ASUS RTX 3090TI TUF: When the cooler isn't TUF enough. Overview, temps, cooler breakdown.

[@gageboy14]

I have this card and it stays generally in the 65-70c range gaming. Hottest i ever seen it get was 77-79c under stress. Plus it's an overclocking monster. Never had a bad Tuf card or strix.

[@mashpotato16]

i have this card, the hotspot temps are awful 98-105C, but core temps are 65-75C

[@jmv8775]

Wow. Asus dropped the ball on Tuf. No wonder they where LC for the Strix

[@jamesgoussanou]

9:26 there isnt any VRAM on the back to the 3090ti even for the founders,right?

[@JCustom]

Yes all on the front

[@DavidRain007]

This fact is the main benefit of Ti version. Cooler memory chips - they will probably last longer.

[@navidvalizadeh8560]

I have an asus Rtx 3090ti tuf which boosts to 2040mhz in games like red dead redemption 2 but at the cost of heat and fan noise Relatively hot air blows from the gpu side and the chassis door of my computer is open. Due to the large size of this card, the temperature rises to 75 degrees in games and the fan is loud at 2400 rpm. I am not sure, but I think other brands do not have this problem. You are right If I had known before buying that I would get this amount of heat and fan noise, I would have bought it from Gigabyte or MSI, at least they don't have the problem of heat and noise storms. I really expected more from Asus

[@Tuskabanana]

i was about to buy the 3090 ti tuf too but after his video i will go for the suprim x :=)

[@navidmirvalizadeh4914]

​@@Tuskabanana Sorry for the late reply Suprim X beside EVGA FTW3 Are Top tier cards. I wish I knew this issue before. I assume you bought your Suprim X. congratulations

[@gizzmo722]

Got a Tuf 3090 ti for my brithday and its going into 82°C at 100% fanspeed for me, thats why i checked for temperature videos.. and it dosent matter if i underclock it, nothing really changes

[@alexrizzo7740]

I am also having this issue, sometime I even get a black screen crash on my card, from what I have deducted is a 'hot spot' thermal throttle or failsafe.

[@navidmirvalizadeh4914]

I have tuf Rtx 3090 ti for almost a year. as in this video mentioned the cooler is not enough for a 3090 ti pcb you must get a bigger case with a lot room for GPU heat to dissipate. otherwise changing the GPU is best option but expensive

[@alexrizzo7740]

I wish I would have seen this video before I purchased my TUF 3090ti. I have been experiencing thermal throttling/crashes with this card. I am lucky that I am still within my return period for this card and am able to swap out for an EVGA. Thank you for covering this issue, I was unsure what was happening with this card (I had an idea) but couldn't verify. Your video allowed me to come to the conclusion that I needed.

[@JCustom]

Glad I could help!

[@superdbsfan8670]

Tuf 3090TI OC. I haven’t been having thermal problems at all.

[@alexrizzo7740]

@@superdbsfan8670 Yeah I'm pretty sure I got a lemon card, but on the other end, went with an EVGA 3090 Ti and it runs much cooler and seems more stable in general.

[@Dr.Omegod]

As I said in a previous video, I truly appreciate your tireless effort ( and budget :D) for all those honest and above of all , straight to the point reviews. I have watched all your vids since I found this channel, its a Shame I drop by until now When next rtx and amd series are out, your channel will be my future reference for buy the right one Thanks again for your efforts keeping your content relevant and up to date, warm regards!

[@JCustom]

Much appreciated!

[@Mr_V989]

@@JCustom any updates on the suprim version of the card? :)

[@Tuskabanana]

@@JCustom Did you test the Suprim X 3090 Ti?, i want to buy it, was about to buy the asus tuf 3090 ti but after your video, i would rather take the suprim x ,cause its the same price :=) best regards

[@m.a6416]

Been rendering 3d environments with this for a few months, air cooled not aio, no real issues with temperatures. It is noisy though.

