Asus ROG Ally X Hands-On vs Asus ROG Ally - What's New & What It Means For Gaming

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The Asus ROG Ally was the first Zen 4/RDNA 3 handheld, delivering superior performance vs Steam Deck - and now, there's a ROG Ally X. The same core processor and display remain, but virtually everything else has improved - with a doubling of battery capacity and a bump to 24GB of LPDDR5X delivering an improved experience. Rich has been hands-on and this is his report.
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00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:14 ROG Ally X vs ROG Ally - Tech Specs
00:01:43 Faster Memory & More Memory Matter
00:03:03 2x Battery Capacity
00:04:53 ROG Ally X Changes: Inside & Out
00:07:57 Z1 Extreme + 24GB Performance - What To Expect
00:08:33 Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora - 24GB Is Game-Changing
00:11:04 The Wrap-Up
00:12:46 And Now, The Conclusion

[@MINUANOGAMING]

Asus: Don't benchmark it. Linus: It was revealed to me in a dream that it runs like this. Rich: Look at this frametime graph!

[@m0ntypth0n]

😂

[@SpentAmbitionDrain]

Linus is a ad peddler.

[@loldoctor]

@@SpentAmbitionDrainwhich is a shame because he has some really knowledgeable staff. They just don’t have the time or opportunity to share that knowledge

[@V3ntilator]

@@SpentAmbitionDrain Linus: "Hear me out". PS Portal from Sony makes much more sense than you think... Meanwhile the rest of the world didn't think it made sense for the right reasons. Then you have IGN who gave the same score on both PS Portal and Asus Rog Ally...

[@vtg1800]

Handheld bas for gaming, under 60fps with lower resolution 720P. This very uncomfortable

[@AmicusRyelei]

"Please review our new thing but, also, don't review it."

[@user-ds8rj2vc4v]

Weird, as you'd think the massive improvements are the main selling points. And tbh, they could do with any good publicity right now.

[@criticalgeek3914]

It is sus indeed. I was going to wait for the ally X, to see if I should get it over the steam deck oled. But since the "reviews with embargoes, and cant talk about numbers"...guess who just got an steam deck oled yesterday 😅

[@lamontieverett4949]

Thats a great point im going to get the x but it will be my first hand held since the psp but i been thinking i may get and x and a steamdeck soon after because the steamdeck is the closest to perfect but the x has more performance

[@user-ds8rj2vc4v]

@@lamontieverett4949 The X willy have better performance and battery life. But it will also cost almost twice the price of the OLED 512GB. The OLED 512GB will have a better screen and software. You could always buy the Deck OLED 512GB now, use it for a year and then just wait for the next revision of the Ally X.

[@clownavenger0]

@@criticalgeek3914 The Steam Deck OLED is just a better mobile device. I won't be playing a AAA FPS or Alan Wake on a mobile gaming PC anyway. I will play games like Bloodstained which look amazing on an OLED screen.

[@user-wx9mh1qe2b]

Not playing russian roulette with ASUS RMA department.

[@DistinctionDino]

I feel you but I genuinely cannot remember the last time I sent any device for repair.

[@user-wx9mh1qe2b]

@@DistinctionDino I still get flashbacks of trying to RMA my old Xiaomi phone due to headphone jack malfunction. Fuckers kept returning it, stating it's working. In the end I had to solder in a new one myself lol.

[@sglowats6020]

I just had to send my Ally in for the microSD card reader failing. I’m hoping my experience is better than others that have reached out to people like Gamers Nexus.

[@Cavscout101]

@@DistinctionDino edge cases bro we have to worry about the edge cases. 😂

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

Maybe stop cooking for SD card reader. Zero reason to go above 30w tdp locked plugged in. You're just generating more heat

[@grimdicer152]

Patiently waiting for the Steam Deck 2

[@animationmann6612]

Its gonna take quite some time see the Valve Index PPL are still waiting.

[@Dionyzos]

SteamOS for other handhelds will be even more exciting than a new Steam Deck

[@zenithquasar9623]

Steam Deck 1 is fine. You can always wait for better tech to arrive, but that's like a never ending cycle.

[@danielhernanalonso7219]

Dont know if that will ever happen, i think that work is done for valve with steam deck.

