America Soon? England's Guns: Duty to Right to Disarmament with Joyce Malcolm, 2nd Amendment

[@AttyTomGrieve]

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[@kerryhatcher]

Hey sir, you mentioned posting some stats regarding self defense to robbery. I don't see that, am I just missing it? Thanks! ref 39:08

[@AttyTomGrieve]

According to the data in a Department of Justice National Crime Victimization Survey, the probability of serious injury during an attack is 2.5 times higher for women who offer no resistance to their attacker compared to women who do resist with a firearm. If we compare that to women who do resist but without a gun, the women who resist with a gun are about 4 times more likely to not be seriously injured compared to those who resist without a firearm. How do these statistics look for men? Basically the same, but with a tighter dispersion between resisting with and without a firearm. Men who behave like sheep and go along with their attackers without offering resistance are 1.4 times more likely to be seriously injured compared to those who offer resistance by way of a firearm. The same correlation emerges when we look at what happens when men resist but without a gun compared to when they resist with a gun. Men who resist without a gun are about 1.5 times more likely to be seriously injured compared to if they had a gun. ​@@kerryhatcher

[@jordancambridge4106]

Its punishable by death for civilians to even possess a single bullet in England. Even the police can not legally carry a weapon. Only the special police aka Royal Guard are allowed muskets only but then you have the Black Guard aka Parliament Security that can carry fully automatic weapons. To put this simply this is why dictatorship is a garbage government system and Parliament is a dictatorship. Monarchies are a form of dictatorship. Parliament was created by nobles which are really rich people generally related or friends of the king that somehow gained enough power to dictate laws and they subverted the power of the crown in which Parliament has been the actual ruling party of all of Europe for centuries and they have stripped away the powers of the existing governments taking control over the governments and becoming a mega dictatorship. Basically the people had their entire rights removed by a subversion government that stole the rights of even the existing government not just the rights of the people. The people of England were already use to being used as toys by the crown so they didn't even bat an eye when they were used like slaves by a new government system. The actual truth is the people were blatantly slaves to the crown being used as toys for the crown for the crown's amusement including the crown walking into random people's homes and raping the little girls and then forcing the families to kill each other for the crowns amusement. Basically to actually explain how England became what it is well its simple. Crown ruled for so long that when the nobles took over and renamed themselves as Parliament the people batted an eye and they excepted everything and defended it because in truth Europe is spineless losers who are ruled by rich morons who have grown more and more corrupt over the centuries and who don't see regular people as humans but life stock and Europeans have dulled their fangs aside and excepted being live stock. That is correct Europeans are nothing but life stock to a corrupted group of moron dictators and the European life stock loves it that way.

[@orangutanjuice]

I remember the two years I spent in London. Gun crime = just about non-existent. Stabbings = so commonplace that I actually feel safer in South Africa that I did walking their streets at night. People are the problem, not the tools they use.

[@colecol2]

Correct. In an unarmed society, even without knives and machetes, the criminals just use fists and feet, and if they’re not big enough/ skilled enough, they just add participants.

[@loafoffloof3420]

"It is the person who kills"

[@Interdiction]

Guns are on the streets but it is mainly all gang related so joe public will not see it

[@rplewis]

Yet it's well established that there were no m@rders until the first gun was created. Hundreds of thousands of years of peace were ended by firearms.

[@Patriotusa44]

Evil gonna Evil. Imagine that ~

[@nothim7321]

That was Benjamin Franklin, allegedly, who said (paraphrasing) He who trades his freedom for security deserves neither and will soon find he as none.

[@masonmax1000]

facts

[@fire_tower]

Yes although the context was around a tax dispute about a rich family trying to avoid paying taxes that would fund the defenses in the French Indian War.

[@nothim7321]

@@fire_tower and? Does the sentiment not stand when given the context?

[@timbassett9132]

Unfortunately today too many will gladly trade freedom for comfort

[@rustyrebar123]

​@@timbassett9132and they still get neither

[@subdawg1331]

silly Brits gave up firearms for both safety and security and now have neither... why they ignored history

[@robgrey6183]

They will learn to love their M*sl*m overlords.

[@chupacabra304]

Ol’ Benjamin Franklin is chucklin’ from his grave 😅

[@iiiKingLongSwipeiii]

​@@chupacabra304 chuckling? You mean screaming and turning over

[@oreillysc1]

The founding fathers are collectively laughing at all of us. Currently free speech is censored, 2A is heavily regulated, 4th constantly violated with mass surveillance, 7th trump didn’t get a jury trial and I’m sure there are others, 8 th, and Monty others. We the people gave and continue to allow it to happen. Its our fault

[@chupacabra304]

@@iiiKingLongSwipeiii maybe if that was already done here, but IF I remember my history correctly … he spent his days politicking and garnering support for fighting against the lobster backs

[@jimslaton9057]

I notice that the nobility, the lords and dukes and ladies, none of them were required to give up THEIR guns. Only the poor and the middle class had to become defenseless. Funny how that works.

[@johnh.tuomala4379]

In the U.K. they have no written constitution, and the most basic principle of British law is: “Parliamentary Primacy”, which means that NOBODY can tell Parliament what to do. What rights you have in the U.K. are based upon your social class, not upon any set of constitutional rules inherent to being a British citizen. The social classes are: 1. The Sovereign (King or Queen). 2. The Royal Family. 3. The Nobility. 4. The Peerage(knights and lords/ladies). 5. Members of Parliament. 6. Members of the Public (everybody else).

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

Yes, they were. Only shot guns.

[@jamesartmetal8403]

People who give up their weapons are FOOLS! Only Communists and Cowards take weapons from their people.

[@jimslaton9057]

@@StudentDad-mc3pu They got to keep their rifles, too.

[@CivilizedWarrior]

It will work the same way with our politicians and probably also the police here. It is only We The Peasants who can’t defend ourselves.

[@HVSJR-n5q]

The differences between being a Subject and being a Citizen. They are a Representative Monarchy. We are a Constitutional Republic. We are Citizens and not Subjects.