[@alexrizzo7740]

I've been rendering 3D environments on a TUF 3090 ti as well, my card gets so hot that I get black screen crashes. Sent it back, have the EVGA 3090 Ti on the way

[@navidmirvalizadeh4914]

@@alexrizzo7740 EVGA FTW3 is king. congratulations I do 3d with my PC too mostly blender cycles and loud fan noises and also temp is not a thing that you can deal with it for long time

[@ganzonomy]

I managed to find one of these on deep discount at micro center. I bought it and out of the box it boosted to 2100 megahertz. The problem I had ultimately was exactly the same problem you had with this card. It could not sustain the boost clocks, and to make matters worse it would become hot to the touch not only on the back plate but also on the connectors. I upgraded to a 3090 TI STRIX hybrid, and has been much quieter and although it only boosts to 2085, it gets nowhere near as hot and can actually manage the heat. I did notice that you said that your stricts would hit 60° C during the 3D Mark run in Port Royal. I haven't gotten past 54° C. I'm wondering if having the radiator as a bottom mount is not doing any favors and if it was a top mount or a front mount with the temperatures be different because they would be greater access to intake or exhaust. Edit: I ran unigine superposition and boosts on the strix were 2055-2070 with a maximum temperature of 53 degrees C. Great review and I do agree.

[@lagoleer]

Looks like Asus really cheaped out on the 3090ti from the poscaps and poor cooling on the LC to the weaker HS on the TUF. They also decided to use the same PCB which could be a minor blessing for the TUF but a step back for the Strix. Seeing the cooler fail so miserably especially compared to the EVGA model is sad. Both 3090ti models from Asus are disappointing. Thanks for both great reviews.

[@JCustom]

You get a couple more phases on the strix design but honestly it doesn't make a difference for the use case here. I think the ftw3 has the same phase count as the TUF, but the cooler is miles ahead. The kpe is stacked but by the time that rolls around, the 4000 will be on its heels.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

@@JCustom yeah it seems like once you get up to 19 phases it doesn't make a difference. I mean the evga ultra is scoring as high as alot of kingpin 3090ti's right now. Just talked to a friend with one he got lucky his got to 2250stable but that's it. His memory was actually worse then mine. Of course good units are settings records but just saying even though the evga ftw3 has 21 phases it seems it's steady 65c helps it out alot for an air card. I think th stability makes up for the phases and allows it to score higher. The top 100 scores if yoy notice and read rhe description most are actually people using evga it Judy says asus because they are using the asus 890 watt bios. But click on the person score go to the description on the next page and many say evga one guy got reslly lucky with a black he tried saying bad bin but he got top 9 in hall of fame. Yes with an air cooled black. He got 2295! How crZy is that? But yeah just shows man that asus 890 watt bios on an evga card is beastly. It seems evga knew what they were doing and maybe just maybe doing 21 and not 24 helped the cooling even further. And 3 phase memory instead of 4. Which would increases stability. Evga Def was smart with this. Again though from what I've noticed is if you have 19phases when it goes above that it doesn't do much. Only thing helping the kingpin is the dual 12 pin allowing for even more power! But yeah pretty cool stuff man.

[@DavidRain007]

@@JCustom EVGA - they've lessons learned. I owned EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra. Boost wasn't very impressive. I've swapped for the ASUS ROG STRIX. The cooler is much better and boost clocks about +100 higher. Now they've beefed the cooler of the Ti and it is probably the best air cooler among 3090/3090Ti boards.

[@bavelbenjamin]

I opted for this Tuf 3090Ti vs going for a 40's series. I did it because I am mostly flight simming, and don't need anything more than 30FPS in 4K. You mentioned in your video that you managed to flash the Strix 3090Ti Bios onto the Tuf 3090Ti card. I am planning to water cool. How does the card perform water cooled? Is it similar to the Strix 3090Ti?

[@JCustom]

They are essentially the same card just you get a bit more of a overkill power delivery on the strix. Performance wise you should expect the same.

[@bavelbenjamin]

Tuf 3090ti finally came. Flashed the bios and put it on a water block. Works perfectly fine!

