One Of The Deepest Conversations You Will Listen To About God | Dr. John Lennox

One Of The Deepest Conversations You Will Listen To About God | Dr. John Lennox | EP 394

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@verabolton Жыл бұрын

I met John in person several times when I was young, he visited my parent's home repeatedly. He is a humble man with a great sense of humour. I love him 🥰

@jordanpetersondobladoalespanol Жыл бұрын

I bet you learnt a lot from him!

@verabolton Жыл бұрын

@@jordanpetersondobladoalespanol He preached in our church and gave lectures often for a whole weeks. Yes, I learned a lot from him not only as a teacher but as a man too.

@verabolton Жыл бұрын

@@steakeater4018 Bless you 😘

@alsmith-wg4cr Жыл бұрын

@@steakeater4018new form of bot internet propaganda happening . but i could also be wrong. I don’t like being suspicious but sometimes it’s good to be right? damnation lol

@alsmith-wg4cr Жыл бұрын

@@veraboltonWould like to believe you, as many of us would I am sure. But don’t take good faith of others and assume you’ll get it back without concise details or some aspect of fact check able truth we can check.

@MattSweetman Жыл бұрын

When Lennox said that God made a sacrifice on our behalf that we could not make, I was overwhelmed to the point of tears.

@ChristovanRensburg Жыл бұрын

Same. Only someone who realises the implication of these words on a personal level will understand. Like Bob Dylan said in a song of his. "Only He, can reduce me to tears"

@gabrieledwards4794 Жыл бұрын

How can’t you love Jesus man 😊

@FYI003 Жыл бұрын

Indeed, you're 100% correct. That's the very focal point of the gospel. And John Lennox knows that full well. The glory of the gospel is that Christ died (and as such paid the sacrificial price) for our sins, once for all (past, present, and future). Something we cannot do. The very moment we understand that and place our trust in Him, the One who accomplished what we could never do, God's word tells us we are then the children of God. Christ lives, and he gives the life of God to all who trust Him, thus giving believers the power to live for Him.

@DarksTavern Жыл бұрын

Ephesians 2:8-10 KJB

@9jaForce Жыл бұрын

@@ChristovanRensburgI am elevated to tears. What humbles me, elevates me 😊

@norski4052 Жыл бұрын

1:18:26 From this point on Jordan repeatedly reframes the conversation to discuss the "psychological application" or utility of the Christian story, and each time, John brings the conversation back to gospel. I applaud John for bringing the abstract conversation to the reality of the hope we have in Christ! 👏 🙏

@hannapiasecka-shaw2521 Жыл бұрын

Spot on.

@so_zemlji Жыл бұрын

JP is called by God. And even though he cannot escape the reality of God he is trying to rationalize and divert. He is consistently refusing to yield to God's call. I'm worried for him.

@Jelly-sk2ry Жыл бұрын

@@so_zemlji agree. I observed that about Jordan Peterson even during the Exodus discussions. He always views things from a psychological perspective, even the gospel.

@DorinStanciu09 Жыл бұрын

@@so_zemlji Cristianity claims that Jesus is God the creator of all things. The Old Testament and even the New doesn't teach that. In fact Jesus talks about his father and his god as beeing THE GOD(Joan 20:17). So anyone who tries to promote Jesus as the creator makes a very big error and creates big confusions, an error which is mantained for 2000years now. So a man who tries to understand all these with his mind is unable to do that . Probably this is the reason we will not see Jordan declaring himself as beeing a christian. How could he understand Jesus is God and creator , when everywhere in the Gospels Jesus is declaring that his Father is THE GOD.

@matthewizzo3350 Жыл бұрын

⁠@@DorinStanciu09you have no conception of the trinity, Jesus is the physical incarnation of the invisible God. God has taken human form several times throughout the Bible. For example, He visited Abraham in the tent. Jesus literally says before “Abraham was, I am.”, he also says “I and the father are one.” Only God can Judge, yet Jesus can judge. Jesus IS God.

@GingerPhoenixLive 7 ай бұрын

I appreciate John and Jordan so much. Both their voices are so necessary.

@christineclements9321 Ай бұрын

A great way to put it: “Both voices are SO necessary” (emphasis mine).

@user-jv1cl2fs6m 11 ай бұрын

JP always looks forlorn, with the weight of the world teetering on his shoulders while JL has a constant jolly smile and a deep joy in the Lord that just envelops him!

@troytmd 10 ай бұрын

Nicely said Hapstance ( sorta ) vs Joy Amen

@mac9869 9 ай бұрын

That is a concisely stated truth about these two thinkers! So similar in their intellect, yet Lennox has the peace that surpasses understanding. May JP discover the Peace!

@WK-47 9 ай бұрын

Yeah, my darling ex insists he's not been the same since he came back from the incident with the pills, so sometime in early 2020 as I recall, and sometimes I worry she might be right. He's certainly always had a particularly serious (for lack of a better word) experience of the Divine than the likes of Dr Lennox. Funny, given the reputation Irish Catholics tend to have! I have to imagine it has more to do with disposition and personal experience than sect, though. JBP has only found faith fairly recently, while Lennox has had his whole life and career to perhaps be at peace with it all. Interesting stuff, to say nothing of the discussion itself. Anyway, take care and God bless (and please pray my ex finds Him!)

@wrennspencer6070 9 ай бұрын

Dr Peterson's wife was diagnosed with a terminal brain cancer, his daughter has juvenile-onset RA & Canadian gov & CPA trying to take away his license & he lost his job as a tenured professor. He has reason to seem weighted down.

@Stormmblade 9 ай бұрын

I reckon it's just as easily explainable by differences in personal temperament. You know, where they each sit on the big 5 personality traits, and all that stuff.

@Tatyana2006 Жыл бұрын

John Lennox is the CS Lewis of our time. What a blessing it is to be alive at the same time as he is! God bless him with a long life so that my children and grandchildren can also follow him and his work.

@91Lennard Жыл бұрын

Is he? I would say Os Guiness could occupy that spot too.

@bluesky45299 Жыл бұрын

How would you prove robot has consciousness using empirical data. How do you prove to blind man what color red is using empirical data. In theory, robot can be programmed to move its hand when it touches hot surface. How do I know its having the experience of hot using test tube(Deduction/induction). The only thing i am certain of is that i have experience of hot. This experience can only come from entity that can already experience existence (Allah-one/indivisible/self-sufficient/unique/All-Loving infinite perfection). If you cannot prove your own consciousness using “scientific method”, then how can you reject the existence of Perfect/infinite metaphysical being(Allah)? “Cogito ergo sum”( I think therefore I am) should be read as “cogito ergo est”(I think therefore Allah is)

@lightman2258 Жыл бұрын

JP Go to Hell. 🔥

@carlosrincon1551 Жыл бұрын

Peter Kreeft is the closest thing to CS Lewis.

@CAB-yu8uj Жыл бұрын

I believe John Lennox attended one of C.S Lewis' last lectures! :)

@KellyEngstrom Жыл бұрын

Dr. John Lennox has a way of explaining very deep and complex concepts in a way that non-academic people can easily understand. I appreciate him so much.

@brucewayner8036 10 ай бұрын

He’s a master in Apologetics. Jesus truly lives in this man’s heart

@Macmike510 10 ай бұрын

Yea the exact opposite Dr Peterson whom I have followed for nearly a decade and honestly have keep a dictionary on hand during every talk.

@Darko.Damjanovic 10 ай бұрын

He said "l believe there is a strong evidence that Jesus rose from the dead" and than proceeds with "Christ promises...".Thats not an argument or proof or anything.Thats the DELUSION in its purest form.Where is the evidence(beside his desperate wish to believe it)?This guy just says what you want to hear.I am not an atheist, l do believe that Lennox is right when he points out that something had to originate our universe.The issue is when you try to attach your Jesus or Muhammad or Moses or whoever to that force you are making extremly stupid mistake.

@brianmabasa5251 10 ай бұрын

@@Darko.Damjanovic So until when are you going to remain in your "guessing game"? You are just going to figure everything after you die? If you believe we were created by something or someone, isnt it common sense that you search for that truth? Christians always attach Jesus in any conversation because they cant help but share it because for them the experience that they had must be shared. Its not as if they are shoving it down everyones throat. You can say no if you want. Whats weird is others like Islam, Buddism, Judaism etc. If they claim that what they have is the truth, which is the answer to everything, then why arent they sharing it with everyone? Why is it only Christians? To the point of Christians even dying for sharing the truth that they claim that they discovered? Why is that? In addition, Jesus commanded to share the news of salvation to everyone. My problem is with people like you who are so mad when a Christian talks about Jesus. Jordan did not have any problem with it, why should you? You can always say no. Whats the big deal? whats your deal?

@richardowusu7520 9 ай бұрын

@Darko.Djamanovic What proof fundamentally would you like for a 2024 year old death if not historically proven accounts😊

@TheGreaterU 6 ай бұрын

Absolutely loved this conversation. The more I study sciences, theology, and life, the more I see the Hand of God in it all.

