Ukraine War Update BUMPER NEWS (20240928c): Geopolitical News

[@KevinForst-n2t]

I'm not sure if everyone saw this but it's just coming out on The Hill. Bipartisan report urges rethink of America’s Russia strategy. "The bipartisan committee charged with supporting democracy and human rights in post-Soviet states is pushing for the United States to dump the post-Cold War status quo in its relations with Russia and label Moscow as a “persistent” threat to global security." "A priority focus of the report’s strategy is to ensure Ukraine’s victory in its defensive war against Russia, calling for “massive” military and humanitarian assistance for Kyiv and allowing Ukraine’s armed forces to strike deep into Russia with U.S. provided weapons." "These lawmakers are likely to embrace the report’s conclusions that “the United States must prepare for long-term contestation, understanding that Russia has a centuries-long history of violent imperialism toward its neighbors, Europe, and the world more broadly.” I hope America's leaders wake up..............

[@hihikats]

@@KevinForst-n2t is there a link for this report?

[@darrencorrigan8505]

Did you get a link? May I get it as well?​@@hihikats

[@KevinForst-n2t]

@@hihikats just go to "The Hill" the story was published this morning. The report is from the Helsinki Commission. Republican chair, Rep. Joe Wilson (S.C.) Story was by Laura Kelly.

[@GeoEcoF16]

@@KevinForst-n2t was and will any of it be bipartisan should Trump win? Personally I think Team Ukr deserve one solid go at breaking Rus with serious weapos and air frames support. Rys cant get Kherson. That would be too much and restrict Ukr security for its exports via the black sea etc.

[@I-have-a-brain_and-use-it]

It does not matter wha the politicians know or think They can not do anything without the OK from Wall St Wall St is paranoid that they will be frozen out of russia after the war is over . Thus they will not let Biden to allow the deep strikes into russia It is all about the resumption of the $ 5,000,000,000 that US companies have been taking out of russia every year till the war started . This is why it is OK for Israel to use US weapons against Lebanon because the US has very few financial interests in Lebanon but not OK for Ukraine to use US weapons deep inside russia because the US has billions invested in russia .

[@sherylpetrucci5730]

Jonathan the rant was so good, you have made it so easy to understand exactly what the orange git wants! Slava Ukraine andd god bless the people of Ukraine.

[@Paulus8765]

I skip the rants. I need to rant too, so I need someone who's listening.

[@sherylpetrucci5730]

@@Paulus8765 Hi Paul but why, they're great!

[@Borsuk3344]

Let me be very clear. Milions of Ukrainians live in the occupied territories. Nothing that Zelensky said pointed to a negotiation where Ukraine would give away it's ground and people. When Zelensky said that the end of the war is closer than many think he meant winning the war, not by pushing out ruskies out of all territories but by hurting russia and their ability to wage the war so much that they will agree to withdraw as long as Kurwsk (intentional spelling) is given back and some political concessions are made. Political concessions which Ukraine probably does not aim to actually fullfill. Please don't give voice to journalists who misrepresent the situation, as they did from the beggining of the conflict, by creating articles that assume, that rusia does not hurt from the war and that the ground taken is the only metric of winning. If last rusian left alive takes out last Ukrainian square meter of territory, with millions of Ukrainians still living abroad, will that be a ruski victory? This is the thinking of those journalists stretched to it's limits. At current rate russia will run out of people before they take Ukraine. There is no reason for Ukraine to give up the territory and milions of Ukrainians living on that territory with ruskies losing so much with their attacks. If rusia ever switches to full on defence then the situation will actually be tougher in negotiations. Currently it's better to continue to kill and maim over 1000 ruskies per day as Ukraine does. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk, you can find takes smarter than the stuff from those "journalists" in a dumpster. Edit: Kamala said it right.

[@harold22774]

Well said.if Ukraine wants to continue the fight we in Britain are 100% behind you .I wish we could contribute more

[@gmespia]

Very well said.

[@genbure9908]

​@@harold22774...❤

[@W_Bin]

Exactly. What they are suggesting is human trafficking, to preserve Putin and save money. violating the UN universal declaration of human rights in addition to everything else.

[@Sophiedorian0535]

Well Saïd. Kamala indeed said it right.

[@viggoholmsen7203]

Hypocracy, lies and double standards seem to be the MAGA way.

[@viggoholmsen7203]

47:35 - Ukraine has a staunch supporter in Lieutenant General Ben Hodges.

[@waynegordon2628]

Zeĺensky "I don't want a ride, I need ammo!" Trump "BONE SPURS!"

[@robsharber2004]

JP, you remain spot on with your commentary. Still love your passion for the things I see important. We keep trying to inform the uniformed even when they have bought into the bigotry and hate.

