Atomic AmpliFire Cabinet Comparison - Regular Amp vs Speaker Cab vs FRFR Cab

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Lee and Pete compare how the Atomic AmpliFire sounds with the Victory V30, the Yamaha DXR12 Speaker and the Atomic CLR active wedge. The CLR cab used in this video is the regular active CLR wedge (not the NEO one).
We mic'ed the room up with 2 Rode NT5's and a Rode NTR to capture the sound in the room the best possible way.
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For more info on the Yamaha DXR12 speaker click here - goo.gl/poFnyO
It should be noted that the Friedman HBE model is matched to a 4x12 cab emulation, whereas the Deluxe & Rumble amp models are matched to 1x12 cab emulations. That's essentially why there was such a big difference between the Amplifire through the Victory amp (which is using a 1x12), and the Yamaha & CLR cabs where the 4x12 cab emulation was being applied. If we'd been running the Victory V30 in to a 4x12 I'm sure the difference in sound would have been less apparent.
And to watch the rest of the AmpliFire videos we've made go here - kzbin.info...

[@SuperBriansmoke]

Great review. I bought an Amplifire the week they became available in the UK, and I've been consistently blown away by what it can do. I've gigged it, into a front of house PA, and coming back to my feet through a Mackie SRM350 v3 10 inch powered wedge. I''ve also been using it at home, direct into a 15 inch Wharfedale powered wedge, in mono, and in stereo into the Mackie and the Wharfedale. The Mackie has a load of clever digital stuff going on to make it sound amazing and bigger than it actually is. The Wharfedale is a more old-school massive speaker and tweeter combination, which sound really full and sweet. It's the first modeller I've used, which actually gives you a natural amp-playing experience, with touch sensitivity, and a real sense of physical feedback from your hands to your ears. One of the first things I did with it was to plug it into the PA we use in the band. I'd upgraded to this from a Line6 HD500x, and it blows the POD away completely in it's feel and sound. I haven't played a Helix, a Kemper or an Axe FX, but with the Live sound I get from the Amplifier, I have no intention of getting anything more expensive. Our sound guy had his mind blown by it as well.

[@Stephen_Lafferty]

The very review that I wanted - the Amplifire in to its matched wedge FRFR speaker cabinet! Thank you!

[@andertons]

+Stephen Lafferty Glad we could help out. Thanks for watching.

[@aviator_bryan]

Great demo! Love Danish Pete’s playing, and that 335 tone is to die for. Fantastic!

[@BrandonNevermind]

I am so jealous of Leonardo DiCaprio's 335! ;)

[@DAVEBLISS2007]

The Atomic CLR powered cab is the best sound IMO. Large amount of bottom end from a 1 x 12 in the CLR . Great demo thanks. I would like to hear this with Matrix amp and their Neo light speakers.

[@ktulu193]

Great review and awesome playing Danish Pete! I was a bit surprised that I liked the sound of the Amplifire cab with the first 2 presets. The HBE through the V30 power section sounded better than the Amplifire cab, IMO. I guess the EQ on the Amplifire cab can make it a little less muddy on the HBE. Great product!

[@MichaelDespairs]

This is the most coherent video you've ever made. Do them all like this please.

[@CerealDust-nStuff]

Great demo! I should've watched this one first & not the other Atomic review. This one was I could really hear the characteristics of each Amp simulator.

[@Richpena1598]

Great video, love the way the room looks, nice lighting in this one

[@GmanMusicProductions]

first off...keep your close on!!! Excellent demo! I like the room mic demo vs direct. it gives more of a realistic presentation of what each setup sounds like. Could you do a similar video with some of the other floor based modelers like the Helix,AX8?

[@stuartcarden5402]

Always love seeing Danish Pete! Such a great player too.

[@stuartcarden5402]

He's Peter Honoré and does a bunch of session work. Tom Jones, Paloma Faith, Ollie Murs etc. He was also a product guy for.....Actually I can't remember for the life of me but he would demo products at places like andertons, but I don't think he does that any more.