@josaphatyola2535 2 ай бұрын

You're right. I have the same feeling 😊

@KnusperFlocke-h3q Ай бұрын

Love that Mate, i will study molecular Biology and Focus on Peptide science.

@guydegroof2217 5 күн бұрын

That’s the just the element of ignorance in you that you want to give a name. Gods are coverups for human ignorance.

@justinjones5281 4 күн бұрын

@@guydegroof2217so you are aware that statement contradicts itself. You are a human aren’t you? Try to explain how we have evolved without intending to change. Science has already proven that evolution is DNA best guess if the future reality to exist in.

@TheSaiyanRace Жыл бұрын

John Lennox is the person I've been waiting for Jordan to have a conversation with for years. I really do hope they have many more as Jordan needs more of the Theological side of these ideas that he discusses.

@julieredmond5192 Жыл бұрын

Hear hear!

@Daedalus1111 Жыл бұрын

The immense irony of John lennox and Jordan Peterson being on a thumbnail along with the word "truth" on it is just too great though lol you have to admit

@philosphorus Жыл бұрын

@@Daedalus1111it would disgust me if it was not so hysterically outrageous

@philosphorus Жыл бұрын

@@cole-thomasc theo + logical do not belong in the same vicinity. That is a neoplatonic fraud. This is what monotheism and christianity is 1. Strip the color from precious marble sculptures which remind people of meaningful things in life 2. Invent the idea of 'idol' and separate meaning in life into black and white descriptions 3. Make people themselves into colorless statues; copy and pasted identities 4. Make people forget there was actually a society that cared about their humanness 5. Brainwash people to characterize everything contrary to its totalitarian mechanism as "pagan."

@Jmetz22 Жыл бұрын

@@Daedalus1111ya and let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

@tristanros6148 Жыл бұрын

I'm a 16 year old born again Christian. I have been waiting for Jordan to have a conversation with Dr. Lennox for quite some time now. I have once again learned a lot, thank you.

@pigetstuck Жыл бұрын

Have you told your faith journey online or written it up?

@garrettgengler7637 Жыл бұрын

Bless you in the name of Jesus 🙏🏼, I was born again 2 years ago. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

@tristanros6148 11 ай бұрын

@@pigetstuck I do have a written testimony, but it's not posted online

@pigetstuck 11 ай бұрын

@@tristanros6148 Would you be game for sharing it?

@HallucinatingHell 11 ай бұрын

59:16 For or better or for worse, your ideas have consequences

@emagreene9775 Жыл бұрын

I'm an accountant and an economist. I'm also a Christian. Meeting Dr. Lennox gave me comfort in the sense that I'm no longer alone in my stand point. Have a huge admiration for this man. ❤ Thank you Mr. Peterson.

@potatorekt7046 Жыл бұрын

“At the head of our program there stand no secret surmisings but clear-cut perception and straightforward profession of belief. But since we set as the central point of this perception and of this profession of belief the maintenance and hence the security for the future of a being formed by God, we thus serve the maintenance of a divine work and fulfill a divine will - not in the secret twilight of a new house of worship, but openly before the face of the Lord.” - Hitler, 6 September 1938 at Nuremberg

@GreyForceTK Жыл бұрын

JP should rethink to the slow down on the judeo-christian moniker. If going to speak of Abrahamic religion then shouldnt it be judeo-christian-islam traditions? The entire world let alone much of the West do not believe in Abrahamic religions. It is narrowing to speak of it as encompassing the entire world let alone just judeo-christian aspects of the 3 pronged abrahamic religions. To speak of judeo-christian as everyone in the world will understand him or to speak of it in a term that leaves out the Islam aspect of it puts a shadow over the entire premises of these conversations. It creates a blind spot, which can be world destabilizing in its affect which is evident in how the world, especially in the West and middle east, have been going over the past 2000 years. Something is wrong and not working. And it seems JP has hit a wall in his ability to analyze it unbiasedly.

@jayjaygeez Жыл бұрын

@@GreyForceTK It's "Judeo-Christian" because Islam isn't truly an Abrahamic religion, contrary to Muhammad's claims. At a fundamental level, the Qur'anic worldview does not match the Biblical worldview. This is repeatedly, and I mean repeatedly, evident when studying and comparing the Qur'an to the Bible. For that reason, Islam isn't included in discussing the West's religious influences - it just didn't really have much, if anything, to do with shaping Western thought. That's why the Islamic perspective is usually left out of the conversation about the Western conception of God. And I suppose JP could be clearer about defining what he means when he says "Judeo-Christian", but I think that's better left to the viewer to find out for themselves rather than having him use time in these discussions to recap information most people choosing to watch them probably already have at least somewhat of a grasp on. These are not entry-level discussions. I don't think there's any way to have this particular discussion in a way that just anyone from any culture worldwide could easily understand even if he did take some time to explain, honestly.

@JesusLovesTheLost Жыл бұрын

@@jayjaygeez Well said.

@chrishanson7006 Жыл бұрын

Ema - may I ask what makes u say that? It sounds like Dr Lennox helps with reconciling your accountant/economist side with your Christian side. Do I understand that right? What is it about those 2 sides that creates dissonance or at least something that needs so be reconciled. I ask because I’m an attorney and I feel that same way - that my career and most everything about the modern world doesn’t fit well with my Christian beliefs. How would u describe the thoughts or views from Lennox that help u integrate everything?? Thx.

@carolsims5385 4 ай бұрын

Where was God when I suffered? He was at the exact same place that He was when His only Son suffered & died on the cross for our sin.❤

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"When folks go to their local ministries for the diversity of reasons for which they do, how often are they subjected to the notion of how to check and crosscheck their premises? How often does the man behind the pulpit spend time chewing over the methodology required to check the validity of a premise, much less a concept, to identify how they relate to reality, how to crosscheck them with other known facts which have also been validated by the same rigorous process? How many congregations are even aware that such notions exist out in the world about them or understand them well enough to implement and utilize the principles within and among themselves?" -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum

@moviestoshare813 2 ай бұрын

@@Youttubeuser20932 I don’t think you understand the notion of Free Will, (or know the Biblical narrative that God INSISTED to give us Free Will) and the repercussions that flow from it. If God showed up in the sky for all to see… (as you and so many atheists claim they would want God to do) well then BY DOING SO… God would STUMP the Free Will of people… because then there wouldn’t be anyway for people to choose to NOT believe in God the same way you can’t deny the existence of the sun.

@owenlee4585 Ай бұрын

@@Youttubeuser20932do you have any rationale for that first claim?

@owenlee4585 Ай бұрын

⁠@@Youttubeuser20932your “#2” point that your argument rests on has no proof or substance. It is a simple restatement of the proposition that free will doesn’t exist. And to assume that, because science can reveal the atomic and subatomic world, that fundamental truth stops at that point is to discard the possibility of the existence of anything nonphysical. As detailed in this video, however, nonphysical things, such as morality and love, are real and do truly exist beyond evolutionary programming and brain chemistry. I believe I have free will because of the following: 1) The order and majesty of the universe unilaterally insists on the existence of an intelligent designer. To believe that it sprang into existence from nothing is absolutely illogical and far more preposterous than belief in a higher power. 2) The Bible, through uncanny historical and scientific accuracy, unparalleled timeless wisdom, verified prophecy, and 100% congruency and synergy across all of its books, shows itself to be of divine origin. 3) Having identified that the Bible is divinely inspired, free will is an absolute truth. The Bible would not extend an invitation to its readers if God did not build within them an ability to make their own choices. Additionally, the Bible states that God wants to become friends with each one of us, and enjoys us showing our love to him. Would this make any sense if we were pre-programmed? If I programmed a robot to say it loves me, would that love be genuine? The honest expression of any emotion is absolutely contingent upon the existence of free will. 4) The absence of free will absolutely absolves every person of responsibility in any capacity. To me, this is a disgusting nightmare and not one that I choose to give any weight to. I am a human, made in the image of God, and I have been given the gift of life that I am free to use in any capacity. It is the most precious gift anyone could ever receive. The nightmarish alternative to a life of free will is not a reality that fits the personality of the creator who has described himself in the Bible.

@ithurtsbecauseitstrue Ай бұрын

@Youttubeuser20932 yawn. so original. they repeat the dumbest strawman statements and giggling thinking themselves wise. missing the point doesnt make it go away. It just means you missed it

@MartinJones92 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely fascinating - one man wrestling with lots of life's big questions and one gently serene in the calm and unflappable assurance of the answers that have been revealed to him. I hope it makes a lot of people think seriously.

@X2Ronbo Жыл бұрын

This is exactly how I saw it too.

@rebeccabeez4628 Жыл бұрын

This is a great answer. What got me a bit irritated was that JP kept on interrupting John (mostly out of excitement) but I wish John had more speaking time. Maybe it’s just me. Idk.

@darioferrari9794 Жыл бұрын

@@rebeccabeez4628welcome to the JBP podcast 😅

@misioyoggi Жыл бұрын

That's exactly the impression I got when listening to these brilliant men.

