Attempting to install an M.2 NVMe SSD onto the Xbox One X

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Attempting to solder an M.2 slot onto the Xbox One X motherboard for an NVMe SSD. How to solder an M.2 slot on the Xbox One X motherboard? Xbox One X unpopulated M.2 solder pads. Upgrade Xbox One X to NVMe SSD. Xbox One X M.2 slot. Xbox One X console modification. Xbox hardware modification. Step-by-step guide on how to add an NVMe SSD to the Xbox One X.
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@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to making a second part of the video where we can finally make it work. If you have any ideas or suggestions, please feel free to share them in the comments. Your input is greatly appreciated!
@doogustrog
@doogustrog Жыл бұрын
Just saying, you are missing some components listed in the schematics.
@MegaDkman
@MegaDkman 10 ай бұрын
I'm comparing other M-board that has SSD straight on it.. looks like it could be a capacitors and 1 resistor.
@doogustrog
@doogustrog 10 ай бұрын
@@MegaDkman bunch of resistors/ceramic caps.
@moji3812
@moji3812 9 ай бұрын
Alr👍
@railpao
@railpao 9 ай бұрын
What's troubling me in the final test, is the fact that you tried to boot the console with only the M.2. The first thing I would've done, is boot the Xbox with its sata drive and see if the nmve is seen on the dashboard. As far as I can remember, the nvme drive on the dev kit is for storage only, it's not used for OS. That's why I think if the nvme can work on this console, it would behave like the one on the dev kit. Well, at least, you gave it a try, and thank you for that.
@ShadowLancer128
@ShadowLancer128 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for finally making this video. It turns out that extra storage slot is a leftover from the Xbox One X developer kit console. It was never intended to work on consumer models, and only Microsoft would be able to assist in making that slot work on a consumer console, as only Microsoft has access to the console BIOS & bootloader, and developer OS which are required to make the Xbox One X M.2 slot operational. (or at least that's what I've been told by MS insiders) Still, I have always felt disappointed that Microsoft had this capability in their consoles to include NVMe storage back in 2017 and decided not to make the faster storage type available for their consumers. It is what it is, but thank you for going through all this trouble. I've been wondering for a couple years now if anybody could make that slot work!! lol
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers Жыл бұрын
I don't know why Microsoft decided to ditch that M.2 slot because in 2017, this console could have been a game-changer, leaving Sony far behind.
@Respectfully10
@Respectfully10 Жыл бұрын
​@Electronics&Computers do you think they would let you modify the OS if you ask?
@moji3812
@moji3812 9 ай бұрын
Ah ok
@Zer01neBDTDev
@Zer01neBDTDev 7 ай бұрын
Actually not, Devkit are completely different MB with two RJ45 Port.
@Knaeckebrotsaege
@Knaeckebrotsaege 4 ай бұрын
@@ElectronicsComputers Probably mainly because the storage isn't what's holding the One X back in the first place. It's that turd of a CPU based on the FX (Faildozer) architecture that's the biggest bottleneck. That's also why you barely notice any difference between the stock HDD and a SATA SSD (or even games on a USB SSD)... the storage system is barely utilized, meanwhile the CPU is pegged most of the time trying to deal with games
@MegaDkman
@MegaDkman Жыл бұрын
Thanks for you all thinking together to make this work. I'm also check-in the schematic looking for something you (or we) mis. Going to compare the X and XDK I will let you know if I find something.
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers Жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks
@lieutent2654
@lieutent2654 Жыл бұрын
It's possible there are missing midpoints for the data connection off the slot. You could potentially compare the general area of the board around the slot to the dev kit on both sides. Perhaps even be able to check continuity on the data lines from the slot to other areas on the board. The former would give you the best shot, especially if you could get your hands on a dev kit. It's awesome you put this to the test though!
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers Жыл бұрын
Without having a schematic, reverse engineering is extremely time-consuming. I've checked the data line with the scope, and I'm pretty sure that the problem lies somewhere there rather than with some firmware limitations. One missing tiny capacitor or resistor could make a huge difference.
