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Diagnosing a Misfire & Lower Power on 2018 Honda Accord 1.5 Turbocharged Engine P0304

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@ThomasWJames
@ThomasWJames 5 ай бұрын
2018 Honda Accord EX-L 1.5 73,300 miles. Just came back from the dealer. Started with christmas tree lights (every warning light) going off in the car. Thought it was a bad battery, bought a battery wasn't that. Misfire on cylinder 3. Blown head gasket with a possible leak or deformed engine. They recommend buying a new engine at a cost of around $10,000.00. Went down an internet rabbit hole and it seems that the problem is quite major with thousands of posts all over the internet. The problem is believed to be making the engine more emissions-friendly to deal with government ratings; what they didn't foresee was the gaskets couldn't take the pressure. I contacted Honda GoodWill and seeing what they say, I'm not holding my breath. I've owned 1998 Honda Civic, 2009 Honda Civic, 2013 Honda Accord, 2016 Honda Accord, and 2018 Honda Accord...it's looking like this will be my families FINAL Honda.
@gooe9561
@gooe9561 2 жыл бұрын
I work at a Honda dealership. Injectors get replaced at an alarming rate. The manufacturer has a workflow of parts replacements in their troubleshooting. I am literally the first technician at this dealership to own and use a Picoscope. My test for misfires allows me to observe all of the things you have done in this video. One thing I would like to suggest is that you can capture high pressure fuel system sensor voltage and monitor fuel pressure drops during normal injector activity and compare among cylinders. You don't need to open the fuel system up at all and you can do this while the vehicle is running.
@thomasengel1459
@thomasengel1459 2 жыл бұрын
Should I stay away from these 1.5t engines? It’s time to buy a new car, but my 2012 Si with 160,000 miles, k24 engine has never had a single issue and I’m scared of these new ones.
@gooe9561
@gooe9561 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasengel1459 That's a good car. Why do you need to replace it?
@thomasengel1459
@thomasengel1459 2 жыл бұрын
@@gooe9561 i guess I don’t NEED to. But that new integra looks nice. But if that 1.5t is shit I won’t do it.
@gooe9561
@gooe9561 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasengel1459 You do you but I don't think they're great. Injector problems, massive carbon issues in the intakes and on the intake valves. Fuel injector problems that repeat themselves. And we still haven't really had a chance to test the longevity of the turbos themselves.
@maxud28
@maxud28 2 жыл бұрын
​ @GooE Can you please provide you workflow test procedure. I have an advance scanner and scope, but don't have ability to flow test these GDI injectors. Got a 2018 Honda Accord 1.5L with P0301. Its a slight miss at this point, don't have carbon trace.
@abraham_--7020
@abraham_--7020 3 жыл бұрын
That what happen to my 18 accord sport . All the lights came up on my dash like a Christmas tree . Took it to the dealer and they wanted 4K to replace the injectors . My accord barely hit 60k miles and was out warranty . So I bought the injectors from the Honda parts department and had them replaced and it fixed my issues . Sold the car right away . The car also let me stranded multiple times in the freeway when it had that problem . The car would just shut off .
@waltersantiago9522
@waltersantiago9522 2 жыл бұрын
I just had the same issue!!!
@ericwanyonyi2445
@ericwanyonyi2445 2 жыл бұрын
@@waltersantiago9522 What kind of fuel were you running? Were you doing short distance or highway miles?
@txmoney
@txmoney 2 жыл бұрын
My 2018 Civic EX-T recently had the fuel injectors cleaned just as routine maintenance at 77,000 miles. I’ve also replaced the spark plugs at 68,000 miles.I’ve never experienced any misfires but better safe than sorry. Car drives as smooth at 88,300 miles as when I drove it new.
@AJ-we9kd
@AJ-we9kd 2 жыл бұрын
100,000 miles and I’ve never done anything except inspect my plugs and cylinder. Quality fuel should be all you need to keep your injectors misting.
@sabertoothduck
@sabertoothduck Жыл бұрын
@@AJ-we9kd it seems like that under normal driving and maintenance a person should use injector clearner every 2500 or 5000 miles. This just seems like cheap $10 insurance to maintain your engine
@blackhawks1870
@blackhawks1870 5 ай бұрын
How much you paid for that service?
@danielbellucci630
@danielbellucci630 3 жыл бұрын
Very Nice. you are a true good school technical Mechanic, not a replace parts change oil guy.
