Assetto Corsa 2 is Coming!... But there's an Issue

[@RogueBeatsARG]

AC Evo doesnt need Open World maps, they need good Mod implementation, focus on physics, gameplay, Career mode and stuff, and let the community port the GTA5 map into the game if they want

[@Carsforlife_]

Some people can’t afford pc’s. It does need open world maps.

[@darkmist977]

@@Carsforlife_ This studio isnt big enough to support a open world and close circuit tracks especially as everything is laserscanned, dont set yourself up for disappointment.

[@reececox19]

@@darkmist977Assetto Corsa literally has open world maps created by modders. As he said, make the base game good and let the modders do their thing

[@randomtuner8786]

​@@reececox19 I still think having an open world world is kind of odd for a sim racing title like this. I guess if they had some smaller cruising maps it would be cool otherwise it doesn't feel like it would fit the game

[@aj_2x170]

Ain’t no mods on console

[@existentialselkath1264]

One thing of note. None of these screenshots have raytracing or even SSR on the cars. Theres a serious attention to detail but not an overemphasis on graphical tech (also low requirements). Arguably what you want out of a sim like this. Raytraced reflectios would be nice in future though if this game is as long term as the OG, but not important.

[@theroach2204]

doubt they are going to top the original but i guess we are doing to have to wait.

[@ElusiveVibez1]

@@theroach2204it wasn't Kunos that made the game so awesome, sure it was good, but it was the modders/community, and surely they're making this game with them in mind

[@marzbee115]

They ditched ray traced reflections when competizione released and never implemented it years later I'm confident there will never be any ray tracing tech but as long as there are mod tools I'm fine with that.

[@existentialselkath1264]

@@marzbee115 that was specifically because of performance reasons. Unreal was already poorly suited for the game and didn't run very well anyway. It's raytracing implementation is also very heavy. As this is back to a simpler, lighter, in house engine I would expect it runs a lot better than UE4. There's the performance overhead for raytracing if they (or modders) ever decided to add it, but I wouldn't expect it for launch or anything.

[@G.Yam74]

Kunos showed us Raytraced Pictures of ACC by the release of the RTX Cards.... Lol never happens... never release....just advise. Also no real commet from Devlopers. Just a lieing advise. Be carefull what Kunos Promis

[@loporina]

From the interview I read, it seems like the devs are less happy about people ripping cars from say Forza and stuffing them into the game, but they also wanna support mods more, because they 100% understand how important that community is.

[@Avetho]

Exactly, they know that mods are what made the OG AC such a great game, and why so many of us got ACC, tried it, realized we couldn't mod it, and didn't like the game on UE4 anyways, and went back to the OG AC. So the devs are reviving and overhauling the original Kunos Engine to bring it up to modern standards, perhaps using what they learned by making ACC on UE4, and implementing ideas that come from that to make the Kunos Engine even better than it was back in 2014. The 2024 Kunos Engine will be a force to be reckoned with for sim racing, I bet.

[@thatfunnykekguy6377]

@@Avetho I doubt it will be that easy to port those mods into the new engine.

[@Avetho]

@@thatfunnykekguy6377 Oh for sure, the modders will have their work cut out for them, but at least it ought to be made easier for them if Kunos compiles a better modding pipeline document to package with the game. The original AC has that PDF file in the directory that you can look at for some insight into modding, I've gotten a lot of use out of it in making my magical supersonic Eldorado mod, especially for getting just enough to learn how to do the custom interior stuff, but it was hard. Thinking about it, I should really update my Redline Trans-Am mod by actually making the body true to the movie instead of bone stock, but I can't gather the motivation to open up Blender again, its too daunting for a first foray into graphic design :P

[@AirborneJoban]

nobody is porting stuff from forza lol everyone ports stuff from Gran turismo

[@Gumpinn]

​@@AirborneJobanGran turismo suck, its an arcade game, not a simulator no feeling at all 😂

[@navinpatterson9279]

Union island the actual island from the Assetto Corsa Mod got completely destroyed by Hurricane Beryl last monday. I am from that country please look into it and share 🙏

[@thespeedlife]

I will. Prayers to you!

[@Bruuhhhhhh]

Assetto corsa in a way has always been the garry's mod of the racing community, thus its prolonged success. As long as they don't try to change that drastically, itll be good

[@alienfac32]

modding can turn a 2 year game into a 10+ year game.

[@Stand-back-up]

@@alienfac32arma is an example

[@casgarr1mt466]

All I really want from this new game is better ui, better multiplayer and better crash physics I think that will improve the game by alot.

[@BlackPanthaa]

That all? 😁😂

[@casgarr1mt466]

@@BlackPanthaa I mean I like cm but it can be a absolute pain at times with something like the search feature I hope they can come up with a better ui then something like forza. I prob dont need to mention the way cars react to bumps in ac I prob have more time spent in the air than the ground in that game.

