Astana's new bike! X-LAB AD hands-on: Chinese bikes in the World Tour!

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China Cycling

China Cycling

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@prowlertf34
@prowlertf34 Күн бұрын
I can't speak for everyone, but $7,100 for a world tour spec bike is off the damn chain, it just proves how bad everyone is getting ripped the F@ck off! They need to come to the US to put these other dudes out of business.
@psxtuneservice
@psxtuneservice Күн бұрын
And that is still overpriced...half that again.
@DavesNot.Here.420
@DavesNot.Here.420 Күн бұрын
We have stricter labor laws here, American workers would never work that cheap.
@prowlertf34
@prowlertf34 Күн бұрын
@@DavesNot.Here.420 Then how do the big name brands have their bike's made in China, probably in the same factory then shipped over here to be marked up 10,000 X?
@MediaProConcept
@MediaProConcept Күн бұрын
$7000 is still a rip off
@georgyj111111
@georgyj111111 Күн бұрын
100% tarifs......
@johnnyboy4711
@johnnyboy4711 Күн бұрын
i think there might have been chinese bikes in WT all along
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling Күн бұрын
Hahahaha, someone really needs to define "Chinese bike" I guess....
@galenkehler
@galenkehler Күн бұрын
Here's a challenge I haven't worked out for myself yet: when was the last TdF won by a bike not made by a brand that uses Chinese manufacturing for the frames My guess is you'd have to go back to Pantani 😂
@undefined624
@undefined624 Күн бұрын
I freaking love your dedication and genuineness. Big love and respect.
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling Күн бұрын
I think this bike will be like the Meridas and the Uno-X bikes at the Tour de France... they're good value, but you can't get them in every country. Which I guess means "Which is the cheapest bike at the Tour de France?" will depend on which country you're living in...
@matthewbenger8355
@matthewbenger8355 Күн бұрын
Merida is available in most countries?
@paddleshift3602
@paddleshift3602 Күн бұрын
@@matthewbenger8355not in the USA because they have the same owner as specialized and don’t want to directly compete
@MacMasore
@MacMasore Күн бұрын
Do you know what tire width the other pro-tour frame can take? (Wondering for races like Roubaix)
@MacMasore
@MacMasore Күн бұрын
@@paddleshift3602Merida bought 49% of Specialized to be exact 😅
@Maharshi.Ganguly
@Maharshi.Ganguly 17 сағат бұрын
Uno X uses Dare bikes right?
@RideWithGerben
@RideWithGerben 14 сағат бұрын
Love this channel. New bike? No invite, nah mans just goes to the source. Perfect!
@marcelliu3422
@marcelliu3422 Күн бұрын
And again a great info video!!! I liked te Nero interview a lot. Carry on ride on Joe
@neilwheel
@neilwheel Күн бұрын
I met the XDS people back in 2008 at Friedrichshafen. We chatted on a eurobike-organised bus trip to a test zone across the German border in Austria. They told me about the numbers they produce in other sports segments, making stuff like carbon tennis rackets & ski poles, etc. A mega company, but unknown at the time.
@czeckson74
@czeckson74 Күн бұрын
28mm tires -> good luck for Roubaix
@DIADVERMIN
@DIADVERMIN Күн бұрын
I dit it! easy!
@rogersliu1200
@rogersliu1200 19 сағат бұрын
backthen was racing 23/25 and if you look at the total time of the race, which the record has not been broken in the 30c era
@ilovelimpfries
@ilovelimpfries Күн бұрын
Thankfully XDS is being sold officially here in my country. Looking forward for the AD9 test ride.
@jonphotos8631
@jonphotos8631 19 сағат бұрын
What country please
@nickwaples
@nickwaples 11 сағат бұрын
Bait 🤫
@dopeone700
@dopeone700 Күн бұрын
Thank you for your informative videos. This is what the world needs now!
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling 21 сағат бұрын
You're welcome!
@marcosseijo6609
@marcosseijo6609 17 сағат бұрын
Best content!! Please try them all, the climbing and the all around
@jamescourier1545
@jamescourier1545 14 сағат бұрын
How many of the big names are already made in china???
@u.e.u.e.
