Attempting to Explain the Summers Family Tree

[@Top10Nerd]

Be sure to check out Part 2 for even more Summers Family Tree Explained! - Attempting to Explain the Summers Family Tree - Part 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5qxk5mHp6eosK8&ab_channel=Top10Nerd

[@nemopouncey3827]

everybody was pretty much a leader of the X-Men once. Logan,storm,beast, etc.

[@mariogrant9625]

This was so confusing to me , especially after seeing a Scott’s brother in first class kinda had me feeling like the brother in X-men first class was the older brother🤦🏿‍♂️

[@LikaLaruku]

Deathbird's niece Xandra is Charles Xavier's daughter.

[@paulpierre4895]

Havoc is a beast 😮

[@lonewolffang]

Nightwing: I have a lot of weird siblings. How about you? Cyclops: Don't ask.

[@wulaeofthetengu8336]

Cyclops, Havok, Vulcan, X-treme, and Gambit. They are a weird bunch.

[@Sunstar808]

The Summers family is one of my favorite of the mutant families. Incredible breakdown Amanda & Top 10 crew.

[@VampX13]

Thank you! 🙏 I worked real hard on this one. It's close to my heart.

[@rodneylindsey849]

It Truly Shows 🖖🏾

[@Sunstar808]

@@VampX13 ❤️💖❤️

[@johnny2003]

Like Scott Summers, I ALSO call my ex wife the goblin queen.

[@KyleAlexanderkneeGrowPlz]

Lmao! Just the kind of comment I was looking for 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MrCantheman1]

Lucky.

[@Junorimo]

My favorite family by far. So complicated it gives me very telenovela vibes lol. I love it

[@rodneylindsey849]

Comics Books are Telenovelas/ Soap Operas for Us Nerds 🖖🏾

[@bookvee]

@@rodneylindsey849 I am tempted to write a screenplay of a soap opera where everyone has ordinary life based superpowers. Stand back! its captain streetsweeper and his skidekick, Kid powerwash. Now, to the supermarket run by Cash-registarr, with the checkout skills of 100 grocery store employees.

[@jonbrewer297]

Now if they would do the Waynes. Just doing the Court of Owls, to say nothing of alternate realities.

[@Top10Nerd]

What would you like to see explained next?

[@deathdragon139]

A similar video based on Logan and his family

[@titolopez2581]

versions of daredevil

[@Sunstar808]

A Raven Darkholme family video could be fun

[@Polycomical]

Finally get to the bottom of the Magneto family tree (that isn't?!)

[@brandonscott5544]

top ten nerd 👌Great video 💫

[@unlikelyspore1406]

Good luck with that, the house habsburg is less complicated.

[@reapersritehand]

Well that's cuz its easy to draw a straight line with no offshoots

[@l.apastore4208]

@@reapersritehand good one 😅

[@jonbrewer297]

@@reapersritehand You earned a like for that one. But I guess anyone descended from them can take it on the chin.

[@christophersiner8851]

Sheesh the Kennedy's are less complicated than the Summers 0.o

[@francofernandes2006]

And also has somehow more terrifying genetic conditions.

[@chealoutman5]

I think u trying to explain ANYTHING in X-Men timeline is an great accomplishment 👏 good job girl

[@VampX13]

[@UltimateSpider1385]

As far I know, Cable is the son of Scott Summers and Madelyn Prior AKA Goblin Queen. Scott Summer's Brother is Alex Summers AKA Havok, Christopher Summers AKA Corsair is Scott's Father who formed the galactic group known as the Star-jammers. His wife, Kate Summers was killed by Lilandra's Brother d'ken. Mr. Sinister was Scott Summer's Adopted Father (which I'm surprised to hear this), Scott's third Brother is Gabriel Summers AKA Vulcan. Nate Summers is alternate version of Cable. Alex Summers and Janet Van dye have a daughter named Kate. Then there's Cable's son Genesis and his daughter Hope.

[@justinburris1365]

Didn’t strife kidnap his son an he became genesis for apocalypse too

[@UltimateSpider1385]

@@justinburris1365 yes, that's true.

