Attention to Detail & Physics Comparison: World War Z Vs Left 4 Dead 2

[@spookyengie735]

Here is my personal opinion on why L4D2 is better in WWZ in this specific regard, i personally think L4D2 is better overall but i want to just focus on the thing shown in the video for now: - Gunplay and Visual: Im not gonna fault WWZ for having pretty mid first person since the core gameplay was original design for 3rd person. That said, the first person is quite lackluster, not too different than GTA 5 FP animation. - Zombie physics: L4D2 win this by far, primary due to but source engine but also the fact valve motion captured hundred of different animations for zombie responding to gunshot/ melee attack as well as dynamic body part system. This is more or less a product of it time as many game need that "extra" polish to compete during the time L4D2 release. Game nowadays doesn't need to do the same to get the attention, but when it come to longevity, this is why L4D2 still keep up with the time even for a game from 2009. - Gunplay: I think the gun themselves feel better in L4D2 mostly due to how zombie react to them, that said WWZ 3rd person animation isn't half bad. - Special infected: L4D2 designs just feel more unique and terrifying, WWZ animation is abit janky and the enemy look abit too generic, they not menacing enough. The 2 upside WWZ have is: - the MG feel significantly more powerful, L4D2 is a product of it time and valve hadn't figure out how to make those mounted MG feel powerful. WWZ 50 cal. have that Umpf and powerful feel. - The WWZ horde falling from the bridge is a scary/surreal sight, the general horde in l4d2 is better but the massive horde falling of the train bridge is terrifying.

[@GastonNox]

Pinned for 48 Hours mate :)

[@RatoNoiado]

Thats a pretty good take on the matter i feel the same way about both games

[@pixelaxel12]

Insane how motor source aged so well

[@PLYTATN]

Left 4 Dead 2 is still so good that Gabe refuse to make 3.

[@Markalovich]

Indeed. Left 4 dead 2 is peak of zombie fps shooter. Left 4 dead 3 is not really needed. What we need is constant update of Left 4 dead 2.

[@Jakiyyyyy]

@@PLYTATN It need at least a remaster to fix that damn hitboxes and add penalty system for griefers and ragequitters! 🤷🏻‍♀️🥴

[@Meartistthegodofdarkness]

@@Jakiyyyyyl4d2 hitboxes are great, wdym?

[@spookyengie735]

@@Markalovich Realistic answer is L4D3 is needed we want more demanding mod and and feature. L4D2 was and still is a amazing game, but it source code is dated and difficult to upgrade. I hope to see a L4D3 with all the great thing valve can cook up.

[@spookyengie735]

@@Meartistthegodofdarkness It really not, zombie head hitbox is notoriously inconsistent. For lower difficulty it doesn't really matter as body shot kill them more or less the same, but in expert realism and such, headshot is pretty much the only way smg can be good.

[@KatalushiKutemo-fx3mr]

Ngl Left 4 Dead 2 did it better. It looks more impressive for a 15 years old game

[@dakotahharper1218]

Yup it's the best zombie ever in my opinion 15 years and nothing could beat it

[@mrfacestab5758]

Glazer.

[@deloreandmc88]

@dakotahharper1218 15 years. Damn. And to think I remember going to the store to buy it, playing the swamp campaign...time does fly by.

[@AlphaGarg]

Mainly because it's at a smaller scale. 30 zombies isn't a lot compared to 500, even if L4D2 does do a LOT with those 30.

[@Jakiyyyyy]

This 15 years old game is still better than anything I have played nowadays.

[@TheMan-eo2fr]

The thing about left 4 dead is the cool stylistic artstyle and that they made the lighting look natural like most of modern source engine games like Portal 2

[@n0m4r22]

imo WWZ is a better successor to l4d2 than b4b

[@davibaggicorreia]

so true

[@LeonLego]

I don't know if I'll agree with you but whenever I look WWZ in terms of graphics and visual, it looks like a better version and successor from B4B.

[@mynameissongohanandamnotah17]

yeah much better than that cod zombie (b4b) literally

[@WhatABeautifulDuwangChew]

@@LeonLegomeh. Both WWZ and B4b look like plastic similar to those awful UE4/5 games. Their engine just doesn’t have that crisp graphics and dull shading that L4D2 has from Source Everything looks too shiny, the characters look like plastic dolls and the visuals don’t really feel impactful at all. One of the reasons why Source games are never gonna age out

[@LeonLego]

@@WhatABeautifulDuwangChew Yeah, the way I look like it seems like WWZ does look like B4B. IMO, the only successor or might similar to L4D2 is Dying Light 1 in terms of gore and ragdoll physics. However, Dying Light 1 mechanics focuses on parkour, stealth and melee fights.

