ASTROPHOTOGRAPHY SHOOT OUT: £600 vs £6000

Can a £600 astrophotography rig consisting of a telescope, camera and mount beat a £6000 rig in a deep space photography shoot out? Lets find out with the ultimate SPACEOFF!
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[@tobiasthrien1]

1:26 Ms. Biscuit: "You wasted 6000£ on this?" Mr. Biscuit: "You got a point there. Let's spend another 600£ to prove you're right"

[@Riktenstein]

haha

[@davidfrau4517]

exactly lol

[@lua9502]

lol

[@Astrobiscuit]

and of course the question Mrs biscuit is asking now is why haven't I sold the expensive kit...

[@carlekholm5315]

This guy is playing in a different league.

[@JoeLewis14]

This channel is criminally underrated. Educational, informative, great production value, and down to Earth. You deserve a million subs. You will get there, soon. Keep it up.

[@DreadEnder]

Actually it’s very much not down to earth in most senses of the word

[@stew_redman]

The only problem with Astrobiscuit videos is that they end.

[@hungniglet0416]

true

[@Tahydrahel]

Every good story must have an end.

[@hungniglet0416]

wtf?

[@maruftim]

true!

[@Littlefish1239]

@Gitarin Videochord 😭😭😭

[@jackdaniel-kb2mt]

Neighbour be like" Hey honey, there's some guy up on a ladder talking to a pink plastic rabbit." Lol. Great video man.

[@astrumspace]

Really glad you managed to get this made! Well done, it turned out great!

[@mmb3006]

Wow 0.5 mil subs damn

[@VIM365]

Ayy, Astrum, your videos are super high quality mate, keep it up

[@zsanterre]

oh hey astrum, I follow your channel too lol! I just found this guy

[@tofifichannel7199]

Hey, Astrum, ,nice, another person with a checkmark that doesn’t have any replies.

[@Cosmo47526]

Damn it’s him!

[@onelpeiris]

Richard Hammond's long lost brother...

[@Riktenstein]

Haha

[@VivekGangwar02]

Underrated comment

[@mrew42]

Who doesn't crash as much !!!

[@noelgeorge3442]

But smarter

[@tomroberts3851]

Astrobiscuit, the most underrated guy on KZbin! Amazing work!!

[@Astrobiscuit]

thx Tom most appreciated ;-)

[@aronbodi808]

Agreed!

[@fsefso7587]

To hell with all astrobackyards and other fancy stuff this is real astrophotography: going on trip under dark sky and making three or four pictures in one night, with better quality than those light polluted!

[@VintageMusic729]

Fse Fso Agreed! This man explains way better than AstroBackyard.

[@astroadventures3559]

I think so too. Love this dude.

[@MikeHammer1]

This is like watching the astronomy version of Top Gear!

[@bigmikeh]

All Mike Hammers are wise and should be closely listened to. ;)

[@miguel_m19041]

hahahah! totally!

[@Fartmaster699]

Fr Bro,

[@kiuri.]

This is better than most episodes I've seen on TV, and the irony of it is that it is about shooting stars in the UK... Brilliant! Thank you for a great vid!

[@mrtambourineman6107]

What about the hit comedy quiz show, "Shooting Stars' 🔫 🤔

[@electricpaisy6045]

It was much easier to tell which shot was from which scope than it was to tell which one is better actually. The spikes on the big star made it easy to tell that this wasn't a refracting one rather than a reflecting scope.

[@maciek3156]

This deserves an Oscar for editing..

[@mannypruggy672]

Definitely the most under-subscribed and underrated channel on the whole of KZbin. I somehow found it a couple of nights ago while deciding which Binoculars to start with, and I’m rationing the number of videos I can watch daily, because there genuinely are NOT ENOUGH!! The ones I have watched have been fit for TV... and I sincerely wish you all the best in finding new people like me so you can make more and more new vids. Thank you Mr Biscuit!