[@wulaeofthetengu8336]

There's also Adam Neramani, Adam X/X-Treme, he's Scott, Alex, and Gabriel's half brother.

[@RouseOutdoors]

Way to sum up what the video just said

[@jediknight_4798]

@@RouseOutdoors that's literally what he was doing he said as far as I know 🤦‍♂️

[@richchappell]

As someone who is getting back into collecting comics after 30 years off, this is actually quite helpful.

[@NeroLeMorte]

Comics suck now. People only read manga and indie comics.

[@Polycomical]

Summers Lovin, got his eye blasts Summers Lovin', flambed lady sass I met a girl crazy for me Met a boy, called Wolverine Summers Days, Madeline Pryor's away But oh now he's with Emma Frost

[@JamesSerapio]

This deserves love! Emma + Scott > Jean + Scott

[@rodneylindsey849]

🎶 But OH , Those Summer Nights 🎶🖖🏾

[@CrakaBakBlak]

Tell me more

[@davidirizarry6216]

Tell me more, tell me more. Did Magneto and the brotherhood put up a fight?

[@benjaminparker1653]

Can't...stop...laughing...

[@kingdomcomesuperman3669]

Favourite family of Marvel, especially Cyclops but love how overcomplicated its become.

[@VampX13]

Eeeh! Kingdome Come Superman! 🙌 I also love the Summers and enjoy how entertainingly timey wimey & complex this family has become.

[@kingdomcomesuperman3669]

@@VampX13 Been away for awhile bt its good to be back and see the resident Summers family fan, and yeah I enjoy the added timeline influences and secrets added to the family.

[@Sunstar808]

@Kingdom Come Superman Agreed. You know Cyclops is a favorite of ours

[@Nauni]

Imagine having the worst power out of your family and you can’t open your eyes

[@jonbrewer297]

He only can't control it because of brain damage. Yeah, disabilities and powers intersecting makes for some strange combinations.

[@OrpheuAqueronte]

not to mention that while he has not the most articulated of powers, his DNA is still sought out for evil purposes.

[@ManicMarxman]

Peak!

[@AJGraham83]

@@jonbrewer297send like something the Phoenix could heal

[@walterlucero5757]

What are you talking about? Adam-X can open his eyes. (His powers are his blood becomes acid-like when it's exposed to air.)

[@caldervitriolic2128]

One of the most complicated families but some of my favorites

[@VampX13]

I agree.

[@shinkyto]

I 100% agree the Summers/Grey family has the most complicated history in comics. My favorite of Scott's kids is X-Man, I honestly was hoping to see Nate Grey return before A.v.X.v.E. Judgement just to see him & Cable team-up. Though I pity Madelyne Pryor the most because of the number of times she has been betrayed.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

​@@shinkyto*hawkman enters the chat*

[@IAmImprintJones]

That is the most complex family tree in comics PERIOD!!! Awesome job Amanda

[@VampX13]

Thank you so much! I worked really hard on this one and had a lot of fun putting it together for you all!

[@tondelungu6376]

Great explanation... please have a part 2. I want to see Ruby Summers make it back to the mainstream timeline

[@VampX13]

Omg I love Ruby Summers. Would love to talk about some more of the alt fam tree. And get into the grandparents and ancestors. There was definitely not enough time. But all these folks deserve to be mentioned! :3

[@tondelungu6376]

@@VampX13 I trust you're going to use you're incredible effervescence to make it happen. Huge fan! Please keep it up !!

[@isaiahdowns797]

Yes. She she forgot her.

[@VampX13]

@@isaiahdowns797 Just ran out of time but if you want more alternate reality Summers kids (Ruby included) you can check her out on part 2. 👍

[@wulaeofthetengu8336]

I need Remy Summers made fully canon instead of teasing it. Yes, Gambit is Cyclops brother most likely.

[@GlidingZephyr]

Honestly, I would not shed a tear if Mr. Sinister were somehow paralyzed, sat facing a nuclear warhead twenty feet away from him and time were somehow slowed enough so he could watch and feel himself be obliterated at 1 to 5% real life speed. In all seriousness, that was an excellent breakdown, Amanda. It pretty much answers anything that anyone would want to know about the Summers family.

