Anduin Finds Sylvanas In Maw: Calia Takes Lordaeron - All Cutscenes Tyrande’s SEED |WoW Dragonflight

[@Athelarius]

Previous Chapter: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2KoaHtnjNeHq8k (Sylvanas Punishment) Shadowlands (2022) Cinematics: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2aZdoWPhdOtjcU Hiya Folks! Our first upload of the new update for 9.2.5 is here! This is the epilogue after the epilogue of the ending's ending. This is honestly the favorite part of Shadowlands so far. Despite how messy the expansion got in the middle, this felt like a heartwarming wrap up for Tyrande's story, Anduin & Sylvanas & Calia/Lilian Voss. The new crisp animations for the in-game cutscenes are absolutely beautiful and unique and hope to see it used more going forward like we saw in Sylvanas' Punishment. Now if only we could've gotten the other half of Arthas soul wisp to interact with Jaina & Uther, we'd call it a day! Looking forward to the new World Tree, Shadowform Anduin & Calia's Lightforged Undead army. Hmm. Until next time~!

[@GlitchBytes]

Thank you, Athelarius, for posting these. Really. I love WOW, have loved it for well over 10 years at this point. What they did with the crap SL expansion killed me. I'm such a sucker I still pay for the game yet haven't played it in months now. So, you taking the time to make these videos keeps me in the loop for what I can barely take lol. How sad is that. But yea you are great at this, and thank you for caring SO much about the lore. I wish I had some kind of power and authority to employee YOU as "Loremaster" of this freaking game, so you could advise on all expansions, lore issues since you clearly care 1000000 times more than the people who are making the decisions for this game. Personal thoughts for this game, Would like to see actual resolution and justice for Kael'thas after his twice-retconning.... Also, Sylvanas essentially got a slap on the wrist for genocide which is ridiculous.

[@bapao83]

Sylvannas is not wasting time! She already started doing the maw dailies !

[@Simmlex]

Given Blizz's pace of releasing content, she will be done with that few million elf souls before the next expansion.

[@rushy79]

Anybody doing them damned things deserves their redemption!!

[@Athelarius]

Tyrande: “An eternity of community service with a pet owl. JUSTICE!” That and apparently everyone can hop in and out of the maw for a weekly stroll and have a nice talk among all the tormented souls.

[@ryospeedwagon1456]

Well yeah, she's got quite a lot of rep to grind to go from Hated to Neutral lmao.

[@ashelydian4211]

best comment here lol 😂

[@Emma-if9bf]

"Tyrande receives her seed" Nice to know she and Malfurion are finally becoming parents!

[@JockenN]

I chuckled more than I should have when I read that in the title.

[@Thischickagain]

Wdym finally. They already have kids

[@Emma-if9bf]

@@Thischickagain They have children?

[@thinhvo3893]

@@Emma-if9bf Shandris is their adopted daughter.

[@Emma-if9bf]

@@thinhvo3893 Oh! Honestly, I kind of forgot about her...

[@NatyaVT]

When I let Lilian out of that cage in Lordaeron, I never could've expected just how far she'd go. She is a shining example of what Blizzard *can* do when they put their minds to it, but it feels like, and pardon the pun, for every Lilian Voss there are two Jailers.

[@mckilly1819]

Very very true! It has been something else to come across Lillian and every time we see such growth from her. It's taken its time but anything worth building always does

[@jasperzanovich2504]

There is still the issue that only undead players will know her full story. For alliance players she jsut shows up to the Scarlet Monastery and Scholomance and mocks you for helping her and you have no idea why her hatred against undead is supposed to be bad for you.

[@bartofii]

@@jasperzanovich2504 honestly Voss' story sort of comes out of nowhere post SM/Scholomance for most people. She was a freelance actor outside the factions carving bloody vengeance through Tirisfal and the Plaguelands and then... well... suddenly she's the spokesperson for the Forsaken under Nathanos and the Dark Rangers in terms of relative power/pressence.

[@jasperzanovich2504]

@@bartofii does she make that turn somewhere ingame, is it handled in a novel or just not at all? I saw her in the dungeons and then she was part of the rogues guild during Legion.

[@bartofii]

@@jasperzanovich2504 nope. She goes from freelance Scarlet Crusader Hunter and Necromancer dispatcher... to the Interim speaker for the forsaken with no explanation. The closest you get is the Rogue Order Hall Quest but that isn't an explanation for her resulting position that is treated as an Interim LEADER of the FORSAKEN

[@repthe21st66]

Anduin: *Goes into the Maw to find Sylvanas and talk to her* Also Anduin: I need time to think, sorry Bruh

[@MiraTheWarlock]

I mean it's not like Sylvanas' lacking time

[@BoaDHancock]

Also why does he need to go to Sylvanas for an answer, of all people. I think there are many more better suited people to give him advice. Blizzard trying to squeeze out the last bit of juice out of Sylvanas' character is still transparent.

[@peen2804]

@@BoaDHancock how do you not understand why he went to talk to her given the shit he said. in his mind it probably wouldnt be the best look to hit up greymane or jaina saying hey you know when i was mind controlled n shit i think i liked it not sure lmao. he could instead talk to a person everyone hates, no one trusts, and is trapped in the maw. as well as the painfully obvious reason that hes trying to reconcile with himself after being controlled by seeking counsel from a character that has, gasp you guessed it, also been in a similar situation. hes clearly traumatized from the experience and in a state of shame and self loathing. can speak from personal experience that in those situation speaking to the closest people to you can sometimes be the most difficult. it can be much easier to talk to someone you dont fear the judgment of, or someone who has simply shared a similar experience

[@randyjoe8385]

​@@peen2804 Bruh. Why not go to the dude who spent years taking care of his responsibilities as King until he came of age, who is also a paladin and who was also under Jailor control? Bolvar and he should have years of rapport and Bolvar would actually know how the fuck Anduin feels about the Light not answering him. Sylvanas was willingly serving, until she suddenly wasn't, and hasn't been under anyones control in an in-game decade or something. Meanwhile Bolvar should be struggling with the exact same shit Anduin is, as it's way more recent for him as well. Total missed opportunity for building on that neglected relationship and also reestablish Bolvars role in the Alliance now that he's free. But I guess nothing is as important as getting Sylvanas on screen. Also why the fudge would you ask for advice for how to move on from a person who literally jumped off a cliff because they didn't know how to move on?!

[@SakurinaJessiku]

bahahahahhaa

[@owlamancer]

To think how far Lilian has gone, from a newly raised Forsaken, to this.

[@NatyaVT]

I was about to say that yeah. When I let her out of that cage I never would've expected *this.*

[@luzmaria5006]

Yes, it is shameful how the might has fallen... The Forsaken now are a shadow of what they once was and Lilian is the perfect example of how far they fallen. Gone the forsaken war machine now they are nothing more than a band of worthless misfits.

[@joeyghostx]

@@NatyaVT I think that Lilian Voss will never ever want to repeat her father's mistakes. Especially given her past with the Crusaders.

