Asus ROG Ally X Hands-On vs Asus ROG Ally - What's New & What It Means For Gaming

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Digital Foundry

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@MINUANOGAMING
@MINUANOGAMING 7 ай бұрын
Asus: Don't benchmark it. Linus: It was revealed to me in a dream that it runs like this. Rich: Look at this frametime graph!
@m0ntypth0n
@m0ntypth0n 7 ай бұрын
😂
@SpentAmbitionDrain
@SpentAmbitionDrain 7 ай бұрын
Linus is a ad peddler.
@loldoctor
@loldoctor 7 ай бұрын
@@SpentAmbitionDrainwhich is a shame because he has some really knowledgeable staff. They just don’t have the time or opportunity to share that knowledge
@V3ntilator
@V3ntilator 7 ай бұрын
@@SpentAmbitionDrain Linus: "Hear me out". PS Portal from Sony makes much more sense than you think... Meanwhile the rest of the world didn't think it made sense for the right reasons. Then you have IGN who gave the same score on both PS Portal and Asus Rog Ally...
@vtg1800
@vtg1800 7 ай бұрын
Handheld bas for gaming, under 60fps with lower resolution 720P. This very uncomfortable
@AmicusRyelei
@AmicusRyelei 7 ай бұрын
"Please review our new thing but, also, don't review it."
@Patrick-y4d1z
@Patrick-y4d1z 7 ай бұрын
Weird, as you'd think the massive improvements are the main selling points. And tbh, they could do with any good publicity right now.
@criticalgeek3914
@criticalgeek3914 7 ай бұрын
It is sus indeed. I was going to wait for the ally X, to see if I should get it over the steam deck oled. But since the "reviews with embargoes, and cant talk about numbers"...guess who just got an steam deck oled yesterday 😅
@lamontieverett4949
@lamontieverett4949 7 ай бұрын
Thats a great point im going to get the x but it will be my first hand held since the psp but i been thinking i may get and x and a steamdeck soon after because the steamdeck is the closest to perfect but the x has more performance
@Patrick-y4d1z
@Patrick-y4d1z 7 ай бұрын
@@lamontieverett4949 The X willy have better performance and battery life. But it will also cost almost twice the price of the OLED 512GB. The OLED 512GB will have a better screen and software. You could always buy the Deck OLED 512GB now, use it for a year and then just wait for the next revision of the Ally X.
@clownavenger0
@clownavenger0 7 ай бұрын
@@criticalgeek3914 The Steam Deck OLED is just a better mobile device. I won't be playing a AAA FPS or Alan Wake on a mobile gaming PC anyway. I will play games like Bloodstained which look amazing on an OLED screen.
@anonony9081
@anonony9081 7 ай бұрын
Sorry you looked at it wrong, we can't honor the warranty...
@V3ntilator
@V3ntilator 7 ай бұрын
I never had anything from Asus that broke, so i don't know. I bought a Lenovo Legion PC Handheld instead and they honor warranties.
@deadlock_problem
@deadlock_problem 7 ай бұрын
@@V3ntilator have you missed the past month?
@V3ntilator
@V3ntilator 7 ай бұрын
@@deadlock_problem Missed what?
@PixelatedWolf2077
@PixelatedWolf2077 7 ай бұрын
@@V3ntilator The issues regarding Asus's way of honoring warrenty. Gamer's Nexus covered this ^^
@atomickaiser1934
@atomickaiser1934 7 ай бұрын
​@@V3ntilatoroh you sweet summer child
@grimdicer152
@grimdicer152 7 ай бұрын
Patiently waiting for the Steam Deck 2
@animationmann
@animationmann 7 ай бұрын
Its gonna take quite some time see the Valve Index PPL are still waiting.
@Dionyzos
@Dionyzos 7 ай бұрын
SteamOS for other handhelds will be even more exciting than a new Steam Deck
@zenithquasar9623
@zenithquasar9623 7 ай бұрын
Steam Deck 1 is fine. You can always wait for better tech to arrive, but that's like a never ending cycle.
@danielhernanalonso7219
@danielhernanalonso7219 7 ай бұрын
Dont know if that will ever happen, i think that work is done for valve with steam deck.
@user-s8jb3qb6y
@user-s8jb3qb6y 7 ай бұрын
At the release of the Deck OLED in Nov 2023, Valve said the Deck successor is still "years away" because the technology (read: portable performance with low battery draw) doesn't exist. And looking at the latest gen 8840U over the Ally's 7840U, Valve aren't wrong; the 8840U is essentially the same chip but with a NPU which is pointless on a gaming handheld. That said, knowing Valve's release timing of the OLED, I would be looking at Nov 2025 to Nov 2026 window.
@alsjke786yOwilgq
@alsjke786yOwilgq 7 ай бұрын
Not playing russian roulette with ASUS RMA department.
@DistinctionDino
@DistinctionDino 7 ай бұрын
I feel you but I genuinely cannot remember the last time I sent any device for repair.
@alsjke786yOwilgq
@alsjke786yOwilgq 7 ай бұрын
@@DistinctionDino I still get flashbacks of trying to RMA my old Xiaomi phone due to headphone jack malfunction. Fuckers kept returning it, stating it's working. In the end I had to solder in a new one myself lol.