[@VampX13]

Thank you! :)

[@GlidingZephyr]

@@VampX13 You're welcome. 😊

[@neilstone3656]

To be fair sinister has kind of reformed recently

[@jorienwachukwu466]

@@neilstone3656 Trust me, he hasn't. He's still the same as he was before. He just puts on an act so that the Council doesn't get rid of him.

[@LikaLaruku]

It could happen to any Sinister, as he is an entire race of clones.

[@louisalectube]

I still think Rachel Summers should be Phoenix (or Jean Grey). Or Rachel should have some important role and power among Xmen. And her awesome 80's spiked outfit needs to make a comeback.

[@mexgirl41]

OMG I REQUESTED THIS THANK YOU!!

[@Top10Nerd]

Hope you liked it!

[@JunkAccount-ig8st]

I'm a pretty big comic nerd and I am very impressed by your level of research and knowledge.

[@billc.8569]

Cyclops has always been my favorite, was great to see this video.

[@rodneylindsey849]

Whew 😅 & I thought Adam needed a Breather after explaining the Bat Family Tree…Great Job Amazing 🤩 Amanda, only thing I’ll say is You probably need to add one of Your Girl Sasha Wood favorites sayings ( Adam probably as well) “ At The Time Of This Recording” ,Oh & Madelyne Pryor needs a Good Stiff Drink & too introduce Herself as “ Madelyne with a Y & 2 E’s one of which is not where You Think” 🖖🏾

[@anthonyalvarez124]

Amanda you gots some supplanting to do! Lol That was a whole alot of supplanting! I bet that was some researching! Amanda looking amazing as always! 🔥 🔥 🔥 🙌 Looking forward to your next knowledgeable video! 😎👍

[@Marx1684]

This is an excellent drop.

[@MrRichieRides]

Oh man I could listen to Amanda do her “splainin” all day 🥺😭❤️❤️ oh wait I just did 😂😂 god I love these videos! I learn so much and also get reminded of so much I already knew but forgot and I love it 😍

[@VampX13]

YAY! I love this comment. Thanks for being a part of our nerdy lil community.

[@hitmandollahbill]

Missed the live but love you guys

[@Top10Nerd]

Hopefully you can make it to the next live next Wed!

[@ArtcanaCheck]

I'm looking forward to Part 2...because the Summers family tree has only just begun to get weird.

[@briangressett902]

The X-Men really are just a superhero soap opera.

[@420Yako]

Thanks for this story of Summers, Nate is still my favorite Xman. Age Of Apocalypse is a fantastic story, thanks Amanda for having a great shirt on per usual.

[@Top10Nerd]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@VampX13]

I do love wearing fun shirts. :) I got this one from a surf shop in San Diego after I stayed on Coronado Island for a bit after SDCC. What a good lovely time. Also the surf shop was run by a Californian who was also a Canadian! Small world!

[@benjaminparker1653]

i thought i was the only one that noticed amanda's shirt hahaha

[@davidfreeman9404]

What about the Mutant X Timeline? Alex possesed his variant's body, and raised that universe's Alex+Maddie son, Scottie.

[@jeronimoferronato1860]

Wow, that was a tsunami of info. Great job! I think i just fell in love.

[@wiccanroo6686]

This should be an Amanda only segment. She is the only one with the purest love for comics. Thats not a read to anyone else. Amanda just has a passion for the medium that IS felt in our DNA

[@VampX13]

Awww that is so sweet. But I promise you! I have seen the passion in Adam's eyes when he and I discuss comics together. lol It is also there! He and I both share a special love I think for all things weird in comics. The same passion I also share with former Top 10 Nerd host and my friend, Sasha of Casually Comics. I will admit though, I DO have an ultimate OBSESSION with anything mutant related over at Marvel. I cannot deny that lol

[@rodneylindsey849]

Sasha & You Amazing 🤩 Amanda, got Me after My retirement back into Reading Comics …So Your Fellow Host can Blame You Two when I Challenge/Disagree with You’ll …Staying Nerdy 🖖🏾

[@LapislazuliKnight]

this was so fun the summers family tree is kinda complicated but i would have loved to know about the missing offspring like ruby summers

[@kratoscraken5614]

You'll have a easier time explaining the periodic table then the Summers Family tree 🌳 lol

[@ryanblease]

Loved this vid. Summers family is so complicated, just like everyone else’s then 😉😉👍🏼

[@Top10Nerd]

It really is!

