Assassin's Creed Valhalla - Dawn of Ragnarok Story Analysis Part 5 - Why Eivor Ends Up in Vinland

[@Max1990Power]

It is amazing to have followed this unique storyline since 2007. Lots of twists and turns. Sometimes confusing for sure but the core of it still holds. So I am looking forward to what comes next. And regarding this dlc. It was good.

[@Marquis-Sade]

It doesnt hold at all. They removed important story plots to comics and now just force mythological stuff into the ISU story, no matter if it fits or not. The Vanir had a fight at Ragnarok in the myths so the ISU must also fight now. And nearly nothing is shown beneath the "vail". Like who is Fenrir as an ISU?

[@zac-1]

you're not allowed to like something the internet has declared bad

[@DMPTC]

in my perception, the solar flare, was innevitable, but odin actions presented in this dlc, killing surtur and letting loki "escapes" led to a 'Isu World war" at the same time with the the 'human isu war', that resulted in so much isu being murdered just before the solar cataclism, that led to a isu post apocalypse population, so smal, that they extinction were inevitable. If the 'isu world war' didint happened, they could have a chance to repopulate the planet once more after the solar flare, but as i see, the 'isu world war' was innevitable already in the events of the base game 'odin regretions'. The 'sutur sword cutting the sky' is the event as the isu refered as 'nods in time' a event presented in isu multiple time lines calculations, that is constant in any timeline.

[@AccessAnimus]

Hey Dabota! I mostly agree with this! The solar flare *was* inevitable, the Isu had predicted its arrival but were never able to counter it during the Isu Era. And then they had their own final war (they had more before that), which surely decimated them and indeed made it so that even fewer of them survived the Toba Catastrophe. And yeah, the ending with Odin killing Surtr and more importantly the catastrophe that came after it are some of the nodes mentioned in Origins 😄

[@DMPTC]

@@AccessAnimus yeah, and this kinda makes me remember the emails from the AC1, where is portraided a world realy messed up in 2012, with war, epidêmics and these sort of things

[@AccessAnimus]

@@DMPTC Yep, although sadly most of those were retconned in Assassin's Creed Initiates in order to make the modern world in AC more similar to the one we're living in

[@Marquis-Sade]

@@AccessAnimus What wars came before that? And what are the other nodes?

[@Marquis-Sade]

@@AccessAnimus How did they retcon it in Initiates?

[@TheNick1536]

“That would be poetic and amazing so I don’t expect it to happen” LMAO. I love the theory but this is extremely true. Knowing Ubisoft I wouldn’t be surprised if they jusy send Eivor to Vinland in a comic book or a database entry.

[@turboyarag]

It will be something like old Eivor going there to be buried just because she liked the lack of buildings or whatever

[@Marquis-Sade]

Yeah a comic book no one heard of, one you only get at a McDonalds menu or something obscure

[@Marquis-Sade]

@@turboyarag That would be dumb

[@davidestabilini4468]

I don’t think Eivor went to Vinland searching for Baldr, because Eivor’s mind has nothing to do with Odin’s, after their separation in the prologue. When Odin and the others use the seventh method it leaves a mark on their neck. Ignoring the fact that its sole purpose can be making the sages recognisable (like with king Harald), why is this scar there even in the middle ages? Scars aren’t inherited from the isu, as we can see Eivor has both her eyes and Sigurd both his arms, so the machine makes them have those specifically because it has a purpose. Then, in 858, Eivor gets bitten, the scar damaged and that event triggers the separation between Eivor and Odin. It is not a coincidence that the animus finds two different DNAs and crashes right after that. We can see she is different from Sigurd in several occasions thorough the game, she sees Odin’s “ghost” and can only access his memories thanks to Valka and the potions, and those visions are altered, while Sigurd seems to see Tyr’s memories without the mytholgical veil. I find this contrast evident when they’re before the saga stone: Sigurd can read it and has a vision for himself while Eivor needs Odin to explain. If their condition is the same, why don’t they have the same reaction? After Fulke makes resurface Tyr’s memories, Sigurd has more visions in first person without the use of Valka’s potions. He even finds the temple of Yggdrasil, where they encounter Svala, who of course went there in a way similar to Sigurd’s. And they interact each other differently from the way they interact with Eivor, calling themselves Tyr and Freyja and not calling her Odin or Havi. Odin appears at the end, trying to remain in the simulation to live forever, but he is the only isu to appear separately from his sage. And in the end, we have Basim’s reaction to the scar: when he says “the kiss of a wolf takes my prize” he means the bite took away his possibility to kill Odin, because he already failed to reincarnate. And find it amusing that it was exactly a wolf, like his son Fenrir (well, not exactly).

