Assassin's Creed Valhalla Forgotten Saga Analysis Part 2 - Explaining the Ending (AC Valhalla DLC)

[@chrissiokc9602]

I still find it crazy that people dislike Valhallas story. There was so much great stuff and connections between vikings, order of the ancients, the isu, the animus and the modern day story. Even that there is so much analysis that can be done, shows the depth of it.

[@AccessAnimus]

The thing is, the mythological coating can be a turn-off for some of the hardcore fans that usually pass on or don’t really put a high regard on this kind of content. But it’s true, so much analysis that can be done!

[@davidestabilini4468]

@N7Andy I don’t dislike the mythological coating by itself, since I loved Asgard/Jotunheim’s arc. The problem in Dawn of Ragnarok is in the plot itself, they didn’t explain Surtr’s plan or what was the purpose of the salakar. I would imagine it would be no different in a pure Isu setting.

[@tomasmoura8387]

@N7Andy exactly! I am lost in all this mitológical coating and my fav part of AC is the ISU parts!

[@yutro213]

The problem is the Viking story, the Saga to conquer alliances at England that take way too much space from the plot of the game.

[@gabrielposso179]

My only problem is how all the conquering dragged for so long. Eivor was 10/10, though

[@craftingranger7552]

I actually loved this and I wouldn't be surprised if Baldr somehow shows Eivor the battle through the Isu lens in the grey. It would be awesome for her to finally see everything as it happened without that mythological veil.

[@mainstreammop2711]

Eivor is a Boy when the game begins so when you have the choice of gender it already makes ZERO SENSE

[@AccessAnimus]

I would love to see that indeed, if Baldr showed something to Eivor in the historical era, then that would definitely have to be in the actual Isu era with no filters or veils! She deserves to eventually acknowledge who she really is and what her legacy is… so hopefully 🤞

[@mackenziemcdaniel-paul8163]

@@mainstreammop2711 Child Eivor is voiced by a woman. Also unrelated to the current discussion + female eivor is cannon already.

[@mcslender2965]

@@mainstreammop2711 who asked + who cares + L + ratio + this you 🤓? + ok and?

[@Edrialyse]

@@mainstreammop2711 Eivor is designed with no obvious gender when the game begins, and it’s canon that the main character is Eivor the female.

[@AndyReloads]

I've been waiting for this! Cheers for all the hard work and analysis you put into these videos team! I feel like AC Valhalla in particular has become something like the Inception film but on steroids. I've been playing the AC games all my life and I'm at the point where I play these games, and I haven't got a clue what's going on haha. Thanks again for bringing some clarity to this jigsaw puzzle of fog and mist.

[@AccessAnimus]

Ha, thank you so much Andy! Indeed a lot of work goes on these videos, thanks man, I know you can understand 😅 I love your description of Valhalla’s story, especially the Myth part 😂 It’s always pretty complicated to try and understand what’s going on because the content is oftentimes vague and it’s very rarely confirmed by the devs anyway, so it’s totally understandable. I do hope that in the future it’s the story itself that brings more clarity instead of leaving fans disoriented 🥲

[@AndyReloads]

@@AccessAnimus Haha spot on mate but without you guys, we'd be a lot less "in the know" when it comes to the storyline, so big thanks again for ensuring the community actually knows what's going on 😂

[@pandacozumelable]

I am with you mate, I've being playing since the first AC and now I do not have a clue about the full picture lore history, yet I find more fascinating the life histories of characters such as Ezio's life and Bayek's. So I think Basim/Loki game will be great and I am ready for more content. Regards

[@jonathanwarda3100]

After you wake and return back to the Ravensthorpe and purchase everything in the shop and then the quest appears to drink the potion to return to Svartalfheim I’m just stuck there having to do what die in the last boss fight and expect the cut scene to appear.? Any help will do. I’ve got all the trophies for it also but can’t seem to figure out the final quest.