[@krysisstorm2703]

What about Gambit? In the X-Men: The End miniseries it was revealed that Gambit is a mixed DNA clone of Mr. Sinister and Cyclops/Scott Summers, effectively making him a half-brother to Scott? Also, in "The End" miniseries Scott and Emma Frost have several children as well as Gambit and Rogue. I guess all of those kids would technically be part of the summers family tree as well!

[@VampX13]

That's an alternate reality that doesn't necessarily cross into the main continuity as far as I know. But it's still fascinating! Maybe I can make some time to discuss these alt future kids and Gambit's alt reality connection to the Summers on our part 2. ;)

[@ArronSorrell83]

You forgot Gambit. Sinister Grow him from Cyclops DNA and was gunna transfer himself into him but Apocalypse stole him and left him at the Thieves Guild in New Orleans. With the resurrection protocols in the X-Men comics these days you would have thought that when Cyclops died and they brought him bk they would of got rid of the brain injury so he would not need the visor. Oh you also forgot to mention that Cyclops also had kids with Emma Frost in an alternative reality (see X-Men:The End Comics)

[@LikaLaruku]

That's an alternate universe Gambit Origin, but I guess it still counts. Then there's another alternate universe where Gambit is a clone of Sinister

[@RACALDERONR]

Ever since I was a kid Cyclops was my favorite hero in marvel, Jean 2nd. Was bonus they were destined for each other. I always collected comics that has to do with them or their bloodlines. Good job, thanks! 😬

[@mateoedwin]

Scott’s destined for Emma frost

[@dlove3623]

I hope there is a part 2 In the Mutant X timeline, Havok has children, & in the Days of Future Past timeline, Rachel & Franklin Richards have a son. There are many more, that's just two.

[@GotterdammerungX]

Very nice rundown of the Summers but there is one name I did not hear : Hyperstorm!

[@darrickbrown5598]

That was a lot of information. I need a part II. There's more. I never could follow the Summers Family clearly. There's more, I need a part II 😄😄😄

[@Kiyosuki]

I am really enjoying this resurgence of newfound appreciation for the character lately, largely thanks to 97. Something I've wondered about with the Summers brothers is if the full potential of Scott and Alex could evolve, considering Gabriel is an omega-level mutant and all three of the others have similar themed powers (its all some type of energy manipulation, often cosmic adjacent) it makes me wonder if Scott and/or Alex could evolve to a similar level, or at least have a level that hasn't been discovered (ie: created) yet. Alex's powers seem like they definitely could, and the big question with Scott is obviously whether or not his brain injury as a kid is "locking" the full functionality of his power and if it is, by how much. We did get hints in the Ultimate universe back when that was around, and when Scott had the Phoenix Force in him that this could be the case but nothing consistent in the mainstream universe yet. I do think it'd be neat for either of them, but especially Scott to have what their powers are capable of expand a bit after so many years, sort of like whats happened to characters like Storm or Iceman over the years. Like if I remember right, in the Ultimate universe when he was temporarily "buffed" he could channel the ruby energy into a sort of force field around himself.

[@JamesRMagic]

I somehow did not know that Adam X was connected to the summers family, I barely remembered him to be honest

[@Top10Nerd]

You're not the only one, don't worry

[@wulaeofthetengu8336]

Gambit too. He's most likely a Summers brother.

[@dnc5997]

That's a good run down of the family tree. I'm confused af but it's a great run down.

[@juanmata9814]

Amanda your the Best when it comes to Mutants your the Best host on top 10 nerd ever

[@Eats1987]

This is an amazing breakdown and also....so complex I have chosen to ignore it. Cyclops and Havoc are alone in the world. Das it. Leave me alone. Nobody else exists 😒

[@olicityfan1150]

I never thought there could be a more complex family tree in fiction than the Once Upon a Time family tree but this one might give that one a run for its money!