[@mobspeak]

Being an astronomer in the UK, you might as well switch to astrology.

[@davidrockefeller2007]

Guess that’s why the second hand mounts were so cheap.

[@minishark7630]

@@davidrockefeller2007 hahahahah

[@chnacr2]

And I thought living in a monsoon heavy country was bad. But no wonder astrology such a booming business in my country

[@TechKidShazil]

@@chnacr2 same dude

[@KyleSG88]

So basically then just spend abit more then 600 but alot less then 6000 and your good to go.

[@afinafina]

Maaassively underrated channel. Amazing production value and quality

[@Karvan420]

I mean the 6000 one is quite clearly better than the 600 one. But, is it 10 times better? I don't think so.

[@arniet1]

That's a most excellent point!

[@Chmicken.]

@@arniet1 no

[@arniet1]

@@Chmicken. ? No what?

[@jeff-hd9og]

Diminishing returns

[@Z-add]

I wonder what people do with their 60,000 pounds planewave setup.

[@sergeyalekseev9178]

So I've seen the thumbnail and I thought "ok another one boring video, this one is expensive but better, this one is cheap but worse blah-blah-blah". I have never been so wrong in my life.

[@danielcartis9011]

Took the words right out of my mouth. I was so surprised but so pleased!

[@Undy1]

AstroBackyard: "I consider a small apochromatic refractor to be the absolute best choice for beginners, and that’s what I’ll recommend." You can get one for only $800! "It can be mounted to a modest equatorial telescope mount such as the Sky-Watcher HEQ5, or EQ6-R Pro" (~$1300). A cheap DSLR will cost you around $300 and you'll need a clip-in light pollution filter ($200). Of course you'll also want a guide scope and a camera so that'll be about $300. The whole setup shouldn't cost you more than $3000 Astrobiscuit: Hold my £600 *keep in mind that all the quoted portions are actually what AstroBackyard has said or wrote word for word. The rest is me overdramatizing.

[@petertone1616]

So, we need an Amazon or Netflix series with you in it..

[@holyravioli5795]

I actually prefer the cheap setup, 21:38 the lens flare is gorgeous.

[@dadolphinplayz]

true

[@UNSCPILOT]

Agreed, the diffraction spikes on the big stars are spectacular too, I need to get my Nexstar 130SLT setup for some deep sky imaging

[@Killbayne]

I used to think every telescope has diffraction spikes because of Hubble Images, and I prefer diffraction spikes over big glowing stars. Some people disagree and will get an apochromatic solely to not have diffraction spikes in the picture.

[@curtzblues]

To make a cheap kit work, one must understand the elements that go into the expensive kit. You obviously do. Thanks for instructing me on those elements.

[@colourlesssky2754]

What does his neighbours think of him watering his garden in the rain 😂

[@Astrobiscuit]

I think they're more worried about where I'm pointing my telescopes😂

[@michaelmontgomery6388]

And talking to bunny🐇😂😂😂👍

[@Astrobiscuit]

@@michaelmontgomery6388 🤣🤣

[@bigniper]

dayne moodley Being English neighbours are used to eccentricity .

[@teaser6089]

@@Astrobiscuit Haha

[@karstenlaqua4156]

Can we just take a second and be amazed at what incredible pictures we are now able to take as absolute amateurs even on a budget! Just mindblowing!

[@nekekaminger]

I have my doubts that any absolute amateur would be able to take such a great picture :D But, yeah, I totally get your point.

[@TheVergile]

“im not gonna tell you which one is which” huge ass diffraction spike right on screen

[@astrorya]

That's exactly what I was thinking lmao

[@No_More_Wrath]

Yes, it wasn't really much of a mystery.

[@dimacherepovskyi8600]

You can theoretically remove the diffraction if you take 2 photos at 45 degrees to each other.

