Athens vs Sparta (Peloponnesian War explained in 6 minutes)

[@EpimetheusHistory]

If you enjoyed this video, you may enjoy this longer version of it I just made-with more detail of events kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGHdf3qGr8d9b5I

[@bmiltonb]

Excellent work, I'll check out the longer version, too!

[@FaerieQueene517]

@Epimetheus can you make a video about Canaan vs Israel or Israel vs Assyria?

[@FaerieQueene517]

@Epimetheus also can you do Israel vs Judah?

[@rexfury5301]

Dude, do you mind linking your sources?

[@tayobubcuh2406]

Bruh SAAAME🤣🤣

[@MrJH101]

So Sparta can make warriors, but they have to be born as Spartans and the training takes a childhood length to make them. I guess that’s part of why they never became an empire.

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Very True. I believe the whole Spartan system was built to preserve itself and its unique(brutal) way of life. The Peloponnesian war gave Sparta territory many times bigger than Lycurgus ever dreamed the city would control

[@EpimetheusHistory]

...in addition their whole system was designed to weed people out, instead expanding the citizen base...they later would include helot skirmishers and Perioikoi in there ranks...but second-class citizens seldom make great warriors

[@MrJH101]

Epimetheus I agree, and a great and well-illustrated video as usual by the way.

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Thanks! I always have fun finding different ways to draw the maps :)

[@MrJH101]

Panda Bear Athens was a renowned port city that flourished with trade and commerce from all over the Mediterranean. It was natural their wealth and influence would make them recognized as the de facto capital. Sparta couldn’t become the capital of Greece because they were inherently too isolationist to do so.

[@supersaiyankeyblademaster2427]

Assassin's Creed Odyssey brought me here.

[@vlasisapousidis6786]

Super Saiyan Keyblade Master Odyssey is from the Trojan war i think

[@4TheWinQuinn]

Odyssey is confirmed to be the Peloponnesian war

[@vlasisapousidis6786]

4TheWinQuinn Yeah i also checked that but the name Odyssey is just for Trojan war kinda retarded Ubisoft

[@arinball]

and Total War Rome II Wrath of Sparta brought me here too

[@breesway9749]

vlasis apousidis Odyssey is just another word for adventure. Popularized by the Greek story “the odyssey”

[@joanofarc9793]

The eyes of Kosmos saw everything

[@MisterNapalm]

Ted Y they did it

[@buttermybumwipe6127]

They did it all

[@JjJj-ni1ci]

Lol ya

[@bixtheby7191]

Artifact

[@HUKHAN-hr4qs]

@@bixtheby7191 👇👇👇👇 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5iUfoGth6eUeNk

[@manueltubandt638]

After playing a bit of Odyssey, I realized the peloponnesian war was the original red vs blue

[@hefik8689]

@Ahmed G. well, the spartan banner was red, and the athenian banner was blue

[@ΚωνσταντίνοςΠόρο]

@Ahmed G. Yes the blue colour and the owl are the first symbols of Athens. And of course the spartans with the Λ symbol on their shields.. Symbolizes their region name, Lakonia. (Λακωνία).

[@RandomPerson-hd6wr]

@@ΚωνσταντίνοςΠόρο λακεδεμονιους

[@jesuschrist9513]

Who's here not because of AC Odyssey, but because they like Greek mythology and history and love learning about stuff like this. I am, but I have played Odyssey so... it's 50/50

[@gl7146]

the reason I played Odyssey is because I like Greek mythology and history. So yeah, 50/50 too

[@wirizu]

...I am playing Odyssey right now but the reason why I am here is why the Athenians and Spartans are fighting, something I remembered back in high school.

[@bharatsurya9017]

Alrighty, here's your cookie

[@RMLOfficial]

I'm here because KZbin recommended it to me for the millionth time

[@airracer28]

B o t h

[@EpimetheusHistory]

NOTE: At Thermopylae - "suffered major setbacks and defeats, at Thermopylae (were 300 Spartans famously fought to the last man)" There were other Greek allies at Thermopylae, here I am saying that is the battle where the 300 Spartans famously died. Not that there were only 300 men fighting the Persians the whole time... just wanted to clear that up. MISTAKE: In a subtitle at 5:35 I wrote "mid way through the Sicilian campaign"...that is incorrect it was near the beginning...as soon as his ship arrived at Sicily an Athenian ship was waiting for him there to take him back to trial in Athens for sacrilege....on the way back he defected to Sparta....and then he defected to Persia....and then back to Athens. Alcibiades, very interesting fellow

[@immortal6453]

Epimetheus THANK YOU , EVERYONE SHOULD CHECK THIS SPARTA'S REPUTATION IS JUST A CULTIVATED IMAGE

[@gosym7207]

Epimetheus could u please do videos about yemen history

[@marks9127]

There were way more Spartans in reality than we got to see in the movie. I've read an article somewhere that says that at Thermopylae Spartans fought with as many as 3000 men + they had about 5000 men from other states. Yes, the advantage that persians had, was indeed massive, but it wasn't like in the movie.