@sglowats6020
@sglowats6020 7 ай бұрын
I just had to send my Ally in for the microSD card reader failing. I’m hoping my experience is better than others that have reached out to people like Gamers Nexus.
@Cavscout101
@Cavscout101 7 ай бұрын
@@DistinctionDino edge cases bro we have to worry about the edge cases. 😂
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 7 ай бұрын
Maybe stop cooking for SD card reader. Zero reason to go above 30w tdp locked plugged in. You're just generating more heat
@OOOcannal
@OOOcannal 7 ай бұрын
Battery life is a real problem for gaming handhelds
@gagatai
@gagatai 7 ай бұрын
It’s like those android phone a decade ago. With powerful performance but super short battery life. Guess we have to wait a few more generations till it gets mature.
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 7 ай бұрын
Limitations of l-ion batteries
@-TriP-
@-TriP- 7 ай бұрын
for $30 you can get a 20,000mAh 65W power bank that's still quite small and should extend the battery life considerably
@bulletpunch9317
@bulletpunch9317 7 ай бұрын
Except the switch
@yibozhao1012
@yibozhao1012 7 ай бұрын
@@-TriP- by 0.5x at best, not 8x :)
@eliadbu
@eliadbu 7 ай бұрын
Careful not to nick the plastic! You will be charged for a screen replacement if you warranty your device for joystick replacement.
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 7 ай бұрын
You can just replace the joysticks yourself
@user-s8jb3qb6y
@user-s8jb3qb6y 7 ай бұрын
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 YOU can do it for everyone so no-one has to waste their own time and money on it.
@eliadbu
@eliadbu 7 ай бұрын
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 why should you if it's under "warranty" ?
@clownavenger0
@clownavenger0 7 ай бұрын
@@eliadbu its faster i guess.
@Hathos9
@Hathos9 7 ай бұрын
​@@eliadbu Because it is easily upgradeable and you might want hall effect joysticks.
@drewnewby
@drewnewby 7 ай бұрын
I've heard Rich say "rog" so many times, I'd forgotten it's R O G, according to Asus. We've got ourselves a Nvidia Ti situation here.
@damianabregba7476
@damianabregba7476 7 ай бұрын
They are wrong
@fireaza
@fireaza 7 ай бұрын
@@damianabregba7476 Where's the confusion? "Ti" is obviously pronounced as "Ti".
@smidlee7747
@smidlee7747 7 ай бұрын
I think you are splitting hairs here as Socom means The United States Special Operations Command
@Radek494
@Radek494 7 ай бұрын
​​@@fireazaSome Nvidia engineer was saying "Tie" in official videos 😂
@spiritualantiseptic
@spiritualantiseptic 7 ай бұрын
It hints to Rogue, doesn't it?
@DavidAddis
@DavidAddis 7 ай бұрын
I'm always happy to see improved, ahem, "Frame Health/Consistency"!
@michaeldidikof634
@michaeldidikof634 7 ай бұрын
Very happy with my Rog Ally. Waiting for Ally 2
@DelphineDofain
@DelphineDofain 7 ай бұрын
The Ally has everything a gamer wants: RGB LEDs, Windows 11, AI and tiny fans
@RedPillAlways
@RedPillAlways 7 ай бұрын
Not a 65-inch OLED nor PHYSICAL MEDIA. So stick with the PS5 + 65-inch C3 + Offline story driven single player games
@finraziel
@finraziel 7 ай бұрын
@@RedPillAlways 65 inch oled is a bit cumbersome to hold between my hands really...
@RedPillAlways
@RedPillAlways 7 ай бұрын
@finraziel mount it on something it works so much better
@fairphoneuser9009
@fairphoneuser9009 7 ай бұрын
​@@RedPillAlwaysYeah, like on a slave!
@squelching
@squelching 7 ай бұрын
@@RedPillAlways I see you're not very good at detecting jokes.
@DigiDonkey
@DigiDonkey 7 ай бұрын
I bought the OG Ally (extreme) the day they announced this. New battery and extra RAM was tempting, but I was able to pick a brand new one at half that UK price.
@thorocomments
@thorocomments 7 ай бұрын
I have an ally I’ve got less than a week to RMA, lol.
@christophermullins7163
@christophermullins7163 7 ай бұрын
Good luck. God speed.
@thebham95
@thebham95 7 ай бұрын
they extended it to two years
@noticeddamian
@noticeddamian 7 ай бұрын
@@thebham95I know they did in the states but is that also in uk?
@thorocomments
@thorocomments 7 ай бұрын
@@thebham95 oh, shit! Thanks for that!
@01devilsmilitia
@01devilsmilitia 7 ай бұрын
@@noticeddamian no, just the US which is a massive dick move for us in the UK
@tomkirbygreen
@tomkirbygreen 7 ай бұрын
After sales support… just saying.
@EBCHILL2
@EBCHILL2 7 ай бұрын
Yeah that's definitely a no deal for me
@Dr.D00p
@Dr.D00p 7 ай бұрын
In America, land of shit consumer protection laws...just saying.
@djtomoy
@djtomoy 7 ай бұрын
Don’t break it then
@vintageoriginallegit
@vintageoriginallegit 7 ай бұрын
What’s a better alternative cause all sales support sucks
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 7 ай бұрын
Consumers (cattle) have no protections
@jackcrouse6530
@jackcrouse6530 7 ай бұрын
Tech channels should stop accepting this bs. Show our device but actually don't show it. Yes you are free to talk about it but don't talk about it.
