Atheist Experience 23.48 with Matt Dillahunty & Don Baker

The Atheist Experience #1156 for November 17, 2019, with Matt Dillahunty and Don Baker. Go Soul. Don talks about the silly notions about what your soul might do after you die.
00:23:45 Brian - OH - Has proof god exists, it’s Tim Tebow.
00:27:15 Charles - TX - Historical events caused by Jesuits?
00:28:03 Joel - AL - Claims to have proof of reincarnation
00:31:35 Patrick - FL - What is sufficient evidence for the existence of god?
00:38:25 Paul - UK - Has definite proof that all the gods don’t exist
00:47:25 Jonathan - AZ - Claims to have found a false argument by Matt
00:59:03 Jeroen - Curaçao - Invited a missionary in to discuss miracles, they deconverted.
01:11:45 CC - Canada - Has evidence for god and he reconverted to Catholicism
01:21:20 Eddie - NY - Believer who has doubts, needs help with understanding.
01:32:34 Rick - Canada - Proof the Big Bang is in the bible and science is in the bible too
SHOW NOTES
Don is back with his list of Christian Failures. This week, Don continues to talk about souls for the 3rd time. He talks about where the soul goes when you die, spoiler alert: the soul doesn’t exist and it doesn’t go anywhere. If you’re following along and keeping track, this is topic #69.
Let’s get to calls. The first caller is Brian from Ohio. He claims Tim Tebow is miraculous, it’s also a miracle that he wore 3:16, and everything lined up for a win 7 years ago. Ummmm… No. How do you determine it’s a miracle and how does it translate into proving a god.
Oooh, this one is quick. Charles from Texas lists off historical events and claims it was all caused by the Jesuits. Nope, goodbye!
The following caller named Joel from Alabama has a bald assertion that the soul is reincarnated through universal awareness. Instincts do not relate at ALL to reincarnation. There is also no evidence for this.
The next caller in the queue is Patrick from Florida wanting to discuss why atheists don’t believe that god is the universe. We aren’t trying to redefine the universe as god. What attributes or properties justify putting a god label on the universe? (Answer: it’s not worth it and makes you seem ridiculous.)
Next up, Paul in London, UK has proof that no gods exist. This assertation needs to be under the same scrutiny as the claim that there is a god. The burden of proof is on Paul here due to his claim.
Afterwards we have Jonathan from Arizona. He called in to talk about Matt’s argument that alien abduction is more plausible than god and how that argument is false. It actually is plausible and could happen because it wouldn’t be a supernatural event. You do not get to assert that it is supernatural.
Subsequently, Jeroen in Curaçao feels guilt about deconverting someone who he invited into his home where they discussed and dismantled miracles and other religious ideology.
Next up, Catholic “Clearly” Canadian in Canada definitely has evidence for god. It’s why he reconverted to catholicism. Where and what is your evidence, eh?
Next caller, Eddie from New York is disgusted with immoral believers and is troubled by what he used to believe. He is having a really tough time, hang in there Eddie, you have community with us here. Please contact the kind folks at Recovering from Religion. They can help: www.recovering...
Finally, we have Rick from Canada. Claims the big bang is in the bible along with scientific facts. Sorry, science doesn’t work that way.
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00:23:45 Brian - OH - Has proof god exists, it’s Tim Tebow. 00:27:15 Charles - TX - Historical events caused by Jesuits? 00:28:03 Joel - AL - Claims to have proof of reincarnation 00:31:35 Patrick - FL - What is sufficient evidence for the existence of god? 00:38:25 Paul - UK - Has definite proof that all the gods don’t exist 00:47:25 Jonathan - AZ - Claims to have found a false argument by Matt 00:59:03 Jeroen - Curaçao - Invited a missionary in to discuss miracles, they deconverted. 01:11:45 CC - Canada - Has evidence for god and he reconverted to Catholicism 01:21:20 Eddie - NY - Believer who has doubts, needs help with understanding. 01:32:34 Rick - Canada - Proof the Big Bang is in the bible and science is in the bible too

[@NoelRayland]

I liked Patrick from FL. He reminded me of the wolf in the Droopy cartoon Sheep Wrecked.

[@klumaverik]

If I ever call in, imma have lose yourself by Eminem playing in my head with mom's spagetti on my sweater already.

[@triplejudy]

The bullshit people come with in order to justify their god delusion is beyond a joke.

[@SivatejaKanithi]

Hands down my Favorite host combo !!! y’all rock !

[@hayimliam]

Couldn't agree more! Don's laugh mixed with Matt's scowl is so satisfying to me.

[@asdfffs]

I really miss Tracie :/

[@SivatejaKanithi]

Liam Hay I agree ! They balance each other so well

[@SivatejaKanithi]

asdf me tooooo ://

[@juniorkemmish4183]

@@asdfffs she is so intelligent....

[@lukeymuffler6265]

Matt's mood is basically how I feel all the time!

[@marrllly]

As you should

[@seanbirch9663]

@@Steppinrazor907 What an utterly vapid and empty statement

[@jbnationII]

YEAH. IT'S CALLED HUMAN BEHAVIOR.