[@markusjogalantis8009]

They suffer because they were betrayed by ephialtes in hope of receiving by some grace to persians...

[@JoeeeBoyPlays]

In the bening-ging...

[@nikobellic7455]

Who is here because of AC Odyssey?

[@ohhi4050]

Niko Bellic I'm studying up before I play the game, regretted not knowing the history in Origins

[@Eatera]

Me

[@ohhi4050]

HITLER YOUTH CO-ORDINATOR not sure if I want to be your uncle or be you

[@ohhi4050]

HITLER YOUTH CO-ORDINATOR I like to give and take at the same time ;)

[@frostyblade8842]

Me

[@akashbose1562]

"MALAKA" - Kassandra/ Alexios (431 BC)

[@lewisadams5124]

Lol

[@pcnubi998]

Chaire stranger

[@lewisadams5124]

PC NUBI chaire to u to

[@Bigmannick336]

Out child of Hephaestus 🔥

[@TheMacC117]

So that's why Athens got sick in Assassin's Creed Odyssey...

[@lochlanmerkel7144]

From what I understand, your choices end up getting athens sick, a choice you make early one concerning a sick family ends up causing the plague in Athens

[@TheMacC117]

Either that or it happens anyway. Regardless its canon with real history, which makes me feel better, lol.=

[@lochlanmerkel7144]

@@TheMacC117 my choice haunts me because phoibe lives if you dont save the family. But yeah it would go against history

[@lochlanmerkel7144]

@A Big Flash Fan oh ok, i thought the family might have sailed to athens and thats how it ended up spreading

[@ROGALLYWORLD]

Lochlan Merkel i didn’t save the family and phoibe died stop chatting out ur ass cause that family has nothing to do wit the sickness i killed them and it still happened

[@topografer]

I am a greek, seeing this video and the great illustration makes me realise how the greek civilization was always based around the sea. We are definitelly a maritime nation. I mean I knew already but this more than emphasizes it. It also emphasizes how we love to hate each other we greeks. Kudos to all of you people creators and audience for being into this kind of shit, I for one know that history excited the hell out of me, not only greek history but the history of mankind.

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Thanks! Glad you liked it man

[@doomsday1759]

You people are broke now! Rofl.

[@topografer]

Loved it!

[@topografer]

Yea we are kind of broke for now but related to what I say check this out "Greece controls 23.2% of the world's total merchant fleet, making it the largest in the world. Greece is ranked in the top for all kinds of ships, including first for tankers and bulk carriers"

[@zerk1044]

@@topografer i've been to greece and u guys dont work at all.Y'all kinda lazy. But no hate. Just saying the facts.

[@abdolalishafiinejad1864]

I'm a Persian interested in history of ancient times of both my country & Greece really enjoyed of this video description. Love the Greece history & mythology🇬🇷🇮🇷

[@teddyness123]

You are not Persian you are Arab who invaded persia

[@tobiasboston7795]

Ignore these two basement-lifers. Thank you very much for being interested in our culture. Love to the iranian people.

[@10names55]

@@prowaractivist6220 you dog,he is trying to act like a civilized but you bring a 3000 years old savage mind with u

[@warchaos6636]

THIS IS SPARTA !!!

[@Vectorman2X]

Persian people are from the few nations that have values and morals nowdays, greetings from greece

[@angryninja6109]

99% of comments: who is here because of assassins creed odyssey??? 1%: other stuff

[@morimemento8351]

take 20 mintues, dude. I don't mind

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Maybe in the future, if I could do this as a job. Takes a lot of time to make longer...I might experiment by making a longer version using same images less edited there is a lot of other interesting things that would be fun to talk about...but will experiment with that if I get the time

[@MaxHohenstaufen]

longer videos are a two-edged sword: it can add a lot of minutiae but it can also become boring. I think the generally appropriate length for most videos that consist only of an individual talking is about 10 minutes. More than that it generally gets dull.

[@morimemento8351]

sssshhhhhhhhh!

[@thomasraahauge5231]

I really enjoy the brief episodes approach. This may cause some level of simplification and, from time to time, demand some amount of knowledge from the viewer, but all in all, I think it works quite well.

[@kapaderos4983]

the longer the better

[@tripleastacz372]

Don't mind me just preparing for AC Odyssey.

[@seb2750]

So which side did you pick? Did you go for daddy's Sparta?

