Atheist Challenges The Muslim Understanding Of God! Muhammed Ali

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00:00 - Andy joins
01:30 - Critiquing The Islamic Concept
07:35 - Evidence Of God

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[@Misbah_Queen]

Palestinians Said No, But Israel Was Still Created. Now, If Palestinians Attempt To Reclaim Their Land, They Will Be Labelled 'Evil' And 'Terrorists' Where Has The Right Of Self-Determination For Palestinians Gone? Why Was The Right Of Self-Determination Denied? Do Palestinians Not Have The Right To Self-Determination? The Palestinians Were Living In The Land Of Palestine Before The Israelis Enter The Land Of Palestine. So, How Did Israelis Become The Owners Of The Land Of Palestine? When The Claim Of Israelis Is Ridiculous, Akin To Entering Someone's Home And Declaring, "I Am The Owner Because My Ancestor Lived Here a Long Time Ago." If Someone Did This, They Would Likely Be Reported To The Authorities And Will Go To Jail.

[@homtanks7259]

May Allah reward you brother and make you even more knowledgeable 🇵🇸🤲🏻

[@imposit]

Why cut down the dawa brother? It was interesting! U shouldn’t have to initiate the ending 😢

[@AdrianMuslim]

​​​@@imposit Because he wasn’t sincere and more fruitful conversations could be made with others who were waiting in the back without wasting time.

[@ryallemossi9360]

Brother @TheMuslimLantern can give the link to those studies u cited

[@AhmedAli-xg2te]

Let us not forget what our brothers and sisters in Palestine are going through. Free Palestine 🇵🇸 Stop Genocide!

[@not_mybrother7705]

Alhamdulilah. Jazakallah for the reminder brother.

[@jacquesbrol687]

Allahuma ameen ya Rabbi al 3alamine !

[@nogag8219]

What have you done about Palestinians other than shed crocodile tears

[@SB-vp5km]

​@@nogag8219He is spreading awareness about the situation. And what about you?

[@SolitudeWasHere]

hamas is a terrorist org

[@OneTrueMessageFoundation]

*“Have you seen him who takes his own lust (vain desires) as his ilah (god), and Allah knowing (him as such), left him astray, and sealed his hearing and his heart, and put a cover on his sight. Who then will guide him after Allah? Will you not then remember?”* (45:23)

[@khairiyusoff5040]

They choose hellfire

[@Earthling327]

If a comet crashes into Earth, everyone is in hellfire ,and ur god is just looking

[@seanou2837]

@@Earthling327 scrapping the bottom of the barrel?🤣

[@NC-kk3gn]

@@Earthling327 Yet, who allows the comet to crash ? 😜

[@Earthling327]

@@NC-kk3gn not mohamed! and by the way mohamed has been eaten by worms in the ground, worms of the earth he became nutrients for green nature whatever will happen to us

[@wissalwashere]

May Allah protect this brother MA from the evil eye and any evil thing, grant him the highest rewards in this life and the next. And may allah make him amongst those whose smiles are the biggest when seeing their records, and not be punished in the afterlife. Ameen✨🍒

[@arkb98]

Amin ya rabb

[@ummulbanaat365]

Ameeen ya Allah

[@PhillyPhilly1]

Ameen! Mashallah

[@serradjchouit2065]

Ameen

[@zkamaruz]

Amin

[@NurulHuda-xj8ob]

'I guarantee you, a punishment is waiting'. My bro got no time to mess about lol.

[@anggadi1564]

Yeah, that line got me

[@mhersi2dude]

No sugarcoating Allah’s promise

[@thickfish4011]

The classic believe or you are going to be torched for eternity in hell. That means nothing to an atheist because they are not stupid.

[@mohsenmaj5262]

@@thickfish4011if it means nothing why is he so scared of this punishment, and having to prove for himself that this punishment doesn’t exist. I thought god didn’t exist why care 😂

[@AbelOktavian]

​@@thickfish4011Means nothing ? Not stupid ? Sure , I mean then why bother asking such questions , you're an Atheist , you believe something came from nothing , you believe when you die suddenly all your life becomes "nothing" , who cares . God's punishment is not a threat , but a promise.

[@MrVWW]

Arguing for the sake of arguing without actually having a position....the modern athiest. May Allah guide him.

[@khairiyusoff5040]

Allah promise to disbelievers in Quran. [3:56] Then as to those who disbelieve, I will chastise them with severe chastisement in this world and the hereafter, and they shall have no helpers. [6:124] And when a communication comes to them they say: We will not believe till we are given the like of what Allah's messengers are given. Allah best knows where He places His message. There shall befall those who are guilty humiliation from Allah and severe chastisement because of what they planned. [10:70] (It is only) a provision in this world, then to Us shall be their return; then We shall make them taste severe punishment because they disbelieved. [31:24] We give them to enjoy a little, then will We drive them to a severe chastisement. [65:8] And how many a town which rebelled against the commandment of its Lord and His messengers, so We called it to account severely and We chastised it (with) a stern chastisement. [65:10] Allah has prepared for them severe chastisement, therefore be careful of (your duty to) Allah, O men of understanding who believe! Allah has indeed revealed to you a reminder

[@jacofalltrades7610]

sorry? lantern refuses to answer a question on tyrrany - because the atheist is an atheist. cowardly cop out. he lost before it started there

[@seeker_of_knowlage3568]

Yeah I quickly saw that. My man came here not to be convinced, he came for a fight and he lost it miserably.

[@jacofalltrades7610]

@@seeker_of_knowlage3568 can you explain? i do not believe in god, but that does not disqualify how i view that belief working within others. perhaps i am seeing it only from agnostic perspective and not combatively christian?

[@bilsid]

Came here posing as a millionaire customer who was projecting an image of a buyer, but in reality, his wallet was empty.