@farmerJ-zp9dj
@farmerJ-zp9dj 5 ай бұрын
I'd get or borrow a Dev unit & inspect the data & trace lines top and bottom sides this will give you a clearer indication of what's missing ( trace , cap etc ) . The Dev unit's NVME SSD is used for storage only , also I think U might have to put the retail console in Dev mode to access the SSD . Hopefully someone will figure it out for use on a retail console . Great work 👍
@lew9068
@lew9068 4 ай бұрын
The schematics you can grab online. I’d also try use an adapter to format the ssd first and then solder it maybe
@buggerlugz6753
@buggerlugz6753 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried enabling developer mode? If it works in dev mode, it'd mitigate it being a hardware issue.
@manuelfabris7541
@manuelfabris7541 Жыл бұрын
This video is astonishing. I have 2 xbox one x at home if you manage to get it work you make my year :) 🎉
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers Жыл бұрын
I also hope, there will be a second part of the video soon.
@ALLXDARE
@ALLXDARE Жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for this
@ShadowLancer128
@ShadowLancer128 Жыл бұрын
Same
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers Жыл бұрын
If there will be any changes I'll make the second part of the video.
@Respectfully10
@Respectfully10 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this for our curiosity
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment. Working on the second part of the video.
@Respectfully10
@Respectfully10 Жыл бұрын
@@ElectronicsComputers I hope you get it to work. I'd like to try it as well 😅. Just for the sake of it.
@giovannibarraco8947
@giovannibarraco8947 9 ай бұрын
​@@ElectronicsComputersgreat video when you think can exit the next part of the video ?
@mamtili
@mamtili 9 ай бұрын
finally!🎉 You did keep your promise!
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 9 ай бұрын
I hope there will be a second final part and I make it work.
@manuelfabris7541
@manuelfabris7541 10 ай бұрын
How is it going with part 2?
@truthseeker2248
@truthseeker2248 10 ай бұрын
Thanks u make it look so easy
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 10 ай бұрын
You’re welcome 😊
@lmwlmw4468
@lmwlmw4468 Жыл бұрын
Nice work.
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@hullyk2039
@hullyk2039 11 ай бұрын
Nice video. I hope other tech persons can look into this too and see what xbox had in mind for these ports. The one x is a very good and future proof console if Microsoft chooses to give us hints
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 11 ай бұрын
I'm still working on the part two. I hope we will make it work one day.
@zoltanberenyi5919
@zoltanberenyi5919 7 ай бұрын
Nice video. What happen if you clone the original hdd of xbox to the m2ssd. I read that the xbox use a security code to hdd-s. My problem is, I bought an banned xbox one x. I did not found a worked jtag, I want to use it with my original cd games with offline mode… unformrtunatelly I can not game with it. I can order a used motherboars only to the banned console, and repleace …
@Aspen32roblox
@Aspen32roblox 6 ай бұрын
So thats how you use the wick.. all my life i just figured it out and thought i was good, now realize im good at soldering, but have a lot of catching up to do on the basics.
@damianpinnington5477
@damianpinnington5477 3 күн бұрын
Did you solve this? I think you need to populate the components under the board some of the pins go straight through the board to the part where there is space for 4 transistors. there is one clock pair and there are 4 pcie lanes and each one has an RX and a TX pair , above the connector is space for 2 caps and they are for pcie0_tx.
@doogustrog
@doogustrog Жыл бұрын
I’m working on this too, I’ve ordered all the necessary components and have a 970 evo on the way. I’ll let you guys know. I’m going off of the schematics, and hope to figure out how it goes. There’s dozens of caps that actually need to be replaced, alongside some mosfets and the debug LED. ALSO, error E109 is weird. I’ve never seen this error before, and MS has nothing on their website.
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers Жыл бұрын
I wish you luck with that project. I hope we will also make the second part of the video soon.
