Atemi: Shoji Nishio Shihan

[@george-ql1sk]

Nishio is the best aikido master i have ever seen ,combined the knoledge of karate to aikido and the sword , he moves lightning fast.

[@davidrobinson5999]

This man was a true SHIHAN !!!! I wish that I could have been in one of classes. FANTASTIC a TRUE ART

[@djsuter4410]

The aikido community needs to look back at some of the pioneers and reflect on our practice.

[@susanohara4274]

Atemi waza is absolutely essential for self defence on the street.

[@gremioramone1]

Gosto da forma que o Seagal Sensei deu ênfase a prática do Atemi no seu Aikido pessoal. Tbm melhorou as técnicas de deflexões a partir do kendo. Por isso o Tenshin Aikido é muito forte. Também gosto do trabalho do "Real Aikido".

[@ズビ-y6s]

I learned Aikido Toho and I must say personally, this make sense for me. It's something what I can call a 'hard aikido': short moves, a lot of really effective atemi. Look at sensei Nishio's moves, speed and ballance. He was a great, true master.

[@Titan500J]

I trained in Aikido that loosely followed Tohei Sensei. Luckily my Sensei also taught Judo which taught practically. After moving to another city I started training in the Nishio style and it made sense. Thank you, wonderful video.

[@GreenwoodAikido]

Thank you - and you're very welcome! I'll also add that an understanding of grappling (judo) and striking (typically karate, kali, etc.) are really essential to fully understanding aikido technique and avoiding just superficial practice.

[@Titan500J]

@@GreenwoodAikido Thank you so much for responding to my comment. I didn't mention that I also later trained in ITF Taekwondo of course I'm not very good at any of them but I love to train. Best

[@susanohara4274]

Koichi Tohei sensei (10th Dan Aikido) focuses mainly on Ki. He is not interested in practical self defence.

[@sorenz08]

He was my first Sensei 1991 - and he gave me Shodan in Aikido Tho Iai, 1997,

[@imllendream]

Do you still practice the Nishio way of Aikido to date or have already stopped or abandon it?

[@William.Driscoll]

It would be wonderful to see your movement. I respect a decision to keep it private, of course; Just saying. And great to hear that you've studied under and been honoured by a master such as the man demonstrating such quality skill, in the attached video. May it be a blessing to you & yours, that ripples far & wide. *bows*

[@jeremyminns5627]

Dynamic..a pure pleasure to watch.🙏

[@alexscott730]

At least Nishio sensei's aikido makes more martial sense than some of those complaint dance ceramonies they mistakenly call aikido.....

[@AldoAndrade0]

Excellent video! Thanks!

[@randalltoth7478]

outstanding .

[@susanohara4274]

Both O'sensei and Shioda sensei said that Atemi is 70% of Aikido! It's the same with old school Judo, Judo and Aikijitsu.

[@DouglasDougg]

Awesome!

[@gezortenplotz]

I watched Saito Shihan’s video on atemi. I noticed that he used what karateka call the ‘diamond cutter fist’ with the middle finger knuckle protruding. I thought that knuckle was for focusing the pain aspect of atemi. But a Shotokan student showed me that the traditional curled fingered fist risks damaging the index finger when striking. . .on impact, the index finger has no place to go. The index finger, tucked under thumb, in the diamond cutter fist is better protected. Of course, striking with the middle finger knuckle also might be helpful.

[@GreenwoodAikido]

For the most part aikido people don't condition their hands for striking so from a practical sense it's better to use things like shotei and shuto (either the palm or the edge of the hand) to reduce the chance of injury. It's interesting to remember that the introduction of gloves into boxing was less for the protection of the opponent's head and more for the protection of the strikers hands. If you watch bare hand fighters there's a lot less full force knuckle strikes and a lot more open palm striking.

[@patricks1560]

Yeah, I learned a little bit of judo in my youth, and the guy in charge showed us some atemi for self-defence. Personally, I think a high contact sport like judo, combined with atemi, is a pretty deadly combination. If I had my time again I'd go with that. Unfortunately, I learnt a mish-mash of styles, mostly useless in real-life situations, as I've found out to my cost. You live and learn.

[@susanohara4274]

Both O'sensei and Shioda sensei said that Atemi is 70% of Aikido! It's the same with old school Judo, Judo and Aikijitsu.

[@paulcalugar1438]

From a Karate-ka perspective…All things become possible in Aikido or in any Aiki jutsu art when Atemi is incorporated . It is the missing component (detractors of Aikido fail to see this)

[@pierluigimura2336]

Aikidoists should teach other martial artists... What a modest quotation for such a grounded concept.