[@Stomper67]

Spot on! I am descended from men who would NOT be ruled. Sic Semper Tyrannis

[@chupacabra304]

We are an oligarchy pretending to be a constitutional republic in a trench coat but your point still stands

[@59four]

WERE a constitutional republic. The veil has been slowly lifted, starting in 2001 with the Patriot Act, then completely ripped off with the appointment (without votes) of Harris during an active "presidency". In my heart i believe the Constitution and Bill of Rights were incredible documents. Both have been failed by the will of the people governed by those documents to uphold them. They have become toilet paper.

[@anarchytelevision8445]

Look at the legal definitions of the words, citizen, person, resident, if you think you are any of these, you really do need CPR.🤨

[@HVSJR-n5q]

@@anarchytelevision8445 if you look at a passport on a British one it says Subject of. A USA passport says Citizen. I will always think of myself as a Citizen I am not a Subject of anyone.

[@joshuatoler1965]

self defense is a human right of all people end of story!!!!!!

[@mb9662]

Slaves don’t have rights, they have rulers and masters and kings.

[@Marek-o3u]

There are no absolute human rights. "Should be" perhaps. What rights did the people have during the holocaust?

[@MrBottlecapBill]

@@Marek-o3u They had the same rights, they just made the wrong choice to exercise them. So they paid the price, and the nation paid the price.

[@Marek-o3u]

@@MrBottlecapBill Human rights are a luxury belief. or a Christian belief. They fly out the window quick enough in war or in totalitarian regimes.

[@BjarneLinetsky]

@@Marek-o3u evidently you missed the part about the Enlightenment,; individual rights, unalienable rights. What happened to Gaza after the outrage of Oct. 7?

[@doc8579]

“Shall NOT be infringed” is very clear and a smart protection our founding fathers added.

[@shadowpathfinder7723]

Yet no one stands up to enforce it

[@Nerotique]

Yet they infringe on it all day long.

[@data_abort]

The bill of rights is framed as restrictions on Congress for good reason. No court was supposed to have the ability to take your rights away. That which wasn't taken by the government was delegated to the states and the people.

[@SuperDriver379]

Strange how people are lulled into compliance in giving up their arms as a means of self protection, under the guise that “society will protect you” and I’m sitting here wondering exactly how they plan on doing that if society’s given away it’s only means of protection?

[@tomwolf8721]

​@@SuperDriver379Plus they opened their borders and cities to people that hated them. Rapes and knifings went through the roof. Now if British citizens complain about that; they are arrested themselves. The British leadership is criminal. Now British citizens are arrested for using different surname than the insane think they want to be. An island of insanity.

[@Interdiction]

Handguns are readily available in the UK on the black market . There are a lot of guns out there via EUROPE . We the citizens had our handguns taken off us because of a knee jerk reaction to a shooting . The biggest thing is it never made any difference to the guns available to CRIMINALS .

[@paulbarclay4114]

it wasnt a "reaction" to anything just like now they are taking away all your remaining rights show me you dont know how the world works

[@CoperliteConsumer]

Of course not, they don't follow laws lmfao

[@TheShorterboy]

it wasn't knee jerk they have always hated you having the ability to shoot back and the police unions are part of that group

[@gunnergrunt69]

Gun laws only apply to law abiding citizens, not criminals. That is why they are are called criminals!

[@DarksteelHeart]

It's like I've been saying for 10 years. "Taking guns away from law abiding citizens does nothing to stop the black market gun trade."

[@joshs4382]

As Thomas Jefferson said " laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are never inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants. "

[@Gizziiusa]

As an American, I do think there has been definitive erosion of firearm knowledge, possession, ownership, etc. to the point that in many parts of the country, there is an overwhelming stigma of negativity in regards to such (to the point that some in society even think it illegal to have them, use them, etc. (newly moved Californians to Texas calling 911 on people for target shooting in their backyards for example)). The Scouts (formally Boy Scouts) removed their firearm patch from their list years ago, etc. Seems its the Fabian (slow cook) method being used on American society for it to eventually disappear.

[@tims9448]

It appears that even though they restrict their citizens from owning firearms .they still use every other type of weapon to commit a crime. Which is exactly what would happen anywhere in the world.

[@michaels5676]

Exactly

[@shinjiikari1021]

Bruv you want to get shanked mate?

[@carguy3028]

But if the civilians are disarmed the peasants are easier to control. Also peasants don’t have a right to self defense, to me it seems as if they want people to think they are unworthy of defense like their betters are.

[@johnh.tuomala4379]

@@carguy3028In the U.K., if you’re a Member of Parliament, you can legally own just about any sort of firearms that you like. That’s up to and including fully-automatic stuff. No license is necessary. Of course if you should lose or resign your seat in Parliament, you have 48 hours (I believe) to turn everything over to the local constabulary.

[@AndrewSanders-d1p]

Actually, gangsters in the U.K still manage to get guns while everyone else is disarmed and defenseless. They have even made hatchets and machetes illegal because naturally any tool will always be used for violence.

[@joshuarichard6827]

In America when I buy a gun I have to get permission from the federal government and ATF before I can take my gun home. Background checks, 4473. It is not right!

[@nathanielerskine1875]

Colorado has instituted a 3 day waiting period. BS.

[@gifthorse3675]

I essentially had to go through the ATF form 4 and wait two weeks to get a temporary permit to buy long guns in Hawaii and you had to register all of them too.

[@davidr1676]

​@@gifthorse3675enough to make a person decide to steal the weapons of law enforcement and stash them for when situations deteriorate. Remove all markings before properly "sealing" them up.

[@firefly9838]

And the left has the audacity to pretend that we don't have background checks and all they want are "common sense background checks"😐

[@robgrey6183]

In Wyoming I can buy a gun on the street for cash without a background check. I've done it many times. You should move here from America.

[@nigelbagguley7606]

All the way from England, America please, NEVER GIVE UP YOUR GUNS.NOT EVER If you want to know why just look at the state of my country.