[@stuartcarden5402]

+TipitinaJazzCat No problem :)

[@DorinRocks]

+Stuart Carden He was representing Mesa in the Cab Clone video from Robs channel.

[@CaptAnderton]

+Dorin Ardelean We don't talk about that any more.... Felt really sorry for Pete - he was just trying to do his job & he took a lot of heat for that. Anyway - he's left Boogie now & is full time for Andertons (where we'll never ask him to do anything he doesn't want to!)

[@DorinRocks]

+CaptAnderton Nothing bad to say about Pete. He's a really great player and seems like an awesome dude. Love his style of playing and I'm really glad he joined Andertons. Love the Guitar Paradiso stuff.

[@wrekkingcru]

Excellent video and Danish Pete lays down the Continental shizzle dizzle every time he picks up a guitar :) I'd like to see you do longer clean/warm segments with the Amplifire (and I'm thinking more of Sultans of Swing, Nowhere Man tones and good twang, Country Tele chicken pickin, etc. ....maybe some Rickenbacker Tom Petty / Mike Campbell tone thrown in the mix :)

[@johnnybuggz625]

I use an AX8 and after trying a number of options (including the effects returns on two different tube amps, with some of my favorite regular speaker cabs--Marshall 2204 with loop -->Marshall 1936, Redplate Blackline-->its own 1x12, with Scumback), various PA speakers and an Atomic CLR, I can say that I completely agree with the Andertons boys' assessment: the CLR is the best solution by far. It sounds absolutely huge and much more like the intended cab. I love my 1936 cab...but the CLR absolutely kills it in this application.

[@chrispygingerpie]

I set to 1080p and turned up my volume, very enjoyable! The Victory has more mid to high end bite, the Yamaha is more bass heavy and the Atomic is a middle ground. I liked the Victory Setup best, maybe it is to do with the output valves and guitar cab... as apposed to flat range responce.

[@BrandonNevermind]

That logo in the background looks ace!

[@progreggae]

it would be awesome if Rabea Massaad made review of Amplifire in recording metal/ambient situation

[@Widdy5150]

Great video...handy that as im gonna be heading to Andertons to purchase me an Amplifire in the new year but was wondering how it would sound alongside the matrix gt1000fx pre amp and the matrix 212 cab...Any thoughts? Keep up the fantastic work 👍

[@mikegeeguitarman8991]

You guys are no less than Gods. Salutations and bucket loads of respect for the incredible work you do and myriad of questions you answer!. Another stonking video!

[@grantburgh1]

Danish Pete!! I'm only 7 minutes in to the video but dieing to get the guitar out and try that little chord progression. Good tones and good video, aye aye cap'n 😄

[@ctbedders]

Great playing Pete!! :D

[@TempleOfFive]

I just got a blackstar ht stage 60, when i plug the amplifire into the effects return of the amp I get no sound at all. any ideas why?

[@lpgoog]

I commend Andertons Music Co. This is probably the best demo of this product. This is probably the best one can estimate without physically trying out the unit himself. From my KZbin/home computer perspective, the amp with no IR sounded the best and most natural with CLR in second. The excellent guitarist comments were spot on. Front of house can be tweaked. I recently viewed a concert online where the guy was using the Amplifire and it sounded like a British stack to me. I doubt this unit would be as in your face as the amp clean & distortion. However, given the fact that this unit cost close to a boutique pedal or two, I may give it a try.

[@titmusspaultpaul5]

great vid, no nonsense down to the point, love it. i am thinking of getting one and was wondering, in a live situation can you program what amp and effects you want, then line them up in sequence? for example, if your first song was Panama, and your second song was wanted dead or alive, and the third song was another brick in the wall etc... can you fix patch 1 for Panama, patch 2 for wanted dead or alive etc.... so all you song would be ready to go and in order, all you need to do is switch up a bank and your ready..... thanks. if it can't do that, what can? Helix line 6, Kemper?

