Assassin's Creed Odyssey - Hide and Greek

[@loganfisher3138]

Jon, PLEASE do a full series on this game. You actually have a degree in classics. There is simply no other youtuber better suited to play this game and nitpick all of its historical and mythological inaccuracies! Please!

[@amoc8907]

I Agree!

[@basvandeven1837]

On behalf of the entire community, we second this!

[@agrama.4543]

YES PLZ JON

[@Bethgael]

C'mon. The poor bugger would drive himself insane.

[@FluffyDragon]

I was really enjoying some of the added history stuff I found out from this video, yeah

[@namavoid3266]

Honestly, would be down for this to become a series. Looks like the type of game that would lend well to this channel; fairly good gameplay with a lot of possible historical inaccuracies.

[@chrisbellamy7145]

I think he would much prefer Origins, even so he's never been into playing these types of games for any length of time.

[@namavoid3266]

ThatCrazy Drunk first of all i find your typo very funny, no offense meant. second, this is fair, but i can’t say i expected him to finish the jedi game he played through on stream, and that seemed to go well, so i’d say it could absolutely continue on in some way.

[@herusolares5320]

not to mention the mission/episodic nature. Only problem is even the base game storyline is extremely long-winded.

[@CesarTheKingVA]

I mean, it's a pretty slow year for video games so far, and with everyone quarantined, well, why not?

[@ollymcgibbon4732]

I can absolutely see this being a game he finishes across streams

[@the_tactician9858]

Sigh... now we need a series of this Jon. Don't ignore this, please!

[@matthewfarrell1763]

PLEASE! More of this. You're really only like half of the way through the tutorial! You haven't got your boat, you've not started unraveling the cult, haven't upgraded leonidas' spear, haven't hunted your first legendary animal, haven't fought in the arena, haven't met your father... There's so much you haven't even touched on and it is so much fun. Maybe we don't need a "completes" series, but you could easily get 3-5 more 1 hour vids out of this without it getting repetitive. Especially if you focus a little more on your personal expertise. I loved your question about the area being ruined, and wanted follow up. I wanted to hear what you think about the arms and armour, the ships we saw and the buildings. The portrayal of every day life. I think that if you combine snippets with that, with the game feeding you new stuff every 15 minutes for the first 15 hours of gameplay, you would have an amazing series.

[@churrosmcgee624]

Yes jon a series might be a but much but a few more viddies would be perfect

[@CassCD]

Oh god. Jon versus the legendary boar in Phokis. That would . . . gods, that would be a sight to watch. I've NEVER been able to kill the thing without cheesing it and it would truly be glorious to watch Jon have a go at it.

[@amoc8907]

@@CassCD So true!

[@the_tactician9858]

@@CassCD Just out of interest... what do you read under 'cheesing'?

[@matthewwhiteman6788]

@@the_tactician9858 I'm assuming he means the usual drag two mercenaries into the fight and use them to distract it.

[@wilsonsilva2918]

Gotta love jon talking about the historical innacuracy of how phalanxes work while in sindycate the main characters are victorian spidermen

[@ManyATrueNerd]

And if I'm remembering correctly, the spiderman device was invented by Alexander Graham Bell.

[@willreaver1425]

@@ManyATrueNerd Actually, he repaired and improved it.

[@Novasky2007]

*Spring heeled jack wants to know your location...*

[@yashmody417]

Jon, on the map, look at the art piece right next to Ithaka, it's Odysseus tied up while a Siren sings to him! Also, the game acknowledges Ithaka as Odysseus's home. Check out the quests on that island!

[@OisínMcColgan]

I know the schedule is packed already but I would love to see a full series of this

[@shadushio9682]

I loved the culture, dialogue, visuals and aspects of the story. I did get a little bit burnt out on the slightly repetitive gameplay though. Still my favorite AC when all is said and done.

[@willreaver1425]

Yeah, it's a bit too grindy. The story is great but it does have an underwhelming ending

[@LaigledeMeaux]

@@willreaver1425 Unfortunately, it seems like when a game has a sweeping grand setting with a story to match it becomes incredibly difficult to end it satisfactorily. Mass Effect had the same issue.

[@willreaver1425]

@@LaigledeMeaux The story ends with an awkward family dinner

[@5Andysalive]

Slightly? that is the understatement of the century. And the big problem of the game.

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

Origins is my favorite personally, I just don’t really see Odyssey as an AC game. Like it’s a good game, but I just feel weird calling it assassin’s creed.

[@gourrygabriev610]

I'm 6 minutes in and I can already tell this is almost everything I want in a MaTN game. Ranting about peni, and historical facts, really the only thing it is missing is Jon asking Claire to talk and then immediately interrupt her.