[@SHIZURAKU]

@@casgarr1mt466 I'd be happy to see some livery editor too. And an ability to have "your own car" in the game instead of having to download mods all the time to be able to join servers or taking the ones that server owner chose from the original packs. Also some multiplayer online racing, without needing to join a discord league lol.

[@casgarr1mt466]

@@SHIZURAKU Meh I perfer the photoshop approach it just works better for me.For the "your own car" thing Its possible but it would be laggy It should prob be a toggle thing bc it could mess up people who are already racing and dont have the car thats joining downloaded. Proper multiplayer should come with the new game as it would'nt make sense for devs to not implement them

[@kak8895]

​@@casgarr1mt466I agree, going over bumps in AC is terrible. Infact, the suspension model is so ass that most of the rally maps have to be flat to make the physics seem believable. It has a weird twitch with landing jumps and collisions (wall, car or object).

[@diegofkda199]

When it comes to these hardcore simulators, they shouldn't prioritize ground-breaking visuals 'cause these will run in triple monitor/VR setups where FPS is most important

[@nhlanhlamazibuko1569]

Cool

[@nhlanhlamazibuko1569]

Cool

[@marlibeshaj1069]

At least make these like an extreme graphics preset or something while making every other preset more sensible fidelity wise (or add a very low preset with the equivalent of asseto corsa 1 medium or low graphics)

[@diegofkda199]

@@marlibeshaj1069 Unfortunately, you cannot always scale things down; to this date it's pretty tough to run VR in ACC for this very reason. And I suspect that this has a lot to do with iRacing's success too.

[@existentialselkath1264]

The recommended requirements are extremely conservative. There's great attention to detail in the assets but the tech here isn't groundbreaking. You have nothing to worry about. That being said, a lot of stuff like higher shadow/texture resolutions, raytracing, LOD distances, etc can all be scaled or disabled with no negative impact on users that want lower settings.

[@marcusclarkson2657]

* Driveclub had the orange peel, the border between that and the gloss, morning dew, moisture buildup over time on a moist day, and streaks in the foggy condensation on the paint.

[@IBassGaming]

7:56 As a track creator I can almost guarantee you that we won't be able to use our old mods without a lot of conversion work, basically porting the models and other stuff (CSP stuff, etc) to a new engine. Assetto is pretty dated and scuffed. We also rely on CSP so much nowadays that you'd have to change up a lot of things to make it work in any other engine, assuming that the new engine even provides most of the csp functionality. Just to name a few random examples: Ambient Occlusion (which funnily enough is not present in any AC Evo screenshots), lighting of any kind, reflections, water shaders, shaders in general like TV screens, moving objects (sometimes), audio like ambient sound, a lot of optimization which we'd have to do from scratch like occlusion, treeFX since most of us switched to only relying on CSP trees, grassFX which we use for vegetation, etc... All of those things would need to get ported over or done from scratch for each modern mod. The same goes for modern car mods. Many mods nowadays rely on the extended physics in CSP and a lot of other features for functionality. I'm pretty sure we'll be able to port over most things, assuming modding is a thing, but it will take effort and time...

[@zalien_]

I can't understand why people want an open world map on this license; it's a racing game, with interesting physics. It's not Forza Horizon, but a (accessible) racing simulator. It has to focus on physics, cars models (on the technicals aspects and visuals) and racing circuits. A good career would be a huge plus.

[@PeperLuigi]

Because no sim racing game is open World and WE want to play an open World Map on a simracing game and not an arcade game

[@averagecarenjoyer]

​@@PeperLuigibeamng drive

[@PeperLuigi]

@@averagecarenjoyer yeah but only beamng no other

[@NikosM112]

@@averagecarenjoyer beamng is boring

[@NikosM112]

i hope ac evo will have car customization or else it's boring.

[@JBLanga]

Pantsman sure does loves his "Garages"

[@BlackPanthaa]

Hell yeah

[@nickduplaga507]

AC is annoying to mod because SLA suspension system (most common road cars) works differently than real life. Same thing with raised/drop knuckles, and even height that would affect geometry of SLA in real life but isn’t identical in AC. Then there are problems where original cars don’t have an adjustable proportioning valve for brake bias in AC which also gets annoying. Caster angle is non-adjustable after modding. Ackerman angle similar situation IRL you can get a customizable steering arm on the knuckle. Lacks non-linear spring rate adjustment, and even slow to fast damper actuation point. The cars drive ok in AC but especially the camber angles in-game become unrealistic and biassed to the outside tire grip to compensate for lack of true SLA geometry, and caster adjustments which often feels and looks weird.

[@simracingeverythin5832]

Just hoping they fix this in ACE. My dream is that they do it like in BeamNG, where most of the car is simulated by physics.