[@vantonilin]

Appreciated this video! Job well done. One question, should you have disabled the power amp (simulation) of the amplifier when plugged in the Victory? :) cheers!

[@ManyGenres1212]

DAMN the Friedman through the matched cabinet sounded incredible

[@chrisplummer]

+JKGuitar100 honestly every patch sounded better without the cab sims. The Cab Sims sounded like blankets.

[@darkstar01010england]

They all sounded great to me. Different but still good . Passable gig able sound.

[@cannadaincowboy]

I bought this to run into my Late 80's DR504 Hiwatt. Of course there no effects loop input/output. I have cab off on the Ampilfire and I'm having a hard time finding a good sound. It's now sitting in the corner.lol. It looks like I need to get an FR/FR to get the full sound from the Amplifire.. Thanks for this video

[@MrDavemiley]

I hope I don't die of old age before Atomic finally gets the CLR Neo in stock !

[@middle_pickup]

Would love to see you compare the Helix and the Amplifire.

[@kasnitch]

Capn' have you thought about getting some sound reflection absorbing materials on the walls ? should be some firms that will assess the sound quality in there and design pads and placement for that space. Fluff did that in his studio and it rocks ... literally . Glad to hear Pete is on board now . Hella good musician and seems to be a class act as well.

[@andertons]

+kasnitch The room is already padded down, just not behind the guys. Even the ceiling is padded. The room is bigger than before, and we have only recently moved in, so we are still working on everything. Thanks for watching.

[@mikeaustin4138]

If anyone has a link to a demo of a tube guitar amp into a *passive* FRFR speaker cab, please post it in a reply. Thanks!

[@danjeslismusic]

Has anyone ever tried an Amplifire through a Bose L1 model II? Do you suspect it will feel 'wrong' like the Yamaha speaker in this video?

[@AdieJ62]

"It's important to tweak...!" We all love a good tweak now and then! Great video as always. More Cap10 & Danish videos please!

[@ingolfpencz1304]

First of all: thank you both for doing this. As an owner of both two CLR's and two DXR 10's (little brother of the 12) I'm a bit suprprised that they both sound a bit dull in this run-through. The DXR 12 even sounds like with a blanket thrown over. I cannot believe that the actual room sound was like this and looking at the specs of the Yamaha it is not lacking in the mids at all albeit it has a tendency to be a bit boomy (the DXR 10 actually even pronounces the mids a bit more than the CLR). What I suspect from the way you were trying to capture the room sound is that you actually miked the beam of the victory cab which leaves the impression of more presence and freshness (which is also a listening bias here I think).

[@benvigil]

+Ingolf Pencz From the position of the mics, they seem to only be mic'ing the woofer of the DXR

[@law6044]

Never seen a bit of kit covered so much. Its got to be good if Andertons and Chappers are releasing vids left right and centre about it!

[@andrewbutcher3391]

It is!

[@gabrielleaikens848]

Thank you so much for making this!

[@DanielJackCosta]

You guys should do the same review with the Hc

[@MathiasLM89]

Er Danish Pete fra Danmark i virkeligheden? Jeg fornemmer lidt accent :) og i givet fald, hvordan er han endt hos Andertons?

[@mihaiursu5740]

nice, very usable tones

[@julianvandenboom8633]

amazing Video! I would like to see hiw comfortable it is to gig with it. with only three footswitches 3 Sounds plus boost for a live set maybe? it would be awesome if you could do this

[@AndrewWhite-lx6df]

I use the three footswitches on mine for a volume boost for solos, Delay and Chorus. I then use a Midi Mouse to scroll through the patches. I can gig with it very easily indeed.