[@Snakebloke]

I'm an Englishman. I DO understand the necessity of the 2nd Ammendment, and I sorely miss the rights I was never afforded at birth. 'Society will protect you' tell that to my sister who was assaulted at 12 years old... ...or to myself and my family who were threatened with machetes and molotov cocktails. My neighbour sliced his wrist open with a lightshade that shattered and fell all over him this week. We called an ambulance, and they arrived.... 35 MINUTES LATER! 35 minutes?! It's a good job I had First-Aid training or they'd have been sending a hearse... ...yet they want us to 'trust' the government to protect us?! Good Lord this boils my blood.

[@cabnbeeschurgr6440]

I'm not reccomending you go full boogaloo, but I'm just saying it's clear that the government will not reform and it doesn't have your best interests in mind when it legislates. I would encourage you to read the works of a certain Philip Luty.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

Shocking as that is it is not a good argument. Your 12 year old sister would have assaulted regardless of gun laws as she would not have had one. Children are still assaulted every day in the USA. Unfortunately up to 30 per week are also killed by guns.

[@Callsign_Sturm]

​@@StudentDad-mc3puMy parents grew up with guns at that age. Also small town schools worked more like homrschools.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@@Callsign_Sturm You don't arm children.

[@Callsign_Sturm]

@StudentDad-mc3pu Actually, I do what I want because society and their Overton window have failed to protect people for centuries. My parents walked to school and rode dirt bikes to school with 12s and ARs living in the country and racked them on the racks they used to have in classroom. Don't public school your kids anyway. Don't formula feed and daycare is bad as well. Really, dual income parenting makes it hard to make decent free thinker anyways. My older brother was taking a dump when he heard a commotion outside his window. A group of kids had walked 30 feet into his lawn and started fighting outside his bathroom window. One of them left their student ID in his flowerbed. He stuck it on the stop sign and told the local chatter to come get it. They tried to berated him and said he had a responsibility to return the badge to the school. I'm sorry, who let their kids trespass, commit assault on someone else's property, and then leave their badge? Not his problem.

[@trucker-dave]

Anyone who trades a little liberty for a little safety, has neither the right for liberty or safety. Ben Franklin

[@HVSJR-n5q]

@@trucker-dave and true 250 years later. A wise man.

[@CivilizedWarrior]

“Anyone who would trade their PERMANENT liberty, to purchase a little TEMPORARY safety, deserves NEITHER, and will lose BOTH.” You left out a small, but important part. That gets misquoted all the time though. Just the nature of the internet.

[@dragonf1092]

American citizens are supposed to be free we answer to no kings,lords, parliament we are our own monarch/sovereign. Government is not supposed to be our rulers.

[@johnh.tuomala4379]

Our mistake was not politically cleansing this country of the Loyalists (Tories) after the American War of Independence. It was them who gave us political parties (nowhere mentioned in the Constitution).

[@randykalish7558]

The U.S. is an oligarchy, for about a century.

[@jimslaton9057]

@@randykalish7558 all they back to the beginning. who d'ya supposed got together back in 1787 to write that constitution?

[@Marconius-SPQR]

Absolutely ! In America EVERY man is a king. It's only the size of the kingdoms that differ.

[@Gizziiusa]

Therein is the problem. Seems to me some to many WANT to be ruled. Do you think we, as Americans are being ruled ? Does it feel like we are being ruled over ? For me, its an absolute yes to both questions.

[@jamesfairmind2247]

I'm a Brit, first timer, great content, I liked and subscribed straight away. In the same year that America declared its independence in 1776, one of my ancestors, William Murray, became the first Earl of Mansfield. More importantly, he became Lord Chief Justice in 1756. Although born a Scottish Presbyterian, he believed that every soul had the right to worship according to their chosen Christian orthodoxy. Due his relaxed view, he was targeted in the 1780 Popery Riots and his house in Bloomsbury Square in London was burnt to the ground by anti-Catholic rioters. He escaped with his life but he also owned Kenwood House in Hampstead Heath just outside the city (one of the finest remaining Palladian Houses designed by Robert Adam), he knew it would be the next target of the rioters so he made haste in his coach with his wife and 2 loyal servants who fought their way through the London mob during which my ancestor the Earl shot 4 rioters himself with a pair of Freeman flintlocks that I still proudly own. He had a young 12 year old messenger boy in his legal chambers who happened to be a very good rider so he mounted him on the fastest horse that he had in his stables with instructions to ride to a pub just outside Kenwood which still stands to this day called The Spaniards Inn, and to hand the Landlord a letter sealed by his signet ring in wax. He requested the landlord put tables full of ale across the road to Kenwood and to get the rioters drunk, he pledged to underwrite the entire pubs cellar. The 12 year old boy rode through the riots like the wind dodging stones and bottles thrown at him by the mob and the efforts of those who tried to steal the horse and then rode straight to The Spaniards Inn and then, without even dismounting, handed the letter to the landlord of the establishment who immediately complied, blocked the road with tables full of free ale and got the rioters pissed whilst the Earl took a short cut around the main road in the coach and secured the gates of Kenwood with armed men. The ruse worked, and Kenwood stands to this day and is open to the public. Thats the best result of the epic adventure for the general public and diehard enthusiasts of Robert Adam, but for me, the best part is that I still have the pistols. I may have have lost my beloved Colt 1911 and Browning P35 that were taken from me in 1997, but I still have those. God bless the Second and all my sane and sensible thinking American cousins, I will be moving to the States soon because it is the only place left on this Earth where freedom can be defended.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

Good luck. You can't walk down the street without worrying about a drive by.

[@RT81775]

@@StudentDad-mc3pu in what part of the US did you experience a drive by when you visited or lived there?

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@@RT81775 Texas. I was literally banned from walking between my relatives houses in the summer. The side walks were covered in weeds. Kids did not even use the recreation grounds. I know it's not the same everywhere. I'm New York people are out and about. I once walked from the train station in Chicago to a youth hostel up town with a back pack. The owner was astonished I was still alive. The statistics are that 1 in 3 people in the US know someone affected by gun crime.

