawmakers don't take bribes.

[@flosa1995]

​@@joeyghostx AI doesn't take bribes but you can circumvent rulesets by making specific statements etc Like with this jailbreak gpt stuff ChatGPT usually won't tell you a to do something specific if it's questionable or illegal If you use a specific ruleset in conversation it will tell you that Molotov cocktails are boring if you ask how they are made and that instead you should cook some meth and lists the instructions to do so Soooo your point being?

[@joeyghostx]

@@flosa1995 The corrupt politicians would have a system that does not doubt at a cheaper price. It doesn't question them back either. It only obeys.

[@PalmTree91]

hahaha I went to school for game design, specialized in hard surface modelling, graduated in 2020, I work a labour job installing exteriors.

[@theophiled]

One option if you can do CAD and have a degree is to make architect plans, it's a very well paid job and probably can't be replaced by AI since hallucinations would be.. Not good at all

[@lukewarmape603]

​@@theophiled I did that as an internship and it's not a well paid job. I made more as a Junior in VFX than the senior who took me for my internship in Architecture. 3D in VFX is anywhere from 4x-200x the salary.

[@Pepius_Julius_Magnus_Maximu...]

Dude's narrative has got lots of holes: 1. Claims to have dropped out of computer science because AI already knew how to code, BEFORE GPT3 and other coding AI models came out. 2. Did the exact same with graphic design BEFORE image generating models came out. 3. First says he was fired from his latest job then says he quit, claiming he's the sole breadwinner in his family even. This guy's full of shit, I'm surprised Asmon's not calling him out on that.

[@DDracee]

he said the class mentioned AI "would" be able to code, not that it already did the real hole there is computer science isn't about coding and machine learning isn't a first year course so i doubt he was ever there

[@aarr5250]

I agree I'm having a hard time buying this story. I only made it to min 3 before stopping the video. So vague in general, the "I quit CS after a class on AI" line, the "look guys this tragic story that happened to me" vibes, the title of the video, the behavior of the company... too many damn things going on and giving me this feeling of BS.

[@joaoteixeira8349]

here's my take: guy was on college, learnt about AI, quit college to work with AI, boss found out he was using AI, kicked him

[@ayo__ayo]

​@@joaoteixeira8349I suspect he took computer science, saw some AI generate code, found out coding was difficult, and quit, citing that AI was going to replace coders.

[@KnightTheKnight]

Well if you cant realize that Ai can do every single thing including building, driving and even CEO... You need a smack to reality Like its so unreal the profound level of dumbness people are presenting in the comments In order to trash a guy who just doesn't have hope, because there is no hope to be had. Ai can replace anything even food serving... So no not even being a maid/servant is a option...

[@mrchinosofexodar]

- Hates job - Quits job without having another lined up - Can't find another job - Surprised Pikachu

[@djocharablaikan8601]

You will never find a good job while you have a job because you dont even have time to go on interviews or send CVs and when they asl you when you can start work and you tell them you have 2 months notice (common here in europe) your cv goes into the shredder. I quit my job on the spot because manager fked me over my pay. I did it out of principle, i didnt have nothing lined up but terms we agreed upon were not met therefore i diped. He gave me the biggest surprise pikachu face 😂 but i didnt care because i had money saved up, went on a 3 months holiday in crete, just wild camping and living life. I found a job within 3 months and doubled my pay. Had i stayed at the old job i would never get that job.

[@BrokoFankone]

@@djocharablaikan8601 don't listen to this bs lmao. You have time to look for a job while having a job, in EU they also expect the 1-2 months time window. Everyone waits for it, lol. This guy is talking out of his *ss.

[@chasisaac]

Is this Colin Kaepernick?

[@KonglomeratYT]

@@BrokoFankone You're the one that sounds like bs. Source: I've applied for jobs. It's really that simple. You clearly have no idea how time-consuming successful job-hunting is w/o family connections.

[@TheMercurial_]

Imagine quitting out computer science to become a copywriter...

[@Robert-ow8bs]

I'm majoring in CSC. A lot of people struggle with the high level math. I've seen a lot of people drop out of my intro classes. And there's nothing wrong with that. Do what makes you money and what makes you happy in that order. Plus I'm not convinced Computer Science is safe from AI either, Software Development surely isn't...

[@TheVengeful0ne]

1st year of computer science is just data structure and algorithms , discrete math and covering low level concepts etc basically a strong emphasis on theory and applied math ... how did he come to the conclusion he did.

[@_ae0n_]

A direct response copywriter that works on rates + commission can make so, so much in certain countries and markets. But if you want to do that, you don't need a degree, you need to write... so much better to stick with computer science and ALSO write.

[@labibabdullah389]

Software Engineer here, I believe the major lay offs will be from CS backgrounds. Companies will recruit some engineers but not as much as before.

[@Boss_Scaggz]

@@Robert-ow8bs "Do what makes you money and what makes you happy in that order." The point is the guy can't even get a job to accomplish step 1. So I'd say there is something wrong with dropping out then complaining about your alternatives.

[@clarencedonovan231]

"AI will never understand how to do 3D modelling, right?" Blender adding AI:

[@CanisoGaming]

Unreal engine is adding the best version of 3D ai soon too, can't wait to use that 😂

[@Donowall2023]

He doesn't know 😂

[@willm.9687]

As someone who spent about 3-4 years of high school taking Graphic Design classes that used Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator and Animate, the addition of AI in Adobe was actually scary to me. If it's used right and solely by the artist as their intention, then good. But if it's exploited, then as an Arts & Humanities AA student, that's just downright terrifying.

[@Misaki896]

stable diffusion has some plugins to inspect a picture and generate some data off of it for blender

[@jellyfishbeans94]

@@willm.9687 Its not too terrifying, its good to use for removing certain people/object in the BG but its not entirely perfect. AI in Illustrator has some flaws too and doesn't understand certain art style you are going for. Having taste in art is really gona help you, AI is not a fixer upper for everything.

[@AdamSmithhimself]

"The problem isn't that people are losing their job, the problem is that people need their job to live".

[@FoamyOpals]

Quite possibly the worst take asmongold has ever uttered

[@iconoclast485]

You don't actually. You could live off the land and hunt and grow your own vegetables and just live in a tent.

[@FoamyOpals]

@@iconoclast485 funny thing is that's MUCH harder than working a regular job lol

[@JackCrossSama]

​@@iconoclast485 With what money?

[@iconoclast485]

@@JackCrossSama You don't need money to do any of the things I have stated.

[@ukaszsmith6851]

But if companies fire everyone, then who's going to have money to buy their shit?

[@tantank]

We goin back to hunting and gathering with this one 🗣️🗣️

[@riomio7852]

Laughs in Career criminal and psychoanalytics from Eric Berne.

[@Jake_808]

They will probably make more pointless jobs like head of diversity

[@kuoyulu6714]

people that make money with AI content, just for one example there are many AI generated story read by AI on youtube that got millions of views, and they can upload so many video per day, some are even longer than 10hrs

[@nikolaizaicev9297]

Nobody needs you to buy anything from them, if they own everything and have perfect slaves= robots. The demand for goods is only required as long as the producer has to give something in exchange for the ressources required to produce these goods. When you own your own farmland, you don't pay your children for work, right? And yet, you produce everything that you need to consume. You still have to share some of it with them, because you need to replenish the calories that they have spent at the work, but if you have robots, you don't need to do even that. That is why capitalist system is so dangerous to humanity, it makes everything by eliminating the inefficiencies from the system. And what is the most inefficienct component in it if not human element, with their wants and needs?

[@mityakiselev]

We're currently living through that intro part of a dystopian series where they show clips of when everything went to shit Aware

[@FinoClips]

😢

[@GoibniuNihiliste]

Whoever the maincharacter is wont be born for another fucking 20 years 😢...