[@Martuf]

i believe the forgotten saga takes places right after Odin finds Baldr's body and before his fight with Surt. when Odin meet the dwarves after Baldr's death they ask him where has he been the last few days, and Odin is surprised by the "days", it is possible this missing days is the time he was in helheim

[@krotonval]

NGL I didn't expect Baldr to tease Assassins vs Templars war, genius

[@clonetrooper4426]

I think the tree odin sleeps under is the yggdrasil device. When he leaves the simulation Odin is covered by the tree's roots. Just like the yggdrasil device. + he enters the simulation under the tree itself, just like the Yggdrasil device

[@xehanorterra1122]

Balder soul was in the Salakar with Juno and Juno Resting place was somewhere in North America. Give that Evior resting place was also in North America, I think there might be a connection giving that Evior also experiencing memory’s balder too

[@DarkoRavens]

Eivor might actually get into the temple, despite saying earlier it wasn't for him/her.

[@xehanorterra1122]

Yeah I figure that Evior/Odin would technically have some unfinished business with Juno

[@chancechamberlain1583]

It's crazy that DoR was easily one of my least favorite DLCs in the series and this is definitely one of the best in this game. This handled the Odin/Mythological Vail stuff a lot better and was acted and written a lot better. This is second only to Siege of Paris in this game for me

[@AccessAnimus]

Indeed, I fully agree, gameplay wise it’s my favourite DLC for Valhalla. Story wise… I wouldn’t know, I have gripes with every story related content of the post launch, but it surely would be up there 😊

[@liamobrien4802]

I think the siege of Paris was the least fun DLC. Mainly because the area of Francia that you have is way too small. If they added what was outside of the boundaries and then some it would be better. Even adding the Frisian Kingdoms would be good.

[@tffknowledgekeeper1088]

I have to admit it: how could a story from a game mode would be more likable and make more sense than a DLC's story? Actually, this was the piece of post-launch content that I liked the most. And all I can do is thank you guys for making it all clearer for us. Btw, I completely agree with your Baldr theory, Markuz ;)

[@MadProphet1306]

Ngl, I'm excited for the last half of Valhalla's content, there's also plenty of evidence now that Darby's working on the "final chapter" (he has liked several tweets that say the same, plus his comments in that interview). I don't generally like the mythological coating, but I do like the way they've set up a possible clash between the philosophies of opposing Isu. Whether Darby chooses to carry this plot point forward or not, I'll be happy either way, and I think that's the best position to be in 😂. Also, if Eivor releases Baldr, is it possible that it's at the expense of her life? Like Desmond and Juno? (Since you need to give a life to release an entrapped isu from the grand temple machinery). We'll see. Since it's Darby, I'm kind of excited. Nonetheless, I'm glad that the last half of the post launch is ending on a brighter note, and is actually exciting and something to look forward to!

[@anazamura]

I'm also worried about the ending. I'm waiting with bated breath! I don't want Eivor to die like Desmond, really. Either way, she will most likely die. and I will cry, because I became attached to her for the whole game :(

[@DarkoRavens]

@@anazamura Likewise. Eivor deserves a solid ending that respects her character and speaks to how successful Valhalla is.

[@m.j.cervanez61700]

Damn, I guess present Basim/Loki will have more to digest than he could have ever realized.

[@towellight9400]

I just hope they actually touch on that and have Basim react to the final chapter and the events he sees.

[@tailgate8840]

Im looking forward to Eivors final chapter comming later this year I look forward to Atas analys of that especialy since it should tie into Ac 3s story and maybe give us a tease of whats to come for Rift and future Ac instalments

[@AccessAnimus]

Same! Both because it should indeed tie into the Grand Temple, the Salakar / spherical device etc and hopefully a tie-in to Rift, and especially cause it’s really time to finally move on to something else!

[@towellight9400]

I'm def in the camp of thinking that Baldr will be siding with the Templars. Great videos as always.

[@AccessAnimus]

Ha! And why would you think that? Genuinely interested 👀 And thank you so much!

[@towellight9400]

@@AccessAnimus The final sequence where Odin meets with him and talks with him... I feel he just oozes Templar controlling vibes. He is going so far and controlling even Odin, one of the strongest and most influential Isu of the era, at least as far as we know. Also I can 100% see him being anti-Loki camp and everything about Loki seems to scream Assassin, especially with the "Nothing is true; everything is permitted" motto. And if he is anti-Loki camp, I think it will be very interesting to see what Basim says after seeing Eivor's final chapter, especially if she ends up meeting up with Baldr in the grey. I really hope they don't just ignore the fact that Basim is the one seeing Eivor's memories and getting to peak at what Odin did in Forgotten Saga and Eivor's final chapter.

