ATTENTION PLEASE !! - Do it for me, if you don't want to do it for you - Holden VF Commodore HSV VF

[@kellysmith7511]

Everyone watching make sure you let anyone you know with a Commodore (Friends, family, work colleges etc) to take extra security measures, including getting them to watch this video.

[@CurtisLSA]

Yes correct

[@colinknight2030]

It's not just cars, it's your homes, children, wife all live in fear, we as people need go back to the old days, leave the garage door up...... They will learn very quickly about terrorising the family home and stealing property........

[@s3uoq]

I think getting under that guard yourself and re-routing the horn wire but also replace it with wires that look the same that when cut will automatically trigger the alarm. Any clued up auto elec could do this for you. Also consider installing 2 horns with the second on a different circuit to the factory one so the alarm will still sound through the second horn. 💪 Holden for Life 🦁

[@MayOh812]

You have summarised this whole thing! Thank you. Much better than this video and the others I've seen about this.

[@johnhutchinson9714]

Two weeks ago, I hadn't heard of IGLA. It's front and centre in my mind now, thanks to you and several others.

[@CurtisLSA]

get it done

[@Mrx1080]

That's the expensive option, If it's an auto a simple switch breaking the starter solenoid wire will foil them. Moving the horn is probably the best way to limit the damage to your car though I'd imagine as they'd probably move on when the stock horn wire wasn't there.

[@__PJ__]

Yup me too, the cheapest I've found is $1200 in Sydney way out west.

[@wayno23]

Thanks for the heads ups mate , shared to a few mates.

[@CurtisLSA]

Cool spread the word more

[@jameskoutsouras4108]

When you said “do it for me, because I want to see you drive your vf commodores” I winked at my phone, I’m 19 and I occasionally drive my mums daily drive black vf ss station wagon LS2 with factory fitted extractors, we are the second owners and have had it from low km, it’s too cool for school and I feel privileged when I get to slowly drive it, these Aussie car are and icon and I thank you for showing me how to try and prevent the theft of my beloved commodore

[@edwardfletcher7790]

If you want to keep it, I suggest an, old school fuel pump cutout !!

[@CurtisLSA]

Good to hear mate keep driving it for many years to come

[@Steve_jones113]

And don't drive it like a young idiot.

[@__PJ__]

VF SS never had an LS2 only the 6.0L L77 2013-2015 and the LS3 in 2016/17

[@nickb7418]

Great to see yourself and Paul Maric bring this to attention. Had no idea on this until my VF SV6 was stolen. Got recoveredbut without it for 6 weeks+ $700 excess

[@godsson9255]

To all the thieves out there You are taking your life in your own hands every time you do this I catch you, you disappear

[@Nine.siixxx]

You ain’t doing shit mate

[@godsson9255]

You sound like a thief Is that what you are?

[@SomebodyNobodyAnybody]

Haha what a dumb $h1t gunna do a sentence for murder over a 50k car😂😂😂

[@maxrockatanksyOG]

You aint doing nothing mate

[@godsson9255]

Yep, I’m just an ordinary civilian.

[@JBLegal09]

Hey Matt thx for this, watched a couple of these today - already taken precautions🤞

[@CurtisLSA]

good work mate thanks for checking out the video

[@GaryRielly_1955]

Great video Matt. It does not surprise me that VF Holden and VF HSV owners have to take extra measures to protect their pride and joy from these low life scumbags. I am a victim of car theft that happened to me back in the mid 1970's. I never got my car back and it still plays on my mind even today. The courts are way too lenient on these scumbags. I owned a VZ HSV Clubsport from new back in January 2006 and I owned her for nearly 5 years and just thinking about having that car stolen made me cringe.

[@CurtisLSA]

Thanks for watching

[@triggeredleftyvegan6004]

IGLA with add on alarm which also locks out OBD port and horn relocation kit is the best way. This leftwing government with relaxed bail laws are causing most of these problems especially in Victoria.

[@CurtisLSA]

baby bonus caused lots of cra.k heads to have kids they didnt want and cant control them anymore

[@andrewsmith8729]

$2500 or thereabouts and mainly in Melbourne. Not much good if you live around Tweed Heads.

[@edwardfletcher7790]

Simple fix, old school fuel pump cutout !!