[@davidanewman3916]

Kevin Stewart yes brother! These people do not realize what they do! They MUST repent before the sun sets on the last day and everyone can here hosanna in the sky and the lord resurrected Jesuit of The Nazarene will rise again and send them all into firey pit for eternity with dragon while me and you will safely be in heaven fondeling the one true king

[@InteractiveIdea]

Probably coz you watch the show a lot and it robs off on you

[@notwhatiwasraised2b]

After years of watching this show, it's still really hard to believe these callers are sincere.

[@rickdees251]

Most of them are scaringly sincere. Humans are deeply flawed.

[@notwhatiwasraised2b]

@@rickdees251 I hope you're wrong and this is all a case of a tiny minority having whatever it takes to call the show. Most of the time I feel for the callers, who are probably expressing their thoughts aloud for the first time.

[@angeloiannitelli6589]

The callers may or may not be sincere, but I have definitely had these exact same conversation with believers long before I ever heard of the show. One of them happens to be my sister who is mosty an intelligent person, the blinders just go up when it comes to religion and politics

[@johnbull1986]

@deadend you're claiming the ACA have stooges that phone in? Why do you think they would do that?

[@johnbull1986]

@deadend just an assertion then. If we're going with assertions then I assert that you're a weasely theist who is here to try undermine the TAE.

[@chrisducharme1729]

I always love the “it’s too much of a coincidence” argument. Clearly, they don’t understand coincidences.

[@jazzhuman]

"Family values" is a code word for "patriarchy".

[@Theproclaimed]

Which is strange because patriarchy isn’t practiced in the western world currently

[@inoli5124]

@@Theproclaimed oh please, you never met my dad. The absolute unquestioned patriarch of his family.

[@passivepuppy]

The callers were especially whacky today.

[@SamIAm-kz4hg]

Yup. What a complete waste of time. I used to think I was just average (and I suppose I still do), but "average" people seem to be supremely dense. I'm stunned that the world is full of adults like the ones on today.

[@aegisgfx]

didja see last week??

[@VasBaev]

​@@aegisgfx that's a tough choice between the two tbf

[@astrophotos8368]

John McKay I wouldn’t pathologize a caller lol. That’s not wise. Advising Eddie to seek professional help is, as you’ve done. He seems older, so it’s not likely that he will seek help as the elderly tend to attribute their physical symptoms due to their acquired psychological ailments to a physical condition and may be at a risk of hypochondriasis (because of age and fear of death) as a result. I agree to your point that the ACA seems to attract many people from all over, but I’ve seen people that have distressing personal issues more often lately. If you’ve seen Talk Heathen today, you’ll know what I mean. It’s almost as if the ACA is turning itself into FFR, but I’m sure the hosts are always happy to help as they should.

[@LucianCorrvinus]

How could you tell?

[@jbnationII]

"OH MY GOD. PUT DOWN THE BONG AND LISTEN TO ME" = PRICELESS

[@samsatogardner]

You know what? That guy posted his argument in a video titled, "refuting dillahunty". He thinks he won the argument...

[@coletrickle1775]

I uhhhhhh, pick up the bong while listening to this show all the time.

[@coletrickle1775]

@@samsatogardner You can't fix stupid.

[@crocopix]

@@coletrickle1775 well, you can fix him but it against human rights.

[@CaptainRetroStation]

@@coletrickle1775 Hey, hey, hey! Smoke weed every day!n😎👍

[@jeffholland3502]

Matt "attacks" an atheist (for his improper arguement). My already high respect level for Matt, goes up.

[@kinglyzard]

Nothing says integrity like impartiality.

[@astrophotos8368]

That caller was incredibly slow. It took him minutes to finally understand Matt’s point that the god claim is un-falsifiable. Un-falsifiability operates as a substratum and only fosters the belief. That coupled with any sort of evidence one can attribute to their god(s) makes it incredibly difficult to free an individual from the chains of religion.

[@samsatogardner]

Sure, that said -- it's silly to hold out any sort of belief a deity exists because someone's might claim their deity is under a rock on Jupiter. In reality, no one claims that. For all practical purposes you don't need to show that any hypothetical god doesn't exist, merely the ones that people truly hold.

[@robstammers7149]

The level of intelligence in these replies is just amazing, yeh, amazingly dumb and disrespectful.

[@mikeyuskiw3477]

@@astrophotos8368 can you explain that point again to some of the other religious people arguing with us in the comments section here because that point has been missed.

[@rawhideleather]

I used to think that perhaps I wasn't very intelligent compared to many other people but after listening to literally hundreds of hours of this show and the Theists that call in who represent the vast majority of people here in the U.S. - I'm starting to feel like a frickin' genius!

[@Altitudes]

You can always tell it's going to be weak when someone spends five minutes talking about what evidence is rather than leaping straight to presenting the evidence.

[@kayelbee3798]

Altitudes They usually have to do that because atheists try to reject all of the evidence that is in their face. So Matt spends his time trying to eliminate all of the evidence so he can say now that I have restricted everything you have as evidence, prove it. So ridiculous.

[@Altitudes]

@@kayelbee3798 Nope. All you have to do is say "I have a deductive/inductive/abductive argument" or "I have empirical evidence". It takes literally one sentence. It doesn't need five minutes of prevaricating.

[@kayelbee3798]

Altitudes Because Matt will spend the next 5 minutes trying to tell the caller why he won’t accept their logical, deductive reasoning and then spend the next 5 minutes explaining fallacies that have no bearing on whether what they said was valid or not. His groupies will have plenty of time to sit through that.