@u.e.u.e. Сағат бұрын
Looks good! 🤩 To your last question, if it will be a step up or down: neither of that - pros will always get what they need, as long the sponsor's logo is on it! 😉 If necessary, a sponsor will construct a competitor's product under the own name. 😂
@invisiblescout6335
@invisiblescout6335 Күн бұрын
How difficult would it be for one from europe to get their hands on a frame? Tyre clearance also not great at the back?
@the.communist
@the.communist Күн бұрын
Maybe on aliexpress in the future
@schultzy1971
@schultzy1971 Күн бұрын
Nice bike(s). XDS is big and good. I am interested in the XC Fully which I saw over your head of the bike shop sales desk :-). What's happening China is amazing on so many levels.
@the.communist
@the.communist Күн бұрын
China is the future
@glennicol1361
@glennicol1361 Күн бұрын
We currently have a shop in Malaysia that is about to sell the Xlab bikes and Bross....
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling Күн бұрын
Thats cool!
@skyjuice88
@skyjuice88 Күн бұрын
Which shop in Malaysia is that?
@glennicol1361
@glennicol1361 Күн бұрын
Max Bikes in Denai Alam​@@skyjuice88
@HengChooChian
@HengChooChian 23 сағат бұрын
Would love to visit and have a review in Malaysian perspective. Which shop is that?
@glennicol1361
@glennicol1361 22 сағат бұрын
@@HengChooChian Max Bikes in Denai Alam
@alsbikeshed
@alsbikeshed Күн бұрын
Winspace bikes and wheels were ridden in a grand tour last year and will be at The Tour this year 👍🏻🙋‍♀️. The performance and reliability feedback for any brand ridden at these levels will be huge.
@MacMasore
@MacMasore Күн бұрын
By who?
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling Күн бұрын
He means the women's Vuelta and the women's tour. He's not wrong. But as a test of equipment, the men's grand tours are obviously harder. Higher weights, higher powers, higher speeds,.more mileage, etc.
@DDai-qd8uk
@DDai-qd8uk 20 сағат бұрын
Ridden by a bunch of girls, yeah that means nothing
@alsbikeshed
@alsbikeshed 16 сағат бұрын
@@MacMasore Winspace Pro Women team. They started early last year with the Spring Classics, including Paris Roubaix 😎
@dbgrand
@dbgrand Күн бұрын
Willier had the best paintjob in WT. It's sad they're gone now. I would like to ride this RS9 in some nice paint job at around 6.5 kg for 4k USD. Can I go back with a bike to EU and not pay taxes for the bike? Anyone know that?
@the.communist
@the.communist Күн бұрын
If you claim youre travelling with your own bike (not new purchase) i dont see why you would need to pay tax
@pennyblue6372
@pennyblue6372 12 сағат бұрын
wilier is with fdj
@dbgrand
@dbgrand 11 сағат бұрын
@pennyblue6372 good to hear!
@jeanmorali4190
@jeanmorali4190 Күн бұрын
7000 $ With VAT or not ? For UE . The Van Rysel Team AG2R Decathlon = 9000 $ with VAT
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling 21 сағат бұрын
With local sales tax.
@nickquirkeart3287
@nickquirkeart3287 6 сағат бұрын
Do they sell the frame set?
@melvinpazmino824
@melvinpazmino824 Күн бұрын
Joe, do you think the AD9 will have a fork able to accommodate 30mm or 32mm tires? The competing tour brands have moved in that direction. What do you think?
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling 21 сағат бұрын
I think the forks will be the same... so probably both officially 28mm clearance, but a 30mm will probably squeeze in.
@ResearchFirst-z7j
@ResearchFirst-z7j 23 сағат бұрын
Thanks Joe, I wonder whether it is possible to purchase just the frame. Does anybody know the geometry?
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling 21 сағат бұрын
They do sell framesets here in China. Can only see the geometry on Chinese websites so far...
@ResearchFirst-z7j
@ResearchFirst-z7j 20 сағат бұрын
@@ChinaCycling Thanks Joe
@andrewc662
@andrewc662 Күн бұрын
Any idea which regions this will be available. I live in Costa Rica and XDS is sold here, but will the X-Lab stuff be sold too?