[@odyseuszkoskiniotis6266]

@@dimacherepovskyi8600 The stars have been tracked for 1 hours xd

[@philfyphil]

I could see the expensive one’s results were more detailed, but there’s no denying the cheap one gave good results. I just don’t have the brother in law to cut the tube! :-)

[@lography6917]

Your production quality and entertainment value is literally out of this world

[@ronaldg7522]

Astrobackyard got me interessted in astophotograpy and intimidated me at the same time. You got me realy started. Thanks Mr. Biscuit Greatings from Germany

[@Astrobiscuit]

cool tjx👍😁

[@chillcopyrightfreemusic]

I'm so glad I found your channel! Love it 😻

[@RishiDonapati]

This was beautiful! The production value reminds me of shows like mythbusters I watched as a kid !

[@LyricsMassiah]

"No, I'm talking out me ass of course." That line sold me. I'm a fan now.

[@scopex2749]

Big thank you to Biscuit because if one of his videos hadnt popped up randomly on you tube and I watched it......I wouldnt now be setting up for my first astro shoot. Also finding the worlds TOP mount specialist (who now has my mount) to tune it up to SUB .3 arc seconds OMG!!! NEBULAE here i come!

[@Alumx]

this fella has crazy scientist energy to him, and I love it

[@Beatprisoner]

Hey, I came here „by accident“ as this video was recommended to me. Hell, yes, what a luck. This video was very funny and extremely informative. I like your style, especially as you are taking yourself not too seriously and you are making a lot of nice jokes. Anyway, even I‘m not really in Astrophotography I subscribed to your channel because it is funny and I get a lot of new and usefull information. Thanks a lot!

[@ansgarkossowski9587]

Same here :-D

[@miuzik8op908]

Dont worry, hes not really in Astrophotography either...

[@julianbingham3999]

Mate seriously one of the most entertaining things I've ever seen on KZbin, utterly brilliant. I've been thinking about having a go at astronomy for a while and found this video genuinely inspiring, thank you.

[@MMphotography1996]

Oh man, hilarious and genius 😄🙌 The amount of work you've put for a video, it's unbelievable !!!

[@edwardhewer8530]

You have to be the most entertaining Astronomer on the planet. Your editing, music, and guests are first class. Thanks for making this so watchable.

[@Blue_man-BM]

It’s been 2 years and yet this is great

[@christianbass10]

This channel has put on SO MUCH EFFORT ON THIS...Appreciate you and subbed

[@divyajnana]

We call those noisy mounts, coffee grinders, at the San Diego Astronomy Association. I have an old Meade LX55. On cold winter nights, when the mount starts whirring, I tell everyone that the expresso will be ready in a moment.

[@Astrobiscuit]

can be a bit embarrassing at 2am 15ft from my neighbours window on my roof in london. New mount purrs tho😁

[@LoblollyLights]

That's the mount I have! I bought it used a few years ago, and it's caused me so much grief I'm trying to find a better one. I'm glad to know they don't really get louder than this one lol

[@BlowsTube]

Do you go to the observatory East of town? I was there for a conference once and brought a refractor scope with me in my luggage just so I could spend a few evenings up by the observatory. The sky was amazing.

[@kapilbusawah7169]

When he got to the 'old relic' scene I legit thought he was talking about the geezer at the door. It's at 12:10 😄

[@mynamejeff8401]

Lol

[@nikoligogle3153]

I thought about the guy! 😆

[@thelogician3845]

Seriously underrated comment 😄😄😄

[@nisco5788]

Yes, that’s the joke

[@hpproductions2416]

Same

[@oupwo7468]

I am a noob student.. However, I took a panoramic shot of the milky way... With like 170€. 150€ of phone and a pan to stabilize it for my phone that I put on my window sill. And the best part is I could see andromeda on the photo! I could never take DSO tho. This is very cool to notice that we all do astronomy differently. To be honest, I would dream to have an epic rig with a lot of feature, but taking "good" shots with the cheapest way also amuses me a lot. Like wow, with a 150€ phone and 50 shots with sequator, I could make a fairly good picture. There is coma deformation but my photo was only 50 shots and I recently discovered I could take 400 shots! I am impatient to see what I'll get.