[@amanyhussein5806]

its crazy how those atheists are very angry with the God that they don't believe exists... ..i think they themselves are the best proof of the existence of the Creator

[@jawaadshahid]

They claim that they're critiquing the concept, but they have no standard to ground their criticism on. Like building a castle on sand

[@plstellmewhyimwrongagain8788]

Allah claims to be a moral god , so why is his prophet a pedo ? Does your god change day to day ? Why is your god against homosexuality and is also sexist? ​@@jawaadshahid

[@enamulhaquejoy6962]

​@@plstellmewhyimwrongagain8788Pedo according to who? If you look at your own grand grand parents or anyone before 1900 when the age of consent was less than 10, then you will call everyone pedo? 😂

[@plstellmewhyimwrongagain8788]

@@enamulhaquejoy6962 great starter, moving the goal post from the get go - did I say id defend any of that ? No , you assume falsely to promote your idea. That all in my opinion in dispecible, only dif is ill say that that all is wrong while you will try to justify a pedo prophet who was supposedly in contact w a moral god that doesn't change. Iv looked into Islam , it's as disappointing as Christianity.

[@seanou2837]

@@enamulhaquejoy6962 Mark14:51-52...ask them if Jesus stands scrutiny.

[@AA_Tawfik]

Excellent demonstration that atheists have no ground to question us Muslims and demand justifications. You can see how Mohammed turned the table around right off the bat! Allah Akabar! Allah says “But the might belongs to Allah, and His Messenger and the believers, but the hypocrites do not know (63:8)

[@umarejaz1136]

One million percent! These athiests aren't sure if they even exist, let alone if anything else exists. You'll get more knowledge and wisdom out of a 3 year old.

[@devinpledger2251]

Dumb as a rock XD

[@devinpledger2251]

@@umarejaz1136 You probably dont even know basic physics

[@user-yv1ty1ek1l]

even if they have a ground, they will have to doubt their own ground always, they cant say their ground is better than others cause they will never know and will ever be in doubt in everything they know now or in the future

[@ShatteredGlass916]

​@@user-yv1ty1ek1l their ground is easily replaceable anyway. As long as the one in power says "this is your moral ground now" they'd just follows that. Easily replaceable

[@aziz32144]

"Or were they created by nothing, or were they the creators?" Quran - Al-Tur 35

[@Theo_Skeptomai]

Have you ever personally witnessed any phenomenon (object, event, substance, entity, process, system, or being) to have been created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously pop into existence by the sole volition of a god? Yes or no.

[@aziz32144]

"And have you seen that [seed] which you sow? Is it you who cause it to grow, or is it We Who do so?" Waqiah 63-64@@Theo_Skeptomai

[@agp4580]

@@Theo_Skeptomai Have you seen the force behind the splitting and multiplying of a cell? Do you know why that occurs? How did the law of cell multiplication come into existence?

[@Visibleconfusion97]

​@@Theo_Skeptomaithe creator is beyond the boundry of time space and creation. So a being is existing from infinite time i.e eternal.

[@jonatand2045]

​@@agp4580 Nice argument from ignorance. You ignore cellular machinery which uses available materials to replicate.

[@2ARM4170]

"--Yet neither signs nor warners are of any benefit to those who refuse to believe." Surah Younus 101

[@khairiyusoff5040]

The problems of disbelievers: disease in their heart. [2:6] Surely those who disbelieve, it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them, will not believe. [2:7] Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing and there is a covering over their eyes, and there is a great punishment for them. [2:8] And there are some people who say: We believe in Allah and the last day; and they are not at all believers. [2:9] They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they do not perceive. [2:10] There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they lied.

[@alimy1119]

Give the man some time to contemplate, he heard new perspective today, let him digest it first and rebuild his worldview to have it challenged again

[@Poiseuille]

سبحان الله. Powerful verse!

[@jonatand2045]

​@@khairiyusoff5040 Incredible insight, you parrot unproven dogma to people and they don't believe.

[@khairiyusoff5040]

@@jonatand2045 you are the worst creatures. Please repent before its too late for you.

[@djibrilr6s]

Props to Andy for being respectful and listening to the points Muhammad made, may Allah preserve him for his efforts in da'wah.

[@JackJohnson-wg1ye]

Yes, may Muhammad’s dawah unharden his heart and may he go to Allah.

[@djibrilr6s]

@@JackJohnson-wg1ye What do you mean?

[@WhaleFall449]

@@djibrilr6s I think he meant May Allah guide him to become a Muslim

[@waheedrehman3368]

muhammad peace be upon him

[@djibrilr6s]

Oooh I thought he was a hater AMEEN@@WhaleFall449

[@user-ei7je7lo8n]

Maybe I'm wrong but when Brother Mohammed spoke, Andy seemed interested and sincerely listening. may Allah guide him towards the true path which is Islam. Ameen.

[@jean-pierresteenberg]

Aisha may Allah be pleased with her used to host parties where the imams used to compete how much "liquid" they could put on her. The one who covered the most white liquid got the most hasanat. Subhanallah! 😂

[@autisticman4396]

​@@jean-pierresteenbergme when I lie

[@rhlrhf]

@@jean-pierresteenberghow old are you man

[@maxamedshariif4878]

Mr low iq, who lied to you? 😂😂😂​@@jean-pierresteenberg

[@aziz32144]

"How many a sign there is in the heavens and the Earth which they pass by and they are heedless to it." Quran - Yusuf 105

[@khairiyusoff5040]

[3:56] Then as to those who disbelieve, I will chastise them with severe chastisement in this world and the hereafter, and they shall have no helpers. [6:124] And when a communication comes to them they say: We will not believe till we are given the like of what Allah's messengers are given. Allah best knows where He places His message. There shall befall those who are guilty humiliation from Allah and severe chastisement because of what they planned. [10:70] (It is only) a provision in this world, then to Us shall be their return; then We shall make them taste severe punishment because they disbelieved. [31:24] We give them to enjoy a little, then will We drive them to a severe chastisement. [65:8] And how many a town which rebelled against the commandment of its Lord and His messengers, so We called it to account severely and We chastised it (with) a stern chastisement. [65:10] Allah has prepared for them severe chastisement, therefore be careful of (your duty to) Allah, O men of understanding who believe! Allah has indeed revealed to you a reminder

[@ummulbanaat365]

Haqqun

[@jonatand2045]

Yeah. For example the quran says heaven and earth were separated, when in fact the earth was an insignificant piece of material from the universe. Indeed Muslims are heedless of science and logic.