[@user-s8jb3qb6y]

At the release of the Deck OLED in Nov 2023, Valve said the Deck successor is still "years away" because the technology (read: portable performance with low battery draw) doesn't exist. And looking at the latest gen 8840U over the Ally's 7840U, Valve aren't wrong; the 8840U is essentially the same chip but with a NPU which is pointless on a gaming handheld. That said, knowing Valve's release timing of the OLED, I would be looking at Nov 2025 to Nov 2026 window.

[@anonony9081]

Sorry you looked at it wrong, we can't honor the warranty...

[@V3ntilator]

I never had anything from Asus that broke, so i don't know. I bought a Lenovo Legion PC Handheld instead and they honor warranties.

[@deadlock_problem]

@@V3ntilator have you missed the past month?

[@V3ntilator]

@@deadlock_problem Missed what?

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

@@V3ntilator The issues regarding Asus's way of honoring warrenty. Gamer's Nexus covered this ^^

[@atomickaiser1934]

​@@V3ntilatoroh you sweet summer child

[@OOOcannal]

Battery life is a real problem for gaming handhelds

[@gagatai]

It’s like those android phone a decade ago. With powerful performance but super short battery life. Guess we have to wait a few more generations till it gets mature.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

Limitations of l-ion batteries

[@-TriP-]

for $30 you can get a 20,000mAh 65W power bank that's still quite small and should extend the battery life considerably

[@bulletpunch9317]

Except the switch

[@yibozhao1012]

@@-TriP- by 0.5x at best, not 8x :)

[@eliadbu]

Careful not to nick the plastic! You will be charged for a screen replacement if you warranty your device for joystick replacement.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

You can just replace the joysticks yourself

[@user-s8jb3qb6y]

@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 YOU can do it for everyone so no-one has to waste their own time and money on it.

[@eliadbu]

@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 why should you if it's under "warranty" ?

[@clownavenger0]

@@eliadbu its faster i guess.

[@Hathos9]

​@@eliadbu Because it is easily upgradeable and you might want hall effect joysticks.

[@jackcrouse6530]

Tech channels should stop accepting this bs. Show our device but actually don't show it. Yes you are free to talk about it but don't talk about it.

[@LeRouxMashinrou]

you know theres a contract right? lol

[@drewnewby]

I've heard Rich say "rog" so many times, I'd forgotten it's R O G, according to Asus. We've got ourselves a Nvidia Ti situation here.

[@damianabregba7476]

They are wrong

[@fireaza]

@@damianabregba7476 Where's the confusion? "Ti" is obviously pronounced as "Ti".

[@smidlee7747]

I think you are splitting hairs here as Socom means The United States Special Operations Command

[@Radek494]

​​@@fireazaSome Nvidia engineer was saying "Tie" in official videos 😂

[@spiritualantiseptic]

It hints to Rogue, doesn't it?

[@DavidAddis]

I'm always happy to see improved, ahem, "Frame Health/Consistency"!

[@DigiDonkey]

I bought the OG Ally (extreme) the day they announced this. New battery and extra RAM was tempting, but I was able to pick a brand new one at half that UK price.

[@GIGAFATTYMON]

There's bound to be a full upgrade, new chipset, memory, screen, etc, probably around the 2 year point, don't see any point upgrading until then.

[@graveyarddead753]

In your next benchmark video I’d love to see you guys test Baldur’s Gate 3 in Act 3 on both the original and X. Hopefully the speed and capacity increase helps with frame times there.

[@michaeldidikof634]

Very happy with my Rog Ally. Waiting for Ally 2

[@thorocomments817]

I have an ally I’ve got less than a week to RMA, lol.

[@christophermullins7163]

Good luck. God speed.

[@thebham95]

they extended it to two years

[@noticeddamian]

@@thebham95I know they did in the states but is that also in uk?

[@thorocomments817]

@@thebham95 oh, shit! Thanks for that!

[@01devilsmilitia]

@@noticeddamian no, just the US which is a massive dick move for us in the UK

[@kayser91]

Thank you for this video and those nice "predictions" :p

[@DelphineDofain]

The Ally has everything a gamer wants: RGB LEDs, Windows 11, AI and tiny fans

[@RedPillAlways]

Not a 65-inch OLED nor PHYSICAL MEDIA. So stick with the PS5 + 65-inch C3 + Offline story driven single player games

[@finraziel]

@@RedPillAlways 65 inch oled is a bit cumbersome to hold between my hands really...

[@RedPillAlways]

@finraziel mount it on something it works so much better

[@fairphoneuser9009]

​@@RedPillAlwaysYeah, like on a slave!