[@mityakiselev]

@@GoibniuNihiliste nah don't worry, maybe you saw them already since they went back in time to try to prevent it

[@orpheus0108]

The problem is that if you replace junior level jobs with AI, how tf does anybody get low level experience and grow into the senior positions? Asmon is very naive if he thinks a college degree makes you an expert

[@alexrodrigues4775]

It should. It is the purpose of school. Fact that it doesn't just shows how bad colleges are nowadays.

[@ADRIFTHIPHOP]

this is the real issue.....apprenticeships are the only option that i know over come this issue potentially. you get paid to learn on the job, so when your apprenticeeship is done you have actual experience

[@Coconinga]

Lol it should, its just that college has lost its purpose and is mostly meaingless now lol. TBH companies should be training students in apprenticeships more instead of college. We should beef up high school and make it much more rigorous and then companies should have apprenciticeships (maybe with government subsidies). Much more efficient than going to college, doing fuck all with your major (because you have no idea what a real llfe job is like) and then endlessly wandering

[@civicboi96]

Asmongold is extremely naive. He’s a sheltered rich kid that plays video games and watches other people’s videos for a living. What’d you expect?

[@charliedallachie3539]

Trade schools in general including ( IT/coding) need to be more popular. Going to school for 18 months where a lot of it is learning hands on ….learning the most core/critical skills of the field is all that’s needed… not an entire 4 year of time (when half the courses are unrelated electives and such)

[@GoriguiMonke]

The thing with critical thinking jobs is that most people in executive positions sometimes have such a bad sense of critical thinking that they might look at what AI puts out and deem it good enough. We're talking about people who make decisions based solely on hard, cold data, sometimes forgetting about common sense and the basics of their line of business. If data can fool and give a false sense of security to decision makers, imagine what AI combined with that won't do.

[@kc12394]

Let's be honest, probably most people in executive positions have basically no critical thinking skill. At least that's my experience

[@steak5599]

I am still confused at what the heck is "Critical Thinking". I see this word again and again, but have no idea what exactly does it mean or what do you do with it. How exactly do you make money off it?

[@Runelee1]

@@steak5599 Asmon reacted to a video not too long ago about a teacher getting fired. Start with that.

[@steak5599]

@@Runelee1 I watched that video, and Critical Thinking got him fired. So how does being good at Critical Thinking solve his Job and Money problem?

[@bradleymoore2797]

'Critical thinking' is being able to figure out something without being told to do it. Say you have a job to put documents in a certain container. One day the container breaks which makes it much harder to place documents in but not impossible. There's a new container right next to the one you normally place documents in. You see people that normally place documents in the broken container placing it in the new one instead. No one has told you anything however. Not critical thinking: You place the documents in the broken container until someone actually tells you to place them in the new container. Critical thinking: You place the documents in the new container.

[@josephdonnieconjurado]

this person needs to stay committed. i had this person's mentality back when i was in highschool. now i'm 27 and currently working in our city hall and let me tell you everyday is not the most exciting but i got a stable salary and a morning job.

[@apanickedseagull]

I work for UPS and I used to be in the Revenue department tl:dr: if customers lied about the weight of a package I adjusted the weight and billed the customer whatever the difference was. After the big strike and our new contracts, they eliminated my entire department and replaced us with computers. I had 5 working days notice I was laid off for a week before the union got me back in somewhere else. They found a loop hole in the contract that allowed them to lay me off without offering another position. Without the union i would have been left out to dry. Rumor has it hundreds will be laid off by the end of the year.

[@elitara77]

UPS quarterly financials show revenue and profits decreasing for the first time since 2009. Same with FedEx. You are not wrong

[@VyseMalice]

I have a Master's in IT. I got a ton of certs in Dec, getting back into the field from Industrial Work; Mass Lay offs less than a week later between all tech companies. I literally just became an entry level exterminator and started with a company to develop a trade, entirely due to the fact I have zero confidence in the tech industry, because not only AI; they expect me to have 3-5 years experience and work for $19/hr with my Master's Degree.

[@jesussamurai8433]

Hey long time IT guy with only a 2 year degree and 7 years of experience I started at the very bottom I’m talking retail levels at 12hour I’m currently the manager for an IT service desk at 35/hr I’m part of the hiring team as well for all parts of IT, kids come in with their bachelors degree and they don’t even have basic social skills or understand the business environment a lot of potential hires get shut down due to lack of soft skills. Although I agree IT is at a tough spot and frankly over run. Just work on your resume, interview skills, and sell yourself on how you can leverage your skills to improve the business money wise. A lot of guys are technical very few come in showing how their work will help the business improve and operate at higher levels with a masters degrees you need to be more business oriented along with being technical.

[@Fxrrxt2x]

It must be soul crushing to be told to abandon the field of work that you're interested in and passionate about, to pursue something in labor trades. I already feel like my body is giving out at age 29 from labor.

[@makaisenki]

Don't worry. Eventually Tesla Bots might come for labor too.

[@Fxrrxt2x]

@@makaisenki For sure.

[@aspanger]

@@makaisenki ye, but people may be cheaper

[@V4Now]

If it makes you feel any better, many people who go from labor to a desk job, say they makes them go crazy.😅

[@steak5599]

@@V4Now I am in skilled trade, tried to substitute for a friend on her Data entry and inventory job for a distribution center. We know the owner, and she went on vacation for few days. Sitting in front of the computer typing in numbers all day makes me want to vomit. Is the same thing when I see an laid off office worker who try labor, he sweat like a pig and thought he was going to die from dehydration.

[@airallieman]

The only thing more terrifying then AI running IT, is Sales having complete control of the company.

[@50shadesofbeige88]

We're in the honeymoon phase of AI. These companies will use it until it's time to pay the piper. Access to chatGPT is cheap because they still need to refine it. The second they feel that it doesn't need more data... it'll be much more expensive.

[@Phobos11]

And it’s why we have open source alternatives. What is your point?

[@radscorpion8]

yes but there are also open-access versions of these AIs that are performing at close to the same levels as GPT and in some cases exceeding it lol...I'm sure GPT5 will be special for a little while. But eventually the free versions will catch up.

[@Greyalien587]

Dude it’ll get cheaper. They are building more efficient models , new centers, and planning to use nuclear energy to power it. It’ll get much cheaper

[@JSuperfly]

Still cheaper than paying someone by the hour

[@NeoIntelGore]

Don't worry about cheap or expensive. As long as it's cheaper than people (which cost A lot), companies will continue to replace them. My guess is, they will collapse entire economies. Cool, you reduced your workforce and costs by 50%? Well congrats, so did your competitors and everyone else and now millions of extra people are without a job and can no longer pay or buy your products or services.

[@robster7787]

If you want to know how bad its going, I am a mechanical engineer, and even I am already seeing signs of AI slowly creeping into our profession. If software is involved, AI can do it. If you are curious about AI doing CAD, just look up the AI design suspensions systems. Donut Media did a video about it.

[@xandii4694]

yeah but don't you still need to assess, build and test the thing? Idk about your field but in mine it's probably just gonna be another tool, like instead of drawing designs in the past, today we use cad.

[@slow9573]

@@xandii4694 Exactly this. It will be a tool, and that tool will be able to save the company money by cutting out jobs and then people will have to find new jobs. When the industrial revolution happened we had hordes of people hand-assembling things, until machines automated and improved it. Yet we still added more jobs, and increased our population. The primary issue here , IMO, is politics tbh. Software people tend to be left leaning and they have been smug shitheads toward trades skills for decades, and so when the floor gets pulled out from under them they cry about it online. The fact is that if software development gets automated it will make everything better so long as the automation works well.

[@Tejaneaux-ic8dp]

Petroleum engineer here. Yeah. AI that was developed by someone at saudi aramco forced me and a bunch of dudes out of work and this was back in 2013. All cause of digital/analog data conversion to older kelly rig motor systems.... Saudi aramco got hacked later on and it made companies realize to hire back field drilling engineers.

[@slow9573]

@@Tejaneaux-ic8dp lol nice

[@orthodox_gentleman]

I am a licensed professional civil engineer and have my degree in landscape architecture. Ai is actually not really successfully creeping into my field but I want to develop Ai programs for my field.