[@larkisahhh6902]

xDog .SoldieRx what?

[@thanatos1668]

Love ure pick Ezio is the most badass assassins ever imo

[@judithvillalobos9304]

I showed this to my students in my class and they loved it

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Awesome Judith-I am happy your class enjoyed it :)

[@albertcucuteanu4702]

Judith Villalobos you should have played assaassin’s creed odyssey in front of the class

[@scintillam_dei]

Show this too: Epic realistic maps for Age of Empires 2 (and 1): EVROPA kzbin.info/www/bejne/in2pYYF6qqiemrs&ab_channel=SCINTILLAMDEI PACIFIC OCEAN kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmfRcp-wiKhlnNU&ab_channel=SCINTILLAMDEI THE FAR EAST kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ7Qp3eOqahmkLc&ab_channel=SCINTILLAMDEI THE WORLD kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGeohJ-kh86XbZI&ab_channel=SCINTILLAMDEI EURASIA kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKTGdqGJerOHg9E&ab_channel=SCINTILLAMDEI THE ANCIENT WORLD (for the original Age of Empires) kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4rcaWOln9ihoJI&ab_channel=SCINTILLAMDEI

[@TJV83]

No you didn’t

[@symerewoods6442]

Bloods vs Crips back in the day

[@jmdagoon]

Lmao

[@thunderfriez8507]

Lol

[@justanunusualperson8913]

I remember my homie Pericleus taking down some bloods at the isthmus of corinthus. such great times ;(

[@culture4519]

@@justanunusualperson8913on Zeus my φίλος

[@FromNothing]

Nice job, as usual very detailed and straight forward. Interesting to see how Greek rivalry among states is ultimately why they never maintained a large empire for long despite having the military and technology to do so. Also on a different note we uploaded war videos within 24 hours of each other :p

[@ReadThis_]

Very good video indeed, and a veeeery good point from you here. Actually, you would be amazed to know (if you don't know it already), that this has been a basic characteristic of Greeks, throughout the ages, haunting them even today.

[@thothofthemorningrisesWthesun]

It’s exactly why the romans came and took over they were like Spartans on steroids

[@Perrirodan1]

@@thothofthemorningrisesWthesun Infighting is also one the main reason the "Bizantine" Empire fell.

[@thothofthemorningrisesWthesun]

Perridan true, the remains of the European empires got merked by the Islamic empire in 710 though aka the new and improved Persians with an evolved religion lol

[@spiritusIRATUS]

Greeks hate each other more than they hate anyone else. City states fought each other viciously. When Alexander died, his successors destroyed his empire in a matter of decades. The Romans had a cakewalk in Greece with half the states supporting them to kill the other half till there was no one left. The Eastern part of the Roman Empire which was heavily Greek after about 600 AD had so much infighting and intrigue it almost collapsed a dozen times. When the Greeks rebelled against the Ottomans they fought three civil wars even while still on rebellion. The country was split in WWI and almost had another civil war. After WWII ended, when the whole world sought to rebuild itself, Greeks fought a bloody four year civil war amongst themselves. To this day there is this saying: If you lock a dozen people in a room, they'll cooperate to get out. If you lock a dozen Greeks in, most of them will probably figure how to get out, but they never will because they'll fight on about who gets to get out first.

[@MaxHohenstaufen]

Good video man. Simple, straightforward, not very long, but very well explained.

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Thanks Maximilian! Glad you liked it!

[@CWig_99]

This 6 minute video helped me write my essay more than 4 hours of reading various books and articles! Thanks a bunch!

[@jeanrafael873]

I have a feeling this video is because of the upcoming Assassins Creed Odyssey

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

Jean Matos We saw a spartan kick presumably a Athenian into the sea, so yes I think that they want to go there.

[@norisori123]

I know I do 😂

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Which Classical Greek City-state do you prefer? Athens or Sparta...and why? Or would you rather go with Corinth, Thebes, Argos or one of the other allies or neutral states?

[@randisgreen]

Epimetheus I'm a fan of Sparta because they seemed more keen on letting individual city-states rule themselves. But had Athens succeeded in creating a true empire, with a while bunch of political reforms, maybe Greece could have resisted being conquered. Who knows.

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

Epimetheus It's between a City state empire against...Well Sparta, soooo I dunno, pick poison a or b.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

Athens. Sparta is just too Hollywoodified.

[@Artur_M.]

Epimetheus Athens image as a shining beacon of democracy and culture might be a bit idealised/one-sided, but overall I choose Athens anyway.

[@ComradeHellas]

Definitely Sparta they were a proto-Communist state.