[@solgi29]

Why was sinister so obsessed with Scott's DNA? I remember sinister capturing key mutants with special genes. But what was so special about Scott's DNA?

[@Mrikeepgettinmoneyagain]

The X Gene runs strong in that bloodline and crested strong mutants, you see all the summers brothers can use different types of energy

[@lbc1628]

Thanks Amanda the Amazing, love the comfy look

[@Top10Nerd]

You're so welcome!

[@carlosalfonsoalmanza7356]

should it be mentioned that gambit was also rumored to be a summers brother, hence sinister's obsession with him as well.

[@wulaeofthetengu8336]

Facts. Scott, Alex, Gabe, Adam, and Remy. I wanna see them all together.

[@benjaminparker1653]

what happened with gambit there??

[@ThaBlacksheepX]

This was great

[@ColeBeeRyan]

I like this new family tree thing. Who's next? Hmm... Wolverine?

[@VampX13]

Good suggestion. Love the Wolverine fam. 💕

[@greggraham9785]

WOW just WOW!.Great job!

[@kenyascott5946]

That was awesome! Thanks!

[@nomidanae8216]

This was insightful and exhausting all at the same time😵‍💫😅

[@nealheder]

Darkhölme and Rasputin families are quite alright too.

[@alexoblivion9295]

Let me sum that Summers family tree up for you: There is a Summers family tree. Marvel then proceeded to piss all over it, and sh!t on anyone who asked questions. The end.

[@raymundoveracustolaslambaw7098]

I’m 100% invested in these videos to see Amanda’s style of clothing for the video. It’s always very surprising.

[@jlo1195]

Scott was originally named "Slim Summers" before they change it in issue #3 to "Scott Summers" and made "Slim" a nickname

[@nicoperez1064]

Going over each one's powers as they came up would've been a good way to round out this family tree video

[@JAZZWAVE]

great job 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@Top10Nerd]

Thank you 👍

[@vernonhampton5863]

3:30 is why Mr. Sinister should not be on any X-Men team. Ever.

[@SirsasthNigam.]

Its funny how Scott and Jean have only future , genetically cloned or alternate reality children

[@uchihanoshana84]

Great information!

[@DJ-vk4rp]

Can you do the Guthrie family? Cannonball has a few family members that are also mutants

[@chefclewis]

Very informative

[@Top10Nerd]

Glad you liked it

[@jonathanvelazquezph.d.2719]

That was quite the ride 😅

[@EnochBP]

I always found everyone else in the Summers/Grey family to be far more interesting than Cyclops especially Cable.

[@rodneylindsey849]

Want to see a BA take on Cyclops watch His Wolverine & The X-Men adaptation 🖖🏾

[@getshwifty3101]

Wait.....I know I missed something right beforehand, but....Cable. Ends up....with a Summers. And he's....a Summers. *Singing* Sweet home Alabama!!

[@paullopez6620]

Did Alex not have a son Madelyne Pryor in a alternative reality? Alex was married to Madelyne Pryor and was the father of their child, Scotty, named after his long missing older brother. Havok took the place of this dimension's Alex Summers as leader of the Six, though little Scotty recognized that he wasn't the same person anymore. This was on earth -616.

[@victorjosephreyes9804]

I remember there was a rumor that Gambit was the Third Summers brother which of course already debunk.

[@mratay4747]

Honestly, I stopped trying to link the characters and just enjoy the comics as I read them. It’s all so convoluted when trying to link different writers ideas. Cool video though I really enjoyed it!

[@mrgrandi]

I didn't know Cyclops family tree was so confusing 😵

[@robertobaynes4295]

Your doing god/goddess work

[@zerokura]

Umm can some explain something to me. I watched the cartoons so don't know to much on the comics. I remember the white cable but was their not a black cable? Like he have the absorbing engery to shoot it back plus was a time traveler as well or is he just a whole different person who just another time traveler like cable?

[@rodneylindsey849]

That is Bishop

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Yeah, the Summers family is just TOO convoluted and confusing! They’re right up there with Hawkman (Maybe even WORSE!) and basically any DC character.