[@johnhutchinson9714]

@@andrewsmith8729 It's not just Melbourne, one was towed away from a Browns Plains carpark by a flatbed with no plates in broad daylight. Tweed's not exactly the crime prevention capital either.

[@rocknral]

​@@CurtisLSAExactly! And that was a coalition policy!!

[@paulfrench6076]

My 2009 FPV is manual and i leave it in the driveway...little shits cant drive with 3 pedals.

[@CurtisLSA]

truth yes i agree

[@marktiltins8845]

Thats why I converted my Grange to manual

[@oldfashionedwrx3574]

They can drive manual, its not hard, youll find a lot thieves who do motor thief are car savvy

[@thesalandkazchannel8971]

dont risk it dude mines manual they nearly got it twice I thought it was safe but its not

[@liamgross7217]

Even years back I had some little grub try and pinch my manual HQ GTS and couldn’t get it out of the driveway. But yea we do need to protect our precious rides from scum.

[@cpp170]

There are other old school anti theft methods that can be adapted to this situation-kill switch, it can’t be added to the coil anymore but can be added to other circuits like the fuel pump or low current wire to the starter relay. 4:02 Also do a horn wiring bypass and route the wires further away from the wheel arch so that the crooks can’t stop the alarm. Install a second horn on the passenger side of the car, so that even if they cut the wires and the bypass wires the outer one will still go.

[@shedhopper7002]

I would change the horn wiring a bit so the wire they cut goes to a relay and the relay turns the horn on so when the alarm is armed the relay is on and when the wire is cut the relay will drop out and the horn will go off, this would stop them damaging the door like would still happen with the simple bypass wire.

[@CurtisLSA]

its happening

[@Wilson_Media1]

just bought a series 1 sv6 a little bit happier that it is key start but still a worrying matter, will defo look into immobilisers and other effective ways to prevent these grubby lowlives out of my car

[@CurtisLSA]

good work

[@andrewmcleod9312]

Be brave. Stand firm. Don't let evil prevail. Scrub the crims !! Thank you for this video. Passing it along with the rest. God bless you brother !!

[@CurtisLSA]

Thanks for watching !. Spread the word yes

[@harryc3084]

I was told by the dealer to make sure the security card with the key code and security pin are not left in the owners manual wallet in the glove box. I think that drastically reduces the chance of replicating a key (otherwise it’s random for any device trying to replicate a key). Also don’t leave keys in plain sight and hide or leave spare keys away from the property car is kept (friends, family etc). If someone really wants something they’ll probably get it right? it’s about not presenting thieves an easy opportunity helped by doing all the simple things plus adding all the deterrents and making it harder especially for the small time thieves looking for the quick and easy car to pinch.

[@__PJ__]

Doesn't matter with the keyless ones, "blanks" can be reprogrammed via the computer. Previous to 2016 you had to have a physical key.

[@blakehowe138]

For those on a budget - Horn Relocation - Dummy Horn - OBD Port Lock - Kill Switch - BCM Locking - Pedal Locking Plate - GPS Tracker For those with $$ on top of the above, IGLA immobiliser or even better the alarm package is the ultimate protection for these vehicles

[@CurtisLSA]

good points

[@blakehowe138]

Thankyou for bringing awareness, has gone beyond ridiculous in the last year or so, I happened to get an IGLA installed back when this first started over a year ago but never imagined it getting this bad so quickly

[@CurtisLSA]

@ yes was time to let the public know more

[@aussie8114]

I was tempted to put a hidden kill switch in the fuel pump wire run but it could be a bit risky if the switch accidentally opened, then the car would stop. Can insert a dummy fuse in place of the fuel pump fuse if it’s parked in a risky area and you can be bothered doing that. The car will start but die after about 5 seconds.

[@blakehowe138]

@@aussie8114 Yeah a kill switch is a good way of slowing them down, however there have been more and more instances of them being bypassed... all comes down to the install and how much time they have with the car to play around I suppose Same with steering locks, may slow them down a bit but easy enough to cut the steering wheel to remove the lock with a cordless grinder

[@edwardfletcher7790]

Simple fix, old school fuel pump cutout !!