[@jonatand2045]

Indeed they don't heed that in cosmology the earth was an insignificant piece of material, but the quran claims the heaven and the earth were separated.

[@jonatand2045]

Truly muslims do not heed science and logic.

[@7625e]

The prophet (pbuh) saying every human has fitrah alone is a huge statement that is a miraculous prophetic thing said. That has now been bolstered with science and studies subhanallah

[@abdirahmanessa7406]

@@lord.jesus.christ.followerfirst of all children aren't sinful by nature, just ignorant, how can you hold a child accountable for something he can't even comprehend, let alone God being the one holding him accountable, 2. Why would God need to sacrifice himself to himself to save his creation from himself? No matter how you spin it, it doesn't make any sense, why would anyone need to die for my sins, let alone God.

[@7625e]

@@lord.jesus.christ.follower God would not condemn us from birth. Yes we may incline towards fulfilling our carnal desires but every soul is born free of sin. God is a Merciful and Fair God and would never UNJUSTLY judge anyone for another person's sin i.e Adam and Eve's Sin. He forgave them when they regretted their action and repented to him He is the ever most Gracious and Ever Most Forgiving God. So no I have to disagree with you. I nor You were born into this world sinful. It is our actions (Good or Bad) after we become of age (Puberty/Mature) that decides what path we Lead. We are responsible for our action and will only be Given what our hands have wrought. Accountability is huge in Islam. That is the Chance Allah (God) give all of us, Quran 35:18 No soul burdened with sin will bear the burden of another. And if a sin-burdened soul cries for help with its burden, none of it will be carried-even by a close relative. You ˹O Prophet˺ can only warn those who stand in awe of their Lord without seeing Him and establish prayer. Whoever purifies themselves, they only do so for their own good. And to Allah (God) is the final return.

[@xxkokushiboxxkamado8119]

​@@lord.jesus.christ.followerلقد غفر الله لأدم الأطفال أبرياء إن الله هو الغفور الرحيم يقول الله في القرآن لقد تلقى أدم من ربه كلمات فتاب عليه إنه هو تواب الرحيم❤😊

[@raz0051]

I've watched Andy KZbin channel of him reading the Quran. Glad he came on here. I think he needs time to really think and get out of his bubble. May Allah guide him.

[@d_grimreaper]

Channel name?

[@TheConquest88]

I thought Andy made very good points which Muslim Lantern did not respond to.

[@mmau947]

​@@TheConquest88 which points?

[@TheConquest88]

@@mmau947 The very first point he made that a God who punishes humans if they don't believe enough rather than for their actions is petty and petulant. Very clear, very reasonable, totally puts it to the other side to make a response. Muslim Lantern responds that 'to believe is an action'. Completely irrelevant, disingenuous and childish. Then when Andy states that knowing the difference between right and wrong is a big human question, Muslim Lantern tries to make it seem like being an Atheist is equivalent to being immoral and that morals could only come from Allah, which makes no logical sense and also goes against the point that Andy was making that the God of Islam appears to be petulant and even evil. Why would you follow the morals given by a morally questionable deity when you can make better, more humane moral decisions by yourself? Andy also said people generally do bad things regardless of whether they believe in God or not. This is unquestionable. So religion is not an indicator of good morals but humans themselves. My gosh, I'm listening back to it now again, and Muslim Lantern's reaching with his points is so frustrating, he literally stretches from one response to make huge sweeping statements that are so ridiculous. His arguments are so basic.

[@iznij3284]

First point, actions are rewarded by their intentions, and if a person does not believe in a God, they also disregard the rewards he might receive from God for their action. You need to acknowledged that there is a rewarder to proclaim yourself as receiver of that reward. All actions in state of disbelieve are void. God has no obligation to cater to anyone who does not believe in His existence, they are non-existent to Him as they disregard His existence. You as a creation has obligation to determine the existence of God, Why you exist and where is your final destination. Ignorance has its own price one must pay. There are two objective principles in Islam : You reap what you sow and carrot and stick motivation to tempt and deter humanity from certain actions, and if someone is ignoring that, that is them being moral authority over themselves separate from God, which makes their actions irrelevant and void for God to consider to reward. Simple as that. Second point, there are no morals without God. All actions are amoral. Humans do not have authority to place moral judgments on anything or any situation. And more so atheists, who cannot explain source of reason from their worldview, so they do not have any logical position to place moral judgments on anything. As their source of existence is evolutionary based, that is not driven by reason and truth but survival. One person's good can be another’s bad - that is just objective fact, which makes morality without God null and void. So, anyone placing moral judgments of good, evil, right wrong, bad etc., from a Godless paradigm are making a baseless and subjective accusations. I meant to post my comment here, but seem to have posted it else where, so reposting.

[@rana_360]

This man deserve more subscriber . This so underrated channel i have ever seen. ❤ We should support him to reach out many people. Jazak Allah khayer

[@amnaaqeela8714]

Most of the time,they come to him question this & that but never subscribe, they got free knowledge, but not fhat thankful to ecen subscribe

[@spiritzen]

Andy was so confident, then got totally confused and bamboozled.

[@yusufbey1587]

That’s usually how it goes down 😂

[@-oy8vh]

Он похож на тех кто носит пальто и шляпу ))

[@khairiyusoff5040]

The problems of disbelievers: disease in their heart. [2:6] Surely those who disbelieve, it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them, will not believe. [2:7] Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing and there is a covering over their eyes, and there is a great punishment for them. [2:8] And there are some people who say: We believe in Allah and the last day; and they are not at all believers. [2:9] They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they do not perceive. [2:10] There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they lied.

[@alimy1119]

@@-oy8vh Может и похож, но это его не списывает со счетов, и возможного принятия истины в будущем

[@masoudhalaimzai5651]

I could see his brain working and realising he has some entrenched beliefs that aren’t so solid ahahaha 😅

[@omarjanko325]

That's why I never want to miss any of ur episodes. You tackle every challenge amazingly may Allah increase you in wisdom and knowledge May you live long brother Muhammed.