@aleksandarlikic7460 Жыл бұрын

Blessed are the ones who have answers revealed to them. I only wish they could answer my skepticism in a more convincing manner than "it was revealed to me". Because I have no idea if they've been day dreaming or not.

@kwabenaagyapong-kodua2028 11 ай бұрын

Peterson has a lot to learn from Lennox in fairness. The simplicity of thoughts, the biblical strength and scientific rigour of Lennox are exceptional.

@snail847 9 ай бұрын

So true!!

@GeoCoppens 8 ай бұрын

The scientific rigor is ZERO! He is a brainwashed fool!!! Remember!!!

@Redheadedlady55 8 ай бұрын

~So glad I stumbled across Dr. John Lennox on KZbin one day...his insight is simply profound. 🙂

@GeoCoppens 8 ай бұрын

Lennox is a superstitious fool! That's all!

@darkfox77 7 ай бұрын

The mind that just goes for the simplest explanation and then fully embraces it is order of Magnitude more superior than the one that just stays in 1 location and never moves. In essence the exact opposite of what montra everybody chants endlessly, keep an open mind.

@toluwalasearinola2908 Жыл бұрын

You won't get tired of listening to john lennox,he is a blessing of God..

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

Lennox proves nothing, believes everything, uses the appeal to authority logical fallacy, the argument from ignorance fallacy and falsely claims to have proven the unprovable. I call 🐂

@The7logiebears 5 ай бұрын

I just discovered John Lennox, I can’t stop listening to him and looking for his talks. What a great thinker and communicator!! Thank God for John Lennox .

@helenpenner9899 12 күн бұрын

Me too

@helenpenner9899 12 күн бұрын

Yes!! ❤ Such a good communicator

@kengy1991 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Lennox has such a calming and personable demeanor. Thankful that the Lord is using him each and every day.

@Lol-vt2ln Жыл бұрын

Watch his debate with Cristopher Hitchens. The ENTIRE thing. You will immediately know the truth about god.

@Lol-vt2ln Жыл бұрын

@@MarisaHoare-px8or no he didn’t LMAO

@Lol-vt2ln Жыл бұрын

@@MarisaHoare-px8or making stuff up online per the Christian usual

@einherjar2545 Жыл бұрын

Funny you say that. When he explained the light and how you should follow it to be beside it all the time, I thought, this is what it is. He as this "glow" I could not explain.

@jpnoobieeiboonpj858 Жыл бұрын

John Lennox is a brilliant brother in Christ. Love that man and his ministry.

@matthewm7590 Жыл бұрын

John has been one of my favorite Christian thinkers for as long as I’ve been interested in the topic of Christianity, philosophy, and religion. He’s so great.

@isaaccutlip5815 Жыл бұрын

First time hearing him, he gets it👍

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"If the interpretations of God's will are merely the interpretations of one's consciousness, then the ravings of any control-freak can become the "Word of God." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum

@daddyrock9159 5 ай бұрын

You never see a gentleman’s debate like this anymore. Praying for Jordan s salvation. I can’t imagine Heaven without him.

@desert_rose7171 2 ай бұрын

Conversation. Dr JP is already saved isn’t he?

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"Have you studied Objectivism? Do you really think it's just a list of facts about reality? It's a philosophy, a comprehensive view of existence, a theory of knowledge, a guide to moral action and an inspiration to achieve the highest possible to you. That sounds like a lot more than just some boring list of facts." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum

@Laura.templeton 10 ай бұрын

John Lennox is one of the few truly brilliant minds of our times because he is a humble man loving God. ❤

@GeoCoppens 8 ай бұрын

WRONG!! He is mentally ill!

@user-rv4go7ry3v 3 ай бұрын

It's precisely because (not "and yet") he is a humble man loving God that makes him a truly brilliant mind.

@Laura.templeton 3 ай бұрын

@@user-rv4go7ry3v You're right. I'm going to change it.

@heldineialima4253 2 ай бұрын

Is he converted now?

@Laura.templeton 2 ай бұрын

@@heldineialima4253 What do you mean? He's a Christian

@akpaul9883 Жыл бұрын

Professor Lennox is the GOAT of speaking into the nexus of modern science and theism. This collaboration was long overdue and greatly appreciated. Thank you, Jordan.

@johngillingham5006 Жыл бұрын

Though he would reject your luciferian praise. Goat being symbolic of satan/baphomet.

@Daedalus1111 Жыл бұрын

He's the GOAT at logical fallacies

@jacobstewart9295 Жыл бұрын

@Daedalus1111 I would love to see you debate this man and defend your worldview. Just my opinion, but I'd put money on John instead of a random commenter on KZbin. Given that he's more intelligent than me and you combined lol.

@Daedalus1111 Жыл бұрын

@@jacobstewart9295 I'll grant you that in real time I'm a shit debater. Especially against someone who is used to speaking publicly on stage. But the fact that I've sat through tens of thousands of hours of claims of people like John lennox and including John lennox and was able to point out the fallacies in that reasoning, id say you'd lose your bet as to who is capable of making a better argument. For instance, John believes in an impossible imaginary being. That doesn't sound like a very stable genius does it? It sounds like someone who ought to be on the street corner in tattered clothes with a cardboard sign yelling at traffic but he got lucky enough for someone to give him a stage. He got lucky enough to live in a world where 80% of people were just as terrified into idiocy as he is.

@jacobstewart9295 Жыл бұрын

@Daedalus1111 can you prove to me that God belongs in the category of imagery or "magic" if God lies on the outside of time, space, matter, and energy. How can you prove that John's opinion is wrong. You can't put the supernatural in a test tube and examine it based on our physical properties. And he doesn't speak on stage just because of random luck, lol. Like I said, he has more knowledge of reality and the supernatural than me, and you combined you can justify that.

@ed17escobar Жыл бұрын

There's one thing I just realized I love about Dr. Peterson, and it is his humbleness to really appreciate how much he can learn from other people. Rule 9.

@dskorcik 10 ай бұрын

YES!!!! He is always open to having his mind changed by a reasonable argument to the contrary of any belief he holds, regardless of how deeply held that belief is. And conversely, his refusal to succumb to the woke bullying that tries to force a change of belief without the necessary logical argument that would warrant such a change. He is the most genuinely and humbly honest man of our times. He is an example for us all. The goal is not to be right, it's to find the truth.

@johnmenzies3649 9 ай бұрын

Pride is Peterson's stumbling block...looks like humility but he is unwilling to get off the throne if his life...we are sinners saved by God's grace....

@joycevaldes4548 9 ай бұрын

❤💯 spot on

@GingerPhoenixLive 7 ай бұрын

He's real. He's honest. He is humble.

@PsychonautInstitute 7 ай бұрын

Rule 9?

@elizabethryan2217 6 ай бұрын

We seriously owe so much to academic and other pillars of the Faith, like Prof Lennox. Together, they are literally helping to save the lives of so many, and keep others going with the Great Commission. I feel so humbled by, and grateful for them. Clearly, God knew we'd need their help!!

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"...supernatural events or beings are a contradiction to metaphysical reality." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum

@johnclark5115 9 ай бұрын

John Lennox is a fantastic listener.

@kenelmtonkin1 7 ай бұрын

Six words say so much.

@SMacCuUladh 7 ай бұрын

you literally made me laugh out loud.

@elizabethryan2217 6 ай бұрын

Exactly my thoughts! He's great.

@roido6614 5 ай бұрын

The Man is a Wise Mathematician. Why waist Unnecessary Energy? Peace!

@lesliemccauley2003 5 ай бұрын

Does he have a choice? 🧐

@lukeverble5999 Жыл бұрын

John Lennox was one of three who brought me back to God. So awesome to see these two speak with each other.

@Lol-vt2ln Жыл бұрын

Watch his debate with Cristopher Hitchens. The ENTIRE thing. You will immediately know the truth about god.

@AleInBywater Жыл бұрын

Agree. Who else? I am guessing William Lane Craig and someone else?😅

@exiledskunk5046 Жыл бұрын

I would also really like to know who the other two are. Personally not quite there yet. Jordan Peterson brought me back away from the new atheist phase i had in my late teens. Jay Dyer is one of the main ones i currently follow with other orthodox channels but looking for other interesting thinkers/channels

@davidbrenneman1574 Жыл бұрын

@@exiledskunk5046 on the philosophical front check out Dr William Lane Craig On the biblical/textual front check out Dr Daniel B Wallace On the scientific front check out astrophysicist Dr Hugh Ross and micro biologist Dr James Tour There are many other great mind discussing those issues but those would be my short lists of which Dr Lennox is also on the top of.

@ostricks1983 Жыл бұрын

@@exiledskunk5046 might be William Lane Craig. Both him and John Lennox were instrumental in cementing my faith!

@reuben.l.murray Жыл бұрын

I have been waiting for years and years to witness Dr.Lennox and Dr.Peterson having a conversation. It finally happened..!! This is amazing.💚💚 Professor Lennox is the kindest and the most humble intellectual, you can’t not love him. Thank you for this episode Dr. Peterson.