[@samgendler]

you're complaining about implementation deficiencies in a sim that is more than 10 years old in a thread about a new version of the game. Do you imagine that they aren't going to fix those things when every other competing title already has? What purpose do you suppose releasing a new version of a game serves, if not to correct shortcomings like those?

[@nickduplaga507]

@@samgendler You expect too much. AC1 has the biggest modding community in racing sims. Problem with AC1 on the mod side is if you had a suspension engineer start to mod they will be WTF is this, why can’t I do this, etc. It’s gamer friendly to mod, basically cheat physics to compensate the lack of realistic geometry. You will set up the AC1 car VERY different from a formula drift car. In example I can make a car IRL on slight compression gain positive camber a little, and on heavy compression gain negative camber a lot both on compression because there are two A arms with different angles and lengths IRL. But in AC1 I need to run negative outside and positive inside cambers for optimal grip because the camber gain will be linear. I basically need to pull of a Nascar camber setup to drift faster to compensate the lack of suspension geometry in-game. It’s not just tire deformation physics the whole camber angle is wrong, and even ingame ironically negative adjusts to positive the way it’s written. Same with gamers who just play: F1 I can’t adjust the knuckles steering arm in game to toe out less on turns so the inside wheel doesn’t scrub at faster speed turns. In game I can’t change the center differential torque split to make a AWD rally car drift easier on some tracks I’d have to change the car or modify other parts of the suspension to partially compensate. In game I can’t adjust the caster angle so if the track is faster I’m compensating it with camber and loosing inside tire grip, and also the rear feels floaty because lack of geometry I mentioned earlier. It’s mod friendly for gamers, but it’s VERY limited for engineers and IRL race car drivers. Will AC2 choose game engine simplicity with cheat physics to lessen processor requirement, or do what Beam NG did and require more processor computer spec, and then old mods won’t port over smoothly, so you either have the same game with a new price tag, or a new game with extra steps needed to transfer over car mods. Again you expect too much. If AC2 doesn’t fix suspension geometry to remove cheat physics it will likely divide its own community.

[@poo48]

​@@nickduplaga507you expect too little

[@nickduplaga507]

@@poo48 ACC already split the AC community for a cash grab. Forza, F1, and WRC are cash grabbing almost yearly, diving their community yearly, masked by a grind gameplay that the AC1 community would hate, so unless you are already an XBox / PS controller user I’m sure you won’t want a AC community split. AC1 already has a small community, and having it split would be similar of how WDTS released a new drift car pack, and people stopped playing WDTS altogether. Or North Course 3rd version and people played all version less. So there better be a good reason for upgrading into AC2 and for me personally that would only be an actually realistic suspension model, not 5 games later but next because if the community gets any more diluted then AC would need to become a xbox / ps controller game which I’m sure you don’t care because you probably play plenty of those to be all-right with this much development. AC2 with SOL weather, and CSP lights mods may as well be AC1 with a free DLC because it won’t sell in AC1 as it’s already a free mod. I haven’t yet seen anything amazing. Tire physics didn’t seem to work well in ACC because cars drifting enter ice mode magically, and they released ACC that way, so you expect too much. AC1 community migrated from RF2, so don’t be surprised when AC migrated into Beam NG if they fail making a significant improvement without downsides.

[@QBDLettuce]

When it comes to physics and accurate vehicle behavior, I trust the actual developers to get that stuff correct, far more than pretty much any mod. Don't get me wrong, love mods and the work modders do, and I have a bunch too, but it's no secret the accuracy of some of the vehicles is only as good as the detail put in, and many are lacking. So while yea I wouldn't mind modding support for AC2, I also want alot of the cars to be from the devs themselves, so that we won't necessarily need mods for them.

[@excite.winters]

Public mods really are lacking and for the most part garbage, but some private mods on AC are insanely good. I don't think people realize just how good AC1 physics is because all the extremely realistic mods are kept private. ACE will likely be the same, public mods will be mostly garbage and anything decent won't be shared outside private teams and groups.

[@gizmo-7q]

​@@excite.wintersYeah i have to agree... Paid mods on patreon and stuff are top notch in terms of physics and everything.... If you look hard enough there are also free mods on patreon which are actually consistently supported

[@excite.winters]

@@gizmo-7q Patreon mods aren't private, they're just behind a paywall. I mean private physics teams use and dont share with anyone😅

[@gizmo-7q]

@@excite.winters ahh good to know... Do they leak their mods sometimes?

[@excite.winters]

@@gizmo-7q not any that I know of, most are teams that are part of the irl pro / semi-pro scene and have mechanical engineers working on their physics.