[@Altitudes]

@@kayelbee3798 That's irrelevant. If you just outright ask Matt if he accepts sound arguments then he'll say yes. So you don't need to spend time explaining that an argument can be evidence, you can just shortcut straight to the argument. If you then don't like Matt's response, that's fine, but at least you've saved us all some time.

[@kayelbee3798]

Altitudes If Matt saves time by NOT rejecting sound evidence and NOT reciting a list of fallacies, which his groupies seem to have plenty of time for, callers wouldn’t feel the need to explain what evidence is and what makes evidence valid. They would start with their evidence.

[@Wolf.51.50]

In his phone call with Paul - UK, Matt shows everybody what intellectual honesty is. Hats off.

[@IanD-ut4dy]

Matt coming to Glasgow is awesome news! Never thought I'd get the opportunity here, cannot wait!

[@williamfrazier5010]

Been a casual viewer on and off for years and the thing that always strikes me is believers drag out the same old "proofs" over and over again and so many of them act like they hit on something new and groundbreaking. How you folks have the patience to listen to the callers over and over and over is amazing. You're better people than me, for sure. Keep up the good work.

[@Locust13]

That "devout papal Catholic" cracked me up. Most desperate tap dance I've ever seen. "there is evidence" what is the evidence? "...there's a lot of evidence" ..what is the evidence? "it's an accumulative case" ..ok.. what is the evidence? " you have a misconception of what evidence is" what IS the evidence? " you misrepresent the evidence" okay goodbye

[@Mr.BadExampleMT]

No Matt! If you debate Kanye "Slavery Was a Choice" West, I'm afraid you will have an aneurism!

[@Mr.BadExampleMT]

@I'm Telling While I can agree that prisons employ some aspects that could be reasonably interpreted as being a form of slavery and are woefully mismanaged in the US, Mr. West was referring to the transatlantic slave trade.

[@Mr.BadExampleMT]

@Born Again Atheist No. I'm not saying slavery was a choice. Kanye was the one saying that.

[@grandchessboard2435]

@I'm Telling Dude, you are one sick freak.

[@Mr.BadExampleMT]

@I'm Telling It's not delusion. It's indoctrination. I've worked with people who are real deal delusional and it's not the same. They are not perpetrators. They are victims. Being told a lie and believing it doesn't make you a bad person. As somone who supposedly had a rough time in prison I find it really odd that you are wishing that experience on others over simple disagreements. While I suspect this is some sort of poe larping, I'll give you the benefit of doubt and assume you got a case of waking up rage. Have a beer, listen to some Hendrix, and calm down. You'll feel better.

[@Mr.BadExampleMT]

@I'm Telling Ya... I'm sorry but what you are saying is so cartoonish I can't possibly take you seriously. I've never seen an atheist refer to themselves as a "hard core materialist" or use the "we're just chemicals, man" argument outside of Christian movies. You also seem to have no clue what the selection pressures are for humans because the "bigger better stronger smarter" model is not how social mammals work. Next time you want to larp as an atheist try dialing it back a couple dozen notches, because I'm not the first person to out you as a poe. From what I've seen you've been called on your shit in nearly every thread you posted in. I don't know what herb you think "beer" is or in what universe you think beer is smoked. I also don't see why you think sane people are somehow new agers. If you are sincerely jockeying for the despotic rule of the intelligentsia, I'd urge you to reconsider. Because it seems you are vastly overestimating where your place would be in that particular pecking order. I've read Russell, Huxley, and Darwin and they all disagree with you on civics and interpersonal philosophy. You should try reading them sometime. It may help tempur your self image into something closer to resembling reality. A little Camus would help too.

[@pollypockets508]

I like Don's laugh too

[@alquemist7532]

But I feel that he laugh very easily even if the statement may not be that funny that it could be distracting to the conversation. :)

[@shubamama1]

Gives me a Ed McMahon vibe

[@aaronstevens7021]

He laughs after everything he says because he is very nervous. Its annoying.

[@alquemist7532]

@@aaronstevens7021 I do not want to be critical because i probably won't do any better than Don and I really appreciate his dedication, but i also feel that when a caller states his problem, the advise that he gives is very general. He and maybe Matt sometimes do not try to find out more details about the problem. For example, a caller call having problem with his theist relatives, the advise is to seek online community right without finding more about the problem. Sometimes, i feel bad about the caller because they genuinely seek help.

[@pollypockets508]

@@alquemist7532 I do that too. I can relate. Anxious laughter

[@Juzisimp]

Wow this bunch was crazier than even the normal batshits that call in.

[@lmnop1022]

Imagine how many nutjobs we still haven't heard from.

[@Webfra14]

An "Onslaught of nutters" someone once said...

[@totheknee]

This is becoming a trend. The theists are all running out of options now that they're in every corner imaginable, so they don't call in anymore.

[@samsatogardner]

I think they were likely just better at expressing themselves...

[@voiceoftruth2646]

The REAL bullshit, is believing in magic. That things bring themselves into existence from nothing.

[@MrShigura]

Just once it would be nice if a theist caller actually bothered researching whether their argument has already been addressed before dialing...

[@MrShigura]

Kevin Stewart The fact that you’re too dim to recognize the glaring flaws in your magic cult beliefs doesn’t mean they aren’t there.