@cfore6639 Жыл бұрын

Yes. Yes. Oh my gosh! Yes! Me too! Dream come true!

@brandonsummitt7579 Жыл бұрын

Same here. I was wondering if it would ever happen.

@jf7243 Жыл бұрын

Indeed!

@severusgomez4979 Жыл бұрын

@@brandonsummitt7579dude same!!!!

@severusgomez4979 Жыл бұрын

Same!!

@hjr2000 8 ай бұрын

I've been privileged to meet John a number of times. What a wonderful, Godly and humble man.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

" Do not say that you’re afraid to trust your mind because you know so little. Are you safer in surrendering to mystics and discarding the little that you know? Live and act within the limit of your knowledge and keep expanding it to the limit of your life." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum

@missmagillicutty6721 Жыл бұрын

OUTSTANDING EPISODE!!!!💯🎤💧 These two men are absolute gifts to our time on this earth. Thank you Mr. Peterson and Mr. Lennox for everything you do!!! God bless!! 🙏😇🥰

@doc_phil Жыл бұрын

Absolutely.

@imnotanalien7839 Жыл бұрын

28:43… how do you come up with a hypothesis..(thought)… There is present thought, but behind that is subconscious thought, running on its own and very rational. But it can pop into present thought. I had this happen. 😂 Only once that I’m aware of. It’s such an interesting topic. This discussion was fascinating, I could listen to John Lennox all day with his wonderful Irish accent and his brilliant mind. Jordan Peterson is the perfect person to pair with John Lennox on faith and science. I hope they have many more discussions! ❤️✝️

@missmagillicutty6721 Жыл бұрын

@@doc_phil 🙏😇🥰

@missmagillicutty6721 Жыл бұрын

@@imnotanalien7839 Absolutely!!!!🙏😇🥰

@justanothernick3984 Жыл бұрын

@@imnotanalien7839 Yes, it’s like the olympic level of mental gymnastics. That’s a good way of thinking about it. 😃

@ImxxFuZe Жыл бұрын

We want more of John Lennox! Please, All of us would love it if you both collaborated more often =D

@laurafortier9295 Жыл бұрын

I don't know what it is, but there is something powerful about hearing about Jesus from an Irish believer. They put things so beautifully. Like painting a picture in my mind. I could listen to him for hours

@FatherNDaughterFun Жыл бұрын

Same. 🙂

@barrywhite36 Жыл бұрын

The old Belfast accent . Fascinating in its own right . One of the worlds wonders

@SMacCuUladh Жыл бұрын

@@barrywhite36 He'a not from Belfast, he's from the small city of Armagh. The Belfast accent is alittle harsher on the ear, lol.

@gracie30ish Жыл бұрын

Same and though I love listening to Jordan Peterson Lennox was able to connect the mind to the soul for me.

@WashingtonDC99 Жыл бұрын

I love the Irish ❤❤

@skjoiner1234 8 күн бұрын

I'm so glad I just have a simple mind-at the age of 49 I became a believer-for some reason I never needed to pick apart my beliefs with science-I'm 57 and I'm more in love with Jesus than ever. Nothing will ever change my view

@brycew2 Жыл бұрын

I can't express how lovable John Lennox is. How could anyone dislike this guy?

@khaoulalin8792 Жыл бұрын

For god to be God ..he don't need to do a sacrifice ...THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUE GOD "the CREATER of everything... who made this life as a test for people...who opened the door of repentence and who do not have a son or a father...he is the one who created Adam and he is the one who created Jesus as a miracle and a great prophet and messanger to his people...to be a guide clarifying to them what thy have to do and what they have to avoid.... i believe that there is no God but ALLAH and Mouhamed and Jesus are prophets and messengers of Allah...as well as Ibrahem and moses peace be upon all of them... In this life , we're going to consume every chance to see the truth..so that in the day of judgment we'll not have other than ourself to blame...don't rely on anyone ..just open heart to the one who created you...the one who see you..ask him to show you the way ..honestly believe in him .

@verabolton Жыл бұрын

@@khaoulalin8792 Mr copy/paste 🙄

@klopcodez Жыл бұрын

Uneducated people who think they know better do

@courageousmelon5654 Жыл бұрын

I dislike him because he says nutcase things such as "atheism is a worldview". Atheism is the position of not being convinced any deity exists. Sure, it is a part of a worldview, but one can be an atheist and still believe in healing crystals, magic, horoscopes. It is not a worldview and it is just absurd to suggest it is.

@apopheniapareidolia Жыл бұрын

I'm confused as to why you express so strongly against the suggestion that atheism is a world view. Can you elaborate why you disagree.

@newyorkwes Жыл бұрын

growing up in the early 90s, john lennox and his family lived in our street (cardiff, uk). i (along with some other boys in the street) were very good friends with john’s youngest son. we’d skateboard down the lane next to their house, and play video games (snes)! john was always reading or writing in his study in the house. a very kind and warm hearted man.

@Maranatha-rk7lh Жыл бұрын

Oh I wish I lived in Prof Lennox' neighbourhood, too 😊❤

@reneeoceankim Жыл бұрын

John Lennox really inspires me to declare the Truth of the gospel wherever I am put. Thank you for inviting Dr. Lennox!

@khaoulalin8792 Жыл бұрын

@verabolton Жыл бұрын

@@khaoulalin8792 Mr copy/paste 🙄

@kateknowles8055 4 ай бұрын

@@khaoulalin8792 Only the belief in the divinity of one born before the emperor Nero divides my heart from yours. I love your pillars of faith , your honest thinking thorough these and beyoind, and you witness to the Almighty and All merciful. Salaam.

@geoffreychandran9654 6 ай бұрын

Dr John Lennox is a gift from God to all born again Bible believers ! He is unequivocally the most eloquent and influential defender of Christianity and the infallible Word of GOD ! He is the C S Lewis and G K Chesterton in this incredible and challenging time we JESUS followers are living in ! I am always delighted and excited whenever I tune in to his revelatory talks! GOD will bless everyone listening to him ! Cheers ❤

@lmdrn06 Жыл бұрын

Jordan Peterson hurts my head, yet I love to hear him speak. And John Lennox, wow! I would love to sit and talk with him for days!

@GingerPhoenixLive 7 ай бұрын

Imagine having Peterson's brain. Must be exhausting. He has so much info in there. His arguments are sound in most debates and he has been attacked so badly. I appreciate him a great deal. John does a beautiful job simplifying complex topics. He paints pictures.

@johnsteichen5239 7 ай бұрын

Yes he hurts my head. He goes out of his way to use words I have to look up. That’s irritating at age 81. Dr Lennox deftly handles complex subjects with humility and wisdom.

@KN-hh3sv 6 ай бұрын

Glad it’s not just me….I feel like he goes out of his way to make things overly difficult to understand. I’d love to understand what he’s saying though, because it sounds like a revelation.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

" If there's any sensible question to answer, I believe that it is done via philosophy. Whatever it is that makes religion "religion" -- mystical claims to knowledge, a belief in the supernatural, etc. -- are mistaken. Whatever is left over that is good about religious institutions, including a sense of community, artistic inspiration, charitable organization, etc., is no less available to the secular and the rational." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum

@christinechongwo3795 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Prof. Lennox. So refreshing to hear you speak. You've hada big influence in my Christian walk

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"I direct you toward Objectivism, the philosophy of Ayn Rand. In her system, she identifies the needs of men succinctly. She talks about individualism, productivity, a flourishing life, an exchange of physical and emotional values between men. Importantly, she provides reasoning to substantiate her claims." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum

@humblehalfacre8464 Жыл бұрын

John Lennox.... humble wholesome, timeless believer.

@alisacarideo1984 8 ай бұрын

Want so much to attend Mr. Lennox’s lectures. He’s so humble, honest, combined with a sweet sense of humor! I try to watch all his you tubes…and with child-like faith underneath God’s gifts to him with intelligence, is so awesome how much he loves Jesus and brings God to those who have the equal intelligence and can understand the gospel from his heart and expertise. The Lord bless both him and those in his heart…thank you Lord for giving him to us!!!✝🙌🐏👏🏼❤

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"...man does not create reality and can achieve his values only by making his decisions consonant with the facts of reality. " -Ayn Rand-

@tonikirk5493 10 ай бұрын

Thank you, Jordan, for inviting, Dr. John Lennox onto your program. These insights are so comforting while stimulating.

@chri7im 11 ай бұрын

So beautiful how John repeatedly weaves the gospel into his answers with so much wisdom

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"Objectivism, as I understand it, provides the most rational answer any void of faith, or for that matter, any misguided modern or ancient philosophical study." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum-

@chri7im 2 ай бұрын

@@BeefT-Sq "You can’t go on 'seeing through' things forever. The whole point of seeing through something is to see something through it. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see." - C.S. Lewis "Objectively" "seeing through" everything without ever committing to any truth or belief leads to a kind of blindness, where nothing is truly understood or valued.