@the.communist
@the.communist Күн бұрын
Time will tell
@nofinglimit
@nofinglimit 23 сағат бұрын
If I am in the US, how can even start to think about getting one of these? The climbing frame in particular. Thanks!
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling 21 сағат бұрын
Really not easy. Take a holiday to China and bring one back with you. ;)
@邢江南-m2k
@邢江南-m2k 7 сағат бұрын
take a trip to those 144hrs visa-free cities in China, XDS stores are literally everywhere... build a bike, ride and travel around the city for a day, go back to the store and ask them to disassemble and pack your bike, flight back with your box, done. easy and happy weekend, only thing you need is some courage and two-way tickets.
@nofinglimit
@nofinglimit 42 минут бұрын
@@邢江南-m2k OK, maybe not so bad then, but could you tell me what the RT9 frame costs in China in the case that I did fly there to do this? Thanks!
@sebastianm2381
@sebastianm2381 16 сағат бұрын
Even Open Mold frames have been ridden in the TdF. I’m pretty sure Cadel Evans rode an open mold TT frame in his Lotto Team days. They were on Ridley bikes back then and Ridley simply didn’t have their Dean TT frame in the lineup yet. So they took an open mold frame and put their logo on it and Cadel and the team rode it. Not sure how successful they were. I’d have to look that up.
@nochancecw
@nochancecw Күн бұрын
I cant wait to see the bike price video this year from gcn and have these guys price vs the others.
@iancarson8614
@iancarson8614 Күн бұрын
not available through you, panda Podium?
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling 21 сағат бұрын
Nope. Would be nice if it was though!
@jonphotos8631
@jonphotos8631 19 сағат бұрын
@@ChinaCyclingcan u make this happen? What’s the barrier?
@Onigure
@Onigure 8 сағат бұрын
​@@jonphotos8631 Joe explained that XDS don't want to trouble their OEM customers by selling a product that competes with theirs. XDS makes is primarily a frame manufacturer.
@grzegorzpolonski
@grzegorzpolonski 14 сағат бұрын
Do You experianced any "premium" cracked frames from China. Canyon is famous of it. What about 90kg rider, would they be strong enough?
@znalniaskas
@znalniaskas Күн бұрын
Trying to get someone legit to sell them to Europe seems a bit hard, otherwise I'd get the RS9 in a heartbeat. RS9 with Ultegra is really cheap for the price and great and they offer great paintjobs too. Would love to see you ride the RS9.
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling Күн бұрын
Take a holiday to China, enjoy the food, enjoy the riding, go home with an RS9... ;) ;)
@michaelmechex
@michaelmechex Күн бұрын
If you're in Europe I'd consider Cube bikes instead. They make some nice bikes, and prices are somehow quite similar to these.
@znalniaskas
@znalniaskas Күн бұрын
@@michaelmechex yeah, I do have local cube stores. That said, those new wheels with the hidden valves on their top bikes look like a pain in the ass to maintain or fix after a puncture. Cube is really putting up the fight against DTC companies in Europe.
@the.communist
@the.communist Күн бұрын
Maybe theyll sell it on aliexpress, its more money for tge company
@the.communist
@the.communist Күн бұрын
@@znalniaskas if they were clever they would do DTC as well
@MacMasore
@MacMasore Күн бұрын
It’s not a bad bike albeit just a bit behind in the tire department. They should do a bike like this but with 30-32mm for races like Roubaix. Willier still has the better colorways imo
@jonphotos8631
@jonphotos8631 Күн бұрын
Joe i want to build up on of these aero bikes super light sell them on PP please!
@TheChindoboi
@TheChindoboi 16 сағат бұрын
Would love to see you review the xlab rs8 all rounder
@jasoneiserich8638
@jasoneiserich8638 Күн бұрын
Cool stuff, Joe! Will I see you again at Sea Otter this April?
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling 21 сағат бұрын
Good question... I do like it over there... see if I can justify the trip...
@jasoneiserich8638
@jasoneiserich8638 21 сағат бұрын
@ Hope you can make it/justify it! Welcome to stay at my home in the SF bay area before or after if you like and join me on some rides.