@anthonymoore8480
@anthonymoore8480 5 ай бұрын
You are the best!!! The dealership wanted to charge my customer $500 to replace the new spark plugs and Ignition coils that were only a day old. They told her that they were not of good quality, and that might be the problem. When I suspected all along that it was the fuel injectors. But she was out of town when it set the misfire codes. So, I wasn't able to check it for her. You gave an excellent tutorial!!! Much appreciated, you are the best.💯 Thanks😊 Happy Easter 😇🙏
@johnnymade8426
@johnnymade8426 2 жыл бұрын
My 2018 Accord 1.5T just had a fuel injector fail at 58k error code P0172 (posted on my channel). Modern Honda look amazing but once the 3yr/36k warranty expires you're on your own and you have no idea how expensive modern Honda engines are to fix. Oil changed at 80%, Shell regular used 80% of the time, always did warm up the car in the winter. Dealer so out of touch they recommended brake fluid replacement at 30k. I've never seen this part fail in ANY of my past cars. When asked why the injector failed so early Dealer said they see them all the time and cost of replacement is $1600-$2500 (must replace all 4) and the new injectors warranty is only for 12k/12mos! I was in love and bought the 1st Accord on the lot with series ending in -0001 but when I made a case with Honda to see if it could be part of a bad batch all I got was the VM of the case manager for weeks on end. I fell for all the influencers stating this Accord was the best in it's class.
@bkoz319
@bkoz319 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the in depth testing. wish the auto shops actually did this kind of testing
@Int3rn3tThug
@Int3rn3tThug Жыл бұрын
they would if you were willing to pay for it
@tjmhlw
@tjmhlw 3 жыл бұрын
Bernie talk I listen I learn
@scientist100
@scientist100 3 жыл бұрын
If nothing had been replaced, any shop would have not caught this unless it was fixed temporarily and returned, then we would have looked elsewhere for the real problem. The same can be said why were the injectors dirty to begin with? Bernie may have solved half the puzzle but it is possible that the fuel is dirty or filter, he got consistent numbers when pressurizing but it could be a low pressure number for this GDI system. Cars can be complicated sometimes.
@christleydacosta4747
@christleydacosta4747 2 жыл бұрын
You good at this man so much knowledge, I'm fixing car for years but this is too deep for me I'm lost along the way I have to replaying the video thanks a lot .👌
@YoungHKim-dk3rg
@YoungHKim-dk3rg 3 жыл бұрын
haha, GDI turbo charged is something Scotty was ALWAYS against. 2017 and below Accord without turbo NEVER had these kind of problems.
@baxrok2.
@baxrok2. 3 жыл бұрын
Methodical approach along with a clear explanation. Thanks!
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome diag and scientific explanation, Bernie! What happened to Honda and Toyota...they used to make reliable cars that lasted for decades. Now a 3-year old Honda is having major drivability issues haha
@paquesepas6696
@paquesepas6696 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the toyota direct and port injected combo engines? I'm in the market for a new car but with honda and their turbos and Toyota with their combo engines and bad fuel pumps im on hold for a while lol.
@benagardi
@benagardi 3 жыл бұрын
Get a tesla
@Vv20vV
@Vv20vV 2 жыл бұрын
@@benagardi those are the worst out of those 3 hahaha
@JohnS-il1dr
@JohnS-il1dr 8 ай бұрын
​@@paquesepas6696go with Mazda as they use traditional automatic transmissions with no turbos or oil dilution issues
@paquesepas6696
@paquesepas6696 8 ай бұрын
@JohnS-il1dr always had a honda or toyota so going to Mazda would be a big step don't know if I could do it
@kennedysgarage3281
@kennedysgarage3281 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Bernie this video really highlights the power of the ATS scan tool & scope. Awesome you kept going, I really do admire your knowledge 👏👏👍
@oc91five
@oc91five Жыл бұрын
2017 Civic Hatchback Sport CVT. 191,000 miles troubled free on original spark plugs. Amsoil signature series, 91 octane always used, on 4th set of tires currently. Honda makes great cars, these engines need 91 octane and oil changed every 5,000 miles.