[@FlashPointHx]

Nice one ! Digging the music accompaniment ;)

[@unluckyzero6530]

Great quality content video man. How do you not have more subscribers blows my mind. Your videos are very well made and you’re easily one of the top history channels in my opinion. Keep at it and good luck with the future. Hopefully one day this can be a full time job for you. You deserve it

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Thank you! Honored to hear you dig my channel, is very encouraging :)

[@thomasraahauge5231]

Yeah, you tell him! :) :) :)

[@TilopaDruid]

By the gods, you have done well!

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Thanks Mark Roy! ...On a random side note your name made me think of Rob Roy

[@mcld4214]

I was just playing odyssey now all of a sudden youtube recommends this... something going on with KZbin and Facebook

[@DefeatedRoyalist]

Interesting fun fact, the Achaemenid Persians would later once again play the Greeks against each other during the Corinthian War. A pro-Athenian Achaemenid/Greek fleet destroyed the Spartan navy off the coast of Cnidus, temporarily stalemating the war. The Achaemenid fleet then sailed around the Aegean, assaulting Spartan allied forts/ports and further helping Athens fortify its capital. While the Spartans would later build another fleet they would never reach the same naval supremacy again. In fact some historians attribute the start of the war to Persian influence on the anti-Spartan Greeks in order to remove Agesilaus II from Asia Minor after his failing to make any substantial gains in the region. (He seemed to act more as a bandit than a conqueror, never taking any cities, just raiding until stalemating with the regional Achaemenid forces under Pharnabazus.) Just thought I’d mention the above since the Achaemenids tend to get a bad rep from overly biased Greek/Roman sources. Dr. Pierre Briant is a great modern resource on all things Achaemenid for anyone interested in further reading:)

[@cyrusthegreat1893]

Excellent work! Well done! 👍🏻

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Thank you :)

[@mauiaguirre]

This guy Chronologically explained the wars that happened in the first minute. Bless you

[@Vazel]

I'm very amased of how many foreigners I find, who are interested in greek history , calture, mythology etc. Χαιρετίσματα από την Κύπρο❤

[@nicosimioni7363]

I went to Greece to live there just because of the love I have for your culture and history! Especially that of Alexander. I moved to Thessaloniki because I specifically wanted to live in Macedonia (the real one, of course, not that fake and ridiculous attempt of a country that is Vardarska, or West Bulgaria, as I like to call it) and put my feet in the same land Alexander did. Those were some amazing times, and I'm going back there as soon as I can, and perhaps I'd be able to visit Cyprus as well! I only saw it from inside the plane, because we did a stop there, but we weren't allowed to get out, because it was just an hour stop, but at least I got to see the shores from above, and the hills in the distance from the Larnaka airport. Greetings from Argentina! 🇦🇷🇬🇷

[@Vazel]

@@nicosimioni7363 It's been a long time since I smiled that much before. I'm so glad that you feel this way 🙂 You made my day! And you are very welcomed here in Cyprus, people are friendly and very welcoming here🙂

[@theodorospadelidis6537]

@@Vazel i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account

[@Americanpatriot-zo2tk]

Thank you for the video it was well done

[@notsoprogaming9789]

300 spartans and a few thousand other greeks

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Just like how the US of A won world war two all by it self...cough cough and a couple Ruskies...and some Anglo types...and a few people from their colonies....But as I was saying the USA really did go show those Euro-types a thing or two about freedom all on their own... Well all kidding aside I just oversimplified it to mention the last stand after they sent the allies away on the last day to speed up the pre-Peloponnesian war recap :)

[@notsoprogaming9789]

I get that, just wanted to point it out to anybody who didnt know

[@thomasraahauge5231]

If we ask the Spartans themselves, it was indeed 300 Spartans, receiving some aid from a few thousand other Greeks :-D

[@Miquelalalaa]

Epimetheus Lol. Without the USA Russia could have won the war all by itself

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Jara above is highly sarcastic...was attempting of making fun of many US history books that promote a narrative that the US was the main force that beat the 3rd reich. I Don't think the Russian could have done it all on there own, but they did far more than anyone else.

[@thehighguarduk4820]

Fantastic video! By far the best video of this topic I have seen, very well explained and illustrated. Very well done!

[@CaptainHaddocck]

In fact it wasn't "only" 300 spartans that fought, but also thousands of other Greeks.

[@campkira]

well yeah..... but it 4,000 years ago...

[@saeedvazirian]

Yeah it was a massive orgy interrupted by Persians.

[@MenacedAssassin]

@Jonathan Ortiz Not everyone was sent back, sources claim that 1,000 to 1,500 Greeks fought at Thermopylae

[@saeedvazirian]

@Giannis Stathakis The Persians decisively defeated the 300 Spartans that conveniently had 10,000 other weak Greeks with them. The Persians won.