[@squelching]

@@RedPillAlways I see you're not very good at detecting jokes.

[@iisdashik]

Any chance you guys could evaluate the Ally with the XG Mobile eGPU? I believe the Ally X lets use m,ore 3rd party eGPUs with thunderbolt so really keen how Ally vs Ally X looks with eGPU

[@jorismak]

Xg mobile isn't really a realistic thing. They are seldom in stock, and crazy expensive for what you get (a mobile version of a gpu , with whiny fans for more than a 4090)

[@IMZ44]

Here's a better question. Did they improve the customer service?

[@liviup6660]

Ive never contacted customer service tbh....they all useless....but asus does good devices.....original ally needs a bit of modification to sort heat out but if you know how to do that you are absolutely GOLDEN.👊like i done mine

[@ChristopherToro]

I find it weird that there are so many restrictions with ROG Ally X overviews…

[@bunglepanda]

Because ASUS are charging £250-300 more and your realistically going to get an additional 1-3fps in games. Pre-orderw aren't doing very well and they don't want it to get worse

[@veridiux]

This isn't new... This happens with every tech device out there. They send devices out for influencers to test them, but they use the NDA to prevent people from putting any real information. The problem is during this phase the device is constantly changing. Performance may increase or even decrease, it's not the final product.

[@jorismak]

​@@bunglepandasince it was never announced to be faster , I'm pleasantly surprised by the improvements the ram brings.

[@bunglepanda]

​@@jorismakyes, but not worth an extra £300!!! That's insane

[@ark_knight]

@@bunglepanda just wait for it to drop.

[@SENATORPAIN1]

If the switch 2 could run something like cyberpunk at a locked 30 medium graphics I'd be very happy for the switch 2s future.(Not saying cyberpunk should or would be on it but as a benchmark)

[@epsileth]

Minor refresh to fix problems. Get the x if you want a windows handheld. If you're wary of the rma process, get a steam deck.

[@battlepowered]

I'm interested in seeing the Ally X set to Auto mode. With the current ROG Ally, it gets some of the best performance when set to Auto because it can fluctuate higher or lower than 8gb of 16gb as needed.. Now it's cooking with 24gb.

[@01devilsmilitia]

ive never bothered with auto, i just set mine to 8GB on the Z1 Extreme when i had it, now would you recommend i simply leave my X on auto?

[@juanalvarado7794]

Ill wait for the XXX version. Hopefully by then there is a real performance Boost 😉 Shouldn't be long wait anyways since it seems they are releasing these things yearly

[@JeremyPeeples]

I'm glad to see how big a jump has been made in so little time.

[@WillySou]

Thanks 👍 I hope that was the last "Rog... I'm sorry ROG" joke though 😂

[@StrikerSenpai]

Staying away from ASUS for right now lol. Just bought a steam deck OLED!

[@thedoomslayer108_YT]

Their terrible customer service and forcing anyone to pay nearly $200 for a repair fee for the device's broken LCD panel and the top case, or sending it back broken, are unacceptable. I'm glad they're getting sued for their anti-consumer repair decisions. The Steam Deck OLED is an excellent choice. 👍

[@vintageoriginallegit]

But steam deck is so weak

[@StrikerSenpai]

@@vintageoriginallegit I bought a ROG Ally at launch. First one came with a broken joystick. Second one was okay, but man I couldn’t stand the random things that would come up that made it janky at times. Don’t get me wrong, I love the way it looked and felt, plus the screen was awesome. However it just didn’t work out for me. Add on the rough support from ASUS, I’ll take less performance for better support along with excellent battery life for the games I’m going to play on it.

[@StrikerSenpai]

@@thedoomslayer108_YT agreed. 👍 Just bought a 512 OLED and going to get the Killswitch case from Dbrand!

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

How did you break the screen on your Ally?

[@repayne]

The biggest problem with Windows handhelds ist still Windows OS. It is a resource hog, uses a non gamepad friendly UI and has abyssmal battery management.

[@jsullivan2112]

Looking pretty good! Still not quite there for me to buy one, mostly based on docked FPS performance, but it's promising. Maybe the next generation will be the one for me. I'll have to see what Valve has to offer with a Steam Deck 2 though.

[@andrekohler5792]

How silent is silent mode now? Does the right fan still make that little 1300 Hz noise?