[@idknils2920]

I think the garage is likely a Showroom like there is in the current AC

[@gogeardrives]

There was a garage view in the first game, it was just hard to find in the bad UI. You could view in a hanger, out door or whatever. It’s just a view mode for each car

[@speedhunter7156]

Ive read that AC Evo will be a brand new engine in general so probably not as easy of a transition as your hoping though if they do the what ATS/ETS2/RFactor 2 does for modding it will be better than AC in my opinion as in those games there is a steam workshop where its plug and play but somewhat limited and you can add custom stuff as you want and it can allow for console modding as well so everyone can play with everyone but one big thing is it needs to be playable on like xbox and PlayStation controllers out of the box and work well

[@ThatLoudLad]

Own engine = modding possibility

[@poo48]

steam workshop is one hell of a nightmare

[@speedhunter7156]

@@poo48 i haven't had problems

[@poo48]

@@speedhunter7156 dont forget that steam workshop files are prob harder to modify,(upon installation of mods, you cannot configure what to download and what not to) compared to a zip file where you can drag and drop the files you need

[@seco46]

The first Assetto corsa on PC had a "garage" where you could activate some functions (like open doors or move the wipers) in cars similar to Forzavista, the mode was called Showroom, this mode is also in Assetto Corsa Competizione by the way but few people know it.

[@ricardofrancisco7684]

Still exists and is a lot better now, it's called CM showroom. Most people know it exists but just don't use it.

[@MrGuiagui]

@@ricardofrancisco7684 As in the name, CM Showroom is not from AC. It comes from CM(Custom Manager)... And I think a lot of people use it

[@Suspect-driver]

10:21 IMO NFS shift 2 unleashed camera movement perfectly tackles the issue, but no developers even slightly mad studio themselves don’t do it anymore😢

[@KompadoodleLEL]

as a console player, i hope the mods list is similar to marketplace microsoft games have (i.e flight sim and minecraft) so we can play mods too, and if it is, itll make modders more money, and with a system like that kunos can get a cut too to make more money

[@SIMRIG412]

Not going to happen

[@excite.winters]

Will never happen, because then the developers become liable for copyright infringement and have to moderate anyone adding unlicensed cars and content to their game. If you just let people mod and share their mods via third-party platforms then you don't have those responsibilities. It basically becomes beam or carx then with "knock-off" versions of real cars.

[@Gearshifted526]

Probably wont happen because the owners of the game would have to check every mod individually and besides modders wouldn't be allowed to make car mods of brands the owners didn't talk with. The mods being unofficial is what makes mods great because of the freedom people have

[@KompadoodleLEL]

@@Gearshifted526 probably not but would be cool

[@Gearshifted526]

@@KompadoodleLEL i mean yeah i wish it was possible, would be cool for console players to enjoy the game at its fullest

[@DeejayJeanP]

Ain't no chance in hell it's releasing this year.

[@Moe_Shindeiru]

BMW M3 GTR update when?

[@nhlanhlamazibuko1569]

Cool

[@dreysensteelekneesofsteele2541]

nice

[@calebhardy8063]

Grand Turismo & Forza both working crazy on marketing.. AC just chilln but lowkey on top

[@stellors]

imagine an open world map and its also a online hub and u can create races and groups to race in actual real tracks, and the hub also has a race track to see who is actually good and have little places to do car meets and you can also share your setups.

[@TH3R3PVBL1C]

Of course we'd recommend Assetto Corsa 1. I just hope the chaser camera isn't fixed to the car like Gran Turismo and Competitzione.

[@olavofernandes7286]

You do know you can change the camera angle ingame setting in gran turismo 7

[@KompadoodleLEL]

@@olavofernandes7286its still fixed to the car, in forza chase camera has a little swivel when turning

[@nikolaig1]

I hated the first ac. Handling wad god awful

[@TH3R3PVBL1C]

@@olavofernandes7286 yes but look at ACs Kirby Cam....if they add that type to AC Evo it'll be good imo

[@lor7780]

@@nikolaig1the first AC is probably, most likely, positively, 100%, the best handling game of all time

[@Dawid_Balcerzak]

Why studios dont do games we all want? Call it "Just Cruisin" give us long autobahns, cool cars let us cruise and f. off lol, modders can do that ... Hopefully, TDUSC will cook ...

[@Alex-vz2jz]

NightRunners?

[@Dawid_Balcerzak]

Yeah, I just had a look and it looks worthy to be tested mate, but I've forgotten to mention consoles. It's too expensive these days to run a good performing PC ...

[@KompadoodleLEL]

forza exists for that

[@Dawid_Balcerzak]

Well, it does, but if you prefer PS, it doesn't, and, as far as FH4 was really cool, FH5, not so much. Before somebody says TC2/Motorfest yeah but TC2 car behaviour/handling is horrendous and Motorfest hmmm small map, but expansion is coming we will see how it goes, sooooo thats why TDUSC hopefully will be more like it, for example, even if it was only a DEMO that map is impressive ...

[@lor7780]

Tdusc lmao, comparing AC to that crap is an insult

[@guitarfumar]

Them wet roads are way too glossy for how sunny it is outside.