[@indiana_holmes]

You're assuming everything Sigurd sees is in first person. The player isn't actually viewing his experience from his perspective. It's entirely possible that he is also shown visions or being guided in a similar way to how Odin affects Eivor. I like your theory, but there isn't much evidence to support that Eivor and Sigurd's experiences are completely different. Eivor's near death experience as a child is definitely significant, but how exactly it affected the connection between Odin and Eivor is still very unclear. There are a lot of uncertainties surrounding the nature of the 7th method and the sages, but that's what makes it interesting. Basim's remark about the scar was referring to the fact that the scar obscured the identifying mark on Eivor's neck, so he didn't realize she/he was Odin until the end.

[@davidestabilini4468]

I know in fact I don’t have decisive evidence, I hoped to find one in the DLCs and now I hope in rift, since we will see another sage in first person. But I can’t see Basim’s comment as “until now”: he understood Eivor was Odin in the end, so he can have his vengeance, why would a wolf take his prize from him? Because he lost his opportunity when the bite happened, long before he met Eivor.

[@indiana_holmes]

@@davidestabilini4468 but Odin was still a part of Eivor, so the wolf hadn't taken anything from him. It had just hidden him.

[@davidestabilini4468]

But Eivor is not Odin, while Sigurd is Tyr, Svala is Freyja and Basim is Loki. Even Rig regained his memories as Heimdall. I really believe the scar was needed to make a “real” reincarnation, not only a body with copy of the memories. Why the scar if it has no real meaning? A new conscience with isu memories would be a sage like those of Aita, whitout the scar in the neck, but he was already dead when Juno used her version of the seventh method, so there was no conscience to recreate in a future human. As always these are not real evidences, as we don’t know what Juno wanted from her version of the seventh method.

[@indiana_holmes]

@@davidestabilini4468 I'm not saying you're not right, but you're assuming that Sigurd, Svala, Basim, and Rig all experienced their alternate conscious' in the same way. Like Eivor though, none of them started life as Tyr, Freyja, Loki, or Heimdall. They appeared to have independent lives until their ISU alters manifested. Outside of Eivor's experience with Odin, Heimdall and Sigurd are the only ones we get some sort of insight into how their conscious manifests within their human hosts and they both had different experiences. It's entirely possible that every other sage had some kind of confrontation with their alternative conscious just like Eivor had with Odin, but we just never saw it. In the other sages' cases, there may just have been less animosity and disagreement between host and alter, allowing the ISU to take hold. The wolf is responsible for something, it's just unclear what. I always assumed the wolf had basically killed Eivor and that Odin's conscious was forced to manifest early, saving Eivor's life. As a result, Eivor became aware of Odin as a separate identity, viewing him as her/his guide until recognizing the truth in the end. The other sages seemed to have grown collectively with their ISU alters, aware of something in their subconscious but not able to grasp it until eventually merging at a later date. Like I said though, the sages and the 7th method are all very vague. Each sage's experience is also very unclear. For instance, Faravid also shares the scar of the sages, and is reported to have been one by Darby (I can't remember who he's meant to be). As seen in Valhalla though, like Eivor, Faravid doesn't seem to meld with his sage and is eventually outcast or killed, never allowing for the manifestation of his alter. Faravid's scar was intact though, so why didn't he meld with his ISU alter?

[@craftingranger7552]

The ending was a mess honestly and it literally breaks away from the mythology since Sutur is supposed to be alive during Ragnorok

[@ELDIABLO_71]

It's ubisoft it's not gonna be entirely accurate

[@craftingranger7552]

@@ELDIABLO_71 True but saying Odin caused ragnarok should've been explained. If it said the tower set of huge seismic shocks that messed up the Earth rotation which led to it being hit by the solar flare then I'd accept it but here it's too vague

[@ELDIABLO_71]

@@craftingranger7552 fair point but as I said it's ubisoft they never properly explain anything

[@AccessAnimus]

The thing is, I guess they were trying to match the ending with the established lore, but like I said in other videos, they ended up not catering to both types of content and fans :(

[@drskelebone]

Who to say he isn't? I believe the usual mythology is that at the end of all the events, Surtr burns everything that remains to ash. There's the war, the flare hits, Juno's towers crumble/the Salakar discharges/whatever hand wavy thing the writers want, and just before everything is obliterated, Surtr re-emerges, sees the destruction around him, and dies with everyone else (permanently). We never see anything after Odin and the Aesir walk out, so anything could have happened.