[@nelenel5230]

Surah Al- Hajj, verse 46 : "It is not the eyes that are blind, but their hearts which are in their breasts."

[@jonatand2045]

Yep, do not let facts get in the way of believing what you feel like.

[@TheConquest88]

@@jonatand2045 don't let the truth get in the way of a good story

[@masashadow1]

That was an excellent exchange and Muhammad Ali had the upper hand flawasly, The 3 quistions Muhammad asked Andy at 2:16 sealed the deal, and Andy even started to recognise the severity of ignoring the existence of God, or let's say the significance of objective morality. If you lived your life doing as you pleased without any moral anchor you will destroy your health, your family your neighbour or your society. And there is no way around that, even the governing laws that were in acts in the human history are remnants of Divine guidances. Complete atheism is complete Nihilism.

[@jacofalltrades7610]

many folks do not need rules from an unseen entity to live a good life. the most loving and moral people i know are agnostic.

[@TheHH77]

@@jacofalltrades7610 What is good and how do you determine them if you don't have rules?

[@jacofalltrades7610]

@@TheHH77 good can meet varying degrees of subjectvity and preference, but ultimately i would say the preservation and encouragment of ones life and others... utlitarian, choice should usually be the one that benefits the most, or takes the least away from someone else. we dont need to be puppets for an ancient book. we can think for ourselves

[@bobzeepl]

no, he did not, and he cut him off. the question is - if we are all born with belief in God, how come there are ahteists? this guy clearly didnt believe.

[@TheHH77]

@@jacofalltrades7610 that is the problem, subjectivity can't be used to set what is good or bad. Because everyone will have their own opinion and it will keep changing over and over forever and we will never agree on anything. Plus if you don't believe in God and the afterlife you will really regret that once you die and see the truth. All we want is to deliver the message to you and others that don't believe. This way I have done my job and responsibilities towards Allah and you will have no excuse in the afterlife to say no one told you so. Because honestly for me it doesn't matter if you believe it or not, this is for your own benefit.

[@vahithabanu3133]

"ARE YOU CERTAIN ABOUT YOUR UNCERTAINTY!?"...... MOHAMMED ALI AKA THE MUSLIM LANTERN. The best argument against atheist till this day.

[@MohamedElgaml207]

Yes , because after this we will begin to talk about irrational things like how are you sure that you exist and how are we sure that universe exist and all this irrationality So it's simple when you argue the atheist if he don't keep his arrogancy away he will get crazy ...

[@themotivational5439]

This is a smack down from the get go I pray Allah guides him

[@jonatand2045]

That's why i use the best arguments against islam. Scientific errors like man created from clay, earth spread out like a carpet or seed from between the backbone and the ribs. Logical ones like god having arbitrary properties like morality or dogma despite him supposedly being necessary. Take your pick.

[@TheConquest88]

Yeah I agree, Muslim Lantern got smacked down and had no answers so just spoke nonsense.

[@byron197]

@@jonatand2045the Quran also claimed multiple scientifically accurate facts. I’m too lazy to say it, but if you’re interested then look it up. I don’t see a reason for allah to make a mistake in some situations but be more accurate in others. I’m not sure what do mean by earth spread like a carpet or a seed from the backbone to the ribs, but I can clarify if you want.

[@jonatand2045]

@@byron197 I have seen them brought up and those verses have more than one interpretation. For example it is claimed the quran mentions the expansion of the universe, but there are no details to suggest it refers to the actual metric expansion of space. The traditional interpretation is more about allah being in power being the one who expands the heavens.

[@MohamedMohamed-tr2rz]

@@jonatand2045all of those so called “errors” have been debunked. All of them.

[@ElyasQuick1]

Islam is the only faith that can give you peace of mind, body and soul. Islam is intellectually satisfying, spiritually fulfilling and practically applicable.

[@mohamedorayith4626]

Beautiful

[@khairiyusoff5040]

All religions are false except Islam

[@nogag8219]

What is intellectual about an ideology that clearly says not to question it and follow it blindly. Islam breeds narrow mindedness and blind faith bcos without blind faith, Islam dies

[@ElyasQuick1]

@@nogag8219 Blind faith is atheism, liberalism, secularism and Christianity. Islam based on clear evidence such as the miracle of the Quran and biography of Prophet Muhammad ‎ﷺ.

[@jonatand2045]

@@ElyasQuick1 Yeah, like when the quran says the Earth was spread out like a carpet even though it is round. Or when it claims god has a moral code when a god doesn't need to pick one.

[@ElyasQuick1]

Islam is truth because Islam teaches strict monotheism, instills the best way of life for an individual, offers the best reorganization of society and state, and provides answers to existential questions. Religion that calls you to submit to The Almighty, commands you to live a clean life, and tells you to enjoin good and eradicate evil - such religion cannot be false. This is why Islam is the truth.

[@nogag8219]

So if some ideology believes in monotheism, then it must be true, right? What a non sensical logic.

[@yasaz6929]

@@nogag8219 No, because there aren't any religion or ideologies that believes in strict monotheism, so even your hypothesis cannot be applied at all. Plus, Islam doesn't only rely on monotheism, but in a perfect and moral way of life.

[@nogag8219]

@@yasaz6929 So Mo indulging in terrorism, pedophilia, polygamy, sex slavery is a moral way of life for you? Hypocrisy much?

[@nogag8219]

@@yasaz6929 Shows your ignorance when you say no other ideology believes in strict monotheism - ever heard of Zoroastrianism that Islam copied from

[@MoorfHiden-wq2ou]

​@nogag8219 So all religion who believe in one God make it to be true according to these muslim😂 the one who follow it most strictly, are the true one 😂 I mean basis of what ?? Its many religion who have one god. They supposed have no idea about that.

[@YEAGERlST]

If you read this; Say "SubhanAllah" 33x Say "Alhamdulillah" 33x Say "Allahu akbar" 34x May Allah reward you.

[@ayoubachak2154]

May Allah guide him ❤

[@user-hf5iv3rk4e]

ameeen

[@khairiyusoff5040]

Those enemies of Allah deserved to be cursed and punished severely.