[@celestialautismo4613]

They grow up so fast 😭

[@beavergoggles]

tears

[@Xgamerwoo]

Is no one gonna mention we finally get to see Khadgar after disappearing at the end of legion? Hearing his subtle voice difference showing that his age is catching up to him is kinda sad

[@Athelarius]

Just hoping he was only visiting and it’s not revealed he’s here because of death. Dadgar has much to do in the future of WoW.

[@davidcosta2244]

He's the only Alliance NPC that most Horde members like, probably.

[@philipje1]

Which is weird, since he is not old at all. He got grey because of lore reasons. Nothing to do with him being old

[@beewo6307]

@@philipje1 Wasnt the lore reason that Medivh or sargeras aged his body? Or did that change somewhere

[@Zquiker]

@@philipje1 he’s a veteran of the orc invasion, even when stormwind was destroyed by orcs, he stayed behind in Outland and closed the dark portal He is old

[@thinhvo3893]

“When Elune needs it, I will soar through Azeroth’s skies once more” basically next expansion.

[@Simmlex]

Trande leaves Ysera turns to leave Elune pats her on the shoulder Elune: Okay, you stayed here enough, GTFO, you silly dragon.

[@thunderborn3231]

@@Simmlex nah a raid has to happen first, then its okay; when the person who could stop it from happening isn't needed anymore

[@silveri7712]

With Sylvanas on her back.

[@brickbarista6998]

damn I don't remember the animations in these in-game cutscenes looking so great. we went from janky half-emotes barely mouthing the words in BfA to *this,* beautiful

[@Athelarius]

Saw it early on with that first cutscene with Anduin holding the line against the jailer, again with the compass scene and ever since Sylvanas punishment these new animations seem to be standard now. Hope so because they are indeed beautiful and breathe new life into each scene.

[@MrBigsmallguy]

Its still pretty jank. Or maybe calia is a ventriloquist who does not need to move her lips to speak. Same thing for everyone else that opens their mouth for 2 seconds while speaking for 30

[@_merkoka6457]

@@MrBigsmallguy OP is talking about the cutscenes animations. what ur referring to are the in game animations.

[@danielpritchard510]

I remember when the legion cinematic came out I was blown away

[@MrBigsmallguy]

Makes sense. Still annoying though

[@jamescarter6468]

I really hate how Arthas was just erased like that. None of my favorite characters got a justified ending.

[@yarnboyjr3909]

boy Arthas been around since lich king. it was time for him to go.

[@kreiyu]

@@yarnboyjr3909 well yeah, but it's the way they did it that was unsatisfying.

[@FragbiteOeXistenz]

They killed the men but not the idea.

[@ymae2395]

I really wanted to see Arthas's Redemption Arc and a future where Arthas gets together with Jaina.

[@tolgakasap2606]

Anduin is still thinks himself as tainted and while doing stuff under jailers influence thinks some of them were his surpressed dark side. On that cinematic he could said something like so this maddening voice is the thing Arthas was struggling with. After all jailer said through anduin spesifically "all who wielded my blade" and Arthas had not just blade also the helm second artifact of the jailer. Even hearing all that Sylvanas shit talked him infront of Uther and Jaina (which Uther probably gotten his split soul back and remembers Arthas is the only thing stopped lich king releasing scourge to world and said this to Jainas face on halls of reflection.)

[@ryanm7654]

Anduin and Sylvanas voice actors do an amazing job considering how bad this expansion has been. They almost convince you this isn’t garbage

[@windchaser12]

Because it's not garbage. Only those who are conceited and see themselves as elitists are garbage. :)

[@Theclownhaslanded]

@@windchaser12 I want the copium you have

[@nathanalexandre9043]

The expansion ain't bad, people are just impatient hmph.

[@PresenceofthePhoenix]

amazing voice actors yes, strong disagree on xpansion perspective.. this xpac lore is incredible

[@Asubatsu]

@@windchaser12 Well, at least you subconsciously understand you have bad taste.

[@mattheron5116]

"Winter Queen gives Tyrande her seed" lmao that timestamp couldn't be named any better

[@jamiehughes5573]

Very saucey indeed

[@rossalbertdelacruz6751]

It could be sus if it was a dude or king

[@MrMcSpiff]

@@rossalbertdelacruz6751 This is WoW. Hit the right server and it's still sus.

[@mattheron5116]

@@rossalbertdelacruz6751 You clearly haven't visited the Lions Pride Inn on Moonguard

[@SuperDuperHappyTime]

I came to post this too

[@JacksonJinn]

It's almost criminal the lost potential of this expansion. Never getting a chance to see Arthas meet his little sister, raised like him under the Light. Never seeing many of our other promised realms of death, like De Otha Side (One dungeon aside.) Never meeting many of our most iconic lost souls, and bringing forth a select few that arguably were not needed. (Kael, buddy, you just weren't on my list. Not like Garrosh.) Never finding Varian or Cairne or any other iconic leaders, particularly those who would have mattered to our classes especially (Imagine meeting Tirion Fordring again playing as a Paladin, canonical Highlord, or a Death Knight getting to meet Arthas one more time!) That's the most frustrating part to me. There were so many characters that mattered to *our* characters... But we never found them. Never got to meet Rheastrasza, that red dragon goblin gal we helped purify and save Wrathion, or tell her that yes, Wrathion is alive and well, a rebellious punk doing more harm than good but still *trying* to be a better prince than his father. Never got to meet... Well. My favourite questline in WoW is a small one, from Darkshire. Where you have to go roaming about this veiled countryside, slaying monstrous Worgen and beating down skeletons, the one monster looming above them all is the vile Mor'Ladim, a skeletal warrior ready to beat down any hapless adventurer. As you journey around, though, you learn the truth; that this undead monstrosity was once a man; Morgan Ladimore. A noble knight of Darkshire, he went to war alongside Uther, and came back to find his family (A wife and kids) missing... told only he'd find them in the nearby cemetery. There, he indeed found tombstones for his wife and two of his children, among many friends and family... And in his grief and rage, lashed out at grave attendants who tried to calm him. Horrified by his murderous lashing out, he drew a dagger on the spot and took his own life... Only to raise from the dead sometime later, a revenant of grief and self-loathing. Yet even in his most monstrous form, Mor'Ladim, he uses both the abilities Enraging Memories, driving him into a frenzy... And *Holy Shock,* a Holy spell for damage, hinting at the good soul buried beneath such trauma and guilt. It is only after knocking the behemoth down we can reveal the truth... That among Darkshire's guards is one Sarah Ladimore, the last child of Morgan, lost and forgotten in the chaos but not dead like her siblings. Knowing that at least one innocent was spared, Morgan gratefully grants us his redeemed sword, the Archeus, and passes on, hoping that the Light is merciful to him for his sins. ...And I never got to meet him to see how his afterlife has been. To know, after so long, that saving his soul back then meant something in the world. Never got something so small, yet so personally meaningful, as to know that this noble knight was spared an eternity of suffering... If anything, he's probably just part of the Bastion anima battery now, and I'd never know. That's what I mean when I say this expansion suffers from lost potential. I never truly expected to see continuation of Rhea or Morgan's stories, they're extremely old tales not every player's even done, or seen. ...But I wish we'd gotten more like that. A lot more than what we got, than watching Tyrande's blood feud or the other dozen or so WC3 era characters getting to show up for spotlight with each other. Anduin's conversation with Sylvanas up here... It's fantastic. Wonderful acting and writing for my standards in this game. But it has nothing to do with my character. Or, really, anyone's but the writers' own. And that's frustrating. I wish we got to matter again. Although if it came down to a choice between not mattering at all and being the center-of-the-universe CHAMPYUN... I don't know. Both kinda suck.