[@hihikats]

@@robsharber2004 well said and echoed loudly! Brilliant!

[@viggoholmsen7203]

09:55 - There is a major problem with trying to curb inflation with interest rates when inflation in large part is driven by excessive government spending.

[@I-have-a-brain_and-use-it]

Inflation should be attacked with the consumption tax that the country has . And this applies to every country . Raising interest rates only hurts a small section of the community and benefits the sector that has the most disposable income . It make manufacturing much more expensive so the local factories go bust because retail just finds cheaper imports to maintain the current prices The banks make a fortune and pay their executives a windfall bonus while the government has to foot the bill for social security . Having the Reserve set the VAT or in our case the GST in 6 month increments is a far better plan because the money that is taken out of the economy goes to the government and not the financial institutions . I had a home loan that went from 4% to 18.5 % under the Keating government and that pushed us into negative equity . We got saved because our parents signed on as guarantors but some where around 22,000 Australians had their houses repossessed by the banks and auctioned off .In many cases they still ended up owing the bank money at anything from 10 % to 15 % and many never recovered financially . Now because money was tight and loans hard to get most of these houses ended up being bought by multi millionaires and added to their rental property portfolios so as mentioned those with 99+ % disposable incomes just got richer and of course spent more . I was delivering $ 5,000 bottle of booze to city office buildings all during the Keating recession that he & he alone created .

[@jamesmurray34]

I'm really sick of people claiming to support Ukraine yet say they won't vote for Harris. If people like Professor Gerdes vote 3nd party in November then they are helping elect Trump and destroy the democracy of Ukraine

[@alanchristensen5735]

That is exactly 💯 what I'm saying! Just like voting third party as I did in 2016. I F***ed up. However the state I voted in went for Hillary.

[@Vanu-i4o]

No one cares about Ukraine, they're voting for America. All these people virtual signalling are the same people that claim to care about the environment, but then buy a new electric car every 4 years.

[@catherineandpaulfuters2523]

Thank you for your coverage and insights JP 🇬🇧🇺🇦🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇦🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇦🇪🇺

[@themnvikingsfan]

Yet another good video! One bit for you! Russia will continue to use freedom of speech and it is up to us to counter that point. Until Social Media is held as responsible for "their" content as journalists are, this issue will get worse!

[@richardbennett8522]

Good Afternoon Jonathan and the ATP team.I have a mug of tea at the ready for this video

[@surpriseitsus9622]

Hi Richard, it's going on 11pm, finally sitting down to watch. Good morning 🌄 ☕️ We made it up to 117 degrees today 🌵

[@richardbennett8522]

@@surpriseitsus9622 Hi Lynn and its 12 degrees Celsius when I got up

[@Bob-p7x]

Thanks JP and team , I learned so many things I had not heard in detail yet to this point. Your information and the teams knowledge is outstanding. 💙🔱💙

[@Scottbayer]

It would be something if Ukraine could apply for the seat that Russia is sitting on in the UN and make the claim the Russian federation has no right to it and if the countries vote for Ukraine to take that seat, that would be something a country that knows what it’s like to have their neighbor invade them, they would be the appropriate party to be on the security council

[@michaelwiwchar3414]

Good morning JP. I have all the time in the world for Talaria's ideas, however, I feel it necessary to state the following, I realize it will be an unpopular opinion. With the formation of Brics, it would be impossible to win such a vote. It is really that simple, soft power influence of the third world by bad actors is much greater than western influence. Therefore, while I appreciate that a vote should happen it would be moot. In the period when this would have to most likely occurred, western countries were more interested in courting Putin and this really hasn't changed to this day. This is further compounded by the fact that the UN is itself wholely and fully compromised through the filling of various positions throughout the organization with people who have no interest in what is right or wrong and are there to serve the interests of their country only (Putting uncle fester aside). This has been well documented for over a decade now in relation to Chinese power playing with positions inside the UN. I would assume under Modi India is doing the same thing as well.This is on top of the horrendous amount of western tankies inside the UN beauracry who actively work against normal and moral interest ( just look at the head of the IAEA slapping high fives at ZNPP with the occupiers). There is simply more power and influence in the hands of countries who have no interest in making this happen. I propose another modern scenario why hasn't there been a vote to remove, let alone sanction, Israel form the UN? More countries despise Israel over ruzzia yet no vote. My personal opinion is that the line between Bibi and Putin isn't really a line more or less the same person in that they require war to stay in power and are painfully old and out of date in their thinking. Finally, in terms of removing ruzzia from the UNSC, putting their veto aside. Do you really think that China wouldn't just veto this as well. I do not disagree with Talaria but I find her argument is lacking in an understanding of what the UN has become. I think that as someone who lives in a Chinese economic colony she should understand this but maybe not. Appreciate the work but it is unrealistic. Keep up the solid work JP.