[@yourlocalbirb8179]

I think it's worth pointing out that we see "echoes" of Baldr a few times throughout the base game; Ceolbert being the most obvious one (the circumstances of his death combined with the proximity of the Animus Anomaly in the same region for added emphasis), with Hunwald a close second in terms of similarity (claims to be a descendant of Woden, dies anyways.) But there is also a third echo that I don't think anyone else has taken note of yet; Layla herself. She's set up as the chosen one by the preceding narrative, is tricked and (symbolically) 'killed' by Loki, and even 'dies' of (radiation) poisoning. (Or, well, she /would/, if she left Yggdrasil without a healing PoE. As it stands, she is technically held in cryostasis and thus not /quite/ 'dead.') Perhaps Baldr's 'resurrection' isn't quite so literal or direct as the myth implies, but more of a symbolic one? Or maybe I'm just hoping that Ubisoft could actually write compelling and tightly interwoven stories again without leaning so heavily on vague mythological references as a crutch/substitute for actual thoughtful attention to lore lol.

[@e.xcalibre]

I want to add to the Layla piece with the fact that she could potentially be the Author the messengers in Origins had mentioned. With that being said Baldr had the ability to 'turn day to night and back again'. Maybe he had some base level of manipulation of the flow of reality due to his ability of 'light', whatever light represents. With his consciousness being essentially shot out to lord knows where, maybe the grey, and with the amount of consciousnesses in the Salakar, I think Baldrs consciousness fragmented and possibly stayed in the Salakar and as a result when Juno used it for whatever she did, the fragment continued to reincarnate along the other Isu, and eventually made its way back to the Grey through Layla

[@e.xcalibre]

Initially I had thought Baldrs consciousness had somehow resided within the sun and made it unstable and maybe that's how he got to the Grey, collision of energies causing the toba catastrophe, and maybe that's still feasible, possibly leaving behind an unstable amount of energy in the sun that has it 'destined' to go off over and over, or just outright causing an echo in time if the sun absorbed the energy from the towers emission

[@e.xcalibre]

Shit adding on to more of this I wonder if there were three fragmented pieces, the piece that went to the Grey, the two that stayed in the salakar. Looking at Desmond I can't see the defining qualities he has from baldr aside from also being tricked in to 'killing' himself with a poison, also radiation from the eye or possibly the salakar without the veil. A defining quality in the Grey that Desmond could be baldr in the aspect of the Reader is the fact his body is pure light, possibly Baldr's 'light'. Maybe light represents the ability to look beyond the regular flow of time, to not only read it but to create new branches, which is what Layla offers to Desmond in the Grey. Perhaps Desmonds fragment of Baldr was the ability to read the calculations, and Laylas was to be able to write them as the author. That only leads the one fragment within the Grey. Is the Grey potentialy that fragment of baldr? I'm not sure if we know how long the grey has existed, if the elves who were stated to have a higher knowledge of everything above the Isu, created it, or if it's always existed as a place outside of base reality.

[@Aalok1991]

Yes! thank you, that letter caught my eye too! I too felt that if this dlc was supposedly going to reveal so much of core lore - the catastrophe, the isu wars etc, they cudv been a bit more ISU-ey in the depiction to make it clearer. Also the fact that Baldr seems to have many similarities in nature and qualities to Desmond/Layla/the protagonist, they gave him very little focus maybe the future installments work on this better.

[@yd9811]

I've just started watching the series of your videos with the analysis of Valhalla plot. It starts from the analysis of anomalies. And in one of the conversations between Aletheia and Loki, Loki mentioned that he was involved in Baldr's kidnapping. And in the next one he mentioned that after Baldr's death Odin started roaming the world in search of the way to resurrect Baldr. So that might be the explanation of the gap in Dawn of the Ragnarok plot between Baldr's death and Odin's return to Svartalfheim to kill Surtr.