@beaconoftruth1990 Жыл бұрын

I can't describe how grateful I am to be alive during this time with thinkers like JP and John Lennox. Conversations like this set my soul heart and mind on fire. Thank you gentlemen for this rich thought provoking conversation🙏🏽

@Tokernoph Жыл бұрын

Agreed we’re living in strange times but I bet future generations will be looking back listening to Jordan and saying, “Why couldn’t we all see it?” But it’ll be too late.

@winniethuo9736 11 ай бұрын

What do you think of the great psychologist Robert Spalvosky on his work? Some of his thinking and findings stored in his book Determined?

@sabrinashaw9939 10 ай бұрын

So well said, my feelings exactly!

@ritzy0891 10 ай бұрын

True

@jfuzi3605 4 ай бұрын

This type of interaction is yet again proof of God, I live in a world where 2 of the worlds most brilliant people are willing to hash out important things and give it to all of humanity for free. ...........these men are a gift from the cosmos we live in.

@stephen1137 3 ай бұрын

T'he cosmos is Satan's domain. I prefer to thank Yaweh.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"Indoctrination of children by parents and care givers, school teachers etc. during the formative years of cognition subvert the natural inclination toward reason and understanding from experience i.e. reality, and replace it with a predisposition for evasion, mysticism, and emotionalism as adolescents and adults.. from which only a few escape." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum

@markbrainard1783 Жыл бұрын

Amazing serendipitous thing happened to me. I discovered John Lennox only a couple weeks ago and have been watching an array of his videos. Just yesterday (6Nov2023) it occurred to me that perhaps Jordan had interviewed him before so I searched for it. Voila! This interview had just been released literally a few hours prior to me having searched for it! Thank you Jordan! Dr. Lennox is a treasure.

@Maranatha-rk7lh Жыл бұрын

I discovered Prof Lennox some years ago. He is a gift to humanity❤

@snoxeri Жыл бұрын

God is great

@awoj51 Жыл бұрын

Watch Hitchens- Lennox debate.

@charitysimon-peraboh5555 Жыл бұрын

I imagine the feeling 😂😂

@artemisaduenas6120 Жыл бұрын

I just discovered him and I am crying with joy.

@betterdaysahead3746 Жыл бұрын

I love Dr. Lennox and I imagine a conversation with him would be absolutely lovely. Thank you for this interview, Jordan, and thank you both for your humility and love for mankind. God bless.

@TheSvRoma 10 ай бұрын

I do not see a combination of humbleness and wisdom very often... Thank you Jordan for bringing John.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"Objectivism for example provides a source Certainty and Principled thinking." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum

@11even_ 7 ай бұрын

Idk how it happens but it happens everytime. An hour and a half conversation seemingly feeling like it was only 15 minutes 😭 thank you to both gentlemen for taking the time and I hope to hear/see it happen again in the near future 🫶🏽

@audioglenngineer Жыл бұрын

The simple joy in Lennox’ face at listening to Peterson’s propositions is my favorite part of this conversation. Whether I agree or fully understand him, I always enjoy his friendly, ornery undertone. The world could use more of that.

@SMacCuUladh Жыл бұрын

there are a lot of videos of Dr Lennox on youtube, the more you watch the more the deeper meaning of some of his points enter into your own understanding.

@meglukes Жыл бұрын

I remember watching a recording of one of his debates with Richard Dawkins and a top comment was that it was like watching an Irish Santa Claus debate the devil. He’s just got that special demeanor no matter what he’s doing.

@philosphorus Жыл бұрын

@@meglukesHe is a sanctimonious narcissist, just like Peterson. Two peas in a pod.

@williammcqueen1951 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely Spot on 100%, audioglenngineer! I thought the same too. Guy is a National Treasure. I have all his books; if only I had 1/10 of that wonderful brain and personality.

@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760 Жыл бұрын

Lennox is very much like the wise grandfather. He smiles knowlingly as the child bumps into obstacles left and right, knowing that the child will eventually find the path. Along the way he offers bits of wisdom that you'll only understand in time when you think it's your own idea.

@milo_thatch_incarnate Жыл бұрын

When I this episode, I gasped aloud and exclaimed “oh my gosh. Oh my gosh!”, so much that my husband asked what the matter was 😂 I came to faith in Christ _because_ of Dr. John Lennox, and a few other apologists of his caliber. I’m a very logical person, and I don’t believe anything without good evidence and rationale behind it… Dr. Lennox was one of the people who revealed to me just how much of that there is for the claims of the Bible. This episode makes me so happy. I’m so pleased for you, Jordan, that you got to speak with Dr. Lennox.

@philosphorus Жыл бұрын

You have been lied to and manipulated. Jordan Peterson said his favorite philosopher is Nietzsche. Nietzsche said Christianity needs to be extirpated and literally "poisons everything." He actually said "Every time I shake the hand of a religious man I feel the sincere need to wash my hands."

@pigetstuck Жыл бұрын

What other apologists do you respect?

@milo_thatch_incarnate Жыл бұрын

@@pigetstuck - Good question! I love Dr. Frank Turek, J Warner Wallace, Greg Koukl, Lee Strobel, and Dr. Voddie Baucham as well, because they're also logical and evidence driven.

@desert_rose7171 2 ай бұрын

Sounds like you also need a minute or 2 with Dr Lenox

@megalopolis2015 Жыл бұрын

What a blessing to hear these two men interact. If anyone can get Jordan Peterson further down the road in his walk of faith in God, it's the marvelous John Lennox. They're both international treasures. ❤

@Apriluser 9 ай бұрын

He is nearing the Kingdom. 😊

@debbiepenny465 9 ай бұрын

I hope that Jordan can get out of his brilliant mind. His faith in God needs to be purposeful and understandable. BUT there is a great NEED for FAITH in this entire walk. God must draw Jordan to Himself. He is very knowledgeable about the Bible. My question is: does Jordan KNOW the Author and Logos of the Bible? Praying that Jordan’s SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING will be awakened. Dr. Lennox is DEFINITELY a wonderful roadmap toward Jordan’s understanding in this manner.

@wealthengineer7259 9 ай бұрын

@@debbiepenny465I totally concur. What he knows need to settle in his heart. Too much head knowledge but the eyes of his understanding must be enlightened.

@Toasted_Buttons 9 ай бұрын

Jordan Peterson has already converted, he had a huge tearful break down talking about it, jordan peterson just likes doing a psychological analysis of it which is good and its very important modernly because hes shown that the bible truly encompasses every single institution of what it means to be human and to me thats only made it stronger.

@douglasdavis4413 8 ай бұрын

Lean not on your own understanding... JP has a brilliant mind but at the absolute base it requires faith.

@druhandarkrock2678 28 күн бұрын

The older I get the more I love to hear good men talk with great minds you gentlemen are truly my Elders. My Captain My Captain!

@richardjones3917 10 ай бұрын

First time I was hoping Dr. Peterson would be quiet a little and let Dr. Lennox speak more. Or ask questions to develop Lennox's ideas a little more. I feel Dr. Peterson is exploring his thinking process out loud. It's fascinating most of the time, because he's a deep thinker, but I felt Dr. Lennox more coherent and concise in this conversation. Still, very grateful this is available for us! Thanks Dr. Peterson.

@richardjones3917 10 ай бұрын

For sure! And it is Dr. Peterson’s podcast after all! Just would have liked to see a little more engagement with Dr Lennox’s ideas here than so much “trying to work out my own thinking process” from Dr Peterson. I’m a deep admirer of Peterson and his valuable work, but thought he had something to learn from Lennox on this day.

@hannahbaker3080 9 ай бұрын

Yes, Dr. Peterson is what he presents, and I think he is seeking this stuff out with great rigor and even some deep agony. He seems to be on a quest to find God and Jesus said “if you seek Me you will find Me if you seek Me with all your heart.” Peterson has seemed pretty heart felt the last year or two and all the more recently. To Gos be the Glory, I think Peterson will come to saving faith😊

@juliecruz1339 6 ай бұрын

God's Word is simple truth and meant to be understood by mankind, unless made complicated by man himself, e.g. the "Darwinian escape."

@erikB10 4 ай бұрын

You spoke my mind

@Zdp24 2 ай бұрын

I hesitated to watch Peterson because of his not letting his guests talk and his exhausting long and complex sentences, but I love Dr John Lennox too much to miss any talk with him in it❤

@jkturtle Жыл бұрын

I have been wishing for this conversation to happen! Jordan, please open your mind and heart to John's revelations of truth!

@mystrength5640 Жыл бұрын

I pray for Prof Peterson and his Family to open their hearts to Jesus, Fully !

@susanjaneturner Жыл бұрын

The Holy Spirit was sent to convict of sin and to convince the person of the truth of Christ being the final sacrifice, our Redeemer. Please remember dear Jordon that He and His sacrifice and resurrection is not a metaphor.