@LeRouxMashinrou
@LeRouxMashinrou 7 ай бұрын
you know theres a contract right? lol
@GIGAFATTYMON
@GIGAFATTYMON 7 ай бұрын
There's bound to be a full upgrade, new chipset, memory, screen, etc, probably around the 2 year point, don't see any point upgrading until then.
@ChristopherToro
@ChristopherToro 7 ай бұрын
I find it weird that there are so many restrictions with ROG Ally X overviews…
@bunglepanda
@bunglepanda 7 ай бұрын
Because ASUS are charging £250-300 more and your realistically going to get an additional 1-3fps in games. Pre-orderw aren't doing very well and they don't want it to get worse
@veridiux
@veridiux 7 ай бұрын
This isn't new... This happens with every tech device out there. They send devices out for influencers to test them, but they use the NDA to prevent people from putting any real information. The problem is during this phase the device is constantly changing. Performance may increase or even decrease, it's not the final product.
@jorismak
@jorismak 7 ай бұрын
​@@bunglepandasince it was never announced to be faster , I'm pleasantly surprised by the improvements the ram brings.
@bunglepanda
@bunglepanda 7 ай бұрын
​@@jorismakyes, but not worth an extra £300!!! That's insane
@ark_knight
@ark_knight 7 ай бұрын
@@bunglepanda just wait for it to drop.
@darmawanhabib204
@darmawanhabib204 7 ай бұрын
Looking at this my steam deck felt so ancient, I'm amazed by how fast handheld progressing
@fairphoneuser9009
@fairphoneuser9009 7 ай бұрын
Well, this one still has the same APU as the "old" ROG Ally. It's "just" a refinement of it.
@StrikerSenpai
@StrikerSenpai 7 ай бұрын
Staying away from ASUS for right now lol. Just bought a steam deck OLED!
@thedoomslayer108_YT
@thedoomslayer108_YT 7 ай бұрын
Their terrible customer service and forcing anyone to pay nearly $200 for a repair fee for the device's broken LCD panel and the top case, or sending it back broken, are unacceptable. I'm glad they're getting sued for their anti-consumer repair decisions. The Steam Deck OLED is an excellent choice. 👍
@vintageoriginallegit
@vintageoriginallegit 7 ай бұрын
But steam deck is so weak
@StrikerSenpai
@StrikerSenpai 7 ай бұрын
@@vintageoriginallegit I bought a ROG Ally at launch. First one came with a broken joystick. Second one was okay, but man I couldn’t stand the random things that would come up that made it janky at times. Don’t get me wrong, I love the way it looked and felt, plus the screen was awesome. However it just didn’t work out for me. Add on the rough support from ASUS, I’ll take less performance for better support along with excellent battery life for the games I’m going to play on it.
@StrikerSenpai
@StrikerSenpai 7 ай бұрын
@@thedoomslayer108_YT agreed. 👍 Just bought a 512 OLED and going to get the Killswitch case from Dbrand!
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 7 ай бұрын
How did you break the screen on your Ally?
@graveyarddead753
@graveyarddead753 7 ай бұрын
In your next benchmark video I’d love to see you guys test Baldur’s Gate 3 in Act 3 on both the original and X. Hopefully the speed and capacity increase helps with frame times there.
@IMZ44
@IMZ44 7 ай бұрын
Here's a better question. Did they improve the customer service?
@liviup6660
@liviup6660 7 ай бұрын
Ive never contacted customer service tbh....they all useless....but asus does good devices.....original ally needs a bit of modification to sort heat out but if you know how to do that you are absolutely GOLDEN.👊like i done mine
@SENATORPAIN1
@SENATORPAIN1 7 ай бұрын
If the switch 2 could run something like cyberpunk at a locked 30 medium graphics I'd be very happy for the switch 2s future.(Not saying cyberpunk should or would be on it but as a benchmark)
@epsileth
@epsileth 7 ай бұрын
Minor refresh to fix problems. Get the x if you want a windows handheld. If you're wary of the rma process, get a steam deck.
@JeremyPeeples
@JeremyPeeples 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see how big a jump has been made in so little time.
@repayne
@repayne 7 ай бұрын
The biggest problem with Windows handhelds ist still Windows OS. It is a resource hog, uses a non gamepad friendly UI and has abyssmal battery management.
@Kalviel
@Kalviel 7 ай бұрын
Had an rog ally. It really sucked. My sd card slot stopped working, controller was not good, battery life was nothing like advertised, no dedicated dock, no kickstand. Sold it and went with a legion go and damn it’s great!
@Tech2C
@Tech2C 7 ай бұрын
A VRAM benchmark video?
@MisterPikol
@MisterPikol 7 ай бұрын
huh ?
@selohcin
@selohcin 7 ай бұрын
What would he be benchmarking in such a video?
@gonzo4891
@gonzo4891 7 ай бұрын
I’ll comfortably wait for Legion Go 2 before I have upgrade my Legion Go.
@catch82
@catch82 7 ай бұрын
Really hard to go back to a 7 inch display after using the Go since November. Hoping (at least) 8 inch screens become the norm. And they might, with Nintendo using an 8 inch display on the next Switch.
