At The Railyard: Donner Pass (MSTS)

[@lennyos]

I also bought this right when it came out and never looked back. It's probably my favorite of all the add-on routes I have and the locomotive's and rolling stock are superb. Definatly a class A++ route.

[@trainknut]

This route man, this is the top of my list of favorite train simulator routes of all time, this includes all other sims too. It has aged a bit compared to some others, but it's the most authentic recreation of Southern Pacific transition era, or Donner Pass in any era I have ever seen. By the way, for those of you wondering, no his comment about performance does not stand today, I can testify as a man with a broken graphics card whose computer can only preform the most menial of tasks, the route runs fine, it may be taxing for a 2009-era PC, but anything worth using today should be able to easily at least get smooth frames. By the way, in addition to the two[three] official expansions that include new locomotives(Storm of 52 and both of the cadillac packs), you could also get the Vintage Trains over Tehachapi and use the locomotive variations for pre-war trains and helpers, for those of us who like to explore the route and make up our own scenarios.

[@lennyos]

Snow in the sheds was actually more common then one would think.

[@lennyos]

I used to do it too 'cause it does look so much more epic. They did however double-head passenger trains with them so keep thaqt in mind when you put together express consists.

[@kelbym07]

After seeing this, I am seriously thinking about this route. Thanks.

[@dylanhale7300]

Hello from the future. LOL just downloaded Open rails, and I've been transferring all my stuff from MSTS to My new pc. Soon we'll be rolling again.

[@daltonauto]

Someone is already doing that... It may take a while, but I think his team will do a great job.

[@theUP844]

they are, one is based on SP's operations in West Colton, CA the other is the coast line route which is part of the mainline from Los Angeles to San Fransisco.

[@superjesse64]

Very nice rating

[@nkproad777]

Man this route has the best msts 2-8-0's ever! Not to mention great scenery. :)

[@crookedeye62]

Wow! Excellent work 3DTrainStuff! Very nice commentary by "At the Railyard!" The technology continues to excel!

[@Halosixteen]

Great route and nice review! I'd love to see a modern version after running the transition era route. Impressive scenery and the snow tunnels are amazing.

[@theUP844]

BTW great video man, I have this route and can honestly it was well worth the money. I agree with you the steam locomotives both the consolidations and the cab forwards are awsome. its a real shame that only one cab forward still survives today. but for the route all I can say is AWSOME.

[@up4004]

it's also like Switching from trying to get a date with Francesca Eastwood to rapping with Ice-T.

[@justinpateras7807]

intro gets to me every time

[@theUP844]

the only sound from the 3751 addon they used was the bell. everything else was all new sounds.

[@BlackWolfessUSCM]

@HaloCE14 There's a Cab Forward on display at the California Railroad Museum, Restored to the point of exterior, I don't know if she still runs though.

[@kingelvis24]

the intro music rocks! suits the route well!

[@superjesse64]

SP 4289 looks like a model train.

[@theUP844]

unfortuantely that's true. both route's are being developed for MSTS. As far as I know, 3DTS does not plan to do content for RS.

[@BlackWolfessUSCM]

@HaloCE14 That would truely be an awesome sight.

[@rchgck]

Fantastic, great work, nice editing and great narration! Keep them coming. This felt more like I was watching something on the history channel. rchgck

[@JJRB26]

@nkproad777 Those are 2-8-0 C-9s part of the SP class.

[@Chqnces]

Nice Video

[@serpentstudios7768]

This reminds me of Kiruna in Sweden with heavy snow..

[@SanJuanBranchLineTrainzSeries]

Great looking route, and great review. But man, what does a route have to do to get a perfect score?

[@Chasingrail]

SanJuanTrainz there is one

[@nkproad777]

@spgeneralservice1654 That explains those directional thingys on the stack.

[@lennyos]

after watching more thurowly thru the vid, I noticed something that is inacurate(other then the cab forward tank engine) In frieght service, SP never double-feaded Cab Farwards due to their power ripping apart drawbars.

[@kelbym07]

$50! Geez, too bad I'm a student. I better start saving up.

[@superjesse64]

I really wanted to find out if this route was good or not.

[@JJRB26]

@nkproad777 No some of the C-9s don't have any of those smoke stacks.

