Atheist Storms out of Q&A for THIS Reason!?

The speaker in this video Frank Turek. This moment happened during one of his lectures, during the Q&A section. I think this conversation is very important. If you are interested in seeing the original video, here it is: • Atheist storms out aft...
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[@justapilgrimgoinhome]

It's easy to smell a rotten egg but it's hard to lay a better one

[@user-nh3qo4df9y]

The theist view - it's better to have an answer to a question, even if it is a lie, than no answer at all.

[@mike16apha16]

@@user-nh3qo4df9y the atheist view - better to live in ignorance and hope it doesn't come back to bite me later down the line

[@andrewdickson1556]

but in this example, theism is the rotten egg. And atheists aren't trying to lay a batter one, they just know the other one is rotten.

[@Jewonastick]

@@mike16apha16 how is a genuine disbelief ignorance?

[@scottbroadfoot3530]

@@mike16apha16 do you really think atheists fear hell?. I was born and have lived without any religions. Your gods scare me as much as voldermort or Freddie kruger. I just find it amusing triggering theists, flat earthers and other conspiracy nuts.

[@michaelreynolds3592]

A great lyricist once wrote... "and if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."

[@Jewonastick]

And what does that have to do with this video?

[@trumpbellend6717]

BELIEF is NOT *"CHOICE"* or a mere act of volition. Sure someone can pretend to believe anything but the things one actually believe are not something you choose they are an involuntary response to one's level of information and understanding of their environment. You are either convinced or you are unconvinced and its EVIDENCE that convinces. I could not just make myself believe in pixies no matter how much I closed my eyes and stamped my feet. Anymore than you could right now "choose" to be convinced that God is not real or that the laws of gravity don't apply to you if you step off that cliff. Tell me could you genuinely "choose" to believe the internet does not exist and we are not having this discourse now ?? I'm talking about being CONVINCED of it bud not just pretending!! Give me an honest answer , could you right now "Choose" to believe in Thor or Zeus ??? 🤔 for exactly the same reason I can't choose to believe in Yahweh. Now if I recieved some irrefutable knowledge or evidence then I would have no "choice" but to believe, I would have to deny my own reasoning and senses. That what changes beliefs, not "choice" If you came home and found your spouse in bed with the neighbour, could you just "CHOOSE" to believe in her fidelity and go back downstairs to make her a nice cup of tea ?? 🤣😅🤣

[@HANKHILLFORTXGOVERNOR]

​​@@trumpbellend6717 in christianity youre chosen to believe before birth. Your atheism only leaves your god hole to be filled up with narcissism. Most modern atheists are social constructs created by pop culture to help the great reset agenda. Others like you are being primed to attack christians specifically.. im fairly certain hari krishnas get to avoid your criticism and attacks. They dont make you angry enough to respond online. Why is that? They are much more pushy than christians. Every sentence is about hari krishna.

[@trumpbellend6717]

@@HANKHILLFORTXGOVERNOR _"chosen to believe before birth"_ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Go back to your colouring book and leave these discussions to the adults dear 😉

[@Daniel_Antonio_Arellano782]

That's a good one. I like that.

[@franklynpatterson3265]

Classic tactic. "I demand you defend your position that I have already decided is wrong, no matter what you say, but I have zero responsibility to defend mine".

[@Shane46587]

He’s chosen not to believe.

[@bbcringegaming]

😂

[@Gabriel.1985.]

If a skeptic is truly a skeptic they would be skeptical of their own beliefs or lack therof.

[@ianmedford4855]

One glance at the thumbnail, and you know INSTANTLY which man is the atheist, and which man is the believer.

[@justin10292000]

Atheism in a nutshell.

[@jorpaulferns1070]

The feeling of pride is corrupting his soul.

[@DRayL_]

Who has "feelings of pride"?

[@Fil_the_spil]

​@@DRayL_The Atheist

[@DRayL_]

@@Fil_the_spil Do you think Frank Turek has any pride in the way he comports himself?

[@derekandfarley]

I love that he doesn’t get angry with anyone. He is very rational and calm. If you want to debate then come with an actual understanding of what you are discussing.

[@saintmalaclypse3217]

Cause Frank's a slick salesman and knows no money flows to an obnoxious blowhard, but if he keeps his cool and plays the well-meaning softie, he'll get more of them dolla-dolla-bills from the already-swayed-believers who don't care about truth or honesty, just reinforcement of their unsubstantiated beliefs.

[@derekardito2032]

Because the shows are planned , the questioners plants, instead of just blindly gobbling up.this bullshit because it promotes what you have been indoctrinated to.accept as true, how about searching " Debunking Turek" to see what and absolute grifter he is that makes a lucrative living off the backs of the gullible .

[@FindingGod365]

He has a truly amazing capacity for patience with people. Impressive. I dont know how he does it.

[@derekardito2032]

@@FindingGod365 it's a simple salesman technique, you dummy, together with spiele and knowing ones customers gullibility.

[@coolmacatrain9434]

Ha ha! Christianity is a fairytale .. how can anyone in 2024 believe such drivel

[@derekharp2805]

It's your job to defend your position but I don't have to defend mine? That was his argument.

[@majorsalt649]

His first point was that atheism is just a rejection of evidence claiming god exists. It is not an ontological foundation like theism., which has claims to creation. If you are atheist, you can substantiate your belief in the current science and theories of everything that do not pertain to a god theory. God theories are very far in the metaphysical, and can vary infinitely. Which is why we reject them. This Q+A does no justice to any side because they both don’t understand each others disposition or presupposition

[@cyberhighdiver]

To be fair though, and Im not a debater by any means, it would maybe depend on who has burden of proof. I guess such a statement could sometimes be true of - you need to defend but i dont have to

[@FrostFawks]

Can I ask - what is Atheism defending?

[@nikao7751]

​@@FrostFawksa view.

[@nikao7751]

​@@majorsalt649do you know that provably, the bible is an integrated message system outside our space time domain knowing the end from the beginning; His story in advance, Jesus Christ and the truth thereof, learn it and trust in the one who gave it to us, immortal grace, so little time 🙏

[@brittonprice637]

Exactly that. Christianity is constantly put in the interrogation chair but when you turn the tables they always run away. They always expect you to answer the hard questions but have no answers to give for themselves.