[@AdrianLi123]

Oh this is super interesting. I have the exact same card, I undervolted/overclocked a little bit, so in game it runs at 2040mhz at 0.990V constantly, and default fan curve and everything, the card would stay under 70 degrees mostly and fan speed is around 70-75%? I didn't change how much power it can pull and it stays mostly at around 410W. I also tried benchmarks on it and similar results. Very different from your testing. From your video it looks like there's not enough contact or the card is missing heat pads or something.

[@Mr_V989]

was able to get 2025mhz@0.935v with my zotac amp holo 3090ti, i think that zotac has got vapor chamber on same as EVGA ftw3 and temps are ok in the closed case, way better than zotac 3090 trinity..

[@JCustom]

I’ve tried more than 1 tuf and they are both the same. Under 70 deg honestly seems impossible for this cooler under load. What are your ambient temps ?

[@AdrianLi123]

@@JCustom 76 degree F

[@Mr_V989]

the zotac amp holo 3090 ti has got a vapor chamber this time around, interesting how would that perform knowing this AIB hasnt got any good reputation on the cooling they normaly use.

[@jjlw2378]

Very disappointed in the ASUS cards. This wouldn't be a problem if there were more waterblocks available but it could be several months + before brands start releasing blocks for 3090ti. Seems like EVGA ftw3 is the only choice right now unless the MSI Suprim X is somehow significantly better but doubtful. Thanks for the great breakdowns!

[@brentpolk2431]

I'm dealing with this same BS! Forum lead me to this video. I'm getting black screens all the time during rendering and as of right now, I've dropped the Power target down to 95% I have yet to test it as of watching this vid.

[@DavidRain007]

Definitely bad design of this card. My ROG STRIX RTX 3090 O24G scores 13212 points together with Ryzen 3700X @ default 3,6 GHz. In closed Corsair case @ 25 °C room temperature. The only "problem" are the GDDR6X chips under the backplate. They attack 100 °C.

[@Macho_Man_Randy_Savage]

3090Ti is too TUF to cool for ASUS lol that shit needs a WB! But damn the FTW3 is silent on air! Amazing review.

[@JCustom]

Nice name and logo 😂

[@alsteooaai]

hello, under € 350 what is the motherboard that barricades / limits less the (high) frequencies of DDR5 RAM? With the highest maximum frequency limit of the RAM, which supports the highest possible frequency in OC pushed DDR5 (with top-of-the-range CPU and RAM working at higher frequencies than those generally supported by the Z690 mobos, which therefore in this case could represent a limit and block / run RAM and CPU at a lower frequency than the max they could reach, unless we are talking about Asus Apex or very expensive mobos), then mobo that does not impose a frequency limit on CPU and RAM and letting them work at their high frequencies. I foresee in the future to probably put an i7-13900K (keeping the same mobo) so the only thing I need is that it is a model of mobo that lets CPU and RAM work at very high frequencies without barricading and not limiting CPU and RAM to the limit frequency of the mobo. With high max frequency limit (the one indicated by the manufacturers in the data sheets), but above all true in a real scenario, because I see that in the data sheets some models have indicated 5333MHz, others 6000MHz, but some say that all mobos with 4 DIMM / slot RAM barricade / limit all to 6400MHz (frequency of ddr5, even if these and the CPU could theoretically work in OC even at a little more than 6400MHz), hoping that this is not true, I am looking for a mobo suitable for OC pushed RAM, the goal is to try to bring even more mature ddr5 banks that I will buy in the future (with 13900k having better IMC and SA) at the highest achievable frequency, perhaps between 6500 and 7000MHz.

[@JCustom]

Ability to run ram at very high speeds depends on configuration and your cpu imc. When your well over the officially intel supported speeds then it’s all about your cpu imc as well as knowledge of ram over clocking. A guy I know who is a professional overclocker for Asus, he’s set records using a z690 asus prime. Most of all your cpu imc is going to have to be very good.