[@ChrisCheeseBrown]

Ordered a refurb ally z1x for 380. Hasn't broke the bank and I will mostly be near power source. Looking forward to it.

[@PeT__eR]

Bro , in Armory carte you Can select how much ram Should be used for each game

[@kevinl3626]

Had an rog ally. It really sucked. My sd card slot stopped working, controller was not good, battery life was nothing like advertised, no dedicated dock, no kickstand. Sold it and went with a legion go and damn it’s great!

[@CombatMonkey11B]

I wonder when the embargo will lift? I expect an average of 5fps increase in most games, which is fine. What I really want are the battery tests to come out. Everything else can be easily judged based on 7840u handhelds…

[@E55666]

Everyone, DO NOT PRE-ORDER THIS!!!! I made the mistake of doing so with the original Ally. There will be many used ones selling for almost half the price. Plus, we have no idea if they are still lying about the battery life.

[@michaelgrahamjr.9605]

Stop telling secrets

[@Gingerlion777]

And next year they release another one.. don't get me wrong! I like my ally. But I like the way steam does things better! Release something and actually stick with it and work on it! We really need to stop the (release a new device every year) trend! It's consumerism at its finest! The strategy with this is that we hold back stuff for the next device next year.. instead of making a device the best it can be! Because they want it to last a couple years.

[@MansaMusa50]

Was thinking of picking up a rog ally x, but wanted to see what microsoft have in store for their handheld first. I've got an Asus gaming laptop and have had no issues with it at all.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

It comes with gamepass... It is an Xbox handheld

[@smidlee7747]

Note PC gamepass sometimes lack certain features that the same PC game have in other stores. It crazy to think developers have to do extra work just to get dlss amd fsr support to work with gamepass on Windows. You can't even use remote play on Windows on gamepass. Microsoft major cash doesn't come from gaming and it shows.

[@MansaMusa50]

@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 yeah just waiting for more info on it. It's needs to be able to play games downloaded on the device as well as cloud in my opinion.

[@MansaMusa50]

@@smidlee7747 yeah I've always thought that was both strange a s slightly annoying. The gamepass version is often not like the steam version.

[@andyandy6525]

What about 6gb VRam for Avatar? Could you check please if there is still winning difference between ally and ally x? Nice video, thank you!

[@thebham95]

love my ally, looking forward so much to the ally x. if you are a windows power user you can tweak this to be an insane handheld to dock experience. guara tee anyone would look at the way I configured my ally and think it the best handheld ever

[@firstclaims30]

I love my Rog ally. Best handheld ever made. How did you configure yours ?

[@hiramabiff604]

Okay asus marketing director.

[@thebham95]

@@firstclaims30 first I use ntlite to debloat windows of unnecessary bloatware or services (advanced tool so ease into it), then I use playnite for my frontend (customized myself via open source themes), rewasd so I can group ally gamepad with external gamepad for seamless docking switch experience(allows for more intricate mapping between various platforms and macros) , intelligent memory cleaner to keep memory free as possible. also I only use armoury crate to set game profiles for each dock and handheld profile for performance tdp usage. I love booting up my ally on my TV using a dual shock 3 to play my PS1/2 emulated games, then pull the out of dock and seamlessly go in right into handheld play. in playnite I've customized hundreds of games to have perfectly scaled and performance backgrounds, logos, and icons, plugins to give me extra stats on home screens , boot into game screens. it looks and feels like professional switch PC experience

[@thebham95]

@@hiramabiff604 nah just a genuine fan and enjoyer of the ally. my favorite tech device ever so far. been building and power using Windows PCs for over twenty years. this device been the dream and now it's a reality.

[@tipsy634]

its cool that you like your rog ally but you should not rush to get the upgraded version if asus are banning people from talking about how underwhelming it is

[@ShroomAndGloomGaming]

Man I really want to pull the trigger on this one but I will kick myself if the Claw 8 AI matches or outperforms it. I want that 8inch vrr screen.

[@Tech2C]

A VRAM benchmark video?

[@MisterPikol]

huh ?

[@selohcin]

What would he be benchmarking in such a video?

[@jpquinn4550]

Is there any way to up the VRAM to 10GB VRam? So instead of changing it to 8GB VRAM it’s 10GB VRAM? And have you tried debloating windows? To see if you can get even better results?

[@jcarloz0]

Ally/Ally X are not the only handhelds with 120hz VRR. The GPD Win Mini 2024 also has the same display.