@pizzaloverfpsdude
@pizzaloverfpsdude Жыл бұрын
91 octane..... no they don't. If it's a sport model, it recommends it to meet the advertised HP but it adjusts the timings to prevent knocking if you put 87 in. Most of the models tell you 87 is recommended. You lose at most 6 - 8 HP by not using 91. If you drive an Si.... maybe you can justify it a little more (barely) but with a Type R yes... then you should use high octane. Civics and Accords are low HP, are you seriously coming on here pretending you know anything about cars because yours has lasted 191,000 because you used 91? No... in fact those spark plugs should have been replaced 1000s of miles ago and would cost far less then the extra cash you spent on 91 gas.... The oil at 5k yes, you are right there. Fuel injector cleaner every oil change at your next gas fill up is how you keep the injectors clean... not wasting money on 91/93 every fill up on a fuel efficient car lol.... High octane is for high horse power, do some research.
@oc91five
@oc91five Жыл бұрын
I'm not a certified mechanic, I do know how to read instructions. I recently changed out the plugs at 196,191. They look good. These 1.5L turbos need 91. I have not had any fuel injector issues. Yet....
@Alex-jm6fk
@Alex-jm6fk 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is pure gold
@arthurfricchione8119
@arthurfricchione8119 3 жыл бұрын
Bernie,terrific video and troubleshooting. I have been taking your classes Mr.G and have recently joined ATS. I’m a retired aircraft mechanic jumping into a new field and your company and videos are very informative. Is the eScope and scanner all on one tablet or are they separate? This was very informative. Thank You and stay safe and well Artie 😊
@brentowen9480
@brentowen9480 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty certain they're 1 tablet 2 programs.
@RaDoubleD4
@RaDoubleD4 3 жыл бұрын
Holy cow, just got taken to school by this guy
@brianatlafarge50
@brianatlafarge50 2 ай бұрын
This is diagnostics mastery thank you For your tutorial
@DependableAutoTruck
@DependableAutoTruck 3 жыл бұрын
a lot of us only have 2 channel scopes we all wish we could have 8 channel wish you would show some ways to work with what we have until we can afford better equiptment like me i have a vantage legend good tool but limited. if i could afford would have your escann and escope 8 but have to work with what i have thanks for all your hard work and effort a great help to me thanks again
@glennallen7129
@glennallen7129 3 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain. Me too have the vantage ultra
@73bigguy
@73bigguy 3 жыл бұрын
He's trying to sell you their products as much as he's showing how to use them so showing you how to "get by" with your setup doesn't sell more units for them.
@JLsAutoSolution
@JLsAutoSolution 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could do some mobile work with you. Unparalleled knowledge. Thanks for. Sharing.
@petar443
@petar443 3 жыл бұрын
Injector 4 is flowing more fuel and making rich condition. Fuel is taken away and 1,2,3 goes lean. 2 and 3 have better flow than 1 . But 1 has very poor flow and is going extremely lean judging by the ignition waveform. This car needs advanced diagnostic approach. The DTC for cyl 4 is based on crankshaft speed not going fast enough after power stroke on cyl 4 and ECU is seeing this through the Crank sensor. but still i don't know why there's carbon track on spark plug for cyl 4. since this is rich cylinder. Maybe before the DTC was for cyl 1 and mechanic swapped spark plugs. And put carbon track plug from 1 to 4. And then the original plug from 4 got carbon track also because of severely lean cyl 1.
@alrifainidal
@alrifainidal 3 жыл бұрын
i agree with you ,
@keenxxx1
@keenxxx1 3 жыл бұрын
I understand the misfire code generated by the carbon tracked plug what I don’t understand is the scoped lean condition and the normal fuel trims. I’d be curious to see how the car runs w/ just the plugs replaced. If a single injector is flowing more or less fuel shouldn’t the O2 report & adjust the fuel trims? Nice tool but honestly how many techs take a test drive w/ a scope?
@Lambros_Stefaneas
@Lambros_Stefaneas 3 жыл бұрын
@@keenxxx1 no one.
@gooe9561
@gooe9561 2 жыл бұрын
Lean doesn't mean not enough fuel. Lean means too much oxygen in the exhaust stream. Fuel that flows at the proper rate, but doesn't atomize properly, can show a lean condition simply due to incomplete combustion.
@Dalesadventureandtravel
@Dalesadventureandtravel 3 жыл бұрын
My 18 Accord just the same problem, with on 43k miles. All 4 injector were replaced. Only got the car back today🤞🤞.