[@Ashenshugura]

@@MrShigura Research? Bah! Theists have 'faith' 😞

[@philiplynx6991]

@deadend The problem with that idea is that if you're watching the video you are literally looking at a religious person who was reasoned with, as Matt USED to be religious, not to mention the many emails he has apparently gotten over the years talking about how the show and/or his words and arguments convinced people to abandon religion. Some religious people cannot be reasoned with to be sure, whether that be due to heavy indoctrination or financial interest, but the idea that religious people in general simply aren't capable of reason is not only demonstrably false it's counter-productive, as how many current atheists would still be theists if people had simply given them up as lost from the start?

[@ProudCommie]

Kevin Stewart no theist has ever had a decent argument

[@dannybolman7739]

There is nothing new.

[@seans4893]

“If there is a theme to this show it’s that people seem to want to rescue the concept of god”. So true Don.

[@timbohp]

This was actually one of the more satisfying shows. Thanks for cutting of the false ramblings of people who want to change universally known definitions to their own version in order to make their hypothesis work.

[@Mrmoe198]

anti-anti-intellectual x Indeed! I’ve learned from Matt not to take this shit especially in regards to the mixing definitions of “faith” using to mean “belief in what there is no evidence for” and “trust/reasonable expectation” in the same argument. I’ve used his tactics to great effect talking to the annoying Jehovah’s Witnesses that set up shop at my school.

[@richardvoyer5697]

Just him threatening humanity with eternal torment , should be more than enough to denounce him .

[@richardvoyer5697]

@@Steppinrazor907 ; ok , but the ones who believe that are believing in a deranged god .

[@doctorshell7118]

Whack off fantasies, LOL! Dan cracks me up and sums up religion quite aptly.

[@solentbum]

I have noticed that each time I drive to Sheffield and back my tripmeter ALWAYS shows 316 during part of the journey. That is a real miracle! and proof that Miles exist

[@carlosc6983]

Don has met his match with Jonathan. They will "Hahaha" to the death.

[@richardjchapman2261]

As Adam said to Eve. ... "Stand back !, I don't know how big this thing gets "

[@geraldodonnell2595]

❤❤👍👍👍👍👍 for the Hosts and Crew

[@DexterDexter123]

Imagine my surprise to find out from this video that Matt is coming to speak in my home town in the uk, but after a quick Google, is also speaking at my place of work! Tickets acquired.

[@DexterDexter123]

Gonna be filming it for them now, too. Ha.

[@Zook85]

Imagine Kanye sitting there with that constant scowl on his face.

[@seanbirch9663]

He has that in common with Eminem.

[@IllustriousCrocoduck]

Kanye shows up "I am Yeezus, what's the problem here??"

[@kinglyzard]

@@IllustriousCrocoduck Yeezus wearing T-shirt saying "I'm with stupid".

[@theyeticlutch3486]

@@IllustriousCrocoduck lol

[@voiceoftruth2646]

Imagine an atheist sitting there with that fucking stupid ass look like....

[@ants41]

"Sorry to be sciencey on you" - Don Baker 2019

[@Mrmoe198]

mike mj84 yeah if that’s callers idiotic “science experiment held any water, it would be headlines all over the place of: ”hey look we’ve just disproved the laws of thermodynamics”.

[@BeeTeaDubs]

...yeah? I don't think you get the extremely overused quote comment trend.

[@ants41]

@@BeeTeaDubs I don't get what you think I'm not getting...

[@joerusso7851]

I always loved Don's laugh. I would buy the pay per view to see Matt Dillahunty debate Kanye West!

[@kinglyzard]

Kanye is low hanging fruit.

[@kinglyzard]

@WTF Again? Atheists hate Black people? That's a new one. Got any more lies, Kanye

[@trybunt]

I think his laugh can be taken as condescending, and maybe that's why people don't like it.

[@joelonsdale]

I would pay to never have to hear Kanye West and his nutcases ramblings.

[@crystalheart9]

In second grade the nuns said when we go to heaven we will be on our knees praising god for all eternity. I thought that was the scariest thing I had ever heard!

[@Motofiend]

Does any one else get adds for churches and other apologetics prior to these vids?

[@TwoEcksKay]

Always, and on any other atheist KZbin channels. It makes sense, they're targeted ads and they're trying to convert atheist or reel back doubters.

[@mechanix1960]

@@TwoEcksKay I always thought they love to support the atheist channels, but you're making a point ...

[@astrophotos8368]

mechanix1960 not how ads work...

[@musiqal333]

I do. It's fucking annoying.

[@insanetester1015]

Why so many people make this type of comments? You're shown ads that are related to what you're seeing. It's not a miracle.

[@totheknee]

26:25 - "It's just not believable that I'm not right!" 🤣 Dead on the nose!

[@Origami_Uber]

One of the best shows ever!

[@ashtsmith1983]

I have a feeling the debate with Kanye would be like GMan with more interrupting.

[@thevampireyahweh5253]

Or bust into a freestyle rap where he rhymes "kanye" with "kanye" a hundred times.

[@DaleFromSyracuse]

Kanye can barely spell his own name. He's a joke. Come at us Kayne

[@franktherealist481]

I would love to see Kanye lose his mind with logic. He's a nut job, sure but maybe debating Matt or any one who's epistemology is right will bring him down to earth.

[@DaleFromSyracuse]

Kayne west walked into a street sign. He's definitely a joke

[@DaleFromSyracuse]

@@tari8134 lol not once I'm perfect :)

[@Hopeless_and_Forlorn]

Equivalent to debating George W. Bush. Except you might not have to set an egg timer while waiting for a reply.