[@julianvandenboom8633]

+Andrew White bought one in january from andertons. happy as I can be

[@funkyfurballs1078]

I just want a twin cabinet with one 12" Celestion Heritage for my OD pedals and a 2-way FRFR in the other half for digital effects.

[@shysingh]

I think both the CLR and the DXR sound very similar..they bothsound excellent.. and very 'final', meaning like a well produced guitar sound. the Victory Cab and Power Amp seems a bit more Mid ranged harsh..maybe a good thing in a band situation.. maybe it just needs a bit of 'production' Eqs etc.. to sound as 'Final' as the emulations.. amazing time to be a musician in this world.. so much great technology and mysteries unraveled. ..what when we acutally figure it all out. (-;

[@AndrewWhite-lx6df]

I've just bought an AmpliFire from you and it's really good. I'm running it into the Effects Return of a BluGuitar AMP1 and then into an Orange 1X12 with a Vintage 30. I chose this route partly because I couldn't afford the Atomic cabinet and partly because I thought it sounded pretty good through the Victory anyway. The PA speaker sounded awful to me. I have two questions relating to what you did here:1) Would a more 'transparent' guitar speaker work better as the Vintage 30 tends to have a lot of upper mids?2) Why did you turn the cab sims off when going into the guitar cabinet because in another video you did with Chappers, you said you preferred keeping the cab sims on, even when going into a normal guitar cabinet? I've tried both on mine and you certainly get a much bigger sound with cab sims turned on.

[@thesphericalguy9018]

I know this is an old comment, but I'm considering a near identical setup. How do you like it, still using it?

[@AndrewWhite-lx6df]

Yes, I still have it and I still love it! The Atomic is so good that even after this time, when the novelty factor has certainly worn off, I still have absolutely no intention of going back to a valve amp. I'm also still using the BluGuitar AMP1 with it and I still use the same Orange 1X12. I simply haven't found anything better so far. I know they claim on the video the Atomic cab works best but I found it to be pretty marginal between the Atomic and the Victory and certainly nothing that a little tweaking wouldn't solve. I also think that it works particularly well with my set up because the Class D power amp in my BluGuitar AMP1 is made to be quite transparent because it uses modelling in the preamp stage and the valve used in the AMP1 is in the power amp stage rather than the usual preamp stage so I still get the benefit of its warmth. The AMP1 is a superb bit of kit and works well so all I really did with the Atomic was give myself more options and far more processing power so it was perhaps inevitable that the results just got better and better. What I have discovered is that I prefer using the matched cabinets even when going through my own amp and guitar cabinet. It just sounds huge compared to having no cabinet emulation. It might be different if I was using a 4X12 but through a 1X12 the use of the matched cabs option really helps. I've spoken to a few other Atomic users and they all seem to prefer using the matched cab option too. I've also found that some patches are very easy to dial in whereas others take a lot of tweaking. I still don't quite have the Marshall or Friedman tones I want but the Plexi sound is simply incredible and I found that very quickly. The Plexi model with an overdrive in front is superb. I've used this set up in the house, I've used it for gigs in pubs and I've used it for outdoor gigs and it has never sounded anything other than stellar. Frankly, there are some tones that I can get out of this (the Plexi especially) that guitarists with proper valve amps have been very jealous of and couldn't believe such a huge and vibrant sound was coming from the two small boxes on my pedalboard.

[@dinogiolitti6968]

Isn't the BluGuitar amp and Orange 1x12 more expensive than an Atomic CLR?