[@wp9860]

Do I see Trump Tower Moscow in the offing? It will be the biggest, most beautiful, perfect tower in all of Russia, in all of Europe, unmatched by anything the world has ever seen. There will be a 2 year waiting line just to get into it. That's how beautiful it will be. And did I say BIG? It will be huge, huge, huge. I mean Bigly big, big in an enormous way. So big it will take one person a month just to see it all. Gorgeous doesn't even begin to describe its interior, its exterior, the grounds. Believe me when I tell you, people will be talking about how great it is for generations. ... And say buddy, how about a pair of golden sneakers. You look like a fella who could really appreciate a pair. $299, a special price, just for you. Just the thing to get you through the trek it will take to fully explore Trump Tower Moscow. Available today.

[@OldSylvan]

What I don't understand about some of those nations pressuring Ukraine to capitulate is; why? (Since many of them haven't invested much in Ukraine's defense and don't seem to stand to be affected much by the outcome...)

[@kim-ys2fs]

because they have russian influence. Either by social media psychological warfare, thus % of population on russia's side, or russian money buying politicians, such as farage in uk

[@patronspatron7681]

The political pressure from western countries for Ukraine's capitulation is painful to watch. Ukraine should demand NATO membership for any peace agreement pushed by those countries.

[@nas4apps]

Again, you clearly point out who have moral high ground. So clear! Like the UK speech in the Security Council last week. Spot On!! Let the US (again) follow the UK's moral guidance. It is so clear! Thanks!!

[@ericmaclaurin8525]

How about asking anyone who wants negotiations to identify a dollar value for the booty they think Russia should be rewarded with for years of daily crimes against humanity? At least give us a dollars per war crime figure. Make a deal means nothing if you don't identify a price point you think is fair.

[@general-un4gg]

If Sullivan had the brain, the moral and the guts of Ben Hodges, Ukraine had won this war already!

[@I-have-a-brain_and-use-it]

The White House is beholden to Wall St . If it was not for project 2025 they would be 100% behind trump The terrified people are those in pin striped suits sitting around the big velvet covered mahogany tables readjusting future earnings to account for the 5 billion in profits from russia that will not be in next years financials . The US constitution was designed to give the man on the street the appearance of a democracy while business actually controls the government . So it is not Sullivan that is the problem it is needed $ 1,000,000,000 every 4 years to mount an presidential election campaign then finding $ 500,000,000 every 2 years to mount a congressional election campaign . This is the problem What meaning reforms can be done that will show fruits in less than 2 years so you can convince to give your party a second 2 year term in control of the house .

[@johnhare595]

Afternoon JP Greetings troops 👍😊

[@surpriseitsus9622]

Hello John, sorry I'm so late 😊

[@erikjager4704]

Jonathan wouldn't be a good fantasy MLB baseball league player. Seeing the Russian storage from Covert Cabal videos + the corresponding graphs gives the Russians a bleak view. The Covert Cabal graphs with the dates demonstrates that some Covert Cabal videos are somewhat dated. The Russians' artillery situation is more dire than Jonathan believes. The Russians are pulling out about 300 artillery pieces per month. The Russians will run out of workable storage artillery pieces by next April-June. Many of their remaining artillery pieces are garbage or missing barrels. The Russians are running out in storage of BMP 2+decent condition BMP-1 +MT-LB +T-80. The latest Covert Cabal video of the 769 storage base demonstrated the Russians pulling old T-62 tanks and poor condition BMP-1s. Not a great sign for Putin! The Russian ammunition situation is really not that important in the long run. The Russian will be producing millions of artillery shells with no corresponding artillery pieces. The Russian shot approximately 11 million shells the first year with the the corresponding barrel losses.

[@michaelwiwchar3414]

Yes jp 2 subs sunk. 2 different ones.

[@tauceti8341]

3:50 The Queen has yet to come into play though JP And by queen, i mean none other than.... KAMAAAAAALAAAAA HAAAAAAAARIIISSSS (As oprah would say)

[@joostandhisband9648]

Balzs Orban is still pissed off that the allies didn't immediately surrender in WW1 and WW2. Hungary has a solid reputation of choosing the wrong side, no idea what they are doing in the EU and NATO. Maybe they try for a third time from within their enemies.