@doogustrog
@doogustrog Жыл бұрын
@@ElectronicsComputers good luck to you too. Also error E109 has never been seen before and MS support team themselves tried to hardware ban me for asking. Weird
@doogustrog
@doogustrog 10 ай бұрын
@@ElectronicsComputers want the schematics?
@yusufemreduman9137
@yusufemreduman9137 5 ай бұрын
​@@doogustrogdid you make it work?
@doogustrog
@doogustrog 4 ай бұрын
@@yusufemreduman9137Never got around to it 😅
@sonnyruffini4155
@sonnyruffini4155 7 ай бұрын
hi, i send you the link with schematics of xbox one x and the other xbox one and serie console, did you see it?
@Granatenman
@Granatenman 6 ай бұрын
Maybe you need the sata drive as primary storage and can just install games on nvme? have you tried with both ssd in it? i found out that the nvme drive is populated on the dev kits for faster storage.
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 6 ай бұрын
Yes, I tried with both. I pretty sure I just missed some components, like a few tiny capacitors that need to be added to the board.
@TheRadmin1724
@TheRadmin1724 3 күн бұрын
My theory is the M.2 slot is likely either: -only accepts M.2 SATA drives (knowing the age of the APU's generation) -whitelisted to specific drives like the Xbox Series consoles
@turnerthomas3602
@turnerthomas3602 Жыл бұрын
I did a quick google search and it looks like there are some leaked xbox one x schematics. They look pretty accurate and show the componant values. Maybe try and look those up as a reference. I was also able to find a boardview file but i havnt had a chance to verify and see if it is legit yet.
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. I'll check that out.
@JAKOB1977
@JAKOB1977 9 ай бұрын
Big thumbs up for giving it a shot, would have been hilarious if you succeded and also made some serious waves.. but at the end of the day, its not that big a miss. running my One X with NVMe drives, as these 10Gbps enclosures a weirdly cheap, even those with displays are like sub20bucks and 2 TB NVMe drives, cost like 40 bucks so relative cheap to stack up in ext fast storage for One X.. tested loading times, vs Series X and running the exact same 4K games, where was no difference, even though its handled by a sata3 controller, those fast accestimes does wonders for pop in and loading times and frame time spikes. as far as I can tell One X will tolerate 4 different drives all at once, and you can even mix & match, so 30% of a game on one drive and 70% on another. seems One X will do 26TB SSD storage.. 2TB internal + 3x 8 TB external. Wouldnt have taken much for Microsoft, to populate that M2 slot and just let it be user-optional for upgrades.. but then again, such vendors, usually dont like to send such mixed signals not least hence warrenty etc..and having end-users digging around on the f''ing motherboard, and why they made it plug and play for Series X with that horrendous properitary drive std.. but its a blast to just use external SATA3 SSDs or NVMe SSD drives for One X now that ext. SSDenclosures are so cheap-.
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 8 ай бұрын
I hope I'll make it work in the second part.
@meme-eg8uw
@meme-eg8uw 6 ай бұрын
That m.2 slot is for the Xbox one x devkit
@miyukiizumi5622
@miyukiizumi5622 5 ай бұрын
It be the software, I remember running across something similar to this and turns out I had to have put a driver in the usb so that the computer can load that specific driver and read then write 😶‍🌫️
@josemedinajimenez6295
@josemedinajimenez6295 9 ай бұрын
Hello, I saw an old video of you about altboot for a xerox printer, you could help me generate the 12-digit code since I did not work the altboot, I would appreciate it very much. ...
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately we don't service anymore Xerox stuff and I don't have access to that software. If had access I'd give that key without any hassle.
@mrbojangles155
@mrbojangles155 11 ай бұрын
I don't know shit about fuck about what's going on but I'm here for it man!! lol I have a one x that powers up for 30/45 seconds but nothing on screen and then shuts down again.. Someone said it may be my hd so gonna put a ssd in it and use your video thanks a bunch and hope you get your experiment to work!
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 11 ай бұрын
Try to hard reset it first.