[@medivh1035]

Well, at least l am glad l saw kael thas again.

[@poggamus4330]

blizzard: ehhh too much lore to waste money on...

[@radicalxg8282]

Nah it was better that way of the writers not touching the best of the whole franchise, im at peace they didnt try to use him as last resort emergency break the glass arc bullshit a in an already decaying game

[@EmmaConstableEmma_101__]

Mentioning the other characters we could have met, I was really really hoping for an Anduin and Varian reunion, just one last goodbye between father and son. While they did have that "light-dream" thing in Legion, I think it would have been such a great turning point for both characters. Makes me sad, man.

[@Mechanic1945]

Great memories of darkshire, I think that area was possibly my favourite. Especially the first time I saw stitches in vanilla before they reduced him down from an elite. But the Mor’Ladim bit was always great

[@SalvaBarbus]

You know, I've bashed Shadowlands many times before, but that cinematic between Sylvanas and Anduin was kinda nice.

[@Swamprat44]

Calia: “What if the playe- uh, I mean, the Forsaken don’t think I’m cool?” Important Lore Character: “Look inside. You’ve been cool all along.” Calia: “Yeah, maybe I am cool… maybe I am…” Riveting.

[@hugofernandes3262]

Should have gone Calia: “What if the playe- uh, I mean, the Forsaken don’t think I’m cool?” Important Lore Character: “It's okay, they practically hate everything anyway”

[@vonn4017]

the horde will never accept her

[@Lord_of_the_sixth_house]

@@vonn4017 Nah, as an undead player I'm pretty cool with the entire desolate council, Calia included

[@vonn4017]

@@Lord_of_the_sixth_house you must main an ally

[@Lord_of_the_sixth_house]

@@vonn4017 Or they've done the whole "Horde leader is the bad guy" plot twice now and it's getting old.

[@rodrigoibaceta3938]

At '4:30' Tyrande´s face glitches, giving her an almost crying expression, like she uncharacteristically moved by the gift. It would have been a great scene if she just broke after all that happened

[@Crazdor]

I noticed that, too! I thought it was really fitting, and was a little disappointed when it turned out to just be a glitch lol. Especially after watching the Calia and Lilian scenes, the cutscene technology has come so far, their expressions were fantastic.

[@LegoM12]

Man im kinda angry that we didn't had any interaction between thrall and the other horde leaders with sylvanas since she has been part of the horde for so long and got many of them killed

[@GLUFSAREN]

I'm still unhappy about what they had uther do to arthas and then they didn't do enough with it after.

[@RxsetintedEyes]

What other Horde leaders? Its only Sylvanas. (This is a joke.)

[@LegoM12]

@@RxsetintedEyes truuuuuuu

[@cameronmcewen9666]

@@GLUFSAREN They could’ve had Uther confess to Jaina what he did.

[@Athelarius]

Idk I mean at this rate we keep getting the epilogue to the epilogue of the ending to the actual ending. So we may still get more conversations, like Lor’thermar and Kael’thas. And maybe the other half soul wisp of Arthas that may be resurrected to talk with Jaina.

[@samifranco5541]

i love the forsaken their stories is always one of the best and these cinematic reclaiming lordaeron again is very touching

[@MetalSonicUltraLord]

Maybe with Anduin feeling the way he does, he will have a similar faith as Varian with split personalities and be able to weild shalamayne with both light and maw/void/darkness. Though he split the sword already, it was while he has both the jailers power and the light once he had control.

[@Athelarius]

Actually looking forward to shadow form Anduin like in hearthstone. And the new world tree. And Calia’s lightforged undead army. And Turalyon & Yrel joining forces to launch a great light crusade.

[@tiny99990]

I just realized... After everything Sylvanas did, her punishment, is what the players have been doing for the past two years... ... I doubt Blizzard is self aware enough to realize the players were tortured for 2 years with the Maw, but it is fitting that they inadvertantly made this connection that Sylvanas is just picking up the torch where the players are now finally able to escape that endless torment in the Maw

[@Pesthuf]

Makes sense. Nothing escapes the maw.

[@Isomeria450]

@@Pesthuf Imagine returning to Maw 5 years later only to find Sylvanas still doing dailies there.

[@velmonte8791]

You know, you don't *have* to do the dailies once you're exalted. Just saying.

[@karamelapple8007]

Nah she sucks Glad she gone

[@merikmalhads1676]

Although this timeline is dead to me, I won't turn away from the decent parts still left in it. I know these last glimmers are merely treasured embers in the charcoaled remains of the world I loved but it is still enjoyable to know there is a little flicker left

[@slavislavchev5341]

We shall see what happens with Dragonflight. I would not harbor much hope for the story as is, but I wouldn't write it off as dead quite yet either. Maybe they can still salvage it and make something good, if they're smart about it. Only time will tell.

[@saintysandy]

poetic

[@philipje1]

@@slavislavchev5341 Take a deep huff of copium, Slavi Slavchev. You DO realize what kind of absolute incompetent F-tier development team we're talking about, right? The same development team that replaced the Lich King's crown for a Burgerking crown.

[@happybalint]

i feel the same

[@Banana_Zach]

Nothing is more dangerous than that glimmer of hope. It will seduce you, ensnare you. Until we are nothing more than a battery for a glowy sword.

[@bopo900]

''i suppose i wanted to gaze upon the realm of death before...'' damn we havent seen him for a long time. but it still makes me sad. like he could die any moment.

[@nekoali2]

This scene makes me think that he might. It had the feel of him preparing for one last adventure before passing the title of Guardian to Jaina.

[@117Haseo]

@@nekoali2 The thing is also is Jaina is the only prominent mage character(Thalyssra not counted for obvious reasons) that alive, Rhonin might have been a successor but Blizzard story telling saw to that.

[@3DTyrant]

Is it just me, or does Kadghar sound older and tired since we last saw him back in Legion?

[@Pablochette98]

Great, Khadgar shows up when we least need him.

[@Husker_XIII]

Cut him some slack geeze we might be losing him soon.

[@comet392]

And as usual, the scourge still hasn't annihilated Azeroth.