[@JM-eq3sx]

5:32 (finally!) Fender Deluxe patch, no cab emulation, thru Victory V30 return > Victory cab 5:55 Fender Deluxe patch with cab emulation thru DXR12 (which remarkably has no highs at all, could it be defective?) 6:22 Fender Deluxe patch with cab emulation thru Atomic CLR powered cab (which has added back only some of the highs we heard through the Victory, sounds great just the same) 6:57 Rumble patch, no cab emulation, thru Victory V30 return > Victory cab 7:18 Rumble patch thru DXR12 stuffed with used hankies (kidding about the hankies). I'm wondering, after that mention of the need to tweak, why no attempt was made to tweak each output. I've heard the DXR12 in different applications and I've never heard it sound this dead and lifeless. You have to really try, to work at it, to make a speaker of that quality sound bad. That said, there's no point in continuing to time-mark these demos because it's not fair comparison. It's natural to assume the CLR cab would be the best fit "out of the box" for the AmpliFire. It's a great product. Not a great use of time here though.

[@PelicanIslandLabs]

From a youtube listener perspective the tube amp sounded the best. The Atomic FRFR was the next best and the Yami sounded horrible.

[@chrisplummer]

+John Godden yep.

[@ahmetayaz8131]

yesss

[@johnbuxton2529]

There is a technique for mic-ing that utilises a dummy head - I`ve heard recordings that utilise this which were outstanding.

[@adamnoire795]

How different do you think the tone will be from a SG standard and the 335? I know completely different guitars before anyone says...

[@andertons]

+adamnoire It will probably be similar to plugging those two guitars direct in to a "real" amp.. It would probably still sound great. Thanks for watching.

[@OzziePete1]

+adamnoire SG vs 335? SG will probably sound more trebly and have some bite, and may sustain more. Won't have the bass response of the 335. Nor will it have the 'air' from a semi solid. Through any amp system that's what I'd expect to hear comparing those 2 guitars.

[@creeker90]

I think the Atomic sounds best, because the lower mids are scooped quite a bit and you don't get that woofy bloated lowend. Would also be my fave in that comparison.

[@vivael18]

Sounds really good, although I would but that much gain on a 335

[@paule6101]

Thanks for this. Any chance of a head to head between the Amplifire and a Line6 Helix?

[@CaptAnderton]

+Paul E Apart from the basic amp modelling I think the 2 units are pretty different. AmpliFire definately wins as a desk top recording interface in my opinion, just because its such a great price & the amp models are very good. For gigging, especially as an alternative to a pedal board, I think Helix wins, & its incredibly intuitive to use. In the end though you need to try both in to the specific rig you're going to use it with before you can really make a real judgement call.

[@paule6101]

+CaptAnderton Thanks for the response. They are both floor based amp/effect modelling solutions which are intended for live use (foot controlled), and can both replace a traditional amp by going straight to the PA.. It would be great to compare the amp models on offer. Clearly the line6 is more flexible due to the larger number of controls and bigger interface, but I still think it would make a good shootout - perhaps throw in some cheaper modelling solutions too to cover a variety of price ranges.

[@theflatearthsociety]

Maybe it's the mic placement, mics, who knows, but the Victory amp sounds great, and everything else sounds like a blanket over the speaker.

[@robertsimpson5801]

I wish you guys had run it direct, as well.

[@paniccleo]

Tonnes more low end through the Yamaha, but the matched speaker was probably the most accurate.

[@volltroll]

put the cab sim on and run it through the vintage 30!!! ^^

[@duxerraticus9584]

I know nothing, of course, but for me the Victory cab n amp sounded the best, particularly in the lower-gain samples. Always remembering that KZbin makes its own adjustments.

[@felipejustin]

That 335 tone! omg

[@joejack6576]

+Felipe Justino I know right-

[@johnbuxton2529]

How about running the Amplifire into a solid state power amplifier - a quality PA amp for example - with a guitar cab and using the Amplifire as the pre-amp. Interesting to hear it without being coloured by a guitar amp.

[@titmusspaultpaul5]

thats what the other 2 speakers were for, there is absolutely no colouring through thoses 2 speakers.

[@guitarzola]

Please help me. Can Atomic amplifire work with the 4 cable method?. Cheers

[@CaptAnderton]

+Carlos Arzola You can use the 4 cable method with the AmpliFire but I'm not too sure if you can assign FX from the Amplifre to run through the FX loop of your amp - you'd need to contact Atomic via their facebook page to find out more! Cheers

[@guitarzola]

Ok, Thanks for the info!!!