[@myrddinemrys1332]

Yes, a livestream series of it would be excellent.

[@doktormusmatta]

Peni?

[@myrddinemrys1332]

@@doktormusmatta Penises

[@doktormusmatta]

@@myrddinemrys1332 right, but peni isn't the plural of penis.

[@myrddinemrys1332]

@@doktormusmatta I know.

[@jonathanskinner7647]

"the tide will take him there in a minute" Jon, it's the Mediterranean

[@sylvnfox]

the Mediterranean does have tides, they are just smaller. even lakes have tides they are just measured in inches rather than feet.

[@elijahh2220]

"Oh, but the hunter's belt looks much better, so we're definitely going for that" Wait til this dude learns about appearance swapping

[@robal96]

I want that feature in ALL games, it's so good

[@FluffyDragon]

@@robal96 It should last through equip changes though, that makes it super annoying to use sadly. Or at least have it be an option to Lock it in or something

[@Morentez]

Jon, as someone who has lost entire days of play time to this game I would LOVE if this became a full series. It’s an amazing blend of historical figures, Greek myth, and wacky AC science fiction that mixes together into something truly fantastic. I’d love to see your reactions to later quests and reveals.

[@elijahh2220]

I like that the markers are _optional,_ so if you're dyspraxic like me you can still play the game without getting horribly lost, but there's still a ~more immersive~ option

[@BloodClanL]

Jon, those villagers in the plague village were, indeed, about to be violently quarantined. Because they have the plague. You, uh, might not have wanted to save them.

[@tibsie]

SPOILERS! That moment right there is the moment that he seals the fate of everyone living on the island. He pulled a Boris and let the infection spread, now they will all die.

[@CesarTheKingVA]

Series! Series! Series! I would love to hear Jons take on their meticulous historical fiction ancient Greece.

[@ChengTeoh]

You've just doomed the whole island! ( should have quarantined the zone )

[@suiri277]

Here now we don't need more reminders of how the UK is at the moment, less talk about quarantined please....

[@JeffKelly03]

Please please please Jon, do a full series. In this time of crisis, what the world needs most is you nitpicking Assassin's Creed's version of Ancient Greece.

[@ellaisplotting]

^^^

[@jahpolley]

I would love a series on this - filled with Jon's history lessons on locations and people.

[@Troubleshooter11]

Madman runs back and forth, blabbering on about improper battle formations.

[@edchimaera2412]

Please Jon, you making a series of this is a dream come true, it was destined to happen!

[@zcritten]

I've been playing this so much recently, it's one of my favourite games ever because it bought me back to when I loved Greek myths as a kid, I was really unhappy when people just ignored it so I'm glad you have it time

[@Not-Great-at-Gaming]

43:50 Spartan Kick is great when you have a high level Mercenary chasing you. It is hilarious too though.

[@MrGhosta5]

i spent the first 15 hours of the game just running around looking at everything. i started in kepholonia at lv1 and was level 30 by the time i reached Create.

[@mysticdawn7569]

I did exactly the same

[@shadow9743]

How about we skip the stabby stabby and have another history lesson instead

[@delta5ff]

agreed

[@chrisbellamy7145]

The stabby stabby isn't even good in this game. The discovery tour is good though.

[@shadow9743]

I'm a huge ac fan but I refuse to touch this one

[@orxchi3853]

Ntk_Shadows your missing out

[@delta5ff]

@@chrisbellamy7145 totally agree, MATN already did a video on that and I was hoping he would do more

[@Al3xtheMeh]

I absolutely loved this game. Easily one of the best in the series. True it’s definitely not 100% accurate, but I feel a lot of the discrepancies have merit because otherwise this would be a very boring game. Later on you fight in these large battles that aren’t historical at all. But to be honest, fighting in a real phalanx would be pretty boring gameplay wise. Especially in this game where the MC is designed to be almost a demigod with their first-civ abilities.

[@gabisuciu6785]

Fighting in a Phalax or Roman Manipular formation would be fucking amazing

[@Nikelaos_Khristianos]

Ryse Son of Rome? I still get nightmares...

[@ZoeBateman]

Such a great game. Absolutely beautiful visualisation of Greece and it's islands, and a very solid game on top of it. The story is a little "eh" considering the supernatural future/past advanced civilisations, as with most assassins creed games though. Was probably my second fave game of 2018, but 1st in terms of pure fun. Definitely hoping for more of it here in the future!