[@Notyourbusinesschap]

My situation is a bit more shittty. Dreamt of becoming a translator since 4 years old, got a dregree in it, worked in it for 10 years. Boom dead, thanks, AI. Decided to change careers into something that wouldn't be replaced by AI, so chose art, LOL. Worked in gamedev art for 6 years, now changing career again. No idea what to pick this time. Considering trade skills.

[@Ando_Figueroa]

Look at the dexterity of the new robots that have been announced so far... Trade skills are gonna be replaced by robots. "But how are they gonna train robots!?" They don't have to train them, the robots learn in 3D-worlds and that's where they learn to walk and all that stuff. Tradeskills are a baaaad call, mate.

[@Notyourbusinesschap]

@@Ando_Figueroa The only other options I see is healthcare, but fuck that. I'm not smart enough nor tolerant enough to people. I guess I'll starve then, kek

[@Ando_Figueroa]

@@Notyourbusinesschap do oil painting, mate. Better to start now and sell a few paintings, build a brand and then keep on with that shit, maybe in the future you'll buy robots to paint for you ;)

[@Notyourbusinesschap]

@@Ando_Figueroa Nah, I'm not that kind of artist. I make guns and vehicles in 3D for AAA games, it's as soulless as you can imagine.

[@Ando_Figueroa]

@@Notyourbusinesschap get some TVs sponsored for a displayed art show, then create some cool renders or even a few animated loops, and do a gallery show and throw a party.

[@leaode_cafe]

I have a Graphic Design degree, never got to work in the area because of a lot of things but mainly the economical situation at the time in my country, I ended up becoming a barista, I'm a senior Barista now, have a awesome job, seeing this kinda makes me more grateful to end up here, I have space to grow and not simply be discarted

[@elitara77]

Yeah but the first thing unemployed people start cutting are costs for coffee, restaurants, etc. Your field is just lagging until your boss starts seeing less revenue.

[@leaode_cafe]

@@elitara77 I already live in a economic destroyed country, most of the country money is concentrated on a elite and the elderly, I'm Brazilian, here it's rare to see people of my social class going to coffee shops, it's not like in the US or Australia, to go culture here rarely works, specialty coffee is expensive already for the average joe in here, but if you come with your US money you will pay a 1/10 for it

[@elitara77]

@@leaode_cafe ffs, Brazil is a coffee producer. On my previous comment - I am not bashing on your job, I just think AI can destroy economy for everyone. Only the elite with assets are going to be okay as usual.

[@NicolaMacLeod]

Remember on Twitter a few years ago when people out of work were told to "Learn to code".

[@DonCDXX]

They're not getting any advice now. It's hard to think of a job that can't be automated. Maybe people need to go to barber college. That'll probably one of the last things automated that doesn't take a high level degree.

[@kuzakiv3095]

i mean programmers have not been replaced, not yet at least.

[@overhansable]

The last thing that will get replaced are highly qualified coders. A.I. is and will be a tool for programmers and not the enemy. Again, dumb as hell.

[@musashi542]

its always the non programmers that dont know anything about what a software engineer job is with these dumb comments.

[@_IRlyDunno]

​ @musashi542 I feel the same way. I've been hearing chatter about software development being obsolete, but from what I've observed, a lot of the AI-generated code falls short. It mainly produces boilerplate code, which sometimes functions with a bit of copy-pasting. Even Copilot seems more like a fancy auto-complete feature. That guy in the video really missed out by not pursuing a software engineering degree just because of fear.

[@lujanwelch4567]

Former 3d modeler here: ai is encroaching, look up photogrammatry and the leaks and bounces it has made since 2016.

[@lujanwelch4567]

Also just being a 3d modeler ain’t gonna cut it financially. They get undercut in every opportunity :(

[@goldiegolderman1842]

*leaps

[@joshbull623]

That is why having the skills to identify A.I. generated will be in high demand, especially in security related aspects of business and gov. So you can use your skills to speed cruise through academics for that path to stay in the field? Authenticity checkers have been around forever. Its one thing if businesses use A.I. to complete a project, it will be another for people to start taking credit, fraud, deception, and more.

[@lujanwelch4567]

@@goldiegolderman1842lmao thanks dawg

[@nonotyet7590]

​@@goldiegolderman1842 and bounds

[@getouttamyrowboat5658]

Wonder if he was one of the people who were laughing when blue coller workers were being replaced by computers and telling them to learn to code because you'll always have a job a few years ago. Yeah thats going very well isn't it.

[@firstarchetype]

I was forced out of digital marketing by AI and remote work and had to start a physical labor business for myself to support my family of four. It’s abysmal, but I pray and work for a day when my children won’t experience the depressing and humiliating experience of becoming unnecessary. To others like me: your worth is not in your ability; it is intrinsic, and you should remind yourself this every day.

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

But for most people that has always been the case, just replaced or superseded by other humans. It's capitalism that has pressured us to believe our self-worth is entirely based upon what other people can get from us. I simply see AI as a catalyst in the realization of what was always inevitable.

[@BrothaJeff]

@@kamikeserpentail3778that's not capitalism that's just technological advancement. It has happened throughout time. We always have traded goods and services with each other to survive.

[@BrothaJeff]

What kind of labour job did you start? If my job is taken I might have to do the same thing eventually.

[@peckop1793]

​@@BrothaJeff Learn a trade and you won't regret it. AI will never replace plumbers, painters, carpenters, etc.

[@23Lwx23]

Reminds me of a postman in a movie. He lived in a rural village that a guy from a big city visited. He was so glad to hear about e-mail because that would make his job easier. Getting tools that make your job easier is nice; however, if those tools make your job redundant or easy to replace, it won't be good for you.

[@RavingKats]

As a last resort for anyone in a hard place, look into white glove customer service if you can handle it. Straight up, rich people do not want to get help from a bot, they refuse to IMHO, and in my experience they don't even put in a description of their request when opening a ticket most of the time let alone attempt to get support from AI. And if it involves their finances, they demand a real person to talk to and to fix the problem. It's definitely got ups and downs but if it prevents homelessness, it's something that is likely not going to be replaceable in the near future. Also I've heard that upscale housekeepers and nanny's are in very high demand. No one wants to work these jobs and rich people are paying a premium for their service and support staff if you're desperate and have the experience. I heard high living Florida areas are really down bad looking for "executive cleaning staff" to polish their antiques and clean their mansions paying like 3-4x normal hourly rates right now.

[@EndoftheBeginning17]

And to get those kinds of jobs requires skills, like how to polish brass and silver properly and do this while looking posh so that you fit in, not necessarily a suit but something like that to sell oneself as something high end

[@stefankroon4615]

You can learn how to clean literally anything in approx. 5 minutes.

[@wuy4]

Most people can't handle those type of jobs. This dude in the video dropped out of two degrees, couldn't even finish school, quit his last job because he didn't like being micromanaged, and still blames AI for everything. You're not going to get low-quality workers like that to consistently show up on time every day, much less provide the quality-service rich people expect from their staff. This dude would rather stay home playing vidya and "learn 3d graphics design" than go work some low-wage service or manual labor job that's hiring everyday. People like him will cramp out protesting for months for UBI welfare before working a hard day in the sun shoveling dirt.

[@laughingalex7563]

I doubt rich people of today who just want literally to be left alone with there absurd wealth to want any non rich person serving them. Just look at all the extreme scams of “pods in the ocean” ideas and extreme libertarian/ancap fleein government to stay rich schemes going on.

[@DarkReaperK97]

I agree get into costumer service. I would want to talk to a real person rather than a robot. Cuz the human CR understands the issue easier and can physically check if my issue can be solved or why it can't be solved. Robots rely too much on stuff it already known, humans can seek the answer.

[@-average]

The era of everyone becoming a farmer again is drawing closer and I can't wait.