[@CurtisLSA]

Good point

[@Shanos-up4sp]

Your a legend mate for bringing this to attention thank you 🙏

[@CurtisLSA]

Cheers thanks

[@muntee33]

Go the extra step and spend 1 weekend doing something to make it much harder for someone to thieve your car. Ie; relocate the cable for your bonnet release to a concealed location of your choice and effect a physical alteration to the bits n pieces that make it start/run. Can be as simple as installing a switch to open/close the circuitry to the starter motor, or simply removing the relay for it. (I would leave it in place as a visual misguide but duplicate some of the wiring ((so original one still receives signal from switchgear and still clicks)) and divert it to another location out of sight thats easy to access and mount another relay there. Or you could go to the hassle of either relocating the OBSD socket and/or making it inaccessible without first getting past a device that is in the way. There's a lot og options oht there so think outside the box for what works for your situation. RFID or NFC technology is widely accessible to the general public now and the componentry is dirt cheap to buy. A better but significantly more expensive option is to install hard barricading like bollards that physically prohibit the vehicle from moving beyond that point. Another consideration that not enough people give due thought too is the inherent security weakness that the garage door poses. Both structurally and electronically. Most older types can be forced off thier tracks without too much trouble and the RF technology widely and openly available to the general public makes the RF signal between the remote and the receiver attached to the motor, about as vulnerable to intercept and hijacking as it could possibly be. And the older doors with the keyd lock in them are are waste of time in safeguarding the garage contents to all but the most juvenile and opportunistic thieves, some extra locking devices holding the door to the ground and/or additional brackets to retain the door rollers in, or near, the runners arw paramount if you still have the older, non-panel type door. And a problem with the newer panel foors is they often have decent spaces between the door components and the house structure, making it relatively easy to find out what is behind the door.... Don't just rely on the common and popular OTS measures that everyone else employs. Use them, but take the extra step and do something unique that make nicking your vehicle as difficult and/or improbable as it could practically be.

[@bengepp9314]

I still use a Club Lock to this day 👌🏼

[@TC-yx2ss]

Our mechanic was saying the other day he bought everyone in his family one for Christmas.

[@smilingjack7622]

@@TC-yx2ss cut the steering wheel. Pretty simple.

[@james_tiberius_kirk73]

Better still is the "Cop-Lock" (Look it up online). It's hooks over the brake pedal and has a special key. It will be very discouraging for thieves who see it and they'll probably walk away. It can't be cut unless oyu happen to be carrying an Oxy and have a LOT of time.

[@s0lephasr248]

Clubs are still beatable. They take longer, so deter in that regard. But pro thieves wouldn't bat an eye at a club.

[@bengepp9314]

@s0lephasr248 ...yea no shit

[@silvioroberti-wt3pl]

Yes there is a lot of pride and joy VF commmoreds being taken. And they won't be replaced. One of kind as well. People with these cars need to take a stand against these criminals.

[@splashon7]

Well done mate, spread the word, Bit too late for my Redline but you might prevent the next bloke.

[@CurtisLSA]

Too late for some yes unfortunately sorry to hear about yours being stolen

[@craigbarrett2278]

I have a Ve ute. Have a manual switch to fuel pump. Ghost immobiliser for the Vf is a great option.

[@xkimopye]

Yeah I have a ve ssv ute and also a 92 mx5. I put a kill switch on the mx5, never bothered with the Ute as I thought it would be pretty safe, but looks like I will have to put one on the ute now.

[@CurtisLSA]

Correct yes

[@bradroesler7072]

This might not be the best theft deterrent device, but I just had a thought, and that would be to add a battery kill switch that is wired to the security system so that when the immobiliser senses that the car is being hotwired, it will cut the power to the ignition, ruining their plans for a quick getaway.

[@Exalle]

Thanks for the heads up Also, superb shirt. Up the Gun!

[@xkimopye]

Big Emirates fan?

[@__PJ__]

Old school kill switches are best and the cheapest.... one for the ignition and one for the fuel pump... Have a obvious one under the dash that sets off a 2nd horn and the other two well hidden ( even an extra one in the boot )

[@nfsdude0125]

Good on ya lad. Doing the right thing!