[@dasmysteryman12]

The whole ancient aliens premise/background is what turned me off from the entire series. But with AC: Odyssey being set in ancient Greece (which I love) it was just too interesting to pass up, and besides, and correct me if I'm wrong, that lore is less obvious that in previous games as far as I can tell. I'm following the story at Delphi at the moment so I don't know if it becomes more apparent later on in the game.

[@ZoeBateman]

@@dasmysteryman12 unfortunately it does become more obvious a little later in the game, but the main game stuff is so good I think it's worth it, you can get through them in only less than 5 or 10 minutes too depending on how much you want to read so it's not that bad

[@robal96]

@@dasmysteryman12 It creeps in later on but imo doesn't take away from the rest of the game. I've always been put off by that as well and haven't liked many other entries in the series but really enjoyed Odyssey. I've always liked the concept of the AC series as historical fiction but hated the aliens/precursor/templar/modern day stuff. This game has the least of that I've seen of the few I've played and doesn't disrupt the experience like it does in Black Flag as an example.

[@jamiewalsh9184]

I was only thinking yesterday whilst playing this game, Jon should play this game. He really should, and here you are. Beautiful

[@ctrgaming6509]

This game shocked me with how quickly it won me over. It's got its flaws but I didnt expect to like it as much as I do.

[@davidriley8316]

I'm a 100 per centing Black Flag, then I'm playing Orgins, which I hardly played. Then I'm going to play finish this. As much as I love Black Flag, I feel the newer AC games are better from a gameplay point of you. Great video, Jon. Stay safe. This. IS. Sparta!

[@dre6582]

PLEASE make this a full series. You’re the best and I love this game so the two of you together would make my life complete!

[@EmotionalBooy]

Do a series!

[@noddler217]

Jon: *Spends entire opening scene of game complaining about phalanx inaccuracy* Also Jon: *Literally dangles from a God's bollocks for a lark*

[@wolfqueen137]

Omg yaaaassssssssss it's Odyssey on MATN, oh my quarantine dreams have come true!

[@thesllenderwoman4360]

Please do a full series John. I loved the game and would live to hear you point out the historical inaccuracies

[@fabiomoreira1506]

I imediately opened all the chests and syncronization points in the island. Some armors look badass like the snake armor

[@TheSuperSpaceSquid]

Both as a Greek and a fan of your channel, I implore you, make a series out of this! The game gets a lot better later on and there are some pieces of dialogue that you definitely shouldn't miss!

[@chrisP572]

hey, just subscribed today, i love your stuff tho watched probably 50 of your new vegas vids during quarentine. just so you know not everything in the game is in ruins. kephalonia and ithaka are ancient even to the people in origins so that stuff in in ruins but once you make it to the main land where the cities are kept by the athenians and whatnot things will start looking new. athens in particular is pretty special to see for the first time. but yeah, love your content, would love to see you play more of odyssey!

[@queenannsrevenge100]

26:54 - genuine spit-take. DAMN IT, JON!

[@BokoDisraeli]

It’s been too long since Jon has geeked out over antiquities. I still want the classics as explained by Jon as a series.

[@Thorongil83]

Ive beaten the game twice already. It is amazing. Ive read a lot of complains that this isnt assassin game anymore because you can just burst in and start swinging the sword but i was able to beat most of the missions stealthy so it is possible to do that - it depends how persistent you are and if you actually want to play stealthy. Warrior path is much easier (because doesnt require preparation and thinking) but stealth aproach to this game is still more fun :) Like in the old assassin days.

[@ResonantRTS]

What a beauty

[@suiri277]

How could Jon, the self proclaimed fan of the classics, end a video based on the ancient Greek time period by not visiting odysseus's Palace. How Jon? How?

[@TheSurprisePizza]

I would definitely like to see you play more of this, Jon. I've played a big chunk of it, though I didn't finish it, and I think it would make a good series.

[@CT--fp4se]

Watching these made me finally give Odyssey a chance and...I'm having a blast.

[@ajw5388]

This game is so huge that I can definitely see not wanting to make a complete series out of it, but it is definitely worth giving it a go for the first 10-20 hours at least. As you mentioned the game is gloriously beautiful, and setting sail with your ship and crew is so awesome. Plenty of fun quasi-historical stuff to find too.

[@tcsam73]

I just started a run through of this myself. Normally I'm not a fan of Assassin's Creed, but I'm surprised how much I've really enjoyed this game.

[@cadlefloof745]

I am so onboard with this becoming a series! I love the combination of hilarious commentary mixed with history lesson! It is brilliant! Please can we have a series please Jon!

[@evanswoodcentral315]

You really need to do a full playthrough series on this game. Your combo to take out Talos was fan-bloomin-tastic. As others have already said there is no other KZbinr better suited to do this than you. Keep safe and take care, regards Gary.