@donasbdva
@donasbdva 16 сағат бұрын
Why are they running vision wheels and not another Chinese good value wheelset? They must be at least similar in performance
@1mesonyx
@1mesonyx Күн бұрын
The price for this spec and weight seems insane. The way the seatpost connects with the frame does not look so good ...
@the.communist
@the.communist Күн бұрын
They connect the way all current bikes do
@1mesonyx
@1mesonyx Күн бұрын
@the.communist I've to disagree. The top tube does not extend like that behind on most bikes with aero seatpost l. The locking wedge is in front
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling Күн бұрын
Yeah, does look a bit like it was designed by two separate people then put together
@jonphotos8631
@jonphotos8631 19 сағат бұрын
The wedge in the front is better because u don’t mud in the bolt holes.
@flooooooo0686
@flooooooo0686 Күн бұрын
Nice paint job!
@Speedy.V
@Speedy.V Күн бұрын
I want to see the full suspension xc mountain bike
@joaovictorgoncalves6217
@joaovictorgoncalves6217 Күн бұрын
Looks like the old venge, very nice bike
@ranjithpowell6791
@ranjithpowell6791 Күн бұрын
Yes please I do want to see you ride
@olo398
@olo398 Күн бұрын
XLAB PP when?
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling 21 сағат бұрын
I'd like to...
@jonphotos8631
@jonphotos8631 19 сағат бұрын
We believe in u Jo! Who do we need to email to make it happen?
@bleigh6562
@bleigh6562 Күн бұрын
Definitely ride it dude 😎
@ArteUltra1195
@ArteUltra1195 13 сағат бұрын
Not feeling the frame and especially the spacer/stem design, but 3000$ for that spec is insane
@andrewwalsh4662
@andrewwalsh4662 21 сағат бұрын
X-LAB is not selling it to the U.S. YET. Wait until they get a full season with Astana (and hopefully some W's) under their belt. Then they will look to play with the big boys in the west and I'm sure they will upsell once they have a story to tell.
@jw3638
@jw3638 50 минут бұрын
Wish they had 30mm clearance
@Simon-Simon-Simon
@Simon-Simon-Simon 16 сағат бұрын
Don't need the vision wheels . China wheels and ultegra and Astana paint would be sweet
@tongotongo3143
@tongotongo3143 Күн бұрын
What’s going to happen with Wilier bikes, such a nice charming bikes with strong pedigree…
@the.communist
@the.communist Күн бұрын
Nothing, theyll carry on selling at those high up prices
@andrewmurgatroyd9214
@andrewmurgatroyd9214 Күн бұрын
They won't be allowed to sell it in the West unless they were to up the price and add big taxes
@the.communist
@the.communist Күн бұрын
Aliexpress
@andrewmurgatroyd9214
@andrewmurgatroyd9214 Күн бұрын
@the.communist na too expensive for ali
@RideRoadBetter
@RideRoadBetter 20 сағат бұрын
sounds like I need a trip to China 😛
@TheCyclesport
@TheCyclesport Күн бұрын
It is a way to dig deep and get on-the-street updates on Astana's future bikes, such as Joe & China Cycling. GO JOE
@renzhilin2775
@renzhilin2775 22 сағат бұрын
I heard XDS dealers are selling AD for parts as we speak; Vision wheels and Dura ace group sets are going to flood the Chinese second hand market. The dealers are smart, they can make a profit by justing selling the group set and vision wheels, as for the frame, honestly no one cares.
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling 21 сағат бұрын
Maybe... but if you look at the POLYGON bikes from the channel a few months ago, the same thing. a very cheap bike with Dura Ace. You could do the same thing with that.
@billscott6819
@billscott6819 15 сағат бұрын
brutal wtf they should show the good stuff not the shit lab
@Archi2g
@Archi2g Күн бұрын
Wouldbuy/10. Looks sick.
@the.communist
@the.communist Күн бұрын
Maybe theyll appear on aliexpress
@YisusBike_engineer
@YisusBike_engineer Күн бұрын
Many Chinese factories made better frames, winspace, seka, etc.
@JFomo
@JFomo Күн бұрын
I want to see the giant Chinese guy who is able to ride that large bike 😅
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling 21 сағат бұрын
1.4 billion people, some of them are TALL.