[@titanx619]

Ayeee I'm in this video

[@villamosos]

Very good video trmania !!! :) The music is good !!:)

[@mako88sb]

Great review! I've had this route since it first came out in 2005 and it's still one of my favorites. As you said, the cab forwards are great and in my opinion, worth the price of the route all by themselves. I am a bit surprised to see no mention of the 2 expansion packs "Storm 0f 1952" and "The End of a Era". Do you plan on doing a follow up about these later on?

[@qr2605]

Cab-forward's were always oil burners. Would have been a hard job for the fireman to move the coal from the tender to the firebox!

[@WhiteStar1222]

As for traveling on donner pass myself and driving by it looks fairly accurate in some areas and does anyone else see the cab forward in the intro is missing it’s tender

[@rustingparts]

Bluetooth Tender

[@trainknut]

@milwfoam i got MSTS from pirate bay, it isn't the most honest of ways to download it, but so far it works fine!

[@JJRB26]

@HaloCE14 Do you mean the others Cab Forward?

[@jacksalvin364]

Southern Pacific's Overland Route

[@superjesse64]

DP BEAT THE FBL!

[@Espeelover]

I'm sure SP did attempt to do it. And I'm sure it was done once or twice.

[@jackboerner1901]

I could certain that Donner Pass was built before 1868.

[@jackboerner1901]

+Christopher Mc Elroy I think is was actually 1862 to 1866, keeping in mind the summit tunnel was completed in two years

[@trainknut]

@@jackboerner1901 the route opened in 1868, Donner Itself was indeed completed in 1866, but as the trains had nowhere to go yet, it wasn't exactly booming with traffic.

[@nyc3001]

Which sounds are default in the route? Horn, bell etc.?

[@nkproad777]

@spgeneralservice1654 Kinda wish that 3dts made one without that stack, and the standerd one they had.

[@theUP844]

nope,the two SP routes are being made for MSTS.

[@THEFINALHAZARD]

'Safe and warm as LA'.... LA...Safe? XD Hah sorry, but that's a good one man.

[@trainknut]

Well, it was the 60s... things were different back then. In other words, LA was actually a nice city, San Francisco hadn't been taken over by hipster libtards, and SP was still ruling the rails west of Texas. How things change, eh?

[@cuocsongthuongngaybancovid9784]

In 0:10 there is a cab forward without tender .???

[@kelbym07]

How much was the package again?

[@Cademaverickv]

I'm planning to. It'll be freeware AND be based in SP times. My website is a Webstarts site called RAILS OF NORTH AMERICA.

[@lennyos]

only on passenger trains. I've watched countless documentries on the engines and all the historians say the same thing, only on passnger due to aging carsand extremely powerful engines.

[@Arturobrito0502]

This makes me want to make a version of this roblox, i know theres a ro scale version and that it would be almost imposible to make it realistic but hey, i keep dreaming.

[@durangoandsilverton]

the new one?

[@kingelvis24]

i notice that to

[@durangoandsilverton]

what game is this?

[@friscoProductions]

MSTS that stands for Microsoft train Simulator

[@beeble2003]

Dude, your fair use disclaimer is completely bogus. Reviewing the music would be fair use; using the music as a background to a review of something else is not.

[@trainknut]

He's using the music to enhance and alter his own product, the use of music in a video with commentary and footage over it does not harm the sales or the reputation of the owners of the music, the whole system on KZbin here is bogus, while it claims to be an automated copyright system, it's more just to create a monopoly for channels like Vemo which own all the popular music. In my opinion(and feel free to disagree) is that music should have a different set of rules to movies, yes obviously if somebody uploads a full song specifically to make money off it, or to detract from the original, that's different and should be dealt with as it always has been... however because music is such a staple and essential part of pop-culture, I feel like artists should be allowed to make use of music in good taste to enhance their art, without permission or threat of copyright lawsuits. In other words, the royalty-free versions of iconic songs and tunes you see in KZbin videos and TV shows nowadays is really fucking annoying, and I wish they could just use the real music they're clearly trying to represent. His fair use disclaimer is bogus, he shouldn't even need it... not like a disclaimer would actually help against automated bots, a disclaimer would only work for a human watching the video, but bots which just scan the audio for matches in an archive won't notice or care about the disclaimer.