[@FrostFawks]

"I don't know" is a perfectly honest and acceptable answer. Everyone is on their own journey to truth. You offer Christianity and claim to have all (most of) the answers. Don't be angry when the skeptic pokes holes.

[@poereto3662]

@@FrostFawkshe didn’t poke holes. And besides…. The person that seemed “angry” was ol boy that walked out.

[@andrewdickson1556]

nonsense. atheists do not always run away. one guy in one video decided he'd had enough and walked out. There are entire atheist movements, organisations, societies, dedicated to standing up against religious indoctrination. Atheists do not expect christians to answer hard question, they just dont believe the answers that a christian is giving. "I don't know" is more honest than "I have faith"

[@bobbyhempel1513]

​@@FrostFawks7:34 nobody poke holes in it though. It's the atheist that's getting mad when we poke holes in their faith. And yes even atheists have faith.

[@FrostFawks]

@@bobbyhempel1513 I'm curious what you mean by "atheists have faith"?

[@GodsArmy00]

These conversations are needed. Respect.🙏🏾

[@johnbreitmeier3268]

No these conversations are pointless. There is no way to have a useful conversation with someone who either makes up their own definitions of words or with which you do not share a common frame of reference. It is like one side playing chess and the other water polo. There may be a lot of noise but zero light. Atheists are silly, sad, and irrelevant. They make up 2% of the population. None of them are sane. The Bible calls them fools.

[@jimh3500]

Excellent commentary and respectfully presented. I appreciate your discourse.

[@Mr.ChadBased]

My mother taught me when I was very young that the easiest thing in the world to do is be a critic

[@daviduxparker1632]

Better too accept anything without any moral discretion

[@capttuttle7422]

It's easy to criticize someone who is wrong and won't set in stone what your position is.

[@dooflydetailguuy4349]

​@@daviduxparker1632your sarcasm smells

[@hollyperrin7353]

Easy to criticize; hard to create. Yo mamma was right!

[@tygon13]

It's definitely easier to criticize an argument, than it is to create a good one. The problem of course, is that it apparently is really easy to follow errors in thinking, and even easier to never address the problems with your thinking. The benefit of a skeptic is that they point out the flaws in your thinking, which allows you to improve that thought. But if you're unwilling to even address those errors... Yep, it's even easier to literally be oblivious to life, than it is to be a critic.

[@jameschatterton3541]

When ever anyone runs away from an intelligent conversation with content and substance they know that they are wrong and have no ground for argument

[@miguelortiz-fn7xp]

Did you follow the conversation? I mean really, the guy was upset about his perception that the theist was lying. Why did he have to stay, because you demand it? Grow up.

[@k4r1zm4]

@@miguelortiz-fn7xp he should have stayed because educated and respectful adults can listen to the opposing argument without having to storm out because you are “offended” by what the opposition says.

[@wagstaffphilip]

@@k4r1zm4 He did not storm out but realised Frank was wasting his time by dishonestly diverting the argument.

[@nightshade99]

@@wagstaffphilip Your explanation does not denounce that he uncivilly stormed away from the mic when he did not receive his predetermined validation. I have a question for you. Why are you an atheist? You seem pretty confident in your outlook that Christianity is false. Why is that?

[@melschevelle]

This is a very great point for arguing any point but especially your belief. I needed to hear this, good one

[@ariararia]

My favorite channel. This changed my mind

[@flix343]

Changed your mind about what? Out of interest

[@ryleighloughty3307]

'If you stand for nothing, you fall for anything.'

[@grateful3300]

If you know something is not real you don’t have to stand up for it because others say so

[@greymangaming1877]

​@@grateful3300 Yet you cannot expect others to take you seriously if you claim you know better and don't prove it.

[@grateful3300]

@@greymangaming1877 I agree wholeheartedly with you!! I love proof

[@mrrickstur]

Agnostics/atheists do stand for something though

[@ryleighloughty3307]

@@mrrickstur Yes, but what they stand for is relative.

[@superepicness1554]

'If you choose not to choose, you have still chosen'

[@DRayL_]

If there is no valid option,...there _is_ no "choice",...only honesty.

[@itsgeodoodz]

​@@DRayL_so you choose not to choose? 🍿

[@DRayL_]

@@itsgeodoodz You're not understanding.

[@itsgeodoodz]

@@DRayL_ your not explaining well 🤷‍♂️🏂

[@DRayL_]

@@itsgeodoodz If you state, 'choose not to choose', that indicates that a legitimate choice is valid. Choosing whether you like Mexican food better than Chinese food. Those are choices. But even then, if you don't have an opinion...that still isn't 'choosing'. So how about Mexican food vs 'food on Jupiter's moon, Europa'. If 'food on Europa' has no evidence of existing, you cannot use that as part of a legitimate choice.

[@KColes63]

He had a problem that he couldn't win! He thought he would throw around his "intellect" while making himself look foolish!

[@konagirl805]

Walking out on a debate means you lost the debate.

[@raycote7967]

The ultimate ignorance is the rejection of something you know nothing about, yet refuse to INVESTIGATE

[@VengefulPolititron]

CORRECT. They all demand evidence, until I roll up and drop it on them. Then they say it's just lies, and run away without reading and watching the scientific proof of God.

[@wagstaffphilip]

@@VengefulPolititron Go on then, drop it on me here and now and I promise not to run away, but no bible quotes, just put your claims and arguments, no read this and that. Let's duke it out eh?

[@fancy3774]

​@@wagstaffphiliphow about life itself. I know evolution and all but earth is 4 billion years old with all the necessity to create life and we still haven't observe life emerging from non life. the chance of a protein molecule being created out of nowhere is highly unlikely to ever happen let alone a living one with complex molecule like dna and all over the planet. enlight me. maybe I'm missing something

[@Cpnpd922]

A common atheistic tactic. I will look at your evidence as long as it fits my definition of what constitutes evidence and you present it using only the criteria I give and agree to. I have found the vast majority of online atheists are intellectually lazy, their go to is I refuse to believe therefore I win.