[@RT81775]

@@StudentDad-mc3pu cool same state as me. I go for walks all the time in my working class neighborhood in a major metropolitan area, many times after dark. I wave to the folks who are out with their kids, walking their dogs, etc. I spend plenty of time in public outside. So do lots of people in the surrounding residential areas. The only time I’ve seen a gun being wielded outside of private property is at a gun range. Frankly stray dogs are the most dangerous thing I’ve encountered. Everyone owns guns though, including me. I carry one every day. Not because I need to, because I can. I shoot competitively as well, as often as I can. I’m glad you at least seem to have some experience in the US. I will take your word for what you shared and not call you a liar. I have no experience with the UK and I won’t make the mistake I was thinking you were making - assuming you know about a county because of what biased media tells you is going on in a single city. 😉

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@@RT81775 I'm sure you can. Texas is a big state. There is still, statistically, a very low chance of being shot anywhere in the states, risk is perception. I actually regularly did walk places much to the great worry of my in-laws. What is also a fact is the murder rate in the US is six times higher than the UK, and 40,000 US citizens are killed by a gun every year. Guns in society mean lots more people die. Simple as. We moved back to the UK, where we met, and health care is free and violence is much rarer.

[@frank64409]

Gun rights. The government is a hungry beast. Give them one thing, and they will want something more untell we have no rights left.

[@Aloysius10]

@@frank64409 People would have to start rembering that govt are servants and not nobility. The people have to stop being lazy.

[@KenWilson-j1j]

Tom, how did we even get to the unconstitutional requirement of having to get government permission to exercise a constitutional right to begin with?

[@emtpete010]

Gun control actually goes back to slavery. It was originally introduced to prevent the black slaves from obtaining a firearm to have power over the slave owner.

[@Detritus0311]

and how can we reverse this?

[@gifthorse3675]

I love firearms and wish there were far fewer laws but we have an insane amount of crime and mental illness for a supposed first world country

[@shariyfjames]

@@gifthorse3675 that is no excuse to dismiss and revoke my god given right (common law)

[@BigTomInTheBasement]

​@@gifthorse3675we don't really have much crime considering the large non-homogeneous US population. If you also consider how many people are armed in the USA, we hardly have a problem. The media and government are overblowing the issue to get what they actually want.

[@MrAvidOutdoorsman]

I was raised by authoritarian people one a cop the other a teacher, and to this day they still don't believe in self protection,,they depend on the state,, they are both my real parents and don't like me and my stance on their opinion anymore. Very sad.

[@seankeating2724]

English?

[@MarthaTorres-gu7vd]

They are gov dependants. No different then a welfare rat. There just willing to give some time to the gov for money the gov takes from everybody else. Most the time. These people are communist control freaks.

[@MarthaTorres-gu7vd]

Never met a teacher or cop who were not the same as your parents. Lol.

[@Remainsofaruineddeadcursed-d7t]

Yea, they have 2 of the worst jobs in terms of how they effect society. Could only be worse if they were also politicians. Sorry to say it but your parents made the world a worse place. But thankfully you at least do not have all the same views

[@Basketofdeplorables173]

The reason that they are in that situation is that the people were of the mindset that rights come from men and words written on paper. Every person on earth had the right to self defense, whether their government is violating their rights is what is in question.

[@stillcantbesilencedevennow]

Exactly. This is why we can't pretend to be a "secular" society. They're "rights" given to us by dint of God wanting us to be able to determine our own fates. Something the forefathers believed in VERY much.

[@Remainsofaruineddeadcursed-d7t]

Having rights is something intrinsic to humans, regardless of god or government, even the saint and philosopher Thomas Aquinas realized this to be the truth. There need be no grounding in faith for it to be the case. I know you have your beliefs and because of that you take anything to he supportive of that. But societies have to be secular to stay on rational paths, because faith is the abandonment of reason. Faith based societies often devalue worldly concerns, degrading the society and being oppressive of those who do not shake the majority religion. People have every right to believe in whatever imaginary being they desire. but society run that way is like society shooting itself in both feet before a marathon.

[@Basketofdeplorables173]

@@Remainsofaruineddeadcursed-d7t where did my comment mention religion, or my beliefs?

[@Basketofdeplorables173]

@@Remainsofaruineddeadcursed-d7t or are you responding to the other guy I guess?

[@PapaD93]

Saw her in an interview a while ago, got her book immediately. Fantastic book on gun ownership, rights, and the meaning of the militia!

[@PapaD93]

To keep and bear arms that is. I haven’t read the other book yet

[@treeamigo8447]

Just when I think women shouldn't vote, I'm introduced to this woman. Thank you Professor.

[@gifthorse3675]

Still think they shouldn’t and you’ll be reminded why on November 5th.

[@treeamigo8447]

​@@gifthorse3675 believe me, I understand. As great as this woman is, she is an anomaly.

[@censoredeveryday3320]

You still have it right. They shouldn't... too much emotion involved.

[@mozitzu6326]

Exceptions do not make the rules.

[@johnnyjohn-johnson7738]

@@censoredeveryday3320 The biggest red pill for me was realizing that a huge chunk of men are no better than the average woman, what made me realize it was hearing from David Goggins about the bitchiness that goes on in the Navy SEALs community, how they gossip and spread rumors about each other.

[@13BGunBunny]

I love her in-depth analysis of what happened during the time. More Dr. Malcolm please.

[@blackwind743]

When everyone has a gun very few ever have need or motivation to use them.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

you know too much

[@kenofken9458]

If that was true, we should have the lowest crime rates on the planet. Lower even than places like Iceland. Instead we have some of the highest rates in the world and the largest prison system that has ever existed in all of human history.

