ASUS Proart PZ13 Review

[@GartziaArtz]

Great review Brad! It's nice to see more good Windows tablets but it's a shame they don't put mpp 2.6 on them.

[@LightStainYT]

What’s that?

[@zycane]

Would be nice if Wacom just gave oems their pro pen tech. What an amazing amount of possible drawing laptops we might get then.

[@Ferrous_Bueller]

They do offer it to OEM that will pay for it.

[@skilarbabcock8720]

I don't think it's has anything to do with wacom. Wacom was in the fiest 2 surface pros for example. Wacom is still in samsung devices. I think it's a cost thing for the hardware manufacturers

[@orangeofmars2835]

I would like to see these manufacturers with modern sketch laptops/tablets also see a matte magnetic screen protector. I hate drawing on glass and no screen protector available is a deal breaker for me.

[@jamesbullo]

There are screen protectors out there that are a general size, and you can cut them down to fit. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@demon6937]

Which of the magnetic ones do you recommend? I got cheap one but I can’t see the colors accurately in my tablet

[@coinopanimator]

Bang on!

[@ebiooo]

​@@demon6937 that's what matte screens do. You won't get the best colors and clarity with it

[@macmick]

Oh, finally we know! We’ve been waiting for so long for your opinion. Next time, don’t let us in uncertainty for such a long time. Some of us need to make decisions sooner but without your move we are not able to decide! 😂

[@ff7522]

It's been like 10 years since ARM processors started coming up more frequently and adobe still can't do it. They never will at this point.

[@coinopanimator]

To be fair microsoft havent been able to do it either.

[@ff7522]

True. I can't see myself ever using something with ARM at this point. It would have to be a very specific use case

[@michael_c2]

I mean that's not an apples to apples comparison. Microsoft is trying to do it and has tried to do it many times and Adobe has not. Microsoft has to transition practically infinite programs in Adobe I only has their own.

[@coinopanimator]

@@michael_c2 actually apple has made a chip switch. Many times. Motorola to PowerPC to Intel to Arm. Its just very good at doing that now and OSX is designed to be able to make the transition as easy as possible. Windows. Not so much.

[@hhidd]

>> "Pro" "Art" tablet >> WPP Jittery pen how many tablets must they make to understand we love the iPad and the apple pencil for a reason... with windows tablets i usually skip right to the pen section cause pen performance is probably THE most important thing to me, barely ahead of refresh rate (i prefer 120hz). i could live with 60hz but i can't live a bad pen.

[@hhidd]

@@rangerkayla8824 i mean valid ig, I'd love a pen display but basically none of them support 120hz yet, and the few that do are insanely expensive. i wish i didn't care so much about refresh rate but my iPad is 120hz, and my monitor is 165hz, so 60 just feels so laggy to me. i main a wacom intuos + krita on pc (with mentioned monitor). somehow apple can fit a killer pen + 120hz + trustable color + good resolution (WITH a computer attached) in a sub-$1000 package, but basically no pen display can even do 90hz, let alone 120hz without costing $2000+

[@xRamada]

@@rangerkayla8824 id say ipad if def better than the trash gaomon puts out lol

[@IsfarKabirTamim]

​@@rangerkayla8824 True. I've experienced Wacom, Huion, XP Pen and others' pen technology is way more powerful than Apple pencil and Microsoft pen.

[@fix0the0spade]

Samsung seem to have some kind of exclusivity deal with Wacom. Way back I had an ASUS EP121 that had a Wacom pen and it was amazing (for 2012). The loss of it for crappy active pens on everything except Samsung is depressing, Samsung couldn't make a good windows device if their lives depended on it.

[@rhoharane]

Apple Pencil is definitely not a gold standard by any stretch. Lots of people complain about its unstable pressure and accuracy. It's just that many people also don't care because they use it in ways where that doesn't matter and the benefits of an iPad outweigh it. IMO, the iPad being an iPad has a lot more to do with it being a desirable device. Device support. Looks neat. Compact. Quiet. Great battery life. Great touch controls experience. Easy to find accessories for it. Great speakers and screen which means it's easily a "reference device" and great for looking at images and watching videos. As much as Apple does nasty, consumer-adversarial things, the iPad is usually a great bang for your buck. For art purposes though, it's not for everyone because of the characteristics of the Apple Pencil. Some people have switched to Galaxy tabs and loved the pen a lot more. These Windows devices have an uphill battle in terms of even just matching all those good characteristics. Using one of the worst pen tech doesn't help their case.