@mrbojangles155
@mrbojangles155 11 ай бұрын
@@ElectronicsComputers Ive tried hard resetting before. It sat unplugged for 2 weeks tried again nothing it sat unplugged for 6 months and still a power up no display and then immediately powers back down
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 11 ай бұрын
@mrbojangles155 Replacing the drive is not gonna help you in this situation. Most likely, it's a motherboard failure.
@mrbojangles155
@mrbojangles155 11 ай бұрын
@@ElectronicsComputers well dang. I know zero about electronics but that really sucks because I tried to keep super good care of it, thank you for replying hope you have a great day
@mrbojangles155
@mrbojangles155 11 ай бұрын
@@ElectronicsComputers I replaced the hd and it worked!!!! It came back on and stayed on where it previously shut off without displaying anything. I’m so excited
@amdintelxsniperx
@amdintelxsniperx 10 сағат бұрын
it needs a custom bios with a boot flag that has the boot ldr detect partition
@wwrye929
@wwrye929 11 ай бұрын
Can adapter work
@erihatija9792
@erihatija9792 Жыл бұрын
What to do when the green board is broken ? Do you have a video on that
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers Жыл бұрын
To cover all possible problems with the motherboard you'll need a whole bunch of videos. What's the problem with your console?
@screen-protector
@screen-protector 10 ай бұрын
If I would be doing as you doing, I'd hate soldering SMD components as well. First for most, please learn about soldering paste. 2nd for most, they are easier to solder with a hot air. Third for most, please consider using T12 even a cheap soldering station for around 30 USD like QUICKO. Than we can talk soldering them ;).
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 10 ай бұрын
Actually, I use soldering paste very often for tiny components and the one who invented that paste is real genius. Some videos I film in my office and some at home and I basically didn't have that paste with me.
@screen-protector
@screen-protector 10 ай бұрын
@@ElectronicsComputers now makes more sense :), but, worth mentioning so others won't comment on that and waste your time ;).
@chansJar
@chansJar Жыл бұрын
So does it works With M2 SATA drive? What are a size and value of capacitors?
@ShadowLancer128
@ShadowLancer128 Жыл бұрын
It works with M.2 Sata drive as long as you have Sata-M.2 adapter for the primary storage slot. The primary slot is the only one that works.
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers Жыл бұрын
You can use any 2.5" SATA to M.2 adapter. I have a video on that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaqygHmod7x-qbc That adapter doesn't affect your SSD's speed. All it does, apart from physically adapting the form factor, is convert 5 volts into 3.3 volts.
@skybroad217
@skybroad217 Күн бұрын
Could you provide your air gun setting??
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers Күн бұрын
To solder M.2 slots, USB ports and some small components with unleaded solder a set mu Quick 861 station to 300-350C and about 30-40% air. For big mosfets and ICs I can go higher up to 400C and 50% air. For desoldering components especially mosfets I set my station to 490C and 50-60% air to quickly remove them.
@sonnyruffini4155
@sonnyruffini4155 4 ай бұрын
did you find the schematics oline of xbox one x?
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 4 ай бұрын
Yep! Still working on the project.
@sonnyruffini4155
@sonnyruffini4155 4 ай бұрын
thank you, i want to see if it's finally work@@ElectronicsComputers
@user-zd2wj7nc8r
@user-zd2wj7nc8r 5 ай бұрын
Did you try bluetooth or wifi cards?
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 5 ай бұрын
Nope! I'm still working on the final part of that project.
@killswitchpro2781
@killswitchpro2781 9 ай бұрын
I notice you was using a NVMe can you try a different M.2 Sata
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 9 ай бұрын
I got the same result with NGFF SSD.
@mbieleni
@mbieleni Жыл бұрын
Hej, did You check if PCIe_reset_n is released? Did You check if PCie ref clk 100Mhz is available (through R100 and R103 probably) ?
@chkeyer1
@chkeyer1 9 ай бұрын
legend
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Ebolachicken
@Ebolachicken Жыл бұрын
You can use one on an xbox one x dev kit.
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers Жыл бұрын
That's the point to make it work like a dev kit.
@hullster9970
@hullster9970 5 ай бұрын
Great attempt and unlucky.