[@saeedvazirian]

@Giannis Stathakis Yes I'm sure if you get your facts from a movie maybe, otherwise 15000 Persians in 3 days is an impossible number. Firstly there were 10,000 Greeks there and they were all annihilated, their king killed on the second day. The Persians lost 3 to 7000 soldiers at most but they did beat the Greeks in their own homes, on rough terrain. The Persians won. But I think that will always anger you, hahahahaha!

[@yanashmitova7322]

You helped me get through my homework ANNNNND now I understand about this war! Thank you

[@Linfamy]

Having the map in the video helps ground you through all the information =)

[@jacksoncaverswall2796]

great help with my history assignment! thanks heaps mate 🤙🏽

[@Sm00th-0p3rAt0r]

Nice job. I'm getting flashbacks from my 6th grade history classes. It's sad that the young generations these days don't have a clue even about the modern, much less the ancient history. Cover the Slavs settling in southern Europe and the Balkan peninsula when you get a chance, and the spread of the Christianity, after the fall Rome.

[@Στέφανος-ω6γ]

I am from Greece and I am proud of you because you taking care about Greece history thank you man!

[@michaelgoldband34]

My hamster was making loud noises and it sounded like he was saying Sparta vs Athens what a coincidence

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Haha...that's awesome!

[@thomasraahauge5231]

My daughter has two guinea pigs, and when they hear her footsteps on the stairs, they go "weeeeeed weeeeeeed weeeeeed" as if they know what she has been picking for them :-D (no, not smoking weed - the green growing stuff like dandylions, clovers, and plain grass)

My balls do that when i run! Wow, eh? LOL!

[@scintillam_dei]

I saw a hamster once. It looked demonic.

[@scintillam_dei]

@ That means you haven't reached puberty since you lack pubes to cushion the impacts.

[@nienkeh301]

super useful video! i have a test coming up in a couple of hours, this helped so much

[@cyrusthagreat6649]

One thing you got wrong: Alcibiades never commanded the Sicilian Expedition. He was supposed to, but got fucked over by political enemies and thus took exile in Sparta before returning to Athens.

[@thebegottenwarrior3956]

Its about to be my second quarter exam and i was trying to find a less boring way to learn and this showed up thanks alot

[@Lo-tf6qt]

Rome 2 Advisor : Athens has went on to form an *Empire* after the Greco Persian War. Mongols : Hold my beer

[@marisaelenenadiejamusiccom3974]

Thank you for the fantastic video!

[@thomasraahauge5231]

Enlighting, thoughtful, and well composed, as always. Thank you :)

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Thanks!

[@thomasraahauge5231]

You are most welcome. I stumbled upon your channel by chance, and now, I am slowly working my way through it :)

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Awesome! Glad you found my channel :)

[@thomasraahauge5231]

Well, so am I. I have been plowing my way through Lindybeige, and entertaining as the man is, he doesn't deal much with Antiquety - appart from Ancient Rome, which happens to be my favorite subject. Understanding the rise and fall of Rome, however, is not possible, if you don't take the time to deal with the rest of Antiquety :)

[@hazzmati]

Lindy is an british nationalist who thinks anything non-british is inferior and a has a skewed perspective of history. He would never admit anything bad about Britain's past

[@danielbrissenden2555]

Oh, I wish you were around twenty years ago when I read all the histories! Thank you for this great refresher! Well done!

[@emperordemetrius3832]

Nice! Can you do a video on Philip's rise to power?

[@OBZRV82]

Your videos are dope I kinda wish they were a bit longer. 😅

[@MrIAmAwesoome]

Watching this vid while my AC Odyssey is on pause with the theme song playing in the background feels so epic. Damn I love that game xD

[@ByzantineCapitalManagement]

If only they hadn't fought if Athens would have kept a lid on its irrational ambition.

[@chriskw4362]

Remember my friend there was no Greece or any "country" back then! Only tribes and then empires! The Greeks have this thing were when they are apart they kill each other but if you dare interrupt them you are done!

[@ByzantineCapitalManagement]

Mr Luteceo They did start out as a Tribe But They Formed a City State First and Then Directly Formed (I won't say empire) Leagues and Confederations.

[@bagiee1]

The war Happened not because of Athens irrational ambition, but because Athens had a Democracy.... and this didnt sit well with the Oligarchic City States like Sparta. That was the main Reason, of the war...to bring down Democracy.