@ralphthepigeon
@ralphthepigeon 3 жыл бұрын
What exactly was the issue?
@Slippery413
@Slippery413 3 жыл бұрын
These new accords suck. My 2021 just broke down on me after 2 months of having it. All lights on dash came on with warning too see dealer
@sixpackvolleyball83
@sixpackvolleyball83 2 жыл бұрын
How much was the cost to replace?
@victordelangel9165
@victordelangel9165 Жыл бұрын
Sure did learn something new, and this information will definitely help me out with the similar issue on a 2018 accord that just got dropped off. As you mentioned they have change plugs and coils to get the issue right back after a few days. Definitely would want to take some classes from you.
@KingTuroYT
@KingTuroYT 8 ай бұрын
Did it go away after changing the spark plugs and coils?
@patm95
@patm95 2 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to have seen the repair.
@IKhanNot
@IKhanNot 2 жыл бұрын
This tech is very thorough.
@gregjones8501
@gregjones8501 3 жыл бұрын
Bernie fixed it again! 😎🔥
@chriatiano749
@chriatiano749 2 жыл бұрын
Fuel injectors on this vehicle are warranty covered for 150x miles at the dealership
@Mr.Front9
@Mr.Front9 Жыл бұрын
Doubt it
@urbanbarbe
@urbanbarbe Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Front9i just had mine changed, a month ago. they’re right
@geraldseely2203
@geraldseely2203 3 жыл бұрын
My 2018 Accord 45K on it started with a slight miss fire when cold then every dash light came ABS TPMS and all safety features stopped working. After several trips to the dealership it needed all the injections replaced. Honda paid for 80 percent of it. I think I could see all the warnings lights lit on this car too. But yes you are on top of your game, congrats.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 3 жыл бұрын
GDI engines are garbage in terms of reliability and longevity and ease of repair. But they have good economy and power for the first 30k miles! :)
@paquesepas6696
@paquesepas6696 3 жыл бұрын
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics is the gdi only on hondas turbo engines or is it also on their 2 liter engines?
@susytan8037
@susytan8037 3 жыл бұрын
My 2018 Accord now is having the same issue. Is your car still under warranty? Mine is not so would have to paid the whole amount 😕 What is the total cost for the repair? TIA!
@geraldseely2203
@geraldseely2203 3 жыл бұрын
Mine was out of warranty 45k on it. Honda picked up 75 percent of the tab. My share was $250
@Slippery413
@Slippery413 3 жыл бұрын
My 2021 seems to have the same problem. Shut off on the highway and every dash light came on. Only 2 months old smh
@ericwanyonyi2445
@ericwanyonyi2445 2 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a new lx with 15 miles. Watching that space.
@autotechtogo6290
@autotechtogo6290 3 жыл бұрын
Judging by the high spark line we know there is a lean condition. It's probably safe to say the injectors are restricted. But why was the vehicle subtracting fuel? Usually with a restricted injector the fuel trims will be positive.
@2secondslater
@2secondslater 3 жыл бұрын
An poor combustion event will flood the exhaust with unburnt fuel and crowd the O2 out of the exhaust, tricking the ECU into reducing fuel, you just have to remember that O2 sensors are measuring the absence or presence of oxygen. The ECU will reduce fueling to try to bring O2 levels back up.
@luismarty1685
@luismarty1685 Жыл бұрын
You are exceptional, sir, but not everybody owns the labscope/scanner you use.
@roxanneabbott8424
@roxanneabbott8424 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, love watching you, its fascinating!!
@jasonnicholson508
@jasonnicholson508 4 ай бұрын
I wish I had you around to teach me! I had this issue in my 2018 accord about a year ago and had honda replace fuel injectors and coils and a few other parts ( I had to do plugs) but a year later I can feel the car starting to lose power and after the 1st time around I know all the signs EVERYTHING I went through for months and all the research I did to figure it out TELLS me these symptoms are arising again.I need Help good sir and a true technician master mechanic like yourself. I worked hard for this car and i commute i need this car to last..What state are you located in?
@jasonnicholson508
@jasonnicholson508 4 ай бұрын
A year later injectors failing again, how "normal" is this??