[@Edrialyse]

@@towellight9400 I know that’s the canon progression, but for me rn Layla is experiencing all this 🤣 distracted by side content 🤣🤣🤣

[@towellight9400]

@@Edrialyse Haha yea, but I imagine that he is able to observe all the past things Layla did. And also I imagine that the "Final Chapter of Eivor" will take place after Layla does her future stuff, solely for the purpose of making it so Basim experiences it directly and we can get his feedback on it.

[@Smokerates]

@@towellight9400 I´d absolutely would co-sign the first paragraph and by default the positiong opposed to Loki. But what gave me the most templar vibes, by far, was when the whole light theme, that became more and more prominent, but less in a literal way, but more kind of metaphoric: while assassins serve the light while working in the dark, the templar are bringing the light, illuminating people, enlightening them. Given the vast Templar influence during/on the enlightenment era (likewise the assassins had their in the renaissance, mainly to - in ac lore - ezio being the role model for machiavellis principe, which became kind of canon for "modern governance" at that time), i wouldn´t be suprised at all baldr being a force behind that period (maybe even becoming a sage at that period) and the next installment as well aas the first episodes of the live service building towards it, with the release that is known now under "Rift" being somewhat the proper kick-off towards a new journey through eras, culminating with Baldr´s return to initiate somwhoe what would then become the enlightenment era. That would not even need to be during said era (since 18th century saw its fair share of games) but could be placed before, somewhere from the late 1500s throught the 1600s.

[@assassinscreedislife7636]

Great analysis as always! I really enjoyed FS and how it tied into Dawn of Ragnarök. I’m really excited to see how all these stories tie together. I’ve loved every part of Eivor’s (and Odin’s) journeys, so it’ll be sad when it reaches it end. Here’s hoping that there will be a few more surprises for Eivor before her final chapter. I’d be a little disappointed if Valhalla’s year two content was just DoR, FS, and her final chapter. Especially since they decided to focus on a Basim game before finishing Eivor’s story. That kinda confuses me.

[@rohit_parashar]

Do you think the madness is some sort of bleeding effect? There's also another thing, since Baldr is kinda against Loki/Basim who sided with the Assassins, I felt it's more apt for Baldr to side with the Templars + It would be a new light for Baldr if he leads all humans with the apple and do his bidding Also I think Odin has a slight memory because he cuts the chat when he sees Synin in the final cutscene

[@Kevin-se7bg]

Maybe he wiped Odin/Evior's mind because Basim/Loki is now reading through Evior/Odin's memories to find his children. He didn't want knowledge of his plans to get out. I don't know tho

[@jamessmith-hh9wz]

I seriously hope they drop one last dlc allowing ya to actually play through ragnarok events.

[@AccessAnimus]

It’d be nice because it’s an event that has been mentioned so many times throughout the franchise!

[@JoshB100]

8:22 Hel speaking thru the tree reminds me of the Juno holograms in earlier AC games 👀

[@zakfrost8647]

Baldr keep talking of bringing light to new age in the gray area,maybe he's the first one who bring "we work in the dark (grey) to serve the light",i think he'll side with assassins.

[@Leo-Draco]

There is a small point that you missed , when fria throw hell back when she was talking through the tree, she said when you know which vine she used it’s easy which Is a reference to the hard wire that is connected from what the simulation is connected with main servers

[@AccessAnimus]

Ohhh! That’s super interesting, I didn’t think of that 😨 Thanks for mentioning that!

[@김종하오]

As someone already mentioned in the comments, something tells me that Baldr might be Jesus. That can explain why Rift is set in the middle-east and even includes Jerusalem. If that's the case, I'm curious how the devs will handle the story because depicting Jesus as a reincarnation of a Norseman might be regarded as sacrilege to some christians.

[@indiana_holmes]

As a Christian, I wouldn't care. AC is all fiction that has incorporated religious figures throughout its history. Treating Jesus as just another character in the overall story of the ISU and AC wouldn't be any different from what they've done in the past. It's not like it's going to affect my religion and attitude toward the real Jesus Christ.