[@CurtisLSA]

Thanks

[@deangreen3370]

i'm so glad i have a 2022 skoda fabia monte carlo

[@SanchezUNLTD]

😂😂

[@__PJ__]

lol

[@deangreen3370]

@@__PJ__ 18" black alloy wheels Bi-LED headlights Adaptive Cruise Control Virtual Cockpit Wireless APPLE CarPlay and Android Auto Keyless Entry and Start Alloy wheels "LIBRA" black bright machining 7J x 18" - 4 pcs Tires 215/40 R18 89W xl Trims for alloy wheels Emblems Exterior mirror housings painted Nameplate set Sports bumpers phoenix orange get the female attention

[@Dropbear237]

Could you also move the horn or install an additional one under the bonnet or hidden behind the bumper somewhere. A second hidden horn would still go off and the thieves would think they have disabled the horn completely.

[@CurtisLSA]

its being done by many now

[@boozled86]

Is there a visual deterrent? So they don't just start cutting away looking for the horn wire? Would be good so they see its got protection and never try

[@petercrimson1979]

Thanks for the video these devices should not be on eBay i only drive my vf on weekends and don't park at shopping centres. Etc totally scrum bags for sure

[@AshleyPope-z9n]

You can call them pieces of shit....It's OK...

[@2loco]

Thank you for the heads up. We need to protect our assets, by any means necessary.

[@CurtisLSA]

Yes correct 👍🏼

[@vkturbo7676]

I'm going to see if an auto sparky can put a different plug where the odb2 port is and I have the special plug that has the obd2 port attached to it. I also like the idea of a fake obd2 port that's wired to 12v to fry their gear. The horn bypass is interesting but also wondering if some 250 stainless flexible conduit could work too. Only just came across this video and another one so I'll be parking mine back in the garage from now on. Don't see a point of an alarm or an obd2 port lock. I like the idea of a tracker with remote disable as well. Any recommendations on a GPS tracker I'm all ears as my last one is no longer any good due to the 3g network being closed down now.

[@Driftwood61100]

Glad I bought a VE Clubsport, reason why I bought one and not a VF

[@CurtisLSA]

Nice buy

[@Phymatic]

I got a manual E3 R8. Still worries me taking it out lol. Been thinking about selling it but I also don't want to deal with idiots at the same time.

[@__PJ__]

No it wasnt.... VF's cost more and are better you just didnt have the coin....

[@MuscleCarLover]

I've never been so glad to be too poor for a VF. If anyone decided to put a kill switch in theirs, put it where you wouldn't expect it to be and then don't tell ANYONE where it is unless you're telling the next owner

[@nabahmadi5012]

Time to reroute the horn wiring/add extra ones. Steering wheel locks would help too.

[@CurtisLSA]

lots of people now investing in these

[@jimclarke1108]

Great advice Matt👌

[@CurtisLSA]

Thanks for watching

[@DJModsChannel]

dang.... back in the day it was a pain to plug into anything... always under a thousand layers of carpet and had to pull the seat out

[@CurtisLSA]

yes that was correct they were hard to find

[@Paradoxical124]

Yours is a manual, so yours should be fine.

[@CurtisLSA]

you win the internet today good point lol

[@xpt]

dont bet on it

[@cokeaddict1663]

Not just holdens every push button start car. Golfs mainly the R are also targeted too

[@CurtisLSA]

i wasnt aware of that , thanks for commenting and letting others know of that make and model

[@xkimopye]

So Toyota 86 too?

[@d.g.5279]

​@@xkimopyemy understanding is the VF is targeted because the horn wire is easily accessible making it particularly vulnerable to this. Otherwise the alarm sounds when you open the door

[@buckd1ch]

Those people saying if its manual its safe. That might be true in the case of a 15 year old breaking in and stealing keys. These guys with OBD tools are older, far more savvy and can more than likely drive manual.

[@CurtisLSA]

Yes good point

[@AridersLifeYT]

yeah i had no idea about this issue yet after seeing a few videos, sadly i know HOW to do it, that said, no ones getting my VF unless they wanna pry it from my cold dead hands

[@r8malooman]

great vid Matt

[@CurtisLSA]

Thanks for watching

[@ren11000]

Thanks Matt OBDSync Locks the BCM so Keys can't be programmed to it, I have done half a dozen cars and tested it. Key programming fails every time

[@CurtisLSA]

Interesting thanks for the information

[@PokeHut]

Bollards inside the garage bro. I swear by them. The core hole ones that get grouted in, not the ones that get bolted to the slab . For a couple hundred bucks it’s a no brainer

[@TC-yx2ss]

Compared to what the car is worth both financially and emotionally it's like paying for a coffee.