[@liamcollinson5695]

Kudos to asus for actually including the keyboard i am sick of Microsoft showing the surface pro with a keyboard then acting like it's optional and charging through the teeth for one

[@chrismscotland2009]

Just to add; you can buy a separate charger for the Slim Pen 2 for around £20 - you don't "need" to buy one of their keyboard.

[@dantower8268]

For something that is supposed to be focused on artists, it's a shame they went with mpp instead of wacom.

[@wordlv]

Focused on way more than just artists

[@trowawayacc]

Exactly. Its like why. Why would you ruin it in this specific art related way...😢

[@christianr.5868]

@@wordlvit’s got pro art in the name

[@wordlv]

@@christianr.5868 it's a computer. It's a tool. It runs software. You can use it for whatever you want. I own it and I'm not an artist

[@christianr.5868]

@@wordlv yes but again, with pro art in the name, you’d think it have pro art features

[@gamingconnected4859]

I wish Asus would make a new ASUS - ROG Flow Z13 13.4” with an OLED screen and a 4060 or 4070.

[@ElohiSilverEarthVentures]

Agreeee

[@m808bscorpionmbt3]

I thought they did already.

[@joehodgson2815]

1599 euros in Europe - gigantic bait-and-switch!

[@franciscodetonne4797]

More choices for Window tablets are good, even if they are a bit underpowered (the pen still needs to be at least decent though). Even for people who do a bit of sketching/note-taking on the side of common office works, which mostly are on Windows OS.

[@PaulKaseta]

Another great review Brad! Love seeing the comic progress. Also, question? Recently lost my iPad :( was curious about your opinion. Android tablet (s9FE + or similar) new iPad Air, or a device like this? I do art on the go for the most part. I have a MacBook already so it would seem silly to get something like this. but if it was just for art? I need to replace my iPad some way some how soon but Im not sure the route I want to go anymore now that android has really stepped up their art game (at least the galaxy tabs) did all my work in clip studio (for backup purposes) so I can just to a different device if need be.

[@thebradcolbow]

Android is good but if you're already in the iOS ecosystem I would stay there.

[@BrunoThiaolayel]

Why not a Wacom movink with your macbook ?

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@@thebradcolbow There is Krita though.

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@cameronbosch1213Kirita doesn’t hold a candle to Clip Studio let alone Procreate or Art Studio Pro

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@chidorirasenganz Still, it's SOMETHING. And Clip Studio Paint IS on Android.

[@spookysmovie5347]

The pencil was in the box in Canada

[@ronyvanhove]

Great review! BTW, this tablet has a Snapdragon X Plus with 8 cores and the baseline Surface Pro 11 X Plus with 10 cores. I am surprised you mentioned that you can't download ARM version of Fresco.... I am using ARM version of Fresco for serveral months now (it was released earlier this year), first on my Surface Pro X (SQ2) and now on my Surface Pro 11.

[@johndelabretonne2373]

Brad, nice review, but I have two issues. 1) You can purchase a charging dock for the Surface Slim Pen 2; I got mine for $35, so you don't have to have the keyboard to charge. 2) The storage on the Surface Pro is used replaceable; there is a little door behind the kickstand that you can open and replace the Nvme SSD. It is never a good idea to pay the storage tax to Microsoft. My big issue with Microsoft devices is they male you pay $500 to step up from the base configuration to get an OLEDs screen; now, you do get more storage and an upgrade from the Snapdragon X Plus to the Snapdragon X Elite, but in a space constrained tablet, it doesn't really give you much better performance. At least the IPS screen on the Airbags Pro is really almost as good as OLEDs! The one thing I wish more OEMs that make these Surface Pro Clones would do is to use the 3:2 aspect ratio that the Surface Pro uses rather than 16:10. It just makes so much more sense for a tablet device; the weight distribution is just so much more manageable...