[@g_4144]

@@khairiyusoff5040If he dies with that belief then yes. He still has time until his death , just make dua Allah guides him.

[@khairiyusoff5040]

@@g_4144 The problems of disbelievers: disease in their heart. [2:6] Surely those who disbelieve, it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them, will not believe. [2:7] Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing and there is a covering over their eyes, and there is a great punishment for them. [2:8] And there are some people who say: We believe in Allah and the last day; and they are not at all believers. [2:9] They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they do not perceive. [2:10] There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they lied.

[@ayoubachak2154]

@@khairiyusoff5040 الله يهدي من يشاء و يظل من يشاء

[@shoeb434]

Wish Muhammad Ali gave Andy more time. I watched Andy's videos on his channel and I am happy that he decided to come to this discussion.

[@faisalwho]

Gratitude. Disbelief is to deny God's favor upon you and that ingratitude.

[@jonatand2045]

Gratitude is a subjective value. It would be whimsical of a god to desire such a thing.

[@MohamedMohamed-tr2rz]

@@jonatand2045 Quran Chapter 14:7-8 addresses your point. Tl;dr Our gratitude to God is only for our benefit. God is Free of Need and our worship doesn’t add to Him in any way.

[@jonatand2045]

@@MohamedMohamed-tr2rz So much benefit he sends you to hell if you don't do it. Clearly our benefit isn't his priority, but there would be any reason for god to desire to create or to want his creatures to have a good time either.

[@manlikelee2142]

I used to work at Third Space Moorgate and I got dismissed after confronting a work colleague for throwing a verse in the Quran in the bin. The management refused to help or acknowledge what my colleague did was wrong. They insisted fired me for reacting and failed to investigate the incident. Could you all leave a bad review I will try sue them for discrimination and victimisation

[@MohamedMohamed-tr2rz]

Give us more details please brother

[@profs2981]

That’s an easy lawsuit

[@LambChop813]

I am curious to know if a better argument for the existence of God, when speaking with an atheist, would be the innate knowledge of mammals, insects, reptiles, birds, etc. These creatures instinctively know how to hunt for food, how to give birth, how to care for their young, etc., etc. They don't require handbooks with instructions. They function intuitively. The knowledge is innate. God is good! Sometimes, having a large brain and logic works against unbelievers. The existence of the Creator is obvious. Thank you, Muslim Lantern. I so enjoy your content.

[@RenderingUser]

They will probably argue that that is due to evolution or what not.

[@Visibleconfusion97]

​@@RenderingUsertrue. Its always million years of evolution and genetics that instill these premitive innate emotions thoughts and intuition in us 😪😂😂

[@sofianegames9827]

@@Visibleconfusion97 and the first cell that magically popped into existence on earth that created the fish and the fish reached land and became animals as we know them the fish who magically got created knew somehow to move to land xd the theory of evolution is basically a magic wand lol feels like a harry potter plot

[@Visibleconfusion97]

@@sofianegames9827 the universe as well. How the bigbang just happen to create these exact forces for the planets and stars to rotate around axis and have different forces and the atmosphere 😪 Then the planet earth just happen to have life from aliens and whatnot 😭😂

[@Visibleconfusion97]

@@sofianegames9827 they would believe everything but GOD That too with no certainity

[@mohamedhanad339]

Assalamu Alaikum to my fellow Muslim brothers and sisters, and hello to everyone else watching this video. I've just finished watching the video and I wanted to share a summary of the key points discussed. The video involves a discussion between an atheist and a Muslim brother about the concept of God. The atheist questions the idea of a punishing God, while the Muslim brother argues that belief in a Creator influences one's actions and morality. The conversation delves into the innate belief in a higher power and the nature of evidence for God's existence. 00:01: Debate on Belief in God and Moral Behavior 00:04: Questioning the nature of a god who demands belief and punishes non-believers. 01:02: The impact of belief in a Creator on moral behavior and actions. 01:58: Belief in a Creator influences one's actions and behavior in life. 02:34: The Influence of Belief in God on Morality and Actions 02:34: Belief in God influences actions and behavior. 02:38: Morality is determined by belief in God, impacting behavior. 03:27: Atheism linked to lack of objective morality and historical casualties. 05:06: Understanding Interpretation and Trusting Experience in Knowledge Claims 05:06: Determining right or wrong is not interpretation but following clear commands. 06:32: Trusting personal experience without doubt is key to knowledge claims. 07:38: Innate Belief in a Creator: A Universal Human Trait 07:38: Belief in God is innate to human nature, supported by studies on children and various civilizations. 08:26: Children exhibit natural belief in a higher power, reflecting a universal human tendency towards spirituality. 10:11: The Innate Beliefs of Human Beings and the Existence of God 10:11: Human beings have an intuitive belief in cause and effect. 10:32: Injustice recognition and self-awareness are innate beliefs in humans. 11:06: The belief in God is argued to stem from these innate beliefs. 12:43: Debate on Belief in God and Causality 12:43: Debate on evidence vs. belief in God 13:12: Discussion on the nature of purpose and causes

[@khairiyusoff5040]

The problems of disbelievers: disease in their heart. [2:6] Surely those who disbelieve, it being alike to them whether you warn them, or do not warn them, will not believe. [2:7] Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing and there is a covering over their eyes, and there is a great punishment for them. [2:8] And there are some people who say: We believe in Allah and the last day; and they are not at all believers. [2:9] They desire to deceive Allah and those who believe, and they deceive only themselves and they do not perceive. [2:10] There is a disease in their hearts, so Allah added to their disease and they shall have a painful chastisement because they lied.

[@irpanfauzi1160]

THIS Need to be Pinned and Added to Video time Stamp

[@EgyptianMau]

Amazing work brother, keep it up

[@ahmedofficialwarner]

May Allah reward you bro ❤️for your efforts and grant you good health

[@TheStoriesProductions]

What a beautiful line of reasoning by brother Muhammad Ali. He dismantles the atheist so well. The falsehood shatters when the truth arrives, indeed! Alhamdulillah ❤

[@jonatand2045]

I wish atheists used the best arguments like the quranic errors of man created from clay, the earth spread out like a carpet or the heaven and earth being separated at creation. Logically the arbitrary properties of allah like morality and dogma are unnecessary and replaceable.