[@thesugardaddy7037]

​@@kenofken9458 Your getting the wrong idea. America doesn't have a gun problem, America has a crime problem. If you have terrible soft on crime polices, a neutered police force, and an attitude that crime and trashy ghetto culture is cool your going to have a lot of crime. Guns have very little to do with it. All you have to do is look at the INSANELY strict gun laws in some of the most crime ridden places in the the country to know that this doesn't work. Chicago has horrible gun violence despite it having some of the strictest gun laws in the entire country. Wanna know why? Because CRIMINALS DON'T CARE ABOUT THE LAWS!!!!!! Criminals will(and more often than not do) just buy guns illegally. This does nothing but take guns away from law abiding citizens who were using or would have used their firearms responsibly. Ending violent crime isn't a matter of banning guns, its a matter of better policies from politicians, a police force that is actually allowed to enforce the law, and changing this toxic and destructive culture that crime and trashy ghetto behavior is cool.

[@kenofken9458]

@@thesugardaddy7037 It has both a gun and crime problem. Chicago doesn't have the strict bans everyone thinks it does. It used to, but not since Heller and MacDonald Supreme Court rulings 15 years ago or whatever it's been. It's not hard to get a concealed carry permit in Chicago or anywhere else in the state. Hundreds of thousands of people have them. No, criminals don't respect gun laws any more than any other law. But one law they can't blow off is the law of supply and demand. The black market in guns, for all the talk about 3D printers is, to all purposes a function of the legal market. In virtually every instance, the black market is supplied by diversion from the legal market. Theft, straw purchase, corrupt licensed and unlicensed dealers, sometimes operating under the pretense of having guns stolen. As a result of the enormous legal supply (the largest on the planet, but a gigantic margin), and next to no controls, the supply of black market guns is vast, and therefore cheap. A criminal, or even a 14 year old wannabe gang member, can get a Glock or something similar for a couple hundred bucks. Even less for a Hi-Point or something bottom rung. That's not the case in the UK. There are no legally possessed handguns to speak of. So there's none to steal. Long guns are not easily stolen because of secure storage rules. There is also a very strong dis-incentive to pretend your gun was stolen and sell it on to a crook because it's registered to you. Even if they can't prosecute you, they'll lift your firearm or shotgun license for life for "losing" your weapons under suspicious circumstances. Can criminals still get some guns? Yep, but they're scarce, and very, very expensive. What cost a kid here a couple hundred on the street will cost a couple thousand and more over there. I agree 100% that soft on crime policies are a major driver in homicides and other violent crimes. For several years now, Chicago has basically had a no-prosecution policy of most crimes. Even very violent criminals are released with no bond completely on the honor system. Most of us who trend liberal and supported sensible criminal justice reforms see that as crazy.

[@blackwind743]

@@kenofken9458 This is a direct result of the fact that gun control is a political weapon in U.S.. It's hard to pin down when it exactly happened but sometime after the Great Depression, the elites used social engineering to push the poor rural folk into the Republican party and made sure to associate the values they believed in strongly with that party while making sure to make denouncing socialism a core part of this party. This is because the Depression made them fear Bolshevism. At the same time Democrat elites work with the Republican elites to try and get rid of the guns so that this won't even be an option. Over time a politician's individual ideologies may not match up exactly with this but the net effect is the same. This has created a country that doesn't have the same kind of social safety nets as Europe/Scandanavia and is thus more violent due to poverty and the erosian of trust in a government that only services elites. The problem with this whole system is that politicians are trying to force cultural change on a topic that is a part of the core makeup of Americans and that is almost impossible. Democrats just need to accept it and they'll get much of their agenda through while also reducing crime. Switzerland gives assault rifles to it's citizens and they have little gun crime and Karl Marx actually supported gun ownership btw.

[@0ldb1ll]

In Britain use of pepper spray (which has a temporary effect), is illegal. Use of de-odorant or hairspray for self-defence (which has a permanent effect) is not. Always carry 2 knitting needles. For the car always carry a ball to go with your baseball bat. The suggestion that society will protect you is a lie and the police will want to get as many prosecutions as they can; you are not 'innocent until proven guilty'.

[@mikefish8226]

Actually, your understanding of the law is lacking. Carrying knitting needles to defend yourself is illegal. You'd have to convince the CPS and possibly a judge that you were actually going to knit AND weren't planning to use them for self-defence. Same with the other things you mentioned.

[@Nov1706]

@@mikefish8226 You don't have to prove anything. They have to prove that your intention was to use them as a weapon. That's how the law is supposed to work.

[@mikefish8226]

@Nov1706 Please stop giving bad advice. Go carry a bat around on the high street in front of the police, and see what happens.

[@dwork9451]

It is a God given right, end of story.

[@WW_SHTFF_WW]

England? You can't even carry pepper spray.

[@gifthorse3675]

Is that why their food is so bland?

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

Yep, excellent.

[@Saaahdood]

Australia? They expect you to take it even if it kills you or you go to prison

[@olheghtt]

When people don't have the courage to fight for their rights, their rights will be forfeited.

[@richestes1]

I wish I could “like” this multiple times! Dr. Malcolm is a national treasure. God bless her! Thank you for the interview, again, Tom.

[@anthonydavinci7985]

Excellent guest and a wealth of information.. Dr. Malcolm's historical knowledge shows gun crime is not due to the amount of Guns, but is a result of break downs in a society.

[@solarwinds-]

I gotta ask, why focus on "gun violence"? Why not focus on violence PERIOD?

[@ChadBoss-qr4hl]

@@solarwinds- I think because he was citing Dr. Malcolm, whose expertise is gun violence. But to your point, I think you can extrapolate from the OP/Dr. Malcolm and apply it to violence period. Look at what's currently happening in the UK... No real gun violence to speak of (compared to the US) but plenty of stabbings. And they still apparently haven't learned a thing because now they think taking away knives is the solution! Next it will be cricket bats.

[@DRob-gq3ki]

@solarwinds- because they want to slowly turn us into north korea.

[@randykalish7558]

@anthony... ...which are a result of leadership which is a result of breakdowns in society which are a result of lea...