[@patrickhailand8367]

I can’t believe this is going on. This is the 3rd. Video source I have seen on vf commodore. I am going to take my car more serious. I love my vf SS wagon. I could only get my v8 in my older years

[@bradsprewell4068]

The IGLA seems a great idea to not let them “drive away” that’s a game changer , worth the investment I think 🤔 Looks like no help from the police or government so we gotta do what we gotta do…

[@CurtisLSA]

Agreed yes

[@Wayne-Pr]

How about the insurance Co's start to contribute to the cost of securing your vehicle surley its a win, win situation. SCUM BAGS loose out, Insurance Co's don't have to pay out & people keep thier cars. HavevI missed something?.

[@phillperry487]

Garage, Igla and OBDSync BCM/ECM locking....cannot create keys!

[@88kwthomas]

As someone who used to program keys, I doubt its as simple as plugging something into the OBD and away you go. Keyless start's biggest fault is people keeping their keys on a hallway table right next to the garage door. I just installed bollards in my garage and a good old fashioned fuel pump cut off. These days, you're better off having it stolen this way than being robbed in your sleep at gunpoint

[@CurtisLSA]

Unfortunately there is many cctv videos on social media showing criminals ripping the wheel arch guard away , disconnecting the horn and then opening the drivers door . Reaching for the obd2 port and within 5-10 minutes driving away Most of these vehicles are parked at shopping centres and or workplaces.

[@smoothmarkymark7100]

Key word “used” you’ve been out of the game a long time by the sound of it. it is very simple. As simple as plugging the immo tool into the obd and creating a new wireless key fob. This isn’t key cloning either they’re basically wiping the original key fobs and programming new ones. But you of all people should know that if you used to program keys lol

[@__PJ__]

Bollards yes for at home, but the bastards can flog a keyless car in 5min.. There is no physical key to stop them. My keys are nowhere near my HSV which is locked up in a garage but they can still flog it if they can get into it especially at the shops. Or they slip an air tag under your car and follow you home.

[@Mr500RWHP]

What about FPV's with bush button? Are those cars targeted also?

[@CurtisLSA]

not sure sorry

[@Infraaa]

Can’t really do much as you need the key for the car to activate the ignition lockout that is pre installed in fpv’s to use the push to start button.

[@__PJ__]

They never really had true "push start" lucky them !

[@jonathanparle8429]

I can understand your hesitancy in making this video. I have been hugely concerned about vehicle theft and I think it is only going to get worse if only because Government regulations are reducing people's desire and ability to purchase new cars, thus making existing cars far more desirable. And with lunatics like Bowen in charge, petrol vehicles like Commodores will become even more coveted by thieves. A high end steering wheel lock should be a no-brainer regardless of any other theft prevention devices. I realise almost everything can be bypassed by professional thieves but every layer of protection adds time. A concealed GPS - even two of them in totally different locations on the vehicle - should also be strongly considered by people who own the most coveted petrol vehicles - Commodores and Falcons being prime targets.

[@CurtisLSA]

Well said i agree

[@itsonlyafl3shwound]

Just install another horn setup and immobiliser away from the wheel arch. Just like the old vk, vl commodores

[@CurtisLSA]

on the top of most peoples list for sure

[@truey90s]

Forget buying a obd port lock. Remove data wires from the obd port

[@CurtisLSA]

Good point

[@__PJ__]

Rewire your OBD II to another location, leave the OG one there so they dont look for it.

[@michaeljeffery9898]

You can get a OBD2 lock as well

[@CurtisLSA]

correct

[@aaronwendt-smith5910]

OBDSYNC can prevent the recoding of the car

[@darrenhenderson9338]

Put a fuel cut out switch somewhere only you know where it is

[@CurtisLSA]

Good thinking

[@jakepalmer1986]

These days with the amount of hackable computers on any car, the ultimate theft protection is just a key start and a manual gearstick. I knew a guy that saved his car from being stolen cause the kid that broke into it put the shifter into what he thought was drive but in fact it was 4th gear lol, and couldn't drive off.