[@TheStoriesProductions]

​@@jonatand2045 the athiests doesn't believe in "creation" of human being, they believe in evolution, which on surface seems to be fact, but got so many inconsistencies and had been challenged by reliable academia, so it is moot to discuss this point. For the earth being spread out like a carpet, it simply implies that it is made a floor for human beings. No muslim believe that the earth is flat, otherwise all muslims would've been Flat Earthers, whole 1.8 billion muslims, which tells you something. The word used "Al Ard" not only means earth, but also the land. Also the word "Dahaha" has the same root as "Egg". Also it was established even before Quran that earth is sphere. For the part earth being separated at creation, isn't it in line with athiestic and scientific world view? This is what big bang theory is all about, what's the objection here? I have been following so many debates and never once saw these errors prevailing in front of well versed muslims.

[@FreeP4l3stine]

@jonatand2045 U guys believe that humans evolved from big bang theory😂

[@jonatand2045]

@@FreeP4l3stine The big bang is the just the rapid expansion of the universe. Expansion can be observed with telescopes and calculated further back given the mass of the universe, among other variables. Evolution relies on genetic mutation and natural selection, which over many generations result in new species. It can be most easily observed in microorganisms because their generations are fast.

[@TheStoriesProductions]

@@jonatand2045 The expansion of universe was first established in science by Edwin Hubble in 1929, with the advent of technology like the Telescope. But this had been mentioned in the Quran 1400 years ago: "The heavens, We have built them with power. And verily, We are expanding it" (51:47) Isn't it interesting? For evolution, Muslims don't really object to the idea of evolution, but the idea that everything is evolved from a single cell. And how did the first cell came into existence? Every scientist puts a full stop there. They give random theories like all the necessary amino acids, proteins, structures, membranes, DNA, chromosomes, ribosomes, etc, all of those MAGICALLY get together and form a self-evolving cell, that had information of evolving into the most complex machinery of the universe. They can't just escape here on this point. And that's where our claim is that there is a phenomenon of creation as well. So is the case with BIG BANG. No physicist has able to substantiate what was before big bang, what caused the big bang. what was before the point of singularity and so on. Atheists don't believe in GOD, but they do believe in MAGIC, a happy coincidence, which is very interesting to me!

[@mustafaabdelkarim3323]

Thanks!

[@JadonBijo-]

Wow

[@sysonic917]

Incredibly intelligent, i hope inshallah I gain the knowledge and intellect you possess 🙏

[@ismailmohamed7730]

AlhamduliAllah 💕. Bro you have knowledge, may Allah protect you

[@BeterBorker]

so i started watching our brothers video and only after about two and a half minutes im already blown away at how easily he already destroyed the atheists arguments more than once.

[@one.path.onefaith]

ALHAMDULILLAH ISLAM IS THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH IS WITH ISLAM VERILY THE GUIDANCE OF TRUTH HAS REACHED YOU IN A CLEAR AND CALM MANNER

[@northernlight8857]

Truth is what the evidence show. Islam don't have that.

[@AkMS0505]

Jazak'llah brother; truth always prevail & GOD willing we all be guided to the right path before we die☝️

[@saadmohammad1110]

This guy is so determined to not let go of his atheistic beliefs and desires, despite getting absolutely solid responses & factual arguements to his questions, makes me just feel sorry for him!! May Allah guide him. Great job on brother Mohammads part as always, trying to continue the conversation with great patience & knowledge Mashallah but obviously had to let him go as we noticed he was just going in circles without providing any evidence for his position. May Allah increase your knowledge and reward you accordingly.

[@Mr.Muslim123]

Absolutely amazing. May allah reward you ya akhi mohammed just like you give us benefitial information and akhlaq. Jazaka allahu khairan

[@Mohammad_Qais]

Subahallah my brother ❤. The video just started 1:10 and my brother makes a great great point "believing is an action" really loved that. I love your way of dawah the most ❤

[@denzelnolet]

All things considered, he was very respectful and at least willing to listen.

[@breemo1991]

I'm a huge supporter of what you do since the beginning and would always direct ppl to your channel bcs you are patient, humble, polite and soft-spoken. Be careful about falling into arrogance and indifference. I'm a bit disappointed in how you've been conducting some of the conversations with nonMuslims lately. You don't take the time anymore or put an effort. I can understand not going above and beyond but you've gone the other extreme of not caring at all. It's probably fatigue. You might just need a break or a renewal of your intention. Salam.

[@gsxii1292]

There is a background to this, this guy have a channel dedicated to diss islam and he proudly calls him self an islamphobe and make fun of us and the prophet and Allah

[@ansatsaghat4689]

I'm so happy to see a proper discussion between them and it looked like Andy was listening to our brother. May Allah guide everyone to the right path

[@mohdmirza1228]

Man you're so smart akhi, may Allah swt preserve you and may the ummah strive to be knowledgeable as u are

[@samiirrrr]

Dear Mohammed Ali, this conversation was very unlike yourself. Usually you are very calm and poised and don't get into an argumentative mode. But in this video you were bit aggressive and talking over him, not really engaging in the discussion and you seemed to be annoyed. I have a feeling that you were just tired probably because there may be many more people you spoke with just before this person came to the stream and you were tired of talking? or perhaps you have dealt with such arguments many times in the past? or perhaps something he said ticked you off? But please be patient especially when the other person is showing the respect and being courteous. I will beg you to re-watch this video yourself and just observe the way he spoke and the way you spoke and take lessons from it. This could have been a really good discussion had it continued longer. But regardless, we all love you Mohammed for the sake of Allah and we love your dawah videos and the great work you are doing :) I have learnt so many things about Islam and so many things about how to have a debate/discussion/ give dawah to others from your videos. Wallahi I am giving this feedback from a good heart and to be taken in a positive way like an elder brother :) JazakAllah khayr.

[@unmouscat]

He was annoying, he was repeating the same thing and not answering what Ali asked. Anyone would get annoyed if they were wasting their time like that

[@sazzadahmed2297]

It has to do with Andy's content on his channel probably. But I agree there seemed opportunities to discuss things better.