[@bastalam]

Yep

[@Fightmypala]

Aren’t part of the ebon blade forces are holding them? I remember something in pre patch

[@Fightmypala]

actually never mind, literally the new blood elf questline shows scourage all over the place and in ghostlands

[@comet392]

@@Fightmypala 🤔

[@Fightmypala]

@@comet392 the new blood elf quest line for paladins has you fighting off the scourage and it ends with loth saying if the situation in ghost land is this awful, imagine northrend. Hinting that scourage is indeed in rampage

[@bigbadwoodo]

When taking into consideration how shit everything was this expo, they have managed to salvage the storylines they started in a somewhat decent way and tie it together to the point i found it respectable. Credit where credit is due blizzard... Until your next major screw up

[@yarnboyjr3909]

blizzard gamers always talking about screws ups but be the main oens playing the game 24/7 just stop it

[@Prawnsly]

@@yarnboyjr3909 what a weird and meaningless comment nice work "yarnboy"

[@laoch5658]

two small conversations salvage the storyline? what low expectations you have

[@MultiDarkII]

alright redditor

[@jedidragonking5070]

It's kinda heartwarming how, instead of the term being one of derision, Sylvanas calls Anduin "Little Lion" out of endearment and, maybe, respect now.

[@zom8680]

R34 has ruined her calling him that for me

[@jedidragonking5070]

@@zom8680 I mean, same here honestly, but in this scene it's still very heartwarming. As heartwarming as a formerly genocidal villainess addressing the pure goody good young king can be, anyway.

[@suesommer4399]

Spoiler from the Sylvanas Book (which is really good): She called her brother "Little Lord Sun". Anduin reminded her the whole time of him, which why she called him "Little Lion". This was stated at the end of the book, at the time before Tyrande sent Sylvanas to the Maw.

[@benjones8594]

Pretty sure there's more meaning to it than on the surface. The Windrunners refer to each other as "Little Moon" and variations of this. Sylvanas definitely looks at Anduin as a sort of younger brother, so Little Lion is a nod to that. Of all the shit Shadowlands has been, I really think this is one of the only redeeming qualities - this almost estranged familial bond between Anduin and the Banshee Queen.

[@117Haseo]

@@benjones8594 Its a reference to her only little brother who the sisters called 'Little Lord Sun', the book did alot to help......'build' the 'reasons' for Sylvanus's clown show logic in fighting for the big spikey guy who was involved in making the LK to begin with but you know details.

[@peagames2002]

Not going to lie, Calia's scene was very emotional. Every scene is very emotional. There has been a lot of bad scenes in SL so far, but these are gems among them.

[@chupacabra5644]

Yep. I didn't even bother getting into this expansion in general but these are quite satisfying cinematics I feel the game long deserved. Feel like SL could be like this all along if it weren't for the COVID and you-know-what situation.

[@xavierlavoie9264]

yeah too bad they didn’t do a proper one for garrosh

[@chupacabra5644]

@@xavierlavoie9264 Freal...

[@Athelarius]

The new crisp animations for the in-game cutscenes are absolutely beautiful and unique and hope to see it used more going forward. It’s more refined than the old ones from BFA, but I do miss those cgi ones. Looking forward to the new World Tree, Shadowform Anduin & Calia's Lightforged Undead army. Also who would’ve thought we’d get to see Lilian Voss in the spotlight and in a full cutscene.

[@peagames2002]

@@xavierlavoie9264 this...

[@JI-kc4uh]

«Healing isn’t becoming the best version of you, it’s learning to love the worst version of you. » That’s the motto of this expansion I think

[@jare3959]

I think there were certain themes that were actually handled pretty well. And that was one of them. I don't believe Shadowlands was as bad some say it is.

[@scotchbonnet7]

I feel for Anduin, I get that he is worried about his feelings during his time as the Jailer's right hand man but to be fair, even when doing something you aren't supposed to do or enjoy doing you can still get that flood of adrenaline, the exhilaration is completely normal. Not regretting or feeling remorse for what he had done would make him justified in feeling this way but he clearly does feel guilt/remorse. He needs to set himself straight.

[@mk_gamíng0609]

Anduin is still one of the best written characters in the lore, this remains true to who he is

[@valkyriesardo278]

His present ambivalence and self-doubt seem too contrived to me. Anduin has always had an unerring sense of right and wrong. Blizzard has given him a sudden attack of conscience which he could not have without a fully operational conscience. How ridiculous. "I feel shame and remorse because I did something bad and I feel even more shame and remorse because it felt kinda fun so I might be a terrible person but I"m not sure." And it's supposed to make sense that he seeks advice from an irredeemable villain who has never felt a twinge of conscience before or after her death. He would rely on this female to have concern for his well-being when she is presumably the one who forced him to act against his own free will.

[@Vladd0r]

I just can't wait for Sire Denathrius to return. He was the coolest dude in SL

[@Athelarius]

The best character in Shadowlands. Great design, great VA, such charisma and malevolence and charm. Wish we saw more of him but at least his essence survived in Remornia, his sassy sidekick blade. They made such a good duo.

[@flyingfrog7847]

Yeah right... he was literally a copy of Gaston from Beauty and the Beast except a vampire. Great design my ass

[@VChong1991]

Khadgar: Eventually ill die of old age and be sent here. Might as well check the place 😆

[@longWriter]

My reaction to the first cinematic: "Anduin, the fact that you don't *want* to be the kind of person who takes pleasure in inflicting suffering...speaks volumes about who you actually are. Don't lose sight of that."

[@Eloryan]

Damn true

[@mysteryman7766]

The one character they genuinely didn't fuck up. Anduin has behaved like Anduin throughout this entire expansion aside from when he was under the Jailer's control. Everyone else got their characters butchered, but Anduin has been the same guy he's been since MoP; always looking for the peaceful and diplomatic before aggressive and confrontational.

[@Beamin439]

cringe

[@jakubkotowicz638]

@@mysteryman7766 Definetly, I always found Anduin as one of the most intersting characters since he only remained consisntent, the problem with other characters is that they changed writers all the time so Sylvanas, Tyrande, Malfurion and other were acting too much out of character beeing pretty much butchered, the biggest diffrence is Especially with sylvanass that did complete 180 over course of an expantion which makes it just, confusing and Anoying.

[@stankobarabata2406]

@@mysteryman7766 Remember when people hated on Anduin? I always thought that, despite his literal boyscout personality, he'd turn out okay, because they weren't trying to do a "muh super deep, complex, morally grey" character.

[@DevoutSkeptic]

"The Boy King serves at the Master's table. Three lies will he offer you." - Il'gynoth

[@kittredge5167]

I wonder what that means.

[@Subject_Keter]

"When doe?" "69 expansions ahead!" Usually their whispers only are ahead 1 or 2 expansions.

[@kaboose2034]

"The golden one claims a vacant throne. The crown of light will bring only darkness."

[@DuoSpear]

@@kaboose2034 thats turalyon

[@dukenukemani07]

Thank you for sharing this. This brings closure to the Shadowlands expac (which I feel was poorly implemented) and helps restore my desire to continue onward in World of Warcraft. Thank You. 👏

[@Raxxer1993Q8]

Arthas' dilemma for revenge and justice was brushed off as "sins" and nothing else. At least they could give him some credit for the attempt to drive off the scourge, even though he's done it recklessly and made some dire mistakes, it's the complicity of a character is what makes it great and captivating. I don't like how Blizzard is going with this notion that all characters are "perfect" unless someone controls them to do so.