[@kursedboi9537]

Jon. Yet again you have convinced me to return to a series i hold very dear to me, Thank you for bring the true nerd out in me! Yet again.

[@MrLukalele]

Would love to see a series of this. Enjoyed this game a lot myself

[@AriJHalpernbilborockssocks]

I picked this up last week and have put 50 hours into it. It is incredible. Please do a series.

[@45under]

I've been hang out to see Jon play this since it came out, love it when we get the extra history lessons in a video!! would love more!

[@austinlange7210]

A year late to the party, but at two minutes Jon has spent the bulk of the time criticizing the game’s presentation of Spartan infantry tactics at Thermopylae. Dis gon be good

[@Camputrix]

We really need to see more of you playing this game, please Jon!

[@maddiewettach4954]

If this game doesn’t have a mission where you get drunk with Alcibiades and go herm-cutting through the streets of Athens then someone needs to lose their job.

[@kennandunn7533]

Well.......

[@instantrice6676]

Agreed

[@CesarTheKingVA]

Well you're part right. On the other hand, you can bang Alcibiades.

[@yourlongshadows5568]

This is exactly the kind of history lesson I can get behind.

[@ActuallyAcce]

I just finished watching the livestream and I'm so excited for this!

[@themonger42]

matn nerding on ancient greecian history while playing this game has become the boon to my weekend.

[@Mena50]

I just put over 125 hours into this game, finished that last DLC this morning...first thing i see on MATN, Assassin's Creed Odyssey! Lol

[@myrddinemrys1332]

I must admit I didn't finish the dlcs, after I finished part 1, and started on part 2 I went after the minotaur, after several hours of trying to kill the thing and multiple attempts, it murdered me just before I landed the killing blow and I rage quit.

[@Mena50]

The last boss in the Fate of Atlantis DLC was my almost rage quit moment. If you specked into the wrong ability, your going to have the bad time.

[@DeadDancers]

Would LOVE to see you play more of this. Kassandra is one of the better characters since Ezio, for all that she’s not particularly bright. (But even that makes sense in context)

[@ryantoth676]

Gotta say, I love it when Jon is super critical towards history inaccuracies. Jon, can we please have a video where you do this for like, 30 minutes?

[@QueernMental]

I hope this video does well. Classic MATN

[@MrGhosta5]

Nobody tell Jon what happens if you resolve blood fever by letting the family go free.

[@publiusquinctiliusvarus8886]

Love the critiques of the phalanx lol This is epic, nothing like a dong climb to make the day complete

[@h-ideas7217]

I will add Jon that the phalanx was a majority offensive formation, and yes your description of it was true as it being a single line we're the individual unit isn't the strength of the formation but the uniformed motion and maneuvers were.

[@CommissarMitch]

Oh my god I love how the Main character is basically Shouty Man from Horrible Histories.

[@johnlynch5117]

This has the potential to be an amazing series. With your knowledge of ancient history paired with the game's (supposedly) historical accuracy, I'd love to hear about any inaccuracies in their depiction of ancient Greece

[@d2factotum]

Just because a place is occupied doesn't mean there can't be ruins there--I bet there are empty and abandoned buildings in the very town you live in now, Mr. Many a True Nerd!

[@raf42]

So I've put a few hundred hours into the game, had a hell of a fun time. obviously you're not going for full game completion, that's not how this channel works. I remember spending 5 plus hours clearing out every single thing on kephelonia, then getting to the mainland and realizing that at that rate it would take me forever. every location will always have some sort of objectives that you can finish, which merely reward extra XP, they are not required for the questline, so just follow what the actual quests are asking you to do. really excited you finally decided to check out the game proper, hoping for more episodes but totally understand if you don't.

[@harveyh-doyle1795]

Brilliant video! Would love a series on this, or least a few videos!

[@killerkoalas3573]

We NEED a series for this

[@kevinc62]

Do a series of this. The game is really addicting and great. Favorite AC

[@Jovian999]

I have as much cynicism and franchise fatigue about Assassin's Creed as the next guy but... I goddamn love Odyssey. It's massive, but every inch of it makes me feel a warm joy in exploration that big open worlds don't often give me any more.

[@oergpoerg4658]

44:11 I'm disappointed he didn't belt a Wilhelm Scream.

[@GrandiaKnight]

Accidentally spartaed him...Oh John if only only you knew what was coming...

[@Knightcommander69]

Series please Jon! It would suite your gameplay style and commentary so much.