[@EvzenKovar-i5p]

Sup bois

[@W_Bin]

You are asking Ukraine to do the UN's job. "very strong moral component ...absolutely vital trade hegemony hydrocarbons food National Security cyber warfare in cyber security information security"

[@julilab]

42:52 I've never seen Tim Miller (Bulwark) express so much disgust as in this video, which I watched in full yesterday. ATP doesn't show the part where Trump suddenly rants for minutes about his impeachment while completely ignoring Zelensky standing patiently next to him. Openly or veiledly humiliating others is another typical behavior of the malignant narcissist, along with constant lying. Tim Miller must be a very sane guy to sense Trump's veiled devaluation of Zelensky so strongly.

[@tauceti8341]

26:00 this is what worried me though, its too close and the backfire, it doesnt matter that he was there, or if he was touring every single town in america that produced a whiff of gunpower, republicans no how to slander, and somone who can't and is not allowed to defend themselves (Zelensky) I hope meeting with the twofaced was able to appease, but i'm REALLY worried, and Idk if that can come across why im worried overseas, but its just something as an american, and knowing how they operate, and having to many MAGAT family members, I'm really worried. I hope penssylvanian diaspora can prove me wrong, god willing, so terrified

[@piseag458]

The difference between Kamala and Trump is like night and day,I'm non American but if I was I would be excited to have her as my president.

[@kjmav10135]

I am an American and I feel like my vote for Kamala is a vote for the safety of the whole world. Voting for you, friend. The drip feed approach is largely the result of keeping MAGA at bay and keeping from looking like Biden is a warmonger. If Biden looks like a warmonger, then Trump wins. So, it’s like, freaking difficult. Slava Ukraine.

[@piseag458]

@@kjmav10135 YT filters out my previous reply to you.. trying again just to say thankyou, and yes I can the see the tight rope that needs to be walked and good luck.. rooting for you all,its not just Americas fate that hangs in the balance..heroyam Slava.

[@Paulus8765]

As far as I remember, "Ukraine will win" from Biden is new. There's hope for all who are still on the wrong side of history.

[@clivedunning4317]

'The Donald' doing his homage to his masters a la "The Manchurian Candidate " !

[@clockwork.design]

Cheers JP, every time a post about russia and the UN pops up on Twitter I post the link to your interview with Talaria - people need to know and russia should reapply.

[@ATPGeo]

Thank you

[@fredblogs639]

first

[@markaguilera493]

🥇

[@viggoholmsen7203]

21:45 - Pekka Kallioniemi's post should be mainstreamed in US media. I do like his take on these subjects.

[@genbure9908]

Pekka is just brilliant!!!🇺🇦🔱💙

[@johncromwell2529]

Well done

[@johnwocke5393]

Tim Miller has it spot on.

[@bertoldriesenteil1430]

As much as I hate to say this, despite JP's critique of Trump as a dithering nincompoop, Trump is repeating the same things that got him elected once before. He has obviously been told to do that. Politics is similar to boxing or football. Never change a winning team. God forbid, it could even work.

[@ATPGeo]

I'm not sure he knows any other way. I think he gets told things but reverts to the only thing he can do. I was listening to an analysis the other day that came to this conclusion.

[@cocobue]

Jonathan - How do we connect/find that UN info you referred? And, pls list non-profit again, again saying what it benefits, or don't you care?!?

[@ATPGeo]

I'll add it

[@KevinForst-n2t]

Also, from the Hill today........Bolton on US support for Ukraine: ‘If Trump wins, I think it’s toast’. This is Trumps former national security adviser. I think he might know more than "Lars" .

[@cocobue]

Jonathan, thank you for reading our comments and info!!! Any way you could check out E Musk/Starlink connection help for Russian drones/missiles? I've asked my U.S. adm to check this out. Also, what happened re Russian ship by Britain, planned to be there or crazy talk? I had prev comment, sorry so much.

[@hihikats]

@JP I know you shared a comparison video previously but I believe this is the best yet. Easy deep dive comparing Trump : Harris on the Ukraine Situation. Simply brilliantly done : kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3uugGqKmbSDqZIfeature=shared

[@marklandwehr7604]

Jonathan, this is another excellent report.Please keep on reporting on American politics You're spot on Again

[@ATPGeo]

Thanks

[@viggoholmsen7203]

41:50 - DJT's responses were perfunctory and noncommittal. No condemnation of Russia, just a desire to end the war and get back to business. Actually, there was no movement in his position, only in the words he used in the moment. He'll be back to his usual rants tomorrow.

[@GordonKING-ew5gx]

Hi JP I hope you had a great birth day ,re TIM MILLER I have followed the bulwark ,MTN for well over a year and that particular presentation Tim Miller made was the most emotive I have seen him , the rage was viscerally heart felt ,Trump has no shame or morality, JP please there is no benefit of doubt re lack of info from sycophants he is pure evil.