[@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl]

Who is Kayne, a preacher?

[@hzoonka4203]

Matt,YOU ARE THE BEST,shut down the silly arguments!

[@allekatrase3751]

Jeez, lots of nutters between last week and this week.

[@nacasius]

As religion dies, only the most extreme and unreasonable will remain.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

@@nacasius The Internet. Where ALL religions and god thingies go to DIE.

[@scarmsaniiaggrey1646]

Kanye will not even understand the questions leave alone staying on topic! 😅

[@jeffreyp1855]

Kanye seems to be a complete knuckle head. He would be a lamb led to the slaughter, if his Godzilla sized ego even allowed him to consent to a debate with Dillahunty.

[@josed.vargas3961]

HOW SWAY

[@TwoEcksKay]

The call with Eddie was rough. He's clearly going through some shit and it was clearly very difficult for Matt and Don to deal with as they've obviously got to move on if he's rambling and not making sense, but you could tell they really were empathetic towards him and wanted to get to the bottom of the issue. I hope Eddie is doing okay and has found some help or a way to deal with his family issues.

[@theradiantchild]

He sounded mentally ill and should seek help

[@Twistedstar0320]

He was drunk.

[@Trevoire520]

Yeah he sounded like he'd been drinking. Clearly going through some stuff.

[@ProudCommie]

For anyone that thinks religion and god belief isn’t harmful.....listen to Eddies call.

[@debrarufini6906]

I really feel for Eddie. X

[@tototato2190]

Caller: Hello Matt: alright👇⭕

[@vinsanity982]

Kanye vs Matt in a debate? Don't make me laugh lol

[@ED-le1pr]

"YOU AINT GOT THE ANSWERS MAN!"

[@CyckOne]

And I'm saying PLEASE make me laugh and let this happen!

[@astrophotos8368]

I need to see this. Matt would take his clout.

[@DoubleUDude]

I don't know what I think about it. On the one hand no intelligent person should ever give West any recognition, on the other hand it would be funny.

[@lemmyhead8578]

Been missing Tracy.

[@callscreenerpaul6636]

She's on God Awful Movies this week.

[@TheNessMess]

@@callscreenerpaul6636 Last upload was a year ago?

[@callscreenerpaul6636]

@@TheNessMess I'm sorry but I don't understand your question

[@TheNessMess]

@@callscreenerpaul6636 my apologies. You mentioned Tracie was on God Awful Movies this week. I went to the channel, and it says its last upload was a year ago. I opened it, and Tracie's name was not in description.

[@callscreenerpaul6636]

@@TheNessMess I'm not sure what service you went to, I download new episodes straight from their Patreon cause I donate to the show. Check iTunes or some other such service on Tuesday, the new episode should be up, they watched a movie called "The Story of Mankind"

[@Chattosaurus]

Damn... I lost my shit when Matt said the can of coke was his Dad!! Matt may have been short with people today, but he's got jokes!

[@voiceoftruth2646]

No, he's got BULLSHIT!!!

[@grandchessboard2435]

@I'm Telling Who are you testing, sir?

[@paulwest5381]

Sorry about the UK caller, how embarrassing, we're not all like that Paul uk , an atheist

[@thomasowens5824]

He had a funny accent ... may not be home grown.

[@hirtisrandolph4843]

The Good Place... the worst part of Quarantine is that my favorite shows are on hold.

[@IamKnucks]

When someone who calls in has my name, and is completely incoherent, I can't help but feel one of my tribes has failed. Haha

[@willievanstraaten1960]

I was raised a christian, even did bible reading and praying to open hall assembly at the school I taught. Focused on the good news and text from the new testament and got many compliments. When I really started studying the bible and christian history I gradually changed my believe. At first I said I am Agnostic and as I got more and better informed, saying that I am atheist.

[@somepublic]

"I stopped being an atheist because of the evidence" What evidence? "There isn't any"

[@Mrmoe198]

John Public Yea! There isn’t any evidence that god doesn’t exist! Checkmate Atheists! :p

[@the-outsider8458]

@@Mrmoe198 except atheists generally don't make the claim that there's evidence for doesn't exist or it's that there's no good evidence that a god does exist. Epic fail.

[@queezle4277]

I think Eddie was going through some things. His family abandoned him. I hope he is ok.

[@ryrez4478]

Loved when Don said "does god suffer heat death?" Lol too bad Patrick from FL didn't get to answer that one.

[@Kaxlon]

To Eddie in NY; Seek out your local Atheist, secular, or humanist group. You will find others that are feeling the way you do. And you get to talk to people that left religion many years ago. Trust me. Reach out to your local group or see if the crew on this show has contacts for you. I have seen people leaving religion and it's not easy. Myself I have been a Atheist all my life. Never ever considered any religion a sound choice. But I am very fascinated and interested in religion. I have worked on the factory floor with muslims who left islam in Iraq coming here to Sweden as political refugees. Please Eddie take care of yourself.