[@JSMinstantcoaching]

at least with the nishio style there has always been an honest attempt to make aikido efficient martially. I am glad to have found this path and praticed it for years to make solid connexions between swords and hands techniques principles. Today even the nishio style becomes questionable because of the eternal Problem of lack of sparring. I would also lay the emphasis on the fact that all the karate punches he shows are not practiced into the style but only "suggested" at least as far as I was concerned. You need to find a nice karate club and train all that techniques prior or along your nishio aikido techniques to properly master them. I consider that BJJ is a perfect follow up for any akidoka who wants to fully make the bridge between ancient and modern between the sword and "instagram" world

[@GreenwoodAikido]

Thanks for your comment Jean-Serge. I agree with the need to introduce different arts into aikido. This is true for all martial arts. You have to develop a broad understanding. I've trained at several BJJ schools and the emphasis in all of them is of course on ne waza and the training is pretty much devoid of striking. Occasionally there's slipping past a jab to get a clinch, but mostly very thin on striking. The focus is on getting to the clinch and dominating on the ground. But there's definitely live rolling - so you're free to go full out within the rules of BJJ (e.g. no hitting). I do include ne waza training in my own school - mostly sweeps, escapes and alternative pins against atypical ukemi. BJJ alone is not really enough. I also trained in Ryukyu Kempo which includes bogu kumite. In practice, kumite basically turns into kickboxing, but it's alive and you do develop a good dynamic sense of timing and spacing. The dynamic of sparring, is based on a consensual fight, so in order to win you need an offensive component. The difficulty is that Aikido (and Ryukyu Kempo for that matter) are both really designed to handle non-consensual violence. To effectively adapt aikido to sparring (consensual violence) would require introducing effective offensive elements. But introducing offensive elements would elicit the "that's not aikido" response so you still haven't "proved" anything. The moment you engage in consensual violence with another person - i.e. you put your hands up and face off to fight, it's not really aikido any more, even if you manage to wrangle on a good kotegaeshi. Aikido needs to retain its budo nature, but at the same time it has to be understood and appreciated for it's own particular goals which Nishio Sensei articulated very well.

[@JSMinstantcoaching]

Greenwood Aikido wow thank you for your broadened view it's such a bliss to meet thinking martial artists who question and search. I like your concept of consensual violence and the implications it would have in aikido. As you mentioned perfectly Nishio did a great job in the realm of Aikido to create "this internal meaning".

[@susanohara4274]

Do try Daito-ryu Aikijutsu. It's very effective for the street!

[@JSMinstantcoaching]

@@susanohara4274 we can't live only with Words any more, if your claims are true, someone should be out there and prove it with video footages

[@budochanel7384]

LOVE

[@3dprintwiz378]

They should pressure test Aikido with Atemi, using Kudo helmets.

[@GreenwoodAikido]

Nishio Sensei was ranked in Shindō jinen-ryū karate under Yasuhiro Konishi, its founder. Nishio Sensei was known for integrating his understanding of other martial arts into his aikido. Aikido involves controlling without injuring so his use of atemi is to demonstrate patterns of movement, timing and position that are reflected in his aikido. If he were to actually strike the opponent it would just be karate kumite, which is widely practiced in the karate world. But that's not the purpose of aikido. There are other ways to pressure test in aikido without striking. For example, BJJ, judo and wrestling all involve pressure testing without striking. It can be practiced similarly in aikido.

[@thkun33]

Nishio shihan remind the aikidoka what is real. Aikido is not a dancing or demonstration only but a martial arts

[@reymicroc]

This is not aikido anymore this is karate

[@GreenwoodAikido]

I think this is true if you only view aikido as confined to a particular set of physical techniques. But Nishio Sensei saw aikido as a process of transforming materials from other martial arts (including jiu jitsu, judo, iaido, jodo, karate) into expressions that were aligned with the philosophical aspirations of aikido. O Sensei said "when I hold a sword my aikido is a sword, when I hold a jo my aikido is a jo." We can take this to mean that aikido can derive material from many different sources. This was a very central concept in Nishio Sensei's teaching regarding aikido.

[@jorachim]

Aikido has Atemi waza, that looks like karate but is aikido. O sensei Morihei Ueshiba said Aikido is Irimi and Atemi

[@tp4667]

kanai sensei swore by atemi

[@GreenwoodAikido]

Loved Kanai Sensei

[@zamolxezamolxe8131]

ah come on. it's aikidoka. dont spoil it with "aikidoists" 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@GreenwoodAikido]

This is a quote taken from an interview with Nishio Sensei done by and translated by the late Stanley Pranin so it's not for me to alter it. Stan was one of the worlds greatest experts on aikido's history and development. He was fluent in English, Spanish, French, Italian and Japanese and spent his life traveling throughout Japan and interviewing all the greatest living exponents of aikido and related arts. I'd say his translation and choice of terminology is pretty authoritative.

[@zamolxezamolxe8131]

@@GreenwoodAikido ah so according to this, it is judoist instead of judoka, kendoist instead of kendoka, karateist instead of karateka? yeah, sounds great. but since it was said by some aikido deity, it MUST be right. no way this is wrong. no no, because, as in the case of the pope, he are always right.

[@GreenwoodAikido]

@@zamolxezamolxe8131 I appreciate your passion regarding correctness in the use of these terms. Actually you're correct. It's common for English speaking practitioners of Japanese arts to use to the '-ist' suffix in referring to those arts, judoist, aikidoist, even ikebanaist! On the one hand, Japan has borrowed many English words which they alter to suit Japanese phonetics. English speakers might argue that they are pronouncing these words incorrectly, but that's not true. These borrowed words become part of Japanese language. In turn, when foreign words achieve enough usage among English speakers they are commonly altered to suit English grammar. Languages naturally experience this kind of evolution and syncretic modification. My kendo friend in France will very commonly use the term 'kendoiste.' As a quick example, Masahiro Imafuji out of the Shubukan in Itami City, a respected kendoist and author of a great little book I have on kendo for English speakers regularly uses the term kendoist to refer to his fellow practitioners and even his own father. Hopefully this is helpful.