[@leozendo3500]

Extremely well produced and I instantly subscribed. One physics thing though, the light captured is much much more dependent on the size of the telescope's opening/main reflector and a lot less about the size of the sensor. A big sensor is good for low light because larger (1um) pixels have better electrical properties and less noise. Not because more light falls on it. More light falls on it if you use a wide lens.

[@wattouk]

This is ,by far, my favorite video this year.

[@mattestabrook]

Great video, great channel. How funny that you dismantled the Edmund scope to make sure it had the best mirror--and later learn that the Edmund mirror was the best all along!

[@djpunisha29]

this is why I love youtube, because of people and channel like this :)

[@hashed206]

The one man Top Gear of Astrophotography, please keep it up!

[@swham1]

I’ve missed Top Gear for nearly a decade. I never knew my fix would come in the form of a KZbin show about astrophotography, but these amazing challenges are scratching a very deep itch. This channel is just the best. Thank you!

[@Addensart]

The "No I don't need that part" did not age well

[@Riktenstein]

Haha too true.😅

[@Fifispatular]

😂😂yes

[@cameronwright6536]

This video was so well done, and incredibly fun to watch. As many have said before, it really did feel like top gear, but for astronomy in the best way.

[@laurentiudinca9606]

This is the best Astrophotography content out there. No idea how long I've been waiting for this. Glad you are back!

[@Techado]

like wow , prank videos get 2 million views, and this skillfull, magical astrophotographer has only 43k subs? i subbed definitely for that hardwork and skills and effort for making one of those amazing pics

[@kevinashley478]

Hey Rory....any regrets on cutting up the red scope now??? LOL For those that don't know, see the video where he goes against a 7,000,000 pound observatory. "What do you want to do with this bit?" "Oh I don't need that." Rory, you ALWAYS need the bits.

[@rwatson2609]

I had no idea that a guy with a scope could get pics like this from earth for under $10,000 let alone 600 quid. Bloodie EL!

[@KikiTay]

Your production value and hosting ability is just amazing!

[@nickk36]

This is the best channel I've ran across in forever. I genuinely enjoyed every moment! You've earned yourself a new fan.

[@Riktenstein]

Thanks Man!!

[@catinapipe60]

@@Riktenstein no problem!!!

[@lainevince]

Thanks!

[@Astrobiscuit]

thanks mate much appreciated

[@KYREKING]

Man, this videos is freaking amazing! OMFG! Loved it

[@RT65CB-SWL]

Yay... the return of 'Pink Bunny'... and Rory & Rik. No bull$**t; (🐂💩), down to earth, no script... as it should be. You make the world a better and enjoyable place. Stay safe! 😷

[@Riktenstein]

Quick Rory, burn the scripts!!!

[@joshgarver1197]

This is one of the most entertaining videos I have ever seen on KZbin!

[@gaz909909]

Sooo bloody good. I watched this then smashed the whole back catalogue in 24 hours. I’ve had a celestron 130SLT for about two years and couldn’t work out why my Canon pics were so crap then I watch this and ... stacking:.. who knew??? Revolutionised my life. Can’t wait to get involved again. And as a music producer I’m loving Rik’s work and even purple bunny. Please don’t stoop making these videos. They’re excellent. You should be chuffed to bits with them.

[@woody5109]

Hahaha, I love the fact you don’t take yourself to seriously, bravo

[@samuelmcbride9797]

Great friggin video man!

[@peregrinussolutionsllc6010]

Love your channel!!! I feel like every episode is a lesson on how modern day documentaries should be made. Amazing!!! :-D

[@Mety333]

wow great video of your journey! you clearly put a lot of effort into your creations amazing job! i subbed [=

[@icynice9482]

hello mety.