[@wagstaffphilip]

@@Cpnpd922 As @VengefulPolititron failed to pick up the gauntlet I look to you.As you appear not to accept the standard definition of evidence: "the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid." what's yours?

[@daverogg8701]

Whenever Frank tried to answer, the guy would “discount” him by interrupting, even after Frank patiently let him have his say. Someone truly looking for answers would not do that. Your videos are so well done. Thank you, brother!!!

[@andrewdickson1556]

he wasn't discounting, he was correcting - Frank was putting words in the atheists mouth, telling him that he does have a world view. The atheist was not allowing him to do that.

[@Dirshaun]

@@andrewdickson1556 which is silly since the only question you can really answer is I think therefore I am. After that, everything else is built on faith. At the end of the day, faith simply means you have confidence in a person, thing, or concept.

[@bobbyhempel1513]

​@@andrewdickson1556but he does have a world view everybody has a world view whether you realize that's what it is or not the worldview is the lens through which you view the world.

[@andrewdickson1556]

@@bobbyhempel1513 YES! Everyone does have a world view. Atheists all have world views but NONE of those world views are contingent on their atheism! Buddhists and Nihilists can both rightly be described as atheists but they don't share a world view!

[@AbhiDaBeatTheSecond]

​@@andrewdickson1556Worldview or philosophy is basically a way of thinking. Everyone has a way of thinking. An atheist has a way of thinking. And even you have a way of thinking.

[@jacobrogers9109]

You can’t help everybody out there because some people just don’t care. I feel sorry for them…

[@rebekahm6968]

I loved how he remained calm even after he was blamed.

[@jasonsamuels2578]

This dude didn’t come to ask a question, he just wanted to be a contrarian. When someone keeps cutting you off, you know they aren’t being genuine in their discourse (hence why he just stormed off). Way to go Dr. Turek 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@DRayL_]

I see theists cutting people off all the time in videos. I've seen Turek do it. I've seen Durbin do it. _They_ are contrarian to anything that isn't "god beliefs". Why do you appear to think that "only god people have the answers"?

[@supertrucker99]

Agree

[@mtbadidis]

Exactly

[@parismccoy20]

@@thatblokeshere explain.....?

[@-WillAlone-]

What is God?Honest question.

[@lindaeledan5198]

This is hysterical .He felt so angry and embarrassed, he just left.😂😂😂❤️🤗🙏🏽🙌🏾

[@edwinreyes7946]

It looked staged to me, but your assumption was quite impressive. How deluded are these believers?I find it quite sad. As an Atheist for over 36 years I have yet to hear any shred of evidence for any religious claims let alone a reasonable definition of what god even is?

[@edwardmajewski434]

@@edwinreyes7946What is your thoughts on the Kalam Argument?

[@chrisrendon461]

@@edwardmajewski434ahhh this is a very natural thing we as humans do … like a watch a watch doesn’t spontaneous come into existence … but then where do you stop now god has a creator and its an infinite loop … but if you say god always existed say the same thing with the universe… we dont know if the universe even really had a beginning yes the big bang but who knows how it started or even if it is one of billions of big bangs we just dont know … so just say we have no clue instead of yea god did it well which one first off of course your god and if you go back to ancient rome it would be zeus or Apollo that

[@HANKHILLFORTXGOVERNOR]

​@@edwinreyes7946 dont be a remedial knight templar fighting a holy war against religion while having no god. Be an atheist and move along sir.

[@CSS916]

@@edwinreyes7946 Just because we've experienced God, doesn't mean we're delusional. It just means you haven't experienced Him. Usually that happens w/humility and seeking out truth. You need both of those things.

[@Cissapp2008]

this is very simple and real (and falls down under the ""Principle": whether you accept or not): Your beliefs will always shape your perception of the reality around you. Period.

[@trumpbellend6717]

Lol no dear, facts and evidence are what shape my beliefs and thus perspective of reality. Knowledge of FACTS, also called "propositional knowledge", is defined as true belief that is distinct from opinion or guesswork by virtue of justification. A "FACT" is a point of data that is objectively verifiable ( demonstrable ) Absent "Facts" one has only the opinion or guesswork and no justification to claim such knowledge. Science has all the FACTS yet claims nothing as "absolute" truth. Christianity conversely claims absolute truth in everything yet has no FACTS 😜

[@ontheroadtoZ]

Love your channel brother keep it up 👍🏽 may the Lord keep you 🙌🏼

[@Callmenobody174]

The way that atheist argues his point reminds me of that Monty Python sketch where the guy pays for an argument and he ends up accusing the other guy of contradicting him and not actually arguing with him, so he walks out mad😅

[@HeadRoaster]

can only hope he went to 'getting hit on the head' lessons next, then...

[@isaiahoconnor8236]

One of my faves...

[@chrisrendon461]

He’s right …the burden of proof is on the person making the claim… thats like me saying my purple t shirt made the universe okay prove it … okay you cant im not going to believe you

[@HANKHILLFORTXGOVERNOR]

​@@chrisrendon461 whoosh!

[@TheMeefmaster]

@@chrisrendon461wow…can’t even grasps the basics, can you.

[@Mountaintops]

The wolf shirt, the shades, the ponytail…it’s as if the Reddit atheism community got released

[@muxion]

Release The KREDDIT!

[@kgpspyguy]

@@jonc3214 “Grossly?” More like hideously. Horrifically. Terrifyingly.

[@agentspliff]

such lovely people. I hope there is a hell so you can go to it

[@norelizrosa3469]

@@kgpspyguy What a refreshing comment.

[@kgpspyguy]

@@norelizrosa3469 Honesty is refreshing sometimes. EVERYBODY is thinking it. A person who’s DESTROYED their one and ONLY body to that degree is surely too foolish, and immature to be an authority on anything. He opened his mouth, and he did NOT disappoint. I’ve never met a truly obese person who wasn’t infantile, irrational, and utterly self serving.