[@snellproductions1209]

Juet curious guys i yas a vs which is in decent nick panels are straight just a 6 in her still id hate for her to get stolen. Iv heard its vfs getting affected if there any news on vs i realise they are old and probs arent hard to steal either way. What are some ways to improve a vs commodores security . Its a series 2 aswell

[@7s29]

This is similar to scum knocking off Dodge Hellcats in the states.

[@CurtisLSA]

pri.ks thats all they are

[@AnthonyCorbo-t4k]

This would have all been avoided if they used same technology as mobile with finger print start buttom

[@CurtisLSA]

good point

[@johnnyo7621]

Since holden fucked that up and put the horn(s) where it can be cut or unplugged people should move them so it's harder to get to

[@CurtisLSA]

yes its being done by most i think

[@MayOh812]

As a VF II Redline owner I couldn't sit through the dribble that you just delivered. That should have been a 30 second video.

[@Bradcarlo]

I have the same car. I just put a Killswitch in it.

[@jakebrown6291]

An actual key should be reintroduced into every new car and be mandatory by law.

[@CurtisLSA]

I hear you and agree

[@chrismbroome]

Throttle controllers are the cheapest and most effective option as they disable the throttle. However, like this video says put in an alarm relay so that even if they cut the wire it doesn't disable the alarm. Thieving Baster**

[@coreyhudson7326]

HOLDEN does still exist!!! Wish people would stop staying that they dont. Its not just Holdens that are getting knocked off. There has been other manufacturers as well and they arent doing anything either so people need to stop expecting Holden to come out and do something about whats happening!!!! Its upto the owner to put more security into their cars!!!!

[@__PJ__]

No they dont.. the company ceased to exist 5 years after calling it quits in 2019. Try and call them !!

[@666Buzzsaw]

What are you dribbling about?? Holden were done and dusted years ago. No dealerships, no genuine spare parts except for old stock.

[@pB-ox3qr]

It's point less putting an air tag tracking , professional thieves will use a bug finder ,then use a jammer to jam frequencies ... obd device sounds promising but not fool proof there's always a back door method , eg a master code to over ride - your best to have a good alarm system that communicates two way , for example if some one opens any door it sends a message to key fob . Also has a immobiliser, artificial voice alert on car plus more , they are quite expensive used on exotic cars and so on

[@andybeinginvaded8816]

Can always key in door and turn to dead lock them so they have to get in the window

[@__PJ__]

That was back with the VS... lol VF's dont have a "deadlock"

[@billsyd2004]

Do they also steal the key start commodores or only the button start ones. 🙏

[@CurtisLSA]

Difficult as key starts has an immobiliser . Push button can be removed as programmed key then blank fobs used as new keys

[@graemecouch5010]

Thanks for the heads up but i still dont understand how they open the door & do they need a blank key fob in the car to reprogram from the OBD Port ?

[@d.g.5279]

Yes they use a blank key fob, change the key programming of the car and set the blank to the new code. For the lock they either use a lock pick tool for the door or just the old fashion way with a screw driver

[@graemecouch5010]

Thanks i still dont understand how they just open a car door with a screwdriver ?

[@CurtisLSA]

blank key fob yes and no actual key to put in ignition as push button

[@Charmed19696]

It’s absolutely ridiculous. Really out of control. Are there any options to protect older commodores?

[@sdeeth]

I own the last model Caprice (LS3), are they stealing these too or we off the list for now.

[@CurtisLSA]

if its push button start then you would be on the list

[@loustath1583]

Is there a way to disconnect something from ignition system like pulling out a coil or something like in the old days ?

[@CurtisLSA]

could take the fuses out

[@gilliganzyland577]

Get some magnetic Ford badges, guaranteed it won't get knocked off

[@CurtisLSA]

lol

[@3800TURBO]

It's a shame Magnavolt isn't a reality.