[@sennabullet]

Learned a ton. Had a good laugh (or three). Enjoyed the music. Thanks a million for this vid! You have my thumbs and sub!

[@Riktenstein]

Thanks. More big vids in the making.

[@rob_olmstead]

You are a legend, your plots are legendary, your soundtrack is legendary.

[@boboften9952]

Even The Police And The Fire Brigade Can't Get Its Blue And Red Lights In The Same Correct Places With Out An Incident.

[@corpsep4rty]

Love the video editing/content of this.

[@drstew1]

Oh my me. This was brilliant. I loved every moment. Apart from the canon 5 d mk ii. I bought that same body in 2009 for 1.749.00. ok prices change, look at 2nd hand houses. Oh yeah your Bro in law his carpentry looks excellent. This is thumbs up up and away

[@neoasura]

I'm more interested in how you found a Canon 5d Mark II for only 166, when I see the cheapest on EBay right now for $425.

[@parranoic]

High shutter count, probably an auction that no one wanted because it's hard (ish) to flip

[@preeejush]

My thoughts exactly.

[@ioannemes9287]

You are right, the prices are not realistic, and unreliable, but it seems Clickbait really works.

[@billbillw]

In the USA, Ebay price for body only is trending at $495 over the last 90-days. There is a BIN for $315+shipping now though, but it has a shutter count over 300,000 and sometimes gives a lens error, which wouldn't be an issue for this purpose.

[@Connor-xh7ug]

I think he said at some point that it was sold for parts but he repaired it?

[@margincall7]

Man, the production value/effort is so high on these vids. Super entertaining AND educational for a newbie astronomer. Thank you! Cheers!

[@pug8550]

This is how you make astro channel not boring. Tell everything how to do and how hard it could be. Nice channel. Keep it up sir.

[@Ancientreapers]

23:03 For a £5400 savings, that much cheaper scope does pretty damn good against the expensive one even with the tracking motor issue. As Han Solo would say: she may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts and I made all the modifications myself. 26:43 Hope to see a follow up with the replacement tracker mount on the custom scope. 22:42 It was a dead giveaway between A&B due to the spikes on the bright stars from the secondary mirror holder veins of the Newtonian.

[@luukdeboer1974]

I will pay special attention to the music

[@Riktenstein]

Thanks!

[@LlamaFluff]

Riktenstein it was really good!

[@B4ndwidthBandito]

The totally hilarious tupperware sensor test earned you my like, (damn you've got a lot of old telescopes)

[@seal41243]

This is one of the best produced KZbin video's i have seen in a while. It is like watching Topgear! Really fun, really well edited, and inspirational for an amateur astronomer like me! Great work! Subscribed!

[@remcovanhal6336]

''I spent 6000 on this setup, my wife is not happy'' SO ''I am going to build another one for 600!'' Your wife deserves a medal for sure !! Love the contect though, buying my first telescope on wednesday (Celestron PS 60mm F10, on my superbudget for only 50 euros)

[@theone7265]

Man I really love this kind of video! Last year I was inspired by your smartphone-astrophotography video and managed to get a decent shot of the orion nebula with my own smartphone. When I got my tax refund this year I finally bit the bullet and bought a cheap DSLR and some Takumar lenses. I'm planning to build my own tracking-setup with a stepper motor this summer! Cheers from Sweden!

[@Astrobiscuit]

sounds really cool. I had a takamur lens once... gave it away annoyingly

[@theone7265]

@@Astrobiscuit Shame. Haven't gotten the time to use mine that much but they feel like very high quality.

[@joeshmoe7967]

@ZƎLIOTT Find a way to shoot through the scope and try it. For long exposure you need a tracking mount. You can start with the moon. No tracker needed for that.

[@AstroForumSpace]

This is the only astrophotography channel - including my own - where the final pictures are less exciting than the video, LOL. The bunny is clearly from alpha centauri, the accent gives it away. Please continue this awesomeness.