[@shredd5705]

Base AC1 had good physics and FFB, that's why I bought it. Mods were a bonus. But when I bought it in 2013, the mods weren't that great yet. Really good track/car mods started to appear years after it released. I don't hope for arcade sprinkles on top though. The first one didn't have any, and IMO some of the most realistic physics around. Sound will certainly be improved, ACC has great and much more detailed sound

[@Juni2CB]

2:05 May he rest in peace bro, I know that brother love well and i hope you found a good way to cope through it! god bless

[@nomeru_0]

7:58 People think porting is harder than it is. At the end of the day all assetto mods came from a simple fbx/obj file. As long as kuno's provides a 'kseditor' equivalent tool in the games root folder then everything will be very easy to bring over.

[@raptorjeezus2607]

Even if ACE is moddable there’s a good chance I will continue to do physics for AC. We don’t know if they implement component level suspension yet, like CSP added to AC

[@fillman86]

I feel they regretted making AC moddable, so they started down the hole of ACC with no mods... whether it's completely unmoddable, or it's too hard to mod is yet to be seen

[@carsonw722]

ACC had no mods because they were going for an esports title, had nothing to do with regretting making AC1 moddable. AC1 was just a sandbox.

[@fillman86]

@@carsonw722 see I bought that bs too, but they never really did push that hard into esports, even still to this day

[@carsonw722]

@@fillman86 yeah but it's an officially licensed game by multiple irl racing series. You can't allow mods with something like that. It doesn't need mods anyway, it does what it's meant to do and it does it well, which is GT racing.

[@lor7780]

ACC is licensed by SRO, which is an official racing series. Of course it is not going to be moddable, you even have a hard time making personal liveries. And yes esports are still a thing in Acc

[@fillman86]

@@lor7780 both AC and the new one also have licences. It really does seem like you're huffing the copium hard

[@citedcanvas85]

AC 1 is a tough act to beat when it comes to game play and handling physics. Handling better be matched or bettered coz thats what we want. Plus mods for console

[@Synclon]

Hell yeah.. I recently got my Full Sim Setup And Work hard for it, I can't wait to get my hands oh this game

[@zakur0978]

We got iRacing | AS Competizione for sim Assetto Corsa for Mod we need a good sim game. better online system without the need of external tool. better controller support. better career. etc

[@RATTMAN]

The only issue is that it isn’t out yet.

[@claireredfield7368]

Maybe Constipated. xD^^

[@ИванГеоргиев-н7м]

The stuff you said about the sounds camera and physics can all be moded to your liking... Ik its not really what you meant but you can get a drone camera even should you like it get even better physics for drift and non drift cars so as long as you have a dd...

[@MrSongib]

For me. 1. The simulation itself this include different type of track surface and cars handling. if this is broken or even worse than previous game, then there is no point in buying a new game. 3. Track Variation. (how accurate it is compare to the IRL) 2. Car collection. (how accurate it is compare to the IRL) 3. Graphic. (since we can mod it along the way in this case, assuming they didn't change their philosophy for moddable game engine) 4. Various Wheel supports, this is the important bits if they can make it easy to implement and support majority of the mainstream wheels then they good. 5. Navigation system, on AC we stuck using M&Kb to navigate the UI, if they can work around this without using our mouse and keyboard while we playing then it's the best QOL improvement. 6. Offline and Online support. Well this actually the main things for me personally, I got sick of most game became playable when online only. Majority of online only game, if they died we cant play the game anymore. like wtf, we pay this shite.

[@AffalterbachV8]

Hopefully they make modding less stressfull for beginners. I remember when I started modding AC and all that shi with CM, CSP and figuring out good settings and Lighting

[@castin5244]

Kunos literally gave us dev tools and modding templates day one with AC1. I see no reason why they wouldn't support mods again. especially considering mods are what got the game so popular and sell well enough for them to be able to fund a successor to the original.

[@mikiplgames2437]

Also a thing that not many People know and was a SECRET. There was a Secret Assetto Corsa Version only for Developers but it got leaked, in there they were doing campaign and also being able to EXIT the car and walk around it, open the doors and etc

[@excite.winters]

Are you sure you're not just confusing CM functionality? You can currently get in and out of cars and walk around in AC via functionality added in with CM. Never heard of a "secret dev version" being leaked.

[@Rockport1911]

I tried AC during Covid like many Others out there. It was fun for a while and the mod support is next level. My folder was about 150GB when I realized I didnt really like the handling of most cars, they feel like stiff plates, any kind of road imperfection or getting air freaks out the physics. So I got more interested in BeamNG and iam glad more and more AC maps like Shutoku get ported over there... But needless to say mod support is something AC2 absolutely needs, and yes a engine and graphics update for the content it ships with is nice.. But I feel like the AC1 community has made it so perfectly working for there needs a newer game wouldnt even sell that well. Everymods would have to get ported over for what great benefit?