[@Rigorous_Storm]

So the questioner is basically saying "I can't tell you what I believe, I just know what I don't believe."

[@saintmalaclypse3217]

Yes, exactly, and then Frank is trying to tell him what he DOES believe, as if he could read his mind, but he's just playing tired old word games that have been used and debunked through the ages. Frank's an idiot. A polite, civil idiot, but an idiot nonetheless.

[@jeremyadrian233]

That's the gist, it's an ontological claim about knowledge, we cannot reliably rely on our five senses, knowing they only provide a model of the world we exist it. Therefore maybe someone didn't put the proof on the map we are using and we missed it. That is all he is really saying. Myself, I believe that we cannot be 100% about god or which god is real, but once we write it down like in the bible it is easy to tear down god "as described" as a simple literary figure, and one that is an incoherent mess that reveals the human emotions and contradictions of several authors over several epochs, facing different dilemmas.

[@ZombotKing]

Love these videos. Thank you for sharing this with us all. Brother, where do you get your hats?! They are next level.

[@IvoKevin]

This, i want those hats

[@DavidMohMusic]

I cannot stop watching these debates. Thank you.

[@Dawn1968]

I like watching these debates

[@tracyavent-costanza346]

have you seen the ones where frank does not claim to have won them?

[@damianwhite504]

I can easily stop. Frank Turek has been saying the same thing for years

[@krissky6511]

​@@damianwhite504sounding like an addict saying you "can stop anytime you want" 😂 and yet you just claimed you've been listening to him for years? 🤨🤔🤦‍♂️😂 are you intentionally making a fool of yourself for our entertainment? because you're definitely seeming like a clown right here 😂🤣

[@krissky6511]

​@@damianwhite504 think about it, you're showing a piss-poor attitude against Frank saying you could easily not be here, and yet, lo and behold, here you are 🤔 if that's your attitude why not go find something that you don't have a piss-poor attitude towards? 🤷‍♂️

[@joseph7105]

Prayers for Scott. Hope he keeps asking questions.

[@mainamwangi5374]

😂🤣🤣 🤡 keep talking to yourself ! Am a naturalist , that's how I interpret things !

[@clarkcasada4807]

Good response

[@ordinarychap1085]

Hope he finds the answer. Window shoppers are left in the cold.

[@mainamwangi5374]

@@ordinarychap1085 cold window shoppers exist , where is your God ?

[@lysanderofsparta3708]

@@mainamwangi5374 Not where you are.

[@davidkubasiak9093]

Excellent commentary.

[@Hero-harry]

Thanks this open up a thought bubble of possibilities

[@barrettanderson2781]

You're very good at keeping your commentary short and yo the point. There's nothing harder than watching a review video where the person who's reviewing it talks more than the video they're reviewing.

[@franky8.5]

Oh man, that is so true!! Or backg round music that overwhelms the narrator 🤦🏻‍♂

[@socialgeezer1621]

Essentially isn't that a reaction video? You can't really put a time on someone's reaction because everyone is diffrent.

[@jeffrey4547]

the main problem was he had someone that knows nothing easy to win with that i can ask a few questions and he would walk away from me just like so many ministers have and christens i can tare the bible apart with facts. just like most christens never study the history of the bible or the stories in the bible to see how far they go back to and how they changed over time

[@ricksonora6656]

@@jeffrey4547The quality of your spelling and grammar cast serious doubts on your claims.

[@ricksonora6656]

Misinformation can be asserted with a mere word or phrase. Refuting and replacing misinformation can take paragraphs or pages. Also, sometimes a person has a message for which the clip serves as a mere prompt or illustration. So, I’d avoid blanket statements about length of commentary.

[@brian-pu3yy]

So nice to see people actually debating, not screaming and yelling.

[@ademjrad9994]

do u think that atheist is, attractive?

[@OldPirate1718]

Gotta love people who you can tell sit around just role playing life in their heads vs dealing with facts and reality

[@DRayL_]

Which 'facts and reality' would those be?

[@juriaan13]

Dungeons and dragons is awesome

[@notbuilt4onlyfans]

I really wish you didn't have a better moustache than me Sir. LOL. Great video. You've earned my sub.

[@BubblyJcyn]

The guy who stormed out is a tired and weary agnostic. Most of us have been there before (or have had somewhat similar thoughts and skepticism). He is kicking against the goads, defending the case for man's rebellion, and experiencing pain as a result. Hope everyone who watches this video can do a quick prayer for him! :) "“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”" (Matthew 11:28-30)

[@DRayL_]

"Rebellion" against what? Because if you say "god",....then the "god" has to be demonstrable first before you can even suggest "rebellion".

[@harrychristian4291]

@@DRayL_ But would you be capable of receiving a demonstration? I have recently heard Dawkins say that even if it was demonstrated beyond doubt, he would not believe, because his rebellion has thickened to that extent. In any encounter, a minimum of two parties have obligation to relate or not relate to each other, to determine whether or not there is meaningful contact. If the ignorant party is hell-bent on being out to lunch (in his rebellious mind), for the encounter, he can't holler that the other one didn't show up.

[@DRayL_]

@@harrychristian4291 First, the demonstration [and it be verifiable] must take place. But I really have no care what Dawkins says. However, if it was demonstrated beyond doubt that the Biblical "god" and "Jesus" were true and all the Christian doctrines as well, I would "believe" it to be factual. Better stated, I would recognize the evidence provided and accept that evidence. But that doesn't mean I would embrace the "god/Jesus", nor the Christian message. That isn't "out of rebellion", but because I cannot condone those ideologies/doctrines, nor any "god" who would institute them.

[@Kryssi709]

@@DRayL_ so why ask?

[@DRayL_]

@@Kryssi709 Why ask? Why shouldn't I?

[@danielcardone8622]

Good video. Enjoyed it. Enjoyed your comments on it.

[@dude56884]

I'm new here but love your channel! Dave, NJ

[@oreally8605]

"Its my way or the highway!" "If you refute my claims I'll run out!"

[@damianwhite504]

Sounds like Frank

[@jtomally9681]

All unbelievers in Jesus Christ and radicals are like that.