[@jakub532]

@@indiana_holmes exactly 👍👍

[@pinseekergaming4760]

@@indiana_holmes same I think that'd be pretty cool the way they tied that in

[@Vwall007ST]

I hope to learn in the last Valhalla expansion why Eivor ended up buried in Vinland (Concord US). Maybe she finally enters the great temple and there speaks to Baldr via the same sphere that Desmond touched in the ending of ACIII.

[@iampumhead487]

I have theory 16:00 you mentioned baldur's resurrection after the catastrophic event is Baldur Jesus Christ in AC universe? Cause during the ending of viking era while converting them to Christianity missionary used to say that Baldur is Jesus Christ himself This also adds to the point you mentioned where he will help Templar. As Alfred created a new order for God's value

[@2000vascon]

I also believe in this theory that somehow boulder will resurrect in Jesus of Nazare. There are a lot of quotes that say that he is the new light of the world, and that Odin is the representation of a darkness in a world that is being left behind. While Boulder is the light of the New World.

[@JoshB100]

It’s a lil upsetting that DoR is summarized in this free DLC so you ain’t really need to spend $40 to know the story, but finally “winning” an finding out Odin did it before but lost his memories was a good plot twist❗️

[@melquiadeslezama7716]

Does anyone else already forgot…. “ we work in the dark to serve the light “ baldrs maybe be that light

[@marsaeternum1003]

it's so good to see ac Valhalla writing team's incompetence, they made all your predictions about the last chapter come out wrong

[@ahmedsachwani2868]

I also think that Baldur came out when the order turned into templars because abstergo uses the same logo that was used by the isu, loki was trapped, odin died with eivor, Juno was also trapped. The only person that could do it was baldur cause he was willingly inside the grey and could have come out to form the templars.

[@volpe7436]

Wait i just had an idea maybe the reason odin had all that trouble with eivor's personality could partly be due to baldur keeping odin's memories with him might partly be why eivor dosen't realise they are odin with all the playing with Odin's memories it could of caused some problems

[@samramos310]

I think the madness is likely the bleeding effect or something similar, Basim/Loki knew of it, and said the animus was basically similar to tech they had created before. He wasn't told about it, it was a documented issue.

[@GinamosWithCherryOnTop]

Baldr and loki playing a long game.

[@rohit_parashar]

It is here, this felt more ambitious than DoR ngl

[@AccessAnimus]

It's here at last! It kinda did to be honest, it's more interesting, more heartfelt, better acted, more consistent, less expensive (OFC) and depending on everyone's taste, potentially even more fun to play than DoR. I honestly spent an equal amount of time in both DLCs, around 20-25 hours, which to me says a lot

[@rohit_parashar]

@@AccessAnimus yeah true, it felt more weighted than the other

[@lavin214]

I hope we get a Ragnarok dlc or maybe eivors final chapter will show it.

[@stapleboi93]

I think the madness they're referring to is a more intense form of the bleeding effect. Niefelheim(sp?) Is like an animus

[@hi-am-pat2k176]

I heard after the end of ragnarok (or at in this case the end of the toba catastrophe) baldr will be ressurected maybe he could help the assassins in the next centuries or might be reborn like a sage like aita

[@volpe7436]

I can't wait to see how odin and eivor's story ends i can only imagine eivor's story will end at the same time we find out odin's fate presumably we will end the game with Ragnarok

[@Astristul]

I find it very amusing on how big were the expectations about the last chapter. At least you've learned your lesson! 🙂

[@DolineG]

Your videos look amazing I would love a French translation with subtitles! I'm crossing my fingers anyway !

[@anirudhkodial1977]

What if Baldr was a computer Odin made along with Frigg? Baldr was an A. I. believed to be the secret Eighth Solution? Somehow Surtr found out about the AI, stole it and copied it on the Salakar, but for self-preservation, Baldr sent a copy of itself to Hel's simulation? Explains why Juno tried to get close to the tower, to Baldr, because she wanted the information too. Odin had dedicated so much of his life to making Baldr, calling it his son. Baldr is referenced to be the bringer of balance, the hope for Asgard because Baldr was a potential solution. But the A.I. was so advanced, it became self-aware and deemed its own 'life' more important than the rest and stopped calculating and started acting on preserving itself through the Toba Catastrophe.