[@gikrey]

Praying this game has some graphical improvements and hopefully at least ray traced reflections because that would make the mirrors more functional like real mirrors.

[@G.Yam74]

To be honestly content manager options need the Nasa to understand. Its so big, that it hurts sometime. You wanna play the game, or the options. We need an OutOfTheBox Feeling like AMS2.

[@one_slow_b0at]

As long as they make a good base for us to mod from, and keep the physics realistic and make them even better, I think we’ll all be happy. Also car modifications would amazing to have

[@venorando3672]

I also really hope we get somewhat realistic crash physics comparable to those in BeamNG drive (although perhaps not detailed to quite that extent, but still in a way where every crash looks unique and relatively realistic)! When you crash a Formula car, I really want to see a wheel or two barely hanging on the car, and when you crash GT cars, I really wanna see the front bumper scrunched up! Not just some lazy scratch graphics over the paint!

[@ThaCmaro]

We actually need more tools to create stunning Maps for Assetto Corsa. I feel like the tools that are widely known are able to produce tracks to drive on but not really to make great tracks. Im always wondering how these beautiful high-end map mods are made

[@TheDive25]

all I ask from AC Evo is everything the sim community has been asking for the last 10 years... yeah, good luck with that.. VR, Online ranked races.. perfect AI, perfect physics, the best FFB, the perfect UI. Mod support. Every track and car I ever dreamed of.. and even some I made up in my head.. Next gen graphics.. oh yes.. amazing Career mode! anything I missed?

[@TheDive25]

oh yes.. day night cycles, weather, rain.. driver swap. They better get a copy to Gamermuscle before they even think about releasing an early access version because James will rip it to shreads.. and I love that guy.. haha..

[@Rozie369]

tbh even if it doesn’t come without modability for the first 3-6 months wouldn’t surprise me nor would I find it a big deal… so long as they really really deliver on the base game, if the sounds are as good as the graphics, and there’s a decent amount of different content (maps + car) like togue, gp + historic circuits + city / simulated irl map styles, this game is going to be groundbreaking… Honestly I do hope there is an improvement to the physics, I will say, and it’s kinda sad in a way, the original AC still has top 3-5 physics in terms of how the car feels to drive of any sim… Yes the cars were a little too slidey and the steering felt a little delayed… but they really nailed the FFB and the connection of the car, and being able to feel and intuitively predict when the car was going to hit a slide, when you were going to understeeer etc.. and I still think it does those things better than any other sim I’ve tried like iracing, forza, gt7 etc… If they can dial just a few of those FFB settings and improve the breaking model a bit to replicate iracing (I think that’s about the only things iracing does good and it does it far superior to any sim) this game will truely be untouchable for a pure and enjoyable driving experience

[@Shumanator94]

As far as handling, i think AC1 js probably the best. It just makes sense and you can huske the car and work with it better than any game. And the camera is fine ubless toj meant 2rd person, in which case its a sim and more keen on drivers perspective. This was never meant to look and feel like an arcade game but custom shaders patch and content manager have options to make it more like that. As far as the new game, i just want better AI

[@mickeymouze5]

it might have some assetto corsa competitzione elements i would feel.

[@redcobra1246]

I really hope they go full simulation and not arcade. We already have forza horizon. We need a proper simulator. All simulators right now have some sort of issue. We need one to take the sim racing crown

[@MrKrampyHands]

Imo Assetto corsa is by far the best game for Sim driver/racers/Drifters there's a reason Dalara the company that makes race car chassis for indy and lmp uses assetto cos to test there ideas before even making a car is pretty freaking cool

[@Tboltross69]

I don't want them to pull old mods over from AC1, but I do want them to make it easier to mod the game itself. I feel like trying to make the old mods work on the new game would cause a lot of unnecessary frustration.

[@Shadow_YT267]

Games like skyrim have mods on consoles. Its pretty simple

[@ruwellsalatan7774]

The minimum and recommended pc specs of the game is really high, i guess the car models has more polygons than before for details and maps are bigger and weather is up to par with ilja and peter bose work I'm speculating that illja and peter and some other mod developers for cap has been on the development of Evo for some years now, the progress of Sol and csp rapidly evolved that that new gt7 rain looked like a joke (atleast for me) tyres bending, the chasiss also bends(i saw it somewhere i cant remember where tho) android auto, radio and even making your own code to control some stuff in the car is on the csp To sum it up even if the game is "not" modabble there will be a way to mod it, its the "greyzone" luxury modders have, kunos can just say "they're using a 3rd party software we dont have any control on that" if someone ask about the liscense on the mods. even if they try to find us for law suits it will be just a waste of time and expensive to execute because there's thousands of modders doing this stuff, so yeah give AC Evo some time and it'll be modabble by a new content manager and csp and if you didn't purchase the game and use crack you cant use csp therefore you cant use mods, win win for both kunos and modders

[@SkyAnthro]

I can't wait for No Hesi in AC EVO ^-^

[@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263]

Mods make shelf life.