[@petrikehusmaa7909]

Slava Ukraini Heroyam Slava💪💪🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇫🇮👍👍

[@jeanettebrannstrom2320]

Im so frustrating with my government in Sweden, yes we have don a lot for our size but i would have hope that they would close the Boltic Sea with Denmark, russia gets to much money that way 🤬

[@StretchMedia]

@10:50 This discussion was going around a couple of months ago, maybe more. I remember it and talking about it, but no one was either picking it up or pushing it.

[@camillamattsson7235]

It make me so fucking angry this negotiationtalk. Why dont they understand this is posible let russia winn enything

[@aaronlea9559]

Quite like a hot Jon! 🔥💪👍

[@tauceti8341]

39:00 lmfao that does my nut it, blimey, haven't heard this one before 😂

[@Ivan_Headropov]

Hi JP. Nice that Ukraine will still control the gas pipelines through to Hungary and Slovakia regardless of where the line of control is made. I would happily stuff those two countries by charging exorbitant transit fees to help pay for the rebuild

[@tauceti8341]

33:00 here here, this is why im british haha (at heart -- love your anacrhonisms)

[@bertoldriesenteil1430]

"You are a person who does not believe that the future of a nation should be decided by that nation....I don't want to interact with you". Does that apply to Brexit too JP? 😂.

[@ATPGeo]

Brexit is a funny thing. So much misinformation and disinformation. Sketchy majority against and now 8 years later a larger majority for staying in

[@piseag458]

A dysfunctional UN no question, it's long overdue an overhaul for today's world.

[@bertoldriesenteil1430]

Ben Hodges too only mentions strategic interests versus charity. Why has everybody forgotten the third option which is that helping Ukraine is a frigin moral obligation because we promised to defend them if they would decomision their nukes.

[@damarcusowens5511]

a promise made 30 years ago by a president and only the president at the time who isn’t even in office anymore.

[@bertoldriesenteil1430]

@@damarcusowens5511 The president represents the state. It is irrelevant whether the president "is still in office" or not. The US state still exists and must keep its word. Otherwise its words are as unreliable as those of Russia. Which country would give up nuclear weapons four years only, the length of a presidential term. Come on.

[@toaster2400]

Great video. Just a small correction the philosopher you are referring to Slavoj Žižek is Slovenian

[@ATPGeo]

Dang

[@toaster2400]

​@@ATPGeo😊 its so similar

[@alandoherty5237]

Thank you for all your great work and for the information provided by your good self keep smiling and be happy Glory to Ukraine Victory Glory to Ukraine Slava Ukraine pryvit

[@bertoldriesenteil1430]

Did Orban visit Trump in his capacity as Trump's chum, as the president of Hungary or as President of the EU something or other?

[@andrewplowman1002]

Thank you

[@daveschannel2754]

Thanks JP

[@GooseSpringsteen]

Thanks for another great video JP. Although I must say the idea that Russia can be kicked off the UN Security Council seems fanciful regardless of the purely factual legalistic merits of the argument. It just seems like wishful thinking that ignores all the non-legalistic soft factors that have led to the current state of affairs being unchallenged since the collapse of the USSR. It feels comparable to when people dig up obscure medieval laws that suggest an Englishman can shoot a Welshman with a longbow within the walls of Chester after midnight. You wouldn't do that an expect to get away with murder. What's true in law and true in reality are often very different. I don't meant to sound flippant as I know the idea is rooted in sound reasoning but it's also completely detatched from reality. I don't think any of the other permanent members would want to see any movement on membership of the permanent security council as it would inevitably lead to questions like why are the UK or France still on there? Moreover, why would China want that? As much as they are no true lovers of Russia it's useful to have another non-western aligned autocracy to vote with them. I think as long as Russia has a massive nuclear arsenal any NATO or other Western aligned policy towards Russia will be more cautious and conciliatory than we would like and will make any true justice for the war dependent on future Russian governments being incentivised to hand over war criminals or fund rebuilding efforts. True consequences in international law only apply to weak nations. It's the same reason why the US would never have to fear any consequences for Iraq or China for its treatment of Tibet or the Uygurs.