[@guitarzola]

 Ok, Thanks for the info!!! CaptAnderton

[@DanielJackCosta]

I don't know if it was the mic'ing, but the simulations were very bad...

[@JM-eq3sx]

Enjoyed the Captain's awkward disclaimer 3:22 about AmpliFire presets, which could also be made on behalf of ALL modelers and multi-effect devices I have ever tried. What is wrong with these companies?

[@titmusspaultpaul5]

much better sound when NOT going through the amp, it was so much better through the other 2 speakers.

[@titmusspaultpaul5]

Formaly known as Styxhexenhammers 10.2 inch cock tool, ive been playing 30 yrs and this Amplifire was obviously designed for the cabnets, not the amp. the amp sounds better when NOT using the Amplifire.

[@Newnodrogbob]

POTUS YUUUGE BIGLY you’re the reason guitar geeks hate modelers. They all try to use them through their precious amps, the amps make them sound like crap, and they dismiss the modeler. It was no contest for anyone with half a clue.

[@titmusspaultpaul5]

@@Newnodrogbob well said.

[@rashidimule]

can I play my bass guitar in this too, or its not made for bass...

[@CaptAnderton]

There's no reason why you couldn't plug a bass in but as far as I know there are no Amplifire bass amp patches right now - you should ask them on their Facebook page if/when that's coming.

[@MartinCraneRockbeast]

Why can't you get your buddies at Victory to make an FRFR set up?

[@croak89]

... Is the live show still today?

[@andertons]

+croak89 Its on now... On Robs channel. Thanks for watching.

[@danoflaherty1214]

What ever happened to Jet City? Haven't heard about them in a few years

[@kyzrvlhlm1995]

+Wall OfNoise no they haven't. they are still plenty active.

[@danoflaherty1214]

+Wall OfNoise thanks :)

[@CerealDust-nStuff]

they sell 'em at Walmart. www.walmart.com/ip/15048471

[@danoflaherty1214]

+Aaron Phillips talk about a fall from grace

[@paniccleo]

+Aaron Phillips wow, that's so weird. Good amps, especially at the price. Welp.

[@dantrufin]

Would have been nice if you had a direct output also to compare. Btw just bought an Amplifire and it's amazing :)

[@CaptAnderton]

+Dan Trufin We didn't do that because it was really meant to be a "live sound" speaker comparison, rather than an in the studio vs live comparison. BTW - there are several demos on our channel of how it sounds straight in to an interface.

[@dantrufin]

+CaptAnderton Yeah I know, saw all of those. I meant it would have been nice to hear the same riff & amp model/settings to be able to compare. Thanks for the quick delivery guys! It took like 2 days to get to Germany! :D

[@napalmhardcore]

I was having a browse of the internet to see what FRFR cabinets are out there. This lead me to some forums where people were asking for advice. It seems that a few people are missing the point entirely as I saw some people asking how to mic up an FRFR cabinet and others talking about how good it sounds/will sound at a gig. For those that do not know, the point of these things is to monitor your own performance or for your own enjoyment of the sound when practicing. If you are concerned with getting the best sound out to your audience you should be looking at upgrading your front of house speakers or encouraging the venue to upgrade theirs. Seeing how it is likely that the most sound critical people in the venue are going to be the band themselves, I guess it makes sense that they think it sounds good, but if you are going out to a crap PA (or a decent PA but the guy on the mixer hasn't a clue what he's doing), that is how you will sound to the rest of the world.

[@r.llynch4124]

+napalmhardcore you can totally gig with frfr why not? my 2 freidmans kick ass live .out to house or used backlined like a normal amp. stereo never sounded better cant get that hi-fi audio with any of my tube amps.