[@donnanewcombe6158]

i think evoir went back to vinland as he had no foes there,as he had lead a violent life to that point when he interacted with the native people he felt peace and a place to belong as they shared tales of there life to him ,he himself was able to tell of amazing tales with out the fear of reprisalsals. (i like to think he found peace after all the blood shed )

[@justajona]

Same as Sigurd and Floki in the Vikings series

[@Max1990Power]

@@justajona or bilbo and frodo who went to the West after all their suffering as ringbearers.

[@flamewolfman]

I mean he is buried there, we see his/her grave

[@retbookers]

They could've made it like Fate of Atlantis. Just have Odin explore the Isu realm as it is. Not as a fantasy theme.

[@AccessAnimus]

I would have preferred a more direct approach too, honestly, though that's probably not something that Ubisoft would try and market...

[@retbookers]

Agreed. A more direct Isu approach would give the writers more freedom to explore the lore. But they limited themselves with the mythical veil. Since AC1, fans loved the science and technology of the Isu. Just give the fans that.

[@spudman1905]

@@retbookers I love it and fans hate it even if it's Mythical based

[@TheDreamManifester]

FoA was also a mythological greek lens. Actual ISU had different modernized technologically advanced architecture.

[@ConnorLonergan]

@@TheDreamManifester Yes, because spheres that hold all of the knowledge of the universe and swords that shoot lasers are the epitome of modern technology. The Isu were advanced sci-fi beings who had the aesthetics of mythological beings. But Ubisoft decided to drop the Sci-fi and go on the fantasy myth.

[@MrSpawn229]

It's more complicated: Eivor ends in Vinland- because Layla has to find her body there. Eivor gave Crystal Ball to the Mohawks (ACl- AClll, Ratonhnhaké: ton, Desmond ending in gray - "the first phase of the earth's salvation in modern times" - the Juno plan), the second phase mythological trilogy- the Loki's plan (Layla expedition in Egypt, finds Herodotus poem, discover Eivor's body in America- Ends in gray). Adam and Eve in gray - Desmond and Layla (find Eve... find Layla) can make calculations to save world in modern day...

[@r6nr373]

Wasn’t an apple of eden

[@Mighty_Dork]

I think the tree that Norse Adam and Eve "hide under" might be the 7th method again. Odin in the Hidden Truth video calls it a tree. Adam and Eve can "emerge from under it" by their new bodies being released from the machine. And then they can repopulate. That would also explain how Desmond is somehow the reborn Adam and Galina is the reborn Eve: they are Sages created by the 7th method when Adam and Eve used it to survive the Catastrophe. Or maybe I am not remembering some details from the series that clash with my theory idk

[@2000vascon]

My theory is that eivor put odins spirit in the grand Temple, along with Juno in the events of assassin‘s, Creed, Valhalla. That quote in the end of the file that Baldus is reborn independently of the others makes me think that he enter the conscience of an individual human, and would be really cool if it of jesus of nazare, where baldur spread his ideology of peace and love

[@Sumguyinavan_]

I think we need to dive back into the mythology to understand everything that is going on. We keep referring to the Muspels as 'North African Isu' but don't seem to start connecting them to the North African/Egyptian pantheon. If we read more deeply into some of the commonly focused gods like Osiris, Sekhmet, Sobek, etc then we might be able to figure out who the Muspels are in that pantheon (with Surtur in theory being Amun and we would likely go from there with wives and children). Likewise we would have to determine that with Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva being 'Greco-Roman' pantheon and the Romans effectively just historically rebranding the Greek gods, we have to determine how Hades and Poseidon fit into those 'frost giants' and the influences they had from their territories. And we need to start considering Kassandra's interactions with Alethia's simulations as two are depictions of an afterlife and one is stated to have been the actual place she is standing before it was destroyed. Likewise with Eivor, she enters a simulation that fit her culture's descriptions of Valhalla which rather than a gathering place for the dead seemed like a place for warriors to train infinitely in non specific amounts of time without actually being injured or dying. And because of these simulations, I am not yet willing to totally let go of Bayek's visions in the Valley of the Kings which were influenced by the Apple passed through the line of Pharaohs and simulated afterlives from his culture- the veil as we keep putting it. And due to the presence of Apep in one of Bayek's visions and in the Duat of the DLC simulation/vision, the giant serpent skeleton south of Delphi in Odyssey corresponding to Apollo slaying Python, and now mentions of Loki's child Jormungandr- I am not convinced that there is not a giant serpent somewhere in the world that Loki/Basim is not trying to find in the modern era and 'awaken' again (specific choice of word in this DLC). I am expecting of this 1 of 3 things: 1- its just a giant snake, how or why we don't really know but hey Titanoboa is a real historical creature so giant serpents aren't unreasonable, 2- It and Fenrir are creations of the Olympus Project, 3- As the one enemy can turn into a giant cat, and the Egyptian gods are usually depicted as half human half animal and are believed to be incarnated within animals- it is possible that certain Isu have an ability or technology to turn into giant animals which may explain Fenrir and Jormungandr. This is a 5000 piece puzzle that we keep putting together one game at a time but we still can't see how it all goes together yet, and we aren't putting it together in any specific order. We have to be patient when things aren't explained now because the Isu events of AC2 weren't explained until Valhalla came out.