@parjau4554 Жыл бұрын

It does seem that Jordan has made an idol out of intellectualism. But God is inconceivably beyond human intellect. Far, far more than a human's intellect is beyond a flea. Beside's that, the spiritual world does not 'make sense' intellectually. It does not follow 3 dimensional or human logic. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. He does seem to be hovering around Christianity but another thing that may be holding him back (from taking the leap) is his ego and desire to be respected by everyone. E.g. what would muslims think of him if he declared he was a Christian?

@guyfeldman4404 Жыл бұрын

Wonder how these two giants deal with the problem that everything we " know " about Jesus was written 40 + years after the fact , probably by people who were not actually eye-witnesses to the events.

@parjau4554 Жыл бұрын

@@guyfeldman4404 Jesus was crucified 33AD. 1 Corinthians was written ~50AD. In 1 Cor 15:6, Paul says, talking of the resurrected Jesus: "After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep." "Most of whom are still living!". Seems an easily refutable statement but it was never refuted. Also, Paul in his letters speaks of meeting and having discussions with Peter/Cephas (of deny 3 times fame) who was one of Jesus' disciples.

@PaulStringini Жыл бұрын

I love John Lennox. He doesn't merely smuggle Jesus in, he climbs the third turnbuckle and elbow drops him in. As it should be.

@PaulStringini Жыл бұрын

Fair enough.

@marlenegura1161 7 ай бұрын

Love how you said that!!!!❤❤❤

@PaulStringini 7 ай бұрын

@@marlenegura1161 Well, I love how you love that! 😄

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"Motivation, reason, and morality need not be based on faith." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum

@PaulStringini 2 ай бұрын

@@BeefT-Sq You mean religion. Not faith. Everyone needs to have faith in something and to be faithful to something. To even value motivation reason or morality is an act of faith. And all faith is not blind faith. But that is how the simple define it.

@noneofyourbusiness9659 5 ай бұрын

It is truly amazing when two humans connect on a certain frequency, and allow the wisdom to flow. This was AMAZING!!! Thank you gentlemen.

@stunns2003 Жыл бұрын

Dr. John Lennox is a “must have” for all the Jordan Peterson Biblical series going forward.

@cpthillbilly Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this beautiful conversation for a long time. I love Prof. John Lennox, although I have never met him. Thank you Dr. Peterson for this gift to humanity.

@trulsrohk1 Жыл бұрын

I remember watching his debate/conversation with Dawkins back in the day, and it seemed pretty clear that Dawkins had been so used to dunking on YEC and strictly fundamentalist believers, that he was completely unprepared and out of his depth when it came to a deeper philosophical discussion

@khaoulalin8792 Жыл бұрын

@verabolton Жыл бұрын

@@khaoulalin8792 Enjoy copy/paste? Do your really have no original thoughts?

@HeraldTheGoodNews Жыл бұрын

@@khaoulalin8792 I can only feel sorry for you

@PBAdventures146 Жыл бұрын

@khaoulalin8792 Jesus wasn't just a great prophet. Logically based on what He said, He claimed to be God in the flesh. He was killed for that claim. He was either a liar and lunatic. Or He was Lord. He could not be just a great prophet based on His own claims... and His resurrection proved His diety.

@Curniar Жыл бұрын

This is the conversation I've been waiting years for. 10 years ago I saw a lecture by John Lennox and it completely changed my way of thinking.

@Willzyx88 Жыл бұрын

Same. Was around 2012 when I discovered Lennox. What a treat this is.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"A man of self-esteem and sovereign conciousness deals with reality, with nature, with an objective universe of facts; he holds his mind as his tool of survival and develops his ability to think". -Nathaniel Branden-1967

@thehopeofgloryinme 2 ай бұрын

John Lennox what a wonderful human! I praise God for him 🙌

@palmgrubbins1505 Жыл бұрын

Dr Lennox is to me what CS Lewis was to him. An inspiration. A shining light. A calm, rational and logical voice amongst so much dogma and aggression. And Jordan (first name basis of course) has a truly remarkable mind. Not only is he a great defender of the faith but a great debator on a magnificently wide range of subjects. It seems to me he is the modern Socrates, constantly challenging our presuppositions and expanding our range of knowledge. I am in awe of both these people, they both give me strength in my life. I am grateful for their existence and gracious participation in this world and I wish them health and happiness and long service to the Lord. Thank you both. Oh, maybe I'm also envious of you both too. I can't discount or ignore that. I haven't the intellect or emotional maturity to fully grasp the enormity of what you are saying. But I want to. And I try. I am knocking and hoping that Jesus is just busy running a bath or making a cup of tea.

@valley5617 11 ай бұрын

Peterson is NOT a defender of the faith if you are talking about Christianity. He is hopelessly lost. Pray for him. By the way, Jesus is not busy and intellect is actually an impediment to people like Peterson. He tries to find the meaning hidden in the scriptures and takes everything as a metaphor instead of seeing the clear meaning of God’s words.

@palmgrubbins1505 11 ай бұрын

Thanks@@valley5617, I am finding intellect an impediment. Not that I'm intelligent by any stretch, but questions keep rearing their head. I personally find people like Peterson impressive and comforting as they commit themselves to Christ despite their propensity to question and interpret everything. Obviously, I don't know Jordan, so cannot comment on his personal relationship with God, but I take something from his insights. I appreciate an unfettered belief in God would solve all of my issues but unfortunately I still at the stage where I am dependent on the wisdom and guidance of others.

@paradoxpoke 10 ай бұрын

What's up brother I don't know your life or situation but in regards to your knocking comment I wanted to say that sometimes when we knock we get answer that we're not expecting and if we're expecting it to be in a certain way it can conceal the answer from us. I think the saying "take one step towards God and he will take two towards you" is true and he knows the heart so if you're asking him and walking in Jesus' teachings with the right intentions and reading the word I would just encourage you to keep going and it's very possible that if you walk the right way- even though it might not feel like much progress you could hit a breakthrough and look back and see how necessary all the seeking was. -- I sent this comment to someone who asked me a question recently asking how to maintain his faith (not that I'm perfect or this amazing teacher or something) and I felt like sharing it to you if it's of any interest- but my bad if I'm making any presumptions. God bless you bro. The comment: "1. Ask God to keep your faith regularly and to grow it 2. Confess doubts and worries and anxieties and also sins to God articulately and feel ok about putting in the open to him 3. It's ok to question your faith but just beware of the lie that pessimism or negativity is the same as truth or realism. Assume God knows something you don't and just try to obey him and do right and spiritually I think things fall into place there. I think asking for God's will to be done and not your own will can be a powerful thing 4. Stay reading God's Word in the bible regularly and consistently- know why you're doing it and dont treat it like a chore, try to understand it and spend time around Christians asking them about it (even online or at church) Philippians 4 " do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. 7 And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus." 1 Peter 5 "Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you. Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world. And after you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you. To him be the dominion forever and ever. Amen." Also 5. Lifestyle has an affect on our mental state tbh: so if you're looking after yourself and obeying God and addressing/confessing sin you're basically taking care of your body which can be a dwelling place for God's Spirit Galatians 5:16 "But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh." Sorry if this is a lot of information but I guess lastly if you're focusing on the most important things are which loving people, loving God, obeying God, being truthful and walking in the Spirit (gal 5:22-23) then things work for themselves and even if things aren't going perfect you'll know you're doing the most important thing. Remember that God does the work in us and it's not our own doing we just have to have the faith and walk forward to receive it so if you feel like you dont have strength just ask God about all of it directly and keep on expressing things to him because he's faithful. Remember God's outcome is always better even if it doesnt seem like it and if God isn't for something it will never flourish in the long run"

@palmgrubbins1505 10 ай бұрын

@@paradoxpoke thanks so much. That's very kind and empathetic. I'm honestly moved by your attention to my post and detailed reaction. I was a militant atheist for a while there but it led only to a world without meaning and hope. While others might be okay with that, or even revel in it, it is a dark existence that takes a different type of faith to sustain. A selfish faith, in my opinion. Thanks again brother. Peace be with you.

@lynetteheitman5118 10 ай бұрын

The Word which is Christ, will send his Holy Spirit to lead you and guide you into all Truth!

@TW_LeftyGolf Жыл бұрын

That final expansion from John about the Lazarus story and how it intertwined with exactly what Jordan experiences in clinical studies on people with phobias was such an amazing correlation. It seems like Jordan does his best to not acknowledge the importance of believing in Christ and the New Testament for a real future salvation and resurrection in the literal sense, but as a literary metaphor for the transformation of the psyche more-so. That final correlation John made with Lazarus and Jordan’s real life work is just soooooo deep almost unbelievable how pertinent and real the story and the meaning is if you actually believe it as a reality and not as a fable. Seems like Jordan deals in the possibilities and potentials of orienting yourself towards the “model” of Christ as like a self help mechanism, but won’t fully accept the faith and put his trust in Christ as God for his own salvation. I say it seems because I don’t know his heart, but I just don’t see him ever enter those deeper waters that John was bringing the conversation towards. Great stuff

@curiousgeorge555 Жыл бұрын

This 👆

@suehamblin9652 Жыл бұрын

Agree!