[@napalmhardcore]

+rick jones The point is, if you are using them to monitor, they are going to either be pointed at you and not the audience or used as a backline. Presumably, if you're using them as a backline, you don't have them cranked because the other members of your band need to hear themselves too (though I've known some inconsiderate guitarists in my time that only care that they can hear themselves and be heard). That means the benefit is for you, not your audience. The front of house speakers are going to be what the audience hears you through. Very few people seem to give any consideration to this fact. So while people are onstage with their great FRFR monitor or amp thinking they sound amazing, the audience is getting a completely mediocre sound from the mediocre front of house speakers. You get where I'm coming from?

[@r.llynch4124]

I guess were luck we play our larger gigs most of the time with awesome p.a systems but yeah i get your point most are crap.We don't play thru systems that suck anymore..lol its still important with stage volume for the audience in smaller venues, using either amps or FRFR systems. I use 2 rigs one is 2 tube amps and pedalboard with mostly analog but a few digital effects and LOTS of plugs and cables which is controlled by G2. The other is helix with 2 freidman units and a few cables. costwise rig 1=12k and rig 2=3k . Its much easier to setup with rig 2 and the audio is way more refined since its more hi-fi and built for the helix or other such systems.Don't get me wrong I love my tubes but digital has come along way and imo finally caught up with analog. it does not make much sense to drag amp/cabs around to every gig when you can walk in with something like helix and a specific cab that's made for that system.and sound just as good or better with the ability to change amps/cabs go stereo post ect.. It all has its good and bad points but i'm glad fractal and L6 give us awesome products like this to use live or in the bedroom.

[@napalmhardcore]

+rick jones I envy your rigs :) All of my previous gigs have been primarily acoustic (apart from when I've played as a guest with a couple of bands I was the support act for), so I've only needed my guitar to go straight to the mixer (or used the band's setup). I have my own small PA system for when I can't use the venue's (because the sound guy isn't there and doesn't like people using his equipment) or they don't have one. I've been teaching myself lead guitar and been playing a lot more electric over the past 18 months or so and intend to introduce it into my act. I currently have a Blackstar HT-20 head and the matching 2x12 cab (and an SM57 to mic it with). Being I have to take my own PA sometimes and my roadie is my retired father, I don't really want to have to lug the Blackstar to every gig, so I'm saving for an Atomic Amplifire. I currently have a couple of the Joyo Sansamp clones that can be used direct and a Zoom G5. While they sound OK at home through my little TC FX150 for noodling, I don't know how they'd sound at a gig. I don't want to embarrass myself at a gig if I have to go direct and they end up sounding horrible. The Amplifire has really impressed me in some of the demos I've seen, so it would give me peace of mind. Plus, with the power-amp modeling and cab IRs, it will give me a lot of flexibility to use with other gear. That and I just plain want it lol.

[@r.llynch4124]

My equipment took years to get since i'm not rich.. that atomic will be a great system upgrade.I have been my boys roadie a few times myself. cool to have a father involved with your music. keep your mind open and keep on rockin bro.

[@wheresallthezombies]

You cant turn off the power amp section on the amplifire?

[@kingtjk]

+wheresallthezombies Sure you can. :)

[@wheresallthezombies]

ook lol. he just said they turned off the cab, so i wasn't sure.

[@kingtjk]

+wheresallthezombies You can independently turn off/on the preamp, power amp and cabinets. A lot of people still prefer to keep the power amp simulations on when using tube amps. It helps get a cranked sound at lower volumes.

[@AndrewWhite-lx6df]

Yes, I still use the power amp sims on the AmpliFire even though I'm using my own power amp but I don't always have the power amp on the AmpliFire set to 100%. Sometimes, by backing it down a bit, you can use it as an effective alternative to tweaking the EQ settings.