[@Killer-ne7cm]

As a owner of the original Asus rog Ally with no issues can the battery be swap with the new one or is it different size?

[@jorismak]

Different housing, different layout of internals , different battery. It's basically a design of the ally , focusing on room for battery.

[@TaimatCR]

I'm really interested in the zotac one due to the oled screen, as a steam deck 2 seems a couple of years away

[@90lancaster]

I'd like to know what it's like plugged into the mains and into a TV (like one would use a Switch). How quickly it recharges would be useful to know too.

[@Saif0412]

Waiting to full review and benchmarks but pretty sure the Rog Ally X will be the best performing handheld so far.

[@VizioN-Scope]

6:11 The power cable for the battery might be a problem if you want to put a heatsink on your SSD. There is not a lot of room there.

[@jorismak]

In devices like this, you don't want to put an SSD in there that requires a heatsink anyway.

[@BatteryBee]

Appreciate the testing, but ASUS can get in the bin. Their customer service record is atrocious.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

If you were the customer, you wouldn't be called a consumer

[@BatteryBee]

@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 ASUS need the money from us "consumers" to do anything, which is why they scrambled so hard when Gamers Nexus broke the story about the mountain of warranty and customer service issues.

[@jorismak]

Again, *taps the sign* , split the usa ,eu and other regions please. Completely different companies. Eu service and rma handling has been fine.

[@Shadowtron1221]

The only thing I need to know is if the speakers are the same. Because my God did they sound amazing on the original Ally!

[@DJCJ999]

A lot of people bashing ROG for their rma… I bought a secondhand Ally from that pawn shop CEX in the uk.. obviously I wasn’t the og owner and I didn’t have the original bill of sale yet when I found my right trigger wasn’t registering a full press ROG collected, repaired and return my device in under 2 weeks!! It did have warranty with CEX but you know they wouldn’t honour a repair… so yeah.. no complaints about ROG from me. But now I want the X!! Not because it’s a huge update but because it’s an improvement on a machine I use a lot.

[@AndyGilleand]

As an owner of a ROG Phone, I definitely don't pronounce it as R.O.G. 😂

[@thismichael]

Would you recommend the steam deck or new ROG Ally X?

[@kamikazilucas]

once lpddr6 comes out is 10000 mt then we might get somewhere, also maybe a good ideal to have octo channel lol

[@ParadoxalDream]

I don't know if a native VRR screen for Switch 2 is a realistic expectation from Nintendo, but I'd sure like that very much.

[@smidlee7747]

VRR and OLED doesn't mix so well. Also the vast majority of gamers will not care about VRR while the difference with OLED can be seen. Nintendo doesn't seem to care to make their handheld for the tiny minority. I have no trouble docking my laptop with VRR to my 65" LCD TV (no VRR) in my bedroom and have a good time and not thinking about frame rate , VRR nor even how fruity the colors are. I do have a OLED TV but I still game a lot on my LCD TV. Even the cheap LCD TV looks good.

[@Radek494]

​@@smidlee7747Switch 2 is rumoured to be LCD not OLED

[@smidlee7747]

@@Radek494 My point was the average person would notice the difference between LCD from OLED more than VRR. Nintendo would go with OLED before they care about VRR.

[@Radek494]

@@smidlee7747 Ah okay I see now

[@ParadoxalDream]

@@smidlee7747 We're not even sure in the new system will have an OLED screen, the first leaks only mentioned LCD.

[@gonzo4891]

I’ll comfortably wait for Legion Go 2 before I have upgrade my Legion Go.

[@catch82]

Really hard to go back to a 7 inch display after using the Go since November. Hoping (at least) 8 inch screens become the norm. And they might, with Nintendo using an 8 inch display on the next Switch.

[@gonzo4891]

@@catch82 facts! And allegedly, the Go even makes for an exceptional Switch in itself to enjoy your titles on its 8 inch screen! 😂

[@Zer0_Space]

FPS displayed in The Wrap Up section for SpiderMan 🤓

[@NordicMeatShield]

The first Ally runs star citizen to some degree, id like to see how this X version compares

[@darmawanhabib204]

Looking at this my steam deck felt so ancient, I'm amazed by how fast handheld progressing

[@fairphoneuser9009]

Well, this one still has the same APU as the "old" ROG Ally. It's "just" a refinement of it.