[@Acthu69]

impressive features on World war Z: machinegun hordes events impressive features on L4D2: everything else

[@horcruxseverus]

Back when they still made games with love

[@triluck1450]

for a game over 15 years old, l4d2 still surprised me with high detail, best replay value and massive content from community. WWZ is fun but lacking those things makes the me don't want to touch the game after few times playing

[@denimschaffer9439]

L4D can never be beaten but at least WWZ while not perfect has a good amount of progression, weapon variety and impressive looking hordes compared to most zombie horde shooters I played, but I personally think Vermintide and Darktide are the true spiritual succesors to L4D they may not beat L4D but the spirit is still somewhat there

[@Toruuuuuuuuuu101]

6:11 in left 4 dead 2 while using chainsaw on infected, there will be a chance that the survivor will say something like a celebration. (Example is nick one of the survivors, will yell indicating that he enjoys using chainsaw on the infected or special infected.) If you somehow don't know what I'm talking about, so here's the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqDVgJ2JmK6jlaMsi=QOoNICjYp4DCePIP

[@itsgabriel2169]

While for Ellis he says “die die my darling” quote

[@TammyBoy]

Left 4 Dead 2 feels more immersive compared to WWZ and B4B

[@joseph891]

We don't talk about B4B

[@miauproduction9097]

I was gona say this

[@ChristianMendozza]

The weapon sounds in WWZ seem like they were made with a Disney balloon.

[@jibbygibs25]

i give credit to world war z, but l4d2 i think is still better

[@alexnewtron3579]

Damn, for a 2009 game it’s honestly amazing to see how greatly it holds up to this day.

[@Caramel_Custard_Flan]

I play both game and i must say, while WWZ is lacking in some aspects, it offers a different experience than L4D2. WWZ have weapon progression and perks + a lot more weapons to choose from. they also got classes and skills to level up, which you can choose what passive skill you wish to use on your class. L4D2 offer a more simpler gameplay and great amount of details (like character mourning when one of the four survivors died for example) with modding capabilities, along with community servers. Both is fun in It's own way and i often hop around the two games for a different experience. (if you didn't know, WWZ came much earlier than Darktide and Space Marines 2, which come from the same developers and publisher, Sabre Interactive)

[@johnlime1469]

Different is good, I think. It's rare for someone to try to make the same thing as an acclaimed predecessor and manage to make a superiror version.

[@denimschaffer9439]

Trying to beat Left 4 Dead will always be a impossible feat that nobody can accomplish but taking inspiration and doing your own spin on that formula is a perfect way of doing it the only way Left 4 Dead 2 would be beaten is if Valve ever makes a sequel

[@delusionaltwats6969]

W40K: Darktide is made by Fatshark ( the devs behind Warhammer: Vermintide games ) not Saber Interactive.

[@pajamma5570]

I'd say the one thing WWZ has over L4D is being able to see massive hordes of zombies pile over each other like a human tidal wave. But overall L4D2 is just such a better looking and feeling game.

[@nimroddominice4048]

Left 4 Dead FTW. Just slap WWZ graphics to L4D and call it a remaster then bam!

[@natannoel5974]

How about *World War Z* & *L4D* vs *B4B.*

[@nguyenngockhiem1539]

B4B have no chance XD

[@natannoel5974]

@nguyenngockhiem1539 Yep That Right. 😁👍

[@f.b.l.9813]

L4D > WWZ > B4B

[@christianmogol960]

Tbh the lurker and the bull had me wondering about their design in seperate occasions; lurker sometimes just insta pin you without any prior warning (audio queues or what not) and the bull in one occasion can u-turn a corner, idk if the bull tracks players mid charge but from that one case alone is a very extreme example

[@springmen1922]

Left 4 dead 2 Molotov: Realism ❌ Fun ✅ Hell yeah

[@KobyBryan69]

L4d2 wins🎉

[@ianangelomacalalad2577]

the sounds of ak in l4d2 is 🔥.. for me l4d2 is better for an 15y/o game..

[@7Roxer]

I think the hordes in L4D2 are way scarier. Even though I haven't played WWZ, it just looks like they run at you, while in L4D2 they don't just run towards you, they try to dodge your shots and get around to where you can't hit them and quickly overwhelm you.