[@wheresallthezombies]

Andrew White ok cool. I'm fixing to get one just need a couple more things before i can fully get one. then ill be close to having my dream set up

[@QueenToKingOfSpades]

DXR12 was too boomy, Atomic Wedge sounded best alone, but I think the Victory setup would sit best in a band mix.

[@GarethLa]

could you do the exact same with Helix? Savage playing DPete

[@MrIrishmn]

put some binural Mic's on Pete's ears next time!! that'd be really cool. let him walk around the whole room and such. now that's a fkin room sound

[@Gonzo2707]

Ye gods, that "Rumble" model sounds utterly droolworthy. Well, if my ears could drool, coming to think of it. Which amp is it modelled after? Some sort of an obscure Link Wray / Surf guitar / Rockabilly reference?

[@CaptAnderton]

+Christoph Rauch I'm guessing Rumble = Dumble....

[@Gonzo2707]

+CaptAnderton Oh right, that may well be the case... Never seen one of those in the wild. Always imagined they sounded sorta Boogie Mk I- ish. Live & learn.

[@craigparse1439]

The cabinet emulation adds a LOT of low-mid and bass... you don't hear that on the Victory amp without the cab emulation.

[@Mr59tweed]

I wonder if they applied the appropriate DSP settings on those full range speakers (the Yamaha and CLR). To be placed on the ground, there are settings which compensate for the increased bass that would be experienced, and I would guess they failed to do that.

[@AngelaMaria-jm5ds]

Graça e paz a todos .

[@funkystudiocat]

Great video but the choice of guitar could have been better. IMHO most players use strats, Paul’s and teles and those guitars probably represent more guitar players. Hollow bodies really color the tone versus solid body guitars. Of course IMHO. Peace to all.

[@Mordecai06]

Es 335 still rules!

[@LochNessAnthony]

wish I could hear a difference

[@Fender5621]

I miss the simple amp test where it is easily understood because the amp/speaker was all it was. Now with some many configuration options these type tests are not useful to me. I have to draw a picture for myself of these various configs just to attempt to understand what I'm listening to. Sorry but to me this was not a very good comparison.

[@motorhed]

If you're gonna use an active PA plastic box speaker then at least use the QSC 12" or JBL EON 15"...those yamaha DS's are a joke. Peter is splendid as always...who has he toured for????

[@danishpete]

Thanks for the love. Check my channel or Facebook page out, there's a little list of artists I a have worked with. Have a good evening. P

[@Brennosguitarsandgear]

It's a DXR , and they are better than the Eon and on par with the QSC

[@HaraldEngels]

The Atomic Cab solution sounds well balanced - so the development of guitar gear might move more and more into such a direction. But it is obviously that tube amps are a dying species.

[@superbford]

The tube amp gave a bit too much of its own character..... the Yamaha was bad... would need more tweaking in the Atomic to get it right. The Atomic speaker setup was the best sounding overall and the most true to what the models were conveying.

[@AngelaMaria-jm5ds]

A paz do senhor.

[@dickjonesify]

The real amp was the worst. Yuck! Did it sound that bad in the room or is the amp at a disadvantage for not being close mic'd?

[@mysticsailor9]

The Yamaha just sounded, like, not good. The wedge sounded most authentic, but the amp/cab sounded decent enough

[@anxiousmindmusic]

Digital preamps and FRFR cabs always have a horribly artificial sounding low end. The V30 and Vintage 30 sounded so much more authentic.

[@ahmetayaz41]

i think the regular amp+cab sound best. CLR is ok. yamaha sounds horrible

[@bernhardrohrer9593]

putting micophones into ears? It's known as dummy head recording ...

[@basicoptimalmouse]

Dedicated FRFR makes PA sound like trash. Definitely not as nice as a real cab, but definitely a fair compromise for us modelling fans.

[@Alfredo78666]

Amplifaaaaiiiia

[@albe1216]

Gode hilsner fra denmark

[@mikeaustin4138]

Yamaha sounds muddy