[@dublinrecognition9722]

So people complaining this wasn't an Assassins creed but it all adds up this is the very beginning

[@XaloGunner]

While the DLC ending was a pretty big rug-pull (like you have mentioned), I thought Havi's reaction and the scenes of Baldr's death/revelation themselves were really well made and well acted.

[@MrSpawn229]

We need Basim, Wiliam Miles and Otso Berg to know what's happen furthermore

[@Marquis-Sade]

Why Otso?

[@NGMING420]

@@Marquis-Sade bcs Otso Berg is fucking based

[@Marquis-Sade]

@@NGMING420 Based what?

[@NamelessAddy]

The wise All "knowing" father didn't knew he would cause Ragnarok... 10/10 writing from Ubi

[@ELDIABLO_71]

In my opinion I thoroughly enjoyed the DLC tho I wish it was longer much longer

[@AccessAnimus]

Ha! All the more power to you! I wish the story was explained better honestly, but yeah, to balance the price it might have needed more content (but I wasn't a big fan of this type of content so....)

[@ELDIABLO_71]

@@AccessAnimus understandable I've always liked the isu side of AC And the First Civilisation technology especially in odyssey where we got to go to Atlantis Elysium and the underworld and even with origins having to get silica to activate isu tech in the Tombs

[@AccessAnimus]

@@ELDIABLO_71 Heh, yeah, the First Civ is (hopefully) always going to be part of AC ^^

[@ELDIABLO_71]

@@AccessAnimus I can hope so I have played since 3 and although the franchise has changed qnd has taken a turn I'm I'm for it because I feel if they stuck to the assassins and Templers the franchise would've died long ago

[@chrisj320ac3]

@@ELDIABLO_71 it wouldn't have died, it just wouldn't be as big. The turn was the equivalent of a musician going mainstream.

[@2000vascon]

Whats Ymir represents in the ISU world? I have a theory that ymir Was a great unified isu empire. And that’s odin Started a revolution or revolt that destroyed the empire. Then the empire was Fragmented in nine different kingdoms, like the Greco Roman isu (Jotunheim) the Northern African (muspelhein) Asgard, Svartalfheim and so on… what do you think acess the animus?

[@assassinscreedislife7636]

That sounds like a pretty cool idea…VERY interesting 🤔

[@lumineniananubis4161]

So what I learned from this awful DLC ending, is that, The salakar is the equivalent to mistletoe and or the apple of Eden, Odin started the great catastrophe, and he gave Juno the idea of the reincarnation method. And had no relevance to Eivor's story whatssoever, except giving them nightmares.

[@tailgate8840]

I like your interpitation for why Eivor spends her final days in Vinland to search for Baldurs coscniousnes, it seems plosible with the narrative threads that have been established in the past, i personally think we are going to get another mytholgical dlc that focuses on Ragnarök itself since Dawn of Ragnarök ends on a cliffhanger, so maybe Eivor going to Vinland is the ending of that Dlcs historical portion Maybe another reason forces Eivor to leave Ravensthorp in real history the vinings eventuallt got pushed out of England by the descendants of King Aelfred and since Aelfred founded the Templars maybe an early incarnation of the Templars attack Ravensthorpe and that forces Eivor and the Raven clan to flee to North America Just an hypotoses on what could happen anyways great video as always

[@erenjageralmuhed6029]

Alfred says to Eivor they will mate again as leaders

[@rubenskywalkerredlanternda5620]

@@erenjageralmuhed6029 meet

[@am4kar]

Eivor banished Odin from her consciousness at the Yggdrasil vault, he's not coming back that way.

[@assassinscreedislife7636]

Yeah. I hope that’s true, as much as I like Odin, especially after this dlc, I hope Eivor still beats him.