[@WitchHunterSiegfried]

L4D2’s weapon animations are a bit dated, good thing is animation packs exist to fix that minor gripe (I use the Modern Warfare animations), even vanilla though they’re still better then WWZ’s though ngl.

[@saulbadman3]

This is why art direction is more important than graphics, it brings life to the whole game.

[@pixelaxel12]

Insane how motor source aged so well

[@wolf1kingz]

Very good video, you will have some commands to improve the FPS in WWZ, for me it runs at less than 50fps haha ​​greetings from Peru

[@GastonNox]

Thanks for the tips :) i try my very level best in every video still u will learn more as u grow :) Happy to see u again

[@myx8296]

Why L4D2 still hold up this well, it gonna take forever to make L4D3 😭

[@DavidOna]

the only thing thats better in WWZ is the graphics given the modern tech and engine used to developing it. Left 4 dead beat won this and it's not even close.

[@AES_Animation9]

the Addons in Left 4 Dead 2 is make the game keep alive until now, we can add mods and new map

[@imadudewithissues]

l4d2 has story in its gameplay statwise theyre the same but their dialogues do alot in the l4d2 cast nick has the most experience with medkits while ellis doesn't nick has an exwife and tells that they sound like the witch ellis has keith and he is memed alot rochelle was a news reporter so shes the master negotiator if you play as her talking to radios coach really likes burgertank

[@chickenwitrice761]

Left 4 dead looks way better

[@TiringaSheIby]

Left 4 Dead 2>>>>>

[@Voersie]

By the way, blood splaters DO exist in Left 4 Dead 2, just they don't show up with "r_drawvgui 0". When you'll type "r_drawvgui 1" to return interface, blood splaters will return.

[@samzhao3187]

L4D2's Magnum just looks insanely huge, except that L4D2 is still the best zombie game until these days

[@albionsinani7873]

its weird that l4d1 had corpse collision ragdoll but l4d2 doesn't and in l4d1 you could see your legs but they abandoned that mechanic for some reason thankfully mods exist.

[@blackhood7200]

World War Z is the better Left 4 Dead successor than Back 4 Blood will ever be.

[@L0n3ly43th3arc]

Alright. Nicely done. Now let's see it compete with Call of Duty Zombies.

[@Borisyadne]

Main things L4D2: zombies and animations of zombies WWZ: massive hordes and graphics

[@Borisyadne]

Also sound and music in L4D and L4D2 is so impressive, eerie and sometimes scary

[@AlphaGarg]

Let's not forget that while L4D2 has at most 30 zombies on the map at a given time, WWZ can have 500. WWZ's particle effects and such are thus much more toned down compared to L4D2's so as to avoid performance issues. They probably could've at least had those for smaller hordes, but given how horrible the modern games industry is to work in, I don't blame them for not doing so. So even though WWZ is newer, it doesn't use the hardware for pretty graphics or blood particles, but rather to make sure it can handle those huge mobs of zombies. Looking at their new Warhammer 40K game, we can see that they've either gotten past whatever technical hurdle prevented them from doing that, or they just had the time to optimise a system to make sure blood and such didn't drop performance too much. Or hardware just progressed enough to where it's not a problem anymore to them. Either way, I think they deserve praise for actually doing something impressive and new while so many "AAA" companies put out half-baked slop.

[@AlphaGarg]

Addendum: the map sizes in WWZ are also a lot larger, which either requires higher precision math in both the CPU and GPU, or aggressive optimisation on things like physics. Which would explain the stiff looking ragdolls on the zombies, and how they very quickly stop moving - the less moving bodies, the less ragdolls need to be simulated. I should probably also mention that animation quality is NOT an optimisation thing. That much is likely just down to inexperience on the team's part, or them using the same animation system for all enemies, making even the 'special infected' equivalent look stiff compared to the much older ones in L4D2.

[@Capewearer]

Let's be fair, L4D2 gore is overexxagerrated to absurd. It doesn't show true weapon's power, even the pistol deals the same giblets as shotgun.

[@Carry-r2q]

zombie wwz model I like charger riot Because it looks realistic But still L4D is the best

[@imadudewithissues]

sounds need work the guns feel weak

[@isonny2010]

I preferred left 4 dead 2 with super horde mod than world war z

[@hansfury7003]

L4D2 Zombie Preanimation ragdoll are awesome (IDK if it's called Preanimation Ragdoll) It's just, the hit impact is better in L4D2 IMO

[@KongouSenpai]

Bull stopped at the time he grab a survivor, and charger still rushing + knock down entire team on his path (sry for my bad EL)

[@smoke3dR]

Bulls can knock down an entire time too, just not like the Charger simply because its a guy in Riot gear, and not mutated

[@TheRedShogun]

Left 4 Dead 2 Very Badass Game, even 15 years later!!!