[@JS-sv4ol]

Had a friend like this in college - they’d play devils advocate to everything and propose no solutions or alternatives. They’re in politics now.

[@t-bonewtf]

God is not real.

[@findingjesusministries4783]

@@t-bonewtfI would ask you to provide evidence of your claim my friend. If you have no evidence to back it up then you’ve already lost. If God doesn’t exist, then answer this question: Why is Christianity the #1 most popular and most hated religion in the world?

[@3tmslmn]

No one is required to have an "alternative", or a "solution". Having neither does absolutely nothing to prove your assertion. It's a dishonest deflection, that reveals your lack of critical thinking, logic, and reason.

[@peekaboopeekaboo1165]

​@@findingjesusministries4783 Are you sure Christianity is the most hated religion right now ? 🤔

[@BurnFireBlaze]

@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 oh 100% no body mocks other religions as blatantly as Christianity.

[@sinnz146]

Mind Blowing!

[@able34bravo37]

2:10 "And your point is?" Dude, you've got some balls asking that question. The whole room was wanting to ask Mr. Wolf Shirt that from the moment he opened his mouth.

[@just_athought_7926]

This guy is not there to learn or actually have a discussion. He is just there to say what he wants to say regardless of if it sounds intelligent or not.

[@intentionally-blank]

Yes! *A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.* [Pro 18:2 ESV]

[@miguelortiz-fn7xp]

Sounds like any regular theist. Most theists sound unintelligent by the second sentence.

[@intentionally-blank]

@@miguelortiz-fn7xp We appreciate you expressing your opinion.

[@RS54321]

He's regurgitating the same talking points I've heard many other atheists/agnostics say.

[@user-kd4zl4ul7t]

I think he came for the free cake and pie.

[@AdoSean]

One of my favorite new channels. Thank you for the videos.

[@oliverbarber4714]

Heyo. I saw a video by you some time ago in which you prayed for the lady on the atheist side. I thought it was really wonderful and I think you should do it more often. It’s not like you have to or anything but it was really nice and I feel like it would help the viewers not to lash out at the opposing viewpoint holders in your videos. It also was like the main reason I went to watch another video. Anyway. Keep up the good work!!

[@willischwabe1324]

I second this

[@BronsonSlick]

To be fair, a detective can rule out suspect A for various reasons. It does not necessarily mean that detective is not a good one if unable to prove suspect B is guilty. It's possible that neither suspect is guilty. I agree with Turek's point of view, but he should use a better example than that one.

[@DaniielPineda]

I already saw most of Frank's videos but now I'm watching them again because I like your commentary

[@selenehenry3040]

You can tell that he went there with no intention of listening, or actual debate.

[@gnpgnp5281]

I appreciate your channel. Off-topic question - which brand and model of thermos do you have on the deak? I assume it is a Sranley; if so, which model?

[@saraohm9753]

Favorite channel

[@artificialsoundwaves]

Incredibly hilarious, to be honest. That guy walked straight out like a child. He didn't have any sort of defense at all. He just didn't like that he couldn't shoot down Frank's worldview in light of feeling that his own worldview was superior. You can't go into a debate without an open mind. "Privilege of the skeptic" is spot-on.

[@JimBobDewayne]

Typical leftist.

[@Kevin.from.Cali.]

privilege* 👌✌️

[@HeadRoaster]

Atheism is a bratty 8 year old rejecting their dad. No point arguing with 8 year olds, they haven't grown logic yet.

[@Hansca]

I feel that if your trying to discuss something with someone and they start spouting lies and you know that they know they are lying but they are going to say it anyway then that is the end of the conversation and you may as well walk away.

[@HeadRoaster]

@@Hansca nice.. now think instead of feeling and recognize that Frank wasn't lying about anything.

[@faith_myopinion6888]

I heard a saying once that states: "A logical person would rather believe in God because you have everything to gain if you're right and nothing to lose if you're wrong"

[@crank1985]

Pascal's bet

[@TheRageEnterprise]

This just seems kinda dumb. You’re going to follow a religion on fear that you MIGHT be wrong? how about all the other religions that use fear to gain followers; and say that you must believe in their gods or else? Are you going to believe all religions? Cause as you put it; “better be safe than sorry haha”

[@m.p.7075]

So you heard of Pascal's wager? It's been around for around 400 years.

[@terminat1]

Salvation is of grace, not works.

[@anfiach]

@@TheRageEnterprise the point isn't about fear. If you look at it strictly from a logical standpoint, the potential outcome of one choice over the other precludes one of those choices. Fear of God in Christianity isn't about fear but reverence. You have two paths. One leads to either a neutral or positive outcome, the other is either neutral or negative if you were to remove Theism from the statement.

[@domskie1708]

Sometimes if I feel like I'm questioning my faith in God and if God really exists, I just look at left and right and even the mirror and say "Then who created all these things?". I haven't seen a man create trees, animals, human and not just create them but create them so beautifuly and complexly.

[@venus_envy]

You haven't seen man create humans because it's women that do that!

[@roamingnomeRV]

That is what got me too. It isnt just the individual creations, but that they all work perfectly together. What are the odds of that randomly? Earth isnt too hot or too cold to sustain life - it is just right. We are just the right distance from the sun to allow for that. Not miles off that would effect the temperature, just right. There isn't too much oxygen or not enough, it is just right. Male and female of each species work together just right to continue life and procreate. We breathe in oxygen and out carbon dioxide to live, and trees breathe in carbon dioxide and out oxygen to live. A perfect balance. Our bodies are able to process the minerals, vitamins, protein, fat and carbohydrates to make fuel for our bodies and those things are found in the rest of creation. Things decay and refuel creation. It has to be by design. It takes more faith to believe it was all random than it does to believe there is a hand in it all.

[@kennethlandis6291]

That last metaphor about the detectives is actually a really bad one. If detective A says x did it and detective B says no he didn't, there isn't a burden of proof to provide a separate candidate. Arresting an innocent man for murder just because you did not have a better suspect for the crime is plenty of reason for detective B to still speak up. This of course is no commentary on their debate and whether or not the burden of proof exists there, just pointing out that the metaphor is a particularly bad one.