@gmtech2012
@gmtech2012 5 ай бұрын
If the cylinders really are lean then why isn't the fuel trim showing lean? His numbers on the fuel trim test were all green and low
@northernpatriot9078
@northernpatriot9078 3 жыл бұрын
what up burny burn love your instruction sir keep it coming huaaah you read those waveforms like your surfing a wave
@angelgama1981
@angelgama1981 3 жыл бұрын
I have this issue on cylinder one my small cheap computer showing misfire on cylinder number one
@morenotrece881
@morenotrece881 2 жыл бұрын
Bad ass mechanic!!!💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
@IAMNOSLEEP
@IAMNOSLEEP 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Bernie... Cheers.
@phillypar6481
@phillypar6481 3 жыл бұрын
Great and well done. Thank you.
@angelrivera-fx1yp
@angelrivera-fx1yp 3 ай бұрын
The first thing I would have done is open the hood take the dipstick out for fuel smell in the oil and then run your test replace injectors replace spark plugs change the oil
@Iegend17
@Iegend17 3 жыл бұрын
My 2.0t was misfiring at 48k miles. Changed them and I have a video on my channel how to change the sparks
@saulmiranda8988
@saulmiranda8988 2 жыл бұрын
So all the lights came on. How much was the plugs?
@Babyjokers2.0t
@Babyjokers2.0t 2 жыл бұрын
How did it feel when you were driving. I have an issue where my car missfires on startup for a bit, like my knock count goes to like 11, then when I drive it will randomly spike to 36, but other than that it drives normal-ish, I wonder if it's the injectors
@Iegend17
@Iegend17 2 жыл бұрын
@@Babyjokers2.0t that’s the fuel pump. There is a recall
@Babyjokers2.0t
@Babyjokers2.0t 2 жыл бұрын
@@Iegend17 high pressure or low pressure fuel pump?
@Iegend17
@Iegend17 2 жыл бұрын
@@Babyjokers2.0t bruh wtf lol. I am done answering questions
@rodjackxiel
@rodjackxiel 2 жыл бұрын
So .. Is a recall from the manufacturer
@alexlongpre4527
@alexlongpre4527 3 жыл бұрын
A question here. I can see that cyl #1 being lean, it's easier for the spark to make its way outside and create the carbon trace, but how is it that #4 which was the richest of all four (I presume since it had the largest pressure delta) suffered from the exact same symptom?
@kunzmanm
@kunzmanm 11 ай бұрын
Head gasket leaks is common between cylinders will cause misfires
@hobbiespr
@hobbiespr 9 ай бұрын
I have a honda accord 2016 misfiring under load above 4k rpm (no problem going 6k rpm downhill). It has new spark plugs, new high pressure fuel pump and still the same problem. Codes are: P0300, P0301, P0302, P0303, P0304, that's all always, it never had the P0087, P0088 or P0089.
@radiatorsfc2449
@radiatorsfc2449 7 ай бұрын
Did you figure out problem???
@hobbiespr
@hobbiespr 6 ай бұрын
No.@@radiatorsfc2449
@philh9238
@philh9238 3 жыл бұрын
So how do we know if there piezo or coil type injectors? Piezo has 2 wires going directly to computer?
@Arphand
@Arphand 3 жыл бұрын
Would also like to know.
@leomcalla29
@leomcalla29 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to know too.
@mikesabin8568
@mikesabin8568 3 жыл бұрын
No, because all gdi injectors piezo or not have two wires to the computer
@philh9238
@philh9238 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikesabin8568 so how do we know the difference
@mikesabin8568
@mikesabin8568 3 жыл бұрын
@@philh9238 well, I would probably look the injectors up on Mitchell, alldata, or identifix to know for sure. Piezo is generally a bigger and longer injector. Bmw and vw use piezo. What i do know is counting wires to the computer wont help
@joeluang8695
@joeluang8695 3 жыл бұрын
There have been many counterfeit spark plugs floating around places like ebay and Amazon.
@keenxxx1
@keenxxx1 3 жыл бұрын
Well this is an odd one. 2018 that appears to be in showroom condition. Has had multiple plug / coils from another shop but not one but 2 new plugs carbon track. Carbon tracking is usually caused by very worn plugs on higher mileage vehicles exposed to dirt moisture etc. Intro has fuel trim error on scanner but freeze frame trims are normal. What am I missing here?
@eliaspascoe5108
@eliaspascoe5108 Ай бұрын
Dude, where is this mechanic at and can you diagnose my 2018 Honda Accord misfire?