@gonzo4891
@gonzo4891 7 ай бұрын
@@catch82 facts! And allegedly, the Go even makes for an exceptional Switch in itself to enjoy your titles on its 8 inch screen! 😂
@DJCJ999
@DJCJ999 7 ай бұрын
A lot of people bashing ROG for their rma… I bought a secondhand Ally from that pawn shop CEX in the uk.. obviously I wasn’t the og owner and I didn’t have the original bill of sale yet when I found my right trigger wasn’t registering a full press ROG collected, repaired and return my device in under 2 weeks!! It did have warranty with CEX but you know they wouldn’t honour a repair… so yeah.. no complaints about ROG from me. But now I want the X!! Not because it’s a huge update but because it’s an improvement on a machine I use a lot.
@Cavscout101
@Cavscout101 7 ай бұрын
How long until we can just build our own handheld PC?
@KayleighBourquin
@KayleighBourquin 7 ай бұрын
Can we build laptops yet?
@mightyhadi6132
@mightyhadi6132 7 ай бұрын
Probably never , even building our own laptop is still not mass market still very expensive and from how GPU market price is still unstable. Bad times for PC gamers . For now i am stick to consoles
@officerminiwheats
@officerminiwheats 7 ай бұрын
A guy did it already with framework it's on KZbin
@KayleighBourquin
@KayleighBourquin 7 ай бұрын
@@officerminiwheats A guy, one guy, did it. Truly a universally accessible and easy to do thing that we'll all be using now. 🙄
@NeroVingian40
@NeroVingian40 7 ай бұрын
@@KayleighBourquinyou might want to check what Framework Laptop really is. You can change and customize virtually everything on the laptop on your own (save for the processor and screen), most components are built to be upgradeable. And they are already selling this. In the future, we might actually see a laptop that we can actually build by ourselves.
@juanalvarado7794
@juanalvarado7794 7 ай бұрын
Ill wait for the XXX version. Hopefully by then there is a real performance Boost 😉 Shouldn't be long wait anyways since it seems they are releasing these things yearly
@Gshekela
@Gshekela 6 ай бұрын
ASUS rog ally x is the best-looking handheld. it only needs new Apu and bezels oled screen to be the best
@TMDTND
@TMDTND 7 ай бұрын
Everyone, DO NOT PRE-ORDER THIS!!!! I made the mistake of doing so with the original Ally. There will be many used ones selling for almost half the price. Plus, we have no idea if they are still lying about the battery life.
@michaelgrahamjr.9605
@michaelgrahamjr.9605 7 ай бұрын
Stop telling secrets
@eggamyer3371
@eggamyer3371 7 ай бұрын
until games run at a minimum 60+ fps I'm holding out, but this is still incredible can't wait to see what comes next!
@jon....
@jon.... 7 ай бұрын
What does this mean? You're waiting for a handheld that can play new games at 60 FPS? Well you're going to be waiting perpetually because that is never going to happen.
@The_Cadaver
@The_Cadaver 7 ай бұрын
I'm still waiting for these companies to figure out a competent controller. They're basically glorified tablets strapped to MadCatz controllers at this point.
@steel5897
@steel5897 7 ай бұрын
@@jon.... It can happen with frame generation, but that's about it. Battery life is the #1 problem, no doubt they'll want to solve that before they even think about increasing performance on modern games.
@cezarstefanseghjucan
@cezarstefanseghjucan 7 ай бұрын
@@jon....No one should buy stuff that don’t play game at 60 FPS.
@jon....
@jon.... 7 ай бұрын
@@cezarstefanseghjucan Is 60 FPS the only thing you care about? Because there are a lot of unique qualities about portable gaming machines that make their performance basically irrelevant.
@jcarloz0
@jcarloz0 6 ай бұрын
Ally/Ally X are not the only handhelds with 120hz VRR. The GPD Win Mini 2024 also has the same display.
@ChrisCheeseBrown
@ChrisCheeseBrown 6 ай бұрын
Ordered a refurb ally z1x for 380. Hasn't broke the bank and I will mostly be near power source. Looking forward to it.
@AndyGilleand
@AndyGilleand 7 ай бұрын
As an owner of a ROG Phone, I definitely don't pronounce it as R.O.G. 😂
@Gingerlion777
@Gingerlion777 7 ай бұрын
And next year they release another one.. don't get me wrong! I like my ally. But I like the way steam does things better! Release something and actually stick with it and work on it! We really need to stop the (release a new device every year) trend! It's consumerism at its finest! The strategy with this is that we hold back stuff for the next device next year.. instead of making a device the best it can be! Because they want it to last a couple years.
@YouCanCallMeMich
@YouCanCallMeMich 7 ай бұрын
I have the main 3 handhelds out there and my Legion Go will be more than enough before the SD2 comes out. Best handheld out there right now
@gonzo4891
@gonzo4891 7 ай бұрын
Hands down!
@Shadowtron1221
@Shadowtron1221 7 ай бұрын
The only thing I need to know is if the speakers are the same. Because my God did they sound amazing on the original Ally!