[@MrNikkiNoo]

Some of us feel a need to express how clever we are... obsessing that other people are wrong doesn't cut it. We just look foolish on both fronts.

[@wolfmanxxl8221]

On 1 front.

[@tygon13]

🤦 Skepticism is the only legitimate means we have to intellectually improve. The problem with people that have problems with skepticism, is that you're taking it emotionally and personally... As though it has something to do with your psychology or the other person psychology. But, there's nothing better for us than a healthy examination of reality. EG. Person 1: You look like crap, my friend. Are you okay? Person 2: You're just jealous. Look at how smart You think You Are. You have problems cuz you're foolish looking. There's no need to just tear people down like that. Person 1: I was just concerned because you look like you are having a rough time. You have bags under your eyes, you look like you're walking slower than usual, and you're humped over a little bit. These things made me very concerned for you.

[@byfaithwithmaribeljohnson]

Love the fact that you reacted and therefore brought this debate to an even broader audience because these are the kinds of topics we should ponder on to be able to defend our faith but moreso to understand better how to approach a different world view from ours.

[@Fauxchem]

The hubris of this guy. The amount of "I'm better than you" was just oozing off of him.

[@DRayL_]

Common for Turek.

[@nickjones5435]

Yep turek is an arrogant charlatan who makes money from exploiting the simple minded Christians.

[@Esico6]

Good explanation!

[@shane2973]

By the way I really like and appreciate what you’re doing here. This is the 2nd or 3rd video that I’ve seen from you and what you’re doing is great, imho. Thank you

[@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom]

You’re welcome!

[@CassieHawk]

This guy is like the epitome of Reddit commenters. 😂

[@jacobm2625]

If “well, akshually” was a person

[@coryburns9161]

That guy needs to skip some meals 😊

[@Genesis12nivana]

And when you offer the truth Reddit will flag you as a hate speech. 😊

[@kgpspyguy]

He’s literally too fat to take seriously. What wisdom could POSSIBLY dwell in a mind so steeped in addiction to “Chicken Tendies?”

[@ericmayhew5494]

*tips hat* Milady

[@ehcmier]

It's just a form of petty revenge against a symbol of pain, when someone is saying another is wrong without explaining how they are wrong, enlightening everyone in the process. If you care, then edify, or you're just lashing out with no end of pain to be had.

[@wagstaffphilip]

No self respecting logician and rationalist would ever agree to debate that gods do not exist. Frank claimed seasoned debaters such as Dawkins and Hitchens had. Absolute rubbish. A lie.

[@joshgomez5263]

Very well stated

[@T_Fizzle]

"The privilege of the skeptic" that's a great way to put it, thanks for that.

[@ChrisTheKing172]

The guy with the questions in this video is spot on...atheism is NOT a worldview

[@josephc.wright6841]

As Christian’s it our obligation and direct order from Christ Himself to tell others about the message of salvation through Him. It’s not on us to convince anyone. Now if they are curious and actually want to know and ask inquisitive questions, then yes of course. But if a person mocks you and calls you a liar when you are trying to witness to that person(s) then simply knock off the dust and keep moving. You did your job. Don’t cast your pearls to swine.

[@michelferreira9695]

Yes, but that's not how public debates works. Public debates involve a third party: the viewer. Even if you debater behaves like a chess pigeon, you still have to emit your arguments and retain composure, for the sake of who is watching.

[@josephc.wright6841]

I don’t understand your response.

[@jude915]

@@josephc.wright6841 I think michelferreira is saying that the questioner atheist should've held his composure. Unless I am missing something...

[@josephc.wright6841]

@@robertmitchell-tv5yf I don’t think you read my post. Like I said previously, it’s not my job to convince you or anyone else of anything. I am supposed to tell you the message of Christ and that He is the only way to heaven. If you want to argue and bicker back and forth go right ahead, but I will not do that because it is literally a waste of time to talk to someone who deep down doesn’t want to hear the truth, they’re just really angry and are looking for an excuse to keep living how they are living.

[@josephc.wright6841]

@@jude915 In that case yes. Frank was more than willing to stand and talk with the man and reason with him. Once the guy called him a liar and stormed off like a child the conversation is over. Period.

[@LoveYourNeighbour.]

I completely agree with your analysis of that brief exchange between that Atheist (or Agnostic :-) and Frank!

[@timthoryk2458]

That bull built like the chum patty from the chum bucket 😂😂

[@tellavisiontv]

Woo!! I love knowing the truth and being in the truth. Thank you Jesus for taking me out of the world and bringing me into your wonderful light.

[@wagstaffphilip]

Is that it, that's your contribution to the debate, just a slogan?

[@conniebrazzle3713]

When the person is losing the debate, all he could come up is, ' you are lying. " 😂😂😂

[@DRayL_]

He wasn't "losing the debate". He felt Turek was being dishonest. And with someone as arrogant as Turek...who "can never be wrong, nor corrected by anyone", there is little reason to remain talking to him.

[@colbywidener7092]

@DeavonReye He wasn't winning my friend. But it's not about winning. it's about what you chose to believe. And what you choose to beleive will determine your life - and ultimately after your life. To storm out and accuse someone of lying while in the midst of a civil conversation Is based of what he believes. Depending on what you beleive will determine how you treat conversations, situations and your own thinking. If truth is only a man made construct then the human race would have died a long time ago.

[@DRayL_]

@@colbywidener7092 He shouldn't have left. I wish he hadn't. As for "after my life", there isn't any verifiable evidence that anything will happen. I've come to this conclusion after many years of research, debate, and contemplation. It isn't something I could "believe".

[@colbywidener7092]

@@DRayL_ How do you say you have evidence. Have you died before?

[@findingjesusministries4783]

@@colbywidener7092Amen man. Good insight and wisdom!

[@caitlinjohnny3828]

Yessssss thank you for this. Right on to all these ignorant anthiests

[@DRayL_]

What are atheists 'ignorant' about?