@MrBeefsnorkel
@MrBeefsnorkel 3 жыл бұрын
hey bernie, is "dead nutz" is a technical term that will be on my L1 recertification?
@MechanicMindset
@MechanicMindset 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@glennallen7129
@glennallen7129 3 жыл бұрын
So what happened here? The #4 injector was flowing too much fuel and the computer sees it and takes fuel away and now the cylinder 1 and 4 are running lean that causing the misfire?
@frankjohn4302
@frankjohn4302 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what it looks like to me.that #4 was over fueling and pcm was subtracting fuel from others.thats why fuel trim was in negative. But like Bernie said test results weren't even across the board so need to replace all injectors .
@glennallen7129
@glennallen7129 3 жыл бұрын
@@frankjohn4302 I wouldn’t take any chances of just replacing 2 inj.
@frankjohn4302
@frankjohn4302 3 жыл бұрын
@@glennallen7129 yeah that's right.replace all 4
@GrindEndeavors
@GrindEndeavors 2 жыл бұрын
My 2018 Accord gave me the same code. Once when I checked myself and once at the Honda dealership. Says cylinder 3 misfire. Yet they still can’t find out what’s wrong with it. I’ve brought it back to them 3 times and the first two times they told me the car was fine. Now, the third time, they are telling me they have to tear down the engine and quoted me $3020. That’s ridiculous. Just for a tear down.
@urbanbarbe
@urbanbarbe Жыл бұрын
i just did my own code scan, no CEL on it was blinking Loss of power with jerking. Turned off and on it was normal with no CEL! .. Mine says CYL Misfire 3 i ran myself. but not sure how when everything is new & injectors
@waynethompkins6205
@waynethompkins6205 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever get your car fixed? I’m dealing with the same issue new injectors coils plugs and everything
@GrindEndeavors
@GrindEndeavors Жыл бұрын
@@waynethompkins6205 no. Dealership had it for about a month and couldn’t figure it out. Said that they had to do a complete engine tear down which would have cost me $3,000. I ended up trading it in. Very frustrating.
@nesone6520
@nesone6520 Жыл бұрын
After the 3rd time, wouldn’t the lemon law buy back kick in?
@missjaayvee
@missjaayvee 7 ай бұрын
@@waynethompkins6205did you ever get yours fixed
@mohammedbierey
@mohammedbierey 3 жыл бұрын
Just Woooooow. Never let me down,every time you made me amazed
@ygbodybuilder3023
@ygbodybuilder3023 9 ай бұрын
Hey I had the code 40420 show up a couple of days ago and than it the check engine was gone two later, the next day the p0304 code came on while driving and check engine light was flashing and car seemed like it didn't want to accelerate, cut the car off went to clock in came came back drove around the parking lot with no problem, what could it be
@kennethbode2017
@kennethbode2017 3 жыл бұрын
great work
@Islamasadeen
@Islamasadeen 3 жыл бұрын
That's great video. Right now I already have honda accord 2018 1.5 turbo. They also have same issue but my honda dealer doesn't figure it out my car problum they had to change fuel injector but still misfire problems is doing. Pls help me what should i do. Thanks.
@therealspixycat
@therealspixycat 10 ай бұрын
How can faulty injectors cause carbon traces on the spark plugs?
@timothydenette6735
@timothydenette6735 Жыл бұрын
So the lean a/f ratio must be causing a rise in ignition voltage which ultimately causes the plug to carbon track, correct?
@rodjackxiel
@rodjackxiel 2 жыл бұрын
Add a injectors cleaner and change spark-plugs.
@mannyvelez4437
@mannyvelez4437 3 жыл бұрын
Great content as usual
@sinegra30
@sinegra30 3 жыл бұрын
Are you charging the high pressure rail with the electrical transfer pump instead of using the mechanical high pressure pump? Why?
@adrpals2324
@adrpals2324 Жыл бұрын
Wow, good job.
@alexgerstmann3007
@alexgerstmann3007 Жыл бұрын
It's probably a coil why don't you switch coils and see if that's the problem instead of wasting the customers money it happened on my Accord and it was definitely a bad coil but I didn't you to scan tool I just swapped a coil pack and then when the cylinder didn't drop that I put the bad coil pack I knew it was bad $30 instead of spending a hundred on diagnostic in the car and still getting nothing
@robertmobileman8304
@robertmobileman8304 3 жыл бұрын
Good content Bernie , are those cool on plug leads available to purchase separately and are they universal with all scopes ? Thanks Rob
@johnmattiazzo3900
@johnmattiazzo3900 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think these earth dreams engines with gdi turbo are going to be long term reliable
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think they will cost more in Super Unleaded and frequent oil changes but should run ok. At least they can get out of their own way. Honda knows how to build these things for low maintenance and durability.