[@Am0nknight1234]

That's mostly from our viewpoint as the players. To everyone else, he's little more than the guy who slaughtered his people, brought about the downfall of Lordaeron and resurrected those he killed into undeath as slaves to the Scourge. And if that wasn't enough, he would eventually return as the Lich King and threaten all life on Azeroth. Besides, everyone who could bear witness to his struggles and his complexities before his fall either abandoned him at Stratholme or died in Northrend. Nobody is obligated to know or care about Arthas' dilemma. And I quite like that, actually. It makes his fall all the more tragic.

[@federicamacchia1656]

For many players Is not so.....They know Who Arthas really Is and cannot stand the way a char like this has been abused and destroyed......i've seen many endings of many chars in many games,but it's the First Time i see this..a char already gone,picked up again Just for the pleasure to delete It....Try to Imagine Square Enix pick Sephiroth from Lifestream Just to erase It.....This Is Just a suicide step that only a bunch of morons without brain and respect could do....and such are Blizzard,Danuser and Friends,actually

[@fawnieee]

@@federicamacchia1656 Arthas: from the beginning was written as a cocky, short tempered and egotistical character Nostalgia fans: he was perfect and pure and good!!

[@federicamacchia1656]

@@fawnieee dear,no,Arthas was never written as a perfect man...he had some questionable sides of carachter,but he had many good qualities too,and if you truly know his background you surely must know it.What makes his char so interesting and intriguing Is this,how much human he Is,and how Easy Is for many players feel Exactly hiw he feels and ask themselves what would have they done in the same situations.....He has got a tragici story,but he's never been written as a villain,that's why at the end of WotLK everybody mourn him,instead of being Happy for his death

[@happybalint]

When she said "I thought you believed in free will" i laughed out loud hahaha

[@digfidge]

With all the upcoming game play changes it would be nice to get some story line improvements too.

[@ashlyn3213]

i am very happy with them improving the cinematics, most of the expansion had very little expression & their mouths moved out of sync, now there's actual (somewhat) fluid movements & detail and i love it

[@lekrieg8618]

"confuse what you are made to do with what you choose to do" Sylvanas and low level writers pointing the middle finger at upper management and story creators right there.

[@pwpqwq7648]

These cutscenes got so much better over the years. It's almost like they are fully cinematic

[@StormAngelWolf]

Anduin spoke to good then bad sylvans then good again. You could tell the split personality it's disturbing somewhat. Amazing performance in just seconds. The lost souls returning to the seed to make new life. Tyranda/Elune reaction was priceless. The dragon isles might be the new place night elves reseed Tilderssil. Staying the course with the necrolords made me relate with the forsaken. Pretty wired for a Worgen. We accepted the Worgen curse to overcome the plague. Then we help eradicate it and get in return a promise to return back to Gilneas. This is a vendication I am willing to accept. Gilneans will eventually choose renwal over vengeance themselves. As for blizzard, was this redemption for them? I have no idea.

[@MrVlad12340]

Planting new tree on Dragon Isles will be a gargantuan loss for night elves. Leaving Kalimdor AT ALL is a loss. Ashenvale and Hyjal are their homes, now and forever.

[@krel3358]

I think its more in depth that in real life intelligence agencies use torture and trauma to split the mind for the sake of mind control purposes. I can state as a victim of such a program the dilema that Anduin and Sylvanas face is very real as you are forced to do things against your will but it still feels like you are there acting it out like a puppet. It is very hard to describe but it is like the programming shifts your mind until you willfully become what Sylvanas or Anduin were doing. It can be used for all sorts of purposes like covert assassinations, sex slaves, getting people to buy stupid shit they dont need. Convincing you another group of people are your enemy. Mind control is very subtle and horrible to its victims because ultimately after the fact you face a horrible dissonance of not knowing who you are or where your freedom is and you begin to doubt every action or thought. Every negative action you ever took felt like it was your own but it wasnt, yet you are forced to bear the consequences which leaves a stain on you as well as having to deal with the ignorance and judgement of others. I would even ad that when I had an OBE experience in 2012 from government technology killing me and bringing me back to life what I experienced was very similar to what is shown in the warbringers sylvanas cinematic including the black smoke energy and the intense rage. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZ6pZpKLipeqrac kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKXFqGN_hM-JntU kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ_SpKl5hplparc kzbin.info/www/bejne/iofTaKyCm9OgqKc#t=2m7s

[@StormAngelWolf]

@@MrVlad12340 nothing is yet confirmed. We may be called upon to fight a huge war to reclaim the lands lost And return the seed finally and with the help of the aspects to where the tree once stood. Again this is the tree of life for all of azeroth not just the night elves but to all wild life. The dragons themselves go to seeds in aredenwild. Ursoc we lost and he was a great spirit. We were about to lose the green dragon as well. What's the secret of Elune letting her back?: We're there Gilneans souls in that seed I wonder? Gilnean souls as Worgen? They burned in Tilderssil too. They have lupine spirits. Aren't we warewolves?

[@MrVlad12340]

@@StormAngelWolf in lore no worgen died at Teldrassil, night elves allowed them to evacuate first. Game scenario was just coded mistakenly.

[@StormAngelWolf]

@@MrVlad12340 wait what? I can't believe Worgen never faught for Tilderssil not us the Able warriors or other heros. We certainly died defending Gilneas as humans. And not everyone survives to be evacuated. Not in Gilnean lands or at Tilderssil. Many of us did die.

[@Gyratus]

Really annoying to see Arthas still being blamed for something he did not have a choice in doing. Especially now that everyone know that he was being controlled by the Jailer.

[@Nethrezar]

Not exactly. Arthas was corrupted by the Jailer, and the Jailer wanted to exert direct control over Arthas (and Ner'zhul, and Bolvar), but for the most part, Arthas maintained conscious control over himself during the entirety of the story. Simply put, the Jailer couldn't directly control any of his Lich Kings on Azeroth because they were too far away from him, being in a different dimension and whatnot, so that means that, yes, Arthas DOES deserve the blame for everything he did. And honestly, I prefer it this way, because Arthas being in control of his own evil actions makes him a better written villain than just being a mind-controlled puppet of the Jailer.

[@someguy9970]

@@Nethrezar Ok Danuser, but did you forget the whole part about Frostmourne eating Arthas' soul and how he completely changed as a result?

[@Nethrezar]

@@someguy9970 I'm sorry, WHOSE choice was it for Arthas to purge Stratholme? Whose choice was it for Arthas to burn down his own army's ships, then blame/murder the mercenaries he hired to do so? Whose choice was it for Arthas to take up Frostmourne in the first place? Arthas may have lost his soul when he picked up Frostmourne, but all his atrocities after that point were his own conscious decision, soul or not, and I'm sick of people trying to excuse all the evil he did by blaming it all on Zoval.

[@BabCantabri]

@@Nethrezar Stratholme wasn't an evil decision. It was a necessary decision. If the city hadn't been purged then the Scourge would have overrun Arthas' and Uther's force and then spread throughout Lordaeron. The ship burning and blaming of the mercenaries is more along the lines of evil choices, though even then he felt forced into that decision by Uther and his father recalling his forces and trying to stop him avenging/saving his people from Mal'Ganis. His fall can be traced back to when he lost his horse Invincible and was cemented when Uther and Jaina abandoned him. In his mind, only he and his men could save Lordaeron now.