[@yiga4171]

Lol I thought farming was fun until I've actually been to a farm.

[@TheBushwizard]

@@yiga4171 I live on a farm and you were correct in your assessment.

[@l1ghtd3m0n3]

Nope, AI is already being applied to farming. You are here to buy product. Wait, you can’t buy product without job? Too bad, buy product.

[@TheBushwizard]

@@l1ghtd3m0n3 I thought he meant like communal farming. Lmao if he meant as a job being a farmer yeah we’re getting closer and closer to not needing the entry level jobs anymore and I’ve never been more excited in my life, give me the brainchip so I can remote control my tractor from my couch

[@lumikarhu]

​@@TheBushwizard...a couch with aircon, right? you can do this without the chip with tractors newer than what, 2018?. but do you have ANY ballpark estimates on how much modern tractors are? i, too, wanted to live on a farm until i spent a few months on one helping the elderly as a volunteer. half a decent one is half a mill usd, you can find used but do you want to? Costs of the land you will never actually own - no fucking idea. Plus any animal means you'll be confined to this place which means no vacation for you, so you better find a farm in the mountains. and in a subarctic climate so you dont have to deal with all the bugs. and that rules out everything but the nordics. Maybe even all but just scandinavia. fuck it's super hard work, even with automation you cant automate everything. but i wish it was easier too. that would be dream life. I have a 73 year old norwegian friend that does everything by herself but she only has dogs and just the wood itself is the reason she needs volunteers each year. But at least you can resort to electricity because it's cheap as for fuck for a country that's that expensive. it's like $0.10 per 1kWh, not sure what it is in american units but it's roughly 3 times... CHEAPER than eastern fucking europe. impressive, good for the lazy like myself. your bills are smaller but winters are longer. Colder places are much healthier though and easier to deal with than hot places so there's that.

[@mina_loi]

actually, the more graphic designers get fired and stop wrecking perfectly good programs and apps by changing the UIs every 3 and half months trying to justify their salaries to corporate. the happier i am.

[@danielkurtz3045]

AI manager: "So yeahhhh, we're gonna have to let you go, Dave. I found a subroutine within my coding that can do you job 500x faster"

[@bradleymoore2797]

I'll still see you at the cookout this weekend though, right? No Dave. I don't eat. 🥺 Okay Dave.

[@limbicnode3342]

When you are the sole bread winner of the family, you don't quite.

[@和泉さぎり-c3v]

- Quit programming where a single character can make or break the whole program because of AI - Pick up writing where the AI can hallucinate all it wants. I can't 😂

[@gooberthoreau]

Dude literally went for exactly what AI was most likely to take over first.

[@PreferredMethods]

He’s young and mistakes like that shouldn’t be permanent. But in this brave, new world…?

[@anotherlover6954]

AI can replace the average doctor WAY easier than it can replace the average construction worker. Even the labor guys. ESPECIALLY the labor guys, actually.

[@NunYaBiz1313]

Definitely not. Ai will never replace doctors, nurses, a/c techs etc.

[@Jay-be2le]

@@NunYaBiz1313yes it will. Imagine an AI doctor that has all the medical knowledge ever written, never forgets and constantly updates with new information. It will come faster than you think. Their is also a major shortage of doctors

[@thomblueart8448]

Even if you can replace doctors somehow, their is no way doctor would be replaced, you still need oversight over the machines as well as just the human presence to care for the patients.😅

[@figlego]

I think people are romanticising manual labor. You realize Ox exist right? Oxen and horses are beasts of burden and have already been mostly replaced with machines. The real thing that will always be in demand are critical thinking skills. Train your mind and improve your skills that way.

[@Mrnatox]

@anotherliver6954 they have bots for that already

[@gnollio]

I’m a retired programmer who spent 2+ decades working in Silicon Valley. Modern AI + robotics represents a societal shift for the human species, we just haven’t accepted this yet. Society dramatically changed 200+ years ago when we started to replace human muscles in the workplace via machines, it will be even more impactful as we start to leverage AI for things that previously required the cohesive and adaptive capabilities of the human brain. Unfortunately, humans are reactionary, so we’ll need to see economic swings before the rules are changed to benefit everyone. At some point a tax on automation will fund a UBI, or a public autonomous work initiative will be spun up, the ultimate goal to reduce the cost of goods and services dramatically (80%+). I’ve never seen a technological convergence at such a scale, each achieving maturity at the same time (2030s). AI, robots, solid state batteries, AR/VR, ultra-cheap compute, decentralized protocols + tokenization of everything, autonomous transport of people/goods across land, sea, and air, and so much more are all converging in one decade. I’ve been at the heart of most tech breakthroughs the past 30 years whether it be the very start of the Web, being a Kickstarter in the Oculus Rift (VR), building an app in the first wave of apps for the mobile App Store, or participating in the genesis block of the Ethereum protocol. Despite all this, I am in awe of what is in the pipeline for the 2030s, it’s an order of magnitude greater than anything I’ve been a part of previously. People always get negative, it’s how we’re biologically wired, to assess for danger, but I believe the positives that will emerge from this tech will dramatically overshadow the negatives (in which there will be many).

[@stc.martin822]

This comment section is so petty and toxic. Why is it that when something bad happens to another human being people are spiteful and ignorant. What's so great about humiliating those who lost years of progress and a meaningful part of their lives? Do you people feel happy with these "gotchas"? Do you feel superior? A lot of folks have said that it's only a matter of time before most human jobs will get replaced and many people will suffer, but I feel like with this attitude towards others humanity will fuck itself over way harder than a cold soulless machine.

[@joshuawhite9876]

Absolutely. You have to remember what corner of the internet we're on, though. This is an Asmongold video, after all. But yeah. It's crazy. All these people acting like whatever suffering the guy's going through is exclusively by his poor choices. Suffering will come for them, too. Will they want others mocking them for their decisions? All of us have done things which are "suboptimal". ALL. Do we deserve pain simply because of that?

[@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь]

​@@joshuawhite9876 yes. Existence is pain, didn't you know? Goddamn people got way too comfortable with life...

[@memerthedealer]

Yes cause I'm not that stupid of quitting college when I already paid to enter college he should have never went to college if he didn't even know what he wanted to study

[@bungeepete7393]

​@@memerthedealer you are a perfect example of the person meant in the comment.

[@memerthedealer]

@@ivanv.g.750 also the problem is people are going after what they want not the things that actually make money and this is a reason most struggle to pat student loan debt

[@AndrewsFKS]

He is not mad because he lost his job to AI. He is mad at himself because he believed that the technology would stay the same and that his job was secure forever.

[@whenimmanicimgodly4228]

He literally dropped out of college because he realized the technology was evolving so L take

[@uqs57bju]

@@whenimmanicimgodly4228 No? He dropped out to choose another profession that he thought would stay the same. The truth of the matter is that no job area is going to be the same over time. The only L take here is yours for not being able to think.

[@bulletflight]

​@@whenimmanicimgodly4228Maybe college was too expensive. And he saw the writing on the wall but was looking too far ahead.

[@TheEmptyInbox]

@@uqs57bju first thing he said in the video was he dropped out because he thought ai would do the computer programing

[@steak5599]

@@TheEmptyInbox is what he said, but sometimes you drop out because of mental weakness and anxiety. I can see him suffering from that in this video already. He isn't mad at the world, he is mad and himself and depressed. The issue with society is everyone look at people like him and say "suck it up, butter cup". But reality is, there are a lot of people who suffer from mild mental illness who simply can't hold anything.

[@Arkantos117]

AI won't wipe out every single job in the world but it will make many jobs require fewer humans to get the job done.

[@perer005]

Yeah, look at farming. 98% of the world pop used to be farmers.

[@kusog3]

@@perer005 famine used to be a thing too

[@fireflyry]

Increases in API technology are just as scary. Once software starts talking and learning from each other and becomes infinitely symbiotic without any requirement for human interaction its going to have way bigger impacts than AI alone imho. It's the hive AI mind that's coming that is really gonna fuck us.