[@ShonnDaylee]

When it comes to console (PS5) they REALLY should consider implementing PSVR2 support. The PS5 desperately needs another VR sim racer, and this game would be absolutely perfect for it.

[@TheSameGuySeenInPS4]

"Ok i'm happy, Hayundayo"

[@speedyblackman]

it would be cool to see a separate menu option called "add-ons" or something like that where console players can find some quality map mods, game modes, etc. something like the existing Content Manager but built-in to support console players too

[@jstones9872]

fact is ACC far surpasses both GT7 and Forza by a lot on console so there is no reasons to think they won't do the same with EVO. In fact we are looking forward to the console version of EVO !

[@blinkofaneye5558]

Only thing I care about really is that the physics/handling and FFB are at least as good as ac1 if not better. And it’s as moddable as ac1. Simply because AC1 is the best handling/feeling sim out of them all.

[@ThePashaplaybug]

Speaking of Competizione I hope the driving model from it moves to AC Evo. Because it is so much better in ACC.

[@stenovitz]

The "Evo" should just stand for "Evolution of AC", i.e. improved AI, possibility for rolling starts, more race venue setup feasibilities, featers as latest payable CM provides. The graphics engine needs no improvement whatsoever - I have all eyecandy in my old Quest 2, even with all the nice SOL/Pure PP filters available and so on. just the core sim engine needs an overhaul. And ofcourse just as easy feasibility for the modding community.

[@bailey33148]

As a day one AC fan (on xbox unfortunately but it's still better than forza) I really hope that the base car and track list is better, hopefully some more jdm legends (subaru preferred as my pfp woukd show) more tracks I'm familiar with, the original was a great game and has pushed me onto going to trackdays and given me the knowledge and skills to handle a car well enough, I hold it close to my heart and I will forever have it in my library, hope this new one comes out as a step above that.

[@zekeaffy9647]

DCT, Sequential Dogbox, Manual, Automated Manual, transmissions need to be a thing, Im tired of the the current options being H shifter, Sequential, Automatic but with no modes like Sport, Corsa, Launch Control, all you can have in drive modes. Not going to a menu to change it, but on command (pressing a single button) similar to Beamng, I love it.

[@nismo97]

I'm hoping script mods will remain a thing for AC Evo. Gamepad support on sims still is pretty lackluster, the Gamepad FX scripts for AC are a godsend for people who don't play the game on a wheel.

[@mikeonawave]

I really hope they linked with the Content Manager guys and integrated some of it's features.

[@JayZX14]

i feel like the game will launch The 19th of december, 10 years exactly after the launch of the first one on steam

[@myztazynizta]

If it can't be as flexibly modded AND if it doesn't look as good or better than the popular graphics mods from day one, it's not going to sell the AC1 user base. They might focus primarily on the console audience for the first 3 years and then open up the game to more modding to get more sales from PC over the long term.

[@BmikroB]

Back then before any (decent) camera mods existed that original Assetto Corsa camera was the thing that made me drop it, like completely. I just couldn't stand it, and despite having excellent car mods the game just felt unplayable to me, to the point where I just gave up & uninstalled it entirely. Then the CSP mod came to be, and lotsa track mods started appearing (along with some truly top tier high quality car mods), but I missed all of that simply because by the time I already found myself having great driving & comfortable camera in AC Competizione.

[@volt_8339]

ac detail with a forza sized car list would go crazy

[@everythinggaming7938]

the original ac had a garage when you inspect the car

[@erdemeebilgee3584]

It just needs: proper modding support, better AI, better physics and maybe some updates to the tracks and boom a good game.

[@the_stig_90]

@ 6:15 which button box is that?

[@KeiserHound]

Just give us an amazing engine and a beautiful rendering solution. Build us a Sand box, let us build what we want.

[@vcdrny]

Never played the original one since I'm not part of the PC playing master race. But I always hear good things about it. If it comes to PS5. Their focus should be on GT7. If they can give a similar experience and give us things we want from GT7, that PD is not giving us. They will steal the market.

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

Bro, you're out of your mind, if they make Assetto Corsa Evo more ARCADEY?! Check out what happened to Project Cars when they did that. All Assetto Corsa Evo needs is per-tire grip modeling and that's it, they don't need to touch the handling system at all other than that and they have a banger of game in their hands.

[@MoptopTofer]

Disagree. There is a lot they could improve 10 years after the original AC physics wise. Suspension in the original AC, while good, is very much dated compared to newer sims out there. Tire models have taken a huge leap as well (although which one is the best is a different debate entirely). Rain could also be improved. CSP's version is nice but it has nothing on the likes of iRacing's Tempest system. They could also take a look at having more detailed track evolution like Automobilista 2, where gravel from off tracks or oil from crashes/mechanical failures can affect track grip.