[@workwithmiller]

This is where skepticism meets laziness…

[@nickjones5435]

Yep a skeptic meets a dishonest, arrogant christard charlatan.

[@bengreen171]

He didn't storm out. He left when it became clear Turek wasn't interested in honest conversation.

[@ramseycattn5941]

Turek wasn't interested in honest conversation? Not sure where you are getting that. Gonna have to be more specific. It actually appears as if that is exactly what he is doing.

[@bengreen171]

@@ramseycattn5941 no, he's working from a long prepared script, and employs diversions to steer the conversation in the direction he wants. He repeats ideas that he knows are incorrect - he has been corrected before, and yet he still does it. He has no excuse. Choose any moment you like, and I'll tell you how he is being dishonest.

[@ramseycattn5941]

@@bengreen171 "Repeats ideas he knows are incorrect-he has been corrected before." It sounds like he just doesn't agree that he has been 'corrected.' I could easily flip that around and say that the people Frank debates are dishonest, because Frank has corrected them and they still keep saying it. Believing something and saying it doesn't make you dishonest, on the contrary, it means exactly the opposite. Silly.

[@paulsmodels]

Scott was trying to use a sort of gaslighting technic on the speaker. The fact that he walked away like that shows me he was getting frustraed because he couldn't answer the speakers questions as asked, or didn't want to.

[@trumpbellend6717]

Lol I think he was frustrated that he could not get Frank to give him an honest answer dear 🤭🤫

[@fancy3774]

​@@trumpbellend6717more like he didn't get the answer he wanted to hear. most lgbt, trans and pro choice do flee when they get challenged.

[@trumpbellend6717]

@@fancy3774 Lol he never mentioned lgbt trans or pro choice dear. 🤭🤣 The subject matter at hand was who has "the burden of proof" and it's YOU that's attempting to "flee" it to misdirect the discourse. Perhaps it would be best if you just go back to your colouring book and leave these discussions to the adults dear 🤫

[@luxegulfcoast]

Great analogy at the end! both the Doc and Daily Dose Guy! Sorry don't know your name!

[@nkley1]

He “Gish-Galloped” right outta there. 😂

[@supertrucker99]

😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣 😂

[@lovefelix1566]

😂😂😂😂 Lol 😂 you can 🥫

[@VengefulPolititron]

that's all they have. throwing around terms that are often flawed. Total rejection of the evidence. No honesty. Just bitter crying childish midwits.

[@SayGen]

He did really well to explain the situation with his detective analogy. Well done.

[@robertdouglas8895]

"Judge not by appearance but judge by righteous judgment." Jesus Christ Atheists deny God exists because He is not perceptible. Some believers, Frank Turek included, look at the physical world and say God had to create it. According to Jesus, the physical world is not real. We know God through prayer, not the body. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

[@albertcabrerajr992]

@@robertdouglas8895 what??? "according to Jesus the physical world is not real"... The Lord Jesus NEVER SAID THAT. and you are misunderstanding "what is born of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of the spirit is spirit". i think you DONT EVEN understood why Jesus said to Peter - whatsoever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and whatsoever shall you loose (or set loose) on earth shall be loose in heaven. Your statement "according to Jesus the physical world is not real' IS A LIE!!! if you are one of them atheist, you will NEVER UNDERSTAND Scripture or the Bible.

[@robertdouglas8895]

@@albertcabrerajr992 "I have all power over heaven and earth." We do, too. "These and greater things shall you do." We do that through the will of God. We make things happen on the earth and as we know we are doing the will of God, we are uniting with his will as one.. "Thy will be done on earth and it is in heaven." “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who [a]will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me. On earth we think we are separate bodies but in reality, we are one spirit. "Judge not by appearance but judge by righteous judgment." These bodies do not show us what is true and real. For truth we must know that "You have the mind of Christ."

[@trizzytrix]

I actually thought that was a poor analogy. The makings of a good detective is being able to disprove or point out the flaws of someone else's explanation of events. You could prove Candidate X could not have done it because he was at location Y at the time. It's fine if the detective does not know yet or will ever know who committed the crime, but eliminating suspects is perfectly viable and standard procedure. Plus this system of proof is also regularly done in the scientific space.

[@albertcabrerajr992]

@@robertdouglas8895 there you go again saying "these bodies do not show us what is true and real"... something is really off with you robertdouglas... Do you even understand why the Lord Jesus/GOD MANIFESTED IN THE FLESH?? do you understand why scripture SAYS ... "But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world *to confound the wise* and God hath *chosen the weak things* of the world *to confound the things which are mighty*; and the *base things* of the world, and *things which are despised*, hath God chosen, yea, and *things which are nought*, to bring to nought things that are*... one of the best pastors i have listened to said this *You must present your bodies as LIVING SACRIFICE in God's altar*. "remember that the Altar is Greater than the sacrifice ... It is God's Altar that sanctifies the sacrifice"... Do you understand why the Lord Jesus says that ... he (Paul) has become *A VESSEL* if you have NOT ACCEPTED Jesus or even DENY Jesus, then what makes you think that you have Power over the earth? ONLY those who have believed and abide and WALK IN JESUS are partakers of HIS ESTATE. you think witches and sorcerers can partake of Jesus' Estate? if the body you have is not real to you, do you also deny that Jesus manifested in the flesh? No flesh will see the Kingdom of Heaven. True. So robertdouglas... are you a partaker in the Lord Jesus' Estate? are you a vessel of His Holy Spirit? Do you walk/abide in His will as He did in the Fathers Will. Do you deny Jesus' body in the Cross? So what are you ... Robertdouglas?

[@Penchwintan33]

I wish he'd stuck around. He seemed fairly intelligent and could've had a good debate.

[@cryptfire3158]

he did seem pretty in love with only his own thinking. that microphone guy. Him, shooting down the idea, and acting like Atheism is not a worldview. Seems he likes denial. Maybe he should be a politician

[@coachtorres5536]

I don’t think he was smart. Narcissistic yes

[@bethjarzombek4742]

I heard a lot of word salad.

[@steveeymann6374]

When you dont have an argument you argue definitions and insult your opponent.