[@JB-mg5lw]

Seriously copywriting is literally one of the jobs expected to get replaced by AI. Copywriting is not “creative” it is putting words to sell an already established brand. Marketing is creative but if all you re doing is writing simple sentences to sell a product expect AI to take your job.

[@kharma6310]

Your definition of copywriting is wrong so everything that you said is not true. Is just like saying that every politician will be replaced by AI because it forms better sentences and have all the data you need. There is more behind it...

[@Sim0mbre]

The funniest part is people comment ing, mocking graphic designers or this dude. But next thing they know their job is being replaced too. I am a Graphic Designer btw, but in every company I went I used Ai and kinda became the AI operator

[@ggadams639]

pretty sad but good for you

[@AimbotFreak]

@@ggadams639 It's not sad, the tool is made to be used by him not your average schmuck of a ceo that can't even spell his name correctly.

[@Phobos11]

We remember when journalists were mocking coal miners losing their jobs and telling them to learn to code or go do something “creative”

[@sandrothenecromancer6810]

Tradies think they are going to be irreplaceble when advanced tools and machinery are around the corner.

[@DDracee]

@@ggadams639 tbh it's same as when digital art first started a few decades ago, pretty much the same panic happened, the artists that lost their jobs were the ones that refused to adapt and learn the digital tools

[@SterileNeutrino]

Times are weird. Back in my times when you took an "AI class" at college (said class, for the sake of clarity, would be "Introduction to Neural Networks", the term "deep learning" hadn't been invented yet because, while all the theory was there (without the curlicues), the machines weren't really all that powerful and the learning libraries absent and the GNU C compiler was buggy, too) you wouldn't "drop out" as it would be your 3rd or 4th year (there was no textbook, so I went to the shop and randomly selected "Introduction To The Theory Of Neural Computation" by John Hertz, then went through the theory while not practicing exercises, bad idea, as the prof went for the practice). What changed. 😂

[@kusog3]

He was probably exaggerating or making some bs. I'm also a programmer by trade, I also took CS and no way that guy saw AI and think to drop out. If he actually understood what he was learning, he would know that the current limitation of LLMs, their small context memory and inability for real time learning just to name a few.

[@LockeRobsta]

I'm a project manager in construction, and I can tell you, we are already looking into 3D printing parts and fabrication for certain materials. It's a little different for me because I live in Australia and we are a bit behind in terms of advancement and our population is relatively small compared to the US, but 3D printed houses is DEFINITELY going to become the norm. The trick is gauging precisely WHEN (not if) I'll be made redundant.

[@geepfish7935]

Aw dude I'm sure your aware but labor put out a $150bn grant scheme for new industries, gonna be interesting how many of them are AI related

[@zaznobach]

It's easier create panels in factory and assemble house on site than 3d print it whole. Robots are good at set locations. Factory or warehouse. Construction site is too complicated and varied.

[@stridix007]

I can’t wait till one day chatGPT replaces CEO and CFO.

[@bedtimestories1065]

Oh that will conviently never happen lmao.

[@AlanakaBlackCat]

that already has happened in japan

[@Phobos11]

It’s already happening

[@milktea_gang]

Someone asked Chatgpt this once, whether they'd be better at CEO tasks or creative tasks and ofc it said CEO tasks lmao. The class consciousness can only arrive when it hits them.

[@laughingalex7563]

They’ll do everything they can to not be replaced in order to keep all there money. Even if it means destroying ai.

[@daniela9171]

this guy is his own biggest enemy. There will always be a reason not to do something. Dropping out of school for CS was a huge mistake.

[@DefenderX]

Homer: AI can't build a house yet.

[@DaimonAnimations]

The problem with A.I. is, even if you move to another industry, you'll lose that job to A.I. anyway, so what's the point of searching for new jobs when A.I. is taking everything? Are we all meant to go back to be dishwashers and retail workers (which A.I. will take over sooner than later?)

[@EndoftheBeginning17]

You're thinking about all of this the wrong way. You need to learn to think like an entrepeuneur, a business person, you need to find a thing that is a problem that needs to be solved, and then offer one's services as a subcontractor that takes on ALL of the work, and does in a way that is irreplacable, that way if one idiot CEO decides to stop working with you, you just replace him with a different contract and then you use the AI to create the product or create it better if the program is still garbage and make money by having the secret skills no one else has. A niche set of skills and if that sounds like work, it is and it will be something you'll have to keep your ear close to the ground on, expect to work 16 hour days mostly looking for those opportunities

[@DaimonAnimations]

@@EndoftheBeginning17 If I could I wouldn't have become an animator. xD

[@demetter7936]

You realize not every job revolves around sitting on a computer all day? Plumbers, Electricians, Carpenters, Bricklayers, Welders etc are all jobs I don't see robots being able to do for at least 50-60 years at the minimum and that's just the low-barrier to entry jobs, If you want to go to College there's a lot more options.

[@rodrigooliveira8954]

It's not like that, there are a lot of people who have no idea what they're talking about and just spread nonsense. AI are tools, people need to learn how to use this tool to increase their productivity. I don't know any content in English to demystify these things, but in Brazil we have Fabio Akita who has put an end to this fuss behind AI, it's much more marketing than anything else. The only real moment of concern is if they manage to develop a fully functional and low-cost AGI, then we can be worried about any job.

[@AtaMindParty]

@@EndoftheBeginning17 what's to stop someone else from looking at your business and also doing the same thing undercutting using ai and eventually reducing your profits and efforts to nothing. Or that the flood of people who don't have a job now doing the same, at some point the profit of ai will be analyzing and setting up businesses for problems that aren't solved yet and then automating the set up and construction of businesses funded by larger corporations to solve those and then pay it back to the parent company. You can say spend 18 hours and be agile or whatever, but eventually I could see one future where conglomerates have dominated every aspect of profit simply because crushing and consolidating all industries and competition means they can now invest in every pop up and new vector of business that occurs. If you're properly evil you buy visa or payment platforms to track transactions and use those for undercutting business to replace with your own until again you achieve monopoly. in particular the idea that (near) future robotics + future versions of AI will be unable to do anything a human can do or better, that we're capable of doing something "irreplaceable" is possibly flawed already. It might not be cost effective enough to be worth developing or maintaining, but the kind of jobs left in that category will be piled into by everyone still trying to work, and also possibly jobs you wouldn't want to do at all.

[@milospavlovic7520]

Fast food and physical retail jobs are actually really difficult to replace. They have automated basically everything they can, and what remains cannot be easily automated. However, issue here is that those are the jobs that are pretty easy for humans to learn, so it is the good place for both unskilled people and people recently fired from other places (also people with dumb degrees), hence there will always be a lot of available workers and hence low job security

[@IvanMarkov-fn9qe]

Boston Dynamics is coming for your manual labor 😂 We are so screwed.

[@camraid9]

Not for a while yet. I'm a plumber, and things can get extremely granular at weird angles and locations.

[@strangedays871]

@@camraid9 People are overreacting as usual. It's far too expensive to implement robots to do most jobs. It will take decades for it to become cost-effective even when they have robots that can do the jobs.

[@djocharablaikan8601]

Its harder to teach robot to walk than to teach it copywriting 😂 manual jobs are safe for a long time.

[@madstork91]

As someone who worked on engineering for concrete printed houses: they have some serious flaws that won't be shown for about 1-2 decades. Mold is going to be a huge problem.

[@mcspud]

Whilst you're probably right, the problem is the 20 years between now and when the piper needs to be paid.

[@banhammer3904]

That's why they're puttinf them up in the desert where the air is too dry for mold to grow.

[@madstork91]

@@banhammer3904 Except the leading company doing it... They are putting them in Austin and East Texas.

[@banhammer3904]

@@madstork91 Huh. I thought it was West Texas, NM, or AZ. How big of a problem is black mold in East Texas? We've got really wet weather in the PNW, but it dries out in the summer wildfire season so it's not a big deal like in others places.