[@ryankwon8785]

Baldr’s enemies might be the Children of Cain (Proto Templars). There are many mysteries of who the Templar General of the Cross is.

[@Garcusmarvey]

Please Ubisoft after u give us the Baghdad ac game, and the Japan ac game….give us assassins creed isu civil war. I would lose my f’n mind

[@lostsoul7345]

In the myths thor isnt the son of Freyja, but Fjörgyn or Jörð and earth gaint.

[@charlesdeleo4608]

I thought that, in the myths, Thor's mother was the giantess Fjorgyn - one of Odin's greatest loves.

[@demigodhades4506]

I wonder if eivor will release baldir of basim will see him honestly wish we get more basim videos

[@AccessAnimus]

Same, I hope we can get more Basim content so we can have way more Basim videos!

[@demigodhades4506]

@@AccessAnimus well all we know is that he back to life with the staff from odyssey which could of had more Juno in it then basim took over Layla place and all we seen him do is talk to eivor grave and see eivor by the fire who they both smile at each other which to me is weird cuz basim/loki wanted her dead but they look at each other as long lost friends I mean even nothing after the dlcs

[@manuelhaas1960]

@@demigodhades4506 I dont know if Basim/Loki somehow got to experience Laylas memories of Eivor aswell. But anyhow im sure the reason he smiles at Eivor is because Eivor is way different than Odin in personality and behavior and he probably sees it as Eivor and Odin being two seperate people.

[@baltazarosilva8461]

I don't know why, but this Assassin's Creed Valhalla story where a part of Baldur's consciousness went into Salakar in the Dawn of Ragnarok DLC and another part of his consciousness went to Hellheim reminds me the concept of soul from Egyptian mythology and African-based religions, in which the soul is divided into 2 parts, a Ba (which would be the soul) and a Ka (which would be another spirit) in the case of the Egyptian, while in the African they believe that there are 2 souls, which for them are 2 angels who sit in the tomb when a person dies, 1 small and 1 large, the 2 ascend to heaven on different dates, and a zombie was created when a voodoo sorcerer captured one of these angels, something like that. Now, where this fits in AC lore, I don't know.

[@assassiiinuss9393]

Maybe the "base" where Odin wakes up is actually the same area as the Yggdrasil interface where Layla finds Basim?

[@AccessAnimus]

That's been suggested a few times in the comments, it would make sense because he comes out from the base of the big tree every time he exits the simulation... but at the same time, judging by the dialogues in the Anomalies, Odin should be far from his own territories and not in Asgard, while he's looking for ways to resurrect Baldr - to be honest I don't think the writers went too deep on this, but I might be wrong!

[@mprp2348]

Since the last chapter didn't reveal anything I can expect baldr to be a big player in the modern day story goings forward

[@muhammedgokcan22]

The mother of Thor was actually Fjorgynn, a giantess. Freya and Odinsson was Heimdall I think. He referred to it in the Letter of Rick. I am here without my father, my mother or my brother.

[@danielacedillo3714]

If it's anything like the Valhalla loop simulation...Odin may be stick and not want to leave like Freya was.

[@quintus920]

Any insights into what the 'Heithr Cipher' mentioneded in notes from Bragi in the scroll room in Helheim is?

[@AccessAnimus]

Sadly no :(

[@akatsukicloak]

I only saw like 20% of these cutscenes since I only had Havi die to the dragon until finishing the whole playthrough lol

[@cakeassassin6277]

Baldur doesnt say he will fight his enemies. He says that odin will fight them, wich may imply that fight happens before or after baldurs resurection. Norse mith says baldur reborns ans well as other gods such as thors sons( wich may be part of thors oat, keep my secret and ill save your sons) and he will rebuid the world together with the 2 last humans, wich may be adam and eve since isu had many names ( ill take it as people from that that are now known by many names, not just isu and not literally). Ragnarok is a story of rebirth, and weirdlly enough, maybe on a sexist view of mitology, the surviving gods are male. Wich to me means that baldur set things up so that humanity inhereted the earth, and he did what minerva asked desmond to do, let the world die, guide the survivors and create anew, and when you die, you will be seen as a god and worshiped. Funny enough baldur was named by christians as the norse version of christ i an atempt to convert the norse people. Baldur is basically jesus savior of humakind, and yes i know jesus actually existed and had an apple and shroud of eden.