@chucklucas8747
@chucklucas8747 3 жыл бұрын
What mileage do you recommend for plug changes an what a great video
@LethalDentCompany
@LethalDentCompany 3 жыл бұрын
It never hurts too pull a plug to see what shape it’s in. Get some info on what the plug is trying to tell you based on what it looks like and go from there. Maintenance and documentation is always key and doing this small test can let you know how the rest of the car is performing.
@SuperComand
@SuperComand 9 ай бұрын
Had an issue with accord 2013 2.4 direct injection, over +40% of lambda correction, it was E10 gasoline, when a customer changed to normal gasoline there was +16% of correction, then I cleaned 3 times injectors with BG cleaner and there's 2-4% of lambda correction now. In this video cylinders 2,3,4 showed almost the same pressure drop, only cylinder 1 was definitely leaking, but why do you diagnose cylinder 4 injector as faulty?? Your test doesn't bring to that conclusion. It is just your suggestion that lean mixture causes ignition coil work at its limit at high voltage and that brings in the end to "carbon trace" on the spark plug It is a known issue with injectors on this Honda engine...
@SuperComand
@SuperComand 9 ай бұрын
Misfire can be caused by low compression, burned valve, worned cam...
@carlm2590
@carlm2590 3 жыл бұрын
Great diag 👍
@billrimmer5596
@billrimmer5596 3 жыл бұрын
Great diag!!
@chansaechao79
@chansaechao79 Жыл бұрын
Master!
@03OxWhiTeMach
@03OxWhiTeMach 3 жыл бұрын
Why is this not at the dealer for factory warranty?
@joshwilson849
@joshwilson849 3 жыл бұрын
Probably was with no fix
@richardc6038
@richardc6038 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshwilson849 i had one took it to 5 dealers and they didnt want to fix it i had enough and brought a Toyota
@paquesepas6696
@paquesepas6696 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardc6038 did they fix the Toyota?
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardc6038 Why doesnt Honda want to fix problems? Their dealers suck!
@richardc6038
@richardc6038 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmedina2062 in my case with the 1994 honda acored bad oil ring you know what honda said oh will
@neverstoplearning382
@neverstoplearning382 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@jamesstevens5627
@jamesstevens5627 3 жыл бұрын
Great video good software
@joseroman9427
@joseroman9427 2 жыл бұрын
What if you are still getting the same thing after replacing the fuel injectors and spark plugs?
@rathernotsay9768
@rathernotsay9768 Жыл бұрын
blown head gasket - leaking coolant into cylinder causing intermittent misfire - that's what is happening in mine - honda reliablility 0 in this 1.5t engine.
@kmilamedeiross
@kmilamedeiross 8 ай бұрын
@@rathernotsay9768 Same thing happening with my 2.0 Touring :(
@glanzera
@glanzera 2 жыл бұрын
Honda makes great engines but I knew they were moving to turbos after the 9th Gen Accord so I got a 2016 with the k24. Nary a problem.
@mikethemechanic8853
@mikethemechanic8853 3 жыл бұрын
oddly enough, i have run into this aswell on a 2018. I didn't have all the fancy tools though. No way to test injectors (at least that was what I thought before I saw this). I simply eliminated all other possibilities. I have alse had a set of GDI injectors that were all equally restricted (yes, i didnt believe it either), so the drop test was misleading.
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 3 жыл бұрын
You could swap one for a good one right? How hard is it to change them?
@JP-gw9ts
@JP-gw9ts 2 жыл бұрын
Question; toyota uses port injection + Direct injection. This seems to keep the intake valves cleaner, great. But If this honda would have had both port and direct injection would the problem have not been as severe?
@singular9
@singular9 2 жыл бұрын
The question is not about the technology used but the reliability of the suppliers injectors. It has nothing to do with what kind of injection system used.
@TheThreeLeggedChair
@TheThreeLeggedChair 3 жыл бұрын
Good one, thanks.