[@alsteooaai]

@@JCustom thanks bro:) woww, if you can tag this guy or tell me how he did it would you help me a lot... by IMC you mean SA / memory controller? however I know that CPU greatly affects the frequency of the RAM, I will probably find myself in such a situation in a couple of years: Z690 (bought now) and 13900K, so I just need a mobo that does not limit the work of the CPU that supports higher frequencies higher than those of the mobo. So in your opinion on which Z690 will I see a greater improvement with a 13 gen CPU? which by the way will have better IMC, what I need is that the mobo does not limit it.

[@alsteooaai]

@@JCustom At software level: bios settings etc., what do you touch and change about the IMC to improve the DDR5 ram? How do I have the IMC how did that boy did?

[@GameTechBenchmarks-kh9tg]

You clearly have a problem with the radiator not making proper contact with the GPU. It's impossible for the chip on this card to reach 92 degrees Celsius with a power consumption of 450 watts.

[@evenblackercrow4476]

Nice work.

[@Direwoof]

Most beautiful card ever made imo. Much cooler looking then teh 4090 vers. Wish teh heatsink worked better touugh.

[@geph13]

i could care less about the fan noise, idk if its just me but i like hearing the fans ramp up it tells me its being fully utilized for sure

[@Trailerofdead]

Has the 3090 ti coil whine?

[@JCustom]

My strix and tuf both have it. Same pcb but more phases for power delivery ( better on the strix). It’s not as bad as I had on my 90s strix

[@ganzonomy]

This is wild to me. I have a 3080 ti strix and never had a problem with it overheating even with time spy extreme. Is unigine that hard? I ran unigen after making this comment, and found that my boots were consistently in the mid 1900s and that even in maximum power mode which is 450 watts, I never got the card over 72° C. I'm wondering if something is wrong with the contact between the GPU and the cooler. Because that cooler is much larger size wise than the one in my 3080 TI.

[@JCustom]

The fin density on it is not as good as the strix coolers either. It’s an enlarged tuf design which is still subpar to the strix design. Are you running with 1080 extreme? It’s more demanding than the regular 4k setting

[@ganzonomy]

@@JCustom 1080 medium, the default. I can try with extreme and see what happens. You ran your video at 1080 extreme? (Couldn't see the setting in the video, I think the OC utility was blocking the choice)

[@ganzonomy]

@@JCustom I just retried unigine at 1080p extreme on my 3080 ti strix. At all settings stock (1815mhz boost), Max temp was 68 degrees c, and boost clock never went below 1875. Max fan speed was 70 percent. I ran the same test in OC mode (minimum boost goes to 1845mhz), and GPU clock stayed at 1905mhz with a maximum temp of 70 degrees c. Max fan speed was 75 percent. Just for fun. I then decided to max out the power target of the 380 TI STRIX at 112%, and set the voltage to 100%. My maximum temperature was 71° C, the lowest that the boost went was 1935 megahertz, and the maximum fan speed was 76% to 78%. This is an air cooled strix as well. So I would agree with you. The TUF is underbuilt. Some information on the 3080 TI STRIX: it's based TDP is 400 watts, and its maximum TDP is 450 watts. So the STRIX card is plenty capable of removing all the heat.

[@ganzonomy]

Last reply I just did 4k optimized, and I got a max temp of 72 degrees c, 1905-1920mhz Max boost, and 82% fan with the power target set to 112% and voltage at 100%. I think 1080p extreme and 4k optimized, at least for the 3080 TI STRIX, are very close.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

@@ganzonomy you didn't understand him the strix cooler is better as he explained. The tuf cooler is completely different the 3090ti tuf even weighs less then the 3080ti strix! Because of the cooler believe it or not. It's crZy because with the 6900xt they used the strix cooler they should of at least done it for this tuf. The strix lineup is very good the air cooled ones are good. They can get warm still all 3080ti/3090s seem to but again the cooler is better and yesh there is a reason why a 3090 strix can out perform a 3090ti tuf.

[@jmv8775]

MSI Surprim... Need it! Lol.

[@raedalhazmi6448]

I need the quite mode bios May you send it to my email ? Or plz upload it to techpowerup

[@JCustom]

I no longer have the card sorry.