@thebham95
@thebham95 7 ай бұрын
love my ally, looking forward so much to the ally x. if you are a windows power user you can tweak this to be an insane handheld to dock experience. guara tee anyone would look at the way I configured my ally and think it the best handheld ever
@firstclaims30
@firstclaims30 7 ай бұрын
I love my Rog ally. Best handheld ever made. How did you configure yours ?
@hiramabiff604
@hiramabiff604 7 ай бұрын
Okay asus marketing director.
@thebham95
@thebham95 7 ай бұрын
@@firstclaims30 first I use ntlite to debloat windows of unnecessary bloatware or services (advanced tool so ease into it), then I use playnite for my frontend (customized myself via open source themes), rewasd so I can group ally gamepad with external gamepad for seamless docking switch experience(allows for more intricate mapping between various platforms and macros) , intelligent memory cleaner to keep memory free as possible. also I only use armoury crate to set game profiles for each dock and handheld profile for performance tdp usage. I love booting up my ally on my TV using a dual shock 3 to play my PS1/2 emulated games, then pull the out of dock and seamlessly go in right into handheld play. in playnite I've customized hundreds of games to have perfectly scaled and performance backgrounds, logos, and icons, plugins to give me extra stats on home screens , boot into game screens. it looks and feels like professional switch PC experience
@thebham95
@thebham95 7 ай бұрын
@@hiramabiff604 nah just a genuine fan and enjoyer of the ally. my favorite tech device ever so far. been building and power using Windows PCs for over twenty years. this device been the dream and now it's a reality.
@tipsy634
@tipsy634 7 ай бұрын
its cool that you like your rog ally but you should not rush to get the upgraded version if asus are banning people from talking about how underwhelming it is
@smoothlyrough512
@smoothlyrough512 7 ай бұрын
Not letting bench marks or is shady. What they hiding? I'd it was good, you'd WANT people knowing this. This kills my hype big time
@ninele7
@ninele7 7 ай бұрын
They want all channels to have enough time to do benchmarks and release them at the same time, so when benchmarks are available you can understand bigger picture looking at multiple reviews.
@FSAPOJake
@FSAPOJake 7 ай бұрын
We already know how the original Ally performs. This will be the exact same except for a lower chance of a RAM bottleneck.
@thebham95
@thebham95 7 ай бұрын
because more vram. is not going to give you that much of a fps boost in many scenarios. what it will allow is for more games to be compatible at base level
@firstclaims30
@firstclaims30 7 ай бұрын
They did the same with the og ally kid
@MrNelahem
@MrNelahem 7 ай бұрын
@@ninele7 they are also probably still working on firmware tweaks.
@iisdashik
@iisdashik 7 ай бұрын
Any chance you guys could evaluate the Ally with the XG Mobile eGPU? I believe the Ally X lets use m,ore 3rd party eGPUs with thunderbolt so really keen how Ally vs Ally X looks with eGPU
@jorismak
@jorismak 7 ай бұрын
Xg mobile isn't really a realistic thing. They are seldom in stock, and crazy expensive for what you get (a mobile version of a gpu , with whiny fans for more than a 4090)
@BatteryBee
@BatteryBee 7 ай бұрын
Appreciate the testing, but ASUS can get in the bin. Their customer service record is atrocious.
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 7 ай бұрын
If you were the customer, you wouldn't be called a consumer
@BatteryBee
@BatteryBee 7 ай бұрын
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 ASUS need the money from us "consumers" to do anything, which is why they scrambled so hard when Gamers Nexus broke the story about the mountain of warranty and customer service issues.
@jorismak
@jorismak 7 ай бұрын
Again, *taps the sign* , split the usa ,eu and other regions please. Completely different companies. Eu service and rma handling has been fine.
@V3ntilator
@V3ntilator 7 ай бұрын
I will stick with my Legion Go PC Handheld. It doesn't matter how good Steam OS is, because i need Windows on a handheld for many reasons including superior compatibility vs Steam OS. No game needs certification on Windows handhelds as they are basically handheld laptops.
@IgrowWY
@IgrowWY 7 ай бұрын
Bro , in Armory carte you Can select how much ram Should be used for each game
@Saif0412
@Saif0412 7 ай бұрын
Waiting to full review and benchmarks but pretty sure the Rog Ally X will be the best performing handheld so far.
@Kev84M
@Kev84M 7 ай бұрын
Would never consider a handheld without Touchpads after using deck.
@ralphengland8559
@ralphengland8559 7 ай бұрын
That was my fear in buying the Ally. But so far, the lack of touch pads hasn't been a problem for the games I'm playing.
@kylerclarke2689
@kylerclarke2689 7 ай бұрын
The problem is how often you have to interact with the desktop and how intrinsically inconvenient sticks are for that.
@user-s8jb3qb6y
@user-s8jb3qb6y 7 ай бұрын
Some people can't go without trackpads and some never touch them! I wish there were two SKUs of the Deck, one with touchpads and one without that's not as wide.
@FierroSev
@FierroSev 7 ай бұрын
​@kylerclarke2689 it is touchscreen.
@vintageoriginallegit
@vintageoriginallegit 7 ай бұрын
Steam deck is trash power now
@andrekohler5792
@andrekohler5792 7 ай бұрын
How silent is silent mode now? Does the right fan still make that little 1300 Hz noise?