[@federicamacchia1656]

You're right,i'm really Fed up,Danuser hate Arthas and keep using every way to demonize him,as if he should not be a victim Exactly as Sylvanas,except that her regained her free Will,while Arthas never di It....It's an abominium how Blizzard Is spitting on a char that carrierd all the franchise dir si long,while still they're milking his Legacy....disgusting!!!

[@Caady]

20 Years later Nobody had the idea to clean up the blood of Terenas? Lazy personal..

[@TheDovolan]

Its more a sign of respect. The grave you find of the king nearby was erected by the forsaken as a memento to a king they loved.

[@Zenith8924]

I really hope we see Ysera back in the next expansion, she is my favorite of the aspects.

[@Cyanidesin]

I prefer thirst trap Nozdormu.

[@crackedcuore1989]

i think she will make an appearance if only briefly, in the green dragonflight story in the dragon isles

[@JKrolart]

"If Elune wills it" coming from her that's like "If my sis is cool with it"

[@Soma81]

@@Cyanidesin My Dracthyr is named Murozondo. Murozond in Japanese

[@prettypuddin]

I mean .. her statement kinda laid ground for that. She'll be there.

[@AurioDK]

So, Sylvannas gets punished the same way we have been punished, collecting souls. Seems fitting she experiences our agony.

[@WenderPottery]

I love that the undead get their homeland and city back but the night elves get a seed

[@Grubnar]

Where do you think they will plant it?

[@Soma81]

@@Grubnar Sithilus

[@Grubnar]

@@Soma81 Now that would be interesting!

[@WenderPottery]

@@Grubnar I want to say in Gilneas, where the dead drust lookin trre stands...but honestly I'm not sure it matters in the slightest. They will probably give it several xpacs to grow, if they even bring it back up after it's planted, but maybe I'm still salty over gilneas being "plagued out" but undercity Is back to being a ok

[@chriskay1449]

Undead did not get their City back. Undercity is still off limits.

[@GLUFSAREN]

Gotta say the Bolvar and Taelia scene was nice. Wholesome and nice. The rest of them were good too, The lack of Arthas will forever disappoint me though.

[@videopolice432]

Seeing a rescue quest for a town filled with undead and receiving sage advice from a necromancer is... Odd to say the least.

[@nekoali2]

As a Forsaken player from the beginning, I'm glad to see them turn away from the generic evil bad guys they've been becoming since Cataclysm. There was always evil in them, yes. But it was more nuanced than Sylvanas 'Blight everything' led them to be after Wrath of the Lich King. Here is hoping they finally follow through on their constant teasing of rehabilitating the Forsaken...

[@Colancio]

The forsakens are not all evil, most of them were people torn apart by the war, by Arthas and by all the factions, a broken kingdom and people with no place in the world, they are just trying to fit again and reclaim what once it was theirs.

[@francescoporcari8597]

@@Colancio Undeads belong to Shadowlands and there they should be pushed, either willingly or not. They have no right to claim Lordaeron. there's nothing to be rehabilitated. they are the bad guys, they attacked Southshore, and they willingly have slain and turned into undead civilians so to bolster their ranks.

[@littilwood]

Seems fitting that a Menethil would reclaim Lordaeron.

[@Athelarius]

And Derek Proudmoore seems to be her new champion like Nathanos was to Sylvanas. At last, Menethil and Proudmoore together at last!

[@Grubnar]

@@Athelarius That is a good point. I wonder if there will be ... complications. I am sure not everyone will be happy about that.

[@VolkannGul]

I swear Queen gave a "Mokoko Seed " to Tyrande! oh wow

[@serapphine4291]

Lol don't even compare the shithole called "Lost Ark" with WoW.

[@GrandMasterNutBusterYoda]

I think Anduin found it exhilarating because it's the first time since BFA he's experienced some hardcore action and was taking on us, the heroes of Azeroth by himself. We've always been revered and praised as saviors and admired for our strength in battle, so of course he felt some level of excitement from fighting us. I think next Expansion we'll see Anduin in a lot more battles and feel he'll become quite the badass.

[@melamaro3890]

I hope so! I love the pure light baby Anduin but I remember in the vision he was meant to become a badass, and whatever comes next I just want him to be a little less one dimensional without doing a 360 and turning evil. He's my favorite, but he's very lacking in the personality department.

[@ananyamukherjee6944]

@@melamaro3890 which vision ??

[@melamaro3890]

@@ananyamukherjee6944 I don't remember if it was just before legion, but apparently Prophet Velen had a vision in which Anduin led the troops of a massive army, I think it implied there were forces from both Horde and Alliance, against who knows what enemy. Sorry, I have a really bad memory and ADHD, my brain remembers only what it feels like remembering.

[@FolsomC]

Though better than much of WoW's writing, the conversation between Lilian and Calia is dreadfully trite. "So you ran away from the pain," "when I stopped running, I understood," "those people out there ... they're my family now," "We are all the same here, Calia," etc. All such cliches and not compelling at all. The Forsaken, just like the Horde breaking free from the demon blood (sort of, but then following Garrosh), are now Just a Band of Misfits Trying to Make Their Way™. WoW goes too hard on corruption and redemption, poorly balancing between faction-encompassing events and dwelling on leaders... they actually need to work on more individual stories. Flesh out Calia. Don't just have her be sad in the throne room and get a "You belong here with The Misfits" speech.

[@heli0ns]

Yeah I think that interaction was the weakest here. Calia already had this conversation with the Margrave, and then goes on to basically have the same one with Lilian. It would've been much more interesting if Lilian actually brought onto the table the challenge there is going to be in realizing how different the forsaken are from who Calia is/was before & if they can reconcile those two. What they actually said to each other was rather.... use-a-lot-of-words-to-say-nothing feeling.

[@mikfhan]

Forsaken certainly are the sinister part of the Horde, and I hope that never changes. Like for Anduin, domination/necromancy brought them back but even after they regained free will, their minds were infected. Altering their morals, emotions, hell their racial ability is still to Cannibalize a fresh corpse. I hope they never lose their edge.

[@datemasamune2904]

I was honestly expecting Anduin and Sylvanas to kiss. Also, Genn Greymane must be extremely frustrated about Sylvanas’ “punishment”, and the fact that Anduin went to her for advice. Old dog loses again! XD

[@jedidragonking5070]

A part of me was too, and I still think it might happen eventually, even if it's off screen. Sylvanas is stuck in the Maw as penance for her crimes, and Anduin is there because.....he's trying to find himself, I guess? Their paths will probably cross again at some point, and who knows what'll happen.

[@datemasamune2904]

@@jedidragonking5070 I dare Blizzard to do it. Even if there’s backlash, just do it. XD

[@jedidragonking5070]

@@datemasamune2904 Honestly? Same lol. There's a number of characters I could've seen Anduin with in the past, but his former nemesis turned redeemed villain who he has a lot of deep seated chemistry with would be a good option at this point. Better than Taelia who has been so obviously shoe horned in as his love interest.