@soniavadnjal7553 Жыл бұрын

He may accept, one day. Don't forget, CS Lewis was also an atheist, once. Then he became one of Christianity:s greatest defenders (or apologists).

@SojiFro_0 Жыл бұрын

Well said

@TW_LeftyGolf Жыл бұрын

@@soniavadnjal7553 again this is an assumption on my part, but one thing that may be intentional on Jordan’s part is not explicitly saying whether he believes it’s true or not, or whether he considers himself a Christian or not, I know he is very very precise with his words and I think if he came out and said he was a Christian, it would give his detractors an easy out, basically everyone in the media will label him as a religious bigot and be able to hurl large words around at him without having to actually engage his beliefs, they do this all the time. They look for a label to attach to you and then hurl insults at the “group” you belong to. So I think that may be another reason for him not wanting to call himself a Christian, so that people will have to engage with his study of the subject and without being tempted to attack labels or stereotypes they create about “Christian’s”.

@rockyseverino9230 Жыл бұрын

I saw this thumbnail and said, "No way." So excited to listen to these two minds interact And very pleased to see Dr. Lennox is still with us. He's truly a beautiful soul.

@favellaincrecords8684 3 ай бұрын

As an African..born in Zimbabwe, l have always struggled with deep thoughts about Christianity. As a person who accepted Christ in 2017, l have fallen so many times. But above all l have always had a deep voice in me that as someone that not only reads the bible but analyses it to extract its principles and apply it into modern societies. That has propelled me in questioning a lot of things within Christian spheres but l have always thought it was not normal as an Academic also to think so broadly because l find most Christians in Africa, shallow and mislead by shallow leaders. I am happy to see such deep thinkers weaving their careers, experience and love of God in one conversation. I t has pushed me in reading the bible and exposing myself to other philosophers so as to broaden my understanding on Christ, the world and myself as a whole. My friend played this podcast in class at the University of Witwatersrand, in Johannesburg South Africa. Our class is opposite the Hall that has most of Darwin's archeological evidence on Human evolution.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

" An emotion as such tells you nothing about reality, beyond the fact that something makes you feel something. " -Ayn Rand-1974

@evidencephiri842 Ай бұрын

Quite intresting finding a fellow Zimbo in such spaces.

@JohnAlexanderBlog Жыл бұрын

This was certainly a shock. THANK GOD FOR THIS CONVERSATION.

@doc_phil Жыл бұрын

A good one. Couldn’t wait to watch it.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"Imagine the Gideon Bible being replaced by Atlas Shrugged on the hotel nightstand as a source of spiritual inspiration for the weary traveler." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum

@paddy987 Жыл бұрын

I've met John and heard him speak at a christian festival for students in the UK. He was talking about the relationship between science and religion and the wisdom I gained from him that week is still something I think about to this day! Not many people have debated Richard Dawkins successfully - John has a brilliant mind and uses it for much good!

@mickjames7962 9 ай бұрын

It’s amazing isn’t it as ultimately Dawkins isn’t very bright and why he holds the ignorant position he does. A clever fool if ever there was one.

@rhondablack5880 9 ай бұрын

John Lennox is one of the best apologists! I love him and thank God for him. ❤

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"Personally, I think the biggest damage religion inflicts is on how a person thinks. The notion that someone is watching over you at all times has vast implications on inner thought -- problem solving, value choices, assigned importance on different life events, perceived self-efficacy, etc. etc. etc." -Anonymous-from an Objectivist forum

@mariuszadamczyk7766 21 күн бұрын

Both Professor Lennox and Professor Peterson are Godsend to this world. 🌎

@hondablack1 Жыл бұрын

Love the way that Professor Lennox simplifies and describes Dr Peterson's over articulated and convoluted statements, in such a way that he not only unravels Dr Peterson's utterings but answers them in such a way as to allow us mere mortals to understand the issue perfectly. Both question and answer. All hail Professor Lennox. 👍

@dcstegg228 4 ай бұрын

Yes, I feel like we need a translator to even understand some of what Dr. Peterson is saying.

@amoyjoyce1117 2 ай бұрын

@@dcstegg228saying lots that sounds intelligent but totally empty .

@IrishTechnicalThinker Жыл бұрын

This year I got to see Dr Jordan Peterson, Professor John Lennox and Hans Zimmer live. 2023 has been my year. Thank you Jesus.

@SMacCuUladh Жыл бұрын

My financee cheated on me, took my house and moved her new boyfriend in, she won't let me see my step-daughter anymore, my father has been extremely unwell, I lost my job and my uncle just died. Not my year, I'm praying next year will be better.

@IrishTechnicalThinker Жыл бұрын

@@SMacCuUladh Jesus Christ helped me during my horrendous times in the past, had a few girls myself who cheated on me. It's awful, not kids involved though. Though perhaps Jesus he may help you too if you talk to him. He will reveal himself. I'm so sorry to hear about your experience, sounds horrible. As Tolkien said, even darkness must pass and a new day will come, the sun will shine and shine out the clearer. My deepest sympathy to you and I will have you in my prayers tonight. God bless from Ireland.

@SMacCuUladh Жыл бұрын

@@IrishTechnicalThinker I'm in Ireland too! and I talk to God every day. The love of the Lord has been the only thing keeping me half way together through all of this. Thank you so much for your prayers, I really appreciate it. We also got knocked out at the quarter finals (again) in the RWC this year, which was also pretty crappy but the 6Ns will be back soon and we can all foregt about that for another four years, lol. COYBIG!

@IrishTechnicalThinker Жыл бұрын

@@SMacCuUladh No way! That's crazy, I'm up in Belfast and pleasure to meet you albeit online lol yeah, faith is something I lost years ago but found faith again in my mid 20's, always believed in ghosts etc but never considered God. Then found Lennox years ago and he helped me see in the new light. Loved lord of the rings too, never seen the Christian themes running throughout it until older and I read the books all the time. Just like Frodo, when he carrying the ring the longer he carries it the heavier it gets and that's like our trauma in life. We carry it around with us and by all rights it should be destroyed but it's too hard sometimes. I know. Rugby is my favourite sport next to martial arts, we did so well and went out fighting to the death against the best team in the world. 6 nations are great and my partner loves Rugby too, she was a Christian before I met her and a way better one than me but you will find a good a woman again. I'm uploading a video soon to my channel talking about my struggles and how I coped so perhaps stop by sometime and we can definitely talk more. Dia leat mo chara.

@jomai2040 Жыл бұрын

Watching Dr. Lennox, it feels so good to be a Christian. When you see him, you know that he's got your back.

@АлександрГодзиковский-ь1р 2 ай бұрын

Chaos can't create anything. Than'k you Lord for the World so beautiful complicated and yet knowelegable !

@sandyhuffaker8626 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Lennox is an iconic teacher and unequivocal lover of God, truth, and science. He has profoundly impacted my life and exponentially expanded my love for biblical truth. He’s an absolute legend!

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

“Faith” names the method of religion, the essence of its epistemology; and, as the Oxford English Dictionary states, the belief in some “higher unseen power” is the basic content of religion, its distinctive view of reality, its metaphysics. This higher power is not always conceived as a personal God; some religions construe it as an impersonal dimension of some kind. The common denominator is the belief in the supernatural - in some entity, attribute, or force transcending and controlling this world in which we live." -Leonard Peikoff-1986

@forgiven1916 Жыл бұрын

I love John Lennox! Thank you so much for having him on your show!

@mannyphantom709 Жыл бұрын

Lord have mercy, I've been hoping these two would have a conversation. So glad to see them share a dialogue.

@amostake 5 ай бұрын

You can tell Lennox really enjoyed this discussion. The more I hear from this man, the more I enjoy hearing from him.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"It is time to tell people the unvarnished truth: to stand up for man’s mind and this earth, and against any version of mysticism or religion." -Leonard Peikoff-1986

@TruthAboveAll08 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Peterson, Dr. Lennox! Two of the very best men to listen to for these deep matters. I'm so hoping and praying for JP to come to a full relationship with Jesus Christ. It thrills my heart to see you with the brilliant yet humble servant of Jesus, Dr. Lennox. What a joy to listen to the two of you expanding the understanding of your listeners!

@Adam_A_Christian Жыл бұрын

Amen. I'm also praying for Dr. Peterson to fully accept Christ as his Lord and Savior. 🙏

@TruthAboveAll08 11 ай бұрын

Listening to this again, around 37 minutes, the discussion of trans-humanism and Yuval Harari's support of it brings back a startling feeling when I was watching the WEF and he was speaking, the intensity of pure evil washed over me. Just a nagging, intense, nauseating feeling of dread.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

@AndrewLawson-h2t Жыл бұрын

It's so nice to see the obvious joy Dr. Lennox has when listening and conversing with Jordan. This talk is honestly on another level. Two great minds doing their thing and we get to watch it for free. Thank you to you both.