[@emergencymedicine]

Fantastic analysis at the end. Well done!

[@boywonder6659]

This guy started by saying some people like cake some people like pie. I think he liked both.

[@amac9044]

So he doesn't belive in your God now he's a fatty... You sound like a true, genuine, loving Christian... 😂😂😂

[@graphguy]

And everything else in the frig

[@carolynfuller777]

Oh ha ha! You have an excellent sense of humor!😊😁

[@Zapdos97]

Being a bully is cool apparently

[@jasbo9734]

You do realise that you have probably insulted most of the people in your religion, and certainly most of America.

[@x_killpop_x7232]

Poor guy had it all worked out in mom’s basement with his Dungeons and Dragons crew but somehow didn’t make it from his subterranean man child cave to the surface where critical thinking and education collide.

[@StatsGam4er]

"Its easy to lounge and eat all day, but its harder to burn it all off"

[@TakingTurf]

This is a fantastic nugget you put together.

[@caseychupinski7553]

Honestly, the Columbo method is one of, if not the best tool in our tool belt for reaching difficult people. Well done, Dr.Turek!

[@statutesofthelord]

Yes, and the method proves the Evolutionist wrong too.

[@mainamwangi5374]

🤣🤣 🤡 👎🏾🥱

[@LiGhTbOrN77]

His stomach has turned the wolf on his t-shirt into a panda

[@johnrepucci4777]

I was atheist for most of my life and was recently saved and thankfully found this channel. I believed a lot of the things these people who challenge Frank and others do, however, I never felt the need to argue with, disprove, or deconstruct the opinion of anyone who believed in God. The hatred and venom in a lot of their voices is alarming and if they spent as much time opening their minds to the possibility of a creator às they do trying to hit these guys with gotcha moments, they'd be a lot happier.

[@bonelessthincrust]

Ponytail ✅ Neckbeard ✅ Enormous Moobs ✅ A Literal Wolf Shirt Holy Shit ✅ This guy is single-handedly keeping the atheist stereotype alive and well.

[@DRayL_]

Wrong. And a baseless assertion meant to be insulting...for no reason. Are you a Christian?

[@jasbo9734]

There's no hate like Christian love. Your Jesus would be very disappointed in your post. 🤣

[@bonelessthincrust]

@@jasbo9734 Nah, at this point I genuinely believe we need more Crusades christians and fewer Ned Flanders christians. The latter has allowed for too much degeneracy and decay. I know you don't actually care and just saw an opportunity to copy and paste some line you saw on twitter, but that's how I genuinely feel. Enough is enough.

[@sids5002]

@@bonelessthincrust Lazy. Why not do what your Scripture urges, in fact orders, you to do. Preach your nonsense.

[@hanslim4031]

Nah he’s just a Redditor

[@doahadi1554]

I'm just beginning to realize exactly how very interesting You Tube actually is. Awesome channel. Lovely natured host.

[@jenniferromero571]

I find it funny everyone against something good runs out when they realise they wont win.

[@stevenrogers9123]

Great debate.

[@stevendouglas3781]

This guy goes to see Frank’s talks live and knows his debate history. He’s an antitheist with a very transparent worldview.

[@roastedvegetables3737]

worldview is still a religion

[@scottbroadfoot3530]

​@@roastedvegetables3737. Worldview has which god?

[@roastedvegetables3737]

@@scottbroadfoot3530 anyone you want or don't want it's your worldview.

[@scottbroadfoot3530]

@@roastedvegetables3737 so backup your claim. Worldview is a religion.

[@scottbroadfoot3530]

@@roastedvegetables3737 I have never worship imaginary things like gods. It would be like worshipping an orc..

[@bignapolean3068]

The most successful debates that I've been a part of, have been with athiests or agnostics who understand that they have a worldview and make claims according to that view. Claiming no worldview allows a person to change the subject any time it is convenient. This, of course, makes them "feel" like they're always right.

[@CaptainFantastic222]

everyone has a world but to say unbelief is a worldview is ridiculous

[@therick363]

@@jonc3214atheist stains?

[@amac9044]

No it just highlights the fact that theists cant support their OWN worldviews...🤷🏽‍♂️

[@shadowlazers]

Are always right because not believing in magic is not a worldview it's common sense

[@jusfugly]

Atheists are not making any claims and therefore cannot be "right" or "wrong".. We are simply rejecting your claim, which is not backed by any evidence. It is up to the people making the claim to present evidence that their claim is right.

[@tommygunz4390]

The wolf shirt says it all 😂😂😂

[@DRayL_]

Says what?

[@arkikali5632]

I didn't care for his detective analogy. Because if Detective A says "I think Mr. Y did it," Detective B can validly say he disagrees without having to provide an alternate suspect. He can say, "Mr. Y did not do it. Mr. Y was at the grocery store when the murder took place." So that was a faulty comparison. And I say that as a Christian, it just was a hole in his argument.

[@derrickcarson]

"Priviledge of the Skeptic"... I really like that

[@chrisrendon461]

Skeptics are the best thing us as mankind can rely on to keep the scientist honest and the people that steal money from the masses at bay

[@JC29369]

I am glad he still finished his answer.

[@fjb3544]

I’ve never seen an atheist debate that wasn’t either disrespectful or didn’t get frustrated and either start talking over you or walk away…

[@DRayL_]

I have. And I've seen debates where the theists were disrespectful...even getting frustrated.

[@thehandyman2296]

When you decide to turn around and leave saying…. You’re lying; that means you ran out of arguments.

[@DRayL_]

Or.....the person knows that an arrogant liar is a waste of time.

[@ckokomo808]

Thank you for sharing these debates. You’ve exposed me to many compelling individuals defending God/Christianity. As I come back Home, to the faith, I’ve been grappling with these questions with a closed mind. Listening (and praying!) with an open mind and heart- these debates expose the truth of reality Thank you. 💚🙏

[@tracyavent-costanza346]

so if god is so omniscient and powerful, why can mere mortals pose questions that "He" does not seem to even bother to answer. Maybe he needs to pray for himself.