[@YouCanCallMeMich]

I have the main 3 handhelds out there and my Legion Go will be more than enough before the SD2 comes out. Best handheld out there right now

[@gonzo4891]

Hands down!

[@overwatch761]

Meh, more than happy with my OG Steam Deck LCD model until the next gen.

[@cezarstefanseghjucan]

LCD is crap.

[@E55666]

@@cezarstefanseghjucan It is not.

[@protocetid]

look at all the FOMO ridden people pestering those who are happy with what they have lol, an annoying thing about PC gaming is the techies who shame you for not having the latest and greatest

[@GlassICE]

Honestly i was expecting an OLED screen plus less bezels than the other factors which made more sense duo to steam and Nintendo released their own version of refresh handhelds with this option

[@smidlee7747]

It makes sense why they didn't go with OLED. OLED cost a lot of money to engineer which explains why Nintendo and Valve used OLED already engineered for tablets and phones. These screen are portrait and not landscape screens which meant no VRR. Ally fans preach VRR is a must. Portrait screen causes problem with older PC titles design to run landscape. Steam Deck has a work around due to Linux. Also VRR on OLED don't mix well sometimes causes flickering.

[@Gshekela]

ASUS rog ally x is the best-looking handheld. it only needs new Apu and bezels oled screen to be the best

[@malaki7123]

So I have several questions for anyone that might have an answer: I've been thinking of getting an ROG Ally X for a bit now due to its portability and versatility. Specifically, I want to use it as a handheld (obviously), run it as a laptop of sorts for productivity complete with my own portable monitor, keyboard, and mouse, but also as a Steam streaming client for my living room TV, effectively turning it into a Switch. Of course, that means I'd need a dock, and there's my first question. Are there any docks that support HDMI 2.1? Would the Ally X be able to support the kind of bandwidth for that in the first place? Also, Rich's coverage on these devices has been excellent as usual, but I'm seeing a lot of focus on visual "tour de force" games on display. What about fighting games that demand 60 FPS to be playable? Has anyone tried running stuff like Tekken 8, Street Fighter 6 and the like on an Ally? Granted I'm sure with proper settings, these systems could steamroll over them and I could admittedly just look around, but I thought I'd ask.

[@Leap623]

Can't speak to the docks, but the Steam Deck can run SF6/Tekken 8 just fine at 60 as long as you're willing to turn settings/resolution down. So I'm sure the Ally can too.

[@vanceg4901]

Hope they increased the stick tension from the floppy 45 grams or so in the vanilla ROG.

[@V3ntilator]

I will stick with my Legion Go PC Handheld. It doesn't matter how good Steam OS is, because i need Windows on a handheld for many reasons including superior compatibility vs Steam OS. No game needs certification on Windows handhelds as they are basically handheld laptops.

[@LiteraryCurtastrophe]

I have the original, my SD card reader doesn't work, and even though the Ally X is exactly what I would have wanted from the start, the only way I'm dropping another grand on a handheld is if I win the lottery. I have too many of these handhelds already and not the income to justify it. Obviously my own problem, but also with Asus going from my favourite and most trusted hardware company to being completely skeptical to distrusting of them has really been disappointing

[@eggamyer3371]

until games run at a minimum 60+ fps I'm holding out, but this is still incredible can't wait to see what comes next!

[@jon....]

What does this mean? You're waiting for a handheld that can play new games at 60 FPS? Well you're going to be waiting perpetually because that is never going to happen.

[@The_Cadaver]

I'm still waiting for these companies to figure out a competent controller. They're basically glorified tablets strapped to MadCatz controllers at this point.

[@steel5897]

@@jon.... It can happen with frame generation, but that's about it. Battery life is the #1 problem, no doubt they'll want to solve that before they even think about increasing performance on modern games.

[@cezarstefanseghjucan]

@@jon....No one should buy stuff that don’t play game at 60 FPS.

[@jon....]

@@cezarstefanseghjucan Is 60 FPS the only thing you care about? Because there are a lot of unique qualities about portable gaming machines that make their performance basically irrelevant.

[@tracyclements1467]

If u have a Legion Go or Rog Ally X then u really don't have to get the 2nd generation of them. You can upgrade years after. Why, because we have FSR3 and Lossless Scailing. Since we have those, that can stretch the need to upgrade.

[@DistinctionDino]

Pretty excited for this I love the steam deck but sometimes it just doesn't fit the bill especially since I now have bazzite os dual booted on the my Rog ally almost my perfect portable pc gaming handheld.

