Atomos Shogun Review & guide to Vectorscope, Waveform, False Color

[@siddharth_r1]

Such a pleasure to learn from someone who knows what he is speaking and it is not so common in the youtube world. Thanks Tom Antos. You’re an educator and an inspiration!

[@KarimJovian]

I have the ninja inferno and when i turn on peaking all the shadows have the peaking color along with what is in focus. How do i fix that? The peaking is on lowest setting too

[@CaptD06]

Great video, I have started using my Ninja Blade again and referred to your video for a refresher. I love the fact that you got right into the video. Your setup for seeing what your doing what buttons you're pressing even though it's a different device is excellent.

[@jasonweiss8110]

Since you talk about battery life, I think it's important to note that all new Shoguns will be shipped with a 5200 mAh battery, and all registered owners will be sent one at no cost. I think that's phenomenal customer service. I've been using a 6300 mAh battery on mine and didn't need to switch all day shooting both 4K and 1080.

[@TomAntos]

Jason Weiss Great! Thanks for the info Jason.

[@Glen.Danielsen]

Hi Tom, Quick suggestion: when showing tech items, do extreme closeups of them. Nice video again! Cheers!

[@Sank1982]

What a great video on this, I have watched so many videos on Atomos monitors but NO ones as explained all the features and how they work as well as you. Wave forms, zebras, thank you for doing this it as helped me decide I need one. But I think the new Ninja V will be better for me.

[@mondobytes]

Awesome video Tom, learned a few new things on my Shogun.

[@AntosMedia]

Glad you found it usefull!

[@TheJWC56RSA]

TomAntosFilms Great stuff Tom!! Can you tell me what the difference will be in image quality when you compare a normal 1080p file to a 4K file when you shoot with the Sony A7s?? I have shot normal 1080p with my A7s and then played it through a 55" 4K monitor that does up-scaling and it looks very good to say the least! In fact I really do not see a very big difference between the GH4 4K and the up-scaled A7s image... Your comments Tom??

[@evertonoliphant4737]

Tom, good review. Now I have a much better understanding of this piece of tool. I got mine last week and I will be using it with the Sony PMW320K, bypassing the ever expensive SxS cards. With regards the plastic build of the Shogun. My understanding is that it will be a much lighter addition to the weight of your set-up, being mounted on the top of your camera. Everton

[@annoyboyPictures]

Perhaps a Silly question... Can the ATOMOS SHOGUN record 1080p at 120 FPS from a Sony A7S - as in does the HDMI signal allow for higher FPS rates outside of the camera's own internal recording capabilities? The reason I ask is that the camera settings on the Sony A7S only allows for 120fps for the 720p HD setting and not the 1080p. 

[@MicDoesThings]

looks like the video signal is a bit delayed. Is that the case? Cause I'm experiencing that with the Ninja 2

[@TomAntos]

Yes it is... that's not a problem with the shogun it's a problem caused by HDMI technology. Any device that's connected using HDMI cables will have a delay.

[@MicDoesThings]

Thanks Tom. I only find it a bit annoying when monitoring audio on the Ninja 2 because I can hear my talent in the background and the audio feed a quarter of a second delayed. By the way... the video you shot in Rome was fantastic!

[@cristibalteanu2515]

+Tom Antos (Tom Antos Films) what about SDI? If I use an HDMI to SDI converter and then connect it to the recorder, will I still get the delay?

[@manone]

Another killer video, Tom.

[@fanfan9768]

Nice video! Not all squares represent 100 saturation in vectorscope. What level are these represent?

[@musalasinnovation]

Hi Tom. is the Atomos Shogun has the AtomHDR option . And what is your suggestion to buy the second hand of the Atomos Shogun or Atomos Ninja V - which one should i buy your comment is highly appreciated.

[@cinarul9642]

Hİ Mr. Antos I would be pleasure if you reply my question. I am trying to be more familiar with exposure but I am really stuck with Canon c300 mkii with shogun inferno. 1- For Proses Raw with shogun inferno what is the proper exposure? I mean if I use waveform on inferno for exposure, where 18% grey card should be on? And would it be changed both c log 2 and 3? 2- İf I decided to shoot internally C log 2- cinema gamut- production main setting for C300 mkii where grey card should be? 3- I responed to my question about noise on shogun inferno when shoot internal c-log2; a dop said don't apply lut from your camera to shogun them noise will dissaper. What do you think about it? thank you.

[@TheGeoDaddy]

Getting deeper into my Atomos Ninja V (now that Nikon has delivered ProRes RAW) and I assume that the functionality for Wave and Vectoring is (about) the same??? Using the Zoom F4 recorder and tentacle 🐙 to get a more accurate Time Code (syncing a base track to my Z6 left audio track to match) but I hear that there is a lag writing to the Atomos recoders... any tips/tricks to re-sync? Either way, the audio will be real-time but the video will be lagging behind... hopefully... consistently!

[@bogman192]

really appreciate this one. Nicely laid out and explained - thanks so much!

[@GlennBoulton]

Hi Tom, I notice some latency on the monitor, is this a problem you think?

[@AntosMedia]

Not really... that's the case with using HDMI not the monitor. Any monitor you use that's connected via HDMI will have that... that's why when playing Xbox or PlayStation you have to adjust latency settings for different TV's

[@GlennBoulton]

TomAntosFilms Thanks for that! I havent got an xbox or PS....the wife wont let me :)

[@AntosMedia]

Direcordingstudios LOL... tell her it's important for your work! You need to play to do research

[@wisclovesdmb]

Thanks so much for this. I just received my Atomos Assassin for my Sony A7s. Quick question. When shooting in Slog2, most people suggest shooting around +2 stops over. With regards to this, do I read the histogram the same way with not clipping over 100 with the highlights?