[@hito-sama]

There's something that i felt weird... They're zombies, why did zombies look in pain when it's on fire?

[@MaxPainTMG1811]

Because zombie in l4d are not actually an ZOMBIES. They are still humans but can’t controlling themselves from the virus.

[@sanchikotjendrakasih9138]

L4D infected kind of similar with infected in 28 days later movie. This is why L4D infected attack to kill human instead eating human like Resident Evil or other zombie games.

[@ML_Tachanka]

They still feel everything and from their perspective the survivors are the monsters, but like others said, they can’t really control themselves. Some specials even talk, well mostly the charger and you really need to listen closely to it.

[@Thethewho]

wtf that grenade launcher in wwz looks like a fart

[@vrty21]

still better than back 4 blood though.

[@markevannebrea]

WWZ and L4D are all amazing and kickass 😅 And there no Philippine map in WWZ T_T

[@nonedibledonut]

There an Philippine map in l4d2?

[@nukeem1832]

you cant compare those wwz is third person the first person was an After thought, has way WAY more Zombies on Screen and way more Features. l4d2 is amazing for a 15 year old game but thats about it, wwz is far superior im every aspect

[@imadudewithissues]

youve liked all my comments you deserve a sub even the replies like holy

[@GastonNox]

Thank you so much! Your support truly motivates me to keep creating and sharing more content. Every subscriber counts!

[@AzzamfurqonArkana]

Nice vidio

[@aaronbooc8016]

I LOVE BOTH,

[@MaGa2024xx]

Only people plays left 4 dead 2 but not 1? Omg 😕

[@imadudewithissues]

l4d1 lacks the charger spitter and jockey and melees l4d2 is basically the upgrade and the l4d1 campaign is in 2 so not really that important

[@CBTechID]

Why you need L4D1 when L4D1 itself is included in L4D2

[@imadudewithissues]

@@CBTechID dude you just repeated what i said

[@CBTechID]

@@imadudewithissues yes, but simplified

[@imadudewithissues]

@@CBTechID k

[@L4d2_player]

Left will always be better than many other modern games about zombies lmao😊

[@Komyeta]

L4D2 is so fucking good if you’re using my gun sounds mod

[@sinwithagrin4243]

it will always be L4D2.

[@yeimylima4171]

Por eso me es casi incomparable L4D2

[@Brutal_MC]

L4D2 is better!

[@SkullKiD096]

Wwz is better, more variety than l4d2

[@linuspauling7926]

Left 4 Dead 2 senti mais vontade de jogar parece ser mais interessante

[@pinguinocremoso]

wwz charger is so wacky lol

[@GreedKempS]

5:36 to the moon

[@tnmgamingch.1935]

Weapons in WWZ look weaker than L4D2's

[@V-95K]

Since when WWZ turned into FPS??

[@darkplay5202]

by pressing "v" in game

[@soulghost9718]

There is another world war Z game? Or is it the same game but in first person? Nvm it is the same game lol

[@f.b.l.9813]

WWZ is great but L4D is still better

[@jose-t5t-8]

WWZ this left 4 dead 3

[@WhatsThisOwO]

At least it's not like B4B, that one was ass

[@captainnutt2995]

I love both game and is better than B4B

[@calucz3772]

L4d better has everything they could mod and copy other games

[@RandyMarsh..]

Anyone wanna play L4D2 HMU

[@CriperedscioT]

I have tried World War Z thanks to gamepass, and bro, it just sucks! I can't believe they steel sell it at 50 bananas!!! 🤣🤣

[@LaTiaPAT]

LEFT4DEAD2 WINNER

[@kolemjdouci3350]

l4d2 is better

[@SWAT_benjamin]

Left 4 Dead is better

[@KotoneAisha]

is it be or is WWZ feels so dull?

[@markarjey5593]

first person mode feels dull

[@Markalovich]

It lacks realms. Game companies really only care about money, not players' experience

[@DMlTREl]

Feel fine to me, L4D can also become dull if you play it much

[@Jakiyyyyy]

@@DMlTREl It's not. The replay value in that game is way higher. Plus easy installation of mods to keep changing the experience and look. 🤧🥲