[@OverloadPrinciple]

Owning the OG Ally you would think ASUS would want reviewers to speak about performance considering that's the only reason to upgrade. Guess I just won't upgrade lol

[@AndreAckermann]

I see no benches marked here

[@criticalgeek3914]

In sweden you get an oled 512gb steam deck for the price of the z1 extreme and the legion go (around 1000 USD, we got environmental taxes on electronics). But since we still can order from valve directly and pay 549 USD for the Oled, You cant beat the price to quality. Not even close.

[@firstclaims30]

Rog ally is next level compared to the steamdeck. Better than a steamdeck in pretty much everything

[@ansyarh5747]

About battery? Is double ?

[@Cavscout101]

How long until we can just build our own handheld PC?

[@KayleighBourquin]

Can we build laptops yet?

[@mightyhadi6132]

Probably never , even building our own laptop is still not mass market still very expensive and from how GPU market price is still unstable. Bad times for PC gamers . For now i am stick to consoles

[@officerminiwheats]

A guy did it already with framework it's on KZbin

[@KayleighBourquin]

@@officerminiwheats A guy, one guy, did it. Truly a universally accessible and easy to do thing that we'll all be using now. 🙄

[@NeroVingian40]

@@KayleighBourquinyou might want to check what Framework Laptop really is. You can change and customize virtually everything on the laptop on your own (save for the processor and screen), most components are built to be upgradeable. And they are already selling this. In the future, we might actually see a laptop that we can actually build by ourselves.

[@mateusvilela8129]

We need fsr 3.1 testing, dlss no longer a selling point is a big deal

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

No, we don't need sub native resolution games. We need optimized games

[@mateusvilela8129]

@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 speak for yourself, upscaling tech is important wether you like it or not

[@crestofhonor2349]

@@fillerbunnyninjashark271upscaling is here to stay and it’s not bad at all especially when you have a smaller display or a large display with a high resolution

[@jorismak]

Alex said he wanted to do a video about it, but they had to finish ongoing projects first.

[@mateusvilela8129]

@@jorismak shame, its going to take a while then

[@ViolenceCity]

That price is crazy.

[@mikelujanable]

My nintendo swith only once ever ran low on batteries. That was on a cross country flight with a long layover.

[@TEk0n]

For me there are just way too many drawbacks for running Windows in a portable handheld gaming machine, from a user experience perspective and battery efficiency. Gonna wait for the Steam Deck 2 (gonna be waiting a while)

[@ARCtheIsmaster]

if we could natively access our xbox library on this, I would buy it in a heartbeat

[@matjakobs8612]

Cannyou take a look at the 120hz mode of dragons dogma 2 please.

[@mehrab4k148]

Please test AMD FSR 3.1 with FG on Xbox , pc , Steam Deck and Rog ally .also compare FSR 3.0.4 with FSR 3.1

[@Radek494]

There's no FSR 3.1 games on Xbox right now. Only 5 games on PC

[@tomkirbygreen]

After sales support… just saying.

[@EBCHILL2]

Yeah that's definitely a no deal for me

[@Dr.D00p]

In America, land of shit consumer protection laws...just saying.

[@djtomoy]

Don’t break it then

[@vintageoriginallegit]

What’s a better alternative cause all sales support sucks

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

Consumers (cattle) have no protections

[@dannypassion]

Writing on update thats why benchmarking won't make scenes to talk about it now..

[@01devilsmilitia]

now how about a comparison between the EXTREME version and the X. y'know, the one that folk will be upgrading FROM

[@madmardigan3321]

Awesome stuff. I'm keen for a Hand-held with a screen atleast 7.5" in size, vrr etc. Hope we see one next year. I love seeing the iterations and how Hand-held gaming has come back and it's just the beginning...

[@ETophales]

Why not the Legion Go then?

[@madmardigan3321]

@@ETophales DF just said the ROG Ally is the only one with VRR

[@eyalteler5349]

@@madmardigan3321 Sorry, missed your VRR requirement. Maybe because it was in small letters. :)

[@VeegovonDOOM]

Pre-ordered!!!

[@squelching]

Hmm, I think I'll stick to me Steam Deck OLED. I only really play AA and smaller games, so it's pretty much perfect. AAA games very rarely interest me.

[@smidlee7747]

Also it seems there are going to be less triple A titles in the near future. They are getting too long and expensive to develop making them too risky.