@Zer0_Space
@Zer0_Space 7 ай бұрын
FPS displayed in The Wrap Up section for SpiderMan 🤓
@mateusvilela8129
@mateusvilela8129 7 ай бұрын
We need fsr 3.1 testing, dlss no longer a selling point is a big deal
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 7 ай бұрын
No, we don't need sub native resolution games. We need optimized games
@mateusvilela8129
@mateusvilela8129 7 ай бұрын
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 speak for yourself, upscaling tech is important wether you like it or not
@crestofhonor2349
@crestofhonor2349 7 ай бұрын
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271upscaling is here to stay and it’s not bad at all especially when you have a smaller display or a large display with a high resolution
@jorismak
@jorismak 7 ай бұрын
Alex said he wanted to do a video about it, but they had to finish ongoing projects first.
@mateusvilela8129
@mateusvilela8129 7 ай бұрын
@@jorismak shame, its going to take a while then
@ShroomAndGloomGaming
@ShroomAndGloomGaming 7 ай бұрын
Man I really want to pull the trigger on this one but I will kick myself if the Claw 8 AI matches or outperforms it. I want that 8inch vrr screen.
@WillySou
@WillySou 7 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍 I hope that was the last "Rog... I'm sorry ROG" joke though 😂
@Viper9One
@Viper9One 7 ай бұрын
Owning the OG Ally you would think ASUS would want reviewers to speak about performance considering that's the only reason to upgrade. Guess I just won't upgrade lol
@fresco_dinero5155
@fresco_dinero5155 7 ай бұрын
The ally x fixed everything that the OG ally fell short on, and the OG ally barely fell short on everything. This plus the continuous armory crate and updates, many that improve performance. Currently have a OG ally and I will keep it for now but in a year or so, if I can get a Ally X for like $500 or less I p will definitely make the switch, or the Ally 2 ofc
@NordicMeatShield
@NordicMeatShield 7 ай бұрын
The first Ally runs star citizen to some degree, id like to see how this X version compares
@LiteraryCurtastrophe
@LiteraryCurtastrophe 7 ай бұрын
I have the original, my SD card reader doesn't work, and even though the Ally X is exactly what I would have wanted from the start, the only way I'm dropping another grand on a handheld is if I win the lottery. I have too many of these handhelds already and not the income to justify it. Obviously my own problem, but also with Asus going from my favourite and most trusted hardware company to being completely skeptical to distrusting of them has really been disappointing
@jake..A
@jake..A 7 ай бұрын
All they needed was to add an oled screen & this would have been the best handheld device on the market currently.
@ferdgerbeler8494
@ferdgerbeler8494 7 ай бұрын
Naw, still has the ASUS name on it, making it one of the worst.
@prestin5304
@prestin5304 7 ай бұрын
I'd say it IS the best handheld device on the market spec wise and arguably the best performer. At the moment I'm waiting on what Lenovo does with GO Lite thats rumored. But the Ally X sure looks like the best performer with the the faster ram and added 8gb. Buttery smooth
@crestofhonor2349
@crestofhonor2349 7 ай бұрын
@@ferdgerbeler8494still has much better support than the Legion Go
@ARCtheIsmaster
@ARCtheIsmaster 6 ай бұрын
if we could natively access our xbox library on this, I would buy it in a heartbeat
@kayser91
@kayser91 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video and those nice "predictions" :p
@ParadoxalDream
@ParadoxalDream 7 ай бұрын
I don't know if a native VRR screen for Switch 2 is a realistic expectation from Nintendo, but I'd sure like that very much.
@smidlee7747
@smidlee7747 7 ай бұрын
VRR and OLED doesn't mix so well. Also the vast majority of gamers will not care about VRR while the difference with OLED can be seen. Nintendo doesn't seem to care to make their handheld for the tiny minority. I have no trouble docking my laptop with VRR to my 65" LCD TV (no VRR) in my bedroom and have a good time and not thinking about frame rate , VRR nor even how fruity the colors are. I do have a OLED TV but I still game a lot on my LCD TV. Even the cheap LCD TV looks good.
@Radek494
@Radek494 7 ай бұрын
​@@smidlee7747Switch 2 is rumoured to be LCD not OLED
@smidlee7747
@smidlee7747 7 ай бұрын
@@Radek494 My point was the average person would notice the difference between LCD from OLED more than VRR. Nintendo would go with OLED before they care about VRR.
@Radek494
@Radek494 7 ай бұрын
@@smidlee7747 Ah okay I see now
@ParadoxalDream
@ParadoxalDream 7 ай бұрын
@@smidlee7747 We're not even sure in the new system will have an OLED screen, the first leaks only mentioned LCD.
@BrianWood74
@BrianWood74 7 ай бұрын
It's ASUS, that's all I need to know.
@MansaMusa50
@MansaMusa50 7 ай бұрын
Was thinking of picking up a rog ally x, but wanted to see what microsoft have in store for their handheld first. I've got an Asus gaming laptop and have had no issues with it at all.
@fillerbunnyninjashark271
@fillerbunnyninjashark271 7 ай бұрын
It comes with gamepass... It is an Xbox handheld
@smidlee7747
@smidlee7747 7 ай бұрын
Note PC gamepass sometimes lack certain features that the same PC game have in other stores. It crazy to think developers have to do extra work just to get dlss amd fsr support to work with gamepass on Windows. You can't even use remote play on Windows on gamepass. Microsoft major cash doesn't come from gaming and it shows.