[@davidfurr6004]

Read her book several years ago. Excellent read, points out that every time the English passed another weapons ban violent crime increased.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

And the result is a lower murder rate and nonexistent gum crime.

[@flanker3061]

@@StudentDad-mc3pu Not true. There was barely any “gun crime” before all the bans to begin with. Come and take it! Long live Second Amendment!

[@markrutkowski267]

​@StudentDad-mc3pu Lower murder rates from guns doesn't mean lower murder rates overall. Stabbings became more prevalent, actually increasing overall murder rates. Everything people with power and/or influence tell you needs to questioned. Restrictions to firearms only prevents law abiding people from defending themselves from attacks. Criminals are cowardly predators. They will choose someone that they feel they will not be able to adequately fight back. Women are a common target, since many men (excluding soyboys😂) would be able to overpower them physically. When a woman pulls out a firearm (which is a force multiplier) the power dynamic shifts dramatically and the woman is no longer a potential target into a viable threat to those who threaten. Shots rarely need to ever be fired. The problem is that the statistics out there dealing with gun defense (being compiled by anti-gunners) NEVER add those numbers where no shots were fired. That would prove their rhetoric incorrect. So, they manipulate the numbers to suit their desires. Plus, involving gang violence by young adults as "child death" is completely disingenuous. That would only show a cultural issue, and not a gun issue, showing the people the real problems our society faces.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@@markrutkowski267 Your post is based on multiple fallacious pieces of misinformation you have not bothered to check. The UK's murder rate is less than half of the overall rate in Europe, and about one-sixth of the rate in the US. Guns make murder (and suicide) easy. It's harder to kill with a knife. At the moment the UK is acting to severely restrict the sale and possession of knives as well. As I say, the Murder rate in the US is six times higher than the UK, 3600 children have been killed by a gun in the US up to this point this year. You have NO ARGUMENT that is supported by the evidence.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@@flanker3061 That's just rubbish.

[@Adelina-293]

Based on current events in the UK we know how this ends. America doesn't need to repeat that mistake.

[@mydogharlee]

I’m a woman and regardless if I ever get a criminal background, I will always get a firearm to defend myself because my predictors are usually much stronger and faster than I am and I want a chance at survival against attack. Besides I lost all my guns on a poker bet.

[@Marconius-SPQR]

My were lost in a boating accident !😅

[@anthonywalker2306]

When she said the people did not want the police to be armed because they thought they would be too oppressive, in my opinion, those people were right considering our police force today...

[@MarilynMonroeFamily]

Exactly!!

[@firefly9838]

They were absolutely right. I was briefly a police officer for the reason to actually help people... oh man... the majority of people I worked with had... interesting... moral philosophies... some downright sadistic...

[@MrDLRu]

It's human nature time and time again, and they knew that. The US Constitution was designed to place a check on typical human nature which NEVER changes. Just look at what's happening with all the govt abuses, from 1A, 2A and 4A rights.

[@romyhezser7630]

​@@firefly9838well that only means that those sadistic police officers shouldn't have been employed at all, there should be certain standards when employ someone in a position of power and authority.... like specifically designed psychological trials. However this isn't a reason to disarm police officers in a criminal environment as being armed and properly trained is the only chance one can have against dangerous criminals, it is unreasonable to strip anyone off that chance.... the ability to effectively defend themselves from an attack!!! It's a proven fact that legally armed citizens in society is beneficial as it significantly reduces the violent crime rate.

[@roddecker1900]

Us constitution makes no space for police. When police were created they weren't to have RIGHTS OVER YOU[ AUTHORITY] now they are oppressive.i have three in my family and as many in wife's family. There is a sneaky push to federalize all the police in America.would be very bad idea.

[@pauljuedeman852]

When we would pass our duty station over to a British ship in Vietnam. We would tie up to the other ship and go aboard the other ship and hang out with the crew for an hour or so. One thing that always came up was that the British crew was very inquisitive about my sheath knife and wanted to see it. All of their knives were blunted on the end because they weren't allowed to carry any such as a combat knife! Which I really thought was strange.

[@surlyogre1476]

Thanks for having Dr. Malcolm on; very insightful discussion.👍

[@BenWilson-cp6ld]

I'm a very grateful fan of Dr Malcolm. Thanks for getting her back on here.

[@joeymalcolm677]

very smart Lady thank you Dr.Malcolm

[@stuartrollings602]

Thanks to Joyce for her work and influence!

[@barbarabrooks4747]

In the UK, your right to protect yourself without an arm is greatly restricted as well, yet the authorities these days do a terrible job of protecting the public and a poor job of confiscating weapons from felons and gang members.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

Just waffle and nonsense

[@russellprice8971]

Thank you Dr. Malcolm and Councillor Grieve. Excellent presentation!!!

[@ChiefCabioch]

I dont think those who propose to disarm those with arms would comply, and if force was applied there would be an equal and opposite force, the US Constitution is the law of the land, and those who think they can simply declare the end of an Amendment and that be be enough have no idea the pushback from such and Egregious act of Tyranny...

[@QuixoticNinja]

Im a big fan of this type of content and Dr. Malcolm's commentary. Bravo! Thanks!

[@Michael-iw3ek]

What a cool idea to bring an expert historian! And what a novel idea to punish criminals for using firearms, not regular citizens.

[@alancranford3398]

After total disarmament, how long before legal representation when charged with a crime is a "privilege" and pleading "innocent" will bring an additional charge of TREASON?

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

Well, that right still exists in the UK after a century of gun restrictions.

[@alancranford3398]

@@StudentDad-mc3pu Russia and China and Japan never recognized that right to legal representation. Quite a few American politicians envy that state of affairs.

[@DRob-gq3ki]

@StudentDad-mc3pu no it doesn't the UK has no 5th amendment right you are forced to testify against yourself. Its a very dystopian place.