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

@@MoptopTofer I can't believe you want Assetto Corsa Evo to be more arcadey than the original Assetto Corsa.

[@MoptopTofer]

@@TiagoMorbusSa LMAO now you're just putting words in my mouth. When did I say that? I said they could do a lot to make it more of a sim.

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

@@MoptopTofer you literally said "disagree"

[@MoptopTofer]

@@TiagoMorbusSa I disagreed with the sentiment that they don't need to change much in this next game, not that they should keep it a sim. It should 100% stay a pure sim. You read one word and ignored everything else, which shows me your reading comprehension is lacking.

[@easydayez]

I hope the controller support is better tbh

[@elliswtf]

the garages really remind me of gran turismo!!

[@nikolaig1]

I want massive customization lots of tracks, and tons of cars in game.

[@Solo_Wing_Rusty-Yo_Buddy]

If we can't an "open world map" at least put in some more street circuits, good touge tracks, maybe a hill climb, or gives the tools to build our own tracks.

[@TACJHON_]

They just need a workshop for console to enjoy

[@lagartopunkarra]

I'm not interested in sim racing games, but a new Assetto Corsa, for people that like that genre, is good news. Hopefully the modding in this games reaches the first game.

[@msum23]

AC isn't going to suddenly die because of AC2... we don't need maps ported instantly. I'm actually looking forward to not having so much choice paralysis and hopefully using the already good content they give us.

[@1InVader1]

Yah if we could finally get a simulator with proper campaign/career mode, that would be cool. Better yet, make it a street racing sim, with car tuning simulated. Completely unfeasible, but one can dream.

[@ImmenseRacer776]

i wish there were some games today that would just add all of the aussie cars like all of the aussie fords and all the holdens, just not fair us aussie people mate

[@williamhefner3804]

I basically would want the game to basically be ACC in terms of graphics and handling, but have open world to some extent, and a large variety of cars

[@users4007]

i hope the new game get the trento bondone map, it is one of the most fun and challenging tracks in ac

[@thatonedooofus]

It needs a snow runner/beamng style mod menu for console and pc

[@hayerenders4576]

That bit with the Porsche on the wet road was that on a modded Test Drive Unlimited?? Looked so wrong

[@kingofpassionplusyt]

Plus the first had so much sweat 💦 for Phonk music then A C 2 Evo.

[@Silver_Official.]

No hesi on the new game would look insane!

[@MrGuiagui]

What is the hype for this? Cause all those cars are too unrealistic, it's not very fun after an hour of looking the same scenery, there's nothing to improve. And like I said all the cars are so unrealistic to the point that every car feels like the same car

[@AkuBukanAim9]

Me personally am not a mod guy and have never got into that kinda thing but I dont think it’s that big of a deal if it doesn’t have those graphics mods AC does because it already looks good and the reason those exist is because AC didn’t have the best graphics also a bit of a a hot take but no hesi and mods like that should stay as mods we don’t need another open world racing game since AC has always been about realism and driving a 500 hp Lmp1 car into a building on public roads goes against that as a sim

[@Skaloody]

9:30 fr though ESPECIALLY the old f1 cars oof... That lotus 72D sound is not my cosworth DFV the lotus 98T sounds way too unagressive like the old f1 turbos and the 312T sounds more like it was from an arcade game from the 90's

[@thechozenfew1273]

i heard that base game is going to have a free roam/ no hesi mode which is the most played mod on assestto corsa 1 - if thats the case it will be an instant hit to bring your homies and biches to come cut thru traffic

[@pandanuv6818]

they can implement mods on ps and xbox by making "approved" mods availbe to downlaod as free dlcs

[@Norinot1]

The thing I do not want to see from Evo is the "Arcade sprinkle" on top, the thing that bothers me a lot as a sim racer is that there is literally zero games on the market that give you competitive racing with meaningful and fun progression apart from iRacing, and the issue is that I do not like the handling model of iRacing and their pricing model, it sucks and its greedy and aids, if I could have a wish I'd just say make Assetto Crosa as it was, but have that level of multiplayer capabilities as iRacing, and then I'm all good, their ACC handling model is the best racing simulation handling physics for that specific car category out there right now, they really did turn it around and I hope they go towards this direction, we have countless arcade race games and almost nobody likes to do nice sims, so I just hope they they deliver.

[@dashamorgan484]

Awesome man

[@nhlanhlamazibuko1569]

Cool

[@_Vino.]

They need fix the basics of AC1: A better UI - AC default menus without Content Manager feels completely unfinished and raw - not ideal. Easier online mode: better ways to host and create your own Lobby - just like any other racing game does Release a full game with the basics functions: rain, dynamic weather, night/day or even snow would be pretty good. Without needing mods to do it.