[@danielacedillo3714]

It could also mean Baldr binding his memories at the end from Odin.

[@samramos310]

I saw the clip that flashed of Fenrir killing odin but I can't seem to find it, anyone got the source?

[@ynsan3]

i can understand why some people hate on assassin creeds story. and honestly you cant truly blame anyone for that. maybe ubisoft but the only part where they fucked up was ending junos plot in the comics considering it was something that started in the games. the ac universe is vast enough that it would require different types of media to expand on it. but they should keep the stories somewhat separate and if they need to connect the other media stories or characters to the games then properly explain them in the games themselves even as a recap lore page in the menus so that people know who the new people are. but to truly enjoy the vast lore and whats going on in the new games you need to read the various comics and some of the books. those who only play the games lack a lot of lore and what goes on in the background. heck just discovering why the assassins are on the losing side in the modern era is so interesting. (stares at daniel cross) someone who has a huge part in everything but doesnt get explained at all in the games. dumbest part is we take his life in the games without understanding why other then look hes bad. and the purists who want the games to be about assassins only clearly havent been following the story considering we have mythological stuff in it since the first game. only thing is the mythological/ancient scietific stuff expands as newer games come out.

[@daxtonperry7208]

I had no idea there were failed-run cutscenes, guess I’m just too good

[@khaledjmaa5599]

I don't know if i'm correct but i think Baldr and King Harald have the same voice actor. Any thoughts ?

[@Asha_Cosplay]

They sound similar. However, I also think that Nidhogg's voice actor is the same as Basim/Loki and Everold sounds like Halfdan/Thor, so I would not look that much into it.

[@AMBBrr]

Thanks ATA

[@AccessAnimus]

Thank YOU for watching!

[@Ragnorok657]

I find it weird how baldr some what looks like alfred and perhaps he is the father of understanding

[@stubblytuna4068]

good vid

[@AccessAnimus]

Thank you!

[@drskelebone]

Thank you for this (as I have the Sigrblot Crashes this month)! And we know it can't be an infinite loop, right? We see Havi in the Anomaly Video going out to fight at Ragnarok.

[@drskelebone]

Also (I haven't finished the video yet, so sorry if you bring this up): Odin attacks Niflheim over and over and over and over again. Poseidon attempts Atlantis over and over and over and over again. Do the Isu just like do everything a million times? :)

[@davidquellmalz305]

You know what I noticed since this festival my st George shield looks exactly like the festival shield idk why

[@Asha_Cosplay]

@@davidquellmalz305 Mine too lol

[@flamewolfman]

Could subject 16 aka clay, be potential sage for baldr

[@DarkoRavens]

Would have preferred Kievan Rus over all this second hand stuff on Odin. As much as I liked experiencing Odin's storyline. I feel like the Viking side of things might have been underhanded. I hope Eivor's final chapter will be worth the wait. I've been enjoying Valhalla since release and I need to see it end on a high platform.

[@Chippythekidd95]

Isn’t Frigg just Freya Aesir name?

[@FlasKamel]

I actually loved this DLC. I’m sick of the norse storyline, but this one felt very focused. They should’ve skipped DoR, added this, and made a more ambitious final viking age update.

[@AccessAnimus]

Absolutely, I felt the same. Focused is the perfect word to discuss this DLC. And yes, I would have loved for them to go with this and then a bigger and final focus on Eivor (which might still happen at the end of the year though!)

[@mdottfrmthehill]

Does anyone think, that they will continue Valhalla?

[@lazuli8950]

Look, I know jesus in the assassin's creed lore was a normal human and not a sage but I gotta say, baldr's dialogue to me souded a lot like the cristian stuff I heard as a child

[@Marquis-Sade]

24:45 - Far Cry reference?

[@KellenWolfe]

Baldur is the Father of Understanding!

[@AccessAnimus]

Ha! Would you say so? Why that?