[@datemasamune2904]

@@jedidragonking5070 Well, other than Taelia, I also assumed Jaina was into him. XD

[@jedidragonking5070]

@@datemasamune2904 Oooh I also shipped those two lol. Anything could happen, really, but at this point Sylvanas and Taelia are the two prime candidates.

[@ebonrose5952]

Love your videos, your channel is my only go to for lore etc. Awesome as always. 💜

[@Cookie0fPower]

Thanks for making this and uploading it. Much appreciated.

[@crowmaster9652]

first four seconds of that bird's face is me wondering if wow has done anything remotely better

[@vladimirtomic9648]

My dear Athelarius, ty for this video as well! Great 1 as always!

[@hoshi314]

Everyone is getting a council left and right...... sheesh i know it's the best path available but holy shit the council for the factions are like everywhere

[@arketsjenkins5016]

like slowly transiting to democracy like the western is doing the world irl.

[@ArnarionArt]

Was I the only one that thought that Khadgar had died of old age, that second Jaina asked him what he did in the Shadowlands?

[@vados8500]

actually he's dead but talking to Jaina he pretends he is still alive and he wants to visit the Shadowlands as a living being like us, instead he was just dead of old age so he was judged by the Arbiter and probably his soul went to Bastion, but we will find this out later

[@GlitchBytes]

Thank you, Athelarius, for posting these. Really. I love WOW, have loved it for well over 10 years at this point. What they did with the crap SL expansion killed me. I'm such a sucker I still pay for the game yet haven't played it in months now. So, you taking the time to make these videos keeps me in the loop for what I can barely take lol. How sad is that. But yea you are great at this, and thank you for caring SO much about the lore. I wish I had some kind of power and authority to employee YOU as "Loremaster" of this freaking game, so you could advise on all expansions, lore issues since you clearly care 1000000 times more than the people who are making the decisions for this game. Personal thoughts for this game, Would like to see actual resolution and justice for Kael'thas after his twice-retconning....see him talk to Lor'themar. Would like to see more from Thrall and the other big names we actually care about..... Also, Sylvanas essentially got a slap on the wrist for genocide which is ridiculous.

[@Athelarius]

Thanks so much. You don’t know how much I wish I could. I love this story, franchise and characters with all my heart as if it were my own. Hurts to see what many storylines have come to but the journey overall has been beautiful. I still believe Warcraft has a future. And even on the big screen if done right.

[@adams4075]

Sylvanas in the Maw. I think in one of the future cuts scenes. Will show why she really went to the Maw. It is my theory she went for Nathanos. (I don't have Shadowlands, so I know if that is already done.)

[@kornmaize7668]

I see they went away from the fish gasping for air look in cinematics, that's nice. Especially for a small indie dev.

[@Fieldofgoats]

I look forward to the boss fight against the Desolate Council when they inevitably betray everyone in at most 1 and a half expansions because they are Horde leaders.

[@TheKobasen]

Where is malfurion in all this madness?? Is he still recovering?

[@Damaardk]

The burden of making a really strong character is that you can’t have him in the story forever. Malfurion single-handedly defeated an entire horde army and almost killed Sylvanas who defeated the lich king. This is why characters like Malfurion, Khadgar, Velen, Illidan and more will hop in and out of storylines as their mere presence in a storyline would greatly impact story telling. Imagine how the strength and knowledge of Malfurion and Velen could have affected the storyline in shadowlands. Its also why they can feel underwhelming. An example would be Jaina and Thrall whose impact on the story was underwhelming because given their power in lore, they really should’ve done more. Its also the reason why Malfurion has a strong connection to the emerald dream, they have to find an in lore way to keep a strong character in check because using his powers would not make sense in the main story or they will have to make him underwhelming as to shine the main villain of the story. Malfurion can change weather based on his mood, this guy created an vortex that sustains an entire zone, and arguably the strongest mortal on Azeroth. The mere presence of established strong characters in a story will beg the question “why aren’t they doing more?” But also their lack of impact or nonexistence in a story line will beg the question, “where are they?” Its a weird paradox that Blizzard is still struggling with.

[@Athelarius]

Taking yet another nap. In bear form. Bear form nap.

[@TheKobasen]

@@Athelarius ah so he's sleeping for real this time and not working in emerald dreams for the time being..

[@lucas9684]

The end of the video make me cry.. like was a loong loong way during those years and now ,it comes to end. hopefully we will see you Athelarius .

[@watching-videos]

Just watched all your cutscenes for Shadowlands and I absolutely love these! Thank you so much for putting it all together. This is the first expansion in which I don't like anything about it. But I still want to know the story because I love the Night Elves. Finally I don't have to miss out on the story just because I'm not playing the game.

[@Athelarius]

Thanks so much. Always love to organize lore over the years for those who’ve missed or those who’d love to catch up. I wish we could’ve gotten more with the Night Elves as well, and was always hoping we’d get to see them in true cgi format like the or a from BFA. And as Always feel free to share with friends!

[@Sam-im5tc]

I hope this won't be the end of Sylvanas. Long has she been one of my favored characters. Even through the desecration of these past two expansions.

[@mrenygma181]

May she finally die and be forgotten.

[@rimiko86]

bye bye sylvanas windrunner, may we meet again in next expansion.

[@efaristi9737]

Calia was raised into undeath by the Light? really, why would the forsakens want to continue to exist? aren't the path to the afterlife open? outside of rotting forever, what futur could they have in the realm of the livings?

[@dropit7694]

The whole concept of death and undeath in WoW just means nothing now. Do mindless undead scourge have free will now like the forsaken? Nobody knows not even the writers.

[@Ztygs]

Well they need to find a way to keep the forsaken. You wouldn't be able to just forcefully race-change all undead players after like 18 years of WoW. Can you imagine the backlash if you race-changed or deleted all undead chars?

[@kreiyu]

i'm pretty sure the pathways to the shadowlands will close after the expansion is over. and like someone else said, they aren't going to end the undead playable race. they could write some in universe explanation, but that's ultimately why the undead will not be leaving the world of the living.

[@bartofii]

@@dropit7694 this... they basically took all the little red herring belief structures in the lore and said "fuck it". Death is turned into a vacation spot currently and no matter how they right off how it gets locked away.... we still have some new recruits from Quel'thalas taking a short trip into undeath cause 'reasons'

[@bopo900]

i gues the same reason we humans want to live, just to experience it. no one wants darkness for ever.

[@johnobrien2055]

Master Apothecary Farranell is a hero that gets far too little mention.

[@Anlushac11]

I think that may be the first time Sylvanas called Anduin "Little Lion" and didn't use it as a insult.

[@vhaleryanadamant1975]

The fact that Calia is not within the Alliance is really bs. I mean she was resurrected by the Light, looks nothing like an undead, she just looks like a pale human with glowing eyes - could definitely just sit amongst the humans and alliance races without feeling "left out".