[@Incoherent-excitement]

That mission you had no idea what you did... uh, you sorta let the plague out. 😕😬 I’m sure it’ll be completely fine, though and certainly won’t effect anything else later on... Btw, don’t worry about what armour or weapons look cooler as they added a fantastic system that lets you change the appearance of your gear to what you want. As long as you’ve looted it, the appearance unlocks and you can customise the look so you still get awesome stats & a design you like. When you’re in the inventory screen, the option is there. They also added in a patch different gear set ups (not sure if you’ve unlocked that yet) but you can have 5 I think. I have equipment geared towards warrior play style, then assassin, hunter, poison and fire. So you can switch on the fly (even during combat) from stealthy stabby gear to fighty smashy gear if you mess up an assassination attempt. This game is a lot of fun, think you’re really gonna enjoy it.

[@raf42]

in regards to the diseased village, that's actually one of the harder decisions to make in the entire game, and for what it's worth I think the outcome you got was the correct one.

[@OddlySpecificGaming]

I’ve not been interested in an AC game for years but I’m really enjoying this!! Look at the size of the map too

[@LordEdmund1973]

Ooooh yes more of this please

[@radrush_mx957]

The way Jon talks about war tactics makes me wonder why they don't fight modern wars the way the ancient greeks did.

[@basvandeven1837]

Also, a small explanation for what happened in Kausos (the burnt, destroyed village). The actual quest was to decide what mattered most: that the family, who carried a disease, lives or that they die, in accordance to the wish of the armed priest. Jon has, accidentally, accidentally chosen the former. [SPOILER FROM HEREON] Halfway through the game, if you travel back to your starting island of Kefallonia, you will find that a giant epidemic has the entire island in its grip. This is because the family who you saved, spreads the plague. Kefallonia will keep this plague-y outlook and miserable people for the rest of the main game. Well done, Jon? x)

[@kristianaaberg7882]

Damn it Jon, you had to climb the balls!

[@tigrecito48]

everything you say sounds like double-entendres to me "i do so much cave diving" "i really hope i land in that bush"

[@Not-Great-at-Gaming]

Assassin's Creed logic: Falling 500 feet is fine, as long as you land in hay or a bush.

[@Vic-dl4ye]

I think we've learned Jon has a severe fear of jellyfish

[@michalmusial9263]

So good, youtubing new hights achieved by simply climbing on ancient statue testicles and you made it look so easy!

[@danny18312]

Jon, please make this a series

[@codybream5821]

Yes! More videos please!

[@Tammicci]

You just unleashed "Corona" with those sick people ;)

[@JDSG360]

Ah one of the best games Iv'e played in years. Good times!

[@lovrosedej7655]

Jon those sick villagers you freed.. lets just say that kefalonia gets a small preview of what the bubonic plague looks like if you return later in the game

[@wilbobaggins2253]

Good day, Jon! Any chance we'll see a continuation of Discovery Tour? Or even Origins Discovery Tour? It's been REALLY nice to throw it on in the background for ASMR while I work but I think I've listened to your video 20 times over. At least.

[@sweatiestbumb4095]

Jon please do a series of this game

[@Leonidas-nu3jp]

"Those shoes are to advanced for me!"

[@anthonytalksmovies]

The stuff that’s in ruins I just assumed were from the thousands of years of civilization before the classical period when the game takes place.

[@myrddinemrys1332]

Except that most of it is classical ruins. They've only had a couple of centuries to be built, fall into disuse and become ruins.

[@tarasis2722]

yeah, but why would they keep the ruins there, and not reuse the marble or just rebuild it? talking generally, if a place was populated in the past its probably going to populated in the 'present'. so they wouldn't just leave a dangerous ruin lying around when they could be living in it, or reusing the materials.

[@matthewwhiteman6788]

I've heard others say that some places were left ruined put of superstition, which would tie in with what we know of Greek culture. It makes sense, there had been hundreds of years of violent conflict there, if the locals believed a place was cursed, they'd leave it the hell alone.

[@AngryGingerHorse]

we've just begun a month of full national lockdown here so if you were to go full classics nerd and livestream this, the coronas are on me. I'll even be able to watch for once because I won't need to do pesky grown human existence.

[@ronaldlacerda6374]

I like watching ww2 documentaries and games and stuff. when he has the wooden mace on his back i keep thinking its a panzerfaust.

[@Nikelaos_Khristianos]

Context: Jon has an actual phobia of jellyfish. Subnautica taught us this much!

[@saugesmith2760]

Idk why I'm here so early, but I do lile ancient Greece. But I guess you can say this Assassin's creed is an odyssey.

[@magmakojote1663]

it took me over 200 hours to finish the base game, really felt like an odyssey for me :D