[@KellenWolfe]

@@AccessAnimus It's definitely not well-founded at all but there are a few sinister moments and line deliveries about his Light that makes me think it could be a fake out. I think he could be related to technology like the Apples and he could have been controlling Hel or influencing her to help him. It's very mythological to just be so in love that you lose your mind but I feel like there's a darker angle to him.

[@caseykay6955]

Its so annoying that you just have to leave without actually ever accomplishing what your trying to accomplish

[@kareemlake5185]

How does the seventh method work in terms of the reincarnation?

[@tffknowledgekeeper1088]

The Isu upload their consciousness to the human genome pool through Yggdrasil, where they DNA will travel through generations exhibiting a recessive trait until a random trigger turns that trait into a dominant, which changes the physical and psychological characteristics of said person, and turns it into a reincarnation.

[@davidestabilini4468]

Under favourable circumstances, the dna the Isu inserted in the human genetic pool is recreated as a perfect copy but with a human body. Since memories are in the dna, they can resurface and the Isu himself can, in a way, reincarnate. The Aita sages appears many times through hystory. They have a human mind with Aita’s memories presenting themselves like with the bleeding effect. Not all of them were taken over by those memories, mantaining their human mind. The sages in Valhalla appear just one time, during the Middle Ages. We don’t know exactly if they have two minds, like the sages above, or (but this is my theory) if they are meant to have just the Isu’s mind thanks to the scar on the neck, but Eivor is different from the others due to the wolf biting over the scar. I would like to defend my theory, but there is no decisive evidence that make one point of view overtake the other.

[@kodysammons1760]

Loki intends to return Fenrir somehow. Baldrs destiny is to defeat Fenrir. Baldr will return in the modern era to combat Loki and Fenrir

[@ynsan3]

yeah makes sense. afterall the prophecies were the isu seeing some variations of what happens in the future. retold as prophecies through the mythological lense.

[@vicioushunter4769]

Is AC Valhalla coming free on EPIC Games anytime soon?

[@2000vascon]

-Baldur to Odin: I must bring light to a new age. -Jesus Christ in John 8:12: “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

[@danielacedillo3714]

Thor's mom is Earth.

[@LinusWilson]

Baldur is gonna kill Basim in the present day.

[@Marquis-Sade]

How do you know that the final chapter of Eivor is going to be released at the end of the year?

[@scorkami1789]

There were *some* leaks about tombs of the fallen chapter 2 coming out later this year with some more story implications than the first chapter Beyond that? There's not much proof of literally anything It is assumed that rift, the game about basim which started as a Valhalla dlc but then got turned into its own game, will come out early 2023, and that this means Valhalla will stop getting support (like dlc and content updates) So the thought process is that Valhalla will habe it's final updates towards the end of this year so that next year is cleared for assassin's Creed rift There's also the fact that assassin's Creed no longer purely makes main entries but also side games like the infinity game and a missing roadmap for 2023 for Valhalla indicating the end of Eivors journey which i find quite sad because i wished we would get more mythology or more ravensthorpe content next year since I'm in love with the game (and we need more stuff to do while wearing the hugr rip) but nothing is confirmed and who knows if support truly stops.

[@Marquis-Sade]

@@scorkami1789 Du bist deutscher, oder? Sorry if I am wrong and you are not german-speaking. Infinity is not a side game. Its the next big thing. No more mythology stuff, pls

[@scorkami1789]

@@Marquis-Sade infinity is a live service game that will deviate from the typical "single player linear story" approach AC had. Rift will go back to a strong stealth approach Mythology will likely be a thing either way and if people like it or not is a subjective thing (especially since others hate the hard sci Fi ISU stuff or the modern day all together, there's no pleasing everyone) I'm personally just hoping that Valhalla still gets expanded upon a bit before the line is cut and everyone moves on because i enjoyed the game (and making a huge gameplay addition like the hugr rip shouldn't stay in a single world since it's such a big thing, either just unlock it for new game plus/allow us to find the ISU tech in England, or expand the world where we are allowed to use it more (aka adding more to svatalfheim, or adding more myth content like muspelheim, Alfheim, etc)

[@Marquis-Sade]

@@scorkami1789 Infinity will be the "hub" for the next main games, just like you saw it in Unity. I hope Rift will be good. Who hates the Sci Fi stuff? That was how the ISU where brought into the game. the hugr rip? Whats that?