[@evertonoliphant4737]

Hi Tom, I used the Shogun to record from my PMW 320. When I playback from the Shogun, the audio is present. If I playback from my Macbook Pro, I get no audio. Can you help? Everton

[@DJinaShoebox]

For log its important to shoot 10bit

[@NCTOnline]

Does the Shogun split the files or does it record the entire length of a shot? We use the Atomos Ninja and it randomly splits files.

[@ricardomorote5600]

Hi Tom, thanks for your amazing review. Did you use the Shogun with Paralinx Arrow Plus? Can you confirm some problems between Shogun and Paralinx? HDMI OUTPUT? Thanks.

[@Moonage101]

hi Tom Antos great video what is the name of the field monitor you recommended? & does it works with the gh4?

[@AntosMedia]

Im uploading a review of a great but cheap monitor for the GH4 tomorrow.

[@jerryshang7289]

Tom, How to set up 2.35/2.40 Aspect ratio crop? I notice there is a crops option but very confused. Thanks

[@DavidStozek]

Is the atomos shogun the only monitor to record for my sony a7s in 4k? The price is to damn high for the upgrade to 4k as a recorder! So please answer me if you now another cheaper recorder. Thx and Tom, great Review props from germany! (y)

[@DreamVicarious]

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[@AntosMedia]

There are others but this recorder is the cheapest and best option to record 4K out of the sony a7s

[@tindikali]

Tom does skin color fall in 42 ire on false color using the atomos ninja inferno...i tried to use false got my skin right but the rest of scene was under exposed...do i get skin right then adjust extra lights for the scene...what rule should i go for the scene to nail it right...thanks...

[@petrub27]

VI STAR NATION FILMS depends on tour gamma curve; or use a lut to convert back to 709

[@teofilharii4344]

Also, is this unit compatible with the DATAVIDEO HS2200?

[@CommiePinko101]

How tight is HDMI port on that SHOGUN? After the too tight HDMI port on my smallHD AC7 leading to damage, I no longer trust smallHD, and I'm looking for another brand.

[@TomAntos]

Christopher Cox Its pretty tight... then again depends on the HDMI cable and the plug on that.

[@CommiePinko101]

Tom Antos Thanks for letting me know. As for HDMI cables. I've found the plug size on them to be more consistent than the size of the HDMI terminals on various devices, including high end YAMAHA receivers.

[@teofilharii4344]

Hi, can you have video in via SDI and at the same time video out via HDMI?

[@LaurentLaborde]

+Teofil Harii never tried but yes, with a 1 frame delay (or is it 0?) if i remember correctly. check the manual.

[@LaurentLaborde]

+Teofil Harii Does the Shogun loop out 4K over HDMI? Yes. Whatever the input resolution and frame rate is will be output over HDMI & SDI. You have a built in converter. Does the Shogun downscale 4K to HD on the loop out and in playback? Version 6.1 or earlier did not have HD downscale. However, now with AtomOS 6.2 available, a 4K UHD input to 1080p output with the same frame rate can be realized. This means you can still work with your existing HD infrastructure (ie HD monitor, HD wireless transmitter, HD EVF etc) but record to 4K. Do you support SDI loop out from a HDMI input? Yes. You have a built in bi direction converter. Conversion is always on between HDMI and SDI and vice versa. What is the exact delay of HDMI from Shogun? 1 frame delay on output. Remember that cameras have a delay on their HDMI output as well. The delay of the Shogun is a maximum of 1 frame, in addition to the delay from the camera. Do you support HDMI loop out from a SDI input? Yes. You have a built in bi direction converter. Conversion is always on between HDMI and SDI and vice versa

[@Emperor-2029]

Before starting to record this review you needed to clean the monitor of Atomos Shogun. There are many Fingerprint, it's not looks good, not nice, but your reviews mostly interesting and helpful, useful.

[@AntosMedia]

I did clean it but while handling it during prep it got lots of finger prints again... I show how each product is without trying to make it more pretty than it is... unfortunately this screen is very reflective and prone to finger prints.

[@Emperor-2029]

TomAntosFilms When you open the case and take this monitor it has already fingerprints on screen...

[@bandisarojkumarfans7962]

sony a7s ii records 4k internally... then why should u buy this for that???

[@CristiTomaPhotography]

Does it has any form of focus assist functions ?

[@LaurentLaborde]

+Foto-Video Cristi Toma yes

[@BBWinner48]

can 3d lut creator be loaded into this device?

[@SullyCortez]

super informative! thanks once again Tom!

[@LeoBritoArts]

Thank you so much, great video.

[@gilaxia]

Hello, is it possible to focus with touchscreen? Sony a7s 2

[@Beyond-Horizons-]

get a panasonic ............

[@77superboss]

Awesome video man

[@JayKimDotNet]

Also any camera that shoots annoying AVCHD like the c100, this would be a very overpriced solution for that annoying workflow.

[@estebanzd]

tks 4 ur videos!

[@TomAntos]

Esteban Zuñiga You are welcome!

[@tareknagla3141]

EXCELLENT

[@lawrenceanthony8187]

Thabks

[@joedebrito1011]

Really awesome review! But you said ''you know'' 93293929429x. It gets annoying after more than 10x.

[@LaurentLaborde]

plasticky but lightweight :)