[@RobertBitzer]

Hi Brad, did you find that the screen was warm on your palm when drawing? That's always bothered me with the Surface products and when I had an Asus Z13. Who wants to draw, journal, or take notes on a device thats getting warmer and warmer on the skin? I always figured it was the hot intel processor causing the extra heat, and I am curious if the Snapdragon machines have allowed for a cooler screen experience like on ipads and galaxy tabs. Keep up the great work, always enjoy your videos!

[@davidemesina3909]

Hi, I recently got a Surface Pro with SP Elite... I drew something, although I didn't get it primarily for that. When you draw it gets a little warm, not like Intel processors but it certainly doesn't stay cold at all. I don't know about this Asus of course, but speaking of Snapdragon I noticed this, especially with some big drawing apps like Adobe Fresco, that needs full performance battery settings. Whereas if you write or do some small sketches on One Note, for example, it doesn't heat up at all. Wish It could helps.

[@IntertropicalConvergence-gf3bm]

possible to get a linux version?

[@danielpv1763]

This thing has a full SD slot, whereas the PX13 does not. Someone at ASUS product design needs to be made redundant ASAP.

[@dnch]

and no headpone jack

[@Charles_Bro-son]

Pen wobble is a pity.

[@AryansinghT60]

Hi Brad. Awesome video as always. I dont know if you have covered Remarkable e ink display tablets. They just announced their coloured e ink tablet " Paper Pro". Do try to cover it also if possible!!

[@polymathart]

A budget or midtier ITX gaming PC and a 16inch drawing tablet is a non-professional artist’s dream.

[@eitanyochanan8586]

I'll get one next year; my friends who work from two well-known chip companies advised get a new one in Q1 or mid-2025.

[@stengon2603]

Is it too much to ask for a Windows device with a decent battery, a good pen, and the capability to connect it to a drawing tablet? I just want an ipad like windows tablet that I can take with me when I need it, and hook it up to a wacom at home. So to keep my tech to a minimal and all my files in one place.

[@Lord_Vanns]

Will you do a video on the Ugee UE16?

[@EnochGitongaKimathi]

I hope we get a Microsoft Surface Pro with Lunar Lake aka Intel Core Ultra 200V Series.

[@tylerwhyte6774]

I know you said that fresco doesn't have an arm version but when you did the review for the surface pro 11 with a arm processor you were using fresco so why doesn't it work on the pz13

[@mercer77]

I'm choosing a device for a teenager who needs a computer to do homework etc, but also likes doing digital art on a dying iPad with Apple Pencil 1. I'd really appreciate some advice on what would be best.... Would this be a better option than an MacBook Air with a Wacom Intuos drawing tablet? I think the MacBook Air is a better overall computer by some margin, but I'm wondering whether the digital drawing experience for the Asus Proart (obviously being able to draw on the screen and the flexibility to draw say on a bed etc) would actually make this a better option?

[@h4ppydr4gon]

Brad! Could you test the Meta and Renaisser pens for surface(old and new models)? The Renaisser r520c and 530 at least are supposed to be quite a bit bitter than especially the old Surface Pen. The same for the Meta M2 and up.

[@Mouri2304]

Can I run AutoCad or coding software on that device? I’m studying engineering, so I’m looking for a tablet for note taking that can also be a laptop, and this piqued my interest.

[@theforgedone]

How hot does this get under extended use? Does it get uncomfortable to draw on after awhile due to heat?

[@deabreu.tattoo]

I had no idea there is no drivers for Wacom & other tablets. That's a game breaker for ARM

[@image360tucker5]

In hate they advertise the unit with the pen and backpack. Do you know where you can purchase the pen and the backpack?

[@Aman_Mondal]

Let's hope the apps work nicely

[@antocarant]

It is really a good review, thank you for that! I'm actually having trouble wich pen should i buy for the this ASUS Proart PZ13, as in my order the pen is not included. Any Asus pen would work on it?

[@tsalem329]

So happy to have way to get rid of microsft ripping me of with expensive surface keyboards made of undurable material which last no more than one year

[@SvitlanaLapka]

How does it work for retouchers? Is it good for Photoshop and Lightroom?