[@astrophotos8368]

Rick, the "star in a jar" experiment is a process of cavitation. It is a phenomenon seen in some sea creatures that strike up a force strong enough to generate short-lived light as a result of the sound waves. That is called sonoluminescence. It is a phenomenon currently being researched. It gets you nowhere near your god. You can interpret all you want, but using a process of cavitation that we don't know much about (hmm... sound like the god of the gaps?) will get you nowhere. Also, the argument is a false equivalency when claiming the experiment to be evidence that your god created the universe. The medium used to perform such experiments is not a vacuum. If it were, there would be no sound because sound can't travel in vacuums such as space. So, to equivalate the universe (a vacuum) to the experiments of sonoluminescence performed with liquids is by definition a false equivalency.

[@yashuafly6342]

Water, bubbles, sound waves, and light. All the sole components of this process of creating a self sustaining heat source via an explosion. And all these components are in the first lines of the bible. Deflect all you want, fact is this is far closer to the bibles theory, than it is the atheistic theory. If we can prove the universe originated this way, you atheists are in deep water🤣 no pun... furthermore the stars all make their own high pitch frequencies with explains how the shrapnel is gaining momentum. Further more different frequencies create different colours. Which is exactly what we see when planets are at different distances. Seems to me the fact that you atheist dismiss this amazing explanation of the universe origins, merely because it fits with the bible , shows truly how much of religious bigots atheism truly is. Keep your beliefs to yourselves. We Christians are using science to discover our origins, it just so happens to align with the bible. Suxs to be an atheists in the 21st century.

[@giovannibazzini7117]

Yashua Fly you are selling a pile of bullshit

[@Vivi2372]

@@yashuafly6342 literally nothing you just claimed is scientifically accurate. And there's no such thing as a self sustaining heat source. Even the stars eventually die.

[@astrophotos8368]

Yashua Fly it’s not self sustaining

[@yashuafly6342]

An Amateur's Astrophotography it’s self sustaining through sound waves. Different frequencies have different degrees. Ironic we can actual prove that the stars all make their own frequencies. So yes if the stars frequencies are sustaining each other, than yes this testable theory, is a self sustaining universe model. Far more logical than nothing made everything, and ironic the bible unveiled this theory thousands of years ago, we were just unable to comprehend it without modern technologies.

[@missautumn764]

"Woo-woo-eyy" is my new favourite word. 😂

[@scarmsaniiaggrey1646]

Canadian Catholic I know you are reading this, present your evidence here...

[@meirmarandmoeshow5514]

Matt you are the man I have to start my day with you

[@lukusblack6442]

Christ... where do you find these callers? Is your number fake, and you just have a direct line to some asylum somewhere? I do not have Matt's patience. If they were all calls like the ones today, I bet I'd get through 50 in that hour and a half. That drunk guy, for example... I'd be nice about it, he seemed good hearted enough... but I'd have been off that call in about a minute. As for those 'god is the universe' callers; "If you call the universe 'god', then great. Your god exists, and you didn't even have to prove it. Nice to meet you. Next."

[@aegisgfx]

this is the best the world of theism has to offer folks.

[@Fraterchaoraterchaos]

lol, so I paused the video playback to look up "star in a bottle (or Star in a Jar as it is actually listed)) and it's all. could be, would be... essentially, sound waves can cause a bubble in a sealed flask of liquid, that the bubble then expands and then collapses and emits a bright light (NOT self-sustaining AT AL, in direct contradiction of the caller's claim) they claim in the video the light is at 10,00 degrees (they don't specify F or C, imagine that) After that point, it's all the guy claiming that this "could be" similar to fusion, that "maybe" we could use this to cause fusion, and that "maybe" this is how the sun and other stars work (although he provides no details about what the liquid in outer space might be or where the sound waves are coming from) In other words, interesting scientific phenomenon, transformed to mystic woo woo, by people with too much imagination and WAT TOO MUCH free time on their hands.

[@Belginator]

One of my favourite youtubes

[@geraldodonnell2595]

Catholic & Rick in Canada, what are you guys smoking?

[@philipbaker4970]

Weed is legal here soooo

[@moimeself1088]

you guys keep me sane, even on days when i disagree with you. I wish I had the spare cash to donate. But i play your videos in my house every Monday, no matter who's here. some people appreciate it more than others. :)

[@harrypothead42024]

My favorite pairing!

[@astrophotos8368]

A Light in the Dark yes, really. It’s his opinion, why argue it?

[@harrypothead42024]

@A Light in the Dark yes for sure. When Matt get shoved over the edge and Don begins he laughs, so do I.

[@Lambert1386]

An inner-circle atheist, eh? Then you should know the secret handshake.

[@paulbolton4929]

Please stop taking calls for Canada....we are embarrassed enough,,,,,

[@Vivi2372]

I haven't even gotten to the calls yet but the descriptions are painful enough.

[@PrimRoseLane]

Please do not apologize for Canada, we released an orange menace on the world. This is far beyond Justin Beiber. We are sorry.

[@yashuafly6342]

God is in your national anthem. I guess you “ Canadians” didn’t know the national anthem... that is embarrassing..

[@Vivi2372]

@@yashuafly6342 your comment has nothing to do with anything being discussed here. And that some theists once upon a time put god in our anthem and people are too mired in tradition to change it isn't relevant to anything.

[@yashuafly6342]

Vivi2372 my comment has nothing to do with Canadians being embarrassed of theist calling from Canada? Typical atheists logic. Case and point.Canadians should be far more embarrassed of your logic than the god founded in the countries freedom laws. 👍🏿

[@lazur1]

The man who said he isn't a good communicator was the best communicator of all the callers.