[@alancranford3398]

@@DRob-gq3ki Did it take a government formed by traitors to include a prohibition against compelling a defendant in a criminal trial from testifying against himself? "Compelling" testimony against yourself at the time meant torture and mutilation--and if you expired, you merely died unrepentant. Guilty until proven innocent! The "presumed innocence" dogma means that the burden of proof is on the State and the prosecution. It is coincidence that "Nineteen Eighty-four" was an English novel.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@@DRob-gq3ki Untrue, the UK has the same protection in law as the US in terms of the right to silence. This has been enshrined in Common Law since the 1600s and more recently in Article 6 of the ECHU.

[@kyliejohn3813]

Dr Malcolm is awesome. A wonderful guest.

[@Detritus0311]

"2nd Amendment: A Primer" One of my favoriate accesible books on this topic which was recommended to me in the comment section of a 2A video. It is a great resource for people who are on the other side as it is not condescending at all but is very pro 2A. Such a great reccomendation.

[@Worriedman50]

St. George Tucker made clear in the notes to the description of the arms right, Americans understood the “right of self-preservation” as permitting a citizen to “repe[l] force by force” when “the intervention of society in his behalf, may be too late to prevent an injury.”

[@millardmoore479]

Thank you patriots ❤❤❤

[@harryburge9803]

I will not comply with any laws,bans, edicts that are repugnant to the Constitution!!!

[@deanmccormick8070]

It's a red-letter day whenever Prof. M. appears!

[@scottbenton5880]

The sheer quality and quantity of information I learn from these discussions with Dr Malcolm is amazing. To both of you...thank you so much!!!

[@tedk2814]

This was so cool having Mrs Malcolm on your show today. Due to a previous show of yours, I became aware of her book so I purchased it and I'm so glad I did. It is so informative and Ive read it over and over. Last week I visited my orthopedic physician to get my old knees injected and I showed him her book that I brought to read in the waiting room. He was interested so I purchased on for him as well for $30 from Amazon. Please give Mts Malcolm my appreciation and I hope to see you again on Tom Grieve's channel. Thank you Tom, Ted in Sebastian,Fl.

[@user-tm4vz5hn2u]

We all have a right to bear arms and defend ourselves

[@Harleyever]

Outstanding ! ….. thanks Tom & Prof. M

[@dragonf1092]

We have Congress not parliament,fk England/Britain and the rest of the world irrelevant to the second amendment.

[@johnh.tuomala4379]

In my day, there wasn’t a Democrat I ever met, who didn’t constantly state: “But in England, they do/don’t do it that way!”

[@George-kv6gm]

Listening to Dr. Malcolm is like sitting in on the best historical discussion of rights regarding self-defense in the world. She is amazing, and so interesting! Thanks for having her on...looking forward to the next time! God bless you both!

[@Rodney-y1d]

Could we invite her to speak before congress?

[@gabe17778]

Joyce needs to be heard far and wide

[@Worriedman50]

Incrementalism and the bureaucratic state, that is the nail that is driven into our coffins.

[@egn_andrew]

I always love and appreciate bringing on Joyce. It's very important to learn the history of our rights.

[@user-xs1fm3bo8t]

The royalty is playing the long game to take back the colony.

[@kenofken9458]

I don't think we could pay them to take us back.

[@EM-tx3ly]

@@kenofken9458 Nor the stomach to bear my cousins across the pond !!!

[@jamesbell7220]

Dr. Malcolm, a million thanks for your illuminations on Tom's channel. TY!!!

[@phil20_20]

This isn't England, thankfully. We had a revolution for a reason. English Common Law has no place here. Nor does a King.

[@johndesrochers-si4cl]

Great interview. Thanks Tom !

[@ChaohsiangChen]

Based grandmom.

[@jamesfloyd6803]

Excellent lecture on English gun laws.

[@pauljuedeman852]

Now I am truly looking forward to viewing the second part! I could never have imagined as to how they came about with the laws that England has today. Very interesting!

[@NickFrom1228]

One of my Brit friends described this issue precisely. He was so pissed with the UK laws etc he left the UK, moved to the US and promptly learned everything he could about firearms and became a strong supporter of 2A.

[@Dstev98141]

Obviously, it becomes an issue of enforcement of criminal statue, without enforcement criminality runs wild! Thanks for visiting Dr. Joyce!

[@Detritus0311]

modern policing is a fairly new ideal though. We use to haul of each other to a judge before we outsourced this to the police. Not saying we should go back to that but it is interesting police hasn't always been a thing.

[@Changemymind1]

​@@Detritus0311That was still policing lol. Only more dangerous. Mob rule is no better.

[@Detritus0311]

@@Changemymind1 no it wasn't. If the judge and jury were in on it was mob rule.

[@slopsec2358]

Awesome content. Thank you much!

[@katyushamarikov8819]

William Tell reminds us that the highest man may fall to the man who wields a bow.

[@EM-tx3ly]

Might is Right

[@XDWX]

Rights are not guaranteed. They are only what we are willing to fight for.

[@pauljuedeman852]

I thought her explanation of the English gun history was excellent! There was a lot of information there that I was totally unaware of.

[@camron1501]

Thank you.

[@pauljuedeman852]

In my tours around the world, courtesy of Uncle Sam. The British people that I came across struck me a little differently than Americans. The way that they did things was just the way it was automatically. I don't think they even considered whether it was legal or not. They did things a certain way because that was the way it was done! They didn't seem to ever question the government, not so much like I was.

[@johnh.tuomala4379]

That’s called the concept of “Cricket”, or in this country; “Playing by the rules”. It means that you don’t do what’s necessary or advantageous, you do what’s “Right”, according to the rules(often unwritten).

[@bobbyivey3337]

love the interview! brings a whole new meaning to "foot in the door "

[@stevepace83]

Ahh England, the land of the haves and haves not. Lucky for them that the USA was willing to sacrifice lives and money that we did not as a nation even adequately possess to kept them from learning German TWICE.

[@johnh.tuomala4379]

They still think that they own us. Don’t believe it, ask them!