[@CidVeldoril]

Perhaps, but the Forsaken are the people of Lordaeron. Her people. Broken as they may be, just like the City itself, they are her people and that ruin is her home. I can't fault her for wanting to finally be there again and help make it better.

[@TheDovolan]

I raise you a Derek... raised by death magic, still full intact with glowing eyes... as we learned in shadowlands you can alter the bodies you revive. Not to mention that Calia was revived moments after she died. As the Margrave said, necromancy is necromancy, no matter what battery you use

[@Ghaltouni]

The Alliance betrayed her family

[@bryanreyes3084]

I havnt played wow in years but I still enjoy following the lore

[@DragonflyenAmber]

I admit, I cried at the Winter Queen /Tyrande cut scene, I hope our Nelf toons get a new home soon and that we really do get Gilneas as a usable city.

[@cameronmcewen9666]

Don’t call them “nelfs”! It’s offensive!

[@Gabrielsmessinger]

@@cameronmcewen9666 lol, get over yourself ^^

[@creepcracker]

so if u make a nelf character now , where it spawns ?

[@cameronmcewen9666]

@@Gabrielsmessinger Do you applaud racism?

[@Mediados]

@@cameronmcewen9666 Well Nelf is just as accurate as Belf

[@messler5636]

Damn your tyrande cinematic looks so much better than the one ingame with that crappy ardenweald music, i love your videos man! By the what music begins around 5:10 its so goood! Thanks for the great video, Elune guide your path!

[@blazer168]

So the Nelfs that were raised at Darkshore can rejoin the Alliance now? Doesn't that kind of go against their whole thing and why the Forsaken joined the Horde in the 1st place?

[@Vinity16]

Forsaken has the mentality of choice. When risen they can choose to stay and become part of the Horde, or go their own path. The risen Nelfs always had that choice to go back if they wanted.

[@blazer168]

@@Vinity16 That's not what i'm saying, I'm saying the Alliance never accepted the Forsaken due to them being Undead and thus incompatible with The Light, so they had no choice but to join the Horde. Now you're telling me the Alliance accept Undead among their ranks? I never said the Forsaken never wanted to join the Alliance I'm saying they were literally forsaken by the Light and the Alliance.

[@treetervallhalla4128]

Kinda weird seeing Calia feel uncertainly about the menethil name. Always thought that there were Forsaken who fondly remember King Terenas

[@GRIMHOOD99]

So horde leadership council will have desolate council as a council member. Council within a council will be hell of nightmare for paperwork.

[@crookedsun533]

Thought the same thing. Its getting real messy

[@KanenBlack2412]

It's cool to see sylvannas no longer corrupted like she was, shes actually got alot of respect and care for anduin it feels like

[@evanskan6326]

I started reading the Sylvanas novel a few days ago. I am half way through, the first chapters hit you hard but there is something I only noticed now... The way she calls Anduyn "Little Lion"... it feels the same when she called her little brother "Little Lord Sun".

[@BradlesDLC]

Lillian freaking Voss animated in a cutscene OMFG

[@marijulona]

hey lovely content

[@k4r1os]

Loved it. thanks!

[@Raven-vl9vy]

First cutscene: Anduin seeks comfort in Windrunner's Mommy milkers, while also realizing how fun PvP can be. (Sometimes.) Second Cutscene: Tyrande misses throwing crazy parties with her Sisters, so Mother Shandris Feathermoon chaperones their field trip. Third Cutscene: Breaking News Everyone! Pollution in Loraedon has surpassed that of New York City's water with Mayor Menethil gaining favor. (I really liked the scenes with Voss, she's really underrated.)

[@ryospeedwagon1456]

You forgot about Bolvar having to explain to Taelia why he was gone for 15 years to pick up milk and cigarettes.

[@Raven-vl9vy]

@@ryospeedwagon1456 Pretty sure it was just cigarettes bruv, Bich King duties is a real draaaaaag. Nomsayin' ? ;')

[@monsterdragondeluxe]

Love this! This is pretty good

[@Servant_of_Morgoth]

I wonder what the nathrezim did with denathrius 🤔 he is not dead that is certain

[@kreiyu]

don't know, don't care. done with all the shadowlands nonsense.

[@murungsedihdandepresi.sadn4489]

Merry. 🙏 You are awesome, admin. Such an amazing video. 👍

[@crowmaster9652]

"Winter Queen Gives Tyrande Her Seed" *Rock Eye Brow Raise Vine Boom Sound Effect* thats very sus

[@ryanm7654]

Quitting was the right move

[@primarchxi6639]

I cant wait for Turalyon to lead a crusade to reclaim the Holy Kingdom of Lordaeron!

[@inquisitorwalmarius6650]

just to find it lead by a Menethil XD

[@primarchxi6639]

@@inquisitorwalmarius6650 Undead, Menethil!! It hurts me that Blizz ruined entirely the bloodline of King Terenas but thats how things are!

[@inquisitorwalmarius6650]

@@primarchxi6639 its scary how bad their storytelling have become.

[@primarchxi6639]

@@inquisitorwalmarius6650 The fact alone that they brought forward the last descendant of King Terenas to just screw her entirely, not to mention that stupid light undead or whatever they call it, disgusts me beyond words!!! They could have done sooooo much more with Calia, imao!

[@inquisitorwalmarius6650]

@@primarchxi6639 ever since bfa ive only dabbled in the surface so canr really say what they are thinking, i just feel weird about the Calia thing. But i did also stop due to feeling more and more disconnected with the way the game where going.

[@tktsunami6236]

Khadgar really? Are the Shadowlands now the new tourist resort? Sounds like xD

[@Dracula879]

WoW is getting better and better now. Maybe 10.0 will become next legion! HYPED!

[@KutluMizrak]

Copium, pure uncut copium in this post.

[@Dracula879]

@@KutluMizrak yes, higher on copium then Snoop on weed! My copium is fading tho!

[@Sound_Spark]

whatever you are smoking, pass it around.

[@Dracula879]

@@Sound_Spark Not so much smoking as "mega pint" of red wine!

[@henyourface]

saved med another $15! thanks!

[@pirategoku6238]

Damn guys shadowlands was an interesting journey but I hope to see you friends in dragonflight with cross-faction and take a journey together

[@someguy9970]

Are these bots?

[@pirategoku6238]

@@someguy9970 maybe

[@Irish_Ian17]

For all his power, accomplishments, and victories.. Even Khadgar cant stave off the curse that is time and aging.

[@killy374]

Winter queen gives tyrande her seed. UWU

[@bananapanda9805]

Man I just love WoW lore! Wish the movie wasn’t a flop, would be great to see this in cinematic form

[@shadowkiller6929]

what ever happened to Nathanos? .-.

[@Eloryan]

More erased than Arthas ? lmao

[@willnox1]

Seriously WTF

[@ricardobrands9736]

I already know the expansion after dragonblight. World Of Warcraft 'Sylvanas is back baby' its about sylvanas babysitting Anduin :P

[@erchandixekhewniz1803]

WHERE ARTHAAS! THE DAY HE WAS BORN FORRESTS OF LORDAERON WHISPERED THE NAME ARTHAS! MENETHIL!