[@wulaeofthetengu8336]

I wanna see Cyclops, Havok, Vulcan, and Xtreme fight together. I also wonder if they're ever gonna do anything with how they hinted at Gambit being a Summers brother as well. We still don't know his heritage.

[@VanVeniVidiVici]

GAMBIT?!

[@havokan45]

X Men the End series kind of explained it was a book series that was set in the Future . 1993 when Mr Sinister hinted to Scott he cared about his brothers . It was hinted Extreme & Gambit could be the brother or brothers . Some people where also saying Apocalypse could be a Summers the story goes Corsair was on a Desert planet and saved someone people think he some how was put back in time but no Proof that happen.

[@blacksheepsgame]

Cyclops is my favorite character in X-Men. Thanks for this info.

[@extremeuzer3]

Man every time someone asks me what superpower I could give myself, my answer is Gabriel summers power every single time

[@NoMoreMutants]

Awesome job... Finally Someone mentioned Havok and Janet's daughter!

[@UltravioletLantern]

I love this I really enjoyed it I was a little confused my favorite summers is Vulcan he’s the best hail Emperor Vulcan! 😁

[@confidentmystic]

You didn't mention any of Scott's alternate reality kids with Emma.

[@eddietowers5595]

Mister sinister NEEDS to come to life in the MCU alongside [a better] Apocalypse, since Apocolypse was the reason for Mister Sinister. As an Avenger level threat.

[@Top10Nerd]

I've been waiting patiently for a good, live-action Sinister!

[@RACALDERONR]

Well done... I approve

[@BlueAngel008]

*"The more you know."*

[@HoodyBlk]

I've watch this 3 times and is still not sure if i comprehend it all.. And reading the comment saying there's more, frightens me..

[@Top10Nerd]

we barely scratched the surface...

[@prestostrangothethugnificent]

Cool great content 👌

[@JohnHanmer]

Amazing and yet I feel with so much information, I’ve actually learnt nothing 🙋🏻☹️🤷🏻‍♂️🤪🤔😂but really good video, just far too complicated and with too much info for a basic low level nerd like me! Keep trying guys and thanks 🙏 love and best wishes to you guys!!!! John 😊

[@smilingwolf7259]

The only thing that I think was missed was that Scott and Jean were mentally transported to Earth-818 and resided in the bodies of "SLIM" and "RED". They were the two that raised a young Nathan Summers ... the one that became "Cable." I think that Slim and Red's bodies got killed and Nathan, believing his parents to have died (and I guess they sort of did), allowed him to be attached to Clan Askani. When Slim and Red died, Scott and Jean jumped back to 616 without any time loss, even though they'd spent 12 years raising Nathan. That time-ish, reality shift allowed them to be a closer couple and resulted in Cable and Scott being closer. But that information doesn't change the awesomeness of this video: that was REALLY good.

[@imarivision]

Good stuff I been explaining this family tree for years

[@strangelovemd1]

You did a great job. This is coming from a lifelong X-amen fan.

[@raeraebadfingers]

The holy X-Men 😂

[@hendrixlynch5918]

Why was the narrator not allowed to say the word “assaulted”. It was muted. But the word “killed” is said many times.

[@Extinguisher10]

I'd love to have a Summers themed skin for my bean! 🤪

[@atlantianson515]

It must be that I'm a little under the weather, but can I get some kind of cast listing? I haven't a clue who half these people are. LOL

[@SupaSargeakaQ]

Nathan Essex aka Mister Sinister.

[@deannadempsey9269]

FYI....Adam X was supposed to be the third Summers brother that was mentioned in the comics not Vulcan, Gabriel Summers. When Adam was first introduced many fans made the connection and ruined the slow revealing of who he is. That was when Vulcan was first conceived.

[@Rockhead84]

absolutely fantastic breakdown! It's a lot but still fascinating!

[@joeyXMANallen]

Amanda...she gets it!!🙌💙

[@benjamineharrison4999]

Havok has a son Scotty in the Mutant X universe with Maddie. Just sad you didn't talk about him.

[@spacebeast7958]

You did a great job of explain. I tip my nerd glasses to you mi lady. * as I’m dressed like Sherlock Holmes*