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 5 ай бұрын
There will be a second part of the video and I hope we'll make it work.
@Aldo923
@Aldo923 9 ай бұрын
NvME & SATA use different voltages
@eljose6032
@eljose6032 24 күн бұрын
Te falto gamplay bro nvme test de velocidad
@maikmaik3705
@maikmaik3705 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGO3mmSqgLSVe9k Hope this helps . I read somewhere that the m.2 was made for XDK consoles and that they did not remove it on the retail boards due costs .
@finalmanfinalman3223
@finalmanfinalman3223 2 күн бұрын
The schematics got leaked afew years ago.
@apollosungod2819
@apollosungod2819 6 ай бұрын
If as a feature it was officially removed then perhaps it would be redundant even if the solution had faster thruput. Otherwise it would just make more sense to tell Microsoft to please update their Xbox One and Xbox One X firmware to be compatible with 2TB, 4TB and 8TB HDD and SSD however they would probably just ignore such a request much like how they ignored the stupidity of their online log in requirements just to set up the Xbox One/X from a reformat or a new hard drive replacement kinda like they just expect their customers to dump the old console in the tech garbage bin and buy their new disposable bucket shaped console.
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 5 ай бұрын
Xbox officially supports 500GB, 1TB and 2TB SSDs/HDDs. It's also not a problem to install 4GB ones with an extra step. I have a video on upgrading One X to SSD.
@apollosungod2819
@apollosungod2819 5 ай бұрын
I saw your video on the Xbox One X to SSD but it was only for 1TB. I read conflicting information about installing a 2TB SSD in the Xbox One X that calls for using scripts which sounds ridiculous. On my PS4 Pro and base PS4 I can just purchase from a 512GB SSD to 1TB to 2TB to 4TB and Digital Foundry has a video from years ago where they used an industrial grade 8TB SSD in the PS4 Pro... yet for Microsoft it's jumping through hoops to open the system up just to change the HDD from the puny 1TB to a more reasonable 2TB or if you have a large collection of games to a 4TB plus the fact that Microsoft's firmware kinda gets in the way in how they partition the drive space. Also I want to upgrade the original Xbox One from 500GB HDD to at least 1TB and use better quality thermal solution so maybe I'll make a video but it's just incredible how it seems like too many hoops need to be jumped over for Xbox One and Xbox One X. Basically I feel like the Microsoft Xbox One firmware is just incompetent or something idiotic like that. Like they intended for people to just dump their Xbox consoles to the garbage bin.
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 5 ай бұрын
@apollosungod2819 Like I said before, Xbox One X officially supports 500GB, 1TB, and 2TB HHDs and SSDs. Just put it inside and install Xbox OS. If you install a 4TB drive, the console will recognize it as a 2TB one. Then you have to remove the drive from your console, connect to a computer, and use any software that works with partitions, extend the User Content partition to maximum available space. And that's it.
@diglishort5268
@diglishort5268 6 ай бұрын
it's working ?or fske
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 6 ай бұрын
I have a dedicated video on that.
@antodokify
@antodokify 5 ай бұрын
Where can I watch this special video?
@Aspen32roblox
@Aspen32roblox 6 ай бұрын
Would microsoft be helpful at all if you tried contacting them?
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 6 ай бұрын
They would never do that.
@GOING_TO
@GOING_TO 9 ай бұрын
😊
@subhan1641
@subhan1641 4 ай бұрын
software software software
@israelguevara1702
@israelguevara1702 9 ай бұрын
And???
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 9 ай бұрын
Working on Part 2.
@Luis_Estevane
@Luis_Estevane 9 ай бұрын
@@ElectronicsComputers does it work now?
@SP95
@SP95 7 ай бұрын
Second part coming in 2041 since no one is currently interested in hacking that console
@SpartanV295
@SpartanV295 4 ай бұрын
Liked at 444
@ElectronicsComputers
@ElectronicsComputers 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@erichdaniels6000
@erichdaniels6000 6 ай бұрын
Hey how can we chat?
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