@MansaMusa50
@MansaMusa50 7 ай бұрын
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 yeah just waiting for more info on it. It's needs to be able to play games downloaded on the device as well as cloud in my opinion.
@MansaMusa50
@MansaMusa50 7 ай бұрын
@@smidlee7747 yeah I've always thought that was both strange a s slightly annoying. The gamepass version is often not like the steam version.
@TEk0n
@TEk0n 7 ай бұрын
For me there are just way too many drawbacks for running Windows in a portable handheld gaming machine, from a user experience perspective and battery efficiency. Gonna wait for the Steam Deck 2 (gonna be waiting a while)
@jsullivan2112
@jsullivan2112 7 ай бұрын
Looking pretty good! Still not quite there for me to buy one, mostly based on docked FPS performance, but it's promising. Maybe the next generation will be the one for me. I'll have to see what Valve has to offer with a Steam Deck 2 though.
@overwatch761
@overwatch761 7 ай бұрын
Meh, more than happy with my OG Steam Deck LCD model until the next gen.
@cezarstefanseghjucan
@cezarstefanseghjucan 7 ай бұрын
LCD is crap.
@TMDTND
@TMDTND 7 ай бұрын
@@cezarstefanseghjucan It is not.
@protocetid
@protocetid 7 ай бұрын
look at all the FOMO ridden people pestering those who are happy with what they have lol, an annoying thing about PC gaming is the techies who shame you for not having the latest and greatest
@thismichael
@thismichael 7 ай бұрын
Would you recommend the steam deck or new ROG Ally X?
@mikelujanable
@mikelujanable 7 ай бұрын
My nintendo swith only once ever ran low on batteries. That was on a cross country flight with a long layover.
@battlepowered
@battlepowered 7 ай бұрын
I'm interested in seeing the Ally X set to Auto mode. With the current ROG Ally, it gets some of the best performance when set to Auto because it can fluctuate higher or lower than 8gb of 16gb as needed.. Now it's cooking with 24gb.
@01devilsmilitia
@01devilsmilitia 7 ай бұрын
ive never bothered with auto, i just set mine to 8GB on the Z1 Extreme when i had it, now would you recommend i simply leave my X on auto?
@baked7423
@baked7423 7 ай бұрын
if this had an OLED it would be a steal
@DistinctionDino
@DistinctionDino 7 ай бұрын
Pretty excited for this I love the steam deck but sometimes it just doesn't fit the bill especially since I now have bazzite os dual booted on the my Rog ally almost my perfect portable pc gaming handheld.
@GlassICE
@GlassICE 7 ай бұрын
Honestly i was expecting an OLED screen plus less bezels than the other factors which made more sense duo to steam and Nintendo released their own version of refresh handhelds with this option
@smidlee7747
@smidlee7747 7 ай бұрын
It makes sense why they didn't go with OLED. OLED cost a lot of money to engineer which explains why Nintendo and Valve used OLED already engineered for tablets and phones. These screen are portrait and not landscape screens which meant no VRR. Ally fans preach VRR is a must. Portrait screen causes problem with older PC titles design to run landscape. Steam Deck has a work around due to Linux. Also VRR on OLED don't mix well sometimes causes flickering.
@LIAGWP
@LIAGWP 7 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for the Real Asus Rog Ally 2
@squelching
@squelching 7 ай бұрын
Hmm, I think I'll stick to me Steam Deck OLED. I only really play AA and smaller games, so it's pretty much perfect. AAA games very rarely interest me.
@smidlee7747
@smidlee7747 7 ай бұрын
Also it seems there are going to be less triple A titles in the near future. They are getting too long and expensive to develop making them too risky.
@squelching
@squelching 7 ай бұрын
@@smidlee7747 I certainly hope so. It's very rare I'm impressed by anything high budget nowadays.
@protocetid
@protocetid 7 ай бұрын
smidlee7747 The shift away from cutting edge graphics is a strong case for an AMD or Intel smartphone, or at least a pocketable handheld PC that trades off performance for size and battery life. It’s going to be weaker than handheld PCs, yet it won’t really matter because AAA games are dwindling.
@01devilsmilitia
@01devilsmilitia 7 ай бұрын
now how about a comparison between the EXTREME version and the X. y'know, the one that folk will be upgrading FROM
@jpquinn4550
@jpquinn4550 7 ай бұрын
Is there any way to up the VRAM to 10GB VRam? So instead of changing it to 8GB VRAM it’s 10GB VRAM? And have you tried debloating windows? To see if you can get even better results?
@TheAce1991x
@TheAce1991x 7 ай бұрын
Asus should of made two models like the originals for people who don't want to spend the full $800 on a handheld system. Ally x 1tb z1 extreme $799 Ally x 1tb z1 non extreme $649
@thelibra101219
@thelibra101219 7 ай бұрын
To be honest... I am very glad that this is not OLED. My eyes (and about about 2% of the population) are unable to use OLED due to sensitivity to something called PWM flickering. As OLED screens are still taking over handhelds, I don't think there are enough people who complained about this issue yet. There is no cure, settings, or resolution that I know of. A few minutes, my eyes would start to feel "off"... and then they will start to hurt a lot... afterwards, i would have a headache, and feel nauseous -- all within about 15 minutes or less. If I don't stop, my eyes would hurt or remain sensitive for days afterwards. I am guessing that this will be my last handheld for a long time as everyone and their mom wants OLED and ASUS will surely switch to OLED in the future.