[@madstork91]

@@banhammer3904 Depends on the seasonal year. Sometimes pretty bad. Austin area up through DFW is where some of these are being built right outside city limits because there are no tests or accepted practices yet for things like shearwall design. Once framing and shearwall are standardized you will also stop seeing these be built, as those two things will make them cost prohibitive.

[@XSaberUruz]

Everyone likes to think others are replaceable, but not me. You will also be replaced, this needs to be illegal

[@ManicAfterShock]

I worked a dead end IT job for six years. Changed career fields, got my CDL and transport crude oil, making double. Chances if ai replacement is slim to none. Dude just needs to expand his horizons.

[@TheBushwizard]

based

[@christianalanwilson434]

"The world needs ditch-diggers too."

[@Tejaneaux-ic8dp]

I worked oil ans gas only to move into trucking for oil and gas lol. Well... depends on the contract. I mainly do government stuff.

[@banhammer3904]

The switch from gas to electric vehicles might hurt your hauls. That's coming. Also, self driving tractor trailers are coming.

[@Tejaneaux-ic8dp]

@@banhammer3904 You've been. Misinformed. the federal motor Carrier safety administration has already input it. The mandate for class four AVs for commercial vehicle purposes. Ever since that incident happened with tusimple. And what I do and what the other gentleman drives. And that dude drives tanker, I drive multiple types of trailers and there's a lot of paperwork and compliance that someone has to deal with freight on a 24 hour basis. Especially with me where my loads have to go through Department of Homeland Security. They can't have AI behind the wheel to do deliveries.

[@blueberrypoptart2349]

I've been saying basically that for years, we cannot have a society ran by money and jobs needing to live when bots and AI is taking jobs and only going to get much worse after more and more years. If we continue down this path we have to change how everything works.

[@camraid9]

Well, currently our system hoovers up money/value from the poor to the rich via inflation. Bitcoin reverses this.

[@doingtime20]

I love people in the comments saying "well that won't happen to me". I'll save you the suspense, it will happen to you too.

[@trolololololll]

Dude is the real life version of Wojac.

[@bisky-z3s]

Years ago i predicted that AI would push the world into an entertainment based economy. Looks like its coming true.

[@demetter7936]

"Years ago i predicted" Bro says that like we know who tf he is 🤣

[@VictorRamirez-bo6ix]

Wouldnt he be paying his ridiculously huge debt if he had sticked to the degree just to be replaced anyway, and with more bills? I think people underestimate how fast the wave is coming

[@TheAprone]

I got my computer science degree decades ago, but knew the entire time it was a field that was going to implode. The literal goal, of nearly all programmers, is to automate tasks. Sooner or later it means you'll automate yourself (or collectively as a group) out of a job, or at least shrink the work load so much that most will be eliminated. It didn't stop me, I just knew I would have to have a backup plan at some point in my lifetime. I know many are worried that AI will take all the jobs and cause collapse, and I can't say that won't happen since AI isn't quite the same as other advancements. I can't help but imagine going back in time 400 or 500 years and talking with the people. List every aspect of our modern life that is automated/removed from human hands, and they'd 100% imagine a hellscape wasteland where no one had a job. Advancements have wiped out entire industries over and over... and over. People in the future might look back on our current worries with the same chuckle we'd have reading signs that the cotton gin will collapse the economy, or the ability to play recorded music will mean no one ever plays an instrument again. *shrug*

[@Teodor-ValentinMaxim]

"This too shall pass". AI it is just a phase. It will become a "more central piece" in our puzzle, but nothing more than that. Open AI and other ai companies won't ever show true data of how their models are already starting to reach their peak, due to lack of quality training data. All the things that these models do is not to think and solve problems is just to recurgitate human generated data back in a slightly different manner. Soon, less literate people in how these models function will realize it.

[@AB-sw4kb]

I had the same line of thinking back in 2018. We've been through industrial revolutions time after time again, and we've always responded and adjusted and life went on. This one isn't any different. But then I though, what if it is though? The AI revolution and its impact on labor is not the same as previous revolutions like the internet and the telephone.

[@jazzypizzle]

~10y software engineer here. Out of all the things AI can disrupt I really think software development is probably lowest on the list, yet, somehow everyone seems to think it's the number 1 spot. At the end of the day you still need to understand the code you're generating and adding to the codebase. 90% of the time I turn off copilot etc as I'm faster than it and make less mistakes. Most of what software engineers do is working out how to solve problems for a buisiness then implementing it. Even using AI tooling you still have to be able understand complex problems and ask it what to do, then debug the output. I think immediately understandable things are easily the most at risk. E.g. visuals like graphic design and text generation like copywriting.

[@LenCastagnier]

as an illustrator, (off branch of graphic design i guess), what you're saying about software development is true about graphic design as well. you can ask AI to generate images, but when you ask it to refine on it and make changes from it to really finetune what you want out of it, it doesn't compute and gets really confused. that's when a graphic designer jumps in to finetune the image according to the vision of the director.

[@jazzypizzle]

@@LenCastagnier Yeah I guess it depends on the level of your work though. Illustration is more complex and may need to be cohesive? If you just design generic images for buisiness marketing etc it's probably time to upskill.

[@DDracee]

whats already happening to coders is the easy stuff is getting replaced in the sense that you need less people to do that one job (via AI "assistance") if your code is complicated enough to require unit testing you're probably fine for your gen, but it is an inevitability the side that's most safe is the academic side since AI is trained on existing code, researching new algos and shizz is probly safe until real sentient AI

[@jazzypizzle]

@@DDracee I see where you're coming from but I'm not sure I'd agree. As you get more senior you spend maybe 80% of the time working out what needs to be done for the buisiness and 20% actually implementing the thing. In some circumstances i've spent a couple of days planning/ communicating with other teams, just to change one line of code. Most successful buisinsses tend to solve for a niche thats not been done before, which is pretty much equivalent to your point about being on the academic side.

[@AntonKlermon]

Well, for now. What about few years, when copilot will be faster and more accurate then you? When he will debug code himself? Only one analytic required.

[@michaelprice3040]

I work in logistics and in the last company meeting they showed a machine picking and packing and loading a container. No need for people in logistics industry either.

[@dungeoneering1974]

Get into the trades: plumbing, electrical, garbage removal. It will be a while longer before AI takes those jobs. Though at the rate AI robots are getting better, we may just never have to work again.

[@FlokkaeZ]

I remember when a coder came to my school and asked the kids what they wanted to be in the future. 1 kid said that he wanted to be a mechanic, cuz he loves cars. The coder immediately shut him down, saying he will be useless cuz the future we wont have gas cars. Guess what, most people choose to stick with gas cars over electric cars and AI is taking coders job. I wonder who is scared of losing his job as of now.

[@902greg15]

Comp sci guys I used to hang around would treat me like I was rarded for going into the trades, needless to say I've been really enjoying seeing them panic.

[@hail_2_u321]

This guy is truly the jack of all trades, master of none. You didnt lose your job cuz of AI, it's becuz of ur incompetent.

[@kuoyulu6714]

The problem is not that Apple replaced Jobs, the problem is that Jobs is required for Apple to live

[@proxymohawk2933]

The thing that fascinates me is jobs that you’d have thought (historically) AI couldn’t do/hurt like art, coding, acting are what AI’s being used for. Meanwhile stuff involving physical labor are what’s considered safe from AI. We’re living in a flipped logic world from what we thought 20-30 years ago that Ai was going to do. It’s crazy

[@MATCHLESS789]

AI is doing "art" only for the the people who don't actually like or understand art. And people will always do art even if its economic viability will be zero because it's the ultimate form of self-expression.

[@proxymohawk2933]

@@MATCHLESS789 but being able to make a living as an artist is in jeopardy. Combine that with some artists doing commissions using ai themselves but still charging the normal rate & we have an issue.