[@aurawolf2221]

I got the DLC on sale recently &.... I kinda find if you look at it from the Isu POV instead of the Norse one... it kind of? Fits into AC Lore in a way.

[@volpe7436]

My theory was that yes the catastrophe was garunteed to happen i just think odin basically just moved up it's time frame anywhere from months to years earlier then it was originally going to happen

[@AccessAnimus]

Yeah, the catastrophe was predicted and guaranteed to happen way before the events of Dawn of Ragnarok. The Isu had calculated it even before the events shown in the Asgard and Jotunheim arcs of Valhalla's main game, that's why they created the Seven Methods of Salvation ^^ Who knows if Odin sped up the process or if his course of action was always meant to be the reason why the catastrophe took place ^^

[@volpe7436]

@@AccessAnimus i personally believe it was an inevitable thing cause we do know it's a natural thing in the history cause ac3's solar flair is natural (unless they retcon juno caused it) but i would also say i think much like what basim does in the main game is he just sped up the process of the borialis to get them there faster and he did it on purpose and odin did similar possible from using baldur light might of caused the flair to go off prematurely (and if you account for travel time that would probably give them at most possibly a week the prepare before the flair hit

[@AccessAnimus]

@@volpe7436 Yep, the solar flare in the modern day of AC3 (Second Disaster) was a natural one, at least for what we know now and until they retcon it as you said 😛 As for Valhalla, it was mainly Basim's fault and intention - he was the one who cause the alteration of the Earth's magnetic field, and Layla's transference in the Yggdrasil machine (her touching the pedestal) is what stopped it. And yeah, if Odin sped up the process, that must have been no more than days, maybe weeks before the actual catastrophe (after all, all the various armies for this Isu war happening during the catastrophe are ready by the end of the events shown in the DLC)

[@pcarter1989]

Hey just a small nitpick here, but conscience is your inner sense of morality. Your *consciousness* is your mind/awareness/being/self/etc.

[@AccessAnimus]

Hey hey! Thanks for mentioning this, I always tend to mix those up, will do best in the future!

[@theatfshotmydog8224]

Bro, at this point, I don't even think Ubisoft even knows wtf they're doing or where they're going with this story...

[@Phurzt]

This has been true for half of the AC series.

[@assassinscreedislife7636]

I LOVED this dlc. It was just as long as they promised and worth EVERY penny imo. Though the ending was a little confusing, I felt like I understood it enough to have a basic understanding of what was happening with Surtr’s plan involving the Tower, the Salakar and Baldr. Your explanations just opened my eyes completely and made things a little cleaner, but as I said, I knew Surtr was trying to end the world and whatnot. Good videos overall despite the somewhat harsh criticisms about the story. Thanks again! Can’t wait for more of your content and more Valhalla! Whether it’s with Eivor or Odin, I’m all in!

[@davidemarchini8748]

Ciao Markuz, non so se mi risponderai mai visto che arrivo un po ritardo dall’uscita di questi video, ma ho giocato solo adesso questo dlc, visto che la prima volta che giocai valhalla DoR non era ancora uscito. Come la maggior parte delle persone che hanno giocato al seguente DLC, anche a me sono sorti molti dubbi riguardanti la trama, il cercare di interpretare la trama in chiave Isu ecc. ma cerco di farmene una ragione dato che le informazioni che abbiamo sono totalmente insufficienti per avere delle risposte chiare su tutto ciò che abbiamo visto, ma il dubbio che adesso mi sta martellando il cervello è legato a quando nel video dici che il ragnarok o meglio, la catastrofe di toba si scatena grazie ad Odino, che si è quello che il dlc ci mostra e che in chiave mitologica succede, ma in chiave Isu è chiaro che è impossibile dato che queste catastrofi hanno origine naturale e che vanno ben oltre le capacità degli isu/esseri umani di fermarla, quindi realmente, cosa diavolo ha combinato odino???

[@deadspeedgames]

If your below 300 power level don't start this quest enemies are hard to defeat at lower power levels

[@e.xcalibre]

I wonder if the device in the grand temple is the Salakar without the mythical veil in place? In essence they carry out the same purpose albeit the Salakar is shown to be portable within the mythical veil.

[@rohit_parashar]

You were right, you did surprise me

[@AccessAnimus]

I told you Rohit! I hope it was a positive surprise 👀

[@rohit_parashar]

@@AccessAnimus it definitely was, didn't think of it that way.