@yumo
@yumo Ай бұрын
Rich used every trick in the book. Lmao @ the frame time graph
@ViolenceCity
@ViolenceCity 7 ай бұрын
That price is crazy.
@nicolasbonvarlet338
@nicolasbonvarlet338 7 ай бұрын
The OLED screen is really a big missed opportunity. Guess the battery life would have been even better with it :/
@MicaelAzevedo
@MicaelAzevedo 7 ай бұрын
You either choose Oled or VRR. A true gamer chooses VRR.
@nicolasbonvarlet338
@nicolasbonvarlet338 7 ай бұрын
@@MicaelAzevedo why not both ? And what is a "true gamer" ?
@jorismak
@jorismak 7 ай бұрын
​@@nicolasbonvarlet338because oled can't do vrr in a good way , without brightness flickering. And I think there simply had to be a panel available for them to buy, that they trust , and has the specs they want. The fact that the Steam Deck oled and the switch oled are using the exact same panel, shows that there isn't much to pick from in that size / form factor.
@rhysjones8506
@rhysjones8506 7 ай бұрын
​@@MicaelAzevedonah it depends. If you have the best pc money can buy. You don't need vrr as your pc can get you a good locked FPS. And in most games outside competitive after 120fps isn't it better to just get a better picture. A HDR oled screen can look absolutely amazing
@MicaelAzevedo
@MicaelAzevedo 7 ай бұрын
@@rhysjones8506 we are talking about handled devices lol
@vanceg4901
@vanceg4901 7 ай бұрын
Hope they increased the stick tension from the floppy 45 grams or so in the vanilla ROG.
@Oscar.AnangeloftheLord.Perez.1
@Oscar.AnangeloftheLord.Perez.1 4 ай бұрын
I see in BestBuy the Rog Ally X has 4GB of v ram, is this correct? Does the BestBuy Rog Ally X have 8GB of vram or 4GB of vram?
@lewis9973
@lewis9973 7 ай бұрын
ANNND the SteamDeck OLED is still the best option... awkward.
@captaincrunch7944
@captaincrunch7944 7 ай бұрын
i guess the real question is who would buy the original knowing that it has half the battery life half the memory
@criticalgeek3914
@criticalgeek3914 7 ай бұрын
In sweden you get an oled 512gb steam deck for the price of the z1 extreme and the legion go (around 1000 USD, we got environmental taxes on electronics). But since we still can order from valve directly and pay 549 USD for the Oled, You cant beat the price to quality. Not even close.
@firstclaims30
@firstclaims30 7 ай бұрын
Rog ally is next level compared to the steamdeck. Better than a steamdeck in pretty much everything
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 7 ай бұрын
I'd like to know what it's like plugged into the mains and into a TV (like one would use a Switch). How quickly it recharges would be useful to know too.
@andyandy6525
@andyandy6525 7 ай бұрын
What about 6gb VRam for Avatar? Could you check please if there is still winning difference between ally and ally x? Nice video, thank you!
@ansyarh5747
@ansyarh5747 7 ай бұрын
About battery? Is double ?
@Inv4sorZ
@Inv4sorZ 7 ай бұрын
This will be my only hardware, along with a 7600m egpu and a Quest 3. Just hoping to see more PS exclusives coming to PC and it to hold VR and 1440p high properly.
@TaimatCR
@TaimatCR 7 ай бұрын
I'm really interested in the zotac one due to the oled screen, as a steam deck 2 seems a couple of years away
@dannypassion
@dannypassion 7 ай бұрын
Writing on update thats why benchmarking won't make scenes to talk about it now..
@AndreAckermann
@AndreAckermann 7 ай бұрын
I see no benches marked here
@SpikePulse
@SpikePulse 7 ай бұрын
That's rediculous, send a review unit to DIGITAL FOUNDRY and don't allow them to benmark it
@thatoseale8973
@thatoseale8973 7 ай бұрын
I really wish Dell/Alienware and Razer could enter the handheld space. Alienware actually were the first to preview a pc handheld with the UFO but didn’t put it into production. What a shame cause they actually have decent support unlike ASUS.
@decegrease
@decegrease 7 ай бұрын
Tbh these handheld PCs arent quite there for me yet. I'll rock my Odin 2 for now
@dvdmike007
@dvdmike007 7 ай бұрын
Citing LTT, the decline of DF continues
@weiyu-so6ov
@weiyu-so6ov 5 ай бұрын
Has the rog x fixed the sd problem
@nileredsexperiment834
@nileredsexperiment834 7 ай бұрын
What i hate about this new Ally X is that they took off the XGM Port. Kind of a dealbreaker tbh.
@Killer-ne7cm
@Killer-ne7cm 7 ай бұрын
As a owner of the original Asus rog Ally with no issues can the battery be swap with the new one or is it different size?
@jorismak
@jorismak 7 ай бұрын
Different housing, different layout of internals , different battery. It's basically a design of the ally , focusing on room for battery.
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