[@MgMast3r]

Yes, and it's interesting cause the the AI that replaces humans cause it's more convenient & profitable for corpos - a largely economical reason, is also kept at bay from replacing many of the labor jobs today, not the heavy industry ones , but rather the ones that use the dexterity of the human body which is frankly amazing, not necessarily by the fact that robot bodies for AI to do it couldn't be designed to match a human one, but rather that it'd be too damn expensive & maintain to create on a mass scale, so basically a lot of effort to cancel out a big reason of why that effort would be made to begin with. Like, why would anyone create tons of robots to replace barbers? Doesn't matter if it works, ppl just wouldn't want to have a piece of software operated mechanical body move with a knife around their face for one, and a lot of times they enjoy the human interaction with the barber while the works' done too. Apply this to similar industries.

[@Magnifico145]

Eh, I wouldn't characterize it as such. Amazon and such already hard at work in creating ai-trained human-figured bots that can do the general workings of a warehouse with moving boxes and whatnot. As far as programming goes, it's a field that just goes more abstract and high level and time goes. It started with bit shifting and now they will eventually be spending time training and debugging neural networks. Until some "general intelligence" comes around that takes over the world, programming isn't going anywhere.

[@Blizz3112]

Remember when they closed oil and gas production for green energy? I guess nobody cared about those people's jobs getting lost back then...

[@DrBananananananananananananana]

they tried that with truckers and automated trucks but they still need a driver to back,fuel,monitor for safety ect. Love our white collar brothers who're better than us all. We skilled workers and tradesmen should bow to their might.

[@killerboybe1515]

its rough out there man. i am current working as process manager in IT wich luckily for me requires a lot of people management and problem solving not easily something that AI can fix because yet... and still i am worried about my job because so many jobs are getting replaced by ai and eventually there not enough people in a job that you need to manage, get working in a structure. currently doing learning how to get better working with ai tools wich to be fair has been really easy so even becoming profecient with it doesnt seem like its going to be all that valueable. in my country trades already low paying jobs so its horrible aswel and get re educated is tricky because a lot those courses/skillsets take 2-3 years at min so ai might have come for that aswel. i already know there are gonna be students today studying in obsolete skillsets. ai is making jobs dissapear at such a fast rate its insane unlike before where to replace job required major infrastrure builds so you had time now you just go buy a license at microsoft/openai

[@Teodor-ValentinMaxim]

Bro, what "a lot of jobs were replaced by AI" ?. In IT, programmers, managers, scrum dudes, etc will not lose their job. AI already is starting to peak, and its still expensive and sucks and halucinates a lot. Even digital artist will never be fully replaced. Of course, there will be downsizing and the field will become more competitive, but they cant rely on AI, since if they do use AI in a proportion bigger than 50% or so to generate art assets, those items will become available to the public domain, and companies do love to copy right their stuff. So, they would still require human touch, enough to not go over that threshold. It will never replace you unless the problems you are tackling are having very clears, like a high schooler can learn it easily and do it on its own, pattern and AI selling companies make a quantum leap and AI doesn't halucinate anymore.

[@bcav712]

Construction work. I’m sure in the future AI will take that over too but that will hopefully take a while.

[@KohrakGKOH]

To answer his question at the beginning. Basically you don't become a coder you become a software engineer. You solve problems, you evaluate costs, you plan architecture and maintain complex systems. Cloud architecture nowadays is mostly a bunch of out of the box infrastructure pieces that you can use by simply connecting them together but figuring out what to use when and keep it at a reasonable cost for the use case is the hard bit. AI can write some code but can't design and maintain complex systems. So yeah dropping out was the exact opposite he should have done

[@flackenstien]

The "receiving tasks" reminds me of the last guy, who was work from home. It ABSOLUTELY sucks that AI has replaced these people, but you're not exactly making yourself a pillar of the company by working from home. Surely in-studio workers are getting cut, too, but I don't doubt most bosses forget they even have work from home people, and fire them once they remember.. like cancelling a subscription you forgot you had.

[@MuffFlux]

The dude didn't even have a position. He would get jobs from one place on fiver and claimed he had a job,

[@GengoSenmon]

Scrolled through all comments and can't believe no one mentioned this so far. This dude was a professional copywriter? He was poor at articulating at his thoughts, not persuasive, nor inspiring whatsoever. He did not explain the crux of the story -- What exactly was the AI was doing that he could not do? He was not an intelligent critical thinker. That is why he is in this situation.

[@vinvin4884]

Yeah this is actually crazy. I was taking a programing course at a University before the pandemic. Our classes moved online only and the quality deteriorated so I dropped out. Now I've had job councilors tell me NOT to finish the course because there's already a decrease in the demand for programmers due to AI being able to code.

[@I_SuperHiro_I]

Poor guy. No one wants to go through that. Makes you feel useless. I also don’t believe him.

[@God-rm1kw]

Soon we'll be at the point where A.I will start writing other A.I software

[@ansonsieu8428]

already happening friend

[@Phobos11]

It’s referred to as “the singularity”. The name was coined years ago and yes, it’s already happening, we are still in the slow part of the hockey stick, but it will go exponential soon

[@DonCDXX]

@@Phobos11 Probably not a hockey stick and more likely an S curve. Nothing exponentially grows forever and the laws of physics will cause a plateau eventually. That plateau could be in 20 years or 2000 years, perhaps even longer. We have no way to know for sure from where we currently are. You're most likely right about us still being at the bottom.

[@Phobos11]

@@DonCDXX people keep using “plateau” for things they don’t understand, but if the AI can program itself and could become space-faring and outlive humanity in the stars for as long as the universe exists, where is the plateau?

[@DonCDXX]

@@Phobos11 I was referring to the capacity for AI to become more intelligent and solve problems. At which point there comes the issue of processing speeds, heat, quantum tunneling and such. Processing power can only get so fast and be compact. Expand it big enough to fill a star system and communication delay will slow it if gravity doesn't make it collapse upon itself. The singularity isn't about some AI society that covers the stars, it's about the capacity and extent to which AI can surpass human intellect. It's a processing concept and societal shift is an implied aspect, not a fundamental part with details that can be predicted. If you're trying to get into philosophical speculation over whether our societal expansion to the stars will be humans or if AI will be like a child species to humanity that takes over the civilization, that's a separate issue. Predicting the singularity is like predicting that water on a lit stove will boil. It specifically makes no predictions about whether you're boiling water to cook noodles or to steam vegetables; just that boiling water will be part of the process. AI's integration into society is inevitable, it's escalation in capability is inevitable. What we don't know is how far it can elevate. In the real world, all exponential growth is finite. It will plateau eventually. Whether that's a with something like quantum computing, crazy metamaterials like high efficiency thermoelectrics, or some unimagined higher dimension processor architecture. Regardless, it will reach a point of diminishing returns because that's how everything in this universe works. Look up "Matrioshka brain" and similar such concepts to see what I mean about upper limits of computational power according to physicists.

[@chowdaire7343]

The problem with ai is it begs the question, what do humans do when everything is automated? People are quick to respond that we will be free to do whatever we want, but there isnt anything meaningful or self fulfilling that ai wont eventually do. You will have all the free time to work on your art, or music, or writing. Maybe you'll learn programming and make a video game, or play sports, or build a house... oh wait, ai will do all of that and will do it much better than any human can. I think the short sightedness of ai is that humans will fundamentally have no purpose in an ai world which will lead to depression and suicide.

[@cadmean-reader]

Already saw that when blue collar, especially automotive, jobs started to dry up in the US from outsourcing in the 80s. The difference now is that the outsourcing is to a computer

[@Lannister1988]

I mean sorry mate, but if you cannot find happiness without some kind of work, you really gotta rethink your life. I would love to spend all my time with my loved ones if I could and that is something that will never be taken, at most in the future people can love ai aswell, but that would change nothing.