[@ibigfire]

How I felt at the end of it was confused and disappointed. I was expecting some sort of payoff that would be both epic feeling and make it all make sense. It wasn't any of that. Your videos helped, thank you very much as they bring me more joy and understanding than the recent games have, but I'm very frustrated with Ubisoft and what they've done with the Franchise while turning it into just a cash cow delivery system for them.

[@InHouseFilms]

So who were the z high elves ? That were wiped out

[@markatthepark97]

Could Juno come back? She was killed off in the comics.

[@rodrigojaredfloressantilla9271]

Exelente video

[@AccessAnimus]

Thank you so much Rodrigo!

[@snakethejake97]

Do you think you can tie the isu era locations as to where they are in the world, like in terms of all the world mythologies, cuz that would be cool.

[@nimbusnimbus.IV.]

He already has. Watch his previous videos

[@BlackHermit]

Fascinating. I haven't bought the DLC but the story is really interesting.

[@Marquis-Sade]

02:55 - His foot looks totally normal for a splitsecond. Like a human foot.

[@indiana_holmes]

Sounds like the DoR DLC created more questions than answers... Doesn't seem like it provided anything worthwhile to the overall stories of Eivor or Basim. Seems as though it didn't provide any real answers for the ISU either, just filler between the point of Fenrir's capture to the moment Odin and crew face Ragnarok.

[@ChrissieBear]

Since Salakar comes from Hindu, are Elves the Hindu Isu?

[@xehanorterra1122]

Sooooo is there going to be another expansions?

[@diptomansaha5818]

But how can the writers bring back Juno? She was already resurrected in Assassin’s Creed Uprising comics and was also killed by Charlotte in the modern day.

[@AccessAnimus]

I don't *expect* them to do that, because that would invalidate years of stating that she was dead after being killed in the comics, but with these vague info on the Salakar they could just say it's another piece of tech where she copied her conscience and here it is, ready to be downloaded in 2022 or 2023. But like I said, I still don't expect it to happen

[@lavin214]

Interesting theory on why evor goes to Vinland. Here's an interesting theory, Desmond's son is baldr.

[@ScoundrelGaming]

Now this is epic

[@AccessAnimus]

I love the trust without even watching the video 😆 Love you Dylan ❤️

[@ScoundrelGaming]

@@AccessAnimus I have no idea what happened in this DLC.

[@AccessAnimus]

@@ScoundrelGaming The story of the DLC is the friends we made along the way

[@ScoundrelGaming]

@@AccessAnimus I love that the most Important details are hidden in small Notes that are easily missed

[@AccessAnimus]

@@ScoundrelGaming Other than what we are showing in the video today, we also showed in the other ones that the entire motivation behind the main villain's arc and path is written in a note placed in the ruins of a house located in the middle of nowhere so 👍

[@BrychnyL]

I dont know. Me personally trying to complete the whole lore of assassin's creed into one big project for already like a 2 years. I liked Origins, I loved Odyssey, but Valhalla is for me completely trash. I hate that idea about mitology, random sh**s happening around without any explain and just nothing makes a sense. You must imagine everything like it's happening in Isu meaning and it's just trash. We don't have exact lore data... And this dlc just make it even worse (if it's possible). Anyway I love your videos and analysis, and for next time I would be happy if you add subtitles. Thanks a continue in what are you doing!

[@ryndaman2855]

again they did it again, AC Valhalla flaws always about plothole, the story always end cliffhanger, they better release Basim game ASAP i hope they show Basim meet William Miles in modern day

[@GameboySR]

The ending felt lacking, that's for sure. The story overall had horrible pacing, literally nothing substantial happened the whole game besides the first 15 minutes, and then suddenly there's the final fight. So it's not just that the mythological aspect didn't tell us much, the real/ISU aspect of the story told us nearly nothing. If anything, the story only left some questions and even then you have to know the lore and read into the story to realize there is something else besides "Ragnarok is happening soon". An overpriced mess of a DLC.

[@yugitrump435]

watch them explain Desmond's return lol

[@AccessAnimus]

Ha, Desmond will be busy checking the calculations for quite some times it seems..

[@MrBergste]

Yeah with those theories, that could turn out pretty damn well. However, I agree that Dawn of Ragnarok was not worth the $40 price tag, and that's coming from someone who loves the AC franchise and has played all games and expansions multiple times. It was a very half-assed expansion that felt empty and soulless. $40 really should have gotten us at least two expansions at that quality level.