[@Never-mind1960]

Rick Canada - A god putting vague hints in an ancient book to show his existence? Really, that's the best you got?

[@miboogaroo]

Eddie sounded very broken... I hope he is ok.

[@TheJluv70]

Haven’t seen the show in a while,Matt has lost weight, lookin’ good

[@notwhatiwasraised2b]

@@zakaruahbones3142 who is talking about his health?

[@larjkok1184]

Zac Schmierer That’s irrelevant. No one was discussing his health.

[@darksoul479]

I actually think that Matt is a little too thin now.

[@tylercampbell6365]

Probably not voluntarily considering how he curses God?

[@jackthompson852]

Man, a lot of wannabe Matt’s in here trying to whip up an argument out of thin air. Fuk

[@rev.joelanderson5342]

I just wish I could hug people like Eddie. I'm scared that he's not alright.

[@jimm.1013]

I more often go to religious videos and in the comment section, challenge the viewpoints and philosophies I hear. I try to do it as respectably as possible. The one thing I wish is that when the arguments for a religion and/or the existence of a god gets just too dumb, I could push a button and hang-up. In a sense I actually can hang-up. Unfortunately the other person still has an audience.

[@LucianCorrvinus]

Is that sarcasm, I'm bad at recognizing it...

[@richardvoyer5697]

Hard to believe , after all those years of logic and rationality and STILL...there's believers everywhere ; it's unbelievable really .

[@richardvoyer5697]

@John Wood ; ok , but why make him to be unbelievable then ?

[@richardvoyer5697]

@Sean Pittaway ; that's exactly what makes it unbelievable .

[@jmags2586]

Ancient Skies, a series on PBS Passport does a great job of illustrating how our worldview evolved over the millennia. It's worth a watch.

[@rossgalbraith3878]

Joel from Alabama already tried his nonsensical argument with Matt and Tracie last year. It didn't work out for him back then, either.

[@PatBrownfield-TheRainmaker]

Matt is in rare form right off the bat 🤣

[@faircompetition1203]

spiders are born knowing how to spin a web - they must be reincarnated .

[@originoflogos]

I would sell my “soul”, if you will, to see a Kanye West/Matt Dillahunty debate!!!

i tried to sell my soul online years ago for a thousand usd. everyone commented Im a witch and so and so you dont want to sell your soul for so cheap trust me. I was like yes i do i will take whatever you can give me witches. long story short witches are really broke or know they really cant do anything with a fake soul because i never sold it. :(

[@markburch6253]

Lol...that would be epic

[@darksoul479]

Kanye who?

[@scarmsaniiaggrey1646]

Kanye will not even understand the questions leave alone staying on topic! 😅

[@Tenno-Frame]

Would rather see Matt utterly destroy Jessie Lee Peterson. How much would I pay you ask? How much is my"soul" worth? Lol. All jokes aside, I would enjoy seeing that.

[@janelarmore1961]

Skip to 23:42 for the first call

[@sonsclan4308]

I used to tell missionaries that life itself is God, but since I've seen this show, I've given up on that label. Life is just life now.

[@astrophotos8368]

Good job. Don’t fall for the pantheist trap. No need to label life, or the universe as we know it, god. It’s a waste of time and goes nowhere.

[@LucianCorrvinus]

@@astrophotos8368 depend on what you think God is.... ,

[@dfrasu]

Caller #1: needs mental evaluation stat. Caller #2: lives with mom Caller #3: is deaf and insane Caller #4: the universe = what the fuck? Caller #5: there are no gods and i can’t prove it, chemicals are involved for sure

[@harrypothead42024]

I wonder if Charles and Texas used to be Mark, at the Austin Stone Church

[@YY4Me133]

It sure did sound like him.

[@juniorkemmish4183]

probably was

[@horrourstories]

I really need to do a correction video on Gallileo and witches. It wasn't (just) the church like so many say it was. Witch trials were mostly secular, and Galileo was put under house arrest for taking the piss out of the Pope. Let's do better with that argument.

[@LucianCorrvinus]

Go ahead I'd like to see that As for the Witch Trials being mostly secular, one should remember the Mallius Malificaram and who wrote it. Being a Witch myself I'm fairly confident in my knowledge of the Burning Times...

[@scott6504]

Even if you're not an Athiest or perhaps Agnostic, this is a great way to toss around philosophy.

[@erikjohnson3859]

Everyone on the planet is either an Atheist or a Theist. Agnostic is not a counter to either.

[@FreethinkingSecularist]

Michael Stipe from REM once upon being asked about the Beatles quipped, "the Beatles? Isn't that elevator music?"

[@callscreenerpaul6636]

Hey there AxP fans, if you're ever in the Austin area and want to see the magic behind the curtain, come on down to the Freethought Library on Koenig Lane. See the amazing "space-age" technology used to produce your favorite atheist-themed programming week after week, marvel at the sheer expanse of the studio space, get your picture taken behind the desk, watch the shows being recorded live and then stay for dinner with the cast, crew and fans. All for the low, low price of......NOTHING! Its all free! Its a great chance to meet like-minded atheist-type people and party like rock stars' distant relatives. Doors open at 11am on Sundays; Talk Heathen starts at 1pm and AxP at 4:30. Parking can be kinda tough so either get there early or be patient. Hope to see you there!!