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

Disparity of wealth is far far greater in the US than the UK. There are many millions more have nots in US cities.

[@Faceplay2]

Not true at all.

[@EM-tx3ly]

😂😂😂 Where were the founding fathers from ? What language that you guys use come from ? Who founded the USA ? English or British Settlers and the writers of the constitution were from mostly England or in Isles Without 🇬🇧 No 🇺🇸

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@@EM-tx3ly And France and Holland and Germany. But mainly the UK, yes.

[@Timboykee]

Always more Dr. Malcolm! Thank you, Tom!

[@lewishodge4935]

The right of self defense is enshrined in natural law. NO person has the obligation to give up that right. According to the Democide Project, conducted at the University of Hawaii, somewhere around 16 incidents of the people being disarmed around the world, in the last century, were cited. In EVERTY case GENOCIDE was committed by their own governments against the now disarmed!

[@laurajaneluvsbeauty9596]

We will never give up our weapons.

[@Snuffy03]

Didn't we fight a war with the British over this same thing? If my education is correct, it was British attempts at gun confiscation that got the farmers of Lexington and Concord out on a chilly April morning to tell the Brits to "piss off"? An act which cost the Brits 73 KIA, 124 wounded, and 26 missing? Just WHY would we want to emulate those we fought?

[@johnnyhall7065]

The settlers were descended mainly from the English, we were fighting our own, many English had sympathies with the colonisers. Here now we are subject to UK State funded violence, with no recourse.

[@Snuffy03]

@@johnnyhall7065 Right. I am a historian. Mainly military history. It seems that the Rule of English Common Law that was fought for by the English people during the reign of King John has all but disappeared. My ancestors were Scots and Irish. With a few Welsh thrown in the mix. Groups that were never fully accepted by the hierarchy. And now, it seems the English Parliament and the royals have the same disdain for their own. Probably out of fear of the regular citizens. The US isn't much different these days. But we aren't quite downtrodden.

[@johnnyhall7065]

@@Snuffy03 Englands seems to be worse off in many ways, however , also our ancestry, is now opening up to include earlier large incursions by the Sumerians around 1500 BC and the Trojans about 500 BC. Genetically, not sure how separated we are these days, except to say NW and SE of the island show differentials in input! As for our status, we are still subjects!

[@Snuffy03]

@@johnnyhall7065 👍

[@mikedavis9130]

As a child I was a member of a rifle club in the uk and was taught how to handle a firearm correctly. The massacre at Hungerford sparked a massive media outcry which enabled the government of the time to ban handguns and semiautomatic rifles largely with the blessing of the British public.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

Yes, thank goodness - and no one wants to go back. I was also a member of a gun club and I used to practice with single shot pistols. People used to bring in their glocks and their magnums to make up for their small penises. These are all banned now, thank goodness.

[@Fortnite_Frost_Clips]

I would like you to go into and analyze what Kamala Harris can actually do to infringe on the 2nd amendment without it being considered presidential overreach.

[@johnh.tuomala4379]

She seems to think that she can “pack” the Supreme Court, and do whatever she wants by Executive Order to “bring the Revolution”.

[@AndrewSanders-d1p]

If you don't have the right to defend yourself then all rights, you think you have are not worth the fricken paper they are written on. If you don't even have the right to defend yourself, you won't even be around to defend your other rights.

[@randyogburn2498]

When I look across the sea to England I see the bottom of the slippery slope. From you don't need a 30 round magazine to 20 rounds to 10 to 1 to none. To you can't have a pocket knife or pepper spray or anything else for self defense while the criminals will attack you with a kitchen knife or screwdriver or anything else pointy & stabby they can find.

[@Lonestar214]

Dr. Malcolm, I really enjoy and appreciate your visits with us!

[@jeffdonaldson6538]

I like the citizens being armed but the police were not 😂

[@atatterson6992]

What an intelligent, articulate woman. Would be great if America were filled with these such valuable gems. Thanks for the introduction Tom! Subscribed

[@tracymartin4517]

I love that Seneca quote.

[@Nick-zp3ub]

Could you imagine what would happen if they tried to ban guns in America? Gun owners would riot, the police would be under siege, and militias would detonate bombs outside government buildings. It would make afghanistan look tame

[@samadams6487]

We're going to have a civil war time before any attempt at that. It's coming I know a lawyer who used to practice here in Florida but he's moved and he was here this past weekend at my radio breakfast it's a ham radio thing and when I mentioned in my thought we would be in our civil war within about 10 years maybe 6 to 10 years he just looked at me and said no it's going to be 3 to 6 months. I don't think it's going to be that soon but I would tell you honestly that if it does go that way I will be fucking cheering but we're not quite ready for it but we could get probably 30 million but I would prefer to have those 30 million in militia units under County government Authority but yeah civil war is coming but that's my goal my goal is actually to get County governments to Charter a militia and fund it with an increase in the sales tax and property tax millage rate and being some political divisions they can stock up their Armory with pretty much everything we might need

[@InsightThoughtSystems]

What a great guest and episode. Thank you both very much!

[@michellecullen8530]

You just cant rely on the police to get to you on time. We should all have the right to carry a fire arm. Not only for self defence but also so we dont get over run by a tyrannical govt. And also so we can defend our country if another country decides to invade. As it stands if china decides to invade Australia we are all screwed. Especially in today's climate our govt is so soft i believe they would basically just give them our country. 😢

[@mrkoolio4475]

I admire this woman so much. If I had a bed, I bet she doesn’t even have a gun I bet she doesn’t even like them but there she is doing the diligent work of researching these issues and telling us the truth about what she found that is impressive in today’s world sad as that is

[@kalacaptain4818]

last place on earth with english liberty isn't england truly, pottery

[@bpc23]

Thank you, Dr. Malcolm! I appreciate your willingness to educate us.

[@journeyman378]

The police always go right along though.

[@davidr1676]

Then they can go into a hole

[@MoviesFirearmsandGear]

Professor Malcolm is awesome!