[@DarkoRavens]

@@scorkami1789 Odyssey got a new quest about three years after it released. So the same might just happen for Valhalla and Origins as well. Personally, I'm hoping for a Kievan Rus expansion better late than never.

[@shdw787]

My guess as to why Eivor is in vinland is because that's where loki will be in the present. We take the staff from him and revive Eivor. She goes back to the yggdrasil device and with Layla and Desmonds help they explore the infinite possibilities to prevent the upcoming cataclysm. Boom: Assassin's Creed Infinity.

[@davidestabilini4468]

It’s the other way around, Basim goes there because Eivor is there. She could die in England and the Assassins would have gone there seeking her body, taking Basim with them in the end, so he would end up with Eivor’s corpse in every possibility. And there is no way to revive the deads, even in Assassin’s Creed. It was stated several times, and every attempt made in the past, like with the Shroud, has failed.

[@2000vascon]

I also believe like some others wrote in the comments that Baldur will somehow leave the Salakar and incarnate on a human and in that case, that would be Jesus of Nazare!

[@Shadowpack95]

No offense but you put more work in trying to justify and connect the extreme fantasy elements to the original sci-fi historical than the writers do. In fact I can clearly see them waiting for you to explain everything then say that's what they were doing all along.

[@AccessAnimus]

None taken, I can understand that might seem the case. To be honest, I did criticize them in the past when the story did not make sense to me and made it pretty clear that in my opinion this mythology coating needs to go and needs to go now. In this case the story made sense to me, and yes, it might all be my headcanon because the devs did not try to make the story clearer, but interpretation of the narrative is what we do (among many other things) here at ATA, so I did try my best as usual ^^ But yeah, I do know for sure that even in the past some of our content (or other fans' content) was WAY beyond what the writers originally wanted to convey with some aspects of their stories

[@Shadowpack95]

@@AccessAnimus I've been a big fan since the Siege of Paris breakdown. But Valhalla is really killing my love for the franchise, they seem to be focusing more on monetizing the store then actual story, and I'm tired of the mastery challenges to the point I gave them up along with the river raiding

[@tomhasflow2562]

They're gonna make Baldr into Jesus

[@AccessAnimus]

Even in that case the enemies would be the Templars or Order of the Ancients 👀

[@Ozzie_Mandias]

In real life Baldr from Norse myth, Jesus from Biblical religion, and Buddha has this in common… they are murdered, but rise from the grave and become messianic figures for the divine and mankind. In Norse myth… just like Jesus from the Bible… Baldr is the kind of deity who stops wars via convincing people to lay down their arms… in contrast to his war hungry brother Thor.

[@xxxplane12xxx6]

yeah I want to see the Isu Jesus

[@pertubandoapaz9233]

Isnt baldr just desmond?

[@valtontony826]

Desmond is in the yggrasil simulation

[@logan_the_rock5664]

God this is so fucking confusing

[@kazekagejichujisoo7838]

So Baldr is Subject 16

[@tomasmoura8387]

I love ISU lore but this is confusing as hell! Why does this needs to be full on mithology? Why are they not clearly ISU? I hate this! I am missing alot of Lore on this way of story telling! Hope this stops!

[@michaelamail4407]

Agreed, it’s quite complicated to follow. Also the fact that these are add ons and not part of the main story makes it very easy to miss. Frustrating.

[@mainstreammop2711]

The whole thing Is a SIMULATION. THE ANIMUS IS SIMULATION. IT MAKES NO SENSE BECAUSE ITS NOT REAL LOL

[@crowngaming3277]

How much do you want to bet that Jesus had a mark on his neck? I feel like this god of light, a god higher than the aesir, the Greek gods, and the Egyptian gods that is mentioned in the story is either baldr or Jesus is baldrs reincarnation and he sees himself as the son of the god of light, as being his interpretation of baldrs memory

[@ynsan3]

oh yeah absolutely either that or a human who found an object with an isu locked in it like the staff. i hope they expand on jesus in a future game. would be interesting to somehow play through that era through the eyes of ac lore.