[@ezio_k]

It was a huge deception to me.. For the post credit we need to travel to Hodda without explication.. anyway I am a big fan of the saga but it need to stop !!

[@jamessmith-hh9wz]

I enjoyed it but I gave up on trying to understand their logic behind its interpretation of it considering that surtr was supposed to kill freyr. And I’m still clinging to the idea that surtr is Ra. In summation I kinda checked out on trying to give deeper meaning to what I’ve seen and just simply enjoyed the story (what little cohesion it had) and the gameplay.

[@AccessAnimus]

Of course, everyone should be able to play and enjoy a game and its story at their pace, without having to look for deeper meanings ^^

[@MichaelMiller-tm2os]

As with most of Valhalla, the DLC was a turd sandwich. Also, if you look at the stats for acheivements, most people abandoned this DLC and did not finish. That said, I do not believe Basim will relive his own memories. I think somehow Layla is coming back, and that is why Eivor ends up in Canadia.

[@willowflowerchild]

I just finished the game and I didn’t get any of this ending. None of this. Just up to Surtr dying. No Odín. None of this other stuff. No letter. Just Surtr.

[@Marquis-Sade]

Didnt even touch this DLC. All this "mythological vail" stuff makes an already complicated story much more convoluted. And thats mostly because Ubi never shows whats behind the "vail". Just show the fans at the end what all that mythological BS is the real ISU counterpart.

[@ConnerKent08]

So we can blame Odin for the flare

[@AccessAnimus]

That we can, apparently 😄

[@xehanorterra1122]

I feel like he only accelerated the situation. The solar flare was already bound to happen

[@sygyzy0933]

Assassin's Creed is trying to become god of war

[@xxxplane12xxx6]

Strange dlc and it is not 35 hours longs

[@dr_prc]

the dlc was unrefined

[@kuro8271]

The whole plot is just a mess right now

[@Foxman_Noir]

This DLC put me off Assassin's Creed for the foreseeable future.

[@users10116]

In term of story this was the most boring story expansion in any ac games a ever played in my opinion did not elaborate the lores more just nothing felt like a watched a story of mid of war

[@coderserabutan]

yeah, bad writing

[@Mantiscular12]

The ragnarok dlc was pretty garbage to be honest. Nowhere good as tomb of the pharoahs.

[@vanjatanevski962]

Agreed

[@jonah1820]

Eivor has to be a guy otherwise female Eivor doesn’t sound right

[@collegebro85]

THIS is why Ashraf and Darby were let go and have made the far inferior AC games in the narrative sense! I don't trust any of this team to resolve whatever is going on now, although I do like the switch to Basim/Loki in regards to where things go from here. Love it or hate it, at least the Odyssey team gave us enjoyable and fleshed-out plots in their DLCs, and AC going forward will only prosper solely under them!!

[@aliteld0texe]

I wouldn't be so sure if I were you.

[@freddiehigham3951]

They actually made an effort The Fate of Atlantis DLC to tie it into the main story and introduce new lore. I mean the lore it introduces (regarding the staff) is integral to Valhalla and possibly future games. Similarly, the hidden blade DLC also furthered Kassandra’s story in a meaningful way. We’ve had 3 Valhalla DLCs and nothing has been done to further the plot of Valhalla!

[@indiana_holmes]

Darby had nothing to do with this DLC... He also had virtually nothing to do with Valhalla's other DLCs. Darby's influence was the base game, which was fantastic.

[@indiana_holmes]

@@freddiehigham3951 Valhalla MADE the staff integral to its story. Darby had to take the mess that Odyssey left and create a coherent story out of it. He did a fabulous job of that with Valhalla's base game. Odyssey had no plans for AC's future. Claiming that Odyssey's introduction of the Staff had anything to do with the quality of Valhalla is ridiculous.

[@freddiehigham3951]

@@indiana_holmes modern day wise, Odyssey clearly had plans for AC’s future. The introduction of the staff and the development of Layla’s character was very important for Valhalla. Also the game introduced Alethia who is seemingly going to be one of the antagonists going forward. Valhalla’s story makes no sense without Odyssey as context. My main point was that Odyssey’s DLCs had a lot of importance for the narrative of the game. If you wanted to fully engage with the story of Kassandra, you had to play the DLC. In Valhalla all 3 DLCs are essentially overpriced artificially elongated side quests which don’t add very much in a narrative sense.