[@coops-]

luckily i have a vz but i still know that all commodores get stolen the most out of every other car model its out of control

[@coppertop2924]

theives dont like noise,relocate the horn and install a louder one

[@CurtisLSA]

Agreed yes

[@jaysure8033]

My brother in law has relocated the horn and other security measures...but best and cheapest thing he did was buy a finger sign sticker for that inner guard...so as soon as anyone looks in there, its a big fck you, walk away now. 👌

[@andrewsmith8729]

Apple Air Tags and their Samsung equivalent might not be a good idea. From what I have read... these tags work by peer to peer sharing.... the tag relays to the nearest compatible phone/s and they relay the location to your phone etc. What I recall about this idea is if the thief uses those apps... they will see the air tags. I was looking at the wiring diagrams in a Haynes Manual for a VF V8 (Chapter 12-100 Diagram 10). Perhaps a switch at the start of the injector circuit.... and another one or two switches on the fuel pump circuit might make a car difficult to steal without a tilt tray or tow truck. That said, a keypad immobiliser looks the best solution. I have never been a big fan of the push start button..... perhaps it might be possible to shift the wiring to a more suitable location and use a keyed ignition.

[@CurtisLSA]

Yes tags relying on another smart phone near by to track its location . But they can be hidden well and the speaker in the tag can be removed so it doesn’t beep

[@andrewsmith8729]

@@CurtisLSA If the thieves have the apps on their phones.... and their phones are the closest... they will know the tags /tiles are in the car somewhere. At the end of the day, it is a balancing act..ya want the car back but the thieves will torch it to destroy any DNA evidence if necessary.

[@__PJ__]

Nope , your phone will let you know in a day or two there is an "unkown" tag following you. If you pass by a tag it sends its location back to the owner. If its slipped in your purse or wallet your phone will let you know there is one nearby. So if they flog your ride you have about 24hrs to find it.

[@andrewsmith8729]

@@__PJ__Who are you replying to? What I read about Air Tags and Samsung Tiles is they operate on a peer / relay network if they can not directly communicate with the owner's phone. The article I read tested both and claimed the 'tracking results' were patchy and nowhere near as accurate as other tracking systems. This article also said if the thieves were the 'closest' phone in the relay, the tag /tile, then connecting to the tracking up would detect the tag/tile.

[@__PJ__]

@@andrewsmith8729 I have 5 Samsung smart tags.. i put them in my bags when I travel... look them up. any Samsung phones relays there location without the user knowing, you have to opt in but thats how they work .

[@themacgyverinstitute5340]

I put a gps tracker in my car , then I went to the wreckers and got the obd2 port and a length of wiring from a wreck , I then unscrewed my active obd2 port and zip tied it up out of sight and installed the fake obd2 …… that will be hard to program :) or even to deal with , unless they use a tilt Tray , and hopefully my GPS tracker on watchdog mode should warn me. P.s look for people who have unusual shipping container activity ? What about a fake horn wire that’s really 240AC. ( joking)

[@xkimopye]

Love the last suggestion

[@CurtisLSA]

Razor wire around the horn could be an option also

[@bapcorp8303]

Well said Matt

[@CurtisLSA]

thanks

[@wayno23]

Some Hsv have data dot , are they useful or traceable?

[@CurtisLSA]

only if its been stripped and sold sep can trace it back to its original build

[@wayno23]

@CurtisLSA ok so they are useful, what's required to make them visible, purple light? Apparently my Maloo has them but never spotted any.

[@CurtisLSA]

@@wayno23 its a spray on parts across the vehilce . Looks like a patch of dirty that has flicked up on to say the calipers its all brown that cant be washed off or removed . You wont see them without HSVs special locators im told

[@wayno23]

@CurtisLSA cheers mate so they're useless unless you got that special hsv torch 🔦 😒

[@__PJ__]

@@wayno23 Nah, it looks like a little patch of cloudy glue.. should be one on your compliance plate .

[@max16]

if put a relay on the horn so it kills the fuel pump. atleast then once its cut they can never take off with it. better to get it towed to an auto electrical place then stolen.

[@__PJ__]

And when your driving and have to use the horn ??? Glad your not a car engineer pmsl

[@max16]

@@__PJ__ here is a nice little device... its called a continuity relay. measures the continuity between a wire and earth... if the wire is cut.. it triggers.... you can still use the horn no problem.. it measures voltage or resistance... if that resistance is 0.. IE a cut wire.. . -_- really. bet you never heard of them hey? maybe dont insult people.

[@__PJ__]

@@max16 Do you know how circuits work ? OHM's will be 0 yes when cut but to complete the circuit the horn blow would make the fuel pump cut off... go back to school....