[@callscreenerpaul6636]

@I'm Telling Well, because doing that would end up with the police being called if they didn't immediately leave, cause then it would be trespassing on private property. And wouldn't that be a silly and pointless way to get a criminal record?

[@callscreenerpaul6636]

@I'm Telling Glad I could help, enjoy your trolling.

[@callscreenerpaul6636]

@I'm Telling Okay, but also remember, we're in Texas. You walk in someplace uninvited specifically to start trouble you'll be lucky if you ONLY get your ass kicked. So all in all, it wouldn't be a good idea.

[@Vivi2372]

@I'm Telling "Trolling? No sir. I honestly want to understand human psychology. I really do." If that were true you'd go to a credible university and study it.

[@michaelrch]

1:02:00 Yeroon's call was fascinating

[@righthandofdoom77]

Looks like the onslaught of nutters waited.

[@TRutledge]

Haven't watched enough yet, but it seems the commenters agree with your conclusion.

[@thunderstruck73190]

I wish you guys would have given Eddie more time, because it was clear he needed to talk to you. Sounded like he may have had a few drinks to numb some of the pain, but he was honest and thoughtful. I'd like to see him call back with more time in the show. It's obvious he felt alot over his lifetime....more feelings than most people could even imagine. I hope he gets peace of mind.

[@frmrchristian303]

Our notions of hell also have come from Milton's "Paradise Lost".

[@eddieking2976]

The last caller. The Snake leg conspiracy🤪🤣🤣🤣

[@laserbuddha]

Athiest Experience you need better call screening. There are at the moment so many similar calls like that Eddie call, people who are going through some personal crisis and are feeling desperate and alone, they need a friend or a therapist (they have no intention of talking about atheistic topics). Letting calls like that through is just irresponsible, these people are in a sensitive and vulnerable place and I doubt that they really want to vent things like that to the public when they are in that state. The hosts also need to shut down those immediately and redirect them to some suitable organizations (unless they feel they have a suitable background such as licensed therapists etc.). By letting calls like that through, they are just inviting problems, both for the show and the caller.

[@astrophotos8368]

laserbuddha I wouldn’t see it as that big of a deal. The hosts have countlessly pointed obviously distressed callers to helpful organizations. If they are willing to call, let them through. This can be quite therapeutic for some. Others may benefit by having their situation garner attention, allowing others to take something from the call too.

[@callscreenerpaul6636]

I agree In the time that I've been the call screener for AxP there have only been a handful of times that I've been honestly ashamed to have let a call through, and this is one of those times. When he called in my initial reaction was to pass. He seemed despondent, clearly in pain but not nearly as inebriated as he seemed in the call (but who knows what he was up to in the half hour between when I screened him and the hosts hit the button). I told him no, but he began begging me, repeatedly to let him on. I shouldn't have. I knew I shouldn't have, but I caved. I let my sympathy for someone in pain override the knowledge that we are not qualified to help with pain like that, and certainly not in a single short phone conversation. I'll only say to you exactly what I said to the guys in the control room when it became so obvious what a fucking train wreck his call was going to be, "I'm so sorry. I should never have let him through." I'll try to do better.

[@laserbuddha]

@@callscreenerpaul6636 Thanks for replying! I'm glad to hear that you guys take these things seriously and I hope I didn't come off too harsh in my initial comment.

[@callscreenerpaul6636]

@@laserbuddha No, that's fine. Believe me, I'm my harshest critic, so I was beating myself up much worse than anything you could have said. And yeah, we all take our jobs on the show VERY seriously. It was a learning experience. I've only been doing this job for a few months and sometimes I honestly have to take a harder stand with the callers. You never really know how a call is going to go, in the end its always a crap shoot if how they come across during screening is what is actually going to happen during the show. In just this episode, we all knew that "Tim Tebow" guy was an idiot but he was fun and it let Matt make a good point about folks assigning undue importance to random events. The second guy lied to get on the show, he said he wanted to discuss evidence for God and then launched into his "Jesuits run the world" conspiracy theory, hence why he was hung up on so quickly. We were all excited about "Canadian Catholic" cause he said he was an ex-atheist who found faith and were all really disappointed that he turned into such a dud. Honestly it was a rather weak show from a call perspective (after a few very good weeks), but Matt and Don did their usual excellent job.

[@mischarowe]

Matt vs Kanye Kanye is CRUSHED. It's not really a fair "fight".

[@CMDRunematti]

the only thing religion is actually good for: the series called supernatural is based on those tales and it is awesome.

[@matthewleisure6710]

Agreed

[@RegebroRepairs]

Yeroon story is why you never send out guys to proselytize by themselves. You always send two. So they can prevent each other from doubting or listening to arguments.

[@billmorash3322]

I think Eddie should have spent more time talking to Don.

[@lukeanatr]

This one was a wild ride

[@jackthompson852]

Every time Don is on, the calls don’t start till 30 min into the show...

[@kayb9979]

I honestly think that Don could be better employed than telling the majority of us what we already know and what the religious would studiously ignore. Sorry Don, if you read this, but stating the bleeding obvious is a waste of time.

[@astrophotos8368]

Kay B and that says a lot.

[@MaskOfCinder]

I always skip his beginning segments. I'm here for callers, not pseudo-atheistic sermons.

[@vegass04]

Whooooaaa. Matt is lining them up today like there's no tomorrow.. Go Matt....