[@stepsvideos]

Johnathan, just a quick note. There's a lot of weeds in this presentation. I realize that it's your passion, and you do it well, but I am questioning if, at this point in the war, some points about the situation deserve more focus than, for example, Zelensky's visit to the arms factory, and Erdogan's visit with Trump. What struck me, as most in need of attention, was the assertion that both Ukraine and Russia have reached their limit, implying this might be a good time for peace talks. I have a couple of questions about this: 1) Why is aid to Ukraine throttled, to permanently keep them operating at the end of their tether? 2) It's been mentioned that Russia has only enough resources to keep it going till the middle of next year. Why now, is Ukraine being pushed into what is likely to end up in a disadvantageous compromise? 3) (of 2 :) I'm no economist, but if Russia counts the production of arms as GDP, then shouldn't they subtract from GDP when those same arms are destroyed in Ukraine? It seems to me that it's also Ukraine's allies that have reached a point of exhaustion, right at the point where the most appropriate action, for success, would be a final push in both assistance and encouragement. I realize that whatever is going on now, is being pushed as 'Zelensky's peace plan'. However, maybe he is only in this position because he feels that there's almost a complete lack of will, not only to supply the quantity of support needed for success, but even uncertainty over it's continuation.

[@carolwilliams8511]

Sorry.I cannot listen to Trump's dozy, offensive voice. Have to leave this one. Please mute him and just tell us what he said in future.

[@NicholasLynn-n9z]

@26:00 this is called power of the incumbency. It is like if Kamala visiting Hurricane Helene damage.

[@quantumeseboy]

How much more revealing can Hungary get?? Is there any ambiguity about Hungary still?

[@viggoholmsen7203]

31:00 - It is an important step that most leaders now have changed their rhetoric to Ukraine's being victorious in the war against Russia. Most only think of positioning before inevitable peace talks. Very few are discussing what a defeat would mean for Russia going forward. I have a lot of opinions on that particular subject, but I'll leave them for another time.

[@carolwilliams8511]

Brand has been nuts since the Covid pandemic. A conspiracy theorist through and through.

[@bertoldriesenteil1430]

"Double standards" permeate politics. Putin is the best example. Don't be so surprised and angry about it when it happens.

[@jeanettebrannstrom2320]

Please JP, try to talk with Jake Broe about the UN, it really needs to inform the US citizens, I hate to say it but the US has to much control over the European countries, I belive that the US needs to be the one to push russia out of UN

[@bertoldriesenteil1430]

JP expects Trump to say things in a cogent way but the people who are likely to vote for him don't listen in a cogent way.

[@eddieR-yy3sy]

Some people will do/say anything to put themselves into the Limelight, even if they are being offensive or controversial.

[@hugokappes4077]

with those eight pillars,,, it seems like all those things they want to fight against are exactly what they actually want to bring about but under their control,,

[@Nick-pq4ri]

There are many nuances in Harris’s statement one of which was using the term’Prevail’ as in win Biden I don’t recall ever saying that

[@darrencorrigan8505]

Has Ukraine ever declared an open city. If a city is an open city, does that exempt it fo shelling if there is resistance leading up to it?

[@bevr944]

They are looking at Russia as the bigger market for their business interests and the greater money they will be able to make for themselves.

[@penandpike]

Thank you for standing for Liberty, Justice, Democracy and Truth!

[@vonries]

Ukraine also has a bunch of minerals that we are interested in having access to.

[@jeanettebrannstrom2320]

The US has really become a bisarr country 😢

[@thepirate6211]

Can a country be kicked out of NATO?

[@bobrichards6696]

Good morning all 👍🏻🇦🇺🇺🇦🌻

[@surpriseitsus9622]

Hi Bob, it's 10:45 pm, I'm quite late. ❤😊

[@bobrichards6696]

@@surpriseitsus9622 Hi Lynn, 1350 here, you have a good night 😴❤️

[@bertoldriesenteil1430]

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't JP fail to comment on Georgia Meloni's speech at the Citizens' Awards, where she was presented her award by Elon Musk? I am still trying to 'digest' what she said, as she ist far right. But many of the things that she said echo what JP says. Particularly her pro-ukrainianism. I would like to hear JP's take on her speech. If could help untangle some of the confusion in my head. She is definitely on a collision course with Trump and Orban.

[@ATPGeo]

Um. Literally in today's video.

[@iainlyall6475]

@38:24 kamala is almost' reminding me of margaret

[@MrPaulfinan]

Hi JP, it's -ing nuclear, not nucular, I know it's a bit petty, but it really gets on my thruppenies! Apart from that, great job 😀🇺🇦

[@ATPGeo]

I don't say nucular though it may sound like it. I say nukeliuh, which is neither nuclear nor nucular...

[@doktorgriff]

Russian economy=Ouroboros

[@MarkloopRAF]

Hehe, Tory Starmer being shouted out as MP quits party. "The sleaze, nepotism and apparent avarice are off the scale. I am so ashamed of what you and your inner circle have done to tarnish and humiliate our once proud party.". Might as well get the bad news in early eh?