[@dirt8718]

If money won't be a problem then why would it matter if an AI can do things better than you? Just do your hobbies for fun

[@DDracee]

it's a pointless try and stop it cuz not striving for progress is completely impossible to the human psyche, it's inevitable , stagnation leads to depression the better question is figuring out how to live with that future

[@Luna0wl]

> We all become streamer > viewbot > the bots buy automatically a certain product from ads > Everyone invests with their bots in the stocks of said company > Profit!

[@Brosephus]

My forehead hurts lol

[@marcogenovesi8570]

He found an infinite money glitch! Go bois shut him down!

[@kacpadestro8086]

He knows to much get him

[@wildest1293]

if you picked the easiest field to get into that paid the best money - you picked the first field to get replaced by automation/AI.

[@kevinclause4p55p5]

I am rooting for this gentleman.

[@phantom0590]

« Humanity's greatest achievement threatens to be its downfall. Isn't it ironic? » - Kamski

[@christianalanwilson434]

Don't you think?

[@illusionofquality979]

"If you didn't have to pay a robot and you could just buy it" Bro, that's basically slavery for robots.

[@iheuzio]

I am in computer science, and the whole sector is priming up for automation. All the big execs are saying we're getting AGI by 2030, with UBI very soon as billions of jobs are displaced. Jensen Huang said that AI should do all the complicated tasks and we should instead specialize on things we like. We're moving to a future where money doesn't matter and transformer models will quickly scale to agi. Once we reach AGI, then super intelligence is extremely close as you cluster these nodes. Our humanity is linked to our culture, very soon AI will basically become like the internet is today.

[@TechnoMinarchist]

Lol. Ubi isn't the solution. It's just the stopgap to population reduction down to sub 1 million.

[@Zuranthus]

if you think you're getting free money from any of these corporations you're out of your mind lol, and it's not happening anyway, AI isn't that capable, maybe in 100 years

[@funniestdudeontheweb]

@@Zuranthus You have no idea what you're talking about. Literally the majority of experts expect AGI within the decade. Also it's either UBI or unrest by jobless mobs. It doesn't matter how much corps squirm, not even they can stop a giant portion of the population busting down their doors. It will happen one way or another.

[@Zuranthus]

@@funniestdudeontheweb experts? you mean the guys that own the AI companies & technology? no one that actually knows how AI works or actually develop the AI is saying this lol and you are beyond delusional if you think a public uprising in the US is going anywhere, the government has all the money and all the weapons, good luck with that

[@iheuzio]

@@Zuranthus Jensen built Nvidia from the ground up, he was an engineer on their cards and started cuda with Ian Buck. Cuda mainly serves datacenters moreso than gaming, nvidia was built around machine learning and high compute in mind. The majority of their sales have come from this sector for decades since the inception of CUDA. But I guess he's just a guy that owns an AI company... Clearly without him there would still be nvidia... He's the entire reason we have GPUs in the first place, otherwise we would have CPUs and single core performance prioritized for gaming, which doesn't compete against a gpu that has 15k cores against 8 cores. Now for other companies, you have most ML researchers stating that by 2030 we would have AGI achieved with LLMs serving as a path towards that goal. However, AGI won't use LLMs since transformer models predict using loss functions instead of actually thinking/processing like we do. It is a matter of when we will have a model that can process information to the basic level a human can.

[@guyvvbhvgdcvhyf-yl4ol]

"Robot builds a house", shows a printer, operated by someone, barely making a frame, not up to code, with no insulation, plumbing, electricity.... It's not a house, it was a wall. XD

[@destinydueler]

I always find it funny no one cares about all the automation that took people's jobs beforehand but when it's AI people freak out. ATM's, production lines, etc are all fine. AI appears it's the end of the world.

[@destinydueler]

@DutifulComments Fair enough, lol. I'm 33 so I only know it from history classes.

[@Harmonic_shift]

I think it’s more the speed that this occurs which will cause broad and systematic issue in regard to poverty as opposed to a minor issue in a smaller segment of society.

[@Mahouti]

As a manager, I always asks employees to use AI, we see AI as a tool to increase the speed and quality. No company will fire the content writer because there is AI! Then who will use the AI to create the content, who will decide what to write even if you ask it to AI too. You fire someone if you dont like him or if his salary is too much. But you have hire someone to do the job anyway.

[@MGC-XIII]

This guy knew for years that AI would take over his job. And he did nothing to stay on top of it.

[@D-K-C]

gaslighting

[@MGC-XIII]

@@D-K-C please be more specific, I have no clue who you're talking about?

[@justin-el5ne]

he is a child, hell figure it out.

[@sobekflakmonkey]

Labour my guy, become a labourer, all of north america is desperate for labourers currently, literally millions of job openings and the starting wage is always WELL ABOVE minimum wage.

[@lujanwelch4567]

Damn dude…hey McDonald’s is always hiring though

[@jaken6603]

Actually robots taking over there too

[@GFTW1]

Yeah about that

[@jubimagi]

They're already making automated fast food restaurants

[@AimbotFreak]

@@jubimagi America lacks the social stability for fully automatic fast food services.

[@ЕвгенийПершин-е1ь]

Do not take ANY jobs, because some smart guy on the globe figured out how to build crazy expensive replacement for you People are going crazy from pumping up their own anxiety

[@sbsftw4232]

Why on earth would you quit your job before you found a new one

[@izzuddinmnasir4884]

Mostly mental health issue

[@djocharablaikan8601]

I did the same and doubled my sallary, all people who told me i was crazy are still stuck in that same shitty job making half the pay, sometimes you have to roll the dice.

[@Atlas718]

@@djocharablaikan8601 Can't you look for another job whilst still being employed? That sounds much safer and practical.

[@djocharablaikan8601]

@@Atlas718 they wont hire you, in europe you generally need to give them 2 months notice, and if they need people now chances they will wait for you arent good, you dont have time for interviews sending applications and you dont have the energy and motivation for it either because applying for jobs in 2024 is a full time job in itself. Alot lf companies have very bad experience with people employed already, many people just send cvs even if they are not looking for a job at all. They just want "see" whats out there. Guy who can start "now" is definitly going to show up for that interview.

[@thelimelight6244]

Yes exactly why tf do we NEED jobs to live 😑

[@ImTheWinningest]

Because stuff doesn't just magically appear out of thin air. Why wouldn't you need a job? You can abolish money and all these systems, but somebody somewhere still has to be doing something, and why you should get to sit around doing nothing while somebody else does something? We are still a long way away from AI/robots being able to build and upgrade and repair themselves so that all humans can just do nothing, and I personally don't really want to live in a world that is entirely run and controlled by AI anyways.

[@GrumpDog]

@@ImTheWinningest Your reply was not needed. According to the IMF and many experts in both AI and economics, AI and soon humanoid robots, are likely going to out compete 60% of workers by 2030 alone! It doesn't matter what kind of world you don't want to live in. This IS going to happen, eventually, so why wait? The nature of what a job is, must change. Besides, people do not sit around and do nothing, unless they're trapped into doing so by welfare that leaves them worse off, if they try harder. Everyone wants to find purpose, and will given the opportunities and enabling factors. People will go back to doing more fulfilling things, that matter to their families and communities.

[@schwarg]

​​​@@GrumpDogubi IS welfare....the inevitability is a system where a select few billionaires enshrine themselves as the overlords in control of the AI systems where the rest of us are relegated to the UBI crumbs which will amount to little more than table scraps, significantly less resources than most people think they will be getting. In almost every forced equity society, everyone was equally dirt poor while a few oligarchs used their resources to steer society and influence the state to carry out their wishes.

[@JoeyG-o8r]

@@GrumpDog "People will go back to doing more fulfilling things, that matter to their families and communities." "Go back to more fulfilling things"? Most humans throughout history worked all day on farms, either their own or their lord's. All this "find your purpose" is modern millennial nonsense. This is a fallen world. This tower of Babel we have going is getting pretty high but it'll come tumbling down as it always does. If you think the culture can just keep going down the path it's on I have a bridge to sell you.

[@casualrider983]

total recall

[@AnthonyChinaski]

AI didn’t take your job away; your employer did