@billscott6819
@billscott6819 15 сағат бұрын
Reduce the range, save money, focus on AD9 aero bike. Spare everyone the bullshit. It will help.
@johnblogs5732
@johnblogs5732 19 сағат бұрын
🎉
@rexlybrand6688
@rexlybrand6688 19 сағат бұрын
Can I just buy this bike from you with a little markup?
@U.s.e.r.3493
@U.s.e.r.3493 Күн бұрын
$3k, bargain! Worth a short flight to China haha
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling 21 сағат бұрын
IKR, fly to china, but one, take it back. Get a "free" holiday. :)
@U.s.e.r.3493
@U.s.e.r.3493 21 сағат бұрын
@ChinaCycling actually tempting as airfares aren't that bad!
@metatron007
@metatron007 13 сағат бұрын
Nothing new same old same old...
@markhall6026
@markhall6026 Күн бұрын
100 grams worth of spacers
@blahaj___
@blahaj___ Күн бұрын
wish i lived in china
@znalniaskas
@znalniaskas Күн бұрын
When it comes to bikes, yes...
@glennicol1361
@glennicol1361 Күн бұрын
China is great! Especially Shanghai!
@DavesNot.Here.420
@DavesNot.Here.420 Күн бұрын
Then you could work making these bikes the majority of your time while you struggle to pay rent.
@rc8rider
@rc8rider Күн бұрын
​@@DavesNot.Here.420 wow! Sounds like China is just like the rest of the planet! Except for the USA: you need three jobs in the USA to afford your rent...
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling Күн бұрын
Just come here for a holiday and buy the bike you want. ;)
@ozgurinsan
@ozgurinsan 18 сағат бұрын
It looks kinda cheap.
@adamcoppock5018
@adamcoppock5018 8 сағат бұрын
Someone from the west should setup a branding agency in China. 😅
@harrywang2566
@harrywang2566 Күн бұрын
Technically mainland China😂
@thejeffinvade
@thejeffinvade Күн бұрын
$3000 for 105 di2?😂
@the.communist
@the.communist Күн бұрын
Cheap or expensive?
@billscott6819
@billscott6819 15 сағат бұрын
Seems wicked sketchy tbh
@adchiu8166
@adchiu8166 Күн бұрын
@cyclingloversjapan3615
@cyclingloversjapan3615 17 сағат бұрын
lol ❤
@lee1210mk2
@lee1210mk2 20 сағат бұрын
Looks like the same style all over again, all these new bikes look the same.
@songjoseph3314
@songjoseph3314 19 сағат бұрын
seka is a great chinese brand, winspace is very good. but XDS is not. xds is like tata group in china, they selling cheap quality bikes. their bike have no performance to talk about. thanks to road cycling got popular in last couple years in china. XDS got a lots of profile from it. not every chinese people can afford a trek or specialized bike and in fact, most of people dont know much about it. here comes xds, they sell something looks similar and cheap price. thats why they selling well. would you ever think Tata makes good cars? probably not, so what made you think XDS makes good bikes? this channel is sponsered by xds. this year probably is the last year for astana race in world tours, Kazakhstan govt pulls out the sponsership. i still dont think xds made a good choice for it(35m euro a year? thats insane).
@ChinaCycling
@ChinaCycling 17 сағат бұрын
Bro, I've been in China for 15 years. You can call XDS Tata, but you could also call them BYD or Geely. RT9 is lighter than any bike from Seka or Wins... I'm not saying XDS are the best in China, but so many Chinese cyclists look down on them just because they're cheap. Cheap doesn't always mean bad.
@stinkybeam
@stinkybeam 16 сағат бұрын
that X-LAB logo is so ugly🤣
@the.communist
@the.communist Күн бұрын
I dislike aero bikes
@sativagirl1885
@sativagirl1885 10 сағат бұрын
According to the NIST.gov calculator, $3000 carbon fiber bike tariff is $3000, resulting in $6,000 of tax revenue income for His Majesty the Truey Jewey Messiah.
@ChinCycling
@ChinCycling Күн бұрын
That’s a crazy value, they would sell a lot if they came to the west but I agree with you that they probably don’t wanna upset the big customers they make bikes for
@the.communist
@the.communist Күн бұрын
You should be able to buy direct from china
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