[@harold22774]

I don't support labour one bit But don't try and make out that the Labour party are worse than the Tories. How many millions were handed out to friends of the Tories during covid.when Labour surpass that come back and make your point

[@ATPGeo]

Johnson took 6.2 million in gifts

[@MarkloopRAF]

@@ATPGeo So that makes it fine then?

[@MarkloopRAF]

@@ATPGeo Russia commits war crimes, so Ukraine can as well?

[@harold22774]

@@MarkloopRAF are you an idiot or a troll

[@DavidIacono]

All the best to you JP!

[@Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma]

Wow, I haven't been here for a while and I see you've created a pretty perfect echo chamber on your channel. Good for you, J! So much for being unbiased and objective. This is coming from a person that is both supporting Israel and Ukraine against aggression. This is coming from a person that is slightly right of political center. And yet, I can't stand people like you.

[@ATPGeo]

I'm not sure what the point of your comment is.

[@Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma]

@@ATPGeo I'm just 'venting' my feelings. Sorry about that. There are some things that I can't understand about the world. Things that seem obvious to me and yet a lot of people struggle to see them as they are. Is it a matter of moral compass or intelligence? I don't know. Goodbye.

[@FXChuck98]

One final comment: by any and every objective measure, Jordan Peterson mopped the floor with Zizek. Zizek conceded most of Peterson's critique of The Communist Manifesto, and fell back to making his critiques of capitalism, which were mostly anecdotal and had been largely corrected via regulations and tax policies. It was an unfair fight, and Peterson was heads and shoulders the better intellect in this debate. Zizek looked at times, foolish, and anyone who thinks otherwise is equally foolish.

[@ATPGeo]

Have you seen the many critiques of Peterson on Marxism on KZbin. He's been taken to pieces a number of times.

[@FXChuck98]

@ATPGeo I have seen the critiques of Peterson, and none of those people would last 30 seconds in an actual drbate with him. Again, I watched the debate with Zezik, who is an expert on Communism and Marxism, and Peterson destroyed him, using critical thinking and objective facts. It wasn't close. But I would not be surprised if someone ignored the actual debate, and instead formed their opinion of Peterson by watching a video of an uninvolved observer who makes assumptions and uses poor logic in critiquing Peterson. Anyone who defends communism and Marxism must be prepared to defend hundreds of millions of dead people left in their wake.

[@timmommens901]

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[@SW-ok8qr]

Chess analogy doesnt work!! FFS, there is shit loads of resources avsilable for Ukraine. The issue is politicsl. I thought you would know better

[@ATPGeo]

? Er, this was a chronological analogy. Well done for being both patronizing and wrong

[@SW-ok8qr]

@@ATPGeo admit when yr wrong. Clearly Ukraine (and west) Vr Russia didnt start out with equal resources. It doesnt matter when the chess game began. The resources (chess pieces) are NOT set. Maybe youre having a bad day?

[@iondarwish895]

Sir Keir Starmer has made an unfortunate slip-up at the Labour conference, calling for the return of the "sausages" from Gaza generating a lot of memes with this subject. A joker posted some raw footage of some Gaza hotheads gathering with the whole shebang of Palestine flags, keffiyeh scarves and some Lebanon flags for good measure and found the perfect click bait title "Multiple yobs arrested at "Free the Sausages" protest.

[@harold22774]

Tumbleweed rolls past

[@WT_Door]

Jonathan - I realize that the Russia/UN thing is a pet peeve of yours. I think this "issue" is a waste of time. If it was going to be an issue it should have been done decades ago. If Russia retaining membership and the permanent seat on the UNSC was a condition required for them to allow the peaceful (relatively) dismantlement of their empire I am sure it would have been granted. A hypothetical - if the devolution of the USSR into Russia and it's former vassal states were to result in a sharing of the USSR's permanent seat amongst Russia and the states replacing the former SSRs, what should be done about the permanent seat currently held by the UK? Should the UK share this seat with India, and the former empire holdings in Africa, the Caribbean, etc? And the same question for France. Again, I think this discussion is a waste of time.

[@bertoldriesenteil1430]

Strange isn't it. JP says in relation to Russia "whacking all their money into building tanks is not a sign of a healthy economy", but when it comes to american arms being produced for Ukraine he never gets tired of telling us how that stimulates the american economy. You can't have it both ways. Incidentaly, I am all for giving arms to Ukraine irrespective as to whether it stimulates our economies. That shouldn't be a condition. If you convince a country to scrap the best deterant that it could possibly have and replace it with security guarantees then you are moraly obliged to help them if push comes to shove. That is a debt that we owe Ukraine, not a transaction with them. So it is a national debt that no US political faction can afford to default on if they want to morally save face in the history books and respect that american pledge. It is primarily a question of honour and indebtedness and only secondarily one of "strategic interests". 'Free meals'/charity or cost-benefit considerations are irrelevant.