[@AgentZeroNine1]

Lunar Lake just made ARM (especially on Windows) look like a mistake. Can't wait till we get Windows tablets that are based on Lunar Lake.

[@dnch]

yep.. probably gonna wait till january , even if they come before christmass the prices will be ridiculous

[@olamideolaleye5690]

hi brad got i huion kamvas 13 recently bcs of your review even if its a bit old

[@grellowny6978]

But they released a newer version of it recently

[@NerdyScotsman]

annoys me that phones and tablets have removed 3.5mm jack i think it should be manditory for every device not costly and it's most damn useful thing to exists for years

[@CorvusSolitario]

7:13 Wouldn't Wacom One be an exception to this since it was originally advertised as a tablet that could work with mobile phones (and therefore snapdragon devices)?

[@SwordfighterRed]

Potentially, but does Windows on ARM have a Wacom One driver?

[@januszciechowskiphotograph7297]

Hi I heard the sensitivity of the screen isn’t the best that is not ready to get nice stroke ???

[@xaliurairpower]

How sturdy is that stand attachment for drawing? I've been sketched out by the ones that just attach magnetically, does it ever pop off when you're drawing?

[@MarkOakleyComics]

Good review! And yeah... My windows 2-in-1 when "Hibernating" drains the battery to zilch in a couple of days. I've never gotten a good answer as to why. It's annoying. So, snapdragon is appealing. But.., no Wacom, no deal. (One day the competition might figure out how to draw a straight line, but apparently.., that day is not today.)

[@dikalagabut9912]

is there any possibility of reviewing the kamvas 13 3rd gen in the future?

[@Ostr4284]

nice review and can you do a dsdt dump of this device i will tell you how to do it i need it for the woa project

[@ianlincoln4278]

My hp drained battery when off. Disabling fast startup fixed it.

[@MyurrDurr]

Damn, Fast Startup is a problem for many reasons! Especially if you wanna Dual Boot with Windows and Linux

[@ChrizMagadia]

How does this (or the PX13) compares to a dedicated drawing tablet like the Huion XP Pen and Wacom.

[@davidgeorgemahl4313]

Can you please review the Lenovo Yoga 7i 2 in 1?

[@aki-ox5yf]

I just started drawing digitally, so i am still learning. I draw on my tablet which is quite a old model (samsung galaxy A7) and have slowed down a bit. I don't have really good pen either as digital devices are quite pricey here. I want to buy a new tablet in a few months and not sure which one to buy. Though my main focus is to be able to draw on it, I am also a college student and uses my tablet for the pdfs and ebooksmy professors recommend (that's why i don't want to buy a device exclusively for drawing). Any good recommendations in a mideum price range? Like in 550 dollars?( actually it's 50000 Indian rupees 😅)

[@katon4525]

How the hell does a tablet marketed for artist do not include the pen. You can't even compare that to the Ipad because it's not marketed for artist.

[@PrintAimGame]

iPad Pro is 100% marketed to artists.

[@katon4525]

@@PrintAimGame it's not. A wacom is marketed specifically towards artist. An ipad has artist capabilities that some may find appealing but it's not a device exclusively for artist.

[@PrintAimGame]

@@katon4525 Show me an iPad Pro ad that doesn't prominently feature the Apple Pencil and artist software then. To really drive this point home, look at how little they advertise the magic keyboard in their ads by comparison.

[@katon4525]

@@PrintAimGame Bro the ipad is an all around tablet. Having the ipencil doesn't mean you have to draw with it. They advertise that you can multitask with the ipad, it's not a drawing tablet exclusive product that is marketed towards artist. This Asus tablet literally has the name "ProArt". Are you dense, Anyway there's no point in continuing if you don't like my comment then don't respond. simple.

[@PrintAimGame]

@@katon4525 And they advertise that you can multitask with the ProArt. Art is more than drawing. You brought up the comparison to an iPad, a comparison that is blatantly wrong. It's not a matter of not liking your comment. iPad Pros are 100% marketed to artists and also do not include a pen by default.