@dwprokoe2288
@dwprokoe2288 3 жыл бұрын
My car is doing the same thing, so where you able to fix the car? Because Honda is telling me I need to buy a new motor?
@billsmith2212
@billsmith2212 3 жыл бұрын
Why don't you contact Bernie . His information is at the end of the video . There could be a shop in your area that has his equipment . That E Scan Elite can do a relative compression test right at the OBD connector and you will know if any cylinders are low or dead . This only takes a few minutes . THEN they can test further . This will also do a Volumetric Efficiency Test the same way . Then you know if the CAT is clogged and the MAF sensor is functioning properly . They can get a lot of data in a short time . An hour of diagnostic time by a shop that is trained with high end tools may be money well spent . The dealer may want to sell you a new car .
@happy543210
@happy543210 3 жыл бұрын
how can a two-year-old accord have 4 bad injectors??
@jdtractorman7445
@jdtractorman7445 3 жыл бұрын
Crap fuel, bad part, bad engineering or all of the above.
@richardc6038
@richardc6038 3 жыл бұрын
@@jdtractorman7445 i dont think it Fuel at all if it was we be seeing more make in the shop
@mike-yp1uk
@mike-yp1uk 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about a pico but this scope and its software are the best.
@crittersprowls7092
@crittersprowls7092 Жыл бұрын
How much would i have to pay to get all of the tests that you ran, done to my civic 1.5l?
@gregorystevens2912
@gregorystevens2912 2 жыл бұрын
Good video but that mic and hearing the inhales was hard to deal with.
@madmike214
@madmike214 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! But why did you pick mode 6 for up to 2009?
@automotivetimelapserepairs1782
@automotivetimelapserepairs1782 3 жыл бұрын
Saw the same thing I assume it's a generic function
@macdonaldsmotorworks
@macdonaldsmotorworks 3 жыл бұрын
excellent video Bernie! Thanks very much. I'm faced with an almost identical problem on a 2017 ridgeline and want to do the fuel pressure drop test. Can you explain how you inserted your fuel gauge into the rail? Did you just T off of a connector or...? Thx!
@wrenchposting9097
@wrenchposting9097 3 жыл бұрын
Some fuel systems have a schrader valve on the rail, on others you have to tee in, you have to get pretty creative sometimes.
@jayjb833
@jayjb833 3 ай бұрын
Blown head gasket!
@andrewcimochowski
@andrewcimochowski 3 жыл бұрын
Isnt this car under warranty?? A 2018 ??Honda should pay for this repair...I would call Honda customer service line and make them pay
@williambarker7685
@williambarker7685 3 жыл бұрын
My 2018 1.5T going through the same thing ..... 110k miles on it so unfortunately it’s out of warranty, donno if my next one will be a Honda after this...
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 3 жыл бұрын
@@williambarker7685 Why so many miles? Its an Accord?
@HristovRumen
@HristovRumen 3 жыл бұрын
And just like that you showed the same diagnostics that Honda likely followed before coming up with their recall on the original fuel injectors when they first released these 1.5gdi garbages. These engines were seizing left, right and center due to these spraying too much.
@rob4f258
@rob4f258 2 жыл бұрын
My 2018 accord 1.5 touring is doing the same thing but the Honda dealership is telling me that all cylinders are "passing". Any idea of what I should do
@urbanbarbe
@urbanbarbe Жыл бұрын
get a different car.. thats what im trying to do
@gertpetersson3570
@gertpetersson3570 Жыл бұрын
Awsome!
@excelautobahamas2425
@excelautobahamas2425 3 жыл бұрын
No after fix shot? 🤔
@sabertoothduck
@sabertoothduck Жыл бұрын
Run injector cleaner every 2500 miles, Seems like a maintenance issue due to gas
@norbertocelerino2277
@norbertocelerino2277 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Is that engine rattling normal?
@luismarty1685
@luismarty1685 Жыл бұрын
How many miles did this vehicle have?
@Kc8qdq
@Kc8qdq 3 жыл бұрын
How does a lean fuel cause carbon tracking ?
@yasir8104
@yasir8104 Жыл бұрын
Where are located places
@toddk1479
@toddk1479 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder why the dealership couldn’t diagnose bad injectors? Basic. I’m not a mechanic and I thought to myself bad injectors.
@ganguiano6853
@ganguiano6853 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever fix that accord and how?
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