[@berberbro]

I think that brother Muhammed also has to tread a careful line and not platform people that will only sow doubt. Having a platform like his also comes with great responsibility to everyone that might be listening and he has to make snap judgements in this. Andy seemed to want an open ended philosophical discussion about the subject, something that would have worked fine in his personal bubble. I think we as Muslims have to be very clear in what our religion is and not is. Brother Muhammad sensed I think very well here that Andy wanted to take the audience to a vague modern discussion about "believing in something" and perhaps some middle ground . Muhammad was not having any of it!

[@star-plumber]

Life is a test, so be the best muslim, pray and worship the Almighty creator Allah❤

[@nogag8219]

Why is it a test?

[@star-plumber]

@@nogag8219 its like in exam if you got good score you are rank 1, if you got low score you are losers Like doing good deeds worshipping god alone and dont do bad deeds

[@star-plumber]

@@nogag8219 Allah did not create the humans and the jinns except to worship him(Allah)

[@star-plumber]

@@nogag8219 purpose of life is to worship god

[@nogag8219]

@@star-plumber Really? Well that might be your purpose. My purpose is to to contribute positively to humanity. That is why Islam is anti-humanity bcos it forces people to worship god

[@faisalalsweidi1252]

To answer his question : The ones who know that there is a creator and deny him is not the same as the person who doesn’t know and is ignorant .. God doesn’t punish the ignorant - the ones who go against him KNOWINGLY is different.

[@hebrewdawah]

That’s not entirely true. Allah took the loins of mankind from Adam before they were put into a body and asked them “Am I not your God?” We all said “yes” 7:172. This is part of the reason why we all by default believe in Allah. Deep down we know. Those who may have an excuse are those who did not receive a messenger, those who were deaf, etc.

[@justarshad8354]

​@@hebrewdawah*This quranic text fits perfectly here and very beautifully explain by allah in this ayaat! And thats why doctors & psy etc says all humans have a natural instinct of believing in a higher power? -I mean, maybe thats why every single born baby/humans have this auto-tendency of believing in one true god? I think the right word for this phenomena in arabic is call 'fittrah'.. [But feel free to correct me if am wrong about this guys..] *And very sorry for my bad writting..English aint my mother tongue.. But i hope you did get my point.. jaazakallah!

[@thickfish4011]

@@hebrewdawah If that were true why do people follow other religions? I can certainly say I feel nothing of that sort.

[@Mohamed--Aden]

@@hebrewdawah those who did not know would be a part of this since that would mean they never got the message Allah knows best

[@abdulrahmanal74]

May Allah protect the editing team , their efforts is so impressive, especially the bullet points during the conversations Mashallah Tabarakallah amazing!

[@hanymut1721]

Assalamualaikum Alhamdulillah ... thanks for New video brother❤

[@whome4851]

You should of tell him that there is no "atheist " in a sinking ship or crashing plane.

[@md.shahadathossain8880]

Because instinct kicks in,when you are defenseless like a child

[@TheConquest88]

What does it prove that in their final moment, when helpless and facing almost certain death a person might cry out to a higher power for mercy or guidance? It proves nothing other than the person is scared and helpless

[@locococo7362]

Let's assume this is true, that's ironically more an argument for atheism that for theism. It shows that people need to believe in something because its conforting, regardless if it's true.

[@panduvandal]

@@locococo7362 ain't that pathetic for atheist place

[@northernlight8857]

That is a bad argument and it's not true. It's an erroneous meme that has been debunked many times.

[@zonnorainmohamedyassin4221]

Thank you, *Brother Muhammed Ali* ♥️♥️♥️♥️ جزاكم الله خيرا • بارك الله فيكم ♥️

[@Gio23.]

سُبْحـانَ اللهِ وَبِحَمْـدِهِ عَدَدَ خَلْـقِه، وَرِضـا نَفْسِـه، وَزِنَـةَ عَـرْشِـه، وَمِـدادَ كَلِمـاتِـه!

[@Fire_Gamer_69]

MashaAllah brother!!

[@FeedTheSoul114]

Muhammad handled that masterfully. From beginning to end, I need to rewatch and absorb this one. WAllahi MashaAllah ✨.

[@northernlight8857]

What did you think was good with his approach? Which argument did you think was good?

[@vortexvampire]

بارك الله فيكم... اللهم اغفر لوالدينا و ارحمهما و اجمعنا معهما في الفردوس الأعلى مع الأنبياء و الشهداء و الصالحين و جميع موتى المسلمين.. اللهم احقن دماء المسلمين و انصرهم على من عاداهم.. رب إني مسني الضر و أنت أرحم الراحمين... لا إله إلا أنت سبحانك إني كنت من الظالمين..... .'''''............'' . . .............

[@Tamudunya]

May Allah rewards you with jannah brother.. ❤

[@furqes]

My past experience says rattle snakes are poisonous, and their bite can be fatal but hypothetically this rattle snake may not be poisonous.

[@Nothinglawr]

May Allah protect our whole ummh in specially of Palestine, India and Netherlands Muslims in these countries are in very dangerous situation 😢

[@livinghuman2298]

Good discussion, respectful from both sides, i wish all discussions were like this.

[@Nothinglawr]

My dear brother, I'm in first not a good Muslim lot of questions in my mind, after listening Your every videos now my imma is very strong ❤❤❤

[@basil1400]

I have been watching this dude for a while lol i was surprised to see him jump in

[@mohamedazmy6207]

Brother mohamed we need a translation to arabic please i hope you see my comment and i appreciate all of your videos muslim from Egypt barak allah feek akhi

[@Daddy-do8bn]

Dawah KZbinrs Arabic بترجم

[@mohamedazmy6207]

@@Daddy-do8bn انا أعلم يا أخي و لكن انا أقصد لقناة محمد علي أنه علي الأقل يبقي في ترجمه في الcaption

[@tafuppittsburgh]

M.a. salaam khayee ,🫡love ur videos .. MASHALLAH . So much wisdom ...