[@Uterr]

You should have start with the lag, but I guess video would be over too soon then. iPad figured lag 10 years ago, Wacom figured lag even more time ago, and here we are. I have a laptop with this type of digitizer and it is UNUSABLE

[@rustemyaqoob1594]

Hi I have a question please, is this device good for using photoshop desktop version? Is it also good for using sketchbook autodesk and coral pent?

[@Robbosso]

Does this work like a Windows laptop and with Oracle software?

[@renep5008]

Hi Brad, a little off topic here: of all your palm rejection glove collection which is the best?

[@thebradcolbow]

Oh shoot, I forget where I got it. I think it came with the Huion Kamvas Pro 19. But there are gloves with padding on the palm and those help with palm rejection a lot more than the little thin ones. Not sure where to get one those without dropping 1k on a tablet 😂

[@renep5008]

@@thebradcolbow Thanks for your quick reply and your sense of humor Brad, makes watching your videos so much fun and educational, (especially when you’re doing the glove dance 😄)… The quest for the perfect palm rejection glove shall continue. Cheers and keep up the excellent reviews work!!

[@KK-fi6ms]

Its incredible.

[@FelixTheAnimator]

Should've downloaded the Windows portable edition of Krita!

[@bluesunflower1698]

Does this laptop have eye tracker?

[@RavenRaven-se6lr]

Looks so is it good for trading view?

[@mrwoodcat]

lol I'm thinking that too. a touchscreen laptop is enough for me tho for TV.

[@ayushpandey4886]

Please make setup with galaxy Tab a9 and any good stylus

[@phantomlumina8686]

The loop is definitely a dealbreaker.

[@hikodzu]

review on poco pad + poco pen?

[@MaxTurner-e7q]

Asus has bad quality control, my pz13 died within a week of use.

[@eiceys4612]

Is the ssd swappable?

[@vermis8344]

Nice to see more devices for artists. Mmmnot for me, though. Still waiting on the mid-range mini PC vid. 😉

[@marcins5584]

There are still no Zbrush test on Yt on snapdragon laptops:/

[@funwithgood7542]

Does bluestacks work on this tab

[@lunarviewpoint]

LENOVO Yoga 7 or asus pz13?

[@davidmackie8567]

Hey Brad, Adobe Fresco works on my Windows Surface Pro 11 Arm so it should work on Proart PZ13??

[@tobylee1170]

Not sure if the pen is the same. I thought Microsoft made improvements on jitter for their recent Surfaces that did not make it to most MPP devices. This Asus pen jitter looks alot worse than the slim pen 2 on the Surface Laptop Studio.

[@Inkhaurt-Design-Art]

The pen wobble and palm rejection alone are major dealbreakers. Like always, why do they choose anything other than Wacom EMR?!?! It’s been years of these brands making tablets that an artist would buy in a heartbeat and they F it up with WPP and MPP pens…smh.

[@jamesbullo]

They probably don't want to pay for patents. But you're right, they left us artists behind. It's best used for note-taking rather than artwork (wpp).

[@faelwolf1177]

The only affordable laptops and tablets that I know of are Samsung. Why? Because Samsung bought a large block of stock in Wacom, and they get the digitizers at a discount, if not at cost. The Wacom style EMR digitizers are expensive to produce, and Samsung can get them much cheaper through their connection with Wacom. Everyone else does not have access to a dedicated supply line like that, and I'm sure Samsung uses it's leverage to keep that situation going. There are other companies that make EMR digitizers, but you are not going to get the lower per-unit cost of mass production like Wacom has. So, others can use EMR digitizers, but it would raise the cost of the tablet/laptop to a price point most people wouldn't pay. Prices are already too high as it is. Hopefully, in time, we will see all that change, but not holding my breath.

[@RahulRanjan674]

can we use samsung tab s9 fe+ as an extended display for our laptop with tab's touch input including s-pen?

[@IkanaChaos]

I'm curious as to how well this would run 3d software like blender

[@모댕-k7u]

i wish they have 15 inch option of this

[@arjunjawahar8110]

This or samsung android tablet ?