[@max16]

@@__PJ__ ... omfg hHAHAHAAHAHA do YOU know how a circuit works? the ONLY time ohms are 0 ... is when there is no connection. because any length of wire that is connected and NOT cut has a resistance. this is called.... continuity... a continuity relay makes sure that it is still there.. that there is STILL A CIRCUIT!!! so amazingly a continuity relay measures the fact that the horn is still attached and there is a circuit FROM the horn to ground. no matter if you use it or not. it does not care. the only thing IT CARES ABOUT is that there is still an is a circuit to ground. so when you CUT that wire to the horn..the continuity relay will trip and amazingly.. stop the pump. you can use the horn as much as you like.. Jesus Christ -_- look it up. you are more then welcome to do so. btw. it was just a thought originally but you had to turn it into a fucking debate. who give a fuck what we do as long as we dont get are cars stolen.

[@ampsnstuff]

Are ZB commodores (I know it's a Vauxhall/Opel Insignia) subject to the same issues?

[@CurtisLSA]

There is criminals who want to steal a ZB?

[@__PJ__]

@@CurtisLSA The 9 speed AWD V6 Calais sports wagons crack for what they are !! Faster than any V6 Holden ever used.

[@bapcorp8303]

I take this class action as a joke. My family & I have several of the mentioned Holdens, not one of the mentioned problems

[@CurtisLSA]

It is a joke yes wont see much from it

[@daniellesoulard5215]

Dare I say I reckon there are employees at your respective state motor registry who could be supplying addresses to these scumbags, so if you have an option to register the car at a different address(relative/friend) then that could eliminate this avenue.

[@preemz45]

Don't touch a person's pride and joy. Work hard yourself and go buy one.

[@CurtisLSA]

Agreed

[@bencrosbie6003]

Take the fuel pump fuse or relay out

[@CurtisLSA]

It’s on the top of my list don’t worry

[@gav6808]

Nothing will stop PRO thief,i had a VK stolen in the late 90s ,it had 2 very hidden kill switches and the old club lock,(one switch was under my foot /underneath the carpet) and they still stole it,but it was found 12mths later too late as i had already been paid my insurance.

[@TAVOAu]

True, nothing will stop them, but the harder you make it for them, and the longer it takes to get it, the more chance is they'll move along to another one. If it's one specific car they're after, then yeah, they'll get it eventually.

[@billybluetwo2530]

I use the old school club lock 🔒

[@CurtisLSA]

lots are hopefully now

[@billybluetwo2530]

@@CurtisLSA no little grubs getting by a club lock lol

[@Up2mischief]

Is it just vf hsv or sv6 too

[@CurtisLSA]

Any push button start commodore

[@andrewlawson2022]

The old trusted club lock its visual and more time for the maggots to take!! Or bollards?

[@CurtisLSA]

More items the better

[@__PJ__]

Both !

[@bladeross5191]

The best thing anyone can do is disconnect your batteries. If you truly love and care about your VF commodore, and regardless of where you are at do the same thing, disconnect your battery.

[@myeverythingworld8123]

Hey m8 I'm just about to buy one but no one will insure I've tried all of them so there pushing them off the road into sheds do you know we're I can get insurance thanks for the warning vid

[@CurtisLSA]

Thanks for watching. Depends on age and the area or risk in that area these days for insurance

[@__PJ__]

Shannons

[@johnhutchinson9714]

Paul Maric's channel Car Expert has an excellent vid on this matter. Ross Reviews also has one showing a VF being stolen from a Browns Plains (QLD) carpark in broad daylight, just hooked by a flatbed with no plates on it. These scum are everywhere.

[@CurtisLSA]

Not sure who Paul is not heard of them but good to hear more KZbinrs are getting the notice out there more exposure the better

[@johnhutchinson9714]

@@CurtisLSA kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKndd3ajasysl80

[@Louie2309]

I don’t know why you were hesitant to make the video. I have seen 6 different videos today on exactly this topic, so even the dumb crims know how to do it now.

[@micko_]

Question is how the hell did they learn this and why did holden make it this ezy to nick em

[@CurtisLSA]

think most commodore variants have the horn in the front corner near the wheel arch. Issue is someone has created an app that allows keys to be programmed and these devices can be purchased online for nothing. Push button start doesnt need a key so previous commodore range harder to take as needed a key