@curiousgeorge555 Жыл бұрын

And you can see that Jordan Person knows he is in the presence of an intellect to reckon with.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"When men abandon reason, they find not only that their emotions cannot guide them, but that they can experience no emotions save one: terror." -Ayn Rand-

@kyralynbusaing0237 10 ай бұрын

John Lennox and JP together in an interview, I never thought it would not happen but it still got me by surprise. Good surprise! John is such a sweetheart, a cute grandpa.

@alexanderolsen425 3 ай бұрын

I have been listening to dr. Jbp for many years now. It still baffles me that he belives in evolution. Its like baby step nr. 1 to a relationship with the true God Jesus Christ of Nazareth to know that he created everything perfect

@coraleefarrell1066 Жыл бұрын

You can really see how much Dr Lennox enjoys this meeting of the minds. He's smiling the whole time. 😊

@TheSouthernorycle Жыл бұрын

Asked for this a year ago but never thought it would happen. Thank you Dr. Peterson and Dr. Lennox. This is pure Awesomesauce.

@whitestoneandy797 Жыл бұрын

Same!!! It's a blessing to see them together!

@doc_phil Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Now for William Lane Craig, right?

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

" He must learn that feelings, emotions are not tools of cognition. " -Ayn Rand-

@lukesullivant Жыл бұрын

As a father of middle-school aged kids, these moments are amongst the very few that I put my foot down and say: "wait, don't walk away....hang in there, don't stop listening..."

@mikeweaver238 22 сағат бұрын

Great discussion. The only thing that I change is that you would leave both of them in the frame at all times. It’s interesting to know the other reactions when one is speaking. JMO

@sethkoertner6107 Жыл бұрын

I'm so thankful for the connection of Lennox to Jordan! He understands and shares the message and meaning of Christs life, death, and resurrection better than almost anyone. I look forward to hearing him join JBP's biblical series as I think he would bring out the thoughts/ideas/insights that I felt the Exodus group seemed to miss at times.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"A philosophical battle is a battle for men's minds, not an attempt to enlist blind followers." -Ayn Rand-

@GodHasCommonsense Жыл бұрын

Oh my God. I have dreamt for this conversation, and thank you JP for honouring my wish. Dr John Lennox is my man

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"Formally, I call it Objectivism, but informally I call it a philosophy for living on earth. You will find an explicit presentation of it in my books, particularly in Atlas Shrugged." -Ayn Rand-

@garythompson1224 11 ай бұрын

I thank Dr Lennox for remaining faithful to the truth of the Bible as God's revelation to us. We know because the Bible tells us so!

@bobbihanson8254 2 ай бұрын

Finding this was like opening a gift....just wonderful!

@ChrisPetrocchi Жыл бұрын

Yes! Finally! I have been waiting for this interview for 5 years. Thank you Jordan for having this brilliant mind on your show

@RossPeterson06 Жыл бұрын

Same. He fills in the gospel and intelligent design / “word-based universe” gap that’s missing in Jordan’s thinking. That’s not to be critical / harsh on Jordan-I love all that he’s contributed and I’m genuinely happy for him to have John step in for that gap.

@ChrisPetrocchi Жыл бұрын

Yeah for sure. I thought Jordan would have an 'aha' moment when John mentioned the Word, semiotics and how God spoke and made the universe and all in it. I mean, that's one of Jordan's big things is the Logos and how he speaks hbitable order out of chaos. Cheers! @@RossPeterson06

@Daedalus1111 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant? Hahaha you have my pity. I know you're not smart enough to understand why you have my pity but maybe one day you will.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"Nothing is given to man automatically, neither knowledge, nor self-confidence, nor inner serenity, nor the right way to use his mind." -Ayn Rand-

@calleOMEGA Жыл бұрын

If only this man knew how much God used him in my faith journey - especially in my early twenties when the 4 horsemen of the atheist onslaught were in overdrive. Thank God my faith has only gotten stronger and deeper. Apologetics, Christian Philosophy, Science, were all apart of that journey, but ultimately the Holy Spirit softened my heart and it is now no longer I who live but Christ who lives in me.

@richardwhite6062 10 ай бұрын

Socrates was my bridge. But JP and others are very useful for reasoning with a secular mind. Throwing scripture at the secular mind is only good once it obtains some rationale of the spirit.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

@@richardwhite6062 "In the 1950s and 60s, Buckley's National Review made a special (and scurrilously dishonest) effort to purge the right of Ayn Rand and her intellectual movement, because her atheism threatened the fusionist agenda--even though she was the most powerful advocate for the morality of capitalism." -Robert Tracinski-

@eliasglaeser Жыл бұрын

Two of my favorite thinkers in a thoughtful, deep discussion. Absolutely amazing! John Lennox is a true shining light for the Christian faith. His whole character and demeanor give us a glimpse of the joy and hope a true belief in Christ has in stock for us.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"Most men never identify the importance of reason to their existence..." -Nathaniel Branden-

@ascheuring1 4 ай бұрын

I’ve struggled immensely with my faith thank you for having Dr Lennox on sir he’s been critical to my return thank you thank you thank you

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

" In fact, reason is man's only faculty for perceiving reality." -Ayn Rand-

@ascheuring1 2 ай бұрын

@@BeefT-Sq we absorb a vitamin from the suns rays and you want me to believe only reason is at work here

@danielfrancis2208 Жыл бұрын

"...Mortal limitation is the price you pay for being." Thanks for a great conversation! John Lennox is one of our best, brightest and jolliest. So glad to see him with JP!

@conantheseptuagenarian3824 Жыл бұрын

if that's the case then God has no being.

@freshbakedclips4659 Жыл бұрын

@@conantheseptuagenarian3824 well He is the Transcendent of course he doesn't need death, yet why does he have to die through Jesus Christ?

@khaoulalin8792 Жыл бұрын

@verabolton Жыл бұрын

@@khaoulalin8792 Mr copy/paste 🙄

@Maranatha-rk7lh Жыл бұрын

"The wages of sin is death. but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

@bdh9904 Жыл бұрын

What a brilliant thinker is John Lennox.

@PaperGrape Жыл бұрын

Truly

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"To choose to think, to identify the facts of reality---to assume the responsibility of judging what is true or false, right or wrong---is man's basic form of self-assertiveness". -Nathaniel Branden-1967

@DerekJFiedler Жыл бұрын

I'm growing to appreciate Dr John Lennox the more I listen to him. Humble yet heroic. His way of describing molecular biology as a linguistic structure is supremely helpful.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"...man must be guided by reason " -Ayn Rand-

@arlinator1 2 ай бұрын

I really want Peterson to interview John many times for public viewing. I honestly think Dr. Peterson could learn alot from Dr. Lennox, not necessarily intellectually but tempermentally. Of my 15 years of watching debates and exploring both sides of the big questions, John lennox comes up top 3. I really wish this could be a mentor mentee relationship. Mainly because God only knows how many years John has left and hopefully Dr. Peterson can carry that immensely bright torch, which isn't either of their flames in the first place. But a light in the darkness. My two blue collar cents, whatever that's worth.

@reallifechangingtruth7679 10 ай бұрын

Greetings, this is Pastor Mike. I have huge respect for both Dr. Peterson and Dr. Lennox. This is a real treat! It's not two people arguing,... it's us learning!!!! One more thing: If one truly looks earnestly into the depth and abyss of truth,... one will find GOD staring overwhelmingly back at them, clothed with the timeless truths of the ages! From Pastor Mike Benjamins, Jr. of Oregon, USA. 1-18-24 at 2:41 P.M. Oregon Time. The Remnant Church Truth Ministry.

@TheChadPad 9 ай бұрын

Well said. God bless your ministry pastor

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"Needless to say, a rational man never distorts or corrupts his own standards and judgment in order to appeal to the irrationality , stupidity or dishonesty of others." -Ayn Rand-

@drp2200 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Peterson thank you for having Dr. Lennox. He is a such a gem and inspires me as a believer.

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"We are still too rational, too this-worldly, and too individualistic to submit to naked tyranny. We are still being protected by the fading remnants of our Enlightenment heritage." -Leonard Peikoff-1986

@cliveandersonjr.8758 Жыл бұрын

John Lennox is everywhere right now! I love it! May God Bless both of these gentlemen! 🙏

@Skashoon 8 ай бұрын

Doctors Peterson and Lenox, I enjoy listening to your views. Admittedly, much of your lexicon exceeds my ability to assimilate your points. Certainly, it is my limitation, yet I truly do desire to comprehend. I find myself pausing often and replaying to glean the pearls you have cast out to us. This precept of science coming from God, as Dr Lenox explained, as opposed to science versus atheism, was the very moment I set about becoming Christian. It was my ‘Aha’ moment. This finally satisfied my scientific bias and connected me to God. It only took me 64 years of life to grasp the connection. That said, the depth of the conversation was brilliant and edifying. I was enlightened by nearly every word the two of you had spoken. It took my understanding to a much higher level - and I’m merely at the halfway point. Wow, this is great, stimulating stuff!

@BeefT-Sq 2 ай бұрын

"Self-esteem is the consequence, expression and reward of a mind fully committed to reason ." -Nathaniel Branden-