[@ATPGeo]

You've straw manned me. The US is not whacking all their money into defense production. Not even remotely close. Invalid.

[@kim-ys2fs]

one key difference i can think of on the spot is that russia has at least 5million worker shortage in the other sectors of their economy, whereas usa's economy is diverse, well-rounded (as any investment portfolio should be to succeed) putin is puttin all his financial eggs in 2 baskets -military and fossil fuels, then add in 19% inflation, selling off half it's reserves summer 2023 just to keep the economy afloat and then this year switching to a war economy. there is also the wage inflation spiral because of attracting russians to the frontlines

[@bertoldriesenteil1430]

​​@@kim-ys2fsI suppose all that is true or valid, but I wasn't commenting on the relative 'health' of the two economies, Russian and US. I was commenting on JPs logic or argumentation which I consider inconsistent.

[@bertoldriesenteil1430]

​​@@ATPGeoI didn't say that the "US is whacking all its money into defence production".

[@kim-ys2fs]

@@bertoldriesenteil1430 i was explaining why i dont see JPs logic as inconsistent. the things i mentioned are some of the key differences as to why it is good for america but bad for russia to be putting money into the military industrial sector, does that make sense?

[@jamieallen3083]

Jonathan if Ukraine is so important then why didn't we help Belarus win their people protested and they got screwed on their elections all the national interests you said Belarus has the same. How would it hurt our national interest if Ukraine became another Belarus. You're right about the oil in the Middle East there's nothing in Ukraine worth hundreds of billions of dollars

[@harold22774]

That's were you are wrong. Recent geological surveys estimate that there is trillions of dollars on bauxite gas and oil in Crimea and the dombas

[@ATPGeo]

There are HUGE amounts of investment valuable mineral deposits etc

[@kim-ys2fs]

plus ukraine has some of the most fertile 'black soil' in the world, not only is it a key global food exporter already, as climate change causes increased weather pattern changes, food production will reduce. UK lost something like 20% of its food production one summer, i BELIEVE it was 2018, but if not, it was since 2018, cos thats the year i did a deep dive wondering WTF extinction rebellion was all about n looking into their claims via scientific papers. And ive kept mostly up to date since. Scarily, i also learnt via scientific american that same year that uk has approx 30-40yrs of harvests left in it's soil unless agricultural industrial process stopped and we start focusing on adding back to the soil (restorative ag) n that this was a global trend. you've also got the wealthiest people in the world buying up vast tracts of fertile land (bill gates?) So 'elites' are already very conscious of future food insecurity issues for current 'food prosperous' regions of the world

[@jamieallen3083]

@@ATPGeo you are correct on those two points Jonathan but the United States needs a thing is it worth going against the other nuclear power in the world for those minerals and investments there are minerals and investments in other parts of the world that are a lot easier to get. Political speaking. I know you see me here on the comments all the time I'm not a Russian troll I'm just a realist trying to look at it from all points of view. Silicone curtain just had a interview with two gentlemen the one gentleman lives in Ukraine and I think his point of view is one of the best and most realistic I've ever heard

[@FXChuck98]

Jonathan, you have misread the current political situation in the US regarding support for the war in Ukraine. First, President Biden's comments in his press summary of his meeting with Zelenskyy, were very supportive, going so far as to support Ukraine's efforts for a victory over Russia. However, the $8billion aid package, which only provides an additional $2billion in military aid, supports Ukraine for, maybe, the last few months of Biden's presidency. VP Harris, however, was far less supportive of "victory", instead voicing support for a lasting peace, and then some mumbo jumbo about a just and lasting peace that the Ukrainian people will support. That is not equal to victory. She is clearly looking for an exit ramp in terms of US policy (just like everyone in the EU and Nato. President Trump says the quiet part out loud, which is that he will find a peace deal with Putin and impose it on Ukraine (eg, take this deal or fight alone). Trumps approach is exactly what Harris will do; it's just she won't sat it out loud. The net of Zelenskyy's trip to the US is: he failed to get long-range targeting support from the US, his Victory Plan is dead in the water (was it really a plan?), and he angered the Republicans in the US House which will not help his cause next year when he comes back for more money. While the war is not over, it is now entering its conclusion phase, which might include The Zelenskyy family shopping for a nice townhouse in London or Paris. Let's hope that by this time next year, no more Ukrainian or Russian kids are being killed to feed Putin's ego or your lust for Putin's blood.

[@ATPGeo]

I'm hoping that a new administration will push for further aid and a better approach

[@piseag458]

poor old Putin,just trying to please the Russian people and make the world a better place.