[@bagiee1]

Things were not like you imagine them to be. Sure they knew what was happening around the known world. (Specially inside the Greek world) They knew pretty well. The world didnt start communicate only when the internet came out. The internet just made information instant. Many cities followed the example of Athens because Athens was doing pretty well in Democracy. Sparta feared that many others would follow, and they would be isolated from the others, and also it would influence their own way of life too. Democracy had got to go...for the Oligarchs. The war on Democracy is still happening today, from the Oligarchs. They keep feeding people misinformation about Democracy, telling them thats its a non-efficient form of government, because the majority rule over the minority, and that the 2 wolves will eat the one sheep...and stuff like that, which are far from truth and dont depict Democracy in its real Form.

[@christtwitch4013]

Democracy is a failing idea. Nothing good can come out of democracy because true democracy will never be achieved democracy is just an oligarchy in which the masses believe they are the ones that decide where in reality they don’t decide anything. Like an oligarchy but with a mask. The mask of ignorance that’s what it’s about even today

[@stevengreen11]

I love how you detail the military strategy. Very cool.

[@Rimchy]

This dude predicted assassin’s creed odyssey :O

[@NW1_1]

Dumbass this is real war

[@ItzravangerTheFirst]

@@NW1_1 i think u just got r/wooosh big time

[@HellenicRambo]

Good work

[@GrigRP]

Just in time for AC Odessy ;)

[@GrigRP]

ILuvAnimeDoYouAlsoAnime ' why?

[@tambal40]

SirSef ' Ayy there were amazons

[@MrStressedOut]

@Jokeren V Bet you feel like a dumbass now. Good. You should.

[@SarisTX]

How did you draw those hoplites, they are really well done

[@danielgilhooly1118]

Being Irish I'm just reminded of the intercounty rivals there are in our country. Dublin reminds me of Athens, being a port city and having a false sense of superiority over the other counties but were all Irish

[@jaads7910]

Very informative

[@fawaz2771]

True assassin creed OD fans watching this video🙂...... Nice job amazing video🌷

[@oceiros_lordxiv3536]

You already know

[@elmeramuro]

Top notch stuff.

[@Max-xs8dv]

One problem with the Spartans was that it was not only 300 Spartans who guarded that pass and they weren't even the bravest ones there-- that was another group of Greeks-- but since the Spartans led, they got to tell the story. In addition, Sparta could never succeed in that it was a slave state. AKA Sparta you played yourself

[@thomasraahauge5231]

During Antiquety, slavery was so common, and so widespread, that it was largely considered the natural way of life. Sparta was no exception, but to claim that slavery brought down Sparta is incorrect, and over-simplifying numerous factors. The Spartan way of life was based on the citizenship of the free men who owned their own land. They were wealthy enough to pay for the highly expensive equipment, they employed a small staff of servants and slaves (supervised by the wife, who was de facto the ruler of the household), so they could spend their time on training, manouvering, and warfare. In order to provide as much manpower as possible, the farms were supposed to be as small as possible, but still wealthy enough to allow the citizen to spend most of his time in the army. If the farms grew bigger, the available manpower would be reduced. This did indeed happen, as some farmers became landlords, hoarding ever-increasing areas of land, thus pushing other farmers into servitute. Servants were not accepted in the army (unless the need for manpower was absolutely desperate, and these "lesser citizens" were not allowed to become hoplites). Over time, the number of hoplites decreased, and the single most devastating cause was: greed. To worsen matters, much needed manpower was lost as casualties or wasted as garrisons in conquered provinces. The declining commerce that Sparta could profit from, also restrained Sparta severly, and the import of cheap grain from Egypt and Anatolia bankrupted numerous farmers, thus further depleting the ranks of hoplites. Slavery had littie, if anything, to do with this.

[@Max-xs8dv]

I think the economic opportunity was the decline I was referring to. Without the slaves maintaining the capacity to act as citizens and bring innovation, Sparta was hurt massively. Indeed, this one one of the reasons a navy in Sparta could never have happened. Although geography was probably the biggest decider there

[@basilofgoodwishes4138]

Slave trade was common, but not the backbone to every ancient Society, Mesopotima and Egypt were both based on Agriculture rather than slavery, yet they lasted longer than Rome.

[@thomasraahauge5231]

The history of Mesopotamia is an ongoing tale of conquerors becoming the conquered, shifting alliances, rise and fall of large and smaller empires and kingdoms, wealth and poverty, and dozens of other factors. In some Mesopotamian cultures, the life of the average peasant was almost pleasant, and in other cultures, the life of a peasant bordered slavery. There were slaves in just about all cities in just about all eras. Sometimes a few slaves held as status symbol, other times, slavery would make up a substantial part of the economy. Some Mesopotamian empires or cultures flared up for a short moment and was washed away only decades later. Others lasted for centuries. Egypt was (and is) blessed with the Nile that innundates the soil, and the land was so fertile, that there was no incentive for slavery. Furthermore, Egypt was protected by impassable desserts and rugged mountains on three sides. As glorious as Egypt grew, they focused on the afterlife more than the earthly life.