[@duckyjr4275]

The bunny voice just like bane in batman trilogy character..hahaa

[@Stevie75]

Is the stress reducing medication taken into account with the 600 quid setup ? 😉 Excellent video!

[@Astrobiscuit]

no... also the budget set ups don't last as long bc they get hurled over cliffs fairly regularly

[@palmparadise85]

Instant follow when you conferred with the pink rabbit on the roof.

[@Cyclegladiator]

After watching only 3 of your videos, you’re already one of my favorite KZbinrs! Thanks for posting

[@Pablanz]

“Im not going to tell you which is which”, well you can tell by the cross on the stars... 😂😂

[@timurhant469]

Yes but if you already know that, you also would know the "natural" outcome of this experiment. :)

[@krishna12645]

accidentally, i bought 3 scopes - Astrobiscuit

[@Qaosbringer]

question: what if we got expensive camera like Nikon 810A < Canon EOS Ra < Sony a7R IV < Fujifilm GFX 50 R (noise performance in this order) if higher sensitivity and larger sensor is better, would they be more useful than a ZWO ASIO71mc?

[@erickarevalo9158]

Not quite, you must take into consideration the fact that the sensor needs to be refrigerated, if so, you discovered the wheel

[@KYREKING]

Congratulations for the video! was really Epic

[@techtalkmike4968]

Astrophotography has been a distant unobtainable endeavor for me. Until just recently, that is. I've now the time and, well the time, to jump in. Your channel and your commentary and approach to astrophotography have truly been an inspiration and a much needed bit of comedic relief. The time and effort you put forth in every video is extraordinary. Thank you very much!

[@ayaye1918]

I have watched this atleast 10 times now plainly cause for a newbie astro-enthusiast like me there is just so much important info packed in these 26 mins.. great pairing with cloudynights for a good understanding of things that go on in here! Much love and respect 😊

[@Lyf4rMusic]

Came for the Content of Telescopes, Stayed fo the Brilliant Humour !

[@Riktenstein]

cheers!

[@TMS5100]

channels i found during quarantine.

[@IWDA4]

I've recently become a fan of this channel and loved this video. A few questions (from somebody with no expertise) in regard to the fan usage: 1) Considering the fan just circulates air, is it actually going to have any cooling effect whatsoever (unless the [parts of the] camera generates heat)? 2) Wouldn't the fan produce microvibrations that could have a significant impact on the end result? 3) If the fan is blowing air in the front of the mirror, it would surely generate small amounts of undesirable turbulence? Although perhaps insignificant

[@ZopcsakFeri]

It's "I and Bunny", not "me and Bunny", but I still ABSOLUTELY LOVE this channel. I've been contemplating astrophotography: while other youtubers take my courage, Rory gives it back EVERY time! To the extent that I start to not care about grammar anymore! This is pure awesomness.

[@oliverkeely4767]

He’s like a mixture between Robbie Knox and Richard hammond

[@ujjwalbhatt1460]

This channel is soo underrated man you deserve millions of subs the quality you have put in the video I loved it man, Love from India. ❤️

[@Astrobiscuit]

love u back from London

[@syafsmileable]

Can we talk about how brave he is diy his gear? I would never done that bcs I'm coward af 😂

[@cico91]

Amazing video. Really funny and great quality ! Cant wait to see more

[@DidhierM]

Just here to say that your video was amazing. A lot of work on it, despite being a somehow not that serious video. I love it! Subscribed.

[@ecla141]

Love the music. So sick!

[@st.michaelthearchangel7774]

Yeah, we usually pay for the brand name for high-prices items.

[@Runneround]

the whole episode i was thinking that the tunes in the background where wicked!!

[@Riktenstein]

Thanks!

[@greespons4343]

Excellent video Mr; greetings from Mexico.

[@AstroProductReviews]

...I'm watching this video yet again! (whilst processing images) That's just how well-done and entertaining it is!