[@xynonners]

wish LNL version of this

[@ElohiSilverEarthVentures]

Is there by chance an ethernet port on this.. not thinking so

[@Duskydog419]

The fact that giant companies can’t tailor their software fast enough even though they had ten+ years to adapt is sad

[@horseman1956]

Excellent focus on using a pen with the PZ13. It could have been a bit better with a demonstration of taking handwritten notes via Microsoft Journal. A big advantage of this device over a traditional laptop is being able to take notes while in a class, lecture or business meeting. I suspect it would work very well for that purpose, but being able to see a demonstration before purchase would be very useful. It strikes me as silly that ASUS didn't include a stylus, particularly given that a stylus is necessary to get full use of the device.

[@x_z0mb1_x]

We can all probably thank apple for the fact they didn't include the pen in the box lol

[@repeekyraidcero]

Lately I'm wishing for a device that allows animating without running out of RAM on either CSP or iBisPaint Apple never ships enough RAM A 16 gig Android samsung tablet would rock

[@benjamina6915]

The keep on bundling theseProArt with amateur pens, that just doesn't make sense. This is not for professional art, this is for hobbyists. For pro art an okay pen is not okay.

[@nicox86]

potresti provare Honor V3?

[@NeilOttoTep]

Brad, can it run Blender ?

[@thebradcolbow]

Yes! Since it doesn't have a dedicated GPU rending isn't great but for what I use Blender for it runs fine. And they are working on an Arm version.

[@Dave102693]

@@thebradcolbowthere’s already an Arm version of Blender available for download

[@Duckstalker1340]

I can't stand asymmetrical bezels, wish they would make a version with symmetrical bezels like an iPad.

[@stlredbird]

I really want to move from my IPP to a full windows based device, but c’mon Microsoft, fix the WPP jitter.

[@Leloreth]

The pen wobble is one major downside that disappointed me of my Surface Pro 7. If they just manage to figure out how to properly fix that so we don't have to turn to software that would be so great. I still love the whole concept of a tablet pc in this format.

[@Jacktheliqour]

can you customize what the pen buttons do? if not then this is an immediate no from me since it's barely made for artists and more just mostly targeted at artists

[@billymania11]

Kind of a strange device. People like me care a lot about running under the X86 architecture and this is ARM. No way I'm taking that chance.

[@Tanto_lulu]

Pen sucks, so doubt it will replace my Wacom + windows combo sadly

[@Lindachynn82]

Pls review huawei matepad 11.5 s

[@Lindachynn82]

Especially for the go paint app

[@greensprite4979]

I don't think wacom would rush to make it compatible knowing it'll kill their own products. 😂

[@joachimb5721]

I hate it when people ask for reviews under reviews for different products. That said, I‘d really like to know your opinion on the new Remarkable with the colour screen.

[@lucidasan2230]

imo Rog Ally X + Kamvas 13 combo might be better and cheaper..

[@keyboard_g]

Having had several Surfaces, the kickstand form factor just doesn't work that well.

[@thibaldus3]

Why that? I find the angle it provides to be a must for ergonomics.

[@MoonyD911]

Sorry, but you lost me at ARM processor. I'm going to wait for the Surface to get the newest Intel Lunar Lake chip to get that better battery life.

[@guss1470]

wonder if you can install Linux... I'm going away from windows cause of spy ware.

[@vinny5915]

This came out a month too late for me, 😩

[@Elijah-wo8bm]

I prefer surface, because I don't need to buy ms office, which is all I need everyday.😊

[@Utkarsh_1508]

I think surface pro has easy upgradable ssd behind the hinge. The keyboard price is horrible though.

[@spookyfool]

Surface owner and Best Buy enployee. My complaint of the Asus is the quality of it. It feels cheap, like the leather material they use doesnt feel great. But i bought the latest Surface (which the best time to buy is on sale 870) and if you want 1 TB you can actaully purchase the hard drive its a model 2230 where you can get almost any model. Now im not dissing on asus for making a surface clone, i like competition and its what helped drop the price of the surface, (Surface pro 9 i5 8 gb model was 1099 last year full price). Also i do dislike they hide the 2nd USB c, i dont mind the sd card reader being covered. I like how premium the surface pro feels in comparison. My honest opinion, love your videos dude