[@DwikiIkhwan]

Akhy Muhammed, please reach out to him again. He is curious and confused, may Allah open his heart to accept Islam

[@nullunullu7990]

Aslam alyikumu warahmatullah wabarakatuh brothers and sisters ❤❤❤❤

[@relaxedmonster]

I watched his channel once. It was infuriating but I like to see him here.

[@henczzz2035]

It's calming to watch brother Muhammad he always try to have a discussion not debate

[@wahiedsadat6999]

Such a high lev of knowledge in such a young age ❤

[@z1adfps297]

They philosophize and make things difficult for themselves, and when you defeat them in philosophy, they say, “Why are you philosophizing?”

[@MohamedMohamed-tr2rz]

For people who claim rationality, they posit absurdities

[@janissary.yeniceri]

Alhamdulillah ☝🏼

[@Geniuschad]

Turkmusun

[@janissary.yeniceri]

@@Geniuschad evet Türküm

[@RR-vh2rx]

May Allah reward you for your work

[@rzlb5]

"you doubt something without a reason & then you become crazy" That would be the key words for this conversation.

[@coolz123123]

Your arguments are always great and you explain things well! If there was something that can be improved led (if I may) is that I think the atheist guy did not quite understand the point of “universal truth” I know it might be a waste of time, but I had a feeling he actually didn’t grasp it and when someone isn’t exposed to that knowledge and if they know they’re on camera, it’s even harder to understand fresh new concepts. I wish you could break it down for him a bit more. He mentioned irrelevant things such as “kids believe in cloud faces” that shows he completely missed the point of what a universal truth is and I think he was being sincere, but just didn’t understand that those cloud faces are concepts of when they get into older and influenced by society and some kids don’t have their which means it isn’t “universal” Whereas belting in god is all across the board without influence, something we are born to believe in

[@user-if8db3zh7x]

MashaAllah! ❤☝

[@ahmedadawy1238]

May Allah bless you brother Muhammad Ali

[@homtanks7259]

JazakAllah'u khairan brother 🇵🇸🤲🏻

[@Rizwaan_Nazir]

Love And Respect From indian occupied Kashmir ❤

[@AshfaQ9556]

Boi kati peth.

[@AshfaQ9556]

Boi kati peth.

[@marouan-sa86]

الله ابارك فيكم اثبتوا على الحق الحمد لله

[@ashj5952]

May Allah give you strength and patience to battle with occupation. May Allah give the Muslim Umma the guts and the feeling of shame for their silence so they may take action against this oppression.

[@Rizwaan_Nazir]

@@AshfaQ9556 pulwama

[@6sense651]

He's already roasted at the 1st argument 😂

[@harizu_5182]

I think he is genuinely trying to find the truth tho. Lets not think this is a debate for the sake of arguing. May Allah guide him

[@6sense651]

You're right and I would still keep the comment so the others wont misinterpret it like me

[@ieltstutor9644]

@@harizu_5182Andy just want to argue. He admitted that he is a hyper sceptical person.

[@mohamedabdulle9031]

Asalaamu aliakum wr wb Brother mohamed Godpless you Allaha reward the good things you're doing

[@backpackersstudiobd]

*Thanks for the book covers. it will be easy to find. Great work.*

[@mohamedshahin2009]

جزاكم الله خيرا

[@edinpandzic5838]

this atheist is tyranical because he expects his car to take him places...

[@chinesecovidanalswabs4752]

It's funny because you can take his logic for a lot of things and take them to the extremes.

[@d-dayd-day7913]

لا اله الا الله وحده لا شريك له

[@alimbo9436]

Subhanallah, Muhammed you made things very clear here for me. Belief is an action and one we should be judged on. It all comes down to arrogance and pride vs. submission and humility.

[@northernlight8857]

It comes down to a lack of critical thinking and bad epistemology vs a pursuit of truth and challenging ideas.

[@ReasonedSeeker]

​@@northernlight8857nah it just come down to make everything over complicated and with desire to reject innately belief in the existence of God for your own desires and arrogance in considering yourself smart @ss and denying god and having become so toxic that you see religious talks as fanaticism

[@ReasonedSeeker]

​@@northernlight8857simple thing no one in west as atheist want to be stopped from certain things because of their fanatic desires they become 100% enemy or consider the religion false they became blind in their worldly desires. They choose Excuses that intellectually dose not make sense, they take example from those who do wrong but since they call themselves muslim or from religion than that religion teaches that. They seek perfectness from religious peoples.

[@h.5000]

جزاكم الله خير الجزاء

[@halaali8547]

Say لا إله إلا الله وحده لا شريك له، له الملك وله الحمد وهو على كل شيء قدير And send prayers for the prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him اللهم صل وسلم على نبينا محمد

[@saadsb7637]

Alhamdulilah for Islam and everything

[@Aaa506a]

جزاك الله خيرا

[@fallasleep9472]

Respect to Andy being respectful and honest. Need more people like him. May Allah guide him.

[@naeemulhoque1777]

May Allah protect brother Muhammed

[@ScoobyFahmi922]

I think Andy just wanted argue any reason so that he can feel comfortable doing what he wants to do but if you look at him closely when the brother MA was saying certain things, you can see it resonated..

[@henriquesombiga4338]

Absolutely amazing

[@nitipoomgut1699]

as he said..... he doesn't even know what is moral..... what a joke for him to say our god is evil.... best thing you can do is to re educate yourself.... and if god wills you will find the way

[@munirnegash3]

Athiest have no problem submitting to american laws and rules…but when it comes to Allah it is an issue. SubhanAllah

[@nogag8219]

Atheists have no problem with the laws of the land bcos they are made by democratically elected representatives of the people. Something that religious nuts can never understand bcos u rather blindly believe in a medieval book that can never evvolve. How come u don't practice sex slavery just like that book tells u to do?

[@firdyk]

Subhanallah. Jazakallah Khairan brother

[@dose143]

May Allah guide Andy

[@FOOTSHOTS1]

This guy is reading the Quran on his youtube channel, he already did a great step, which is reading the Quran , but with a big baggage of prejudices, interpreting the Quran as he wishes, but he seems a well mannered dude