[@SpeCiiaLAssAss1N13]

Max Bernickus 3OO spartans and 1OOO arcadians

[@jimb8830]

Concise and so informative. Odd...I woke up this morning with the thought of 'Peloponesian' Hmm...Unknown why, but I'm very please with this video's presentation. Very well done. Thank you (in 2024).

[@pyrrhusthegreat2103]

A well documented video, and I enjoyed it very much. However, the very capable general Alcibiades was indeed assigned the general command of the Athenian invasion force of Syracuse, but at the last second, he was held back for trial in political affairs. Other generals took his place

[@pallhe]

Great video. Perhaps the narrator could use a little more variety in his intonation, although I did get used to it after a while.

[@randomnickify]

Soo basically I'm helping Athens in next AC;)

[@bagiee1]

Same here:)

[@the_dropbear4392]

Which will do nothing as they lost

[@randomnickify]

@@the_dropbear4392 yes, but entire point of this game is changing history ;)

[@the_dropbear4392]

@@randomnickify Not really, you are fighting a none existent cult, not changing a relationship historical event

[@buck5021]

I helped Sparta and I won every conquest battles of every region except for Attika

[@bakedbeatslofi9016]

Another amazing video from Epimetheus! I actually recently uploaded my own summary video of the Athens vs Sparta conflict causes!

[@farhanatashiga3721]

I would like it if you Made a video about Nader Shah because I'm interested to learn about him but do not have the passion to read countless pages of Wikipedia.

[@EpimetheusHistory]

Nader Shah was a pretty unique dude, Great suggestion

[@smmndst9315]

Farhan Tbm Aka “ Napoleon of the middle east”

[@davidandreicostin160]

interesting ! I have a question what is the name of the song in the background?

[@mcteixz000]

can you please make a video about Portugal's history since ancient times?

[@Kavilion]

Great stuff

[@PM-fb3vm]

The Delian League was the "NATO" of its time. Except it had wooden ships, instead of jet planes and bombers. That is the modern comparison. And in the end, like the Delian League which was created to hold back or destroy Persia, Persia outlived the Delian League. The mistake the Delian League made was attacking "Syracuse" on the Island of "Sicily. which had about the same amount of ships Athens had, if not More. A fitting end to A league that basically told people "Join us", Athenian Masters of the Delian League: ""serve us by contributing ships or taxes. If you don't want to pay taxes, we will round up your people, sell them into slavery and burn your town to the ground. If you can't pay, we will work you to death until you die for our betterment """. Sound familiar people? History is not that different, even if its been 3000 years almost. Instead of Wooden ships, we do it with Stealth planes. In the end the result is always the same, the Organization dies and the very thing it was created to destroy thrives. Persia became "Afghanistan" and "Iran" You welcome for the quick historical comparative and synopsis of why Leagues and organizations of War never work.

[@RSMVreviewer]

This is such a narrow way of viewing it. Where do you get your information, CNN? LMAO

[@gkrik8827]

Very nice explaned

[@TheJenniferKK]

Hey! Could you do a video about the transition from Greek city state mortal enemies to a unified (modern) Greece? It seems like today they are SO unified in identity and SO loyal to their country. In France, Holland and many other countries, many people identify with their region rather than their country, but Greece really seems to have pulled off absolute unification of a very large group of small divided nations. I wonder how. Thanks!

[@seauryakumar]

It still surprises me that we have details of historical events that happened thousands of years ago. That is why History is awesome

[@uhhziggy4597]

Who else is here for assassins creed?

[@AliMohamed-qz6qf]

Uhh Ziggy me

[@HO-os8ry]

Had to cause the sjws at Ubisoft left out so many things .. like history his time around cause white ppl bad according to they new agenda and don't wish to use real culture but instead push they tiny limited view of it so they can look woke.

[@user-xk5ft2dy3x]

H2O lmao hurrrttttt

[@triggeredravioli]

@@HO-os8ry AC Odyssey has a lot of SJW problems, but the part about Peloponnesian War is not.

[@HO-os8ry]

@@triggeredravioli the history part I was talking bout were the pop ups the left out for find buildings people and places this time around

[@breeleigh903]

trying to sum up an entire uni course has brought me here before exams

[@samwhofell]

LOOOL SAME

[@eminyildiz9948]

Assassin creed Odyssey bring me her

[@milk1178]

Thanks, helped me with my homework.

[@lukezuzga6460]

Good job, would have listened for another 6 min.

[@cppers5784]

1600th comment less goo BTW nice vid.

[@cruzd3313]

Yup I did it. I have officially conquered all of Greece in assassins creed odyssey. Its all Sparta now.