[@squelching]

@@smidlee7747 I certainly hope so. It's very rare I'm impressed by anything high budget nowadays.

[@protocetid]

smidlee7747 The shift away from cutting edge graphics is a strong case for an AMD or Intel smartphone, or at least a pocketable handheld PC that trades off performance for size and battery life. It’s going to be weaker than handheld PCs, yet it won’t really matter because AAA games are dwindling.

[@karanreddy9561]

11:11 You can see FPS numbers :O Is DF in trouble? 😮

[@TheKingUpNorth]

🤫🤫🤫

[@Playerz714]

Fk this company the fact they still dont publicly admit the design issue with the SD Card heat issue is insane

[@rodriguezkev]

Yup, moved it with the new one but made sure it was known that it had nothing to do with the design flaw of the first one. Were supposed to believe it was moved due to space constraints 😂😂

[@LIAGWP]

I'm waiting for the Real Asus Rog Ally 2

[@lindseyhunt1090garageb]

when will benchmarks be released ?

[@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753]

This huge number is not seeing im real life

[@arthur17718]

also, dont put any game that is over 30gb on an microsd card, it won't work, you'll only get 2 frames per second.

[@aristeidhskaps4545]

What do you mean

[@ToGrimmToWin]

Wrong you forgot that the MSI claw shares the same vrr screen as the Ally

[@Saif0412]

Msi doesn't claim it's handheld has VRR, it was assumed by some people. Only the Rog Ally and X have VRR at the moment. Not to mention the Msi claw is the worst of the windows handhelds.

[@ToGrimmToWin]

@@Saif0412 wrong it has vrr already confirmed several times by several reputable sources

[@ToGrimmToWin]

@@Saif0412 I also double-checked all this information before I responded to you. Several people have gotten into the system and can confirm it has variable refresh rate 48 to 120 HZ there was a misunderstanding where someone said it did then backtracked and said it didn't, but since then has been confirmed by multiple sources

[@nicolasbonvarlet338]

The OLED screen is really a big missed opportunity. Guess the battery life would have been even better with it :/

[@MicaelAzevedo]

You either choose Oled or VRR. A true gamer chooses VRR.

[@nicolasbonvarlet338]

@@MicaelAzevedo why not both ? And what is a "true gamer" ?

[@jorismak]

​@@nicolasbonvarlet338because oled can't do vrr in a good way , without brightness flickering. And I think there simply had to be a panel available for them to buy, that they trust , and has the specs they want. The fact that the Steam Deck oled and the switch oled are using the exact same panel, shows that there isn't much to pick from in that size / form factor.

[@rhysjones8506]

​@@MicaelAzevedonah it depends. If you have the best pc money can buy. You don't need vrr as your pc can get you a good locked FPS. And in most games outside competitive after 120fps isn't it better to just get a better picture. A HDR oled screen can look absolutely amazing

[@MicaelAzevedo]

@@rhysjones8506 we are talking about handled devices lol

[@richardhadley8214]

I liked both the Legion Go and the Rog Ally but I was constantly nursing that battery consumption like a baby and it kinda of nuked the pc handheld experience for me. I did owe the steam deck oled and it was an awesome piece of kit I just wished it had a little bit more grunt and it would of been king 👑 I’ve preordered the Ally X so hopefully the window handheld experience will be a lot more better if not then I’m gonna put steam os on it instead.

[@X862go]

I love the ally!

[@Inv4sorZ]

This will be my only hardware, along with a 7600m egpu and a Quest 3. Just hoping to see more PS exclusives coming to PC and it to hold VR and 1440p high properly.

[@nileredsexperiment834]

What i hate about this new Ally X is that they took off the XGM Port. Kind of a dealbreaker tbh.

[@thelibra101219]

To be honest... I am very glad that this is not OLED. My eyes (and about about 2% of the population) are unable to use OLED due to sensitivity to something called PWM flickering. As OLED screens are still taking over handhelds, I don't think there are enough people who complained about this issue yet. There is no cure, settings, or resolution that I know of. A few minutes, my eyes would start to feel "off"... and then they will start to hurt a lot... afterwards, i would have a headache, and feel nauseous -- all within about 15 minutes or less. If I don't stop, my eyes would hurt or remain sensitive for days afterwards. I am guessing that this will be my last handheld for a long time as everyone and their mom wants OLED and ASUS will surely switch to OLED in the future.