[@danielsantos6437]

Just play Crusader Kings 2 and use a timeline mod that let's you play earlier. Or play Euiv and conquer the world (if you can)

[@ChrisSum.]

Ultimate Gigachad

[@ezequielsanchez5722]

Love the visuals

[@timurthelamest5630]

Actually the Persians were victorious at Thermopylae and Artemisium, that is how they occupied all of mainland Greece except the Peloponnese.

[@a.u.t.057]

10/10 would recommend to watch this really interesting video

[@Restrocket]

Don't you think that this conflict is a great metaphor for the Cold war. Athens = USA a democratic maritime power. Sparta = USSR an army with a state.

[@robinronnback5147]

Only in the the Cold War the Soviet Union broke into pieces while the USA came out on top. If I remember my history lessons, then Sparta won against Athens.

[@Restrocket]

@@robinronnback5147 That doesnt matter former third world nation (Macedonia) came in and annexed both of them as small border counties.

[@aneesh2115]

Well both are wrong

[@das96bna]

@@Restrocket kingdom of macedonia#modern macedonia smh.

[@sayckeone]

Restrocket No, not at all.

[@marion_roberts]

So I just installed Assassin's Creed Odyssey on my PC and I thought, "You know what? A youtube video describing this game's setting would be a fantastic primer." Lo and behold, Here it is. Thank you for this, sir.

[@achillesreborn8092]

If I had a son I would call him Sparta, so every time I had to introduce him I would say: THIS IS SPARTA!!!

[@sultanimperious]

Name ur daughter that so eventually u can guard the hotgates from invading forces

[@RSMVreviewer]

poor bastard would get teased and bullied everyday just cos his bum of a father wanted to make a gimmick joke KEKW

[@badihkino8555]

whats the backround music plz

[@kenkat3688]

Its Ironic that Sparta and Persia also had an alliance somewhere around this time

[@crystalkittycat8517]

I’m here from Ac oddesy. But great video, I came here because I was amazed by how this war was just so..like.... I don’t know how to explain..

[@koreanspeed2217]

Damn I already knew like 50% of this from AC Odyssey and 50% from world history.

[@BallisticBrute]

What's the name of the melody in the background?

[@thucydides7849]

Once you actually spend time Learning about these things you realize how hard it must be to make a short ass video on it

[@sophiej5307]

Hi, could you by any chance list to me all the videos you have made about the Greeks, in chronological order. That would be great, thank you so much for these, it is much appreciated xx

[@sophiej5307]

Do you happen to have a video on the wars between the Greeks and Persians, and the conquest of Alexander the Great

[@chasemanhart]

Yes, AC Odyssey has sparked my interest in Ancient Greece once again!

[@saints3824]

im about to start AC Odyssey. i hope i have as much fun as you did

[@aziza.majeed4852]

amazing video. please make one about romans

[@sparky-xz1nb]

You know it's sad. If the two had combined forces permanently they probably would have been successful in world domination. Spartans the bronzes, Athens the brains. It would make sense. Imagine what Sparta would have made when when tanks were introduce to the world. Or the battle formations. The Athenians creations for the world war. Their strategies. It would be like ants. The Athenians would be like the queen ant. Greeks that aren't Athenians or Spartans would be like the worker ants. Spartans would be like soldier ants. All working together for the colony. Working as one. God that would be beautiful to see humans work in that way. But that's unlikely. Maybe in a 1000 years but probably never in our life time sadly. Unless a hive mind forms. Which would actually be terrible because that would remove free will. But people willingly working together for the betterment of the world as one would be beautiful to see.

[@josephweymon8020]

What is the name of that background music? 🔥🔥🔥

[@aziza.majeed4852]

spartan worst defeat was at the battle of leuktera against Thebes

[@kapaderos4983]

they very well deserved it and much worse from the beginning fucking puppets

[@georgehaveles8511]

It was actually the only defeat for the Spartan army during the war ( i mean at land , at sea it is a completely different story)

[@Kypris_]

@@georgehaveles8511 Well yeah because Sparts specialize in ground combatand Athenians in Navy combat

[@buck5021]

Yeah it was one of the worst defeats in history... There were 10,000 Spartans and they were defeated by 5,000-6,000 Thebans...what a shame

[@georgehaveles8511]

@@buck5021 To be 100 % accuraate , the Thebans were 5,000-6,000 as you said BUT , the Spartan force had 10,000 people from the general region of Lakonia (lakedaidaimona) from those , only 700-1000 were people from the town of Sparta. Those numbers are from wikipedia.In English there is translation only for the general numbers , but in Greek (i am Greek myself) it has more details.

[@TheTariqibnziyad]

Great vid !!!